Chick it's too warm to be christmas

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Why DO you think they are?

I believe the PDI will offer a terrific source of income to many IFBB guys who don't make a red cent right now.  And, once Lee Priest depants them in court, the mid- and top- level guys will be able to make a very good living from both.  Which could lead to better prize money spreads!  See how this works out?

[rocket]

Hint:  Requiring a court case judgement to succeed in business is not a good way to get things rolling

[Chick]

I believe the PDI will offer a terrific source of income to many IFBB guys who don't make a red cent right now.  And, once Lee Priest depants them in court, the mid- and top- level guys will be able to make a very good living from both.  Which could lead to better prize money spreads!  See how this works out?

If the top guys are allowed to cross over, just how would the guy's not making a red cent make any money over there?

Basically, the guys making the money now, would make more money, and the guys noy making money would just be spending more money and STILL not making any...

Lee has no chance in court.

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If the top guys are allowed to cross over, just how would the guy's not making a red cent make any money over there?

Basically, the guys making the money now, would make more money, and the guys noy making money would just be spending more money and STILL not making any...

Lee has no chance in court.

What?  Not even with the full unbridled power of the Lee Priest Foundation at his side?

[240 is Back]

If the top guys are allowed to cross over, just how would the guy's not making a red cent make any money over there?

Basically, the guys making the money now, would make more money, and the guys noy making money would just be spending more money and STILL not making any...

Did you miss what I wrote?

Once guys were allowed to compete in both, prize monies could be spread better.  First might only be 100k for the O, but 18th would be 10k.  Know what I mean?  So Ronnie wouldn't do *quite* as well, but 8 other guyss would do worlds better.  Just chip some off the top 5 and give it to the bottom 20 lol...

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Lee has no chance in court.

Lee doesn't have to win.  he just has to show he will embarass the IFBB so bad that they crack.

Imagine a company where every employee is either a drug user (athletes), drug dealer (trainers), or creative accountant (mgmt).

You think this company wants to go to court for ANYTHING? lol...

[Woten]

Did you miss what I wrote?

Once guys were allowed to compete in both, prize monies could be spread better.  First might only be 100k for the O, but 18th would be 10k.  Know what I mean?  So Ronnie wouldn't do *quite* as well, but 8 other guyss would do worlds better.  Just chip some off the top 5 and give it to the bottom 20 lol...

Man, fuck that, what is this? bodybuilding or a fucking telethon?

I want to see the 1st place winner get the lot, bollocks to the rest, I want to see tears from 2nd place down as they realise the previous years GH has gone to tits, and that the next 12 months will be spent down the 'hot karl' mine

THAT, is how a show should be structured

Seriosuly, has there ever been more piss and win than in this thread?

Utter bollocks

[kmhphoto]

I believe the PDI will offer a terrific source of income to many IFBB guys who don't make a red cent right now.  And, once Lee Priest depants them in court, the mid- and top- level guys will be able to make a very good living from both.  Which could lead to better prize money spreads!  See how this works out?

Without sponsors there will be zero money and even the most ardent supporter of the PDI can see that they are hardly falling over themselves to throw some money in the pot.
The PDI failed before and it will fail again. It's founder had zero supprt in 2004 and sub zero now.

[McFarland]

What?  Not even with the full unbridled power of the Lee Priest Foundation at his side?

ha ha ha

[McFarland]

Man, fuck that, what is this? bodybuilding or a fucking telethon?

I want to see the 1st place winner get the lot, bollocks to the rest, I want to see tears from 2nd place down as they realise the previous years GH has gone to tits, and that the next 12 months will be spent down the 'hot karl' mine

THAT, is how a show should be structured

Seriosuly, has there ever been more piss and win than in this thread?

Utter bollocks

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA....Holy shit I'm cryin' over here...   

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Without sponsors there will be zero money and even the most ardent supporter of the PDI can see that they are hardly falling over themselves to throw some money in the pot.
The PDI failed before and it will fail again. It's founder had zero supprt in 2004 and sub zero now.

I just talked to Nobody.

He believes you know what you're talking about.

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Without sponsors there will be zero money and even the most ardent supporter of the PDI can see that they are hardly falling over themselves to throw some money in the pot.
The PDI failed before and it will fail again. It's founder had zero supprt in 2004 and sub zero now.

Wow, so you paint the picture as darker now, than before.

Even though now he has lee priest and a slew of euro champs.
Even though we're all talking about it now.
Even though lots of tickets have been sold.

Despite those facts, you placed more value on the 2004 rendition than the 2006 versions.

Hey, do you pick stocks? 

[kmhphoto]

Wow, so you paint the picture as darker now, than before.

Even though now he has lee priest and a slew of euro champs.
Even though we're all talking about it now.
Even though lots of tickets have been sold.

Despite those facts, you placed more value on the 2004 rendition than the 2006 versions.

Hey, do you pick stocks? 

In 2004 he thought he had the complete line-up of IFBB pros, all the sponsors and AMI.
Now he has the athletes you mentioned, hardly any sponsors and no magazine support.
The 2004 PDI NOC was a sell out. The PDI vanished a few weeks later.
I placed no value on the 2004 rendition, just as nobody else did, that's why it failed.

For a long term investment, buy Apple, sell Dell.

[240 is Back]

For a long term incestment, buy Apple, sell Dell.

And for my short term incest needs?

[kmhphoto]

And for my short term incest needs?

Sleep with your sister?

Again?

 

[onlyme]

In 2004 he thought he had the complete line-up of IFBB pros, all the sponsors and AMI.
Now he has the athletes you mentioned, hardly any sponsors and no magazine support.
The 2004 PDI NOC was a sell out. The PDI vanished a few weeks later.
I placed no value on the 2004 rendition, just as nobody else did, that's why it failed.

For a long term investment, buy Apple, sell Dell.

Kevin, in your post two up or so the PDI had no sponsors.  So in the time it took you to write this post they now have hardly any.  Thats not bad for just a few minutes.  And no magazine support.  DOn't tell me AMI and the IFBB also tell you what magazines to read.  Try Muscle Mag and Muscle Media.  The 2004 NOC was a sellout and so is the 2006 NOC.  Which means some people still believe in it.  In addition, like I said before please go to the show and look in the audience.  I am pretty sure you will see some interesting people that I know you know.  And these people sure do believe in the PDI ALLOT.  Cause next the IFBB will be missing some.................... ............

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I got a news flash for  some of you. Guys don't compete for the money, they compete for the recognition. I know tons of amateurs who spend thousands on shows for a $15 trophy and pros who spend triple on what they win from placing in the top 5. The O and the AC excluded. All these guys want is to be Mr. Whatever. Bodybuilding is a niche sport (sorry Intensone  ) I was watching Pumping Iron a few weeks ago and I was surpised to see how many people came to see Arnold guest posing. Hell, there were more guys at that than most pro shows. Bodybuilding will NEVER!!! be mainstream no matter how hard we try. A lot of you think that if we brought back the look of say Bob Paris or Frank Zane then more people were be interested. Tell you what, take a pic of Bob Paris to your neighbors house and ask them what they think of him. Guarenteed they will say he looks gross and is way too big. Just because we are used to seeing guys like Ronnie doesn't mean the average person will not find the old guys grossly over developed.

Think that bodybuilding has progessed in the last 30 years?? Ask anyone on the street what  the Mr Universe contest is or the Mr. America and they will know. Now ask them what the Mr Olympia is. Not one will have a freakin clue. To this day when Arnold is on TV they still refer to him as Mr Universe. I'll bet Joe Weider is pissed about that.  

Other than the Olympia and the AC the majority of the people at the shows are FRIENDS AND FAMILY!!!!! The average fan can not afford to go to these shows. People have to work and raise a family so next time anyone here starts bitching about no one supporting the shows get back to reality. Not everyone can use their yearly vacation time and money to go see a pro show. Plane tickets, food, lodging and all the other costs add up to thousands.

With all this said I still think that PDI can make a good showing. There are a lot of bodybuilders out there. Who really cares who the heck they are. Like I said before. Most of the people in the audience are friends and family. If the NOC sells out then it makes no difference who sat in the seats. One thing is for sure, the IFBB does care and they are doing their best to squash PDI before it gets off the ground.

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Kevin, in your post two up or so the PDI had no sponsors.  So in the time it took you to write this post they now have hardly any.  Thats not bad for just a few minutes.  And no magazine support.  DOn't tell me AMI and the IFBB also tell you what magazines to read.  Try Muscle Mag and Muscle Media.  The 2004 NOC was a sellout and so is the 2006 NOC.  Which means some people still believe in it.  In addition, like I said before please go to the show and look in the audience.  I am pretty sure you will see some interesting people that I know you know.  And these people sure do believe in the PDI ALLOT.  Cause next the IFBB will be missing some.................... ............

Keith,
In the first post I said they are "hardly falling over themselves" and in the second I said "hardly any sponsors". I'm aware that he has some - like yourself - but the fact remains that the PDI is failing to find major sponsorship because those in the industry know that it's doomed.
No wonder the sponsors aren't interested if Muscle Mag and Muscle Media are the only magazines covering the single PDI show this year.
With so many tickets still available for the 2006 show, you're a little premature to call it a sell out? With so many of their shows being cancelled we may soon be discussing why this one went the same way.

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One thing is for sure, the IFBB does care and they are doing their best to squash PDI before it gets off the ground.

The IFBB doesn't need to do anything to squash the PDI. Only a credible organisation could offer any competition and that's something that it lacks within the industry. It could be something to do with whose in charge.

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Bigdumbell...your turn to condense, I can't read this many pages.

[Disgusted]

The IFBB doesn't need to do anything to squash the PDI. Only a credible organisation could offer any competition and that's something that it lacks within the industry. It could be something to do with whose in charge.

Really? look bro I talk to alot of people in the industry and I am privy to some info that most will never hear, people love to talk.  I know that a certain someone called many of the sponsers and told them in not so many words that it would not be benificial for them to sponser any of Wayne's shows. If "they" are not worried then why call? Look at both Vinces'. Vinny G is out. Maybe he will finally get his pro card now, maybe not. Vince Taylor just happens to be guest posing in the same day as the NOC. I can tell you one thing. There is no way that the IFBB and the NPC are not going to fuck both of these guys in the long run. You DO NOT cross these guys!!!! THey always remember who was loyal to them. Get it?

[sgt. d]

Im sick of hearing about all this PDI talk

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Im sick of hearing about all this PDI talk

why?

bodybuilders are gonna make more money. 

[sgt. d]

why?

bodybuilders are gonna make more money. 

ahahaaahaahahahahahahaha hhahahahhahahahahahhahah ahahahahahahaha

rob you a funny dude. more money? yeah okay 

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ahahaaahaahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

rob you a funny dude. more money? yeah okay 

Wayne has 30,000 that he is giving away at the NOC, on a weekend where there is no IFBB show.

If the show happens, and he does give away that money, will you admit on Sept 16 that yes, bodybuilders made more money as a result of the PDI?