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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #325 on: March 06, 2026, 01:37:11 PM »
Kiriakou has told some stories about this behavior.

Kiriakou claimed that when he was at the CIA they had to host the Israelis at a specially assigned location since they always came with gifts which had listening devices in them and they would try to put spy equipment everywhere. Boris Johnson I think claimed Bibi himself put a listening device in his toilet in his office! JFC! Pretty funny stuff.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #326 on: March 06, 2026, 01:44:10 PM »
It’s not Chat but tell me it’s wrong then explain why it’s wrong

Ok. Grok then.

The claim that Israel serves as an indispensable strategic asset to the United States—providing invaluable intelligence, military prowess, technological innovation, regional stability, and a cost-effective force multiplier in the Middle East—overstates benefits while downplaying substantial costs and liabilities. While joint developments like missile defense systems (e.g., Iron Dome) and some intelligence sharing offer mutual gains, and much U.S. aid ($3.8 billion annually under the current MOU, with supplemental billions since 2023 totaling over $21 billion in direct military support through 2025) recycles into American defense jobs and industries, critics from think tanks like CFR, Brookings, and others argue the alliance has become a net strategic liability. Total historical aid exceeds $174 billion (non-inflation-adjusted), with recent analyses estimating broader costs—including regional military operations tied to Israeli conflicts—reaching tens of billions more. Israel’s actions, particularly in ongoing conflicts, strain U.S. diplomacy, damage America’s global image, alienate Arab partners, complicate relations with Iran and others, and entangle Washington in escalatory risks without commensurate reciprocal advantages in broader U.S. priorities like countering China or Russia. Public support has eroded significantly: Pew surveys in 2025 show unfavorable views of the Israeli government at 59% among Americans (up from prior years), with declining favorability toward Israel overall and growing partisan divides, especially among younger voters. Experts increasingly advocate reevaluating or phasing out unconditional aid—given Israel’s advanced economy and military—to foster a more balanced, less dependent partnership that better aligns with U.S. interests amid shifting global dynamics.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #327 on: March 06, 2026, 01:48:59 PM »
Ok. Grok then.

The claim that Israel serves as an indispensable strategic asset to the United States—providing invaluable intelligence, military prowess, technological innovation, regional stability, and a cost-effective force multiplier in the Middle East—overstates benefits while downplaying substantial costs and liabilities. While joint developments like missile defense systems (e.g., Iron Dome) and some intelligence sharing offer mutual gains, and much U.S. aid ($3.8 billion annually under the current MOU, with supplemental billions since 2023 totaling over $21 billion in direct military support through 2025) recycles into American defense jobs and industries, critics from think tanks like CFR, Brookings, and others argue the alliance has become a net strategic liability. Total historical aid exceeds $174 billion (non-inflation-adjusted), with recent analyses estimating broader costs—including regional military operations tied to Israeli conflicts—reaching tens of billions more. Israel’s actions, particularly in ongoing conflicts, strain U.S. diplomacy, damage America’s global image, alienate Arab partners, complicate relations with Iran and others, and entangle Washington in escalatory risks without commensurate reciprocal advantages in broader U.S. priorities like countering China or Russia. Public support has eroded significantly: Pew surveys in 2025 show unfavorable views of the Israeli government at 59% among Americans (up from prior years), with declining favorability toward Israel overall and growing partisan divides, especially among younger voters. Experts increasingly advocate reevaluating or phasing out unconditional aid—given Israel’s advanced economy and military—to foster a more balanced, less dependent partnership that better aligns with U.S. interests amid shifting global dynamics.

He isn’t going to understand any of that. 

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #328 on: March 06, 2026, 01:51:20 PM »
You have that completely backwards even Bibi admits that.

I admit there's debate on who is the dog and who is the tail wagging the dog.

This is long form video which few are likely to watch but here's Berletic saying Israel is an arm extension for the US for the goal of US world primacy.

"US is not Fighting Iran 'For Israel'"



But I would say that since Jews have been so prolific in US government they have influenced US global strategy.

Berletic says we are very close to WWIII or we are already in it in a way, since we could fairly say the US is at war with Russia, you can't say you aren't party to the Ukraine conflict if US is providing targeting data for strikes deep inside Russia plus US personnel has to be involved in using the military hardware, and now US is fighting in the ME plus making war preparations against China.

The latest funny terminology used by for example Marco Rubio is him saying this isn't a war, it's just a limited "operation" LOL. I mean I think they took that from Russia's 'Special Military Operation.'


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #329 on: March 06, 2026, 01:55:47 PM »
Again, they're are Western allies, we need them and they need us. Do you really want to alienate a middle eastern allies? At the very least we need Israel’s intelligence. They’re intelligence sources and capabilities are insane

I don't think we need them at all.

All those middle eastern countries are not the same. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, they all have their own national interests, and they can all be played against one another. We don't need any one individual out of any of them.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #330 on: March 06, 2026, 02:01:07 PM »
Kiriakou claimed that when he was at the CIA they had to host the Israelis at a specially assigned location since they always came with gifts which had listening devices in them and they would try to put spy equipment everywhere. Boris Johnson I think claimed Bibi himself put a listening device in his toilet in his office! JFC! Pretty funny stuff.

I love his post-Monica story about Bill and Hillary in Greece and how Bill hated silience, so he had to constantly make conversation during quiet times.

“Boy, we sure had fun at the Parthenon this morning today. Didn’t we Hill?”

*no response*

“We sure had fun at the Parthenon this morning today. Didn’t we Hill?”

“Jesus Christ, Bill! It’s rained all day. I’ll be in the room!”

*Hillary storms out*

*John Kiriakou is thinking you poor man*

A defeated Bill then says to John: “Let’s get the fuck out of here….”

*Bill gives an incredible speech minutes later to 500 women*

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #331 on: March 06, 2026, 02:05:11 PM »
Kiriakou claimed that when he was at the CIA they had to host the Israelis at a specially assigned location since they always came with gifts which had listening devices in them and they would try to put spy equipment everywhere. Boris Johnson I think claimed Bibi himself put a listening device in his toilet in his office! JFC! Pretty funny stuff.

Yeah, he said pretty much every gift was bugged.

But that was the least offensive stuff they did.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #332 on: March 06, 2026, 02:07:37 PM »
Yeah, he said pretty much every gift was bugged.

But that was the least offensive stuff they did.

Like when they promised they wouldn’t kill the guy who led them to the bad guys and then just mowed everybody down?

Or when they get our politicians drunk and send hookers to their room, so they’re forever blackmailed and controlled?

Trusted allies to say the least…..

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #333 on: March 06, 2026, 06:01:45 PM »
Like when they promised they wouldn’t kill the guy who led them to the bad guys and then just mowed everybody down?

Or when they get our politicians drunk and send hookers to their room, so they’re forever blackmailed and controlled?

Trusted allies to say the least…..

We support Israel
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What do they do for us? When 9/11 happened how did they come to our aid? How strategically useful were they? Or have they been?
They manipulate the public through intense censorship, what does that tell you?
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #334 on: March 06, 2026, 06:19:29 PM »
Ok. Grok then.

The claim that Israel serves as an indispensable strategic asset to the United States—providing invaluable intelligence, military prowess, technological innovation, regional stability, and a cost-effective force multiplier in the Middle East—overstates benefits while downplaying substantial costs and liabilities. While joint developments like missile defense systems (e.g., Iron Dome) and some intelligence sharing offer mutual gains, and much U.S. aid ($3.8 billion annually under the current MOU, with supplemental billions since 2023 totaling over $21 billion in direct military support through 2025) recycles into American defense jobs and industries, critics from think tanks like CFR, Brookings, and others argue the alliance has become a net strategic liability. Total historical aid exceeds $174 billion (non-inflation-adjusted), with recent analyses estimating broader costs—including regional military operations tied to Israeli conflicts—reaching tens of billions more. Israel’s actions, particularly in ongoing conflicts, strain U.S. diplomacy, damage America’s global image, alienate Arab partners, complicate relations with Iran and others, and entangle Washington in escalatory risks without commensurate reciprocal advantages in broader U.S. priorities like countering China or Russia. Public support has eroded significantly: Pew surveys in 2025 show unfavorable views of the Israeli government at 59% among Americans (up from prior years), with declining favorability toward Israel overall and growing partisan divides, especially among younger voters. Experts increasingly advocate reevaluating or phasing out unconditional aid—given Israel’s advanced economy and military—to foster a more balanced, less dependent partnership that better aligns with U.S. interests amid shifting global dynamics.

Not grok or Chat. Let’s see if you watch this. Look, we’re obviously not going to agree on this so it is what it is. But In a more articulate way this is what I’ve been saying way before Trump. It almost seems that those who disagree are taking the sides of Iran, Hezbollah and whatever terrorist proxy.

I thought you'd like this video from PragerU. https://www.prageru.com/video/is-israel-a-liability

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #335 on: March 06, 2026, 06:59:19 PM »
I admit there's debate on who is the dog and who is the tail wagging the dog.

This is long form video which few are likely to watch but here's Berletic saying Israel is an arm extension for the US for the goal of US world primacy.

"US is not Fighting Iran 'For Israel'"



But I would say that since Jews have been so prolific in US government they have influenced US global strategy.

Berletic says we are very close to WWIII or we are already in it in a way, since we could fairly say the US is at war with Russia, you can't say you aren't party to the Ukraine conflict if US is providing targeting data for strikes deep inside Russia plus US personnel has to be involved in using the military hardware, and now US is fighting in the ME plus making war preparations against China.

The latest funny terminology used by for example Marco Rubio is him saying this isn't a war, it's just a limited "operation" LOL. I mean I think they took that from Russia's 'Special Military Operation.'

Iran needs water and that will be they're weakness. They will run out of water much sooner than we run out of dollars.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #336 on: March 06, 2026, 07:35:52 PM »
Not grok or Chat. Let’s see if you watch this. Look, we’re obviously not going to agree on this so it is what it is. But In a more articulate way this is what I’ve been saying way before Trump. It almost seems that those who disagree are taking the sides of Iran, Hezbollah and whatever terrorist proxy.

I thought you'd like this video from PragerU. https://www.prageru.com/video/is-israel-a-liability
I disagree but I'm taking the side of IDGAF what happens to any of them I'm tired of my tax dollars going to fight for other countries that are manipulating our government. We have enough issues here that those billions of dollars could help fix.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #337 on: March 06, 2026, 07:58:29 PM »
I disagree but I'm taking the side of IDGAF what happens to any of them I'm tired of my tax dollars going to fight for other countries that are manipulating our government. We have enough issues here that those billions of dollars could help fix.

Won’t disagree on the dollars part

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #338 on: March 06, 2026, 08:01:24 PM »
We support Israel
Israel supports Israel
What do they do for us? When 9/11 happened how did they come to our aid? How strategically useful were they? Or have they been?
They manipulate the public through intense censorship, what does that tell you?
Hitler was a good man, he had the right idea. We are slowly waking up to the lies and manipulation now that the veil has lifted.
They seek Armageddon, I say go for it! Maybe God will come from the heavens and save them, I'm more than happy to find out.

And there it is, the opinion of the Israel haters in this thread.  Disgraceful

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #339 on: March 06, 2026, 09:10:56 PM »
And there it is, the opinion of the Israel haters in this thread.  Disgraceful

Correction:  It's the opinion of one colossal asshole. 


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #340 on: March 07, 2026, 06:18:36 AM »
''Operation AIPAC Fury''

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #341 on: March 07, 2026, 06:57:54 AM »
Correction:  It's the opinion of one colossal asshole.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #342 on: March 07, 2026, 07:27:21 AM »
Not grok or Chat. Let’s see if you watch this. Look, we’re obviously not going to agree on this so it is what it is. But In a more articulate way this is what I’ve been saying way before Trump. It almost seems that those who disagree are taking the sides of Iran, Hezbollah and whatever terrorist proxy.

I thought you'd like this video from PragerU. https://www.prageru.com/video/is-israel-a-liability

I’d like to inform to you that Dennis Prager is a Zionist Jew. Enjoy your propaganda.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #343 on: March 07, 2026, 07:32:19 AM »
I disagree but I'm taking the side of IDGAF what happens to any of them I'm tired of my tax dollars going to fight for other countries that are manipulating our government. We have enough issues here that those billions of dollars could help fix.

This. Plus it goes entirely against what Trump campaigned on in 2024. It was all about no new wars, taking care of America and overall transparency to all of the shady stuff going on. So far, we’ve got none of that except for shutting the border down and pumping some more oil domestically. He turned his back on the young voters that got him elected, and they’ll never forget it. We’ll probably have an extremely left wing president in 2028 because of this.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #344 on: March 07, 2026, 07:35:37 AM »
We support Israel
Israel supports Israel
What do they do for us? When 9/11 happened how did they come to our aid? How strategically useful were they? Or have they been?
They manipulate the public through intense censorship, what does that tell you?
Hitler was a good man, he had the right idea. We are slowly waking up to the lies and manipulation now that the veil has lifted.
They seek Armageddon, I say go for it! Maybe God will come from the heavens and save them, I'm more than happy to find out.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #345 on: March 07, 2026, 07:36:14 AM »
This. Plus it goes entirely against what Trump campaigned on in 2024. It was all about no new wars, taking care of America and overall transparency to all of the shady stuff going on. So far, we’ve got none of that except for shutting the border down and pumping some more oil domestically. He turned his back on the young voters that got him elected, and they’ll never forget it. We’ll probably have an extremely left wing president in 2028 because of this.

I have hope since the left has not presented a viable option yet.

Need to see where we stand end of summer on everything.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #346 on: March 07, 2026, 07:43:05 AM »
They danced. And danced hard.
I remember that.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #347 on: March 07, 2026, 08:18:13 AM »
And there it is, the opinion of the Israel haters in this thread.  Disgraceful
I don't hate isreal, just like I don't hate iran. I don't give a fuck. I think that whole area should be cut off from the world until they kill themselves off. You don't have to hate something to not be concerned about it's safety.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #348 on: March 07, 2026, 08:27:36 AM »
I’d like to inform to you that Dennis Prager is a Zionist Jew. Enjoy your propaganda.

Have you seen the propaganda in this thread?? Did you watch it? All of these labels lol

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #349 on: March 07, 2026, 09:41:00 AM »
Love when the CIA comes up!  Only second to one thing for self-discrediting (also mentioned above)