Hey dude, you put the list together, I just rearranged it!
yes i know. donīt wanted to sound too harsh. just donīt like putting the emphasis ALWAYS MAINLY on the drugs. i know he wouldnīt look anywhere near this condition(sizewise)without gear, but he would look even less good taking the same drugs like now but without training. so whats the point in crying drugs, drugs, drugs.
as far as i see it:
training +drugs = incredible, unhuman physique
training without drugs = can develop pretty impressive pyhsique, to which hardcore getbiggers will always say "swimmer"
drugs without training = you will look like shit
so my conclusion is: training is more important than drugs!!