Now when I go off, I train and eat the same way and never had a problem. Personally I dont use a maintenance dose because technically that is never going off.
Maybe you have had different experiences than me. Most users who I have spoke to always have had the best gains during their first, even Dave Palumbo said the same in his column. I have taken 2-3 months off between cycles with proper pct and never kept working out even with off. I never made the huge gains after I did the first cycle, but I still made gains they were more solid and less water. In the past 3 years I have steadily went up in weight, i dont gain 20-30 pounds at a time, more like 5-10lbs. My body never goes into shock when off because I dont use alot of hormones.
Your also right gh15 you gotta consume more calories, might not look as full but the weight doesnt go all away.
the reason we are big is the amount of calories we consume/day and the hormones we supply ourselves with over that time period. you dont have to lift super heavy like i mistakenly do many time just because i like lifting,,you can grow from any resistance training including bowflex machine. you dont have to do free barbell bench you can use the smith. it DOES NOT matter! the thing that makes me laugh the most usually is when someone approach me tellin why i recomend to use smith for bench,,,DUH when you are off roids and wanna still lift heavy weight what can be better than smith?? when you got no spoter what can be better than smith for heavy weight?? nothing! it is not the free bars that grow you,,it is the resistance applied to your muscles.
all that matters is high caloric intake,, high enough levels of hormones in the blood achieved by synthetic supply of hormones,, and decent form resistance training. the fact wether you bench 3 plates each side to a fauilre or 2 should not matter to the bodybuilder as long as you achieve muscle failure or come as close as you can to it. ofcourse when you get more muscle aim to lift more thats a given.
part of the reason i see users that stuck at 170-180lb in the gym while hormonized themselves is what i call the "ego factor",,,they simply lift too heavy and walk around buffy puffy but lack real develpment at the end of the day. very common problem,,its not the genetics its the training caloric intake and hormones who make the final difference between competitor and a gym rat.