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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #425 on: August 14, 2006, 08:40:50 PM »
Mr Moore , I am not a big fan of Optimum Nutrition, and I never have been.I dont care for the 5 lbs Whey protein because I tried it once about 3 years ago at a juice bar and gave me an upset stomach.I had bloating ,cramping and gas for several hours , so it wasnt pleasent.The only product I would even thing about using is Pro Complex by optimum Nutrition, is have 4 diffrent types of protein, and has a broader amino acid profile then tghere Whey.Plus it seems to be alot higher quailty so it probably wont have any lactose in it .

Yeah, but your buddy Art Atwood , besides being on their pay role in the past, used to rave about their products. Besides, I consume Optimum's WHEY quadplex on a daily basis and I haver never get those runs. :-\

And what about NATURE'S BEST ISO WHEY (not isopure), their whey protein blend?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #426 on: August 14, 2006, 10:49:30 PM »
Any bodybuilder on a supplement company payroll is going to rave  DUHH!!


Yeah, but your buddy Art Atwood , besides being on their pay role in the past, used to rave about their products. Besides, I consume Optimum's WHEY quadplex on a daily basis and I haver never get those runs. :-\

And what about NATURE'S BEST ISO WHEY (not isopure), their whey protein blend?

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« Reply #427 on: August 15, 2006, 08:08:14 PM »
I looked up Iso Whey and the only Iso Whey I saw was from iteractive nutrition .Can you tell me a website I can go to to find this socalled Iso Whey by NATURES BEST.I went to numerious webistes including Natures  Best, and bodybuilding .com and the Only Whey Isolate NATUES WAY makes is Isopure

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« Reply #428 on: August 15, 2006, 11:12:31 PM »
I got a PM today asking , John why would you make a time released protein.The answer is quite simply, so your body can absorb all of the protein more effectively .God did not make instantised chicken breasts or stake, why would you want to drink and instantised protein?Instantised means its designed to digest in 20- to 30 minutes, this is only  good right after training and if you take small dosages at a time, otherwise it gets wasted in digestion .By time releasing protein it mimicks food so the body will utlilise all of the protein , so this way you dont wind up urinating some of it out .Time relasing also means you can take in larger dosages of protein at a time because your absorption is up to 4 times better then just instantised protein
Another interesting facts about protein is I see people making pancakes and even muffins with protein, this is a no no. The reason for this is when protein is made they dont use any heat, the reason for this is heat denatures and destroys the delicate chains of amino acids.Once you damage an amino acid or break the chain of amino acids, it becomes a calorie, and not a source of protein.So never heat or cook with protein powder, otherwise it becomes useless, and you will lose the muscle building effects from the protein.It will become just an empty calorie, instead of a quality source of protein 

Another fact is never buy or store protein, L-Glutamine, or even Creatine  in a clear container thie reason for this is UV rays from the sun and light can over time take away the potency, and can damage the nutrients in the supplement your storing.Think about UV rays kill skin cells so they can denature supplements as well.Why do you think legit supplement companies use neutral white containers ? Because they want to  protect the supplement they manufactured from potential damage.

Proteins worst nightmare, the high torque blender.Believe it or not, blenders used at high speeds can damage amino acids, and break the chains of amino acids because the blade rips acrosss the chains and damages them .  So instead of being a source of protein and amino acids, it just becomes a calorie .Amino acids can be damaged and stressed by high torque and high speed blenders very easily.So if you use a blender just use the pulse button, a spoon or a shaker bottle, otherwise your going to  make that protein your ingesting useless. I would say 99% of all juice bars are guilty of this crime, by making smoothies with high torque blender, and blending it a very high speeds for a couple of minutes.Yes that smoothie will taste good , but when there done with it, the protein in that smoothie is usless protein wise.

The Acid Tablet is another useless source of protein or amino acids.The reason for this is when they make the tablets , they are pressed together, in a tablet press .This pressure, can also damage and stress, the delicate chains of amino acids  in each tablet.If you are going to buy amino acids, make sure they are in capsule form other wise, you will be buying an expensive useless source or protein.Amino acid tablets are just usally just whey or egg protein put inot a tablet or capsule, it would be more cost effective to just buy protein powder.Unless you just want BCAAS, then just buy it in powder form because it absorbs 4 times better then a capsule.

Lastly beware of hydorlised gelatin protein, collagen protein, that is sometimes found in liquid amino acids, and some protein powders.This useless form  of amino acids and protein  comes   from collagen, which is the remainders of the animal.Meaning the skin hoaves, bones , carlidge etc.They put all of this in a large bath  until it turns into a liquid, and there you have it collagen protein .Thsi protein is not only gross, it basically  useless when it comes to its biological value, for repairing tissue.This product is dirt cheap, so some companies will use it to make high profits.So beware, read the label, if it says hydrolised geltin protein ,hydrolised collagen , or beef gletain, say no thank you, and move on to the next product.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #429 on: August 16, 2006, 11:19:35 AM »
I got a PM today sking about adding milk to protein powder.I dont care what kind of milk it is, milk is garbage.When whey is made they go through several steps to filter out lactose puss and bacteria milk naturally has in it.When you add milk you put all the garbage back into the Whey.Even fat free Milk has back puss and bacteria in it.Milk does not do a body good, its a big scam.Did you know animals are smarter then humans?The reason why is animals know instictivly not to drink milk, they only drink it if you give it to them otherwise, they will not drink it.The body was made to have human breast milk until a person becomes 2 years of age, then the body creates enzyes to digest food.The reason why 85% of the population is lactose intolerant, is because the body does not have the enzymes to fully break down milk, because god didnt intend for us to drink cows milk after 2 years of age.Milk does not do a body good!!!!

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #430 on: August 16, 2006, 12:13:05 PM »
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The reason why 85% of the population is lactose intolerant, is because the body does not have the enzymes to fully break down milk, because god didnt intend for us to drink cows milk after 2 years of age.Milk does not do a body good!!!!
Does this mean I need to stay away from big breasted animals like this?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #431 on: August 16, 2006, 12:31:22 PM »
iabadman2  The reason why natural bodybuilders bash anabolic out of frustration usually.I know I have been there .You bust your ass in the gym and your lucky to gain 5 maybe 7 lbs of muscle a year naturally , then you see a guy at the gym  get on a cycle and gain 30 lbs in a month.Seeing that can frustrate anyone.Thats why there is friction between natural bodybuilders, and bodybuilders that use anabolics.The natural bodybuilders are the true athletes, and the more difficult road.I just wish some of them would just be proud that they did it naturally .Then you have the juicers who dont give naturals guys respect , or dont take them seriously .The anabolic guys should give the natural guys more respect , because it is a harder road.Then you have the so-called natural bodybuilders ,who like to go into natural shows, gassed out of there friggin minds, and get harder then Roniie Coleman and claim, there natural, lol .Those people should be stoned to death , they are the lowest form of life in my book .Cheating to win is not winning!!!The bottom line is natural bodybuilders need to be proud to be natural  the anabolic guys need to give naturals guys more respect, and the guys who enter natural shows on gear need to be beaten with a hammer, lol.
Now about L-Glutamine and BCAAS ,yes some get wasted in digestion but about 70-80 % gets absorbed depending on your PH level
As far as prohormnoes goes, if you can Superdrol, by Anabolics Xtreme or Halodrol by Gaspari, those are very strong prohormones.My company makes 2 strong prohormones Halo -Test Depot, and Methyl Tren Depot .These prohormnoes arent nearly as strong as gear, but they give you a nice kick, and raise your libido.
As far as creatine Goes, creatine never worked for me until I used Kre-Alkalyn, that stuff worked amazing.I have taken up to 30 grams a day of American Creatine with no luck in size or strength.I took 7 grams of Kre-ALKALYN and I gained like 7 lbs in 10 days, and I wasnt puffy, plus I added 1 more rep to most of my lifts.Kre-Alakyln is truly amazing, I am good friends with Jeff Golini , who created it.Like you I doubted Kre-Alkalyn, then I took it, and it removed all my doubts.Kre-Alaklyn is creatine that has a phof 12-14 so it never converts to creatine , so your body absorbs all of it.Give it a try, you will love it .


John could you please elaborate on this and if you have a low PH level vs a high PH level how this will effect glutamine/BCAA absorbtion?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #432 on: August 16, 2006, 08:08:47 PM »
Good question .The PH, parts hydrogen of a human being can range from 0 to 14.When it comes to PH  0 to 6.9 and under is considred acidic, and anthing from 7.0 to 14 is considered Alkaline  level.The body works at its best at when your PH is 6.5 in the morning and around 7.5 in the evening .The bodies PH varies from food and stress during the day.To answer your question to if the body was to acidic low PH the lower the number, the less your body would absorb the BCCAS and L-Glutamine.The foods that make the body acidic is meats, chicken fish, pasta, bread .Now if the body is to high Alkaline level it will not abosorb the BCAAS or L-Glutamine fully.The foods that make the body alkaline is things like fruit Vinegar, and baking soda.iF you want the body to absorb all the nutrients you take in the body should have a PH of around 7.1 to 7.5 which would be slightly at the alakaline level.The things that effect PH is stress, and lack of digestive enzymes to properly break down food.So to help your body have a good PH level you probably need a good digestive enzyme on that is complete.Make sure it has Protease to break down protein, Amylase to break down carbohydrates, and Lipase to help your body break down fats.By doing this your body will have a healthy PH , and it will digest not only L-Glutamine, and BCAAS  beeter, but ever supplement you take in

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #433 on: August 16, 2006, 08:34:42 PM »
Croatch this is nothing wrong with breast milk from a big chested woman, but there is nothing worse then a big chested woman who has a flat ass.A woman needs curves, another words, Thickness is my Sickness, right Kelly ???????

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #434 on: August 16, 2006, 08:34:56 PM »
God did not make instantised chicken breasts or stake, why would you want to drink and instantised protein?Instantised means its designed to digest in 20- to 30 minutes, this is only  good right after training and if you take small dosages at a time, otherwise it gets wasted in digestion .
Instantised, when referring to protein powder, means it will blend easily with a liquid.

Did you know the body regulates digestion naturally, according to volume? If you had a huge whey shake do you think all of it would be digested in 20 minutes? ARE you aware of the study on a whey/casein blend showing exactly THE SAME rate of digestion and uptake, compared to just whey??


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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #435 on: August 16, 2006, 08:44:48 PM »
Van, to answer about the question about drinking a huge a huge Whey protein shake digesting in 20 minutes.If it was about 50 grams of Whey protein Isolate, I would say depending on the persons metabolism, but most of it would be digested.But alot of it wouldnt be absorbed.Now as far as casien whey and digestion, it dpends on if it was Whey concentrate, or Whey Isolate?Was the caseinate instatised, ?an alpha Casein? a beta Casein, what casseinate did they use.Diffrent cassinates have diffrent release times.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #436 on: August 16, 2006, 10:51:33 PM »
ANother thing I want to point out was , the whey protein they used might have been Adglomerated, this is a process, that the protein is sprayed then dried with lecithin to make it have a slower release time .An Agglomerated Whey protein can time release up to 2 to 3 hours, depending on the persons metabolism .If you were to take a straight cassenate protein and a straight whey protein and did an Acid Hydrolisis ( aa tank made to mimiich human digestion)test the cassenate would have about  30- to 60 minute longer release time, depending on the persons metabolism, and ther PH levels.The reason for this is all Milk derived proteins, casseinate, Milk Isolate etc, etc, curdle in the stomach, so it slows down digestion of protein in the body.Whey is made from Sweet dairy Whey which comes from cheese, so it has a diffrent molecular structure.Trust me I was the first company to come out with a time released protein back in 1995 after 1000 of hours of research, and numerious Acid hydrolisis tests .I dont know what study or research you read, but I will tell you this from a chemists point of view.In the lab a chemist can get the out come he wants just by maipulating the conditions of what he is testing.If he wanted Whey to have the same release time as casienate, just use and instatized casenate, and an Agglomerated Whey, and in that  envirement they will have the same release time .Just like some companies will say a creatine product will make a person gain 10 lbs in a week.All they have to do is deplete the subject of carbohydrates for 4-5 days, then load up on carbohydrates while taking there creatine product, and wham there you have it the subject gained 10 lbs in a week.I have been in this industry 10 years, and any company can literally get any out come they want by simply manipulating the envirement and the conditions of a study.Just like cars, you know these auto manufactures are literally full of shit, in plain english with there miles per gallon ratings.There is no way these cars get 35 to 40 mpg in average conditions.But in the right conditions, lets say taking off really really slow and going down a hill and coasting for 20 miles the car will get 35-40 mpg.My point is if a chemist is payed enough he can create the right conditions to make the thing he is testing get the result he is after.Muscle Tech, does this all the time, and so do alot of companies,its just part of the buissness

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #437 on: August 17, 2006, 01:12:40 PM »
John, regarding the blending of the shake using a blender, how come the simple act of mixing the protein using a motor can alter the structural properties of the protein itself. Since no chemical compounds are reacting with the molecule, just a simple kinetical procedure is taking place to mix all of the protein, how come the ultimate result can be altered? Besides , could the process to turn the protein into the powder form of the final product itself affect the BCAA chains into its molecule properties? The grounding of the powder could alter the BCAA pattern, by your own line of thinking, i believe.

Since I mix my whey protein with egg protein in my afternoon shakes (NOT the post workout shake), and since egg protein needs a blender to mix properly in the water, otherwise it gets clumsy, how can mix both of them in the same shake, using a blender and not fucking up the BCAA's bio activity?? How many seconds could I blend it?

Thanx. I have never ever heard of such a thing, regarding the way you mix your protein could affect negatively the BCAA's content.
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #438 on: August 17, 2006, 01:17:49 PM »
ANother thing I want to point out was , the whey protein they used might have been Adglomerated, this is a process, that the protein is sprayed then dried with lecithin to make it have a slower release time .An Agglomerated Whey protein can time release up to 2 to 3 hours, depending on the persons metabolism .If you were to take a straight cassenate protein and a straight whey protein and did an Acid Hydrolisis ( aa tank made to mimiich human digestion)test the cassenate would have about  30- to 60 minute longer release time, depending on the persons metabolism, and ther PH levels.The reason for this is all Milk derived proteins, casseinate, Milk Isolate etc, etc, curdle in the stomach, so it slows down digestion of protein in the body.Whey is made from Sweet dairy Whey which comes from cheese, so it has a diffrent molecular structure.Trust me I was the first company to come out with a time released protein back in 1995 after 1000 of hours of research, and numerious Acid hydrolisis tests .I dont know what study or research you read, but I will tell you this from a chemists point of view.In the lab a chemist can get the out come he wants just by maipulating the conditions of what he is testing.If he wanted Whey to have the same release time as casienate, just use and instatized casenate, and an Agglomerated Whey, and in that  envirement they will have the same release time .Just like some companies will say a creatine product will make a person gain 10 lbs in a week.All they have to do is deplete the subject of carbohydrates for 4-5 days, then load up on carbohydrates while taking there creatine product, and wham there you have it the subject gained 10 lbs in a week.I have been in this industry 10 years, and any company can literally get any out come they want by simply manipulating the envirement and the conditions of a study.Just like cars, you know these auto manufactures are literally full of shit, in plain english with there miles per gallon ratings.There is no way these cars get 35 to 40 mpg in average conditions.But in the right conditions, lets say taking off really really slow and going down a hill and coasting for 20 miles the car will get 35-40 mpg.My point is if a chemist is payed enough he can create the right conditions to make the thing he is testing get the result he is after.Muscle Tech, does this all the time, and so do alot of companies,its just part of the buissness
Did you do blood draws on your so called time released protein and compare amino acid levels in the blood to a whey control for example? If not your hypothesis is pretty much worthless. The thing is is that when you put something that curdles in the stomach  (casein) in the mix it slows down the absorption of the WHOLE formula. The whey portion will not absorb as fast as the whey in a whey only formula.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #439 on: August 17, 2006, 02:07:36 PM »
First of all acid hydrolisis is a scientific test that mimicks human digestion period!!!It is a tank that shows, and measures human digestion, there is no guess work or hypothesis , its just a fact.Whey digest faster then casenate, but caseinate digests slower, thus making is a sustained release protein .Van I have read your past posts, and your very knowledgeable, but on this particular subject trust me what I stated is actually facts.I have atleast a couple of thousand hours, formulating, studying, and research protein and iits digestion in the huamn body

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #440 on: August 17, 2006, 04:08:52 PM »
First of all acid hydrolisis is a scientific test that mimicks human digestion period!!!It is a tank that shows, and measures human digestion, there is no guess work or hypothesis , its just a fact.Whey digest faster then casenate, but caseinate digests slower, thus making is a sustained release protein .Van I have read your past posts, and your very knowledgeable, but on this particular subject trust me what I stated is actually facts.I have atleast a couple of thousand hours, formulating, studying, and research protein and iits digestion in the huamn body
Did you do the acid hydrolysis test on the complete formula or the different proteins separately? I'm no expert on this but from what I've read you can't test the absorption of the proteins separately and then assume they will absorb the same when used as a mixed formula. Am I wrong?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #441 on: August 17, 2006, 05:46:38 PM »
iabadman2  The reason why natural bodybuilders bash anabolic out of frustration usually.I know I have been there .You bust your ass in the gym and your lucky to gain 5 maybe 7 lbs of muscle a year naturally , then you see a guy at the gym  get on a cycle and gain 30 lbs in a month.Seeing that can frustrate anyone.Thats why there is friction between natural bodybuilders, and bodybuilders that use anabolics.The natural bodybuilders are the true athletes, and the more difficult road.I just wish some of them would just be proud that they did it naturally .Then you have the juicers who dont give naturals guys respect , or dont take them seriously .The anabolic guys should give the natural guys more respect , because it is a harder road.Then you have the so-called natural bodybuilders ,who like to go into natural shows, gassed out of there friggin minds, and get harder then Roniie Coleman and claim, there natural, lol .Those people should be stoned to death , they are the lowest form of life in my book .Cheating to win is not winning!!!The bottom line is natural bodybuilders need to be proud to be natural  the anabolic guys need to give naturals guys more respect, and the guys who enter natural shows on gear need to be beaten with a hammer, lol.
Now about L-Glutamine and BCAAS ,yes some get wasted in digestion but about 70-80 % gets absorbed depending on your PH level
As far as prohormnoes goes, if you can Superdrol, by Anabolics Xtreme or Halodrol by Gaspari, those are very strong prohormones.My company makes 2 strong prohormones Halo -Test Depot, and Methyl Tren Depot .These prohormnoes arent nearly as strong as gear, but they give you a nice kick, and raise your libido.
As far as creatine Goes, creatine never worked for me until I used Kre-Alkalyn, that stuff worked amazing.I have taken up to 30 grams a day of American Creatine with no luck in size or strength.I took 7 grams of Kre-ALKALYN and I gained like 7 lbs in 10 days, and I wasnt puffy, plus I added 1 more rep to most of my lifts.Kre-Alakyln is truly amazing, I am good friends with Jeff Golini , who created it.Like you I doubted Kre-Alkalyn, then I took it, and it removed all my doubts.Kre-Alaklyn is creatine that has a phof 12-14 so it never converts to creatine , so your body absorbs all of it.Give it a try, you will love it .


Horseshit...any npc or ifbb pro trains just as hard and diets just hard as any natural. Shit if anything its harder being on then off. You have to deal with cramps, bloat, hypertension etc etc. Its also easier to get dry an shredded being natural. Any bodybuilder from ANY federation should get the same respect. Not our fault someone decided to go the slow route. If your clean in the Npc...well your an idiot.  Any competitive BB'er should get respect.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #442 on: August 17, 2006, 05:55:00 PM »
With Acid Hydrolosis you can test proteins one at a time or lets say a combination of Whey Isolate, Egg, and then milk Isolate.iF if you combined these protein the first protein that would disolve or digest would be they Whey Isolate and slowly it would start abdorbing or digesting the Egg protein.Lastly because the the Milk Isolate, because it would curdle in absorbtion so it would digest alot slower.Yes the protein will over alp each other in digestion, but by blending proteins, it creates a slower release time for all of them .If you just drink Milk Isolate in goes into the body and the body immediatly tries to break it down, but if you mix it with Whey Isolate it will break down the WHEY Isolate first.So to answer your question by blending proteins, all the proteins will have a longer time release period then if they were taken seperatly.The problem with alot of companies is the just blend proteins and say, whamo its now times released .The most important thing is when making a time released product its to make sure they all arent instatized other wise it wont time release, they will all digest at the same time.The Whey , Egg and Milk Isolate I mentioned earlier where not instatized.To truly have a protein time release the best thing to mix Agglomertated, and instantised together.Instantised protein gets absorbed immedialty, Agglomerated protein is a larger particle and takes longer to digest.Think of it like this when you eat a chicken breast, and when it goes into your stomach it is diffrent sizes, smaller pieces and larger pieces, depending on how well it was chewed.Of course the smaller pieces ( Whey Isolate ) would go into digestion immediatly, then the larger pieces ( Aggermated Whey Isolate) would start to be broken down after the smaler pieces were abosorbed.So by blending lets say  Instantised Whey Isolate, Agglomerated Whey Isolate,  Instantised Egg protein, Agglomerated Egg protein, and Alpha caseinate, and Aglomerated Milk Isolate.This blend would give you the best of both world, fast and slow acting proteins, and have a very braod band of Amino Acids.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #443 on: August 18, 2006, 02:16:38 AM »

John I want to thank you for this valuable information , most people have know idea about the different proteins. Thats why when I was turn on to Extremelabs like most people there are just thinking another supplement company . But you guys are not just another company when I met your cousin I was so impressed by his knowledge and also you guys are competitors and National title holders .

Well I just wanted to say thanks for the awesome supplements and if my opinion counts I never tasted protein that tasted so good and trust me I have tryed them all. also I am very sensitive and being lactose free was a plus .

John I wish I met you 10 years ago , In wouldnt of waisted money on all those worthless products.

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With Acid Hydrolosis you can test proteins one at a time or lets say a combination of Whey Isolate, Egg, and then milk Isolate.iF if you combined these protein the first protein that would disolve or digest would be they Whey Isolate and slowly it would start abdorbing or digesting the Egg protein.Lastly because the the Milk Isolate, because it would curdle in absorbtion so it would digest alot slower.Yes the protein will over alp each other in digestion, but by blending proteins, it creates a slower release time for all of them .If you just drink Milk Isolate in goes into the body and the body immediatly tries to break it down, but if you mix it with Whey Isolate it will break down the WHEY Isolate first.So to answer your question by blending proteins, all the proteins will have a longer time release period then if they were taken seperatly.The problem with alot of companies is the just blend proteins and say, whamo its now times released .The most important thing is when making a time released product its to make sure they all arent instatized other wise it wont time release, they will all digest at the same time.The Whey , Egg and Milk Isolate I mentioned earlier where not instatized.To truly have a protein time release the best thing to mix Agglomertated, and instantised together.Instantised protein gets absorbed immedialty, Agglomerated protein is a larger particle and takes longer to digest.Think of it like this when you eat a chicken breast, and when it goes into your stomach it is diffrent sizes, smaller pieces and larger pieces, depending on how well it was chewed.Of course the smaller pieces ( Whey Isolate ) would go into digestion immediatly, then the larger pieces ( Aggermated Whey Isolate) would start to be broken down after the smaler pieces were abosorbed.So by blending lets say  Instantised Whey Isolate, Agglomerated Whey Isolate,  Instantised Egg protein, Agglomerated Egg protein, and Alpha caseinate, and Aglomerated Milk Isolate.This blend would give you the best of both world, fast and slow acting proteins, and have a very braod band of Amino Acids.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #444 on: August 18, 2006, 03:07:22 AM »
why arent all those protein posts ect moved to the supplement site?????Strange place to have this talk going on don't ya think???

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #445 on: August 18, 2006, 08:59:24 AM »
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Its also easier to get dry an shredded being natural. Any bodybuilder from ANY federation should get the same respect. Not our fault someone decided to go the slow route. If your clean in the Npc...well your an idiot.  Any competitive BB'er should get respect.
Easier to get shredded naturally?  That has to be the dumbest comment I ever read on getbig.  I agree that competing clean in the NPC is pointless.  Disagree on any competitive bodybuilder should get respect.  Just cause you compete, doesn't mean squat, especially when the basis of most competitors is the drug regiment.  How hard would the majority of these guys train without it?  I see it all the time, guys who "compete" then lay off the sauce and look like a fucking plumber.
I don't care if a guy is 170lbs or 270lbs, juiced or not, it's the effort someone puts into their diet/training that means something to me.
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #446 on: August 18, 2006, 11:42:17 AM »
A lot of bodybuiders cant train at all with out sauce and most of the amature and top pro's dont trai hard at all!!! I have witnesed plenty who  train like girls.


Easier to get shredded naturally?  That has to be the dumbest comment I ever read on getbig.  I agree that competing clean in the NPC is pointless.  Disagree on any competitive bodybuilder should get respect.  Just cause you compete, doesn't mean squat, especially when the basis of most competitors is the drug regiment.  How hard would the majority of these guys train without it?  I see it all the time, guys who "compete" then lay off the sauce and look like a fucking plumber.
I don't care if a guy is 170lbs or 270lbs, juiced or not, it's the effort someone puts into their diet/training that means something to me.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #447 on: August 18, 2006, 12:37:35 PM »
John, regarding the blending of the shake using a blender, how come the simple act of mixing the protein using a motor can alter the structural properties of the protein itself. Since no chemical compounds are reacting with the molecule, just a simple kinetical procedure is taking place to mix all of the protein, how come the ultimate result can be altered? Besides , could the process to turn the protein into the powder form of the final product itself affect the BCAA chains into its molecule properties? The grounding of the powder could alter the BCAA pattern, by your own line of thinking, i believe.

Since I mix my whey protein with egg protein in my afternoon shakes (NOT the post workout shake), and since egg protein needs a blender to mix properly in the water, otherwise it gets clumsy, how can mix both of them in the same shake, using a blender and not fucking up the BCAA's bio activity?? How many seconds could I blend it?

Thanx. I have never ever heard of such a thing, regarding the way you mix your protein could affect negatively the BCAA's content.


John, could you please elaborate a little more on this trouble with using a blender to mix the whey protein? I mix the whey with egg protein powder, and the egg needs to be shaken with the blender , otherwise it won't mingle so well with the whey, cause the egg powder i use tends to cloth a little bit.  Thanx.
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #448 on: August 18, 2006, 02:09:52 PM »
Good question .The PH, parts hydrogen of a human being can range from 0 to 14.When it comes to PH  0 to 6.9 and under is considred acidic, and anthing from 7.0 to 14 is considered Alkaline  level.The body works at its best at when your PH is 6.5 in the morning and around 7.5 in the evening .The bodies PH varies from food and stress during the day.To answer your question to if the body was to acidic low PH the lower the number, the less your body would absorb the BCCAS and L-Glutamine.The foods that make the body acidic is meats, chicken fish, pasta, bread .Now if the body is to high Alkaline level it will not abosorb the BCAAS or L-Glutamine fully.The foods that make the body alkaline is things like fruit Vinegar, and baking soda.iF you want the body to absorb all the nutrients you take in the body should have a PH of around 7.1 to 7.5 which would be slightly at the alakaline level.The things that effect PH is stress, and lack of digestive enzymes to properly break down food.So to help your body have a good PH level you probably need a good digestive enzyme on that is complete.Make sure it has Protease to break down protein, Amylase to break down carbohydrates, and Lipase to help your body break down fats.By doing this your body will have a healthy PH , and it will digest not only L-Glutamine, and BCAAS  beeter, but ever supplement you take in


John,
   I like what you're doing here, but the pH of the body is a range of 7.36 - 7.44, and acidosis occurs when your blood pH level falls below 7.30.  You can literally die if your blood pH varies by more that 0.1. 
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #449 on: August 18, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »

John,
   I like what you're doing here, but the pH of the body is a range of 7.36 - 7.44, and acidosis occurs when your blood pH level falls below 7.30.  You can literally die if your blood pH varies by more that 0.1. 
Maybe he is talking about urine, not blood PH levels? I seem to recall there being a difference how it's measured but I could be wrong.