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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3750 on: September 09, 2026, 02:22:33 PM »
All this bragging about how we won the war in one day, one week, 83 times in the first month....   and now the Ass Yam has started saying "WHEN we win this war..."     Two months from now it will probably be "IF we win this war..."

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3751 on: September 09, 2026, 03:16:05 PM »
Putin goes limp and you defend him, but you attack Trump. Why aren't you whining about the jews controlling Putin?

Do you think your local mosque is going to hide you when the jews come to take you away in your wheelchair to kiss the wall? :D

I know Putin was at the wall too if I remember correctly and he's met the same type of fucking rabbis that Trump does. I mean my posts get extremely long as it is so I didn't go into what I think on a grander scale LOL. All I was saying to obsidian was that his approach might not be stupid. I could go into why I think so but who will read it you know. You said no ne does. Dudes are probably mad because their fingers get tired from the scrolling :D

Regarding what you said about the military not exactly being happy with their mission, that it's standard, I just watched a clip with Delta Force John 'Shrek' McPhee and he said he knew Iran and Afghanistan were failed missions when he signed up, it was total fucking waste of time, we should never have gone there "like when have we ever done this well? Saddam kept Iran in check, didn't he? BUT I had the fucking time of my life fucking shit up!" So yeah, soldiers soldier and shouldn't ask questions, that's not their role and few Iran war critics are mad at the soldiers themselves. At the same time it does help morale if a war feels very justified, for example protecting the homeland from a real threat.

Meme central...right on cue and clueless as ever. Over memed, under read, full of conspiracy theories and nonsense

Fuck man, who here do you think thinks you read? I've asked you several times for what you think is good reading material. OK you mentioned one media source: PragerU. I have also asked you to define 'conspiracy theory.' So tell me, also tell me how to spot a 'conspiracy theory.' I don't like to be fooled by nonsense and you could help me.

I'm way less of a meme central than you. BTW Trump is a fucking meme machine with all those AI pics and AI cartoons. Is that what you call being serious and not a conspiracy theorist? I could list dozens of ridiculous, on the face of it, conspiracy theories he's spread, totally knowing they're absolute bullshit. If I put up something serious you complain that I'm insecure because I don't give one word answers and you don't like to read long things in general so you should be thankful for 'memetic' (I'm searching for the right term here LOL) posts. I know I'm asking for the impossible here but you could explain why something I post is just meme-nonsense. Jews having tribal agendas and disproportionate and harmful influence is a conspiracy theory (that every fucking US president has believed) but Hamas and the IRGC and communists taking over the US is fucking real? You well read and tightly reasoned? Yeah everyone here sure agrees.

Fuck, I go on for way too long for your sorry ass.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3752 on: September 09, 2026, 03:33:06 PM »
All this bragging about how we won the war in one day, one week, 83 times in the first month....   and now the Ass Yam has started saying "WHEN we win this war..."     Two months from now it will probably be "IF we win this war..."

I said earlier I noticed he's now said "we mostly control the Strait." Fucking mostly, really? It used to be we have have complete fucking control. And it used to be Iran isn't even firing at us anymore. Funny dude. I saw a CNN story about building activity at Pickaxe mountain. Planted propaganda with an agenda in my opinion. Could the agenda be that this could be a face saving exit for Trump? Bomb Pickaxe and then declare we have totally destroyed their nuculars so now we can leave? I believe Trump wants to leave but now it's like you can't win and you can't lose, gotta come up with something.

Meanwhile the Pentagon thinks the US will have to "mow the grass" (Israeli term) periodically for a prolonged period of time because Iran just keeps reconstituting during lulls.

I have some memes for Coach. The conspiracy theorist fake news meme media reported a fake news story about a top secret Pentagon report, that totally doesn't exist, about their assessment on the Iran war and how it affects general US military readiness in the world and the Pentagon response was this. Meme-ing and conspiracy theorizing hard here.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3753 on: September 09, 2026, 04:08:01 PM »
lol..so you don't think we need Israel and Israel doesn't need us? My research doesn't include conspiracy theories
Isreal needs us, 100%, no way do we need isreal.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3754 on: September 09, 2026, 04:14:07 PM »
Isreal needs us, 100%, no way do we need isreal.

Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3755 on: September 09, 2026, 04:18:04 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.
Don't believe it. What reason would we need them? We have several other countries we can and do use for military positioning.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3756 on: September 09, 2026, 07:04:02 PM »
Don't believe it. What reason would we need them? We have several other countries we can and do use for military positioning.

True, but they can't match Israels intelligence especially on the ground at the very least. Aside from their intelligence on the ground that we benefit from it goes deeper than just military. Read this transcript from a source I follow. This is just a short summary....

A growing chorus of voices—from the American left and right—now calls Israel “a liability.”

They say it's time to walk away.

They call this "foreign policy realism."

In fact, it's the opposite.

Israel remains America’s indispensable ally.

Here are five reasons why.

One: The Neighborhood

In geopolitics, as in real estate, three considerations are paramount: location, location, location.

The Middle East holds 48% of the world’s oil reserves and produces nearly a third of its supply.

Some assert that renewables are making oil irrelevant. Not in our lifetimes.

Oil fuels industries. Oil fuels militaries. And oil is priced globally.

Shocks in the Middle East hit the U.S. economy—directly.

Others say America’s own energy boom makes the region irrelevant. That is shortsighted.

What happens in the Middle East doesn’t stay in the Middle East. It moves markets, shakes alliances, and draws in hostile powers.

He who controls the Middle East controls the crossroads of the global economy.

Israel is America’s fortress at that crossroads.

Two: Containing Iran

Critics claim that Israel entangles America with Iran.

This is a profound misunderstanding.

Since its birth in 1979, the Islamic Republic has branded America the “Great Satan” and Israel the “Little Satan.”

Everything Iran does, it does with that order in mind.

To get to the U.S., Iran has to deal with Israel first.

That’s why we, in the interest of our own security, must ensure that Israel has what it needs militarily.

Israel is our front line of defense.

If that bulwark is compromised, Iran will move on to its main targets—dominating the energy resources of the Gulf, and challenging America.

They already have missiles capable of reaching Europe.

Shipping those missiles to Iran’s ally Venezuela would put the Iranians in range of the U.S.—like Soviet missiles in Cuba in 1962, an intolerable threat.

Nuclear weapons in the hands of a terrorist state is not a threat only to Israel.

It’s a threat to us.

Three: Projecting Force

Israel might be small (about the size of New Jersey), but it’s lethal. And it fights.

We can’t say that about many of our allies.

All talk a good game, but few are willing to put their words into action.

Israel is different.

It spends at least 5% of its GDP on defense. The U.S. spends 3.4%.

Many of our NATO allies are struggling to spend 2%. Canada spends 1.3%.

Israel’s air force flies more combat missions annually than NATO’s Western European members combined.

From generals to conscripts, its soldiers are combat-tested.

And they don’t ask others to do their fighting for them.

“Give us the tools, and we’ll finish the job,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said.

As the world has seen, that’s not an idle boast.

In a crisis, we want that kind of ally on our side.

Four: Intelligence Gathering

Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad, is unmatched in daring and results.

In 2018, it raided Iran’s nuclear archive—in Tehran.

In 2024, it launched Operation Grim Beeper, detonating Hezbollah pagers and crippling thousands of terrorists.

These operations revealed deep penetration of both Iran and its proxies.

The U.S. is excellent at gathering and processing intelligence data.

So is Israel.

But when it comes to human intelligence—information from people in positions of personal knowledge—Israel has no peer.

When the U.S. needs eyes on the ground, ears in the room, or insight into the minds of our adversaries, we often turn to Israel.

To say that without Israel the U.S. would be blind in the Middle East would be an exaggeration—but not by much.

Five: Geopolitical Consequences

If the U.S. were to abandon Israel, it would trigger a cascade of disasters.

First, it would signal to every American ally that U.S. commitments are worthless.

Second, it would create a power vacuum in the Middle East that China, Russia, and Iran—all of whom want to bring America down—would eagerly fill.

Third, it would force Israel to seek new partners—likely including China.

This isn’t hypothetical.

Beijing is already courting Gulf allies of the U.S.—investing in high-tech firms and infrastructure, and testing the limits of cooperation with America. Israel is also on Beijing’s shopping list.

Push Israel away, and China will welcome it.

A Chinese-Israeli technological partnership would be a nightmare for America—combining Israeli innovation with Chinese scale.

America’s alliance with Israel is not sentimental—it’s strategic.

While Israel benefits from American support, America benefits from Israel’s considerable capabilities.

In the Middle East, no ally is stronger, more dependable, or more aligned with American interests than Israel.

When America's critics call Israel a liability, they're not practicing realism—they're advocating retreat.

In the face of a rising China, and with Iran on the brink of going nuclear, retreat isn't realistic.

It’s reckless.

And consider this: Do we really want to contemplate abandoning a fellow democracy—a nation that shares our values, and is the source of our own heritage?

What kind of America would we be if we did that?

I’m Michael Doran, Senior Fellow and Director of the Middle East Center at the Hudson Institute

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3757 on: September 09, 2026, 07:41:35 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

No way.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3758 on: September 09, 2026, 11:29:47 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

We don't need them at all.  Period.  Without us, they are toast.  Rightfully so too given how they've behaved in their 80 years of existence. 

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« Reply #3759 on: September 10, 2026, 02:04:10 AM »
Read this transcript from a source I follow. This is just a short summary....


This text looks to me AI generated. I think I've learned to spot some of the signs, the typical wording and structure. Which doesn't mean it's 'fake' per se or that the message is wrong, using AI to make a post using your ideas doesn't necessarily imply that. You do point out it's just a summary. Now I do happen to disagree with the message as well of course LOL. But this is very superficial stuff. This is easy to digest, bullet point messaging for the reader that doesn't want to invest that much thought, a meme-like propaganda text for the masses. Just sayin'. 8)

Before I slept I just read a text on X that you would absolutely love. I'll make an effort to find it again, crossing my fingers I'll find it, it was good. I first thought your text was it LOL.

Edit. Here it is. What do you think? The wording is very AI but it smacks of pure, unadulterated revealed TRUTH that you can feel in your very soul. You shudder reading it.

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Why I stand with Israel

There's something about Israel that makes people uncomfortable, and it's not what they say it is.
They'll point to politics, settlements, borders, and wars. But scratch beneath the outrage, and you'll find something deeper.
A discomfort not with what Israel does, but with what Israel is.

A nation this small should not be this strong. Period. Israel has no oil. No special natural resources. A population barely the size of a mid-sized American city. They are surrounded by enemies.
Hated in the United Nations.
Targeted by terror. Condemned by celebrities. Boycotted, slandered, and attacked.
And still, they thrive like there's no tomorrow.
In military.
In medicine.
In security.
In technology.
In agriculture.
In intelligence.
In morality. In sheer, unbreakable will.
They turn desert into farmland. They make water from air. They intercept rockets in mid-air. They rescue hostages under the nose of the world's worst regimes. They survive wars that were supposed to wipe them out, and win.
The world watches this and can't make sense of it. So they do what people do when they witness strength they can't understand.
They assume it must be cheating.
It must be American aid.
It must be foreign lobbying. It must be oppression.
It must be theft.
It must be some dark trick that gave the Jews this kind of power.
It must be blackmail.
Because heaven forbid it's something else. Heaven forbid it's real. Heaven forbid it's earned. Or worse, destined.
The Jewish people were supposed to disappear a long, long time ago. That's how the story of exiled, enslaved, hated minorities is supposed to end.
But the Jews didn't disappear. They actually came home, rebuilt their land, revived their language, and brought their dead back to life - in memory, in identity, and in strength.
That's not normal.
It's not political.
It's biblical.

There's no cheat code that explains how a group of people return to their homeland after 2,000 years. There is no rational path from gas chambers to global influence. And there is no historical precedent for surviving the Babylonians, the Romans, the Crusaders, the Inquisition, the pogroms, and the Holocaust, and still showing up to work on Monday in Tel Aviv.
Israel doesn't make sense.
Unless you believe in something beyond the math.
This is what drives the world crazy. Because if Israel is real, if this improbable, ancient, hated nation is somehow still chosen, protected, and thriving, then maybe God isn't a myth after all.
Maybe He's still in the story.
Maybe history isn't random.

Maybe evil doesn't get the last word. Maybe the Jews are not just a people… but a testimony.
That's what they can't stand. Because once you admit that Israel's survival isn't just impressive, but divine, everything changes.

Your moral compass has to reset.
Your assumptions about history, power, and justice collapse.
You realize you're not watching the end of an empire. You're witnessing the beginning of something eternal. So they deny it.
They smear it.
And rage against it.
Because it's easier to call a miracle "cheating" than to face the possibility that God keeps His promises. And He's keeping them still. 

Profile of poster on whose page I saw it on. "Away from the MSM"

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3760 on: September 10, 2026, 03:02:39 AM »
Haaretz (leftist Israeli fake news outlet) posted a story about Netanyahu learning 10 days before Oct. 7 that there was an imminent threat of a major operation by Hamas. Mohammed bin Zayed, President of the United Arab Emirates, had called up Netanyahu who then just sat on it, allegedly. MBZ had said Yahya Sinwar was about to do a major operation that would threaten the Abraham Accords, as he warned, among other things. What's interesting is that Israel asked MBZ to issue a denial of the story. See pic below on how they commented. All the opposition politicians have seized the opportunity and said Netanyahu was criminally negligent, at the very least. He had also funneled millions to Hamas for years, which he has admitted and justified. Other intelligence agencies, including Israel's, and nations also reportedly, or I'm going to be cautious and say allegedly, also warned of an imminent attack.

But "we've" known, or at least suspected, this for years now. We've also suspected there was a stand down order on the day.



Some IDF soldiers have come out and said they were in fact told to stand down. And when they did act, the Hannibal Directive was applied. This has been admitted. Possibly hundreds of the victims on the day my have been gunned down by Israel from Apache helicopters. .

The Hannibal Directive (Hebrew: נוהל חניבעל, romanized: Nóhal Khanibaál), also translated as Hannibal Procedure or Hannibal Protocol, is the name of a controversial procedure used by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces. Writer Eyal Weizman has stated that while the contents are still classified, "the following formulation, at the top of the directive, was made public: 'the kidnapping must be stopped by all means, even at the price of striking and harming our own forces.'"

See the bombed out cars on Oct 7 in third pic. Hellfire missiles, 30mm guns fired from the Apaches, not Hamas. Fleeing vehicles with Israeli hostages were bombed.

Now why would Netanyahu want this to happen? The obvious reason, to me, is that this helped Israel's or Netanyahu's grand agenda in so many ways. Sacrifice those liberal leftist dope smoking hippies at the EDM festival and galvanize support for cleansing out the Palestinians. It's the worst tragedy since the Holocaust (which means 'burnt offering' aka sacrifice interestingly) so it's only right. Now you also have some reason to go into Syria, Lebanon, Iran and so on. Greater Israel.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3761 on: September 10, 2026, 06:35:20 AM »


Here are five reasons why.

One: The Neighborhood

Plenty of other countries that we could work with, with the right negotiations. Isreal is not special in that regard, in fact other countries could not only provide us strategic placement in the middle east, but may also be able to provide oil resources as well.

Two: Containing Iran

Not our problem really. Since we made it our problem, we should have decimated them from the very beginning instead of pussy footing around playing with them and dragging this out. This is a big reason people are turning on isreal as most people see this whole thing with Eeron as the US doing isreals bidding.

Three: Projecting Force

Again, plenty of other countries that would work with us, especially if we weren't seen as isreals enforcer.

Four: Intelligence Gathering

One of the biggest reasons we are dragged into doing isreals bidding is their "intelligence" that always seems to show how they're the victims or they're about to be the victims. Myself and millions of people question the information they are feeding our government and how it relates to the isreali advancement within our government and their own country.

Five: Geopolitical Consequences

We don't have to abandon anyone to keep them at arms length and let them know they need to stay in their lane.



I’m Michael Doran, Senior Fellow and Director of the Middle East Center at the Hudson Institute

Michael Doran is a senior fellow and director of the Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East at Hudson Institute. He specializes in Middle East security issues and cohosts Israel Update.

Seems like Michael might have a little vested interest in keeping America on isreals leash.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3762 on: September 10, 2026, 07:08:02 AM »
This afro sounds reasonable and I think he's entertaining too. Probably no one will watch but I include the video as reference. He's a retired US Navy commander and has commanded a destroyer in the Strait of Hormuz. He's extremely critical of people like Hegseth but he doesn't want the US to fail. He says Iran is now a top 5 world superpower, which no one thought before the war. He talks about Iran's missiles and what could happen if they decided to attack a carrier. Iran claims the recent missile attack was just to test a new missile; they shot an airburst over George Washington, intention was not to hit the carrier. Fella asks to imagine if Iran decided to shoot those cluster warheads at a carrier along with those volleys of other missiles we saw in Jordan. He says IF Iran decided to do that it would change the world. The only possible response would be a mass invasion or nukes. But Iran doesn't want to do that for that obvious reason. It's why it's silly to claim that if Iran had nukes they would immediately launch them at US and Israel like Trump did. More level headed people say if they had nukes they would then hold the whole region hostage and that's a more fair point. He along with many other of these conspiracy theorists think early October Iran will do a major show of force to disrupt both the US and Israeli elections.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3763 on: September 10, 2026, 08:27:01 AM »
Seems like Vans boy is having a buyers remorse….


https://x.com/autisticclip/status/2097536116182175847?s=46

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3764 on: September 10, 2026, 08:47:05 AM »
This text looks to me AI generated. I think I've learned to spot some of the signs, the typical wording and structure. Which doesn't mean it's 'fake' per se or that the message is wrong, using AI to make a post using your ideas doesn't necessarily imply that. You do point out it's just a summary. Now I do happen to disagree with the message as well of course LOL. But this is very superficial stuff. This is easy to digest, bullet point messaging for the reader that doesn't want to invest that much thought, a meme-like propaganda text for the masses. Just sayin'. 8)

Before I slept I just read a text on X that you would absolutely love. I'll make an effort to find it again, crossing my fingers I'll find it, it was good. I first thought your text was it LOL.

Edit. Here it is. What do you think? The wording is very AI but it smacks of pure, unadulterated revealed TRUTH that you can feel in your very soul. You shudder reading it.

Profile of poster on whose page I saw it on. "Away from the MSM"

Can you read? It’s not AI

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3765 on: September 10, 2026, 09:38:59 AM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

lol, no we don’t. They give us nothing in return and take take take from us. AIPAC has infiltrated our government, can the same be said for us? No, listen to how they’ve spoken of us, they do not see us as equals.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3766 on: September 10, 2026, 10:00:34 AM »
Can you read? It’s not AI

It reads like AI-generated text.  All the emdashes are a tell tale sign. 

How do you know it’s not AI-generated?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3767 on: September 10, 2026, 10:22:25 AM »
Can you read? It’s not AI

What ProudVirgin69 said. If you see enough AI generated text on the net you can spot the tell tale signs. It doesn't necessarily mean the message in the text is wrong but you can draw other inferences from its use. I might be wrong but I think you can link a video to an AI and it can write this type of summary of it. AI generated text just looks very ugly after a while, from an aesthetic perspective.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3768 on: September 10, 2026, 10:45:38 AM »
I kept seeing people calling Bessent gay. I thought as in silly, stupid, whatever. But now I googled and he's an actual homo with a husband too LOL, I didn't even know.

Bessent and Rubio have now been saying the SoH is an "international responsibility." To me this sounds like some kind of excuse and cope if Iranian control can't be stopped by the U.S, "hey, it's not our responsibility."

Reporter: you said gas prices would come down, how do you explain this to Americans?

Trump: it's very easy to explain, Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.

I see some kind of mock-up of Pickaxe mountain has been built in White Sand missile range. So Trump must be seriously considering something there or the money would not be spent. I don't know but seems to me like those mass ordnance penetrators wouldn't destroy anything, penetrators of which there are only a few anyway. Some kind of special operations raid to seize the material? That would be pretty exiting.

"The war was won in the first three weeks" someone said. I don't know what will happen but so far my skepticism about US prospects wrt this conflict hasn't been wrong or has it? And this from relying on memes and conspiracy theorists.

Trump has said he could take a "big fat shot right at the front door." Sure you can bomb the entrances and then what?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3769 on: September 10, 2026, 11:14:34 AM »
I kept seeing people calling Bessent gay. I thought as in silly, stupid, whatever. But now I googled and he's an actual homo with a husband too LOL, I didn't even know.



Trump is supposedly the anti-gay President.

If he wasn't working for Trump, you would have known, because it would be being celebrated in the media 24/7, especially by the leftist sites you frequent.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3770 on: September 10, 2026, 01:58:36 PM »
Seems like Vans boy is having a buyers remorse….


https://x.com/autisticclip/status/2097536116182175847?s=46

I said on another thread that Nick's been joking like this for a long time now, "maybe the Jews were right about the goyim!," because he's frustrated with "low IQ antisemitism," thinks people like Dan Bilzerian are dummies.  I'm unimpressed with this low IQ antisemitism myself LOL. I've told you that you can look at different people and agree and disagree with different parts of what they are selling, it's not black and white, and I've also said I disagree with some of the things he's saying. I said he has an 'attractive style' which is why he has an audience in the first place and I saw it ten years ago. I said that whether you agree or disagree with what he's saying most would say he's intelligent, as some Zionist Jews said, "Nick is a vile antisemite but he understands things on a deeper level, unlike dummies such as Tucker and Candace."

You also have to wonder why he's been boosted so much by the Jew owned press lately, which is why some high IQ antisemites think he's owned now. I reserve final judgement LOL, we'll see how things play out in the future.

You'll probably not watch, I have a hard time settling down for long videos too and time constraints make you have to discriminate, but I thought this sounded entirely reasonable. Regarding the recent Haaretz report on Bibi. Plenty antisemitism here. Smart fella IMO.



Trump is supposedly the anti-gay President.

If he wasn't working for Trump, you would have known, because it would be being celebrated in the media 24/7, especially by the leftist sites you frequent.

Grape, come on man, there's plenty to criticize with me, "leftist sites you frequent" is not it. Saying antisemitic right-wing extremist sites I would agree with. Not that I don't ever browse the MSM etc. Your right wing equals Zionism. If it's not Zionist it's left wing. It's how Coach defines left and right wing also.

But to your point, yes I agree I'd probably known because you can't avoid the internet "public square" which includes the MSM. I never thought Trump was anti-gay; I'm sure he's done off-color faggot bashing here and there like most males but he said he went into Iran to rescue the queers FFS!

Personally I'm not queer friendly but I'm not about to go gay bashing either. They are there, always have been and always will be, but the gay culture is not something to be celebrated IMO.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3771 on: September 10, 2026, 02:04:16 PM »


no matter how deep and secure those places are they have to have ventilation shafts, few gallons of petrol down and a match and they are all fucked

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3772 on: September 10, 2026, 02:28:39 PM »
no matter how deep and secure those places are they have to have ventilation shafts, few gallons of petrol down and a match and they are all fucked

I don't know but I'd think it's insulated in a way where you can shut those shafts off at various stages as needed and so on and so forth? Otherwise for example strategic petroleum reserves would be just one little cigarette butt accident away from from being completely annihilated right? You could drop those bunker busters on the entrances and it could take along time for the Iranians to dig out. If Trump was smart he could say we're keeping close watch that they're not reconstituting the sites after a bombing, just like he said not even months ago, "they're not getting at the uranium, our satellites are keeping watch 24/7 and there's been no movement, we've completely obliterated their nuclear capability."

But here's the thing, Iran has a multibillion deal with Russia to develop their civilian nuclear, at Bushehr for example where Russians work, and you could argue they could divert that into military, but what's the US going to do to shut that down, go to war with Russia?

There's a tiny chance Iran effectively already has "a nuke." I'd say unlikely but not impossible. The US admits it doesn't positively even know where the "dust" is and how many centrifuges they have and where they are, it doesn't know what all goes on in Pickaxe mountain. All they have is satellite images of ongoing construction work. No one but the Iranians know what their missile inventory is either. US intelligence has given different assumed figures throughout this conflict as you know. During war time Iran keeps introducing new more advanced missiles, ironic right?

Many think the JCPOA was the best thing available to contain them.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3773 on: September 10, 2026, 02:54:06 PM »

Grape, come on man, there's plenty to criticize with me, "leftist sites you frequent" is not it. Saying antisemitic right-wing extremist sites I would agree with. Not that I don't ever browse the MSM etc.

But to your point, yes I agree I'd probably known because you can't avoid the internet "public square" which includes the MSM. I never thought Trump was anti-gay; I'm sure he's done off-color faggot bashing here and there like most males but he said he went into Iran to rescue the queers FFS!

Personally I'm not queer friendly but I'm not about to go gay bashing either. They are there, always have been and always will be, but the gay culture is not something to be celebrated IMO.

I wasn't really criticizing - honestly, I rarely read your stuff - it's too much text, and with memes there's never any source or anything to confirm.

I based it on the one Loomer thing you posted the other day, that was so absurd it had to come from the left.

But the overall point stands.  Trump criticized other countries for criminalizing homosexuality, has the highest ranking gay cabinet member (nh) ever, has had gay weddings at Mar-a-lago, etc.......but the media has the gays thinking he wants them in camps.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3774 on: September 10, 2026, 04:45:23 PM »
I wasn't really criticizing - honestly, I rarely read your stuff - it's too much text, and with memes there's never any source or anything to confirm.

I based it on the one Loomer thing you posted the other day, that was so absurd it had to come from the left.

But the overall point stands.  Trump criticized other countries for criminalizing homosexuality, has the highest ranking gay cabinet member (nh) ever, has had gay weddings at Mar-a-lago, etc.......but the media has the gays thinking he wants them in camps.

There is plenty to criticize Trump about but he's very equal opportunity. As long as you can get him results I don't think he cares about sexuality, race, religion... anything really outside of how it benefits him personally.