NO agoraphobic enters a show like this of any kind, tiddlywinks, strict curl whatever. It’s a con to get him drugs or benefits somehow. Maybe excuse with a court.

So when I win a National level NPC show any of them you will then admit I am the better bodybuilder and you don't know shit? I just want to be clear on when this will be over. At what point do I get credit? Do I need to take the overall at Nationals or just win my class? Is a top 3 good enough? How far does this have to go?

Zero chance. Class A delusional. Likely never will enter a National show because he knows it won’t be 2 scrubs. World Class delusional liar though.

Yes, but I think not if the substance is bio-identical.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/scientific-research/novel-approach-detect-and-identify-low-abundant-long-term-metabolites

I didn't read or research but "regular" synthetic testosterone you get at the pharmacy is called "bioidentical." And that is detected by isotope testing. I don't know if you can synthetically make test with the correct isotope, or if you'd have to extract it from human urine or whatever, but I have never seen mention of truly bioidentical test being made or sold anywhere. Patrick Arnold didn't have it. But if I were to guess it's probably possible to manufacture or extract somehow... someone should look it up, I'm too lazy right now. But even then doping would be plenty hard I think as they would see levels are abnormally high and lutenizing hormone is suppressed and so on. That's why they have the "biological passports," where they monitor fluctuations and not just outright abnormal numbers. Like high test after races when they should normally drop, or coming in to comps always with topped out red blood cells. There are for sure real doping evading experts out there but they are not writing on the net, for the most part.

Like I said earlier, I think a lot of doping today is done with substances not currently banned. Like that Alex Kikel fella says Melanotan II is not banned but improves hematology. I don't know if true but that's what he claims. WADA is monitoring a bunch of drugs not on the lists, when they see everyone have a certain legal drug in their system they take notice.

GH seems easy to detects. Normally your body secretes several forms of GH, not just the 20 or 22kda isoform or whatever you can supplement exogenously. Maybe cadaver derived would get around this, I don't know. Alex Kikel says China does manufacture these other forms though, some of which are not on the banned lists.

I was a very lean 150 pounds when I started lifting in my early 20's, at a height of 5'9". About 5 years later I weighed 185 give or take and was about the same leanness. That's kind where it all tapered off and any weight I put on since then was fat.

The routine I settled on after trying all the whacky stuff was doing 3 sets of 8-10 reps and adding weight every so often, doing that twice a week for a particular exercise. Every so often I'd take a week off because i was tired, then I'd restart.

All the research I have done on natural weight lifters shows I was in the midrange for muscle growth. I still think adding 30+ pounds of muscle from weight training was pretty amazing, and I got a lot stronger to boot. But these chemical monsters we see on bodybuilding pages are so far outside the realm of natural that it is just a chemical freak show- and i watch them for the freak show thrill, haha.

I started at a low BF 155lbs and am now a lean 200lb onstage same BF % after 40 years training

If I was natural and the same BF % with training I would probably weigh 185
If I stopped training and maintaned the same BF% I would likely be 155 again.

We all end up back where we started eventually

Even pros end up back where they started if the stop training and taking hormones.

Imagine Cormier at 5% BF now untrained.

I was a very lean 150 pounds when I started lifting in my early 20's, at a height of 5'9". About 5 years later I weighed 185 give or take and was about the same leanness. That's kind where it all tapered off and any weight I put on since then was fat.

The routine I settled on after trying all the whacky stuff was doing 3 sets of 8-10 reps and adding weight every so often, doing that twice a week for a particular exercise. Every so often I'd take a week off because i was tired, then I'd restart.

All the research I have done on natural weight lifters shows I was in the midrange for muscle growth. I still think adding 30+ pounds of muscle from weight training was pretty amazing, and I got a lot stronger to boot. But these chemical monsters we see on bodybuilding pages are so far outside the realm of natural that it is just a chemical freak show- and i watch them for the freak show thrill, haha.

they just build bigger verisons of thier same look

ie. as the arms, legs, back etc grow so does the waist

looks shit

keep the waist at 30 inches while adding 20-40 pounds then we can talk