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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #325 on: September 06, 2006, 12:57:05 PM »
I couldnt eat like that..I would start going backwards and looking like I used to, like a musclebear.. I eat really clean , with an occassional cheat meal here and there, like on monday at a bbq i had 4 cheeseburgers. haha...spiked my weight 4 lbs higher for a few days..i dont care, its not a race for me anymore, im just gonna take my time and get into great shape by nov. im still 213-210

You THINK you will go backwards Heracles.  If I can borrow your trust, I can help you.

Lend me your trust.  I think once you decide to you will be shocked at how easy it should have been for you.

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #326 on: September 06, 2006, 01:08:39 PM »
The True Adonis,

I responded to your thread in the Y section. Do you think you could look it over?

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #327 on: September 06, 2006, 01:09:11 PM »

Now this picture was taken some time ago, I am assuming. 

Now, in pictures where you were much larger, what brought you to that stage?
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« Reply #328 on: September 06, 2006, 01:14:21 PM »
The True Adonis,

I responded to your thread in the Y section. Do you think you could look it over?

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Yes!

I will answer all of your questions!

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #329 on: September 06, 2006, 01:16:07 PM »
Adonis do you always eat in 'black' restaurants ?
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« Reply #330 on: September 06, 2006, 01:26:28 PM »
Yes!

I will answer all of your questions!

Monster Larry King shoulders in that photo Adonis.

I've seen skeletons with rounder delts.
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« Reply #331 on: September 06, 2006, 05:18:55 PM »
My theories are pulled from all theories.  A little bit of Adonis, Zane,Mentzer,Reeves,Grimek,Rheo Blair,Eugene Sandow,Vince Gironda.

They also come from Science,Biology,Nutrition,History and the Food Network. hahah..I use every piece of info that I can to some extent.  I am constantly reading and researching diets as well as their application as well as their relation to ease and how practical in todays society.

My theories continually are getting bigger and bigger as I take more and more notes down,experimenting on myself and others.  100 percent success rate is what I aim for and that is what I get.


I will now give you some words of wisdom from the great Bruce Lee.  This is the way I approach my methods:


 have not invented a "new style," composite, modified or otherwise that is set within distinct form as apart from "this" method or "that" method. On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from clinging to styles, patterns, or molds. Remember that Jeet Kune Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which to see "ourselves". . . Jeet Kune Do is not an organized institution that one can be a member of. Either you understand or you don't, and that is that.
There is no mystery about my style. My movements are simple, direct and non-classical. The extraordinary part of it lies in its simplicity. Every movement in Jeet Kune-Do is being so of itself. There is nothing artificial about it. I always believe that the easy way is the right way. Jeet Kune-Do is simply the direct expression of one's feelings with the minimum of movements and energy. The closer to the true way of Kung Fu, the less wastage of expression there is.
Finally, a Jeet Kune Do man who says Jeet Kune Do is exclusively Jeet Kune Do is simply not with it. He is still hung up on his self-closing resistance, in this case anchored down to reactionary pattern, and naturally is still bound by another modified pattern and can move within its limits. He has not digested the simple fact that truth exists outside all molds; pattern and awareness is never exclusive.
Again let me remind you Jeet Kune Do is just a name used, a boat to get one across, and once across it is to be discarded and not to be carried on one's back.

I greatly admire Bruce Lee. And that is a wonderful speech by him. And what you are doing has nothing to do with his vision. You are trying to create a new style, adding yours to the many that are out there. You are saying "Eat and train this way and you will look like me, be like me". It is self-agrandizing. You're not setting people free, you're just trying to trap them in a different system. Bruce Lee was about simplicity, about instinct, about listening to your body and learning how to express yourself with your body and it's movements. Bruce Lee's greatest students were all origianlly members of other styles, ones they had nearly mastered. He showed them how to make the style fluid instead of rigid, how to make the style their own. That is the point of martial arts techniques and styles. You train and you learn and you practice a prescribed style so you can teach your body to move. And when your body has learned how to move, how to express itself, you transcend style. Look at Jet Li. He has mastered Kung Fu. All of it. Every style, every branch. He has transcended all styles. When you watch him practice, whether he is doing a form or sparring or just training, there is no space between thought and action. His movements are pure. That is true of all great martial artists, though none moreso than him.

My point is that it is the same with training and nutrition. When you start, you follow certain stricture or a certain path. You follow that path so that you can learn about your body, learn how to listen to it and how to control it. It is something that can only be learned through experience, through putting in the hours in the gym and sticking to your diet. I read about the mind-muscle connection for years, and I thought I knew what it was all about. But it wasn't until the past couple of months of training that I finally got it. I always thought I knew what it was and had achieved that. I was foolish and arrogant. But then one day I started to really hear what my body was telling me. It was like an epiphany. And I realise that I have a lot more to learn about my body. Everytime I workout, I learn something new about my body. I find some way to get even more out of my muscles, out of a particular exercise or training method, and out of my diet. Because of that, I am able to get the most out of all aspects of my training. And with every meal and every workout, I learn a little more, I take another step toward my goals.

I am sure that you feel very similarly when you train and when you eat. For me I know that there is very little that is more gratifying than that. But to say that your way is superior, that all others are demogogues is just arrogant and misleading. Bruce Lee hated the politics in martial arts, hated that most styles could not see the forest for the trees and kept their adherents from progressing past the style. There was too much ego in it, and it held people back. Sound familiar? Bruce Lee wanted to show people how to continue their progress, how to listen to their body and learn from it. The same principle applies to bodybuilding. Do not mistake personal truth for universal truth.
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« Reply #332 on: September 06, 2006, 05:29:09 PM »
I greatly admire Bruce Lee. And that is a wonderful speech by him. And what you are doing has nothing to do with his vision. You are trying to create a new style, adding yours to the many that are out there. You are saying "Eat and train this way and you will look like me, be like me". It is self-agrandizing. You're not setting people free, you're just trying to trap them in a different system. Bruce Lee was about simplicity, about instinct, about listening to your body and learning how to express yourself with your body and it's movements. Bruce Lee's greatest students were all origianlly members of other styles, ones they had nearly mastered. He showed them how to make the style fluid instead of rigid, how to make the style their own. That is the point of martial arts techniques and styles. You train and you learn and you practice a prescribed style so you can teach your body to move. And when your body has learned how to move, how to express itself, you transcend style. Look at Jet Li. He has mastered Kung Fu. All of it. Every style, every branch. He has transcended all styles. When you watch him practice, whether he is doing a form or sparring or just training, there is no space between thought and action. His movements are pure. That is true of all great martial artists, though none moreso than him.

My point is that it is the same with training and nutrition. When you start, you follow certain stricture or a certain path. You follow that path so that you can learn about your body, learn how to listen to it and how to control it. It is something that can only be learned through experience, through putting in the hours in the gym and sticking to your diet. I read about the mind-muscle connection for years, and I thought I knew what it was all about. But it wasn't until the past couple of months of training that I finally got it. I always thought I knew what it was and had achieved that. I was foolish and arrogant. But then one day I started to really hear what my body was telling me. It was like an epiphany. And I realise that I have a lot more to learn about my body. Everytime I workout, I learn something new about my body. I find some way to get even more out of my muscles, out of a particular exercise or training method, and out of my diet. Because of that, I am able to get the most out of all aspects of my training. And with every meal and every workout, I learn a little more, I take another step toward my goals.

I am sure that you feel very similarly when you train and when you eat. For me I know that there is very little that is more gratifying than that. But to say that your way is superior, that all others are demogogues is just arrogant and misleading. Bruce Lee hated the politics in martial arts, hated that most styles could not see the forest for the trees and kept their adherents from progressing past the style. There was too much ego in it, and it held people back. Sound familiar? Bruce Lee wanted to show people how to continue their progress, how to listen to their body and learn from it. The same principle applies to bodybuilding. Do not mistake personal truth for universal truth.

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #333 on: September 06, 2006, 07:41:19 PM »
Bruce Lee.

The Master.

hahahahahahahaha  Bruce Lee was nothing more than an actor and you bite into his bullshit like he was some genious philosopher. you really are a tool. hahahahahahahahaha

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #334 on: September 06, 2006, 07:50:40 PM »
I greatly admire Bruce Lee. And that is a wonderful speech by him. And what you are doing has nothing to do with his vision. You are trying to create a new style, adding yours to the many that are out there. You are saying "Eat and train this way and you will look like me, be like me". It is self-agrandizing. You're not setting people free, you're just trying to trap them in a different system. Bruce Lee was about simplicity, about instinct, about listening to your body and learning how to express yourself with your body and it's movements. Bruce Lee's greatest students were all origianlly members of other styles, ones they had nearly mastered. He showed them how to make the style fluid instead of rigid, how to make the style their own. That is the point of martial arts techniques and styles. You train and you learn and you practice a prescribed style so you can teach your body to move. And when your body has learned how to move, how to express itself, you transcend style. Look at Jet Li. He has mastered Kung Fu. All of it. Every style, every branch. He has transcended all styles. When you watch him practice, whether he is doing a form or sparring or just training, there is no space between thought and action. His movements are pure. That is true of all great martial artists, though none moreso than him.

My point is that it is the same with training and nutrition. When you start, you follow certain stricture or a certain path. You follow that path so that you can learn about your body, learn how to listen to it and how to control it. It is something that can only be learned through experience, through putting in the hours in the gym and sticking to your diet. I read about the mind-muscle connection for years, and I thought I knew what it was all about. But it wasn't until the past couple of months of training that I finally got it. I always thought I knew what it was and had achieved that. I was foolish and arrogant. But then one day I started to really hear what my body was telling me. It was like an epiphany. And I realise that I have a lot more to learn about my body. Everytime I workout, I learn something new about my body. I find some way to get even more out of my muscles, out of a particular exercise or training method, and out of my diet. Because of that, I am able to get the most out of all aspects of my training. And with every meal and every workout, I learn a little more, I take another step toward my goals.

I am sure that you feel very similarly when you train and when you eat. For me I know that there is very little that is more gratifying than that. But to say that your way is superior, that all others are demogogues is just arrogant and misleading. Bruce Lee hated the politics in martial arts, hated that most styles could not see the forest for the trees and kept their adherents from progressing past the style. There was too much ego in it, and it held people back. Sound familiar? Bruce Lee wanted to show people how to continue their progress, how to listen to their body and learn from it. The same principle applies to bodybuilding. Do not mistake personal truth for universal truth.

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #335 on: September 06, 2006, 08:14:14 PM »
Post of the month?  Judges?


And where have YOU been through this whole dialogue? This is exactly where you should be stepping up to debate this

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #336 on: September 06, 2006, 08:27:24 PM »
hahahahahahahaha  Bruce Lee was nothing more than an actor and you bite into his bullshit like he was some genious philosopher. you really are a tool. hahahahahahahahaha


Actually he was a genius philospher. He was a philosophy student at the University of Washington and was incredibly well versed in both eastern and western philosophy.
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« Reply #337 on: September 06, 2006, 08:31:08 PM »
Post of the month?

hahahahhah Go ahead and align yourself with them.

Keep the delusion and lies alive.

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« Reply #338 on: September 06, 2006, 08:31:58 PM »
The student has become the teacher.

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« Reply #339 on: September 06, 2006, 08:41:10 PM »
Post of the month?

hahahahhah Go ahead and align yourself with them.

Keep the delusion and lies alive.

Fine. Prove me wrong. Show me that despite the fact that there are plenty of natural and juiced guys out there who have been big and shredded, using all variety of methods, that what they have accomplished is somehow fake. The only one who is keeping delusion and lies here alive is you. You're purporting something that does in fact work for you, for now, is the only way to gain muscle or get shredded, and that everything else is lies. But you've also gained muscle and gotten shredded using a more "traditional" approach. Essentially, you are denying a large part of your past and reality to rationalise yourself into a position as some kind of guru, and in the process you are going to do damage to the physiques of those who are listening to you.
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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #340 on: September 06, 2006, 08:46:00 PM »
I've got a large binder full of research published in journal articles on protein intake and it's effects on the body and exercise, as well as growth. In every single one, the groups that had higher protein intake always performed better and gained more lean muscle mass. Funny, I don't seem to recall ever coming across anything you've published in a scientific or medical peer reviewed journal ???

If you're intaking less calories than you're burning, and you're working out, of course you're going to stay lean and still see some gains. Your body is going to be forced to use whatever it can to repair your muscles. When I was 120 pounds and hardly eating anything, once I started eating more and hitting the gym, I got lean and added size rapidly. But that ended once my body finally hit equilibrium. Once I started intaking a lot of protein, juggled my meal timing and my carbs and worked out hard, I made even greater gains, had better workouts, and got the leanest I've ever been. Eating pizza and ice cream can work, but it is not the best or most efficient way to lean out or add size.

Another huge factor in this is genetics. How easily you lean out or add fat, as well as carb sensitivity, plays a huge role in what diet will work for you and what won't. I have a friend who weighs probly 160 soaking wet at about 6' 2". He is the crappiest eater I have ever seen. I have watched him down multiple bacon cheeseburgers, two 2 liters of Mountain Dew, a box of brownie bites, and a pizza all in aboutone and a half to two hours. And he never gains a pound. He added a little weight when he worked out, but no matter how he eats or how much, he is always lean. He's been like that his entire life. He's like super-ecto.

Advocating that people switch to diets of ice cream and pizza is just irresponsible. It's wonderful that you can eat like that and stay lean. Congratulations on good genetics. But it is undeniable that for people who are not so lucky, this diet would be harmful for their health. Many people who are fat may be genetically predisposed to being that way, but that doesn't mean that with proper diet and nutrition that they can't overcome that. Eating pizza, ice cream and potato chips is not going to help them overcome.

I have read most of the pages and unless I am missing something TA never addressed this.  He always seem to skip over/ignore certain points.   

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #341 on: September 06, 2006, 08:47:35 PM »
Fine. Prove me wrong. Show me that despite the fact that there are plenty of natural and juiced guys out there who have been big and shredded, using all variety of methods, that what they have accomplished is somehow fake. The only one who is keeping delusion and lies here alive is you. You're purporting something that does in fact work for you, for now, is the only way to gain muscle or get shredded, and that everything else is lies. But you've also gained muscle and gotten shredded using a more "traditional" approach. Essentially, you are denying a large part of your past and reality to rationalise yourself into a position as some kind of guru, and in the process you are going to do damage to the physiques of those who are listening to you.

I don`t address nonsense.

I never discounted other methods,however, the other methods are weak.

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« Reply #342 on: September 06, 2006, 08:51:05 PM »
I have read most of the pages and unless I am missing something TA never addressed this.  He always seem to skip over/ignore certain points.   

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« Reply #343 on: September 06, 2006, 09:55:26 PM »
Actually he was a genius philospher. He was a philosophy student at the University of Washington and was incredibly well versed in both eastern and western philosophy.

I bet your wearing King Fu shoes right now.

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« Reply #344 on: September 06, 2006, 10:10:12 PM »
As you can see, I have tried the traditional bullshit.

I got lean,but weak and it was stupid.  You can see there was no error.

I would never do this type of diet ever again.  It is pointless and would never reccommend it to anyone.
What I do now is superior.
I don`t address nonsense.

I never discounted other methods,however, the other methods are weak.
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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #345 on: September 07, 2006, 04:14:45 AM »
Bump for icecream.

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Re: Why you SHOULD be eating ICE CREAM to get ripped.
« Reply #346 on: September 07, 2006, 04:24:33 AM »
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« Reply #347 on: September 07, 2006, 04:28:49 AM »
Adonis, i hope this is some psyche-out attempt at the last few weeks to get your competition to eat a bunch of ice cream and pizza....
i hope you arent serious because this is utter nonsense
lol just my thought. shittiest thread ever. TA has reached his alltime low.  :-\

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« Reply #348 on: September 07, 2006, 07:29:00 AM »
lol just my thought. shittiest thread ever. TA has reached his alltime low.  :-\

Now go back to your brocolli chickenbreast brown rice one spoon of olive oil diet.

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« Reply #349 on: September 07, 2006, 10:39:13 AM »
It's easy for a young 20 year old to say that all food including mcdonalds is good for you.  Everyone I know or have known in their twenties can eat or drink whatever they want with little consequence whatsoever.  But, it does add up and one day you, TA (total ass), will be tooting a different horn.

It's similar to a boxing match.  One or two body blows doesn't effect you much, but after several rounds of taking bodyshots something gives.  All these toxins you keep putting in your mouth do accumulate over time and reck with your internal organs.  An alcolholic doesn't die from the first year or two of heavy drinking.  It takes years for your body to fall apart.

But do what you want.  It's all individual choice, but someone can get hurt from the games you play.