Author Topic: I want YOUR opinion... (Read 7096 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #25 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:24:57 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 18, 2006, 09:39:22 AM

Sounds cool. I'd like to see an event where you offered $5k to whichever IFBB guy competing at the O could bench the most, or bench 225 the most reps (safer than a max). I am sure most bottom half guys would enter (as they're not leaving with any cash anyway) and you might have a few top guys trying it too. Even if the numbers are low as the guys will be depleted, seeing branch do 225 17 times to beat a Johnny jackson 16 times would be some cool theater!

Also Chris- very cool to come on here and ask for opinions. Ppl will shoot ya straight here.

This is exactly why I end up always replying to your posts 240. I'll be reading along, dum dum da dum dum up pops a really stupid comment. Figures, it's from 240 again... That you remotely think this is feasible is a testament to how clueless you are. No serious competitor is going to kill himself maxing out on reps with 225/300lbs. The original idea is much better. I shouldn't be surprised after you thought it would be a good idea to have a comedian perform between shows.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #26 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:27:00 PM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on June 18, 2006, 02:30:06 PM

Totally cool idea. I presume, of course, that there would be some kind of sportsbook for, um, those who might want to wager a bit.

on what, who passes out and is rushed to the hospital first?

danielson · « **Reply #27 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:31:01 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on June 18, 2006, 04:24:57 PM

This is exactly why I end up always replying to your posts 240. I'll be reading along, dum dum da dum dum up pops a really stupid comment. Figures, it's from 240 again... That you remotely think this is feasible is a testament to how clueless you are. No serious competitor is going to kill himself maxing out on reps with 225/300lbs. The original idea is much better. I shouldn't be surprised after you thought it would be a good idea to have a comedian perform between shows.

Carrottop?

UK Gold · « **Reply #28 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:33:04 PM »

Its a gret idea Chris, and much more exciting than watching Ronnie 'raise the roof' for the ninth time. It would be fantastic publicity for the winner - and your company. How cool would it be if a total unknown bodybuilder turned up and won; he would become an immediate sensation [at least on the boards].

240 is Back · « **Reply #29 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:55:47 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on June 18, 2006, 04:24:57 PM

No serious competitor is going to kill himself maxing out on reps with 225/300lbs.

1) No pro Bber is going to 'kill himself' with one set, on friday night, before the Sat show. And there are about 15 guys who will be making zero dollars at the O in prize monies. A shot at 5k would be quite interesting to them. If guy #1 goes and does 10 reps, hell, they might give it a shot. If guy#2 does 30 reps, it might not be worth the risk. but 5K is a LOT of money for 90 seconds of your time. And IIRC, Ronnie did it 70+ reps once, and he had a show the next day. Anyone remember that?

2) I still do think a B-level comedian would make it a more interesting show.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #30 on:** June 18, 2006, 05:09:18 PM »

Oh, are you taking about actual O competitors competing in this the day before the O?? If so LMFAO. The competitors hate to even attend a banquet the night before. How many times have we seen Lee Priest et al. bitch about that, how they are sooo tired the night before. Benching the night before? Just forget it.

chris_mason · « **Reply #31 on:** June 18, 2006, 05:14:49 PM »

If this gets put together AtLarge will not be the only sponsor. We are talking over $10,000 in possible prize money plus having a large are in the expo itself to run it.

If it goes it WILL be very cool. Speaking with the promoter the idea has morphed to having 3 weight classes with 4 lifters in each class. These will most likely be strength athletes.

After that competition I am thinking we could have a 405 for reps contest with bodybuilders competing as well? What about something like that?

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #32 on:** June 18, 2006, 05:16:10 PM »

My opinion:

Stop wasting your $ on st00pid stuff like this, and use the savings to lower the price of Nitrean.

Hope this helps.

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #33 on:** June 18, 2006, 05:53:19 PM »

Quote from: chris_mason on June 18, 2006, 05:14:49 PM

If this gets put together AtLarge will not be the only sponsor. We are talking over $10,000 in possible prize money plus having a large are in the expo itself to run it.

If it goes it WILL be very cool. Speaking with the promoter the idea has morphed to having 3 weight classes with 4 lifters in each class. These will most likely be strength athletes.

After that competition I am thinking we could have a 405 for reps contest with bodybuilders competing as well? What about something like that?

Can we assume Brown's Honda will be a sponsor as well?

The Beef

bmacsys · « **Reply #34 on:** June 18, 2006, 06:06:06 PM »

Quote from: chris_mason on June 18, 2006, 09:30:54 AM

A promoter and I are considering having a bench press competition at the upcoming Olympia. This would be a bench for cash meet open to select powerlifters AND professional bodybuilders. As we wish to include bodybuilders there would be no bench shirts allowed.

This would occur at the expo which accompanies the Olympia and would be highly visible.

The contest would most likely be based upon 2-3 weight classes (although this is not set in stone) and would be for a 1 rep maximum with a pause. The possibility of someone like Brian Siders and Ryan Kennelly going head to head with a pro bodybuilder like Lee Priest (these are only examples and we have not spoken to Lee or the others) is what I want your opinion on. Do you like the idea?

Personally, I think it is a very cool idea and would love to see it as a fan.

Chris

Isn't there some kind of formula to calculate absolute strength taking into account your bodyweight? I forget what its called. Would this kind of handicapping system be used?

Sculpter · « **Reply #35 on:** June 18, 2006, 06:22:01 PM »

This imo would be interesting if it was IFBB pros off season that are not competing in the Mr O.Interesting to see how strong they actually are compared to their PL'ing counterparts.On another note might be interesting to have 1 just for the Mr O competitors themselves once again to see if their strength claims while prepping for the O are what they say in the mags.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #36 on:** June 18, 2006, 06:31:37 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on June 18, 2006, 05:09:18 PM

Oh, are you taking about actual O competitors competing in this the day before the O?? If so LMFAO.

Exactly... What an absolutely clueless butthead. I hear 240 spew stuff like this and it just amazes me that anyone would ever take him serious.

rocket · « **Reply #37 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:42:55 PM »

Questionably worth your time and money Chris, is it really going to produce a return on your investment?

As we've pretty much established that there is a lot of lying going on some may be turned off at the idea of actually coming through with the goods/putting their ego on the line.

Not to mention the fact that the pros that are likely to be competetive in this event would probably be ones with a lesser fanbase.

240 is Back · « **Reply #38 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:52:35 PM »

I think they might haev 100 ppl watching in person, but 5000 at home on the various boards, waiting for the results. And if the viewer has to visit the atlarge site and stare at protein special ads to see pics/videos (well until Matt C lifts it!) it could be a good return.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #39 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:09:54 PM »

Only "problem" with having Brian Siders in the competition, is that he'll win no matter what.

Four weight classes though, I suppose they will be 90kg, 110 kg, 125kg, and 125kg+?

I think you could get away with three weight classes: 100kg, 125kg and 125kg+.

Repetitions with four plates (405 lbs) would probably be where BB's are able to perform the best.

With a repetition contest, it will be easier for the crowd to understand what is going on - not too much judging involved.

The contest would also be finished in a shorter period of time, making it more attractive and competitive in a full schedule like the O weekend.

YIP
Zack

onlyme · « **Reply #40 on:** June 19, 2006, 03:37:30 AM »

Do a 1.5 times your bodyweight for reps. The reps won't be to high so time shouldn't be a problem. This way it will make it a more even playing field for everyone. Pause each rep. Full extension. You weigh 250, you'll bench 375 for reps. You weigh 180, you'll bench 270 for reps. It will make it more far for the little guy. or

So a total weight lifted. It is up to the competitor how much weight to put on the bar. All weights have to be submitted prior to the competition. Each competitor will bench whatever weight he choses and the total weight times number of full reps will be his total. So if a guy benches 225 for 40 reps his total is 9000. But if a guy benches 315 for 30 that is 9450. SO he would win. You can have a set "starting weight" so no one can pick a lesser weight and just sit there and do a ton of reps. I mean maybe start it at 255 is the lowest weight you can do. So guys have the stamina and some don't.

Just another idea from your "friendly neighborhood spiderman"

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #41 on:** June 19, 2006, 03:50:39 AM »

Onlyme, did you see the thread on Dave Henry's claims to do tricep extentions with 130lb bells. CAn you comment on my question to you.

The Beef.

RHINO290 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:32:32 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on June 18, 2006, 09:30:54 AM

A promoter and I are considering having a bench press competition at the upcoming Olympia. This would be a bench for cash meet open to select powerlifters AND professional bodybuilders. As we wish to include bodybuilders there would be no bench shirts allowed.

This would occur at the expo which accompanies the Olympia and would be highly visible.

The contest would most likely be based upon 2-3 weight classes (although this is not set in stone) and would be for a 1 rep maximum with a pause. The possibility of someone like Brian Siders and Ryan Kennelly going head to head with a pro bodybuilder like Lee Priest (these are only examples and we have not spoken to Lee or the others) is what I want your opinion on. Do you like the idea?

Personally, I think it is a very cool idea and would love to see it as a fan.

Chris

I can bet the Rhino will be there......

sarcasm · « **Reply #43 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:25:08 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on June 18, 2006, 10:09:54 PM

Only "problem" with having Brian Siders in the competition, is that he'll win no matter what.

Four weight classes though, I suppose they will be 90kg, 110 kg, 125kg, and 125kg+?

I think you could get away with three weight classes: 100kg, 125kg and 125kg+.

Repetitions with four plates (405 lbs) would probably be where BB's are able to perform the best.

With a repetition contest, it will be easier for the crowd to understand what is going on - not too much judging involved.

The contest would also be finished in a shorter period of time, making it more attractive and competitive in a full schedule like the O weekend.

YIP
Zack

reps with four plates? i'll gaurantee you with the exception of Coleman, Cutler and maybe Branch Warren most of those dudes would get a single or two, you have to remember that the majority do Smith machine bullshit.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #44 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:55:24 AM »

Quote from: RHINO290 on June 19, 2006, 06:32:32 AM

I can bet the Rhino will be there......

Uh oh, Jack is referring to himself in the third person...

Hedgehog · « **Reply #45 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:01:59 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 19, 2006, 07:25:08 AM

reps with four plates? i'll gaurantee you with the exception of Coleman, Cutler and maybe Branch Warren most of those dudes would get a single or two, you have to remember that the majority do Smith machine bullshit.

Thanks for bringing me back to reality, probably had been reading FLEX too much as of late...

Three plates then?

Sidenote for Chris Mason: I'd love to see Big James Henderson compete again. This kind of competition is something where he perhaps would show interest.

YIP
Zack

sarcasm · « **Reply #46 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:03:59 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on June 19, 2006, 08:01:59 AM

Thanks for bringing me back to reality, probably had been reading FLEX too much as of late...

Three plates then?

Sidenote for Chris Mason: I'd love to see Big James Henderson compete again. This kind of competition is something where he perhaps would show interest.

YIP
Zack

James was a giant, tremendously strong, in a dream i'd like to see him, Kazmaier, Jim Williams and one of todays guys like Mendelson compete against each other.