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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2006, 01:04:25 PM »
My explanation above is enough to cleat any doubts. Stop being a jew a pain in the ass.
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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2006, 01:09:27 PM »
My explanation above is enough to cleat any doubts. Stop being a jew a pain in the ass.

Nice anti-semite reply! Typical of an islamist.

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« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2006, 10:20:52 PM »
Islamist is what is known as a islamic terrorist. So you're pro islamic terrorism?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=90538.0

haider stated that he don't know exactly what an Islamist is.


But you're a little off, or rather, way off.

An Islamist is someone who believes that Islam should also be used as a political system.

Quite extremist. But not terrorist.

I doubt haider is in support of either Islamism (Islam as a political theory) or terrorism in the name of Islam.

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« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2006, 01:04:03 AM »
haider stated that he don't know exactly what an Islamist is.


But you're a little off, or rather, way off.

An Islamist is someone who believes that Islam should also be used as a political system.

Quite extremist. But not terrorist.

I doubt haider is in support of either Islamism (Islam as a political theory) or terrorism in the name of Islam.

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Yeah... I think you'd be wrong, he is an islamist.

When are you going to stop seeing "the best" in these people? After you're personally effected by these infidels?
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« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2006, 01:42:37 AM »
Yeah... I think you'd be wrong, he is an islamist.

When are you going to stop seeing "the best" in these people? After you're personally effected by these infidels?

Calling someone an infidel, is what religious zealots like Ayatollah Khamenei do.

Not what we in the secular Western Civilization should do.

haider claims he doesn't want USA to become a Caliphate. Looks to me like that is a sign that he is NOT an Islamist then.

Also, you defined Islamist as islamic terrorist, which is wrong. It means someone who believes in the use of Islam as a political system.

Islamist is what is known as a islamic terrorist. So you're pro islamic terrorism?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=90538.0

You're labeling haider. It's one thing if he would make statements about his beliefs. Then it's easy to challenge them.

But you're attributing opinions and values to him, and that ain't fair.

And we are enlightened. We have to hold ourselves to the highest standards.

In the end, cults and hoaxes will hopefully be abandoned.

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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2006, 06:02:36 AM »
WOW, you spend all your time looking that shit up? Fucking loser.

The post Hedge made prior to your's was excellent and sums things up pretty well.

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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2006, 06:20:57 AM »
WOW, you spend all your time looking that shit up? Fucking loser.

The post Hedge made prior to your's was excellent and sums things up pretty well.

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No, the scary thing is a simple search on google: sweden muslim, brings them up. 5 sec job.
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« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2006, 06:26:16 AM »
Now you're resorting to child molester and gay jokes. Lame.

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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2006, 06:28:44 AM »
Now you're resorting to child molester and gay jokes. Lame.

Huh? I was quoting you. You must of edited your post.
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2006, 08:52:59 AM »
That is not my assertion, though it is not something I disagree with. I'm challenging the notion that Islam is the source of terrorism.

Islam is not the source of terroism.

Economic conditioins  and hatred for the Jews are.

Personally, if my Family was killed by Israelis I'd be come a terrorist who was an agnostic.

If I lived in an impoverished country that was continually being raped by large corporations from another country i might find the only way to combat it might be terrorism.

You don't have to Islamic to have motivations to commit terrorist acts.

However you can use religion to increase the passion and resolve for these attacks.

Point is it doesn't matter what religion you use.

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« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2006, 09:08:30 AM »
False.

Give evidence supporting your statements.

Just another libby apologist.
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« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2006, 09:10:06 AM »
False.

Give evidence supporting your statements.

Just another libby apologist.

Being English i'm supprised you are so daft....  well maybe not  ;D

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Care to comment?  Or perhaps you believe these guys were all Islamic too? 


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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2006, 09:31:25 AM »
Exception to the rule. What they wanted wasn't really religious, it was indipendance, from England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

Know your history sonny.

Explain islamic fundamentalism in the west, if you still believe terrorism and islam are not linked.
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« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2006, 09:45:51 AM »
Let's see:

I  Said, "Economic conditioins  and hatred for the Jews are"

Being independent is an econimic condition in regards to taxation.

So the Irish's "fight" for independence is a fight to be indepenent from taxation form England.

I was responding to this comment by Haider:

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That is not my assertion, though it is not something I disagree with. I'm challenging the notion that Islam is the source of terrorism.

Which i backed it up by saying "religion is not the source"  but it is used to fuel the passion for terrorism. 

And then i linked terrorism to a group who were terrorists and were not Islamic

Here's your wik link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2000

You must get a good workout on your legs from Jumping to conlcusions so much.




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Re: Opinions of Evolution by Religious types
« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2006, 09:58:07 AM »
Islam is not the source of terroism.

I reply:

False.

Give evidence supporting your statements.

You reply:

Being English i'm supprised you are so daft....  well maybe not  ;D

3 letters is all i need.

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Care to comment?  Or perhaps you believe these guys were all Islamic too? 

I reply:

Exception to the rule. What they wanted wasn't really religious, it was indipendance, from England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

Know your history sonny.

Explain islamic fundamentalism in the west, if you still believe terrorism and islam are not linked.

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« Reply #91 on: August 24, 2006, 10:16:03 AM »
Did you read the post above yours?

Do you read at all?

Or just shout insults cause i touched  a nerve?

Or are you still pissed about the top english restaraunt serving french food?

Do you know the definition of terrorism?

        Section 1. -

            (1) In this Act "terrorism" means the use or threat of action where-

                (a) the action falls within subsection (2),
                (b) the use or threat is designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and
                (c) the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.

            (2) Action falls within this subsection if it-

                (a) involves serious violence against a person,
                (b) involves serious damage to property,
                (c) endangers a person's life, other than that of the person committing the action,
                (d) creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public, or
                (e) is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.

            (3) The use or threat of action falling within subsection (2) which involves the use of firearms or explosives is terrorism whether or not subsection (1)(b) is satisfied.

when you say:
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Exception to the rule. What they wanted wasn't really religious, it was indipendance, from England.

You suggest acts of terrorism must be religous.  I say no based on the definition define in the terroism act.

Becuase terrorism isn't classified as solely for the purpose of advancing a religous doctrine it (Islam) is not the source of Terrorism.



Didn't Enlgand invent the "english language" ?  Because being from there i would think you'd have a better grasp of it.


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« Reply #92 on: August 24, 2006, 10:22:21 AM »
No, acts of terrorism don't have to be done in the name of a religion.

Islam feeds the fire for terrorism, and acts of terrorism are done in islams name (for islams cause [see Koran]).

Or are you still pissed about the top english restaraunt serving french food?

You mean the top restaurant in the WORLD serving french food.
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« Reply #93 on: August 24, 2006, 10:34:06 AM »
No, acts of terrorism don't have to be done in the name of a religion.

Islam feeds the fire for terrorism, and acts of terrorism are done in islams name (for islams cause [see Koran]).

You mean the top restaurant in the WORLD serving french food.

Exactly:

You remeber i said:
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However you can use religion to increase the passion and resolve for these attacks.

Christians have used their religion as an excuse or reason to commit all kinds of terrible acts over the centuries.

It's about power.  Wether you use politcal, idealogical or religion as a bases for it or as a rallying call it's still about power.



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« Reply #94 on: August 24, 2006, 10:46:22 AM »
Name these terrible acts.

Do note however, the conquests where to protect from muslim invasion.
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« Reply #95 on: August 24, 2006, 10:47:40 AM »
Terrorism happens when any group of people feel opressed and they feel it is the last option.

That was how the Unibomber felt.
That was how the Oklahoma city bombers felt.
That was how the IRA felt.
That was how Islamic Terroists felt
That was how the FLQ felt.
That was how Enviroterrorists.

Terrorism will never over through a government. You need a military to fo that.
But Terrorism will get you heard.
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« Reply #96 on: August 24, 2006, 10:51:01 AM »
Name these terrible acts.

Do note however, the conquests where to protect from muslim invasion.

You remember i said over the centuries.....


Crusades.

Where they when into villages and towns and Jeruselum, and killed EVERY man WOMAN and CHILD.  Because they were non-christians.

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« Reply #97 on: August 24, 2006, 10:55:00 AM »
You remember i said over the centuries.....


Crusades.

Where they when into villages and towns and Jeruselum, and killed EVERY man WOMAN and CHILD.  Because they were non-christians.

Evidence? ???

Give me a link atleast.
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« Reply #98 on: August 24, 2006, 10:59:48 AM »
Evidence? ???

Give me a link atleast.

Just Google:  "Crusade Massacre Muslims"  You get some hits:

Here are a few:

http://jeru.huji.ac.il/ef1.htm
http://san.beck.org/AB19-IslamCulture1095-1300.html
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab54


I don't have al the time in the world right now to go real deep with research  but it's common knowledge among most historians.

they even talked about it in "Kingdom of Heavan" the movie.
If you can find it:

Try the "Book of Martyrs"

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« Reply #99 on: August 24, 2006, 11:09:04 AM »
All those documents go on about "recovery of jerusalem".

Recovering it from the muslim invaders.

Fact.
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