Request for GETITONY, aka John D.

[GetItOnNY]

Hang clean I am in no means trying to push my company on this thread, .If you read my last post it states, It doesnt matter if you buy my supplements or not, but if you do thank you.I didnt start this thread, Adonis did.I am just here to help thats all

[GetItOnNY]

iabadman2 .I would recomend trying to get in 7-8 meals in a day, and about 450  to 500 grams of protein per day.So that would be roughly 60 grams of protein per meal.Now depending on your metabolism if its fast or slow, will determine how many carbs you take in.If it fast shoot for 400 carbs per day, if its slower take in about 250 to 200.As far as supplements go I would use Kre-Alkalyn creatine, about 2 teaspoons a day, 30 minutes before training.Then gets some Glutamine and take 4 table spoons of that a day. one in the morning, i in the after noon, 1 after training and the last one before bed time.If you can get a good branch chain amino acid in powder form and take that 3 times a day with the L-Glutamine.You will also need a protein powder because there is no way you could eat 500 grams of protein per day. So you will have to alternate 1 meal from food 1 mealfrom protein powder.Try to find a protein powder that contains Milk Isolate, Whey Isolate, Whey concentrate, and egg protein combined.This way it will have a broad amino acid profile.Now if you want you could add, a prohormone in there aswell, like Halodrol from Gaspari, legal gear makes some good stuff, and my company makes Methyl Tren Depot, and Halo Test Depot just to name a few.Lastly get a good digestive enzyme, to help your body breakdown all the food you taje in.I recommend SUPER DIGESTIWAY, by a company called  SOLARAY.THats about all you will need.

[GetItOnNY]

If anyone thinks that I am just trying to get buissness by posting on here, besides Hangclean, I will not post here anymore.I want to make sure everyone knows my intensions are good, and I dont have alterior motives. I am a bodybuilder and it is my passion and I love to help other people achieve there goals.If you feel I am trying to get buissness by posting here, and I wil gladly not post here.......God Bless John

[GetItOnNY]

The next big low calorie sweetener will be Lohan Kuo, Lo Han Kuo is the fruit of Momordica grosvenorii, a plant cultivated in the mountains of southern China. Mogrosides, which are water extracted from the Lo Han fruit, offer a pleasant and sweet taste, without elevating blood sugar. Lo Han Kuo Mogrosides are up to 250x sweeter than sugar. This fruit, has like a honey taste to it.Once they find away to make it cost effective you will see it replace, Aspartame , Nutrasweet , Stevia , Sucralose and Sweet and Low.I have worked with it in some of my formulations, and found it will make anything low carb, low sugar taste awesome.The plant it comes from it a type of melon, that has very low sugar, but has a very unique taste.In the next 2-3 years it will be the safest, all natural sweetener ever made

[GetItOnNY]

Matt I have seen pics of you, and your look pretty good,but this guy wants to stay lean at 250lbs .By eating 7-8 times day ,his body will kick into over drive because it knows it is getting food every hours, so it speeds up the metabolism.Your right you can grow on 5-6 meals, but to get to 6% body fat you have to keep the protein high, and them meals frequent.YOU also have to remeber this guy is 250lbs, lean and I think your around 210 lbs if I am not mistaken.I have stepped on stage at 258lbs at 3.8% bodyfat so I know how to stay big and lean at the same time

[GetItOnNY]

I got a pm and they asked me how do I eat and how do I take my supplements, basically supplement timing, so here it goes.

7 AM 1 scoop of Full Throttle
       3 tablets of Natures Way Multi Vitamin
       3 grams of Vitamin Ester C

8AM 3 scoops of Lean Mass
      1 cup of oatmeal
      1 table spoon of natural peanut butter

10am  20 egg whites, or 9ioz of lean meat
         3/4 cup of rice or grits or baked potato

12:30 pm  3 scoops of Lean Mass Protein MRP
               1 cup of oatmeal
              1 table spoon of peanut Butter

2:30 pm    9 oz of lean meat
               3/4 cup of rice or baked potato
               salad with apple cider  vinegar and oil

4:30 pm        3 scoop of Lean Mass Protein
              3/4 cup of oatmeal
             1 table spoon of natural peanut butter

5:30 pm  2 scoops of Full Throttle
              2 Blade Hard core

6:00 PM Train

7:00 PM  10 Grams of L-Glutamine,
             10 Grams of BCAAS
             3 Grams of Vitamin C
             1 Scoop of Nitro 92
             2 scoops of Vitargo

7:30 PM  10 oz of lean meat
             baked potato  or yam
             2 cups of salad with apple cider vinegar and oil

10:00 PM 3 Scoops of Lean Mass XR Matrix
              1 cup of oatmeal

11:00 pm   10 grams of L-Glutamine, and BCAAS

After every meal I take a digestive enzyme.I like Super Digestaway , by Solaray
Now as for protein powder you can use ours or AST, Bio -Plex, some Met-RX  products ,Dorian Yates, or Beveryl International;

[GetItOnNY]

I just got off of the Phone with The Big Cheese Art Atwood, he is 2 weeks out from the Europa Pro.He said he plans on coming in at 265-268 lbs, instead of 275-280 like he usually does, so he will look alot more symterical.Art is a big ass man, if he nails his condition he could easily win that show.Art said I plan on doing the Mr Olympia, with that said I am hoping "CORN FED" WINS THE Europa

[GetItOnNY]

I got a PM  today asking me about the supplement CLA and how good is it.I think CLA is a good source of  unsaturated fat, but there are better .If you want CLA dont go to a supplement store, go to the grocery store, that right the gorcery store.The supplement CLA is Safflower Oil in a capsule.So for about $5.00 you can get alot of CLA, lol.The best way to take CLA or Safflower Oil is on a salad with apple Cider Vinegar, like vinegar and oil.This way you get good fats, and the applecider vinegar has enzymes to help break down the protein you take in for that meal.I personally like to use Safflower Oil on my low carb days, while dieting, for energy.Another good oil is Udos Choice, which is alot more expensive but has a broader band of EFA'S .

[kingNOLI]

Wow! I have been getting ripped off with CLA Products.

Thanks for the info....

I got a PM  today asking me about the supplement CLA and how good is it.I think CLA is a good source of  unsaturated fat, but there are better .If you want CLA dont go to a supplement store, go to the grocery store, that right the gorcery store.The supplement CLA is Safflower Oil in a capsule.So for about $5.00 you can get alot of CLA, lol.The best way to take CLA or Safflower Oil is on a salad with apple Cider Vinegar, like vinegar and oil.This way you get good fats, and the applecider vinegar has enzymes to help break down the protein you take in for that meal.I personally like to use Safflower Oil on my low carb days, while dieting, for energy.Another good oil is Udos Choice, which is alot more expensive but has a broader band of EFA'S .

[GetItOnNY]

I like to put my Kre-Alkalyn in my 40 oz of Old English and train Dominican style, lol

[hangclean]

I probably shouldn't have been as rude as I was with my post.  It's just that the past year I tried something.  I stopped taking protein supplements and only ate real food and lo and behold I made more strength gains than ever before.  Now the only supps I take are B complex, Kre-alkyln, ephedrine (I will never stop that one) caffeine and fish oil.  I just hate all the supp industry bullshit.

[GetItOnNY]

Hang clean I dont blame you, 90 % of the claims some of these companies are so exagerated that they belong in comic books.I am on this board to give people some clarity, like telling people not to buy CLA for $30.00 a bottle when they can buy Safflower oil for $5.00 and gets 10 times as much.Hangclean I started my company out of sheer frustration, and drive

[GetItOnNY]

Since GH 15 requested a pic of me off of hormones here you go.This was taken at the Arnold Classic by Ron Avidan at my company booth.In this pic I weigh around 268- 272 lbs,and at the time I was off of ALL  hormones almost 10 months.My cousin Eric is on the Right he weghs about 260 lbs in this pic, he is 30 years old, and has been off of all hormones 3 years.

[gh15]

Since GH 15 requested a pic of me off of hormones here you go.This was taken at the Arnold Classic by Ron Avidan at my company booth.In this pic I weigh around 268- 272 lbs,and at the time I was off of ALL  hormones almost 10 months.My cousin Eric is on the Right he weghs about 260 lbs in this pic, he is 30 years old, and has been off of all hormones 3 years.

i did not request a current picture of you i know what you look like. you are clean in this picture according to what you say and i take your word on that. how long,,i dont know,,,

from my experience in bodybuilding the chances of someone ANYONE to be 250 not 260 but 250 with less than 8% bf at height of 6 feet all of that after being clean for a over a year or a whole 3 years,,and i mean NO hormones or stimulants at all for all of that duration,,  is ZERO.

what i would approciaite is if you post here a picture of you from age 17 it will be easier to explain my points.

very good picture though!

[Disgusted]

i did not request a current picture of you i know what you look like. you are clean in this picture according to what you say and i take your word on that. how long,,i dont know,,,

from my experience in bodybuilding the chances of someone ANYONE to be 250 not 260 but 250 with less than 8% bf at height of 6 feet all of that after being clean for a over a year or a whole 3 years,,and i mean NO hormones or stimulants at all for all of that duration,,  is ZERO.

what i would approciaite is if you post here a picture of you from age 17 it will be easier to explain my points.

very good picture though!

I agree. Look at the post of Dorian weighing 250. Supposedly he is very lean. Dorian weighed 254 at his first Olympia win. So that means his is only 4 pounds lighter than that. Granted he could drop "some" water, but this makes no sense. I ran into Dorian right after he retired at the AC. I am not sure as to what year it was maybe 2000?, but I remember looking at him and not recognizing him. He dropped what looked to be around 70 to 80 pounds. He was a lot smaller than he is now. I am guessing maybe 25 pounds. Most guys  still use a little or just enough to stay decently big and claim to be off.

[GetItOnNY]

In that pic I was clean 10 months, and weighed 268-272 lbs, and my cousin weighed 260 lbs and he was clean 3 years.We are both Napledon Italian, so we have big heavy frames.When we were on the hormones we both weighed 290 lbs.In this pick the only things we used were prohormones, Kre-ALkalyn,protein powder, L-Glutamine, and BCCAS.You have to remeber I have been training 20 years.When I was 19 I only trainined a year and a half and I already weighed 208 lbs, and was bench pressing 325 lbs, naturally

[Bast000]

Kre-ALkalyn

 what in the world is this?

[hangclean]

what in the world is this?

Buffered creatine.

[Croatch]

In this pick the only things we used were prohormones, Kre-ALkalyn,protein powder, L-Glutamine, and BCCAS.

That's all?  Enough prohormones is almost like a small cycle.
Just breaking your balls.  You have some good posts and are not one to judge people, I wish I could be more like that.
I'm trying out that KrekAlkalyn, so watch out!

[iabadman2]

  Thanks for the reply John.......I am very greatful..........I was more looking  to see if  you take any supplements for health or longevity?[ things to control BP , Choresterol, keep heart healthy , arteries clean , postate in check , test levels in natural range,ect.....]   I totally agree with what you recomended me as far as eating........6- 8 meals .......high protein ........do you really think BCCA's , Glutimine make a difference? Isn't most of that destroyed in the gut ?  Do you think that really improve muscle gains or size ? What about Arginine?   And creatine has never really done much for me ?  [ is it worth another try?] I would like to stay away from prohormones, but maybe just use some natural  things to get my test up in a high normal range and keep it there ]  You and I agree on alot , and have similar bulids[ and Italian backgrounds as well], but I am not sure about creatine and aminos if your protein is high already..........I also think carbs need to be lower [ unless using vitargo or waxy mase]  especially for a natty .......I like alot of fat supps[ thanks for the great tip on the CLA ....I find that supp useful.....so I will try that ] .......and find them[EFA's] useful tools in both health  and appearence...........I think carbs should be played with ,but kept as low as possible otherwise .......I believe vits / mins are very important as well .........I think it is possible to be 250 at 8 % clean at around 6 feet ......[ I have never quite made it, but have been pretty darn close  and there are  some Black plus Samoan  guys that have some pretty insane genetics......many NFL Linebackers, running backs [ mainly fullbacks ] that have been around that number for sure.....it is rare for sure , but I believe it is possible..........I like alot of what gh15 sayes ,because he doesnt want to BS people and tells it like it is , but he is fooling himself into thinkng that all of the elite in sports are on gear, I can assure him that is just not the case [ I have been there.......so i have some knowledge]   Is pro bbing just pain chemical warfare.........maybe ......for most of the guys ......but take it from an ex supplier [ not proud to say that either]   there are plenty of pros that are not on huge ammounts of gear.........any that are clean ?  I think not ......not possible to be 4 % dry and full without hormones.........no way ........8 % is very lean .....abs , no visible fat , but next to 4 % that is fat ........the drug look can only happen with hormones ,anyone that claims different is simply not being truthful.........I have been around Football players, wrestlers , and fighters that were clean and were big and sheredded , but they still did not look like a guy on gear .........I don't get why people judge people that use gear . What someone wants to do with their own body is their own business ..........if someone to take risks with their health and possibily their freedom, that is up to them [same goes for drugs and alcohol IMO]......Everyone should just focus on making themselves the best they can be within  the framework of what they are comfortable with ..........I just want to be healthy , and  as good as I can, far as long as I can.I am hoping you might have the same goals and would be willing to share more insight in your plan on how to achieve that ............makes sense ?  

[hangclean]

 Thanks for the reply John.......I am very greatful..........I was more looking  to see if  you take any supplements for health or longevity?[ things to control BP , Choresterol, keep heart healthy , arteries clean , postate in check , test levels in natural range,ect.....]   I totally agree with what you recomended me as far as eating........6- 8 meals .......high protein ........do you really think BCCA's , Glutimine make a difference? Isn't most of that destroyed in the gut ?  Do you think that really improve muscle gains or size ? What about Arginine?   And creatine has never really done much for me ?  [ is it worth another try?] I would like to stay away from prohormones, but maybe just use some natural  things to get my test up in a high normal range and keep it there ]  You and I agree on alot , and have similar bulids[ and Italian backgrounds as well], but I am not sure about creatine and aminos if your protein is high already..........I also think carbs need to be lower [ unless using vitargo or waxy mase]  especially for a natty .......I like alot of fat supps[ thanks for the great tip on the CLA ....I find that supp useful.....so I will try that ] .......and find them[EFA's] useful tools in both health  and appearence...........I think carbs should be played with ,but kept as low as possible otherwise .......I believe vits / mins are very important as well .........I think it is possible to be 250 at 8 % clean at around 6 feet ......[ I have never quite made it, but have been pretty darn close  and there are  some Black plus Samoan  guys that have some pretty insane genetics......many NFL Linebackers, running backs [ mainly fullbacks ] that have been around that number for sure.....it is rare for sure , but I believe it is possible..........I like alot of what gh15 sayes ,because he doesnt want to BS people and tells it like it is , but he is fooling himself into thinkng that all of the elite in sports are on gear, I can assure him that is just not the case [ I have been there.......so i have some knowledge]   Is pro bbing just pain chemical warfare.........maybe ......for most of the guys ......but take it from an ex supplier [ not proud to say that either]   there are plenty of pros that are not on huge ammounts of gear.........any that are clean ?  I think not ......not possible to be 4 % dry and full without hormones.........no way ........8 % is very lean .....abs , no visible fat , but next to 4 % that is fat ........the drug look can only happen with hormones ,anyone that claims different is simply not being truthful.........I have been around Football players, wrestlers , and fighters that were clean and were big and sheredded , but they still did not look like a guy on gear .........I don't get why people judge people that use gear . What someone wants to do with their own body is their own business ..........if someone to take risks with their health and possibily their freedom, that is up to them [same goes for drugs and alcohol IMO]......Everyone should just focus on making themselves the best they can be within  the framework of what they are comfortable with ..........I just want to be healthy , and  as good as I can, far as long as I can.I am hoping you might have the same goals and would be willing to share more insight in your plan on how to achieve that ............makes sense ?  

calm down.

[TheGoldenPrince]

i did not request a current picture of you i know what you look like. you are clean in this picture according to what you say and i take your word on that. how long,,i dont know,,,

from my experience in bodybuilding the chances of someone ANYONE to be 250 not 260 but 250 with less than 8% bf at height of 6 feet all of that after being clean for a over a year or a whole 3 years,,and i mean NO hormones or stimulants at all for all of that duration,,  is ZERO.

what i would approciaite is if you post here a picture of you from age 17 it will be easier to explain my points.

very good picture though!

Markus, with all the hormones and dirty calories you've ingested, how long do you gauge your lifespan?

[sarcasm]

Since GH 15 requested a pic of me off of hormones here you go.This was taken at the Arnold Classic by Ron Avidan at my company booth.In this pic I weigh around 268- 272 lbs,and at the time I was off of ALL  hormones almost 10 months.My cousin Eric is on the Right he weghs about 260 lbs in this pic, he is 30 years old, and has been off of all hormones 3 years.

no offense dude but you don't look like anything special in that pic.

[GetItOnNY]

I know I dont look freaky or huge in that pic, because I was off all gear.How ever I think I look pretty good considering I held that much size being off of gear for 10 months.Most guys come off of gear and they look like a California Raison, lol .My goal is not to be big any more I am almost 39 years old, so I just want to have a nice physique

[GetItOnNY]

Croach as far as judging people the wiser you get in life you realise that its not worth the tme or energy to try to change or judge people.I either except them the way that they are, or just avoid them.Life it to short and to valuable to waste time on disempowering nonsense