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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #50 on: Today at 10:28:51 AM »
Are they starving today?

Western obesity skyrocketed when we started adding fat sugar, carbs, and highly processed foods into everything.

It's 2026 and the western public are still told confusing messages around our diet.



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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #51 on: Today at 12:15:03 PM »
A calorie is a calorie.

Not necessarily.  It's just as much, if not more, about hormones too.

Insulin hormone:
If type 1 diabetics don't inject their insulin, they could eat 10,000 calories of whatever they want, even refined sugar, in a day and not gain one ounce of body fat and actually burn fat instead.  Not that this is healthy or recommended, but it's what happens.

Why?  Because the Insulin hormone isn't there to tell the body how to deal with all that blood glucose, how to burn it, how to store it, etc.  So the body is deprived of energy and switches to making and burning ketones by breaking down fat stores instead.  This of course can lead to diabetic ketoacidosis which life-threatening.  But you get the point.

Cortisol hormone:
You can eat zero carbs and still have very high blood glucose levels if your cortisol levels are high.  Cortisol promotes gluconeogenesis.  This can lead to insulin resistance and excess body fat storage, even on a zero carb diet.  Your cortisol levels can be naturally higher in the morning.  Skipping breakfast and drinking coffee on an empty stomach will send cortisol levels even higher.  Eating only one large meal a day in the late afternoon or evening can raise your cortisol levels too, but not so much if eating your one meal in the morning.

FGF21 Hormone
This hormone promotes body fat burning and it's primarily released by low-protein feeding.  Levels of this hormone seem to go up the most after low-protein meals and not so much during fasting.  It doesn't matter if you eat only carbs or only fat, although it seems to go up more if you eat only sweet, refined carbs, probably as a way to signal that you're eating too many of these carbs.

Some in the medical/scientific community are saying that this is how/why The Sugar Diet fad works in helping some healthy, relatively lean males get leaner.  It doesn't seem to work that well for females or obese individuals.

FGF21 doesn't go up as much while water fasting even though you're eating zero protein.  It's the low protein feedings that elevate levels of this hormone the most.

High circulating levels of this hormone makes you crave protein while reducing sweets and alcohol cravings.  The increase in body fat burning is probably to spare muscle mass and other tissues when eating only low-protein meals.

In this study, participants switching from their normal diet to a low-protein diet saw their FGF21 hormone levels increase and had to consume 800 more calories to avoid losing body weight, from fat.  After going back to their normal protein intake, they had to eat 800 less calories to avoid gaining weight, from fat.

They didn't lose lean body mass while eating low protein for 5 weeks in this study, although going longer with this low protein intake might have eventually caught up to them.

Dietary protein restriction elevates FGF21 levels and energy requirements to maintain body weight in lean men

Published: 06 March 2025

0.83 g protein (9% protein) per kg body weight per day for 5 weeks

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-025-01236-7

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #52 on: Today at 01:24:21 PM »
Interesting stuff, loco.

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« Reply #53 on: Today at 02:04:16 PM »
Interesting stuff, loco.

Glad you found it interesting!

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #54 on: Today at 02:21:47 PM »


That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #55 on: Today at 02:34:50 PM »
That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.

Trans fats... they removed animal fats and replaced with seed oils because they said it was healthier
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In the 1980s the concept that saturated fats specifically were a major driver for heart disease grew in popularity and became fashionable. Consumer groups campaigned against saturated fats for frying in fast-food restaurants and the food industry exploited this marketing angle. The replacement of Saturated Fats by unsaturated fat Margarine was also supported by international medical society guidelines and charities based on the available evidence of the time. In response fast-food companies switched to partially hydrogenated oils containing Trans Fats instead of animal fats (such as lard) and other saturated fat oils. An additional appeal for the fast food industry was that Trans Fat oils do not need to be changed as often as other oils and can be used many time over in the commercial fryers (oils which are reheated repeatedly to high temperatures also develop other adverse toxic elements).

10 years later in the early 1990s new medical research starts to reveal that Trans Fats are seriously bad for health. Although small amounts of Trans fats can be found naturally it is industrially produced Trans fats which are linked to an increased risk of multiple diseases including cardiovascular disease and Cancers. There is nothing nutritionally positive about Trans fat —a pure evil ‘food’ (if you can even call it a food). Eating Trans fats increases LDL (bad cholesterol) and Triglycerides but also amazingly lowers HDL (good cholesterol) and promotes inflammation creating a perfect athrogenic [causing artery furring] environment. Trans fats increase your risk of developing heart disease, stroke, type 2 Diabetes and have been linked with several types of Cancer. Consumption of only 5 g per day is associated with a 23% increase in the risk of coronary heart disease!


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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #56 on: Today at 02:38:16 PM »
okay so they fell for the myth that grains are bad?

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« Reply #57 on: Today at 02:50:21 PM »
I’ve been eating the new food pyramid for my entire adult life. Is that why I’m not a fat slob or dead yet? I also didn’t take the jab because i am not a submissive faggot which I believe also helps in staying undeaded

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #58 on: Today at 02:56:30 PM »
That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.

You can get fat eating any kind of food if the calories you eat exceed what you burn.

However, a high carb diet triggers excessive  insulin secretion which makes the body store excess glucose as fat,  a survival mechanism for future times of insufficient food.  This also strains the pancreas.
Over decades the pancreas can wear out resulting in Type 2 diabetes.

You can be thin and be a Type 2 diabetic.

When you are already getting sufficient calories, adding excess calories from fat just gets stored.

The Western Diet is approximately 300-400 grams of carbs per day.  Add to this the excess calories from fast food, sugary drinks, etc. and you get fat people.

Foods such as seed oils, trans fats, sugars cause inflammation which is now considered the actual cause of heart disease.

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #59 on: Today at 03:00:05 PM »
I’ve been eating the new food pyramid for my entire adult life. Is that why I’m not a fat slob or dead yet? I also didn’t take the jab because i am not a submissive faggot which I believe also helps in staying undeaded

You got it, Bone.

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #60 on: Today at 03:01:05 PM »
okay so they fell for the myth that grains are bad?

Grains are like eating sugar basically.
Cheap way to feed your people though.

1 slice white bread = 13 gm carbs

1 tbls white sugar = 13 gm carbs

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« Reply #61 on: Today at 03:11:14 PM »
You got it, Bone.

Your approval puts my mind at ease, natty!

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #62 on: Today at 03:12:26 PM »
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #63 on: Today at 03:13:43 PM »
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.

Except if you like to eat horse meat, then people get to act like you are scum while they pound down beef

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #64 on: Today at 03:16:41 PM »
Except if you like to eat horse meat, then people get to act like you are scum while they pound down beef


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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #65 on: Today at 03:21:57 PM »
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.

Even a kielbasa?

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Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
« Reply #66 on: Today at 03:25:44 PM »
Even a kielbasa?

Bhanky can eat all the kielbasa he wants.