How the f*ck did Lumpsford end up winning that thing ??

[illuminati]

Of course they do haha

So you actually believe that all the winners and placings over the years all got the right placings? 

2007 Olympia comes to mind, also 2002, so many others to mention as well

Of course you are a judge , explains everything 

Just how thick & stupid are you

No I do not always agree with the judges final results.
I Couldn't care any less if you believe I'm a NABBA judge. Why on earth would I lie,
What to try & impress other anonymous posters on a bodybuilding forum 
FFS Get a life.

You carry on & believe what you want.

[chaos]

Mr Oilympia was so outstanding that The Almighty Ron himself has been stunned into silence.

[illuminati]

Mr Oilympia was so outstanding that The Almighty Ron himself has been stunned into silence.

It promised a prospect of a great Mr Olympia with 4 Olympia winners competing
Yet sadly it was a very poor Mr Olympia the quality of the competitors left much
To be desired & the amount of oil in them all was enough to fill an oil tanker.

[Royalty]

It promised a prospect of a great Mr Olympia with 4 Olympia winners competing
Yet sadly it was a very poor Mr Olympia the quality of the competitors left much
To be desired & the amount of oil in them all was enough to fill an oil tanker.

I do not follow the IFBB shows, so I don’t know this...

I just found out that Derek tore his pecs 4 weeks prior to the 2025 Olympia.

[AbrahamG]

Andre jacked should of won

He looks better than that sack of shit lumpsford

LMFAO!

[FitnessFrenzy]

I don't think we can underestimate the politics. A good white christian family man... (Lunsford)

[Gargamel]

I remember when Jay Cutler placed ahead of Big Ramy at his last Olympia. This was probably the most egregious misjudging I have ever seen. The judging is just BS. Why do ppl act surprised every year?

[Methyl m1ke]

I get the sentiment, but this one seems egregious.

What is the argument for Lunsford here?

Just that he must have looked better live?

[Van_Bilderass]

Despite all the politics and subjectivity I actually find it amazing how "correctly" they seem to judge if you go by fan feedback. Of course there are many complaints but it could be much worse if it was "all politics." Many did think Lunsford as winner was at least acceptable even if they'd rather see nr 2 or 3 as winner. Surely if politics was real bad Hadi wouldn't be so close to winning in the US.

I think Lunsford's lack of arm separation and cuts is mostly genetic. Few look as hard as Hadi, again genetic, because they all do the same things pretty much.

[Royalty]

I remember when Jay Cutler placed ahead of Big Ramy at his last Olympia. This was probably the most egregious misjudging I have ever seen. The judging is just BS. Why do ppl act surprised every year?

You were an INCEL back then.

And you are an INCEL now.

[NaturalWonder83]

Despite all the politics and subjectivity I actually find it amazing how "correctly" they seem to judge if you go by fan feedback. Of course there are many complaints but it could be much worse if it was "all politics." Many did think Lunsford as winner was at least acceptable even if they'd rather see nr 2 or 3 as winner. Surely if politics was real bad Hadi wouldn't be so close to winning in the US.

I think Lunsford's lack of arm separation and cuts is mostly genetic. Few look as hard as Hadi, again genetic, because they all do the same things pretty much.

Didn't a bodybuilder years back once say "Good thing the fans aren't judging," or something to that effect?

Can't recall who said that.

[Pet shop boys]

There's always those that will Cry over the results.

The Judges have the best live view & they placed him 1st
is that simple.

Become a Judge & work your way up to Olympia level judging
& see how many will disagree wit your choices.

Stop your Crying FFS.

Hi Aceto
sounding like a true technician there

Hadi was robbed (AGAIN)


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[wes]

Victor Terra should have won !! 

[Van_Bilderass]

Didn't a bodybuilder years back once say "Good thing the fans aren't judging," or something to that effect?

Can't recall who said that.

I don't know but if the fans decided the mohammedans would be winning all shows, absolutely rabid fans. "Americans" or "whites" are more objective, might even give a win to an Iranian

[MajorDomo]

Another one who misses the point it is a who's the Tallest competition.

Carry on. 

My bad, lol

[Lartinos]

I remember when Jay Cutler placed ahead of Big Ramy at his last Olympia. This was probably the most egregious misjudging I have ever seen. The judging is just BS. Why do ppl act surprised every year?

You are comparing Jay to Derek, lol.

[Malanore]

The clean-shaven white guy is more marketable.

You mean the clean-shaven white (US-)American? I really start believing there is something behind it.

[Darren Avey]

He won this battle but is he ready for the next?
Bodybuilding is brutal war

[illuminati]

You mean the clean-shaven white (US-)American? I really start believing there is something behind it.

Really - Then explain Lee Haney 8 x winner
Ronnie Coleman 8 x Winner
Phil Heath 7 x winner

They're were plenty of alternative White Men to 'Give' The title to

So explain 23yrs of Black men winning if its all down to marketing

[joswift]

Really - Then explain Lee Haney 8 x winner
Ronnie Coleman 8 x Winner
Phil Heath 7 x winner

They're were plenty of alternative White Men to 'Give' The title to

So explain 23yrs of Black men winning if its all down to marketing

Black market?   

[illuminati]

Hi Aceto
sounding like a true technician there

Hadi was robbed (AGAIN)


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You read my reply you know what to do
Get on with becoming a Judge - I'll wait

Then your opinion would carry some weight.

[ProudVirgin69]

Really - Then explain Lee Haney 8 x winner
Ronnie Coleman 8 x Winner
Phil Heath 7 x winner

They're were plenty of alternative White Men to 'Give' The title to

So explain 23yrs of Black men winning if its all down to marketing

Black doesn’t mean unmarketable.  Hell, Coleman is one of the most marketable bodybuilders ever.

Ramy, on the other hand, was an Arab bodybuilder who didnt speak English well and hardly spent any time in the US.  It’s kinda hard to market a foreigner who doesn’t speak the language.  Or Kai Greene.  It would have been a disaster for the IFBB if their top bodybuilder was some stripper who fucked a grapefruit on camera. 

[Methyl m1ke]

All comparisons in 4k, you be the judge

Lundsford had more size but Hadi was far sharper. The olympia judges made a tough call. Andrew jacked has holes in his physique that hold him back and samson was totally underwhelming. Walker look ed terrible.

[Lartinos]

Black doesn’t mean unmarketable.  Hell, Coleman is one of the most marketable bodybuilders ever.

Ramy, on the other hand, was an Arab bodybuilder who didnt speak English well and hardly spent any time in the US.  It’s kinda hard to market a foreigner who doesn’t speak the language.  Or Kai Greene.  It would have been a disaster for the IFBB if their top bodybuilder was some stripper who fucked a grapefruit on camera.

Black people convert a bit lower for my advertising actually.

You need someone truly outstanding to get past that from my experience and at times I’ve found some people like that.

I work within part of this specific niche.

White and Hispanic work better and Asians less than that, but they convert better than blacks.

Usually this fact is in indicated in how much the influencers are asking.

[illuminati]

Black doesn’t mean unmarketable.  Hell, Coleman is one of the most marketable bodybuilders ever.

Ramy, on the other hand, was an Arab bodybuilder who didnt speak English well and hardly spent any time in the US.  It’s kinda hard to market a foreigner who doesn’t speak the language.  Or Kai Greene.  It would have been a disaster for the IFBB if their top bodybuilder was some stripper who fucked a grapefruit on camera.

I was asking Malanore as he stated it was a marketing issue.

Clearly not as those multi olympia winner show.