Author Topic: Creatine while cutting? (Read 3716 times)

Jr. Franco · « **on:** June 12, 2006, 12:42:16 AM »

Is creatine usefull or useless while ur trying to lean out, if anybodys got some info that would be great.

MCWAY · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2006, 10:52:14 AM »

Quote from: Jr. Franco on June 12, 2006, 12:42:16 AM

Is creatine usefull or useless while ur trying to lean out, if anybodys got some info that would be great.

Useful? That's an understatement. Creatine is a HUGE assest, when you're trying to get lean. It helps you maintain your strength, big time.

I stopped using it for a while, when I was trying to drop some lbs., because I'd run out of V-12 and the only creatine product I had left was CELL-TECH. But, as my strength started to fade, I said "Enough of this mess!!! Just because I'm losing weight doesn't mean I have to get weaker."

I'd cut my carbs considerably, but I remember reading articles on how bodybuilders use creatine (CELL-TECH, in particular) to hold on to their size while they're dieting. So, I made a change. Since loading with CELL-TECH meant consuming 150 g of carbs (dextrose), I would simply deduct 150 g of carbs from my other meals (No juice, a little less rice, etc). For maintenance doses, I'd only have to cut 75 g of carbs from my other food to compensate for consuming a post-workout serving of CELL-TECH.

It worked great. I regain much of my lost strength and felt fantastic, in the process. You may not have to do any carb-balancing act, if you don't use a creatine cocktail like CELL-TECH or Phosphagen HP. But that's what I did, because it made no sense to buy more creatine, when I had nearly 2 months worth of CELL-TECH sitting on my shelf.

But, using creatine while leaning out? ABSOLUTELY!!!

The BEAST · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2006, 11:18:33 AM »

I completely agree with MCWAY-I started taking creatine 2 months inti my dieting and saw better workouts using it while still losing fat. I didn't bloat on it at all, just make sure to use a high quality product, personally I use Pride Nutrition's Kryptonite. Before I started taking it I was nervous about the results...I like it so much now that I up my usual 1/2 serving to a whole serving the week of my shows to pull more water into my muscles.

benchmstr · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2006, 01:29:25 PM »

Quote from: The BEAST on June 12, 2006, 11:18:33 AM

I completely agree with MCWAY-I started taking creatine 2 months inti my dieting and saw better workouts using it while still losing fat. I didn't bloat on it at all, just make sure to use a high quality product, personally I use Pride Nutrition's Kryptonite. Before I started taking it I was nervous about the results...I like it so much now that I up my usual 1/2 serving to a whole serving the week of my shows to pull more water into my muscles.

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Jr. Yates · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2006, 02:44:18 PM »

C'mon dude you know what Creatine is and how it works, Im not even going to answer this one.

trulytoned · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2006, 03:04:43 PM »

someone stole my creatine

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #6 on:** June 12, 2006, 05:01:57 PM »

Then don't answer it yates hahaha, I havent taken the shit for like over a year so dont lecture me.

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2006, 05:39:54 PM »

Quote from: Jr. Franco on June 12, 2006, 05:01:57 PM

Then don't answer it yates hahaha, I havent taken the shit for like over a year so dont lecture me.

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Arnold jr · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2006, 06:32:19 PM »

Quote from: The BEAST on June 12, 2006, 11:18:33 AM

I completely agree with MCWAY-I started taking creatine 2 months inti my dieting and saw better workouts using it while still losing fat. I didn't bloat on it at all, just make sure to use a high quality product, personally I use Pride Nutrition's Kryptonite. Before I started taking it I was nervous about the results...I like it so much now that I up my usual 1/2 serving to a whole serving the week of my shows to pull more water into my muscles.

Really? I've used a million types of creatine in the past, from the very cheap to the ultra-expensive, and I've yet to find one that doesn't bloat me and cause my face to look like a chipmunk...and when I say bloat, I mean serious bloat, much more then any AAS has ever bloated me out, much, much more, and it seems to take a long time for the bloat to subside. Last off, I've honestly never noticed much in terms of benefits from using it, but hey that's me...if it works for all of you, then great, keep using it.

Maybe like a lot of things, creatine is something that effects everyone a little differently.

Crazykid909 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2006, 06:54:08 PM »

Creatine is a must when dieting, it realy does help with strenght and stamina. However, creatine is known to make people retain alot of water, so for that reason many people will stop taking creatine a few weeks before a contest....if you want razor cuts then consider cutting out creatine.

The BEAST · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2006, 08:16:13 AM »

Quote from: Crazykid909 on June 12, 2006, 06:54:08 PM

Creatine is a must when dieting, it realy does help with strenght and stamina. However, creatine is known to make people retain alot of water, so for that reason many people will stop taking creatine a few weeks before a contest....if you want razor cuts then consider cutting out creatine.

I strongly disagree with this. While taking creatine from contest prep I feel my muscles are fuller. Stay away from monohydrate products which may cause this and play around with it before but I have personally done shows and not taken it and have looked flatter then when I do.

JamieX4200 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2006, 03:07:13 PM »

So when is the best time to take it..? Post workout?

kicker · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2006, 03:15:12 PM »

Quote from: JamieX4200 on June 14, 2006, 03:07:13 PM

So when is the best time to take it..? Post workout?

Take it post-workout...5 grams with your protein/carb shake.

Also, there is no need to go through a loading phase.

JamieX4200 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2006, 03:24:51 PM »

thanks

The BEAST · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:18:50 PM »

I always take it pre-workout and feel I get a better workout because of it...I use a good protein shake after. I would also recommend splitting it up and taking 1/2 before and 1/2 after your workout..

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:45:52 PM »

I will have to try that out beast, thanks.

MCWAY · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2006, 02:20:36 AM »

Quote from: Jr. Franco on June 14, 2006, 05:45:52 PM

I will have to try that out beast, thanks.

How's the diet and cutting going?

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2006, 07:29:36 PM »

It's going good man started at 236Lbs, down to about 217Lbs and slowly but surely keeping more and more off been about lil over a month now I think, been doing my cardio at 6:30 am which I find is helping alot to.

MCWAY · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2006, 02:04:34 AM »

Quote from: Jr. Franco on July 18, 2006, 07:29:36 PM

It's going good man started at 236Lbs, down to about 217Lbs and slowly but surely keeping more and more off been about lil over a month now I think, been doing my cardio at 6:30 am which I find is helping alot to.

Have you been using creatine? If so, how have you done so?

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:05:21 PM »

Yah i have, powder 5 grams before and after my work out find my strength is staying the same while I'm dieting.

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2006, 06:01:58 PM »

I've found that it makes no god damn difference.

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:42:05 PM »

I dunno i've just noticed that before i was taking it my strength kept going down but on it, it'sbeen keeping me level.

trulytoned · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2006, 09:22:28 PM »

its all in the head

Jr. Franco · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2006, 10:30:47 PM »

haha i keep traing logs killer with what im on kinda lets me know

MCWAY · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2006, 02:20:35 AM »

Quote from: Jr. Franco on July 20, 2006, 10:30:47 PM

haha i keep traing logs killer with what im on kinda lets me know

That definitely helps. Plus, as long as you fix every other parameter of your training and diet regime, you can make an accurate evaluation as to whether or not something new is working.

That's how I found out, first-hand, that using creatine (CELL-TECH, in particular) was a great product to use, when dropping weight.