BONDS vs. Barbaro

[Below Me]

Both are/were on a bunch of performance enhancing drugs.

One breaks a milestone.
One breaks a leg.

Why all the fuss about the broken leg and little about the milestone?

[Mr. Intenseone]

Both are/were on a bunch of performance enhancing drugs.

One breaks a milestone.
One breaks a leg.

Why all the fuss about the broken leg and little about the milestone?

The only thing they have in common is they both take the same amount of gear!

[BM OUT]

Don't you understand?The media thinks taking steroids is far worse then heroin,cocaine and anything else.These idiots applaud Garry Shefield taking a cortisone shot or Brett Favre getting hooked on vicodin or Lawrence Taylor smoking crack and putting Apple juice in his urine sample,just as long as you don't take steroids.Darryl Strawberry smokes crack and punches his wife and the media applaud his courage when he comes back.Barry Bonds committed the mortal sin for which there is no repentance,he took steroids to help him play better.Had he been a crack head the media would have elevated him to God like status.

[Palpatine Q]

Both are/were on a bunch of performance enhancing drugs.

One breaks a milestone.
One breaks a leg.

Why all the fuss about the broken leg and little about the milestone?

 That's what is wrong with society today. In today's Newsday there's a picture on the back page of two girls with posters that say "Barbaro your'e our hero"  and "we beleive in miracles"  We are talking about a fvcking HORSE that broke it's leg running,which is what horses do.. It didn't run into a burning building to rescue someone.

[jaejonna]

Don't you understand?The media thinks taking steroids is far worse then heroin,cocaine and anything else.These idiots applaud Garry Shefield taking a cortisone shot or Brett Favre getting hooked on vicodin or Lawrence Taylor smoking crack and putting Apple juice in his urine sample,just as long as you don't take steroids.Darryl Strawberry smokes crack and punches his wife and the media applaud his courage when he comes back.Barry Bonds committed the mortal sin for which there is no repentance,he took steroids to help him play better.Had he been a crack head the media would have elevated him to God like status.

Drug addiction is a diasease now,
So is eat too much food,
so is being nervous,
so is being gay,
so is being on the internet...

Taking Steroids is a crime!!
But body dismorphia is a disease...
But TAKING STEROIDS IS A CRIME!!

oh and GOOD POST !!

[Hedgehog]

Don't you understand?The media thinks taking steroids is far worse then heroin,cocaine and anything else.These idiots applaud Garry Shefield taking a cortisone shot or Brett Favre getting hooked on vicodin or Lawrence Taylor smoking crack and putting Apple juice in his urine sample,just as long as you don't take steroids.Darryl Strawberry smokes crack and punches his wife and the media applaud his courage when he comes back.Barry Bonds committed the mortal sin for which there is no repentance,he took steroids to help him play better.Had he been a crack head the media would have elevated him to God like status.

Strawberry didn't use crack to become a better player.

Bonds used his substance to become a better baseball player.

Both broke the law. But Bonds is the one who cheated.

Cheating is always gonna be looked down upon by the public.

Even if the "cheating" is more or less accepted within the culture of baseball players, the public will not accept it.

YIP
Zack

[BM OUT]

Cheating is defined as breaking the rules to get a competative advantage.Bonds broke ZERO rules in baseball.Taylor and Strawberry broker the rules of their games.Bonds used drugs to play better,thats seen as wrong,but a guy using drugs to destroy his life,career and family,thats ok.Great thinking.

[jaejonna]

Strawberry didn't use crack to become a better player.

Bonds used his substance to become a better baseball player.

Both broke the law. But Bonds is the one who cheated.

Cheating is always gonna be looked down upon by the public.

Even if the "cheating" is more or less accepted within the culture of baseball players, the public will not accept it.

YIP
Zack

The rules in Baseball at the time were non existent and the usage was encouraged.
The only ones who think its cheating are the idealist in baseball who think in terms of storybooks and fairytales.....

[pumpster]

Cheating is defined as breaking the rules to get a competative advantage.Bonds broke ZERO rules in baseball.

You're completely taken with the fine technical print; in the real world & court of public opinion, it's glaringly obvious he trampled the rules. Especially egregious given baseball's tradition vs. doing same in other sports.

[Palpatine Q]

You're completely taken with the fine technical print; in the real world & court of public opinion, it's glaringly obvious he trampled the rules. Especially egregious given baseball's tradition vs. doing same in other sports.

I am so sick and tired of hearing about baseballs tradition,history,integrity blahblahblah.......If barry bonds played in the same era as Babe Ruth he'd have 1200 homers. Bigger stronger faster just like every other sport on the face of the earth

[BM OUT]

The court of public opinion.Last poll I saw,had it about 80-20 percent in favor of Bonds and him being crucified for nothing.The only people outraged are the idots in the media who arent even big enough to play put-put golf.

[pumpster]

Again you're confused-the public largely has no problem with Bonds' use of drugs, but has a major problem with him as a person and with his moral character.  In the court of public opinion re: Bonds himself, he's broken every possible rule short of kiddie porn. Now you get it!

[240 is Back]

You ever seen a crackhead run?  They're like lightning. LTaylor definintely had an edge by bassing up before games. 

Unless you believe his words that he smoked crack 6 days a week for many years, but never on game day...

[onlyme]

That's what is wrong with society today. In today's Newsday there's a picture on the back page of two girls with posters that say "Barbaro your'e our hero"  and "we beleive in miracles"  We are talking about a fvcking HORSE that broke it's leg running,which is what horses do.. It didn't run into a burning building to rescue someone.

Well he was going to a burning building but he broke his leg trying.

[pumpster]

That's what is wrong with society today. In today's Newsday there's a picture on the back page of two girls with posters that say "Barbaro your'e our hero"  and "we beleive in miracles"  We are talking about a fvcking HORSE

All that matters is whether he inspires, not why. It's easy to understand why, in the case IMO.

[bmacsys]

Don't you understand?The media thinks taking steroids is far worse then heroin,cocaine and anything else.These idiots applaud Garry Shefield taking a cortisone shot or Brett Favre getting hooked on vicodin or Lawrence Taylor smoking crack and putting Apple juice in his urine sample,just as long as you don't take steroids.Darryl Strawberry smokes crack and punches his wife and the media applaud his courage when he comes back.Barry Bonds committed the mortal sin for which there is no repentance,he took steroids to help him play better.Had he been a crack head the media would have elevated him to God like status.

Dude, you don't get it. People dislike Bonds because he is a LIAR and a PRICK. He has no redeeming qualities. His own teamates can't stand him. Many are on record as saying such. It isn't the steroids, Its his inability to tell the truth about anything.

[bmacsys]

The court of public opinion.Last poll I saw,had it about 80-20 percent in favor of Bonds and him being crucified for nothing.The only people outraged are the idots in the media who arent even big enough to play put-put golf.

You haven't watched too many Giant road games or read any real polls that have been taken by SI etc..

[bmacsys]

You're completely taken with the fine technical print; in the real world & court of public opinion, it's glaringly obvious he trampled the rules. Especially egregious given baseball's tradition vs. doing same in other sports.

Yes, in Baseball stats are a sacred thing. In other sports they aren't quite as much. In Hockey, Football and Basketball there are constantly rule changes that have a great impact on scoring in those sports. Basketball- zone defense, hand checking, 3 point arc being added in 1979, it being moved in to 22' from 23'9". Football- moving the goalposts, offensive lineman having to have closed hands, defensive backs not being able to touch the wide receiver after 5 yards. Hockey seems to be always tweaking things to bring more scoring- outlawing the nuetral zone trap or whatever it was called, making the goalie pads smaller, the shootout to eliminate ties. Baseball is more static. Lowering the mound in 1969 and adding the DH in 1973 are about the only rule changes. How the umps determine the strike zone has been changed by MLB over the years. The DH has definately skewed offensive numbers over the years in the American League. Guys who can still swing a bat but otherwise can't do anything else seem to play forever. Like Harold Baines, Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield, Chili Davis, Paul Moliter, Jose Canseco.

[BM OUT]

Bonds might be the worst guy in the world,BUT that doesnt make him a cheater.He has NEVER cheated and followed every rule that the MLB put in front of him,and played better then EVERYONE over the last thirty years.Just because your a jerk,doesnt make you a cheater.I will say this,you can say Bonds is a liar because he wont admit steroid use[with our wicked government ,Id think you would understand why]but at least hes not a two faced idiot like Curt Schilling who talks a lot of smack about steroids but when he sits in the congressional hearings he pisses in his pants and acts like a gutless coward.

[pumpster]

Bonds might be the worst guy in the world,BUT that doesnt make him a cheater.He has NEVER cheated and followed every rule that the MLB put in front of him,and played better then EVERYONE over the last thirty years

You're delusional; WTF are you babbling out he's never cheated? Do you work for him? The only thing is that he's technically innocent. No one actually believes he's innocent other than a few nuts like you.

Then throw in the repulsive persona and you've entered OJ territory, who BTW is also technically innocent. Both are pariahs.

[BM OUT]

You misunderstand.I believe Bonds did take steroids,however THAT IS NOT CHEATING!!!!!!!!I'm not delusional at all.I think he took advantage of the piss poor rules MLB set down and used whatever he thought would help him play better.I find that admirable.I believe all athletes need to take advantage of whatever they can to perform at the highest levels and if there is no rule prohibiting it then its all good.In fact,right now there is no reliable test for growth hormone  and they don't test for insulin.As far as I'm concerned all pro athletes should use both,to not only enhance their performance but to help them heal up and extend their careers.Unlike some on here,I'm pro steroid use and find it laughable that there are still anti-steroid guys posting on a bodybuilding website.

[pumpster]

So just because he wasn't caught he wasn't cheating.. Technically OJ's a great guy.

[body88]

You misunderstand.I believe Bonds did take steroids,however THAT IS NOT CHEATING!!!!!!!!I'm not delusional at all.I think he took advantage of the piss poor rules MLB set down and used whatever he thought would help him play better.I find that admirable.I believe all athletes need to take advantage of whatever they can to perform at the highest levels and if there is no rule prohibiting it then its all good.In fact,right now there is no reliable test for growth hormone  and they don't test for insulin.As far as I'm concerned all pro athletes should use both,to not only enhance their performance but to help them heal up and extend their careers.Unlike some on here,I'm pro steroid use and find it laughable that there are still anti-steroid guys posting on a bodybuilding website.

YEs because you need steriods to BB I wonder how good youre  work ethic is clean. I bet youre the type of juice monkey that cant take a shit without smashing 2 grams of test into youre ass

HARDCORE

[BM OUT]

Ever been to a natural powerlifting or natural bodybuilding show,THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!Ive been training for twenty five years and  competing for 17,so one thing I don't need,is your advise when it comes to training or work ethic.As far as Bonds not getting caught?I don't understand that.I'm saying he took steroids and I'm saying steroids IS NOT CHEATING!!!!!!!!!It has nothing to do with getting caught.I'm saying using steroids when there is no policy against them makes there user LEGIT.

[pumpster]

Your logic's completely warped and worse, you don't even realize it because you separate out on related fact from the next when they actually fit together.