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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2026, 07:51:52 AM »
Why would you go in expecting a movie the quality of Gladiator? There will probably never be a movie in this genre as epic as Gladiator, no point even trying to compare anything to it.

It's a tough genre to do, especially a 3 hour movie with the source material. Nolans style kept things interesting enough, decent action and it looked great. The ending did something different too

His castings hasn't been great for several movies now. It is what it is, for the genre it was solid and about on par with Troy

Because it's one of the most epic directors covering an one of the most famous and epic tales ever told?  I could flip that on you - how could you NOT?

Decent action, looked great, dialogue and acting were pedestrian.

I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2026, 08:26:29 AM »
Because it's one of the most epic directors covering an one of the most famous and epic tales ever told?  I could flip that on you - how could you NOT?

Decent action, looked great, dialogue and acting were pedestrian.

I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.

Has any well known epic ancient Greek literature as source material ever resulted in an epic movie? Gladiator doesn't count as the source material wasn't well known and it was modern writing.

Movies based on ancient Greek literature are nearly always trash. Only a handful you could call solid, and this is one of them.

This was about on the same level as Nolans most recent movies. None of those were epic either.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2026, 10:38:21 AM »
Has any well known epic ancient Greek literature as source material ever resulted in an epic movie? Gladiator doesn't count as the source material wasn't well known and it was modern writing.

Movies based on ancient Greek literature are nearly always trash. Only a handful you could call solid, and this is one of them.


Do you think he went into this thinking he was just going to make a "solid" movie?

He can pick any project he wants - there's no reason to think he went in looking to not make something great.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2026, 11:38:03 AM »
Sick world


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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2026, 12:03:22 PM »
That magazine cover doesn't look real

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2026, 12:07:09 PM »
That magazine cover doesn't look real

Lol, it's not
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2026, 05:28:49 AM »
I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.

I dunno about that one, it’s got 95% rating on rotten tomatoes

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2026, 05:39:36 AM »
I dunno about that one, it’s got 95% rating on rotten tomatoes

95% just means 95% positive.  A movie can have positive reviews overall and still have plenty of critique.

For example.

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The main criticisms  include:The Dialogue: Many viewers found the modern, conversational slang and American accents jarring in an ancient Greek setting.

Or, in getbig terms - the random whore thread can have a page that has an overall positive rating, even if titusisback sprinkles in the random weird ones that aren't hot.

Overall, I just didn't find it epic or memorable.  I was expecting a lot.

It was just fine.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2026, 10:07:56 AM »
The Odyssey is making tons of money and that is what counts.

I doubt too many movie goers have read the book.
I'll bet most don't even know it is a book.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2026, 10:30:43 AM »
The Odyssey is making tons of money and that is what counts.

I doubt too many movie goers have read the book.
I'll bet most don't even know it is a book.

If we are getting technical, I believe it's a poem.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2026, 12:13:12 PM »
That magazine cover doesn't look real

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But it COULD have been real!
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2026, 06:04:29 AM »
wtf would watch that crap?
You know you're gonna watch it at the movie theater

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2026, 09:06:21 AM »
You know you're gonna watch it at the movie theater

Wouldnt even stream it if i got paid.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2026, 09:16:54 AM »
To watch The Odyssee sounds like a 3-hour slog.


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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2026, 12:25:42 PM »
To watch The Odyssee sounds like a 3-hour slog.

Id rather watch BigRo box with Hankins
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2026, 01:04:08 PM »
Too bad it seems a shitty film was made where a great one could be.

I’ll pass on this one..

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2026, 01:43:25 PM »
Id rather watch BigRo box with Hankins

Would watch.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2026, 02:07:54 PM »
Too bad it seems a shitty film was made where a great one could be.

I’ll pass on this one..

Yeah, when they have so much money and resources, why not attempt to do a good one, more true to the sourcematerial and something more of the general would like instead of the Woke-crowd.


Maybe Nolan was Woke-funded.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2026, 04:51:32 PM »
Good movie. Definitely worth the watch.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2026, 05:36:39 PM »
My favorite movie is anything by Tommy Wiseau

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2026, 11:35:01 PM »
I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.

Matt Damon as Odysseus was the first red flag for me. He doesn't have the chops or the gravitas to be Odysseus. I'll be taking a trip to the cinema next week to watch it but I don't expect to be wowed.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #71 on: Today at 03:11:45 AM »
I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #72 on: Today at 07:47:38 AM »
Do you think he went into this thinking he was just going to make a "solid" movie?

He can pick any project he wants - there's no reason to think he went in looking to not make something great.

Well he went looking for a structured deal with a movie studio in such a way where he'd make bank, so money was high on the priorities. Also he wanted to make Troy back in the early 00s but he got looked over. Assuming he had some unfinished business there. And I think every movie maker goes into a project wanting to make something great, why would he be any different?

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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #73 on: Today at 08:38:27 AM »
Well he went looking for a structured deal with a movie studio in such a way where he'd make bank, so money was high on the priorities. Also he wanted to make Troy back in the early 00s but he got looked over. Assuming he had some unfinished business there. And I think every movie maker goes into a project wanting to make something great, why would he be any different?

I'm not sure what we're discussing then.

You basically asked me why I expected a Gladiator-type epic tale, and I told you why.  This doesn't refute that.
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Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
« Reply #74 on: Today at 08:46:32 AM »
I'm not sure what we're discussing then.

You basically asked me why I expected a Gladiator-type epic tale, and I told you why.  This doesn't refute that.

The fact that every movie maker hopes to make an epic movie and in maybe 99% of cases the end result isn't an epic movie should tell you something.

Even Nolans strike rate is well below 25%