2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Grape Ape]

I don’t personally care any more about freeing the Iranians than I do about any other oppressed people. I’ve never bought the idea that we invade countries to liberate them. That’s just the noble sounding story we tell ourselves and the public to justify the action. It’s a pretext, not the real reason. I know you don’t believe the hype either, but maybe this will help drive the point home for the true believers. This wasn’t done for the Iranian people.

My hope is that he inflicts enough damage in the coming strikes to soothe his ego and save face, and then we get the hell outta there.

It wasn't for sure.

However, if that happens, it's a huge bonus.

[Irongrip400]

I think they'll bomb some power plants, bridges, water treatment facilities etc.

This. Nothing much, then the tantrum will be over and we’ll leave the area claiming victory. Iran will still control the straight and we will have wasted much money and credibility. Gay.

[oldschoolfan]

This. Nothing much, then the tantrum will be over and we’ll leave the area claiming victory. Iran will still control the straight and we will have wasted much money and credibility. Gay.

irongrip you have a great point here, trump his supporters and hesgaywerth  have made us  look like a bunch of inept assholes.  this administration is the biggest joke i have seen in my adult lifetime. i sweart trump changes his mind every day several times. 

and for disclaimer i have been republican my whole adult life .   

[obsidian]

Kwon, that's BS. You could argue bridges in the US and Sweden are also used by the military. The B1 bridge was used mostly by civilians. The Iranian's quote you posted is a minority view. The longer the US attacks Iran and commits war crimes, the less vocal that minority will become. Trump's military on the orders of Israel double tapped a school with girls on day one and murdered over 270 girls.  The bombs contained tungsten pellets. The US is completely in the wrong here.

[obsidian]

I don’t personally care any more about freeing the Iranians than I do about any other oppressed people. I’ve never bought the idea that we invade countries to liberate them. That’s just the noble sounding story we tell ourselves and the public to justify the action. It’s a pretext, not the real reason. I know you don’t believe the hype either, but maybe this will help drive the point home for the true believers. This wasn’t done for the Iranian people.

My hope is that he inflicts enough damage in the coming strikes to soothe his ego and save face, and then we get the hell outta there.

It was never about freeing Iranians, Iraqis, Afghanis, Libyans, Vietnamese, etc. It was always about resources and dominance.

Iranians are forming human chains on their bridges. Let's see if Trump is evil enough to bomb them. A few months ago he claimed he wanted to free Iranians from an oppressive government. Now he's bombing those same Iranians. Trump should get cancer and die a painful death. And his entire family and bloodline deserve to get the plague visited on them. Trump should have chosen his family over the fake Jews in Israel. His judgement sucks!

[obsidian]

Nothing unifies a people than being bombed to shit

This. Iran could activate cells in the US if things really get out of hand. What's to prevent them from starting fires all over the place, blowing up gas stations and transformers? Many soft targets to go after. I am surprised they have not done anything yet.

[Grape Ape]

aaaannnnnnd:

TRUMP: "Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.

This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East.

We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.

On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

[Rambone]

Maybe it just collapsed on its own

[walkerblocker]

 

[Rambone]

Futures are up big on the news. Probably plenty of insider trading among Congress. Israel won’t be having this shit.

[WrongAdvices]

Combat Yoga scared them off

[GymnJuice]

I'm glad there's a ceasefire. I never wanted us involved there in the first place.

That said, what Iran is claiming now is noticeably different from what Trump is saying. Iran is announcing that ships can pass through the strait only if they communicate with Iranian authorities to ensure safe passage. This feels like a real shift from the situation before the strikes. Only time will tell whose version is closer to reality.

In any case, most of the ships affected would be those heading to Europe and Asia. I don't think we have a strong need for our own vessels to keep going through there.

If the status quo has truly changed to give Iran greater control over navigation in the strait, then this looks like a clear victory for them. At the same time, it would be a victory for us, the American taxpayer, if we can fully withdraw and never go back.

[obsidian]

https://www.rt.com/news/637586-us-strikes-irans-kharg-island-live/

Tehran's 10-point plan allegedly includes US commitments to non‑aggression, Iran’s continued control over the Strait of Hormuz, acceptance of uranium enrichment, the lifting of all sanctions, termination of UN Security Council and IAEA resolutions, payment of war reparations, withdrawal of US combat forces from the region, and a halt to the war on all fronts, including against the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon.

If Trump agrees to Iran's 10-point plan then the whole point of attacking Iran was a waste of time. Iran will come out in a better position than before the war.

[obsidian]

Futures are up big on the news. Probably plenty of insider trading among Congress. Israel won’t be having this shit.

Clown world. Crypto markets are up, metals up. These traders are so fucking emotional. Nothing about these assets changed the past 24 hours.