Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?

[Darth Muscle]

Don Youngblood -  Dead
Flex Wheeler -       Kidney Transplant
Don Long -           Kidney Transplant
Tom Prince-          Kidney Dialysis
Nasser -               Body will not respond
King -                  Shape ruined
Kovacks-              Shape ruined
Ronnie -               8 Mr.O's, shape ruined
Victor and Melvin -  get out while you can

[Euro-monster]

no....I'm a god

 

Yeah...an avatar god so to speak...

[knny187]

Yeah...an avatar god so to speak...

if there is such a thing
 

[youandme]

What are chads credentials anyways? Great Expert Dieter

[Euro-monster]

if there is such a thing
 

lol....

[gh15]

Don Youngblood -  Dead
Flex Wheeler -       Kidney Transplant
Don Long -           Kidney Transplant
Tom Prince-          Kidney Dialysis
Nasser -               Body will not respond
King -                  Shape ruined
Kovacks-              Shape ruined
Ronnie -               8 Mr.O's, shape ruined
Victor and Melvin -  get out while you can

you forgot orville whos the whore in the the avatar above? those boobs are not bad for fakes

[Euro-monster]

you forgot orville whos the whore in the the avatar above? those boobs are not bad for fakes

Stop calling my wife a whore..lol....

[Mr. Intenseone]

I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.

.........and the judges. If you told any one of these guys that they needed to get on poodle shit for a higher placing, they'd eat it!

[muscularny]

well I dont know much but im thinking what if he lays out a drug plan and diet plan but then they go nuts on junk food, using slin and not being careful of what you eat if real bad or playing around with t3 levels again without monitoring all the time is also a good way to fuck up a body rather quick

staying strict on a diet is easier said then done, its very easy to load a pin and give yourself a shot but its also easy to load a plate with cake and cookies and eat it

in addition when someone goes to chad usually they tried everything already took loads of orals and loads of shots and they feel a standstill they run to him, so the medical fuckups can be prior him very easily

just another way to look at things

[legbreaker]

What are chads credentials anyways? Great Expert Dieter

Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.

[Van_Bilderass]

Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.

I'm pretty sure Chad said he has competed some time a long ago, however he never showed pics to anyone, Prince said he didn't want to show them to him.

[legbreaker]

It's not necessarily Chad I was refering to, but the industry as a whole.

[Van_Bilderass]

It's not necessarily Chad I was refering to, but the industry as a whole.

Yes but no one forces the athletes to use any guru. They must feel it's worth the expense or they wouldn't keep hiring them. I hear Chad takes 10% of winnings, plus some base fee I'm sure, so that's a good amount of money if it comes out of someone like Ronnie's Olympia paycheck. This non placing pro Heinz Sr said on another site that Hany Rambod charged 4K for a 16 week program.

[legbreaker]

Absolutely, Van!  Wow, 4 grand...incredible, but he gets it. 

[youandme]

Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.

Thanks for the clear headed response. Your right.

[Rampage]

Reposted
A conspiracy theory or not?

Well lets see..im not sterringthe pot, but rather speculating.Remember back in `02 when GUNTER was advised by nichols ? I THINK, and im almost certain imnot mistaken , but aftert that awesome 5th place of GUnter, chad said that he would disccontinue workng with Gunter because `certain people` (im assuming the powers in control)  told him that IF he gets Gunter to the top, he`l be taken care of...and obviously that didnt happen.So chad cut ties right

Well seeing as though Chad has been approached by `certain people` previously , is there a possibilty he was contacted again  from these people , this time with the goal in mind of making RONNIE less of a threat>>   Could be.Obvious question would be, why would he trust those `certain people` again sinced theyv not followed through on their promise to take care of him (whichever way that is) Again, who knows? Maybe a concrete offer this time, maybe an approach from some other people

Any why would someone want to approach chad for this? Simple....a change in bodybuilding.A new POSTERCHILD and new excitement to the sport.Usher in a new era? The likes of Victor , melvin.

All this is speculation- not fact....just a conspiracy theory..it does make the wheel tuirn though doesnt it

It makes no sense to me how Ronnie continue to be off this far in his game.And wasnt it chad that said : `RONNIE WILL NEEEEVR EEEEEVR COME IN OFF`.So what gives?

Sorry brother chad , ths is just speculation

[legbreaker]

While I think that's an interesting suggestion, Rampage, I don't see it being true.  I think the only reason Ronnie was not his (HIS) best is because of his injured tricep and whatever is going on with his back and NOT condition.  Yes, he wasn't as detailed as HE normally is, but he was enormous and conditioned.  It was the messed up bodyparts that, in my opinion, kept him out of the top and prevented him from training ceratin bodyparts the way he needed to.  Anything can be true, however, so I don't discredit your theory. 

[Rampage]

While I think that's an interesting suggestion, Rampage, I don't see it being true.  I think the only reason Ronnie was not his (HIS) best is because of his injured tricep and whatever is going on with his back and NOT condition.  Yes, he wasn't as detailed as HE normally is, but he was enormous and conditioned.  It was the messed up bodyparts that, in my opinion, kept him out of the top and prevented him from training ceratin bodyparts the way he needed to.  Anything can be true, however, so I don't discredit your theory. 

I agree with you that its his bodyparts that are lacking , and not the conditioning.Every1 says its conditioning.But i feel if even he was 100% on , he cant compete with cutlers back right now

And Coleman definitely has something physically wrong.Because they is no other logical explanation for his back REGRESSING as it has.His lat spread is tiny now.His detail is gone.His tricep is gone.He`ll always lose Ab/thi to cutler...these are all physical defects as you can see, nothing to do with conditioning

[TheGoldenPrince]

Really now , i know some of you have a list

i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well

and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him

besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?

Natural is the best way to go bar none.

[SUBTRACTION]

.........and the judges. If you told any one of these guys that they needed to get on poodle shit for a higher placing, they'd eat it!

I blame teh judges too, but I mostly blame Chad!