ok guys what do you thank about this cycle

[KAM]

 week 1-12 sus 250 500mg
 week 1-12 deca  200mg
 week 13-15 nolva 20mg ed

 stats
200lb, 10% bf, 6'  im a newbi  only my 2nd cycle

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test

[sydewide]

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

Why only 4 weeks?  I mean i know it takes test a while to kick in but can you do dbol for longer?

[Luv2Hurt]

Deca cycles need to be longer.  At end the sust will fade away but that suppressive deca will still be there.  Impotance and low libido are the results of that.

I dont like sust period, way too hard to manage, that stuff is all over the place with all those esters.  That deca dose is too low to do much good also, if your gonna shut yourself down you may as well do it right.  Also run the nolva at least 4 weeks at the end.

1-18 test prop 150mgs EOD
1-14 deca 400mg EW

Nice and simple, eat, train hard, sleep and grow

[sportingsteroids]

it look good to me

[udeluz]

I definitely see a change in this board (thats a good thing) before the first reply to a post like this would have been "what are your stats"

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

Why only 4 weeks?  I mean i know it takes test a while to kick in but can you do dbol for longer?

some people run it 6 weeks tops but that shit is hard on your liver....

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Deca cycles need to be longer.  At end the sust will fade away but that suppressive deca will still be there.  Impotance and low libido are the results of that.

I dont like sust period, way too hard to manage, that stuff is all over the place with all those esters.  That deca dose is too low to do much good also, if your gonna shut yourself down you may as well do it right.  Also run the nolva at least 4 weeks at the end.

1-18 test prop 150mgs EOD
1-14 deca 400mg EW

Nice and simple, eat, train hard, sleep and grow

Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO

[udeluz]

I ran it 6 weeks,

My next cycle will be only 4 weeks of A-Bombs
along with Test and EQ, maybe some Tren in there too

[KAM]

i have to stay away from the d-bol it makes my hair fall out.  d-bol was my first cycle.

[sportingsteroids]

so what are your experiences for  first time dbol?

[hendog]

I ran it 6 weeks,

My next cycle will be only 4 weeks of A-Bombs
along with Test and EQ, maybe some Tren in there too

Interesting combo, have you ever ran this cycle before and if so what were your gains like?

[udeluz]

Im only talking 4 weeks on the A=Bombs

Never ran the tren

[hendog]

Im only talking 4 weeks on the A=Bombs

Never ran the tren

I was always curious as to what Test E, EQ, Abombs and Tren would provide in quality gains. Have you ever done just the Eq, Test E and abombs together?

[KAM]

first time with d-bol was good i run it for 7 weeks. my gains were good and i keep maybe 75% of what i gained.  but after that i noticed my hair starting to thin so ive been kinda skeptical about doing another cycle but i didnt know anything about roids at the time so i didnt do any pct.   thats why if i do another cycle i want to start small to see what kinda side effect i will have.

[sydewide]

Does liquid dbol (taken orally) have the same toxicity as pills?  Just asking becasue i have the liquid stuff and thats why i was asking about the time length.

[sportingsteroids]

liquid dbol will be more effective if u use it like injectable

[sydewide]

you mean like actually inject the same dosage instead of orally?

[liftnbig]

up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test

agreed

take the test on out to 14 weeks

[Luv2Hurt]

I definitely see a change in this board (thats a good thing) before the first reply to a post like this would have been "what are your stats"

If you read the first post he listed his stats.  This poster was educated and asked the question in the proper way.  Thats why he got replys.  There is nothing wrong with asking for someone's stats, it would be wrong not to.

[Luv2Hurt]

Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO

Well than use the sust.  Prop only needs to be injected EOD.  Will agree though it is a lot of pinning even at that.  But come on painful?? I guess some people just have a lower threshold for pain.  Me I Luv2......

[whitewidow]

up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test

BUMP.

[sportingsteroids]

you mean like actually inject the same dosage instead of orally?

yeah

[dirtyman_209]

Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO

prop isnt painful at all after you get past the first week

[sportingsteroids]

but it is more painfull than test  e