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Title: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 02, 2021, 08:09:56 PM
Nothing to contribute. Lies about everything politics and gets caught. ONLY HERE TO TROLL. My vote is the fucker needs to go. He’s everything wrong with GetBig
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Never1AShow on April 02, 2021, 09:04:03 PM
Hasn't he already gone?  Didn't he used to be 240orBunk?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Dave D on April 02, 2021, 09:50:10 PM
He shouldn't be banned, its not like we are talking about shizzo.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 02, 2021, 09:53:52 PM
Nothing to contribute. Lies about everything politics and gets caught. ONLY HERE TO TROLL. My vote is the fucker needs to go. He’s everything wrong with GetBig

Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 02, 2021, 10:06:16 PM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

Had to stop reading at “he speaks for 80 mil American’s” as if Biden actually got 80mil votes. I have yet to find one Biden supporter on here (or literally anywhere) that can defend any of the policies that he’s signed into executive order. Not one. I’ve said this even before the election. You had no idea what you voted for...none and if you did then you’re too stupid to vote.

That being said, Strawman can’t defend anything. He’s a communist that’s never denied it. I hate communists.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 02, 2021, 10:08:10 PM
Had to stop reading at “he speaks for 80 mil American’s” as if Biden actually got 80mil votes. I have yet to find one Biden supporter on here (or literally anywhere) that can defend any of the policies that he’s signed into executive order. Not one. I’ve said this even before the election. You had no idea what you voted for...none and if you did then you’re too stupid to vote.

And this is why it is soooooo hard to give you any credibility. You HAVE to know all the people who ratified the election, I won't repeat it because we've been over it so many times, and you STILL cling to the nonsense claim like a well conditioned Trumpster
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 02, 2021, 10:12:09 PM
And this is why it is soooooo hard to give you any credibility. You HAVE to know all the people who ratified the election, I won't repeat it because we've been over it so many times, and you STILL cling to the nonsense claim like a well conditioned Trumpster

Yeah, just because it was ratified doesn’t mean it was legal. But it is what it is and I’m being proven right everyday. No one and I mean NO ONE can prove he legitimately won. But this isn’t what this is about. This about a troll, a coward troll that brings nothing, but trolling.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on April 03, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag


Hi Strawman
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 03, 2021, 03:24:37 AM
I vote that he stays.  Strawman's ignorance is very entertaining for laughs.  He also suffers from chronic TDS so it would be like discrimination against mental handicapped people if you made him leave.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 03, 2021, 04:07:01 AM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

Hi Strawman
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 03, 2021, 04:50:25 AM
get him the fuck outta here..... worthless as dog shit....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 03, 2021, 05:52:08 AM
I think he should stay, everyone deserves a voice no matter how crazy or irrational they might be, even guys like shitszo and eprick contribute comic relief with their retarded antics from time to time. I can't wait to see what fat assed woman pic kwon might post next. life would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 03, 2021, 05:53:13 AM
And this is why it is soooooo hard to give you any credibility. You HAVE to know all the people who ratified the election, I won't repeat it because we've been over it so many times, and you STILL cling to the nonsense claim like a well conditioned Trumpster

wanna bet?... fuckin degenerate lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Palumboism on April 03, 2021, 06:07:59 AM
I vote that he stays.  Strawman's ignorance is very entertaining for laughs.  He also suffers from chronic TDS so it would be like discrimination against mental handicapped people if you made him leave.


 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: TheShape. on April 03, 2021, 06:16:09 AM
Why are you advocating censorship Coach? Are you insecure about your own beliefs? Just ignore the troll and move on or personally block him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 03, 2021, 06:26:49 AM
No cancelling on Getbig...even Straw.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 03, 2021, 06:41:20 AM


My qualm with the quim is he never defends his positions, just throws forth mass amounts of leftist party sponsored propaganda.

Voting against your own interests tends to do this.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 03, 2021, 06:52:00 AM
Nobody should be banned (unless Pedo like Pillowtalk, Moosegay etc), but Strawman and Funk et al should have their posting rights revoked, so they can only read.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 03, 2021, 06:55:12 AM
Getbig is the last bastion of free speech.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 03, 2021, 07:04:59 AM
Getbig is the last bastion of free speech.

Yup.  And even a bastard (e.g., Straw Man) deserves a bastion.  But I still hope he Covids up and craps out.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:10:36 AM
You can't counter his arguments or "prove it" when challenged by him on your own delusions and lies that you fall for and trot out on a daily basis, but yet HE is the one that needs to leave?

Fucking little pussy ass that you are.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:15:13 AM
Yeah, just because it was ratified doesn’t mean it was legal. But it is what it is and I’m being proven right everyday. No one and I mean NO ONE can prove he legitimately won. But this isn’t what this is about. This about a troll, a coward troll that brings nothing, but trolling.

We don't have to prove he won.  He did.  If you are claiming he didn't, then YOU have to prove that.  And when asked to "prove it", all you do link nonsense articles and bullshit that you don't even understand in the first place. 

Maybe YOU are the one that  needs to go with your bullshit threads - that ALWAYS backfire - and nonstop conspiracy theories that you expect everyone else to accept as fact.  Dumbass birther.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:16:11 AM
wanna bet?... fuckin degenerate lol

If you think differently, then prove him wrong.  Which won't be by the reply above.  Try again.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

Hahahahahahaha.....anoth er clown who actually believes that RAPIST Joe Biden received over 81,000,000 legal votes.

Not a chance in hell that happened.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2021, 08:47:13 AM
All you have to do is this:

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 03, 2021, 09:00:31 AM
All you have to do is this:

True.


Leave him on the boards. Just put him in ignore.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Automation on April 03, 2021, 09:19:11 AM
Coach. Move on bro. Dwelling on this shit won’t get you anywhere. Life’s short enough without wasting it on bullshit politics.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 03, 2021, 09:32:51 AM
Yeah, life's too short indeed.



Let's all move on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on April 03, 2021, 09:45:16 AM
Geez....It's almost as if the guy registered the name "Coach is Back!" over on the new Trump forum or something?

Not that I'm advocating anyone taking such action or anything like that.....

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 09:51:19 AM
You can't counter his arguments or "prove it" when challenged by him on your own delusions and lies that you fall for and trot out on a daily basis, but yet HE is the one that needs to leave?

Fucking little pussy ass that you are.

Liar...you’re the other one that brings nothing. But nice you call me a pussy from 2000 miles away hiding behind a keyboard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 10:02:07 AM
We don't have to prove he won.  He did.  If you are claiming he didn't, then YOU have to prove that.  And when asked to "prove it", all you do link nonsense articles and bullshit that you don't even understand in the first place. 

Maybe YOU are the one that  needs to go with your bullshit threads - that ALWAYS backfire - and nonstop conspiracy theories that you expect everyone else to accept as fact.  Dumbass birther.

Actually you do fuckhead. You refuse to read what’s been brought yet you and again, not ANYONE on here, not any politician no one can prove a legit win...NO ONE!! Fuck, you can’t (or Strawman) can’t even defend any of Biden’s policies...er, I mean executive orders. I guaranfuckingtee if I through out a policy you couldn’t defend it.....you or any other Biden “voter” knew what they were voting for unless you’re a Marixist. Stupid people shouldn’t vote...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 03, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
We don't have to prove he won.  He did.  If you are claiming he didn't, then YOU have to prove that.  And when asked to "prove it", all you do link nonsense articles and bullshit that you don't even understand in the first place. 

Maybe YOU are the one that  needs to go with your bullshit threads - that ALWAYS backfire - and nonstop conspiracy theories that you expect everyone else to accept as fact.  Dumbass birther.

There has been more than enough valid (and disturbingly so) evidence presented but the courts have dismissed it.  That is even more alarming. Unless of course those people are dead set on doing away with the Constitution and installing a Constipation, if you will.

That you feel otherwise is indicative of you suffering from being full (i.e. the aforementioned constipation) of shit.  And remember, this little Matrix is NOT the real world.  You should be glad of that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 10:12:58 AM

Hi Strawman

LOL  - you idiots think every other poster is me

this is my account and no one other than me uses it

I'm not sure why you dumbfucks feel the need for me to be more than one person

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 10:14:47 AM
Nothing to contribute. Lies about everything politics and gets caught. ONLY HERE TO TROLL. My vote is the fucker needs to go. He’s everything wrong with GetBig

MELTDOWN

not sure if you're aware of it but no one is forcing you to read my posts



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 10:15:47 AM

My qualm with the quim is he never defends his positions, just throws forth mass amounts of leftist party sponsored propaganda.

Voting against your own interests tends to do this.

post some examples
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
It works beautifully:👍

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 10:27:36 AM
It works beautifully:👍

jesus what a loser

now you're just being reminded that you're ignoring my posts?

LOL
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 10:28:08 AM
post some examples

Read your own first post fucktard...this is what I mean by your can’t defend it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=671933.0
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 10:30:06 AM
Straw Man loves BBC
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Read your own first post fucktard...this is what I mean by your can’t defend it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=671933.0

"Your can't defend"?

what exactly is  there to "defend"

It's a statement of fact that MLB pulls All-Star Game from Atlanta in protest of restrictive new voting law

that's called "reality" dipshit

Sorry if you can't deal with it

My comment was that I'm looking forward to watching Trumptards go to war with corporate America

That's me stating that I'm looking forward to watching more of this

what exactly is there to "defend" in any of that and why the fuck are you melting down over it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 10:41:19 AM
"Your can't defend"?

what exactly is  there to "defend"

It's a statement of fact that MLB pulls All-Star Game from Atlanta in protest of restrictive new voting law

that's called "reality" dipshit

Sorry if you can't deal with it

My comment was that I'm looking forward to watching Trumptards go to war with corporate America

That's me stating that I'm looking forward to watching more of this

what exactly is there to "defend" in any of that and why the fuck are you melting down over it?
Straw Man love BB Muslim straws
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 11:02:24 AM
Liar...you’re the other one that brings nothing. But nice you call me a pussy from 2000 miles away hiding behind a keyboard

Sure thing BIRTHER.   How's that covid assassination attempt going?  Or the pizzagate arrests?  This is just ANOTHER thread that backfired on your stupid ass.  Won't be the last one though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Actually you do fuckhead. You refuse to read what’s been brought yet you and again, not ANYONE on here, not any politician no one can prove a legit win...NO ONE!! Fuck, you can’t (or Strawman) can’t even defend any of Biden’s policies...er, I mean executive orders. I guaranfuckingtee if I through out a policy you couldn’t defend it.....you or any other Biden “voter” knew what they were voting for unless you’re a Marixist. Stupid people shouldn’t vote...

Actually, I don't.  It isn't my place to prove a negative.  When you prove that unicorns do not exist then I'll play along with your stupidity on the election.  "PROVE IT"     "HAHAHAHAHA"

I guess by your standards, you won't be voting anymore right STUPID?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 11:06:28 AM
There has been more than enough valid (and disturbingly so) evidence presented but the courts have dismissed it.  That is even more alarming. Unless of course those people are dead set on doing away with the Constitution and installing a Constipation, if you will.

That you feel otherwise is indicative of you suffering from being full (i.e. the aforementioned constipation) of shit.  And remember, this little Matrix is NOT the real world.  You should be glad of that.

Oh then please post some then.  Is it really "valid" evidence or the Kraken kind of evidence that "no reasonable person would believe"?
While you are at it, tell us why the courts dismissed it.  Surely not because it was lacking?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2021, 11:10:37 AM
blocking out those I  dis agree with suggests self doubt in my own beliefs
...
...
blocking out those you  dis agree with suggests self doubt in your  own beliefs

Either that or you’re just tired of hearing the same shit day after day. We get it, Straw Man is obsessed with and hates Trump, Goody Goody for Straw Man.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 11:12:05 AM
Either that or you’re just tired of hearing the same shit day after day. We get it, Straw Man is obsessed with and hates Trump, Goody Goody for Straw Man.
Straw Man loves BBC
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 11:12:10 AM
"Your can't defend"?

what exactly is  there to "defend"

It's a statement of fact that MLB pulls All-Star Game from Atlanta in protest of restrictive new voting law

that's called "reality" dipshit

Sorry if you can't deal with it

My comment was that I'm looking forward to watching Trumptards go to war with corporate America

That's me stating that I'm looking forward to watching more of this

what exactly is there to "defend" in any of that and why the fuck are you melting down over it?

Your words asshole... tell why this is good thing? Do you think it’s “racist” to have voter ID like Abrams and the rest of the commie left is suggesting? Going to war with corporate America? Will they go out of business? No, will they take a big hit, most definitely. MLB, Coke, Delta, etc all in bed with China..like you, they never slam China


“I'm looking forward to seeing more of this

Fuck the TRAITOROUS Trumptards

It's going to be fun watching them go to war with corporate America”

And you still can’t define Traitor
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 11:13:18 AM
Your words asshole... tell why this is good thing? Do you think it’s “racist” to have voter ID like Abrams and the rest of the commie left is suggesting? Going to war with corporate America? Will they go out of business? No, will they take a big hit, most definitely. MLB, Coke, Delta, etc all in bed with China..like you, they never slam China
Sort him out Coach ..sort him out. He loves BBC
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2021, 11:17:31 AM
Straw Man loves BBC

He does have a bitchy queen way about him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: ThisisOverload on April 03, 2021, 11:21:06 AM

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.

No he doesn't. He represents the far left group of bleeding vagina liberals.

Not all Dems are like him, not at all. I know a lot of Dems who are good rational people.

Not all Reps are right wing conspiracy theorists like Coach either.

Stop talking in absolutes. The world is not black and white.

SM is very annoying, but it's easy to ignore his biased ramblings and hate speech.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 11:27:10 AM
Your words asshole... tell why this is good thing? Do you think it’s “racist” to have voter ID like Abrams and the rest of the commie left is suggesting? Going to war with corporate America? Will they go out of business? No, will they take a big hit, most definitely. MLB, Coke, Delta, etc all in bed with China..like you, they never slam China


“I'm looking forward to seeing more of this

Fuck the TRAITOROUS Trumptards

It's going to be fun watching them go to war with corporate America”

And you still can’t define Traitor

Are you you REALLY this fucking stupid that I need to explain what is OBVIOUS

OK, here goes. I'll keep it short and simple...just like you

I'm OPPOSED to these laws because they are solely designed to discourage and suppress people from voting.

it's good that TRAITOROUS TRUMPTARDS are getting push back from Corporate America (who have said the exact same thing that I and many others have said about these new laws)

Let's hit them where it hurts...and I look forward to seeing much more of this

You're free to disagree or not like my opinion

I couldn't give a rats ass

Stop whining
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 03, 2021, 11:28:40 AM
A little gasoline for the fire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyA3dFfXMAAgpQ4?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 11:32:58 AM
A little gasoline for the fire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyA3dFfXMAAgpQ4?format=jpg&name=large)

they are called baseless, unwarranted, unfounded, etc.. because THE TRAITOR and his fellow TRAITORS failed to prove they were true

that's how reality works
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 03, 2021, 11:44:20 AM
they are called baseless, unwarranted, unfounded, etc.. because THE TRAITOR and his fellow TRAITORS failed to prove they were true

that's how reality works
::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 11:44:44 AM
A little gasoline for the fire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyA3dFfXMAAgpQ4?format=jpg&name=large)

So the fake news media consists of republican gov'nors, electoral college, lower courts, supreme court, trumpy appointed AG, multiple recounts?

If that is what the fake media says... then what does real media say?  Oh yeah... I forgot... "no reasonable person would believe me"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 12:39:24 PM
Are you you REALLY this fucking stupid that I need to explain what is OBVIOUS

OK, here goes. I'll keep it short and simple...just like you

I'm OPPOSED to these laws because they are solely designed to discourage and suppress people from voting.

it's good that TRAITOROUS TRUMPTARDS are getting push back from Corporate America (who have said the exact same thing that I and many others have said about these new laws)

Let's hit them where it hurts...and I look forward to seeing much more of this

You're free to disagree or not like my opinion

I couldn't give a rats ass

Stop whining

Nope, that’s not an answer, it’s a leftist talking point with no basis. Tell us why YOU think it’s voter suppression to have an ID and signature verification to vote. As with most states, everyone can get legal state ID and you can’t afford it, they will issue you one for free. That being said, Abrams case for saying that it’s “racist” flys right out the window.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 03, 2021, 12:45:39 PM
Nope, that’s not an answer, it’s a leftist talking point with no basis. Tell us why YOU think it’s voter suppression to have an ID and signature verification to vote. As with most states, everyone can get legal state ID and you can’t afford it, they will issue you one for free. That being said, Abrams case for saying that it’s “racist” flys right out the window.

the Georgia legislation is not merely about showing a ID ....fucking moron

Go find a third grader to read this to you: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 12:57:56 PM
So far the score is 14 to stay and 11 go to.  This qualifies this thread to be ANOTHER one that backfired on dumb ass Coach.

Maybe you can rustle up some more GO votes so you can feel better about yourself.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 03, 2021, 01:04:44 PM
Nope, that’s not an answer, it’s a leftist talking point with no basis. Tell us why YOU think it’s voter suppression to have an ID and signature verification to vote. As with most states, everyone can get legal state ID and you can’t afford it, they will issue you one for free. That being said, Abrams case for saying that it’s “racist” flys right out the window.
  :D ID's are racist!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 01:09:41 PM
the Georgia legislation is not merely about showing a ID ....fucking moron

Go find a third grader to read this to you: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html

I said among other things you fucktard but ID and Verification is the lefts biggest bitch

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
What about California? No voter ID or verifications but Newsom sure wants it for his recall...hypocrites
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 01:19:20 PM
You good with this and if you are, why?


https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 01:27:59 PM
He shouldn't be banned, its not like we are talking about shizzo.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 03, 2021, 04:10:12 PM
post some examples


Pretty much every thread you start that I bother to post in.   ;)

I've started to just not post because if I start getting into the real world nuts and bolts of the issue .... you vanish. Waste of time and borders on spam.

I don't want anyone banned on here, btw.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: POB on April 03, 2021, 04:12:52 PM
Nothing to contribute. Lies about everything politics and gets caught. ONLY HERE TO TROLL. My vote is the fucker needs to go. He’s everything wrong with GetBig

Don’t be a baby cause his opinion differs from yours. Like him or not at least he backs or try’s to back up his opinions with articles he’s read
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 04:22:18 PM
16 votes to STAY
11 votes to GO

Come on guys, everyone vote GO!!  Let's get that number up so Coach's miserable ass can sleep easy tonight knowing that there is one less person on this board to shatter his bullshit conspiracy theories and point out how stupid he is.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 03, 2021, 04:31:33 PM
Like most liberals, Straw has shot himself in the foot so many times it's amazing he has something left to put in his mouth. Same with LNM and other twatlings of their kind.  FTN.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 03, 2021, 04:32:45 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 03, 2021, 04:33:16 PM
16 votes to STAY
11 votes to GO

Come on guys, everyone vote GO!!  Let's get that number up so Coach's miserable ass can sleep easy tonight knowing that there is one less person on this board to shatter his bullshit conspiracy theories and point out how stupid he is.
You've reached shizzo levels of annoying.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 04:48:56 PM
You've reached shizzo levels of annoying.

Those tats of yours indicate you reached shizzo levels of stupidity long ago.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 04:51:02 PM
Like most liberals, Straw has shot himself in the foot so many times it's amazing he has something left to put in his mouth. Same with LNM and other twatlings of their kind.  FTN.

Like many Trumpturds, you have whined so much it's amazing you haven't choked on your own salty tears.   But keep on whining I suppose.... not like you can do much else with your life.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 03, 2021, 05:20:17 PM
Like many Trumpturds, you have whined so much it's amazing you haven't choked on your own salty tears.   But keep on whining I suppose.... not like you can do much else with your life.

LOL!  Look boy, you're not remotely capable of exchanging witticisms let alone these sophomoric invectives you regurgitate like  the fur balls from the hacking maw of a castrated Tom cat licking the remembrance of testis long gone.

I may not be smart but you're definitely stoopid.  Out of the barrel, boy.  This isn't the real world and we all know that you are forever grateful for that. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 05:34:15 PM
LOL!  Look boy, you're not remotely capable of exchanging witticisms let alone these sophomoric invectives you regurgitate like  the fur balls from the hacking maw of a castrated Tom cat licking the remembrance of testis long gone.

I may not be smart but you're definitely stoopid.  Out of the barrel, boy.  This isn't the real world and we all know that you are forever grateful for that.

No, you are not smart.  No one has ever thought you were.   The only thing more pathetic than your life is your little attempts at pseudo intellect.  Even that is crippled as well.   The fact you strive so hard to type out word salads in an effort to appear as above room temp in IQ is an indication of the self conscious awareness you have that you are not smart at all.

Perhaps you should stick with the old standbys.  FTN, Typist, Real World, or whatever Genova reference you are awed by at the moment.  Otherwise you only exhibit your proven stupidity with something as you did above. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 05:34:55 PM
Strawman and LurkerNoMore are definitely the kind of knob polishers who join the Lincoln Project
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 05:38:14 PM
Les Girlyman is definitely the kind of Trumpturd that swallowed the fish tablets and sat on the UV wand.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 03, 2021, 05:42:33 PM
No, you are not smart.  No one has ever thought you were.   The only thing more pathetic than your life is your little attempts at pseudo intellect.  Even that is crippled as well.   The fact you strive so hard to type out word salads in an effort to appear as above room temp in IQ is an indication of the self conscious awareness you have that you are not smart at all.

Perhaps you should stick with the old standbys.  FTN, Typist, Real World, or whatever Genova reference you are awed by at the moment.  Otherwise you only exhibit your proven stupidity with something as you did above.

Your slip is showing.  Thanks for the compliments as you are mentally bankrupt you borrow that which you cannot create on your own.  Here.  Allow me to borrow from a friend:

Run along, boy.  I hear your mother calling you.  For seconds.   Out of the barrel cuntlette.  You would not last long in the real world, I assure you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 05:52:37 PM
Your slip is showing.  Thanks for the compliments as you are mentally bankrupt you borrow that which you cannot create on your own.  Here.  Allow me to borrow from a friend:

Run along, boy.  I hear your mother calling you.  For seconds.   Out of the barrel cuntlette.  You would not last long in the real world, I assure you.

Perhaps you can borrow your friend's legs to "run along" with as well. It's the closest you may get.  Your obsession over the real world only indicates your unhappiness with yourself and limitations in it.   Limitations that go beyond the physical and intellectual. 

But there is still GB.  Where you can showcase your dazzling frustrations to the same old audience.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 03, 2021, 06:41:13 PM
If you think differently, then prove him wrong.  Which won't be by the reply above.  Try again.

that was a dig on his gambling problem, not about what he actually said fuckstick.... so sweet of you to defend your libtard girlfriend though.... take his cock out of your mouth and only speak when spoken to... triggered lil bitchboy.. lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2021, 06:46:22 PM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

Good luck with that. Coach is anything but rational. Despite this he probably is a decent person, who is sadly misguided.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2021, 06:53:22 PM
Actually you do fuckhead. You refuse to read what’s been brought yet you and again, not ANYONE on here, not any politician no one can prove a legit win...NO ONE!! Fuck, you can’t (or Strawman) can’t even defend any of Biden’s policies...er, I mean executive orders. I guaranfuckingtee if I through out a policy you couldn’t defend it.....you or any other Biden “voter” knew what they were voting for unless you’re a Marixist. Stupid people shouldn’t vote...

Blah, blah, blah. This record is worn out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 06:58:42 PM
Les Girlyman is definitely the kind of Trumpturd that swallowed the fish tablets and sat on the UV wand.

That was probably a lot funnier in your feeble mind.

Liberals are always so dumb, but I guess that goes with their lying and hypocrisy.

I’d cheer for a more lethal liberal only version of Covid-19.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 03, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
This thread is living, verifiable proof that Strawman owns the ever living shit out of Coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2021, 07:04:16 PM
I actually got as far a page 3 before I quit reading the posts.

Nothing changes. Coach will be coach to the death.

Threads like these are stupid and childish and yet here is another one....almost like clock work. Vote to stay, vote to go, don't care.....utter nonsense. There are a lot of folks here who obviously have nothing worthwhile going on in their lives.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 07:04:33 PM
Good luck with that. Coach is anything but rational. Despite this he probably is a decent person, who is sadly misguided.

You of all people coming on here and criticizing other people?

Only Shizzo is more hated than you.

And you’re a fucking crybaby little bitch who runs to the Moderators and tattles like a 5 year old child.

Fuck off and die you miserable old white trash kunt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 07:09:58 PM
You of all people coming on here and criticizing other people?

Only Shizzo is more hated than you.

And you’re a fucking crybaby little bitch who runs to the Moderators and tattles like a 5 year old child.

Fuck off and die you miserable old white trash kunt.
You mad?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 03, 2021, 07:17:26 PM
Wow - this thread really needs to cry out all its angry

I think I'll leave you guys to it

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:34:58 PM
that was a dig on his gambling problem, not about what he actually said fuckstick.... so sweet of you to defend your libtard girlfriend though.... take his cock out of your mouth and only speak when spoken to... triggered lil bitchboy.. lol

You project a lot of homosexual tendencies. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:36:35 PM
That was probably a lot funnier in your feeble mind.

Liberals are always so dumb, but I guess that goes with their lying and hypocrisy.

I’d cheer for a more lethal liberal only version of Covid-19.

Trumpturd calling someone dumb?  Or a liar?  Or a hypocrite?  The irony. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 07:45:53 PM
This thread is living, verifiable proof that Strawman owns the ever living shit out of Coach.


That’s always been obvious.  Just as obvious as the disappointment is for him that he didn’t get the votes he wanted.

It’s a LANDSLIDE from the GO votes.  Maybe coach will “find the votes he needs” or come up with conspiracy theory. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
I've decided to mail in my mother's vote.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 03, 2021, 07:54:43 PM
 ;D  If we don't have poll integrity then we don't have a website!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 08:23:14 PM
;D  If we don't have poll integrity then we don't have a website!!

Don’t worry, the recount, coin flip, mods, courts, electoral high school, SC, NRA, Lindsey Graham and Jesus himself will validate the votes. 

And coach still won’t believe it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2021, 08:25:10 PM
I've decided to mail in my mother's vote.

Are you Bruce Bartman?  Live in Delaware County?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 08:29:13 PM
Are you Bruce Bartman?  Live in Delaware County?
I have no clue what you are talking about. My brother will be mailing my vote in as well.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 08:33:33 PM
You mad?

Shizzo you dont have the intelligence to troll, you just post from the heart and make a twat of yourself and when people tell you to fuck off you seem to think you have played them, wake up from your drunken haze, its just people telling you to fuck off.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 08:35:27 PM
Trumpturd calling someone dumb?  Or a liar?  Or a hypocrite?  The irony.

Imagine being so stupid that you support the Hiding Joe Biden administration?

Nahhhhh, no human being could possibly be that retarded.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 09:06:00 PM

That’s always been obvious.  Just as obvious as the disappointment is for him that he didn’t get the votes he wanted.

It’s a LANDSLIDE from the GO votes.  Maybe coach will “find the votes he needs” or come up with conspiracy theory.

Maybe you can come up with an explanation as to why in all of the battleground states the vote count abruptly stopped around 10pm the night of the election when Trump was winning by a landslide in EVERY ONE OF THOSE states then the vote count restarted the next morning around 4am? Go ahead. Skate on this as well. This has never happened..

I’ll wait
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 03, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
I think in fairness, if the vote doesn't reach the point where Strawman should leave, it's only right the OP of the challenge leave. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 03, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
Maybe you can come up with an explanation as to why in all of the battleground states the vote count abruptly stopped around 10pm the night of the election when Trump was winning by a landslide in EVERY ONE OF THOSE states then the vote count restarted the next morning around 4am? Go ahead. Skate on this as well. This has never happened..

I’ll wait

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-list-statements-2020-electi/fact-check-list-of-partly-false-statements-on-the-2020-election-idUSKBN27Q2NI
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 09:50:56 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-list-statements-2020-electi/fact-check-list-of-partly-false-statements-on-the-2020-election-idUSKBN27Q2NI

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 09:54:45 PM
I think in fairness, if the vote doesn't reach the point where Strawman should leave, it's only right the OP of the challenge leave.
That's not the way it works. These polls are always tongue and cheek.

Why did your mom get dentures?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 03, 2021, 09:54:57 PM


what was the court result of those claims?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 10:25:16 PM
That's not the way it works. These polls are always tongue and cheek.

Why did your mom get dentures?

Sober up you stupid fuck.

The expression is “tongue in cheek”, you moronic idiot.

Sober up you stupid fuck.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2021, 10:28:05 PM
what was the court result of those claims?

Doesn’t matter if they would have done their jobs and at least allowed fair evidentiary hearings...

My direct question, one on one to someone involved in this when I was in DC was “With all of this evidence why aren’t the courts and especially SCOTUS hearing these cases”

His answer verbatim was “If this wasn’t DC instead of some where like bumfuck South Dakota (as an example) it’s a slam dunk. But this is DC and coercion is everywhere” what he was saying was, judges and even SCOTUS’s were being threatened along with their families. The justices who dissented were not afraid and Robert’s tows the line.

And I’ll reiterate, there is NO WAY on this planet Biden even came close.

I can provide these documents all day and no one can refute it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2021, 10:32:04 PM
Sober up you stupid fuck.

The expression is “tongue in cheek”, you moronic idiot.

Sober up you stupid fuck.
"Tongue and cheek", is how real women give head. You are probably more familiar with "dick in ass".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Automation on April 03, 2021, 11:58:21 PM
Coach, what is your end game here? The election is never going to be re-run. We all know your position on this. Can't see where all this is going to get you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: irishdave on April 04, 2021, 03:09:19 AM
Ban him
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: irishdave on April 04, 2021, 03:10:23 AM
There’s only a few people on this board I’d like to brutalise In a fight and this rob zirulo is at the top of the list
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 04, 2021, 03:24:37 AM
What the deal w Straws dirty yard ? 

Not in favor of banning this place largely regulates itself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:24:16 AM
Imagine being so stupid that you support the Hiding Joe Biden administration?

Nahhhhh, no human being could possibly be that retarded.

Imagine being so stupid you are a Trumpturd. 

Yeahhhh.  You are.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:29:33 AM
I have no clue what you are talking about. My brother will be mailing my vote in as well.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
There’s only a few people on this board I’d like to brutalise In a fight and this rob zirulo is at the top of the list


Maybe if Rob ever returns to the board you can tell him this. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Never1AShow on April 04, 2021, 05:53:34 AM
Basically this poll shows 60% of this board are Schmoes
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:56:09 AM
Jesus rose today!   Unlike the number of votes that dumb ass Coach was hoping for.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: el numero uno on April 04, 2021, 06:28:02 AM
I thought only communists asked for censorship, Coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 07:13:50 AM
Ill bet my life... that straw, lurker, agnostic, prime would NEVER run their mouths like they do here, on the street... its easy when you are behind a keyboard... there are 100 million examples of these warriors all over the place... have any of you called someone a trumptard or bashed them to their face like you do to guys here?  ever go to a trump rally and pop off?  ever go to a far right protest or a gun rights rally and spout the insults you do here? FUCK NO is the answer....and its obvious why you havent...  i want to change my vote to "stay"... let him keep representing all of you cowards.. he is exactly what you deserve and have earned... happy easter gb.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 07:17:48 AM
"Tongue and cheek", is how real women give head. You are probably more familiar with "dick in ass".

Five big differences between us:

You faked your death for attention
You sucked a cock for money
You are fat
You are an alcoholic
My Mother is alive
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 04, 2021, 08:06:11 AM
Ill bet my life... that straw, lurker, agnostic, prime would NEVER run their mouths like they do here, on the street... its easy when you are behind a keyboard... there are 100 million examples of these warriors all over the place... have any of you called someone a trumptard or bashed them to their face like you do to guys here?  ever go to a trump rally and pop off?  ever go to a far right protest or a gun rights rally and spout the insults you do here? FUCK NO is the answer....and its obvious why you havent...  i want to change my vote to "stay"... let him keep representing all of you cowards.. he is exactly what you deserve and have earned... happy easter gb.


Of course they wouldn't. No one is popping-off anywhere they are outnumbered and there is the threat of violence. Would you pop-off if you were outnumbered 1000 to 1? Doesn't matter if you're left or right.

As far as Coach vs the liberals on this forum, Coach is not winning any debates, let's be fair. And I despise the liberal ideology. There are good arguments coming from the right but Coach can't make them.

Coach says he "knows" at least 50% of Biden's votes were fraudulent. I'm sorry but "knowing" without evidence isn't good enough. I doubt even Trump would say 50% of Biden's votes were fake. Trump just says he won "by a lot."

The argument those on the right should be making is highligthing the media bias, the propaganda, since media basically decides how people think to a very large degree. As many thinkers both on the left and right know, the masses aren't really "thinkers," they just react according to various inputs. The "fake votes" angle is obviously going nowhere.   
If the right wing were let loose on the internet things could be different in society. Censorship is one of the big issues of out day. The right is just as much for censorship as the left too.  Coach wants to censor Straw Man.

People on both sides of the spectrum are easily manipulated. Look at Coach and his talking points on China.

And I realise I may be manipulated as well.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:11:35 AM
Ill bet my life... that straw, lurker, agnostic, prime would NEVER run their mouths like they do here, on the street... its easy when you are behind a keyboard... there are 100 million examples of these warriors all over the place... have any of you called someone a trumptard or bashed them to their face like you do to guys here?  ever go to a trump rally and pop off?  ever go to a far right protest or a gun rights rally and spout the insults you do here? FUCK NO is the answer....and its obvious why you havent...  i want to change my vote to "stay"... let him keep representing all of you cowards.. he is exactly what you deserve and have earned... happy easter gb.

You would lose that bet because I would.  So why not just shut the fuck up and stop whining so much. 
No one gives a fuck what your inbred chihuahua ass thinks. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:15:50 AM

Of course they wouldn't. No one is popping-off anywhere they are outnumbered and there is the threat of violence. Would you pop-off if you were outnumbered 1000 to 1? Doesn't matter if you're left or right.

As far as Coach vs the liberals on this forum, Coach is not winning any debates, let's be fair. And I despise the liberal ideology. There are good arguments coming from the right but Coach can't make them.

Coach says he "knows" at least 50% of Biden's votes were fraudulent. I'm sorry but "knowing" without evidence isn't good enough. I doubt even Trump would say 50% of Biden's votes were fake. Trump just says he won "by a lot."

The argument those on the right should be making is highligthing the media bias, the propaganda, since media basically decides how people think to a very large degree. As many thinkers both on the left and right know, the masses aren't really "thinkers," they just react according to various inputs. The "fake votes" angle is obviously going nowhere.   
If the right wing were let loose on the internet things could be different in society. Censorship is one of the big issues of out day. The right is just as much for censorship as the left too.  Coach wants to censor Straw Man.

People on both sides of the spectrum are easily manipulated. Look at Coach and his talking points on China.

And I realise I may be manipulated as well.

The fact his examples were all places and events with numerous people shows that he is a flat out sissy ass coward in real life.

He talks shit but that is all he can do.  He would have never made a thread like this himself.   He’s too scared.  That’s why he’s regulated to running around yapping at Straws ankles like the little bitch he is.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: residue on April 04, 2021, 09:16:40 AM
Nothing to contribute. Lies about everything politics and gets caught. ONLY HERE TO TROLL. My vote is the fucker needs to go. He’s everything wrong with GetBig

soooo, you want him cancelled cuz his words irk you?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 09:21:31 AM
You would lose that bet because I would.  So why not just shut the fuck up and stop whining so much. 
No one gives a fuck what your inbred chihuahua ass thinks.

Wow, a Getbig tough guy!

I will bet you’re as tough as XFactor was rich.

Limp wristed twink.

I’m certain you started dating Strawman when he was “at his lowest and you were at your neediest.”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:29:35 AM
Wow, a Getbig tough guy!

I will bet you’re as tough as XFactor was rich.

Limp wristed twink.

I’m certain you started dating Strawman when he was “at his lowest and you were at your neediest.”

Another gay projection from you.  Come out of the closet already. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 09:37:14 AM
Another gay projection from you.  Come out of the closet already.

Calm down Caitlyn, you might break a nail.

I’m now positive that you’re a twink sucker of cocks. Basically you’re Primemuscle without the age spots.

Phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 09:48:23 AM
The fact his examples were all places and events with numerous people shows that he is a flat out sissy ass coward in real life.

He talks shit but that is all he can do.  He would have never made a thread like this himself.   He’s too scared.  That’s why he’s regulated to running around yapping at Straws ankles like the little bitch he is.

In all of travels and you find yourself in Huntington Beach, hit me up since I’m a bitch. Don’t just talk, do it guy...I’m not hard to find. I don’t hide like you
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2021, 09:48:49 AM
Another gay projection from you.  Come out of the closet already.
Still trolling getbig for dates, LurkerNotStraight?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 09:51:00 AM
Still trolling getbig for dates, LurkerNotStraight?

LurkingHomo frantically trying to find the thread where the soggy old queer’s contact information was posted.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:52:03 AM
Calm down Caitlyn, you might break a nail.

I’m now positive that you’re a twink sucker of cocks. Basically you’re Primemuscle without the age spots.

Phaggot.

It’s not that your posts give off a you-fancy-the-cock type of vibe.  It’s a vibe more like you are one meltdown down away from being caught in a cheap hotel with a crack pipe and underage male hooker.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:52:34 AM
Still trolling getbig for dates, LurkerNotStraight?

Still with Hillary cankles convict?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 09:54:03 AM
In all of travels and you find yourself in Huntington Beach, hit me up since I’m a bitch. Don’t just talk, do it guy...I’m not hard to find. I don’t hide like you

You won’t do shit except whine and post about it.  As if a midget with a heart attack and stroke is anything to worry about.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 09:55:57 AM

Of course they wouldn't. No one is popping-off anywhere they are outnumbered and there is the threat of violence. Would you pop-off if you were outnumbered 1000 to 1? Doesn't matter if you're left or right.

As far as Coach vs the liberals on this forum, Coach is not winning any debates, let's be fair. And I despise the liberal ideology. There are good arguments coming from the right but Coach can't make them.

Coach says he "knows" at least 50% of Biden's votes were fraudulent. I'm sorry but "knowing" without evidence isn't good enough. I doubt even Trump would say 50% of Biden's votes were fake. Trump just says he won "by a lot."

The argument those on the right should be making is highligthing the media bias, the propaganda, since media basically decides how people think to a very large degree. As many thinkers both on the left and right know, the masses aren't really "thinkers," they just react according to various inputs. The "fake votes" angle is obviously going nowhere.   
If the right wing were let loose on the internet things could be different in society. Censorship is one of the big issues of out day. The right is just as much for censorship as the left too.  Coach wants to censor Straw Man.

People on both sides of the spectrum are easily manipulated. Look at Coach and his talking points on China.

And I realise I may be manipulated as well.

Beg to differ. Presenting evidence in multiple threads with literally nothing for them to come back with except name calling and insults is winning the debate. But they’re not debating and since they get their asses handed to them, lurker and straw are getting hostile. Why are they getting hostile? 1. They’re behind a keyboard 2. They have nothing to present their claims except what the left tells them.

Simple as that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 09:57:32 AM
You won’t do shit except whine and post about it.  As if a midget with a heart attack and stroke is anything to worry about.

Oh no, brother. We’ll fucking video it and plaster it on here. Say the word. You know where I live, you know what I look like.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
Calm down Caitlyn, you might break a nail.

I’m now positive that you’re a twink sucker of cocks. Basically you’re Primemuscle without the age spots.

Phaggot.

Excellent choice of words.  It made me laugh and that is exactly what I need.  Thanks!


It’s not that your posts give off a you-fancy-the-cock type of vibe.  It’s a vibe more like you are one meltdown down away from being caught in a cheap hotel with a crack pipe and underage male hooker.

You've heard that there's two sides to every coin?  Well, there is also an edge to every coin.   Rarely does a coin land on it's edge and even then will  ultimately fall on it's side.  This is what we have here.   LNM tries hard to read as "edgy" and without fail (to date, mind you) falls over with the bottom (appropriately so) side up. 

It's said that it "takes one to know one" and I am reading "special education' in his typing.  ;D     Perhaps he feels he is self-deprecating but in truth he is more self-defecating.  LNM?  That means you shit yourself with nigh on every post.  Sybil.  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 10:08:29 AM
Coach, what is your end game here? The election is never going to be re-run. We all know your position on this. Can't see where all this is going to get you.

I guess to show that people didn’t realize what they voted for, not Patriots and hate their country. It’s become cliche’ but it’s true, they hated Trump more than loved this country and now we’re seeing the country sink at a record pace. Those with businesses (like myself) knew this would happen the second Biden got nominated.

The executive orders that were signed were rubber stamped with zero thought put into it. Sign it and let the chips fall where they may and too hell with the country. On one side of Biden’s mouth he was to control the country by using the Chinavirus as an excuse but on the other you have migrants being let into the country with at least 10% testing positive.

Long story short, stupid people shouldn’t vote. We have bypassed socialism right into communism and yes, that can be proven as well
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 10:15:32 AM
Excellent choice of words.  It made me laugh and that is exactly what I need.  Thanks!


You've heard that there's two sides to every coin?  Well, there is also an edge to every coin.   Rarely does a coin land on it's edge and even then will  ultimately fall on it's side.  This is what we have here.   LNM tries hard to read as "edgy" and without fail (to date, mind you) falls over with the bottom (appropriately so) side up. 

It's said that it "takes one to know one" and I am reading "special education' in his typing.  ;D     Perhaps he feels he is self-deprecating but in truth he is more self-defecating.  LNM?  That means you shit yourself with nigh on every post.  Sybil.  ;)

^^ evidence you are mentally crippled as well as physically. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 10:16:27 AM
Oh no, brother. We’ll fucking video it and plaster it on here. Say the word. You know where I live, you know what I look like.

 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 04, 2021, 10:24:41 AM
Doesn’t matter if they would have done their jobs and at least allowed fair evidentiary hearings...

My direct question, one on one to someone involved in this when I was in DC was “With all of this evidence why aren’t the courts and especially SCOTUS hearing these cases”

His answer verbatim was “If this wasn’t DC instead of some where like bumfuck South Dakota (as an example) it’s a slam dunk. But this is DC and coercion is everywhere” what he was saying was, judges and even SCOTUS’s were being threatened along with their families. The justices who dissented were not afraid and Robert’s tows the line.

And I’ll reiterate, there is NO WAY on this planet Biden even came close.

I can provide these documents all day and no one can refute it

You friends opinion is irrelevant. It's also utterly ridiculous. The 60+ court cases didn't occur in a D.C. bubble. At least 5 states were involved and all came to the same conclusion. He is basically saying that because the results weren't to his liking there must be some diabolical reason. So out pops the "SCOTUS' were afraid for their lives" conspiracy claim with no evidence. I'm not surprised you thought this was somehow support of your wild claims, you have consistently put forth claims that either are so ridiculous no one considers them plausible or they have already been examined and repeatedly shown to be unfounded.  That you even today continue to make the claim you've proven widespread fraud is a testament to the level of your brainwashing and limitations when it comes to critical thinking.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: anabolicguru on April 04, 2021, 10:27:30 AM
I guess to show that people didn’t realize what they voted for, not Patriots and hate their country. It’s become cliche’ but it’s true, they hated Trump more than loved this country and now we’re seeing the country sink at a record pace. Those with businesses (like myself) knew this would happen the second Biden got nominated.

The executive orders that were signed were rubber stamped with zero thought put into it. Sign it and let the chips fall where they may and too hell with the country. On one side of Biden’s mouth he was to control the country by using the Chinavirus as an excuse but on the other you have migrants being let into the country with at least 10% testing positive.

Long story short, stupid people shouldn’t vote. We have bypassed socialism right into communism and yes, that can be proven as well

you claim you love this country, but what did you do to serve this country, Did you serve in the military? NO  Did you run for office? NO  Did you ever work with the government? Did you even help storm into the capitol to "take back control"? NO.   All you do is talk a big game, and make these post over and over again.  Less talking, more doing, cause we get it, you have plenty of free time to read articles and post on getbig and make tshirts.  stop talking about all these problems and start actually doing something. hope this helps
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 10:31:25 AM
You friends opinion is irrelevant. It's also utterly ridiculous. The 60+ court cases didn't occur in a D.C. bubble. At least 5 states were involved and all came to the same conclusion. He is basically saying that because the results weren't to his liking there must be some diabolical reason. So out pops the "SCOTUS' were afraid for their lives" conspiracy claim with no evidence. I'm not surprised you thought this was somehow support of your wild claims, you have consistently put forth claims that either are so ridiculous no one considers them plausible or they have already been examined and repeatedly shown to be unfounded.  That you even today continue to make the claim you've proven widespread fraud is a testament to the level of your brainwashing and limitations when it comes to critical thinking.  :)

Do you think those retards will understand that?  If logic and reality existed to them then they wouldn’t be Trumpturds. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
you claim you love this country, but what did you do to serve this country, Did you serve in the military? NO  Did you run for office? NO  Did you ever work with the government? Did you even help storm into the capitol to "take back control"? NO.   All you do is talk a big game, and make these post over and over again.  Less talking, more doing, cause we get it, you have plenty of free time to read articles and post on getbig and make tshirts.  stop talking about all these problems and start actually doing something. hope this helps

I didn’t serve but that doesn’t mean I don’t love this country. How do you know what haven’t done? Lol

What I’m not doing is destroying it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 04, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Do you think those retards will understand that?  If logic and reality existed to them then they wouldn’t be Trumpturds.
Golden, coming from a libtard.  Logic and reality?  You must be kidding.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Golden, coming from a libtard.  Logic and reality?  You must be kidding.

Well, this is literally the context of all of his posts...so
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 04, 2021, 11:24:26 AM

Long story short, stupid people shouldn’t vote. We have bypassed socialism right into communism and yes, that can be proven as well



The US is something but it can't be said to be communism, I don't think. How is the US communist? Rhetorical question as you never explain your positions. I doubt you know much about socialism or Marxism either (not saying I'm an expert).
I'm sure you have some socialist views as well, you just don't know it. Yes they sell these socialist utopian ideals to the little man but in practise the US is hardly communist.

I'm not trying to diss you, like I said I dislike the current clown world. But objectively speaking these liberals are running circles around you in this back and forth. Your instincts are good, they align more with mine but you can't argue worth a shit.

I'm on Team Right, and most of the forum is as well, but do you guys think Coach is winning debates or argues well? Anyone feel he proved election theft?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
You friends opinion is irrelevant. It's also utterly ridiculous. The 60+ court cases didn't occur in a D.C. bubble. At least 5 states were involved and all came to the same conclusion. He is basically saying that because the results weren't to his liking there must be some diabolical reason. So out pops the "SCOTUS' were afraid for their lives" conspiracy claim with no evidence. I'm not surprised you thought this was somehow support of your wild claims, you have consistently put forth claims that either are so ridiculous no one considers them plausible or they have already been examined and repeatedly shown to be unfounded.  That you even today continue to make the claim you've proven widespread fraud is a testament to the level of your brainwashing and limitations when it comes to critical thinking.  :)

Actually he does have evidence. Very little has been examined since there were no evidentiary hearings.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 11:36:28 AM


The US is something but it can't be said to be communism, I don't think. How is the US communist? Rhetorical question as you never explain your positions. I doubt you know much about socialism or Marxism either (not saying I'm an expert).
I'm sure you have some socialist views as well, you just don't know it. Yes they sell these socialist utopian ideals to the little man but in practise the US is hardly communist.

I'm not trying to diss you, like I said I dislike the current clown world. But objectively speaking these liberals are running circles around you in this back and forth. Your instincts are good, they align more with mine but you can't argue worth a shit.

I'm on Team Right, and most of the forum is as well, but do you guys think Coach is winning debates or argues well? Anyone feel he proved election theft?

I’m not saying we’re in communism...yet but the policies being laid out by the left tells its heading that way. Attempts to strip us of our first and 2a rights, conservative censorship, attempts to defund and attack our PD’s, changing our voting systems, attempts to fully take over our healthcare systems, education, etc. I could go on
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 04, 2021, 11:39:03 AM
Golden, coming from a libtard.  Logic and reality?  You must be kidding.

Wouldn't you say liberals can be logical, if you have their ideals?

A lot of times liberals are right, for example in that Trump lied constantly. We all know it, he lied and exaggerated in every sentence. We overlooked it because he represented certain ideals and certain people, the underlying message was correct. He represented whites and their interests, whites certainly thought so, the liberals were kinda right. Of course Trump couldn't say it outright.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
Golden, coming from a libtard.  Logic and reality?  You must be kidding.

I’m not. The fact you think I am is typical of a Trumpturd.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 11:48:02 AM
Well, this is literally the context of all of his posts...so

Reality and logic as opposed to non stop whining, bullshit articles and conspiracy theories that make up yours. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 04, 2021, 11:49:52 AM
I’m not saying we’re in communism...yet but the policies being laid out by the left tells its heading that way. Attempts to strip us of our first and 2a rights, conservative censorship, attempts to defund and attack our PD’s, changing our voting systems, attempts to fully take over our healthcare systems, education, etc. I could go on

But these policies are features of other ideologies as well. That's why some conservatives talk about creeping fascism instead. People are confused as to what the hell this is.
Power has been moved to corporations, conservative, capitalist and libertarian ideals have been turned on the people. I know pellius, who is conservative, argues that Facebook and twitter are within their rights to ban content they don't like. This is a "conservative" talking point. Coach, do you think silencing of Trump on social media was right and should be legal? If not, why not? I would bet you don't think this is an easy question to solve if you are honest

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 11:50:37 AM
Reality and logic as opposed to non stop whining, bullshit articles and conspiracy theories that make up yours.

Four years of conspiracy theories and you fell for everyone hook, line and sinker
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 04, 2021, 11:51:18 AM
I’m not. The fact you think I am is typical of a Trumpturd.
Sure you aren't.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 11:58:13 AM


The US is something but it can't be said to be communism, I don't think. How is the US communist? Rhetorical question as you never explain your positions. I doubt you know much about socialism or Marxism either (not saying I'm an expert).
I'm sure you have some socialist views as well, you just don't know it. Yes they sell these socialist utopian ideals to the little man but in practise the US is hardly communist.

I'm not trying to diss you, like I said I dislike the current clown world. But objectively speaking these liberals are running circles around you in this back and forth. Your instincts are good, they align more with mine but you can't argue worth a shit.

I'm on Team Right, and most of the forum is as well, but do you guys think Coach is winning debates or argues well? Anyone feel he proved election theft?

What has been happening for quite some time is the making of the USA into "Animal Farm".  The pigs (dems and faux reps) despised President Trump for his love of our Nation and her citizens, therefor I have zero doubt that the past election was rigged for Biden to win and America lose.

We the People are not plow horses but that is what these pigs think of us and want us to be, i.e., their slaves.  There is no doubt that this is Orwell's "Animal Farm" and I like to think that We the People will rise up and throw the swine out.   

Straw and LMN are swine and as Orwell said they feeeeel that "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Need examples?  Allow me...Pedophiles are (ironic, is it not?) being "groomed" along with transexuals, especially so the M2F that want to compete against real women, for forced societal "exceptance" (think about what that spelling denotes you foul demwits) and yet another of the dems collection of idiots protected under what I have termed the "Endangered Feces Act".

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 04, 2021, 12:07:29 PM
Actually he does have evidence. Very little has been examined since there were no evidentiary hearings.
false

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-courts-election/fact-check-courts-have-dismissed-multiple-lawsuits-of-alleged-electoral-fraud-presented-by-trump-campaign-idUSKBN2AF1G1

But I suppose Reuters is now a fake news source...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 04, 2021, 12:09:30 PM
Ill bet my life... that straw, lurker, agnostic, prime would NEVER run their mouths like they do here, on the street... its easy when you are behind a keyboard... there are 100 million examples of these warriors all over the place... have any of you called someone a trumptard or bashed them to their face like you do to guys here?  ever go to a trump rally and pop off?  ever go to a far right protest or a gun rights rally and spout the insults you do here? FUCK NO is the answer....and its obvious why you havent...  i want to change my vote to "stay"... let him keep representing all of you cowards.. he is exactly what you deserve and have earned... happy easter gb.

Personally, I've never said anything here I wouldn't say to anyone's face.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 12:14:10 PM
false

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-courts-election/fact-check-courts-have-dismissed-multiple-lawsuits-of-alleged-electoral-fraud-presented-by-trump-campaign-idUSKBN2AF1G1

But I suppose Reuters is now a fake news source...

Methinks Reuters doth squeal too much. 

As to the courts and their jesters, I find nothing of justice, but rather Just Us.  Ticks on a dog.  Do not care for my words? Neither do you care for true Justice.  Some LEO are indeed pigs but of the Orwellian kind.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 04, 2021, 12:19:25 PM
false

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-courts-election/fact-check-courts-have-dismissed-multiple-lawsuits-of-alleged-electoral-fraud-presented-by-trump-campaign-idUSKBN2AF1G1

But I suppose Reuters is now a fake news source...


You think Reuters is an objective news source?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: anabolicguru on April 04, 2021, 12:20:04 PM
I didn’t serve but that doesn’t mean I don’t love this country. How do you know what haven’t done? Lol

What I’m not doing is destroying it

So you are saying you haven't done anything for this country except "live for yourself".   I served 4 years and the majority of my family works for the law enforcement.  Making a tshirt with a flag charging $30 doesn't count, nether does entering a masters bodybuilding comp.  If i believe in half of your crazy conspiracies, you bet I would have done something about it other than complain and complain on a forum.

IN before you claim this poll was rigged
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 04, 2021, 12:53:39 PM

Pretty much every thread you start that I bother to post in.   ;)

I've started to just not post because if I start getting into the real world nuts and bolts of the issue .... you vanish. Waste of time and borders on spam.

I don't want anyone banned on here, btw.

more excuses

post specific examples to support your claim or STFU

Also, I don't sit on this board all day long looking for yours or anyone else posts

I post on here solely for my own entertainment when and if I feel like it

If you don't like it...tough titties

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 01:01:09 PM
Four years of conspiracy theories and you fell for everyone hook, line and sinker

No, but with you we have had eight years of fake birth certificate, pizzagate, etc... 
Dumb little fuck.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 01:02:25 PM
Sure you aren't.

More evidence of that Trumpturd thinking.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 01:04:35 PM
Personally, I've never said anything here I wouldn't say to anyone's face.

The only people who think others wouldn’t are sissy ass piss ants like himself.  He’s scared so he thinks everyone is. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 01:07:33 PM
What has been happening for quite some time is the making of the USA into "Animal Farm".  The pigs (dems and faux reps) despised President Trump for his love of our Nation and her citizens, therefor I have zero doubt that the past election was rigged for Biden to win and America lose.

We the People are not plow horses but that is what these pigs think of us and want us to be, i.e., their slaves.  There is no doubt that this is Orwell's "Animal Farm" and I like to think that We the People will rise up and throw the swine out.   

Straw and LMN are swine and as Orwell said they feeeeel that "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Need examples?  Allow me...Pedophiles are (ironic, is it not?) being "groomed" along with transexuals, especially so the M2F that want to compete against real women, for forced societal "exceptance" (think about what that spelling denotes you foul demwits) and yet another of the dems collection of idiots protected under what I have termed the "Endangered Feces Act".

Perhaps you should go back to “borrowing” from your friend.  Less bullshit.
Speaking of animals,  the lame and crippled are usually excluded from the herd.  Which explains your online presence here so much. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 01:09:47 PM
Perhaps you should go back to “borrowing” from your friend.  Less bullshit.
Speaking of animals,  the lame and crippled are usually excluded from the herd.  Which explains your online presence here so much.

Hiya Porky.  You have no idea of reality.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 01:40:15 PM
false

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-courts-election/fact-check-courts-have-dismissed-multiple-lawsuits-of-alleged-electoral-fraud-presented-by-trump-campaign-idUSKBN2AF1G1

But I suppose Reuters is now a fake news source...

When I said “He” has evidence you had no idea who I was talking about because I never mentioned a name.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 01:42:56 PM
Hiya Porky.  You have no idea of reality.

The reality is your family simply uses GB to babysit you and get you off their hands for a while.  That’s where the constant “real world” comments come from.  Seeing how it’s a sore point for you.  Now try again with another pseudo intellect attempt.   Maybe a Genova reference.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Automation on April 04, 2021, 01:54:13 PM
I guess to show that people didn’t realize what they voted for, not Patriots and hate their country. It’s become cliche’ but it’s true, they hated Trump more than loved this country and now we’re seeing the country sink at a record pace. Those with businesses (like myself) knew this would happen the second Biden got nominated.

The executive orders that were signed were rubber stamped with zero thought put into it. Sign it and let the chips fall where they may and too hell with the country. On one side of Biden’s mouth he was to control the country by using the Chinavirus as an excuse but on the other you have migrants being let into the country with at least 10% testing positive.

Long story short, stupid people shouldn’t vote. We have bypassed socialism right into communism and yes, that can be proven as well

Not sure a niche site like this is a great vehicle for getting a message across, especially when threads just descend into ad hominem attacks. Certainly, no one here is changing their opinion on this topic.

I’m sure there are more productive ways to create the change you want to see in America.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 04, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
The reality is your family simply uses GB to babysit you and get you off their hands for a while.  That’s where the constant “real world” comments come from.  Seeing how it’s a sore point for you.  Now try again with another pseudo intellect attempt.   Maybe a Genova reference.

Given your history here and elsewhere, I'd say you are far more lame than I am, boy.  Like I said, you have no idea of reality.  If ever we met, you would have no inkling of it.  There are a few here I have met and they were unaware.  At times I find it hard to believe you're sentient. 

The real world is coming for you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2021, 02:06:23 PM
Wow - this thread really needs to cry out all its angry

I think I'll leave you guys to it

(http://media.giphy.com/media/vxdpsQNMFLT3RuMeYX/giphy.gif)

Good move. I may join you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:06:52 PM


Well, he was built better than me.  He was still an odd one according to a niece of his with whom I have been friends with for years.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2021, 02:10:52 PM
I've decided to mail in my mother's vote.

Have you read about the woman in Texas who is facing 5 years in jail for illegally voting? You might want to think twice before you do that. Since midterms are ways out yet....it gives you plenty of time for contemplation.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2021, 02:11:57 PM
Don’t worry, the recount, coin flip, mods, courts, electoral high school, SC, NRA, Lindsey Graham and Jesus himself will validate the votes. 

And coach still won’t believe it.

Unfortunately, you are probably right about this.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 02:12:18 PM
So you are saying you haven't done anything for this country except "live for yourself".   I served 4 years and the majority of my family works for the law enforcement.  Making a tshirt with a flag charging $30 doesn't count, nether does entering a masters bodybuilding comp.  If i believe in half of your crazy conspiracies, you bet I would have done something about it other than complain and complain on a forum.

IN before you claim this poll was rigged

That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’ve volunteered and served I both local and GOP campaigns since 2012 - 2020. Since 2016 (no, I’m not Latino) I’ve served both Nationally and locally for “Latino’s for Trump” in a small capacity. For 2022 as it is now, I’ll be serving in hopefully a larger capacity for second amendment advocacy as well American Sportsmen. Like most, I have and had family in the military as well as law enforcement, my grandfather served both in WWII and was law in law enforcement.

I train (tactical) 3-4 days per week with both (of course I’m a civilian) special ops, former Seals members as well as some law enforcement. This being said, it’s a real shame that law enforcement aren’t better trained especially in firearms with some not knowing basic terminology, proper breaches and cover.

As far as my business. Yeah, I sell $30 tee shirts...with portions of profits going to Cops for Causes, Wounded Warrior Project as well as the Gary Sinise Foundation.

This is my way of contributing. People such as those on the left who Continually shit on our military and shit on our law-enforcement are in fact anti-American they hate this country they hate what it stands for. 

And by the way thank you for your service
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:15:47 PM
Don’t worry, the recount, coin flip, mods, courts, electoral high school, SC, NRA, Lindsey Graham and Jesus himself will validate the votes. 

And coach still won’t believe it.

Let's keep your illegal gardener out of this, butthead.  I hope you Covid up and die. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Given your history here and elsewhere, I'd say you are far more lame than I am, boy.  Like I said, you have no idea of reality.  If ever we met, you would have no inkling of it.  There are a few here I have met and they were unaware.  At times I find it hard to believe you're sentient. 

The real world is coming for you.

Real world... real world..

Yeah most are unaware of you because a crippled old fart doesn’t attract attention.  Or anything else for that matter.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:21:47 PM
Real world... real world..

Yeah most are unaware of you because a crippled old fart doesn’t attract attention.  Or anything else for that matter.

I truly hope you Covid.  The only way you wouldn't is if it's survival of the shittest.  That which you fear awaits you and your kind.  You cannot win at that which is not a game, boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:22:37 PM
Let's keep your illegal gardener out of this, butthead.  I hope you Covid up and die.

You will be pushing up daisies long before I do.  Just the way nature intended.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:25:04 PM
I truly hope you Covid.  The only way you wouldn't is if it's survival of the shittest.  That which you fear awaits you and your kind.  You cannot win at that which is not a game, boy.
.

Transference is a bitch isn’t it?   By your own rule you will croak long before I do. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:26:56 PM
You will be pushing up daisies long before I do.  Just the way nature intended.

I've been dead.  No a big deal really.   You've already met Haysus!  Oh wait...Did you backup over your gardener and he got up three days later?  Go ax him what awaits your sorry ass.  As said elsewhere reality will swallow what passes for your licentious  soul and shit you out the Devi's anus.  And then comes the flush of eternity, boy.

You!  Out of the barrel now!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:28:28 PM
.

Transference is a bitch isn’t it?   By your own rule you will croak long before I do.

That's it?  You really are a fucked up moron, boy. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 04, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
&t=28s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
I've been dead.  No a big deal really.   You've already met Haysus!  Oh wait...Did you backup over your gardener and he got up three days later?  Go ax him what awaits your sorry ass.  As said elsewhere reality will swallow what passes for your licentious  soul and shit you out the Devi's anus.  And then comes the flush of eternity, boy.

You!  Out of the barrel now!

You are struggling here.  Every time you attempt to overcome your lack of intellect with some pseudo word salad you end up looking dumber.   Hard to believe it’s possible but you succeed.   Try again. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
That's it?  You really are a fucked up moron, boy.

That’s it.  It is a fact.  Facts are quite simple.  Except for Trumpturds.  But that’s your problem not mine. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
You won’t do shit except whine and post about it.
Neither will you, as evidenced in the last 5 years, LittleBitch. :-*
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:48:10 PM
Neither will you, as evidenced in the last 5 years, LittleBitch. :-*

Says Conehead The Convict.  Who's been doing it since 2008.   ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2021, 02:48:59 PM
Says Conehead The Convict.  Who's been doing it since 2008.   ::)
Liar.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2021, 02:49:32 PM
Maybe you can come up with an explanation as to why in all of the battleground states the vote count abruptly stopped around 10pm the night of the election when Trump was winning by a landslide in EVERY ONE OF THOSE states then the vote count restarted the next morning around 4am? Go ahead. Skate on this as well. This has never happened..

I’ll wait

Post your sources, Coach.

This claim has been debunked over and over again, which you will undoubtedly deny because only your sources are valid ones ....everyone else is lying.  ::)

Just a few highlights.

Here's what Reuters and many others have reported.

The posts start with a paragraph saying that after “Trump led in all the battleground states by large margins,” Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada all “for some unexplainable reason” took a pause for three hours, leading to voter fraud.

Opposition to your claims:

1. Wisconsin did not stop counting on election night. Meagan Wolfe, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, can be heard saying at the 1:18 minute mark: “Our municipal and county clerks have worked tirelessly throughout the night to make sure that every valid ballot has been counted and reported accurately.”

2. Michigan did not stop counting ballots. Tracy Wimmer, director of media relations for the Michigan Secretary of State, said: "At no point has the counting process stopped since it began at 7 a.m. yesterday morning (Nov. 3)

3. Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the state elections board, said: “North Carolina stopped counting votes on election night because there were no more votes to count that night” and added: “With very few exceptions, North Carolina’s election results will not change until November 12 or 13, when all mail-in ballots are received and counted by each county.”

4. The Nevada Secretary of State released a statement explaining that the state did not stop counting ballots and that the “counting of ballots is ongoing and will continue until every cast ballot is counted.”

5. Al Schmidt, Philadelphia City commissioner responsible for elections and voter registration, tweeted at 3am (0800 GMT) on Nov. 4: “Philadelphia will NOT stop counting ALL legitimate votes cast by eligible voters. And we will report and report and report until the last vote is counted”

Just a little logic thrown in:

Trump discouraged his voters from mailing in their ballots....this didn't help with his vote count. Democrats very frequently vote by mail. In many states where there was/is vote by mail those votes were counted last.
Note: if other states adopted Oregon's voting laws, where all votes are mail-in but must be there by midnight on election day it would resolve the issue of which votes are counted when.

Trump led in rural counties all over the country. Those counts come in early. Why? because there are far fewer votes to count. Metropolitan areas where their are thousands or even millions more votes to count tend to vote democratic.

 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:49:47 PM
Liar.

Filt!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:51:53 PM
That’s it.  It is a fact.  Facts are quite simple.  Except for Trumpturds.  But that’s your problem not mine.

Imitation is one of two things.  It's either the sincerest form of flattery or a necessity.  In your case and given your inability to express yourself above the level of a 12 year old male, I'd say it's the latter.

Toddle on, boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 02:52:05 PM
Post your sources, Coach.

This claim has been debunked over and over again, which you will undoubtedly deny because only your sources are valid ones ....everyone else is lying.  ::)

Just a few highlights.

Here's what Reuters and many others have reported.

The posts start with a paragraph saying that after “Trump led in all the battleground states by large margins,” Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada all “for some unexplainable reason” took a pause for three hours, leading to voter fraud.

Opposition to your claims:

1. Wisconsin did not stop counting on election night. Meagan Wolfe, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, can be heard saying at the 1:18 minute mark: “Our municipal and county clerks have worked tirelessly throughout the night to make sure that every valid ballot has been counted and reported accurately.”

2. Michigan did not stop counting ballots. Tracy Wimmer, director of media relations for the Michigan Secretary of State, said: "At no point has the counting process stopped since it began at 7 a.m. yesterday morning (Nov. 3)

3. Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the state elections board, said: “North Carolina stopped counting votes on election night because there were no more votes to count that night” and added: “With very few exceptions, North Carolina’s election results will not change until November 12 or 13, when all mail-in ballots are received and counted by each county.”

4. The Nevada Secretary of State released a statement explaining that the state did not stop counting ballots and that the “counting of ballots is ongoing and will continue until every cast ballot is counted.”

5. Al Schmidt, Philadelphia City commissioner responsible for elections and voter registration, tweeted at 3am (0800 GMT) on Nov. 4: “Philadelphia will NOT stop counting ALL legitimate votes cast by eligible voters. And we will report and report and report until the last vote is counted”

Just a little logic thrown in:

Trump discouraged his voters from mailing in their ballots....this didn't help with his vote count. Democrats very frequently vote by mail. In many states where there was/is vote by mail those votes were counted last.
Note: if other states adopted Oregon's voting laws, where all votes are mail-in but must be there by midnight on election day it would resolve the issue of which votes are counted when.

Trump led in rural counties all over the country. Those counts come in early. Why? because there are far fewer votes to count. Metropolitan areas where their are thousands or even millions more votes to count tend to vote democratic.

Reuters is right up there with the AP...Thanks for playing
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 02:52:34 PM
What is wrong with some of you people (both sides)?
Grown ass men literally so angry that they are on the verge of tears.

Technology and social media have turned already troubled people into political lunatics.

One of the biggest problems we have in society.

Subversive from within.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:54:56 PM
What is wrong with some of you people (both sides)?
Grown ass men literally so angry that they are on the verge of tears.

Technology and social media have turned already troubled people into political lunatics.

One of the biggest problems we have in society.

Subversive from within.

Do not mistake disgust with anger.  Adults such as Conservatives, express disgust.  The cuckolded set merely squeals their anger in the manner that befits their impotence and their stature as Owellian piglets.

I trust you understand this?  Do not play the fool where it is unwarranted, young man.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 02:56:21 PM
Imitation is one of two things.  It's either the sincerest form of flattery or a necessity.  In your case and given your inability to express yourself above the level of a 12 year old male, I'd say it's the latter.

Toddle on, boy.

^^ more overreaching in an attempt to say something but as usual... saying nothing.  But it's ok, we know your limitations are as much intellectual as they are physical.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 02:58:30 PM

^^ more overreaching in an attempt to say something but as usual... saying nothing.  But it's ok, we know your limitations are as much intellectual as they are physical.

The viper defanged, by its very nature will still attempt to strike.  PIOL.   Barrel baby, indeed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:00:23 PM
Post your sources, Coach.

This claim has been debunked over and over again, which you will undoubtedly deny because only your sources are valid ones ....everyone else is lying.  ::)

Just a few highlights.

Here's what Reuters and many others have reported.

The posts start with a paragraph saying that after “Trump led in all the battleground states by large margins,” Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada all “for some unexplainable reason” took a pause for three hours, leading to voter fraud.

Opposition to your claims:

1. Wisconsin did not stop counting on election night. Meagan Wolfe, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, can be heard saying at the 1:18 minute mark: “Our municipal and county clerks have worked tirelessly throughout the night to make sure that every valid ballot has been counted and reported accurately.”

2. Michigan did not stop counting ballots. Tracy Wimmer, director of media relations for the Michigan Secretary of State, said: "At no point has the counting process stopped since it began at 7 a.m. yesterday morning (Nov. 3)

3. Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the state elections board, said: “North Carolina stopped counting votes on election night because there were no more votes to count that night” and added: “With very few exceptions, North Carolina’s election results will not change until November 12 or 13, when all mail-in ballots are received and counted by each county.”

4. The Nevada Secretary of State released a statement explaining that the state did not stop counting ballots and that the “counting of ballots is ongoing and will continue until every cast ballot is counted.”

5. Al Schmidt, Philadelphia City commissioner responsible for elections and voter registration, tweeted at 3am (0800 GMT) on Nov. 4: “Philadelphia will NOT stop counting ALL legitimate votes cast by eligible voters. And we will report and report and report until the last vote is counted”

Just a little logic thrown in:

Trump discouraged his voters from mailing in their ballots....this didn't help with his vote count. Democrats very frequently vote by mail. In many states where there was/is vote by mail those votes were counted last.
Note: if other states adopted Oregon's voting laws, where all votes are mail-in but must be there by midnight on election day it would resolve the issue of which votes are counted when.

Trump led in rural counties all over the country. Those counts come in early. Why? because there are far fewer votes to count. Metropolitan areas where their are thousands or even millions more votes to count tend to vote democratic.

Meaningless since it doesn't fit the  narrative in Coach's empty head.

Thing is, he keeps blaming the Dems for "stealing" the election...  HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yet it was Republican controlled governments, governors, election officials, lower court judges, SC majority, AG, and others that actually validated and confirmed the results.  Sounds like the Repubs did more to steal the election for Biden than any Dem did.   :D

Coach is the Melissa Carone of GB.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 03:01:43 PM
Do not mistake disgust with anger.  Adults such as Conservatives, express disgust.  The cuckolded set merely squeals their anger in the manner that befits their impotence and their stature as Owellian piglets.

I trust you understand this?  Do not play the fool where it is unwarranted, young man.
I'm saying that there are many confirmed morons that occupy both the right and the left.

Shit, they might force people to vote independent in the near future.

Then again, that would be the poor bastard who would probably get assassinated.

God forbid someone runs for office with no political affiliation. That's just crazy talk.

But it's what we need.
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 03:02:51 PM
Meaningless since it doesn't fit the  narrative in Coach's empty head.

Thing is, he keeps blaming the Dems for "stealing" the election...  HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yet it was Republican controlled governments, governors, election officials, lower court judges, SC majority, AG, and others that actually validated and confirmed the results.  Sounds like the Repubs did more to steal the election for Biden than any Dem did.   :D

Coach is the Melissa Carone of GB.

Keep gummin', boy.  I dub thee "Gumby".   At once both effete and ineffectual.   You're Gumby, dammit!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:03:51 PM
The viper defanged, by its very nature will still attempt to strike.  PIOL.   Barrel baby, indeed.

A meaningless strike means nothing.  Just like your posts.  I'm surprised that you abandoned the Covid death hopes for me so fast.  I figured it was good for another two pages.  I guess you realized the truth is that you are a higher risk to die from Covid (and waxed floors) than I am.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
Keep gummin', boy.  I dub thee "Gumby".   At once both effete and ineffectual.   You're Gumby, dammit!

Swing and miss, "Dumby". 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 03:05:51 PM
I'm saying that there are many confirmed morons that occupy both the right and the left.

Shit, they might force people to vote independent in the near future.

Then again, that would be the poor bastard who would probably get assassinated.

God forbid someone runs for office with no political affiliation. That's just crazy talk.

But it's what we need.

We have already experienced what we need.  President Trump was under the Republican banner but was for America and her citizens.  That he was this is why the dems and faux repubs squealed against him.  They feeeeeeeeeel they are more equal than those that make this nation great. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 03:07:55 PM
Swing and miss, "Dumby".

I never miss. Gumby.  You have been defanged, boy.  I and others shall chide you for the cuckolded asshole you are.  Covid take you, boy.  The Devil's anus awaits you! LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 03:09:32 PM
Meaningless since it doesn't fit the  narrative in Coach's empty head.

Thing is, he keeps blaming the Dems for "stealing" the election...  HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yet it was Republican controlled governments, governors, election officials, lower court judges, SC majority, AG, and others that actually validated and confirmed the results.  Sounds like the Repubs did more to steal the election for Biden than any Dem did.   :D

Coach is the Melissa Carone of GB.

Shut up stupid. I’ve posted the proof not just in this thread but since Nov
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 04, 2021, 03:13:54 PM


The US is something but it can't be said to be communism, I don't think. How is the US communist? Rhetorical question as you never explain your positions. I doubt you know much about socialism or Marxism either (not saying I'm an expert).
I'm sure you have some socialist views as well, you just don't know it. Yes they sell these socialist utopian ideals to the little man but in practise the US is hardly communist.

I'm not trying to diss you, like I said I dislike the current clown world. But objectively speaking these liberals are running circles around you in this back and forth. Your instincts are good, they align more with mine but you can't argue worth a shit.

I'm on Team Right, and most of the forum is as well, but do you guys think Coach is winning debates or argues well? Anyone feel he proved election theft?


The key component of capitalism is the price system. Yet, in the U.S you have a Central Planning Agency, The Federal Reserve, which has complete control over the most important market price: the price of money.

That said, the United States is not a pure socialist economy because of the large private sector but there are large swaths of it that are highly intervened, like the healthcare and education systems which not surprisingly are highly inefficient.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:14:53 PM
I never miss. Gumby.  You have been defanged, boy.  I and others shall chide you for the cuckolded asshole you are.  Covid take you, boy.  The Devil's anus awaits you! LOL!

You missed by a mile Dumby. 

Now true to form, you will continue posting different nonsense in an attempt to get some traction going for your transference and projections. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 03:15:44 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:16:19 PM
Shut up stupid. I’ve posted the proof not just in this thread but since Nov

Proof that is nothing more than lies, false info, and outright CTs.  The thread "More Fraud" which blew up in your face as well (like this one) is evidence of why you have no credibility.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 03:17:18 PM
https://www.wnd.com/2020/11/great-election-night-pause-vote-counting/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/

It was Gods Will.   Are you saying God is wrong?

God and the Republicans gave this election to Biden.  Tears aren't going to help.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 03:23:07 PM
You would lose that bet because I would.  So why not just shut the fuck up and stop whining so much. 
No one gives a fuck what your inbred chihuahua ass thinks.

but you HAVENT.... you pussy.. if you are ever heading to buffalo ny,  you feel free and give me the heads up here on getbig.... just name the time and place coward... you will regret it for the rest of your sorry ass life... thats a reality you dont want... try me... please.... where do you live? i travel quite often, itd be my pleasure to meet you if i happen to come anywhere close to that city during one of my vacations.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:25:38 PM
but you HAVENT.... you pussy.. if you are ever heading to buffalo ny,  you feel free and give me the heads up here on getbig.... just name the time and place coward... you will regret it for the rest of your sorry ass life... thats a reality you dont want... try me... please.... where do you live? i travel quite often, itd be my pleasure to meet you if i happen to come anywhere close to that city during one of my vacations.

 ::)

I live in South FL.  Come on down and back it up.   Or continue yapping like bitch.   ::)

Now continue with the tough guy talk.  It’s really the only option you got.   Bitch.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 03:28:24 PM
but you HAVENT.... you pussy.. if you are ever heading to buffalo ny,  you feel free and give me the heads up here on getbig.... just name the time and place coward... you will regret it for the rest of your sorry ass life... thats a reality you dont want... try me... please.... where do you live? i travel quite often, itd be my pleasure to meet you if i happen to come anywhere close to that city during one of my vacations.
Buffalo? That explains a few things.
Are you on depression medication? How many Toby Keith albums do you own?

Why do I think that you have put more than just a boot up people's asses.....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 04, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
SET IT UP!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 03:29:58 PM
::)

I live in South FL.  Come on down and back it up.   Or continue yapping like bitch.   ::)

Now continue with the tough guy talk.  It’s really the only option you got.   Bitch.

ill be in siesta key... july 6-18... where do you live? what city? let me know how real you want this to get.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
Reuters is right up there with the AP...Thanks for playing

I invited you to provide your source. You didn't. I said you would discount any source I provided. You did.

Did you read the Reuters article.....it links to tons of other sources all of which you will no doubt insist that their information is fake.

In your mind everyone else is wrong or crazy, but not you. You are the only sane one.....I think you know how the rest of that goes. I'll send you supplements and slivered almonds you when they put you in the mental ward.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 03:31:18 PM
Buffalo? That explains a few things.
Are you on depression medication? How many Toby Keith albums do you own?

Why do I think that you have put more than just a boot up people's asses.....

fuck off you fat slob... nobody is talking to you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:37:12 PM
ill be in siesta key... july 6-18... where do you live? what city? let me know how real you want this to get.

I'm in Ft Lauderdale.  So July is 3 months away. 3 months to hear your tough talk and then excuses for not showing up.  Gotcha. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 03:42:05 PM
I'm in Ft Lauderdale.  So July is 3 months away. 3 months to hear your tough talk and then excuses for not showing up.  Gotcha.

no im done talking... do you know where lauderdale by the sea is?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 04, 2021, 03:44:15 PM
I invited you to provide your source. You didn't. I said you would discount any source I provided. You did.

Did you read the Reuters article.....it links to tons of other sources all of which you will no doubt insist that their information is fake.

In your mind everyone else is wrong or crazy, but not you. You are the only sane one.....I think you know how the rest of that goes. I'll send you supplements and slivered almonds you when they put you in the mental ward.

I did. Stats’s and all. You have me a Reuters article
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:45:16 PM
no im done talking... do you know where lauderdale by sea is?


Naw man, I live in Ft Lauderdale right next to it but don't know where it is.   ::)

So when July comes, you just let me know which day you will bring your inept little ass over.  No more talk.  Next mention better be a date when your bitch ass will be here.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 03:45:59 PM
I did. Stats’s and all. You have me a Reuters article

That's a hell of a lot more than Epoch articles you love.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 04, 2021, 03:47:33 PM

Naw man, I live in Ft Lauderdale right next to it but don't know where it is.   ::)

So when July comes, you just let me know which day you will bring your inept little ass over.  No more talk.  Next mention better be a date when your bitch ass will be here.

Video or it never happened. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 03:52:32 PM
fuck off you fat slob... nobody is talking to you.
Why am I sensing that the majority of Getbig accounts reside in Europe and Canada? You can't hide language tendencies. They always come out in the end. Like Pellius.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 03:56:52 PM

Naw man, I live in Ft Lauderdale right next to it but don't know where it is.   ::)

So when July comes, you just let me know which day you will bring your inept little ass over.  No more talk.  Next mention better be a date when your bitch ass will be here.

ill be down on that coast on business with 2 of my partners at the end august for a couple days...thats where ill be staying.. like i said, you let me know how real you want it.... you shouldnt fuck with people son... you never know who they really are... or worse, what they used to be.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 04:04:20 PM
ill be down on that coast on business with 2 of my partners at the end august for a couple days...thats where ill be staying.. like i said, you let me know how real you want it.... you shouldnt fuck with people son... you never know who they really are... or worse, what they used to be.

Ohhhh I am so scared.   ::)

It can be as real as you want.  Just show up first.   I'm sure you will send me or ORM your flight info so everyone knows you are actually coming.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 04:13:14 PM
Ohhhh I am so scared.   ::)

It can be as real as you want.  Just show up first.   I'm sure you will send me or ORM your flight info so everyone knows you are actually coming.

ill drop you a pm when im there... you can bet on it... dont worry itll be no ones business but ours... im not looking for gb props by any means or to prove anything to anyone... whatever happens wont be made public by me.. you have my word on that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 04:25:33 PM
ill drop you a pm when im there... you can bet on it... dont worry itll be no ones business but ours... im not looking for gb props by any means or to prove anything to anyone... whatever happens wont be made public by me.. you have my word on that.

What's the fucking point then?  As Soul Crusher said "video or it never happened".  I, for one, definitely plan to let the board see how a bitch gets dealt with.  You have my word on THAT.  Make no mistake, I have never said anything on here that I wouldn't say to someone to their face.  If they don't like it, they can always try to do something about it. 

Don't worry, I won't be inviting you to a "rally" or party or any other place of 1000 people against 1 like you insinuated with me in the earlier post. 

When you make your travel plans, PM the info to ORM. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 04, 2021, 04:32:44 PM
When I said “He” has evidence you had no idea who I was talking about because I never mentioned a name.

You didn't even say "he has evidence" you just said he thought X.... and who he is is irrelevant and certainly a dyed in the wool Trump supporter which already means he's likely spouting the same nonsense you are. Again, I have Republican election officials, Republican local and state judges, Trump appointed US AG, State Supreme Courts and SCOTUS backing my position. You have a bunch of debunked claims like "courts didn't consider the evidence" for your argument. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tatoo on April 04, 2021, 04:35:55 PM
What's the fucking point then?  As Soul Crusher said "video or it never happened".  I, for one, definitely plan to let the board see how a bitch gets dealt with.  You have my word on THAT.  Make no mistake, I have never said anything on here that I wouldn't say to someone to their face.  If they don't like it, they can always try to do something about it. 

Don't worry, I won't be inviting you to a "rally" or party or any other place of 1000 people against 1 like you insinuated with me in the earlier post. 

When you make your travel plans, PM the info to ORM.

you do what you have to then... the next words out of your mouth when addressing me (not typed here),  will be "im sorry"... 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 04:37:52 PM
This back and forth is more laughable than a wrestling storyline.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 04:56:36 PM
you do what you have to then... the next words out of your mouth when addressing me (not typed here),  will be "im sorry"...

Pretty sure they won't be. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
What's the fucking point then?  As Soul Crusher said "video or it never happened".  I, for one, definitely plan to let the board see how a bitch gets dealt with.  You have my word on THAT.  Make no mistake, I have never said anything on here that I wouldn't say to someone to their face.  If they don't like it, they can always try to do something about it. 

Don't worry, I won't be inviting you to a "rally" or party or any other place of 1000 people against 1 like you insinuated with me in the earlier post. 

When you make your travel plans, PM the info to ORM.

Hahahahahahaha...in real life LurkingHomo is a cross between Shizzo and Jason Genova.

You couldn’t beat your dad’s meat, phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Phantom Spunker on April 04, 2021, 05:00:03 PM
ill be down on that coast on business with 2 of my partners at the end august for a couple days...thats where ill be staying.. like i said, you let me know how real you want it.... you shouldnt fuck with people son... you never know who they really are... or worse, what they used to be.

(https://acegif.com/wp-content/gif/terrified-3.gif)

This thread is great, lol.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:01:47 PM
Hahahahahahaha...in real life LurkingHomo is a cross between Shizzo and Jason Genova.

You couldn’t beat your dad’s meat, phaggot.

Another gay reference from you?  Not surprising Girlyman.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 04, 2021, 05:09:15 PM
OMR needs to be the Logistics to coordinate this since he once dealt w setting up a get big fight in Florida as most of us famously remember.   ;D :D ;D ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 04, 2021, 05:13:34 PM
Another gay reference from you?  Not surprising Girlyman.

LOL.

LurkingHomo you remind me of a weaker, more feminine version of True Adonis.

Except TA was only a little bit homosexual.

You twink phaggot. Why don’t you impress us all with a tall tale of what you used to be?

Twink phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: wes on April 04, 2021, 05:21:48 PM
I never dealt with Straw Man cuz I`m not into politics................ ........but he should be ran out of here on a rail after being tarred and feathered !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 04, 2021, 05:32:30 PM
I never dealt with Straw Man cuz I`m not into politics................ ........but he should be ran out of here on a trail after being tarred and feathered !!  LOL  ;D

The politics page is evidence and proof of what severe TDS looks like.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 05:44:57 PM
LOL.

LurkingHomo you remind me of a weaker, more feminine version of True Adonis.

Except TA was only a little bit homosexual.

You twink phaggot. Why don’t you impress us all with a tall tale of what you used to be?

Twink phaggot.

Homosexual obsession meltdown.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2021, 05:46:53 PM
I got $20 on tatoo.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
I never dealt with Straw Man cuz I`m not into politics................ ........but he should be ran out of here on a trail after being tarred and feathered !!  LOL  ;D

IF anyone here knows what that feels like it would be...Ummmm...Wellllll... You know...The really old guys here.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2021, 05:52:23 PM
The politics page is evidence and proof of what severe TDS looks like.
Still. Months after the election was stolen.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 04, 2021, 05:53:14 PM
I got $20 on tatoo.

One of the lessons I've learned in my decades of life is that while no one really knows what to expect from someone they've never met they had best keep in mind that some people don't give a shit what to expect.  I've been beaten up lots of times.  :o  It's not fun, I can assure you. 

If I felt it were fun I'd probably...Nah.  Make that I'd definitely be like Straw and LNM, i.e., a registered Democrap.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 04, 2021, 05:57:01 PM
Multiple personalities are currently running amuck..... :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2021, 06:22:59 PM
One of the lessons I've learned in my decades of life is that while no one really knows what to expect from someone they've never met they had best keep in mind that some people don't give a shit what to expect.  I've been beaten up lots of times.  :o  It's not fun, I can assure you. 

If I felt it were fun I'd probably...Nah.  Make that I'd definitely be like Straw and LNM, i.e., a registered Democrap.  ;D

 ::)

You get your ass kicked everyday by life in general.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 04, 2021, 10:45:48 PM
I thought only communists asked for censorship, Coach.


(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnpleasantUnlawfulDrever-small.gif)


 :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 05, 2021, 04:09:08 AM
A 10 page thread about Straw.

He must be loving it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 05, 2021, 04:11:22 AM
A 10 page thread about Straw.

He must be loving it.

What’s the deal w the filthy lawn people are saying he has ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 05, 2021, 04:39:37 AM
Just shows the tolerance level of Getbig that we voted for Strawman to stay despite all of his miserable defects💪
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 05, 2021, 04:59:15 AM
A 10 page thread about Straw.

He must be loving it.
   exactly, great thread my takeaway from all this is strawman should be made a Mod. the death match between lurker and tatoo should be a PPV event. coach should be put in charge of trump's 2024 campaign.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 05, 2021, 05:04:58 AM
Ha! Good ideas Funk.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 05, 2021, 05:15:04 AM
What’s the deal w the filthy lawn people are saying he has ?

It’s Trump’s fault.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 05, 2021, 06:58:31 AM
I have a question for Coach and everyone else who thinks the election was stolen, whatever form that steal took.

If they were able to steal this election, what hope is there that conservatives will ever win again? Realistically.
What is the game plan Coach? Things like "Latinos for Trump?" Really? Those tens of millions of illegals who will now be made citizens, will they tend to vote conservative or democrat? What kind of politics does Latin America have?

Is this smart conservative strategy?



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 07:01:43 AM
I have a question for Coach and everyone else who thinks the election was stolen, whatever form that steal took.

If they were able to steal this election, what hope is there that conservatives will ever win again? Realistically.
What is the game plan Coach? Things like "Latinos for Trump?" Really? Those tens of millions of illegals who will now be made citizens, will they tend to vote conservative or democrat? What kind of politics does Latin America have?

Is this smart conservative strategy?

A better question is why did the Republican election officials, court appointed lower judges, SC majority, VP and AG actually allow that steal to happen?  If it was so blatantly stolen, why did their own party participate in the theft?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 05, 2021, 07:24:04 AM
A better question is why did the Republican election officials, court appointed lower judges, SC majority, VP and AG actually allow that steal to happen?  If it was so blatantly stolen, why did their own party participate in the theft?

Yes.

If Coach is correct, that Biden got AT LEAST 40 million fake votes then conseratives will NEVER win again. All these efforts to change opinions can never compensate for 40 million fake votes. All of Coach's volunteering is useless, especially since his own party participated in the steal. You would have to replace 99% of Republican politicians AND find new politicians who aren't the same old type. Good luck.

Of course no one serious believes in 40 million fake votes except Coach and crazy Sydney. Not even Trump.

Is there anyone else here who thinks at least 50% of Biden votes were fake?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 07:36:26 AM
Yes.

If Coach is correct, that Biden got AT LEAST 40 million fake votes then conseratives will NEVER win again. All these efforts to change opinions can never compensate for 40 million fake votes. All of Coach's volunteering is useless, especially since his own party participated in the steal. You would have to replace 99% of Republican politicians AND find new politicians who aren't the same old type. Good luck.

Of course no one serious believes in 40 million fake votes except Coach and crazy Sydney. Not even Trump.

Is there anyone else here who thinks at least 50% of Biden votes were fake?
Maybe having a King wasn't so bad after all.

Remember, America has only been around a few hundred years.

Pearl Harbour happened.

America, is just as vulnerable today.

But I believe, we may be as blind as they were then.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 05, 2021, 08:45:47 AM
If enough people are capable of believing the absurd, in this case that Joe Biden was elected rather than (s)elected, then it is also possible that these same people are weak enough to believe that being white is a crime against humanity.  That being wealthy is a crime against humanity.  That being simply a man or woman and not something "fluid" is a crime against humanity.  That being a pedophile is just another variation on the theme of what is sexually possible, natural, desirable and even worse, "acceptable".   That "cancel culture" is about being "inclusive" rather than abusive.

The zeitgeist of anything goes needs to go.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 05, 2021, 09:31:30 AM
I have a question for Coach and everyone else who thinks the election was stolen, whatever form that steal took.

If they were able to steal this election, what hope is there that conservatives will ever win again? Realistically.
What is the game plan Coach? Things like "Latinos for Trump?" Really? Those tens of millions of illegals who will now be made citizens, will they tend to vote conservative or democrat? What kind of politics does Latin America have?

Is this smart conservative strategy?

I'd call it a soft steal. There was a concerted, 4 year propaganda campaign against Trump. Anything bad got megaphoned, while anything good got ignored. It was more than just partisan or unfair. They bludgeoned us daily. Pravda has nothing on the US press. I've never seen bias like that. The script writing was blatant and has left me without any faith in the information I receive.

Then add to that Old Joe being basically led by the hand into the Oval Office by a media that gushed endlessly about how wonderful this Great Oz (whom we never see) and his Veep (who got no love in her primaries) are going to save us all... somehow uniting...even tho actual policies rarely got mentioned. I understand Coach's incredulity. I agree. There's no way with this guy. But it happened. He got installed.


My own view, that Trump is an idiot, I formed from watching him flounder at the podium, but I'd take his policies over Biden's any day. I differ with Coach that it was a 'hard steal' in the sense that Trump actually won on votes. Trump has had plenty of time to present evidence straight to the public. They said repeatedly that they have it and it just never materializes. By materialize, I mean Donald Trump, at a podium with charts built from verifiable data, saying "Here it is." They promised nothing less. If he had it, that is exactly what he'd be doing every day.

Fwiw I don't believe it's as simple as "The Socialist Commies want to take over." Yes, they exist and they want to but then Bernie is the guy, right? He got shoved out twice. Probably because he's actually a socialist who would try to use government power to steer corporate power, which is backwards. And I liked what Tulsi had to say but somebody sure didn't. All that crazy talk about no more American soldiers dying in pointless wars

Who wants business as usual? Who wants endless wars and a court rubber-stamped surveillance state?  Who demands a nice marionette President and Presidentette instead of this jackass who people follow instead of following directions? Yeah, I think there are entrenched interests and they mean business about staying in power. They would have Kennedyed him if he wasn't more useful as a heel.

That's what I saw happen. A freak out. People didn't follow directions in 2016 and this egomaniacal wild man got in. Then we got to see the carrot and stick machine kick into high gear. Divide and corral. Deify and vilify. Churn out the consent of the governed to get things "back on track." Bet your ass there are contingencies to make sure this sort of thing never ever happens again.

The guy was right. It's a swamp. But it'll never let you drain it. The world got stolen out from under us before any of us were even born. Life is good but let's not kid ourselves that there's democracy. You might get a Republican again, and they'll do the 'ol Grant Your Little Wish thing so you'll agree they're in charge but you'll never get someone who isn't a puppet. I don't think Donald was one. Anyone who isn't going to play ball, you have their entire political career to see them coming but Trump managed to fly in on a perfect storm of Hillary's complete lack of charisma, Wikileaks, celebrity worship, soundbyte culture, and working class angst. It scared the bejesus out of them.

TLDR
Did Trump win? No.
Would he have won? Yes.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
I have a question for Coach and everyone else who thinks the election was stolen, whatever form that steal took.

If they were able to steal this election, what hope is there that conservatives will ever win again? Realistically.
What is the game plan Coach? Things like "Latinos for Trump?" Really? Those tens of millions of illegals who will now be made citizens, will they tend to vote conservative or democrat? What kind of politics does Latin America have?

Is this smart conservative strategy?

BINGO....like communist and socialist countries, rig the elections systems so the opposition can never win again. When Trump ran his promise was to “drain the swamp” and go after China. You go after China you disrupt the swamp. The “Swamp” didn’t want the status quo for decades disrupted and along comes an outsider, a non politician. Almost since the day his campaign started they knew he would trouble for the establishment and for four years while they made up conspiracy theories of all sorts while the MSM went along with it. The political left got ZERO done in those four except to look ahead 2020. Everything they threw at his was debunked right down to the fake impeachment’s and even today they’re still afraid of him which is he’s still in the headlines today. 

As for the courts? The “60” losses were not Trump lawyers but other attorneys/firms working pro Bono. Trump’s actual hired attorneys weren’t in court nearly that much.

BUT, most of the courts where those attorneys appeared were in front of Obama appointed attorneys and attorneys where Soros bought off the courts. Even in the local elections where I’m at, Soros money was involved funding the left.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
Trump lost.   Get over it.  Either the Dems got more votes or the Repubs kicked him to the curb.  Either way, it was decided he had to go. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 09:40:44 AM
BINGO....like communist and socialist countries, rig the elections systems so the opposition can never win again. When Trump ran his promise was to “drain the swamp” and go after China. You go after China you disrupt the swamp. The “Swamp” didn’t want the status quo for decades disrupted and along comes an outsider, a non politician. Almost since the day his campaign started they knew he would trouble for the establishment and for four years while they made up conspiracy theories of all sorts while the MSM went along with it. The political left got ZERO done in those four except to look ahead 2020. Everything they threw at his was debunked right down to the fake impeachment’s and even today they’re still afraid of him which is he’s still in the headlines today. 

As for the courts? The “60” losses were not Trump lawyers but other attorneys/firms working pro Bono. Trump’s actual hired attorneys weren’t in court nearly that much.

BUT, most of the courts where those attorneys appeared were in front of Obama appointed attorneys and attorneys where Soros bought off the courts. Even in the local elections where I’m at, Soros money was involved funding the left.
Coach,

Coach.....I can't even broach this subject as a normal Getibigger.

Dude, are you ok?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 09:52:09 AM
Drain the swamp?   Hahahaha.  The only swamp draining that got done was when his cronies were indicted. 

He’s in the headlines post election because he keeps crying about losing, having his foundation investigated, stealing from his campaign donors, having his tax records seized, his lying associates hit with billion dollar lawsuits, being blamed for a pitiful ass insurrection attempts (or just kissing and hugging the cops as he claims), and being ridiculed in his ongoing misery. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 09:53:48 AM
Drain the swamp?   Hahahaha.  The only swamp draining that got done was when his cronies were indicted.

Calm down Alice, your revered leftists have been outed. Troll. Fucking bring something to the table, pussy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 09:55:26 AM
Trump lost.   Get over it.  Either the Dems got more votes or the Repubs kicked him to the curb.  Either way, it was decided he had to go.

And doesn’t matter how he “lost” as long as long he lost...right, commie?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2021, 09:57:07 AM
I'd call it a soft steal. There was a concerted, 4 year propaganda campaign against Trump. Anything bad got megaphoned, while anything good got ignored. It was more than just partisan or unfair. They bludgeoned us daily. Pravda has nothing on the US press. I've never seen bias like that. The script writing was blatant and has left me without any faith in the information I receive.

Then add to that Old Joe being basically led by the hand into the Oval Office by a media that gushed endlessly about how wonderful this Great Oz (whom we never see) and his Veep (who got no love in her primaries) are going to save us all... somehow uniting...even tho actual policies rarely got mentioned. I understand Coach's incredulity. I agree. There's no way with this guy. But it happened. He got installed.


My own view, that Trump is an idiot, I formed from watching him flounder at the podium, but I'd take his policies over Biden's any day. I differ with Coach that it was a 'hard steal' in the sense that Trump actually won on votes. Trump has had plenty of time to present evidence straight to the public. They said repeatedly that they have it and it just never materializes. By materialize, I mean Donald Trump, at a podium with charts built from verifiable data, saying "Here it is." They promised nothing less. If he had it, that is exactly what he'd be doing every day.

Fwiw I don't believe it's as simple as "The Socialist Commies want to take over." Yes, they exist and they want to but then Bernie is the guy, right? He got shoved out twice. Probably because he's actually a socialist who would try to use government power to steer corporate power, which is backwards. And I liked what Tulsi had to say but somebody sure didn't. All that crazy talk about no more American soldiers dying in pointless wars

Who wants business as usual? Who wants endless wars and a court rubber-stamped surveillance state?  Who demands a nice marionette President and Presidentette instead of this jackass who people follow instead of following directions? Yeah, I think there are entrenched interests and they mean business about staying in power. They would have Kennedyed him if he wasn't more useful as a heel.

That's what I saw happen. A freak out. People didn't follow directions in 2016 and this egomaniacal wild man got in. Then we got to see the carrot and stick machine kick into high gear. Divide and corral. Deify and vilify. Churn out the consent of the governed to get things "back on track." Bet your ass there are contingencies to make sure this sort of thing never ever happens again.

The guy was right. It's a swamp. But it'll never let you drain it. The world got stolen out from under us before any of us were even born. Life is good but let's not kid ourselves that there's democracy. You might get a Republican again, and they'll do the 'ol Grant Your Little Wish thing so you'll agree they're in charge but you'll never get someone who isn't a puppet. I don't think Donald was one. Anyone who isn't going to play ball, you have their entire political career to see them coming but Trump managed to fly in on a perfect storm of Hillary's complete lack of charisma, Wikileaks, celebrity worship, soundbyte culture, and working class angst. It scared the bejesus out of them.

TLDR
Did Trump win? No.
Would he have won? Yes.

Great writeup, and the first two paragraphs are gold.

One nuance, Bernie wasn't pushed out becuase he's a socialist/communist, he was pushed out because he couldn't win a national election.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
And doesn’t matter how he “lost” as long as long he lost...right, commie?

He lost by the voters
He lost by the recount
He lost by the lower courts
He lost by the electoral college
He lost by the Supreme Court
He lost by the VP and AG. 

Take your pick   He lost.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 10:00:22 AM
Drain the swamp?   Hahahaha.  The only swamp draining that got done was when his cronies were indicted.
Hey asshole, you are an equal part of todays problem.

Two sides of a coin. Three sides to a story....

Get my drift yet? Red/Blue doesn't work.

Isn't this a forum? I have a strange feeling that some powerful people, peruse this wonderful website.

I want some smart people to come to a simple solution.

Complicated by greed and primal urges.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 05, 2021, 10:02:08 AM
On second thought, never say never. All those Trump voters who were fed up with establishment politicians are still out there.

It doesn't get more puppet than Biden. Only 5 million would have to switch. Between the border and bombing Syria, 5 million might switch right now. Anything could happen in '24.

Trump won't be back but he opened the door to people the system didn't promote up.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 10:05:48 AM
He lost by the voters
He lost by the recount
He lost by the lower courts
He lost by the electoral college
He lost by the Supreme Court
He lost by the VP and AG. 

Take your pick   He lost.

You can’t read much less comprehend, can you? Yep, he lost and Biden and his administration are MUCH worse than anticipated which is why you can’t defend any of the executive orders or policies that’s trying to be put through
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 10:08:43 AM
Hey asshole, you are an equal part of todays problem.

Two sides of a coin. Three sides to a story....

Get my drift yet? Red/Blue doesn't work.

Isn't this a forum? I have a strange feeling that some powerful people, peruse this wonderful website.

I want some smart people to come to a simple solution.

Complicated by greed and primal urges.

You admittedly don’t even vote, loser.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 10:09:15 AM
On second thought, never say never. All those Trump voters who were fed up with establishment politicians are still out there.

It doesn't get more puppet than Biden. Only 5 million would have to switch. Between the border and bombing Syria, 5 million might switch right now. Anything could happen in '24.

Trump won't be back but he opened the door to people the system didn't promote up.

I personally don’t want him to run again
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2021, 10:09:48 AM
On second thought, never say never. All those Trump voters who were fed up with establishment politicians are still out there.

It doesn't get more puppet than Biden. Only 5 million would have to switch. Between the border and bombing Syria, 5 million might switch right now. Anything could happen in '24.

Trump won't be back but he opened the door to people the system didn't promote up.

I have seen two polls that state that 35-40% of Biden voters were unaware of the allegations against his on prior to the election (fits perfect with your soft steal narrative).

Of those surveyed, 9% would have changed their votes.  That's 3 million right there.

Generally, with these surveys I find the source and did into the data they provide....admittedly haven't done that yet...but did see this poll quoted in the Post this weekend.

But he hopefully won't run again...I doubt he will.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 10:10:40 AM
You can’t read much less comprehend, can you? Yep, he lost and Biden and his administration are MUCH worse than anticipated which is why you can’t defend any of the executive orders or policies that’s trying to be put through

I don’t have to defend anything.  It’s not my place to cater to your whining and delusions. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 10:12:00 AM
For all the Trumpturds crying about the election being stolen.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
You admittedly don’t even vote, loser.
That's why my opinion has weight.

I never subscribed to the circus.

It literally is a circus at this point.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
That's why my opinion has weight.

I never subscribed to the circus.

It literally is a circus at this point.

Your opinion has as much weight on our elections and political landscape as people in other countries do.  Basically none.  Less weight actually, because they are non citizens with their own shitty countries to worry about. You live here and can’t be bothered to participate. 

So shut the fuck up ass roach.  For someone who came back from the dead you sure have blown your second chance at improving your dumb ass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 10:23:39 AM
Your opinion has as much weight on our elections and political landscape as people in other countries do.  Basically none.  Less weight actually, because they are non citizens with their own shitty countries to worry about. You live here and can’t be bothered to participate. 

So shut the fuck up ass roach.  For someone who came back from the dead you sure have blown your second chance at improving your dumb ass.
I'm neutral, brah
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 05, 2021, 10:27:39 AM
I have seen two polls that state that 35-40% of Biden voters were unaware of the allegations against his on prior to the election (fits perfect with your soft steal narrative).

Of those surveyed, 9% would have changed their votes.  That's 3 million right there.

Generally, with these surveys I find the source and did into the data they provide....admittedly haven't done that yet...but did see this poll quoted in the Post this weekend.

But he hopefully won't run again...I doubt he will.

Dude, nine percent of

Oh, I get it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2021, 10:31:27 AM
Dude, nine percent of

Oh, I get it.

Yeah, did the same thing.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 05, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
I said it before and I will say it again.

Joe Biden couldn’t even defeat Bernie Sanders in the primaries.

And now you want America to believe he received the highest vote total in history?

Any person with an IQ above 50 can see that Joe Biden’s final vote total was historically, statistically, and mathematically impossible. It did not happen.

The COVID excuse to send out millions of mail-in ballots set the stage for the election results to be manipulated. There is absolutely no way Joe Biden received over 81,000,000 legal and legitimate votes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2021, 11:32:58 AM
I did. Stats’s and all. You have me a Reuters article

Maybe you can come up with an explanation as to why in all of the battleground states the vote count abruptly stopped around 10pm the night of the election when Trump was winning by a landslide in EVERY ONE OF THOSE states then the vote count restarted the next morning around 4am? Go ahead. Skate on this as well. This has never happened..

I’ll wait

Not here, you didn't. Read your post above....and underline for me the resources you provided therein.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 05, 2021, 11:41:23 AM
I said it before and I will say it again.

Joe Biden couldn’t even defeat Bernie Sanders in the primaries.

And now you want America to believe he received the highest vote total in history?

Any person with an IQ above 50 can see that Joe Biden’s final vote total was historically, statistically, and mathematically impossible. It did not happen.

The COVID excuse to send out millions of mail-in ballots set the stage for the election results to be manipulated. There is absolutely no way Joe Biden received over 81,000,000 legal and legitimate votes.
Correct, and they are setting it up so they will never lose another election.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2021, 11:48:03 AM
BINGO....like communist and socialist countries, rig the elections systems so the opposition can never win again. When Trump ran his promise was to “drain the swamp” and go after China. You go after China you disrupt the swamp. The “Swamp” didn’t want the status quo for decades disrupted and along comes an outsider, a non politician. Almost since the day his campaign started they knew he would trouble for the establishment and for four years while they made up conspiracy theories of all sorts while the MSM went along with it. The political left got ZERO done in those four except to look ahead 2020. Everything they threw at his was debunked right down to the fake impeachment’s and even today they’re still afraid of him which is he’s still in the headlines today. 

As for the courts? The “60” losses were not Trump lawyers but other attorneys/firms working pro Bono. Trump’s actual hired attorneys weren’t in court nearly that much.

BUT, most of the courts where those attorneys appeared were in front of Obama appointed attorneys and attorneys where Soros bought off the courts. Even in the local elections where I’m at, Soros money was involved funding the left.

Isn't this the U.S. Supreme Court you claimed would overturn the election?

U.S. LEGAL NEWS
DECEMBER 11, 2020

U.S. Supreme Court swiftly ends Trump-backed Texas bid to upend election results

The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday rejected a long-shot lawsuit by Texas and backed by President Donald Trump seeking to throw out voting results in four states, dealing him a likely fatal blow in his quest to undo his election loss to President-elect Joe Biden.

Trump said on Twitter, “The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, no Courage!”

Trump’s goal had long been for a case to reach the Supreme Court, where he had placed three new justices in his first term and where conservatives hold a 6-3 majority. The lawsuit brought by Texas and supported by 17 other states and more than 100 Republican members of Congress gave him that opportunity. The opportunity to lose once again. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 05, 2021, 11:52:39 AM
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 05, 2021, 11:59:12 AM
now back to the hate and vitriol we all enjoy in this day and age. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 05, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
New York
Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
 1 comments

<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

(Getty Images)

Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
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Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 05, 2021, 12:07:39 PM
You admittedly don’t even vote, loser.

Or train or work out.   :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
New York
Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
 1 comments

<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

(Getty Images)

Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.

MSM - “It was an armed Insurrection”

Reality - No firearms were found or recovered
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 05, 2021, 01:07:02 PM
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
New York
Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
 1 comments

<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

(Getty Images)

Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.

MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnel’s highly inaccurate, ridiculously biased, totally worthless opinion.

Guys like that play with their dog’s little red rocket.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 01:08:08 PM
I don’t have to defend anything.  It’s not my place to cater to your whining and delusions.

The fact that you can’t defend any of the policies or executive orders speaks volumes...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 01:28:54 PM
The fact that you can’t defend any of the policies or executive orders speaks volumes...

The face you think I have to defend a negative shows how desperate you are in having other people believe your delusions.

Trump didn't have enough votes to win the election.  You didn't have enough votes to win this thread.  You are both losers.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2021, 01:58:42 PM
MSM - “It was an armed Insurrection”

Reality - No firearms were found or recovered

Partly right. No firearms have been found on the capital grounds the may have been used by the insurrectionists. The definition of arms is weapons.

Arms = weapons which includes knives and anything else which can be used to harm or kill others.

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the Jan. 6 riot, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.

Christopher Alberts, of Maryland, was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm on Capitol grounds or buildings, carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

Federal prosecutors also have charged Lonnie Coffman, of Alabama, with possession of an unregistered firearm and carrying a pistol without a license. A bomb squad also recovered 11 Molotov cocktails from Coffman’s truck, according to the affidavit, and Coffman also was carrying two handguns.

Armed - equipped with or carrying a weapon or weapons.

Rioters brought knives, brass knuckles a stun gun and other weapons.

Video plainly shows the mob using all manner of makeshift weapons, including hockey sticks, flagpoles, fire extinguishers and a police shield stolen from an officer.





Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 02:10:34 PM
I think the insurrection was a smashing success.  400+ retards now with felonies on their records.   You guys should plan another one.  That way I wont have to run into any of you unless I need someone to ask if I want fries with that at the drive thru.  Yeah, it will be a drain on society to have to foot the bill, but most will just move back in with their parents anyway.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
I hope you're smarter than to believe he was a Trump supporter? He's a leftist actor who's purpose was to make Trump supporters look ridiculous.

It's a dog and pony show funk. That was not close to an insurrection. The real issue is the election was stolen with the help of foreigners. That's treason. The perpetrators should all be sentenced to death.

https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/buffalo-guy-trump-supporter-is-actually-a-leftist-agitator/

(https://i0.wp.com/defconnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/buffalo-blm2.jpg?w=664&ssl=1)

And here he is at a global warming protest last year as captured by AZCentral:

(https://i0.wp.com/defconnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/buffalo-climate.jpg?w=648&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2021, 02:12:40 PM
I think the insurrection was a smashing success.  400+ retards now with felonies on their records.   You guys should plan another one.  That way I wont have to run into any of you unless I need someone to ask if I want fries with that at the drive thru.  Yeah, it will be a drain on society to have to foot the bill, but most will just move back in with their parents anyway.
It was not an insurrection. Trump supporters and a cop died. A real insurrection would have been bloody. The January 6th show was a PR stunt by the left.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 05, 2021, 02:13:02 PM
I'd call it a soft steal. There was a concerted, 4 year propaganda campaign against Trump.

Exactly, said the same. Coach's Hammer & Scoreboard or whatever the shit is a fantasy. The election was stolen via censorship and propaganda among other things. Trump could've done something about censorship when he had the chance but he didn't.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 02:14:13 PM
It was not an insurrection. Trump supporters and a cop died. A real insurrection would have been bloody. The January 6th show was a PR stunt by the left.

Don't try to out troll Coach with the conspiracy theory bullshit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2021, 02:15:24 PM
I don't like Strawman. But I voted for him to stay because this is one of the reasons Getbig is valuable. Because it tries to limit censorship. Getbig will die if it censors people like Twitter and Facebook. That's the one main thing it has over those platforms.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2021, 02:18:40 PM
Don't try to out troll Coach with the conspiracy theory bullshit.
It's a fact. The cops let them in to the building. And there were BLM activists that posed as Trump supporters.

A real insurrection would have seen people enter the building with weapons and with the aim to shoot or stab to kill. An insurrection is not a fucking party!

Zero leftists died on January 6th. It is a scam and you fell for it!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/black-lives-matter-activist-john-sullivan-charged/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2021, 02:22:19 PM
Exactly, said the same. Coach's Hammer & Scoreboard or whatever the shit is a fantasy. The election was stolen via censorship and propaganda among other things. Trump could've done something about censorship when he had the chance but he didn't.
How is it a fantasy? Have you not seen the videos where Trump's numbers go down and Biden's increases by the same amount on live TV? How is that possible?

It was a soft and hard steal. They tried to steal it via 4 years of anti-Trump propaganda. And then when that did not work and Trump was winning they activated plan b, the hard steal of the election. The fact that courts refused to look at evidence makes the whole argument more valid. How can the courts make a determination without looking at evidence? They are acting on limited information.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 05, 2021, 02:23:28 PM
I don't like Strawman. But I voted for him to stay because this is one of the reasons Getbig is valuable. Because it tries to limit censorship. Getbig will die if it censors people like Twitter and Facebook. That's the one main thing it has over those platforms.

Yet you guys are perfectly okay with Primemuscle running and tattling to the Mods and getting people banned.

Make up your mind.

Either Getbig is “anything goes” or Getbig is “content moderated by Tattletales”, so which is it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 05, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
The soft steal was turning the election into a census with mail in voting. In some cases, the Democrat machine cities that ended up deciding the race had several weeks and in some cases months to retrieve the ballots. Biden’s dog could have been the candidate and have gotten the same number of votes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 05, 2021, 02:41:46 PM
BINGO....like communist and socialist countries, rig the elections systems so the opposition can never win again. When Trump ran his promise was to “drain the swamp” and go after China. You go after China you disrupt the swamp.





To me this China angle is absurd. They are all against China now, the left and the right. Watch what happens wrt China.
What exactly do you think the US should do about China? How should it go after them? Threaten war, perhaps over Taiwan?

The US establishment, left and right, is crying about the  mistreatment of the Muslims in China, meanwhile the US can't even keep its blacks happy. Laughable. China is saying you are shooting blacks in the streets for no reason and you complain about us? Lol. Of course the Chinese know it's BS but that's what US media says.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 05, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
   exactly, great thread my takeaway from all this is strawman should be made a Mod. the death match between lurker and tatoo should be a PPV event. coach should be put in charge of trump's 2024 campaign.
IF and that's a big IF this is funk sr, have your kids get your head checked, you're obviously loosing your faculties.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 05, 2021, 02:53:15 PM
Yet you guys are perfectly okay with Primemuscle running and tattling to the Mods and getting people banned.

Make up your mind.

Either Getbig is “anything goes” or Getbig is “content moderated by Tattletales”, so which is it?

Fuck off Leslie.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 05, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
How is it a fantasy? Have you not seen the videos where Trump's numbers go down and Biden's increases by the same amount on live TV? How is that possible?


Lots of things can look suspucious but do you know for an absolute fact that the either the machines added fake votes or the ballots were fake? If the hard steal was so obvious and so blatant and of such magnitude, things would have leaked somewhere.

Even Donald Trump doesn't say how it was done exactly. He doesn't commit to any one theory. If the evidence is there why doesn't Donald know about it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2021, 03:29:01 PM
Lots of things can look suspucious but do you know for an absolute fact that the either the machines added fake votes or the ballots were fake? If the hard steal was so obvious and so blatant and of such magnitude, things would have leaked somewhere.

Even Donald Trump doesn't say how it was done exactly. He doesn't commit to any one theory. If the evidence is there why doesn't Donald know about it?

This is what bugs, me, but maybe I missed it because I stopped following this stuff.

Did they ever legitimately explain:

1. The 138,000 votes to zero in favor of Biden.  Wisconsin? Minnesota?  Can't recall.

2. The stopping of counting in the 4 multiple swing states.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 03:43:33 PM
It's a fact. The cops let them in to the building. And there were BLM activists that posed as Trump supporters.

A real insurrection would have seen people enter the building with weapons and with the aim to shoot or stab to kill. An insurrection is not a fucking party!

Zero leftists died on January 6th. It is a scam and you fell for it!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/black-lives-matter-activist-john-sullivan-charged/

You should forward all this evidence to Rudy ASAP.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 03:44:37 PM
Yet you guys are perfectly okay with Primemuscle running and tattling to the Mods and getting people banned.

Make up your mind.

Either Getbig is “anything goes” or Getbig is “content moderated by Tattletales”, so which is it?

Who did he get banned? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 03:47:18 PM
Fuck off Leslie.

He won't recover.

Actually, he will and proceed to plaster the board with his queer projections and obsessions.   If Ron ever installed a Queer Filter on here... his computer would burst into flames on the spot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 03:47:54 PM
...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: CalvinH on April 05, 2021, 04:05:06 PM
I don't agree with straws politics but he stays.
Coach you asking someone to be banned because they don't agree with you seems like a democrat way of seeing things ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 04:08:21 PM
I don't agree with straws politics but he stays.
Coach you asking someone to be banned because they don't agree with you seems like a democrat way of seeing things ;)
How's the old man, Clavin?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 04:15:57 PM
30 to 15.  Landslide!!!!   Coach already pouring the champagne.   Oh wait... that didn’t work so well the last time for him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 04:20:28 PM
30 to 15.  Landslide!!!!   Coach already pouring the champagne.   Oh wait... that didn’t work so well the last time for him.
I get where it's coming from. This is exactly how voting should work.

Coach believes in a fantasy land.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: CalvinH on April 05, 2021, 04:24:23 PM
How's the old man, Clavin?

He's doing ok right now,thanks
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2021, 04:25:57 PM
He's doing ok right now,thanks
Your dad, makes all of the lists.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 05, 2021, 05:24:08 PM
Fuck off Leslie.

You sure do seem to show up to White Knight for Primemuscle in an awful, awful lot of threads.

You definitely are a lover of the cock.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
I don't agree with straws politics but he stays.
Coach you asking someone to be banned because they don't agree with you seems like a democrat way of seeing things ;)

This has ZERO to do with disagreements, if that were the case I’d be asking every liberal on here to be banned or at least timed out. This isn’t about censorship, this is about just being flat out annoying and trolling. Fuck, at least Prime brings something to the table and attempts to defend his positions as feeble as they are and even though he backstabbed me, he makes an attempt. As far Lurker, he’s entertaining, a pussy but entertaining even though he tows the communist line
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2021, 06:38:09 PM
30 to 15.  Landslide!!!!   Coach already pouring the champagne.   Oh wait... that didn’t work so well the last time for him.

Yep...and that’s why the vote counting stopped the night on the election then resumed the next day.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2021, 06:43:40 PM
Yep...and that’s why the vote counting stopped the night on the election then resumed the next day.

What's your excuse for here?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2021, 07:17:29 PM
It's a fact. The cops let them in to the building. And there were BLM activists that posed as Trump supporters.

A real insurrection would have seen people enter the building with weapons and with the aim to shoot or stab to kill. An insurrection is not a fucking party!

Zero leftists died on January 6th. It is a scam and you fell for it!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/black-lives-matter-activist-john-sullivan-charged/

For the sake of argument, at least one person of the five who died from (the whatever you want to call it) on January 6 may have been a leftist, as best as I know. Do you know otherwise?

As for BLM protesters, this wasn't their cause. Why would they be a part of it? Same goes for Antifa. No. The sheep who stormed the capital were Trumpsters which is why they were there.

Hmm, Coach was in Washington less than a month earlier at Christmastime. Do you suppose he made a return visit on January 6th? If so, he should post up photos of himself inside the capitol building, standing alongside an attractive woman, smiling and waving the Confederate flag....or not. I rally don't want the FBI after him. He's just confused. He's not a bad person. And I am just being a smart ass. LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 06, 2021, 05:01:39 AM
IF and that's a big IF this is funk sr, have your kids get your head checked, you're obviously loosing your faculties.
      for the record, I have only one account , not a gimmick. I am the only one who posts under this account, my kid hasn't been on getbig in over 10 years. coach says he wants to fuck up strawman's ass and now he wants to ban him this is perfectly acceptable. You don't like me, I get this. but guess what at the end of the day who really cares ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 06, 2021, 05:33:55 AM
You should forward all this evidence to Rudy ASAP.
   yeah, these are the alternate facts where the truth is not the truth the Rudy G reality tour.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 06, 2021, 05:39:01 AM
Strawman is a fucking retard. A creepy Liberal pervert.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 06, 2021, 05:41:13 AM
Coach,

Just use the "do not show posts" function and you won't see Straw's posts.

Then you won't get upset.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 06, 2021, 05:45:24 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 06, 2021, 06:43:12 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 06, 2021, 06:59:26 AM
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boys, when you're boycotting Coca Cola, remember you're golden if you hide your Coke.


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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 06, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-president-coronavirus-plague-982150/?fbclid=IwAR0BpPltie9ItWErHcpESZXgMU4BME-K36qlwmarSpAMb8HTr0juPkQxwW4   damm commie rag
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 06, 2021, 11:34:30 AM
   
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 06, 2021, 01:24:29 PM
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boys, when you're boycotting Coca Cola, remember you're golden if you hide your Coke.


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That's Cuba Cola
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 01:26:17 PM
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-president-coronavirus-plague-982150/?fbclid=IwAR0BpPltie9ItWErHcpESZXgMU4BME-K36qlwmarSpAMb8HTr0juPkQxwW4   damm commie rag

Yes..almost everything you post is communist propaganda. I see you switched over to your Funk account. No better than the View
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 01:34:34 PM
Partly right. No firearms have been found on the capital grounds the may have been used by the insurrectionists. The definition of arms is weapons.

Arms = weapons which includes knives and anything else which can be used to harm or kill others.

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the Jan. 6 riot, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.

Christopher Alberts, of Maryland, was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm on Capitol grounds or buildings, carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

Federal prosecutors also have charged Lonnie Coffman, of Alabama, with possession of an unregistered firearm and carrying a pistol without a license. A bomb squad also recovered 11 Molotov cocktails from Coffman’s truck, according to the affidavit, and Coffman also was carrying two handguns.

Armed - equipped with or carrying a weapon or weapons.

Rioters brought knives, brass knuckles a stun gun and other weapons.

Video plainly shows the mob using all manner of makeshift weapons, including hockey sticks, flagpoles, fire extinguishers and a police shield stolen from an officer.

Insurrection should have been in quotes. It wasn't an 'insurrection".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 01:37:24 PM
It's a fact. The cops let them in to the building. And there were BLM activists that posed as Trump supporters.

A real insurrection would have seen people enter the building with weapons and with the aim to shoot or stab to kill. An insurrection is not a fucking party!

Zero leftists died on January 6th. It is a scam and you fell for it!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/black-lives-matter-activist-john-sullivan-charged/

He won't read it..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
Straw has not been on this thread in awhile.    Maybe cleaning up the trash and clutter in the yard ? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: BossBoss on April 06, 2021, 03:07:40 PM
Straw has not been on this thread in awhile.    Maybe cleaning up the trash and clutter in the yard ?

This thread backfired, but i think Straw really hate it...
maybe he will switch his account and we will never see a Straw post again..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 06, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
Straw has not been on this thread in awhile.    Maybe cleaning up the trash and clutter in the yard ? 

His yard is a mess and the neighbors are complaining.

Straw was seen at his local Home Depot buying a wheelbarrow, lawn spreader, rake, and Scott's 4-Step lawncare program.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2021, 03:22:18 PM
Insurrection should have been in quotes. It wasn't an 'insurrection".

Thank you Coach “grammarian”.

Whether it was or it wasn't an 'insurrection' depends on who you ask. Also, it depends on what one considers violent. Insurrection; a violent uprising against an authority or government.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2021, 04:21:39 PM
His yard is a mess and the neighbors are complaining.

Straw was seen at his local Home Depot buying a wheelbarrow, lawn spreader, rake, and Scott's 4-Step lawncare program.

Lol.   Car on the front lawn , beer cans and trash ,  probably a hood rat strung out on the side. 

 Ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 05:21:15 PM
      for the record, I have only one account , not a gimmick. I am the only one who posts under this account, my kid hasn't been on getbig in over 10 years. coach says he wants to fuck up strawman's ass and now he wants to ban him this is perfectly acceptable. You don't like me, I get this. but guess what at the end of the day who really cares ?
Who said your posts weren't acceptable? Who said I didn't like you? This is typical democrat behaviour, play the victim when your mental deficiencies are pointed out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 05:36:03 PM
What I don’t understand is if Trump isn’t just another globalist why didn’t he order his followers to rise up and overturn the fraudulent election? Aren’t they always saying they have all the guns? If the election was really stolen why not do something about it beyond sending a clearly well past his prime Rudy Giuliani to talk to the press. We know Flynn suggested something along the lines of forcibly taking control of the election certification. Is Trump a pussy?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:38:18 PM
What I don’t understand is if Trump isn’t just another globalist why didn’t he just order his followers to rise up and overturn the fraudulent election? Aren’t they always saying they have all the guns? If the election was really stolen why not do something about it beyond sending a clearly well past his prime Rudy Giuliani to talk to the press. We know Flynn suggested something along the lines of forcibly taking control of the election certification. Is Trump a pussy?

His followers certainly are pussies.  All that big talk about what they were going to do.  Their attempted coup failed and now their are just sitting around making excuses.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 05:40:45 PM
His followers certainly are pussies.  All that big talk about what they were going to do.  Their attempted coup failed and now their are just sitting around making excuses.
I'd rather be known as a pussy than openly support child sniffing pedophiles like you do. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on April 06, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
His followers certainly are pussies.  All that big talk about what they were going to do.  Their attempted coup failed and now their are just sitting around making excuses.

Hi BossBoss
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:42:38 PM
Hi BossBoss

Hi Pussy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:43:22 PM
I'd rather be known as a pussy than openly support child sniffing pedophiles like you do. ;)

I didn't vote for Gaetz.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 05:43:34 PM
I'd rather be known as a pussy than openly support child sniffing pedophiles like you do. ;)

You must be a pussy if you let a child sniffing pedophile become the leader of your country.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:45:24 PM
You must be a pussy if you let a child sniffing pedophile become the leader of your country.


BURRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNN!!!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 05:46:20 PM
His followers certainly are pussies.

We’re not hard to find
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 06, 2021, 05:47:27 PM
This shit will not end.
Sides....

Let that be left for a restaurant menu, not political agendas.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
Thank you Coach “grammarian”.

Whether it was or it wasn't an 'insurrection' depends on who you ask. Also, it depends on what one considers violent. Insurrection; a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Funny, I don’t hear anyone from the left calling the destruction of Federal buildings and setting fire to them with people still in it an “insurrection”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:50:36 PM
We’re not hard to find

No you are not.  Which is why 400+ arrests are expected.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 05:50:42 PM
Trump was touted by his followers as something different but in the end he turned out to be just another opportunist cut from the same cloth as his so-called opponents.

You want to talk about real transformative leaders in modern history? Then talk about Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc. Trump isn’t even close to being in their league despite the hopes of his followers, who in reality can’t even give up the NFL. They’re not cut-out for revolution.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:52:51 PM
Trump was touted by his followers as something different but in the end he turned out to be just another opportunist cut from the same cloth as his so-called opponents.

You want to talk about real transformative leaders in modern history? Then talk about Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc. Trump isn’t even close to being in their league despite the hopes of his followers, who in reality can’t even give up the NFL. They’re not cut-out for revolution.

HAHAHA.. morons claimed Trump was "sent by God". 

Now he was voted out and they can't accept that it is God's Will too.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 05:53:38 PM
No you are not.  Which is why 400+ arrests are expected.

Lol...what??
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 06, 2021, 05:55:39 PM
Trump was touted by his followers as something different but in the end he turned out to be just another opportunist cut from the same cloth as his so-called opponents.

You want to talk about real transformative leaders in modern history? Then talk about Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc. Trump isn’t even close to being in their league despite the hopes of his followers, who in reality can’t even give up the NFL. They’re not cut-out for revolution.

Nah, he was entirely different than any President in recent history.

Now matter how you attempt to spin it, Trump exposed politicians and the press for who they really are like no other.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 05:56:33 PM
Lol...what??

Was there a big word in there that you didn't get?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 05:57:49 PM
HAHAHA.. morons claimed Trump was "sent by God". 

Now he was voted out and they can't accept that it is God's Will too.

Nah....we’ll win
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
Nah, he was entirely different than any President in recent history.

Now matter how you attempt to spin it, Trump exposed politicians and the press for who they really are like no other.

Not really. The only differences between him and the political class were at the edges. Support for Israel? Both parties. Increased defense spending? Both parties. Zero entitlement reform? Both parties. Increased government spending? Both parties. The list is endless. What you got caught up in was just theater.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
You must be a pussy if you let a child sniffing pedophile become the leader of your country.
I didn't "let" LurkeringforMens hero become the leader of my country, #notthePresident ::)


BURRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNN!!!!
Like when you take a piss after sex with your boyfriend ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 06:01:13 PM
Was there a big word in there that you didn't get?

There must have been. Either that or not just a retard but a complete retard. If you can’t explain it, don’t say it. I’m careful about every word I wrote on every platform I write on. I also know we have a ton of cowards on here that like to hide beside their keyboards and talk shit, most using proxies. And you call us “pussies” LOL
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 06, 2021, 06:03:21 PM
There must have been. Either that or not just a retard but a complete retard. If you can’t explain it, don’t say it. I’m careful about every word I wrote on every platform I write on. I also know we have a ton of cowards on here that like to hide beside their keyboards and talk shit, most using proxies. And you call us “pussies” LOL
You give republicans a bad name.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:04:22 PM
The main difference in Trump is that he was so insecure and childish that manifest itself through his nonstop lying and attention whoring.   He didn't give a shit about the job, he just wanted the attention.  He had absolutely no clue how the government worked or the operated behind the scenes.  Too many former workers, friends and appointees have come forward and stated as much.  While it is easy to try to dismiss them for personal reasons just to make excuses for Trump, it can't be done.  There are just too many to be a coincedence.

I thought I would never say this, but Sarah Palin has a better understanding of politics than Trump ever will. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 06:05:28 PM
You give republicans a bad name.

You give humans a bad name
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:06:12 PM
There must have been. Either that or not just a retard but a complete retard. If you can’t explain it, don’t say it. I’m careful about every word I wrote on every platform I write on. I also know we have a ton of cowards on here that like to hide beside their keyboards and talk shit, most using proxies. And you call us “pussies” LOL

Instead of worrying about your writing, better start worrying about your reading.  Because you either missed what the conversation was about or didn't understand it. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
The main difference in Trump is that he was so insecure and childish that manifest itself through his nonstop lying and attention whoring.   He didn't give a shit about the job, he just wanted the attention.  He had absolutely no clue how the government worked or the operated behind the scenes.  Too many former workers, friends and appointees have come forward and stated as much.  While it is easy to try to dismiss them for personal reasons just to make excuses for Trump, it can't be done.  There are just too many to be a coincedence.

I thought I would never say this, but Sarah Palin has a better understanding of politics than Trump ever will.
Are you saying the 24/7/365 negative media coverage had no impact on public opinion or Trumps ability to do his job?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 06:08:22 PM
The main difference in Trump is that he was so insecure and childish that manifest itself through his nonstop lying and attention whoring.   He didn't give a shit about the job, he just wanted the attention.  He had absolutely no clue how the government worked or the operated behind the scenes.  Too many former workers, friends and appointees have come forward and stated as much.  While it is easy to try to dismiss them for personal reasons just to make excuses for Trump, it can't be done.  There are just too many to be a coincedence.

I thought I would never say this, but Sarah Palin has a better understanding of politics than Trump ever will.

😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2021, 06:09:27 PM
Are you saying the 24/7/365 negative media coverage had no impact on public opinion or Trumps ability to do his job?

He buys into whatever is told to him....from the state ran media
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 06:10:24 PM
Even the judges Trump appointed are just creatures of the establishment. They have more in common with the so-called liberal judges they went to Harvard and Yale with than the average Trump supporter. The Supreme Court is a perfect example. It’s a moderate institution of the political class, even with a bunch of “conservative” appointees.

You have to be a real simpleton to think Trump mattered.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:14:33 PM
Are you saying the 24/7/365 negative media coverage had no impact on public opinion or Trumps ability to do his job?

On public opinon?  Of course not.  On his ability to do his job?  You mean if he wasn't constantly whining and crying about the negative coverage he could have done a better job?  Maybe if he actually tried to do his job, and stopped whining and crying and lying, there wouldn't have been so much negative coverage.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 06:22:07 PM
On public opinon?  Of course not.  On his ability to do his job?  You mean if he wasn't constantly whining and crying about the negative coverage he could have done a better job?  Maybe if he actually tried to do his job, and stopped whining and crying and lying, there wouldn't have been so much negative coverage.
Therein lies a catch 22, had the media been supportive he wouldn't need to whine and cry about the way he was treated. Look at the way the media coddles Joe Bitems balls. Imagine if Trump had been giving a speech and stuttered and stumbled and then said "anyway..." the media would have gone on for days about his mental stability. Trump used a handrail to walk down a ramp and the media claimed he was physically declining, Bitem falls 3 times walking up stairs and they claim it was windy....Clearly the way the President is portrayed in the media has an impact on his ability to do his job and the media portraying Trump as a villain publicly and daily made it easier for the democrats to go against his policies without affecting the publics opinions of the democrats.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:30:53 PM
Therein lies a catch 22, had the media been supportive he wouldn't need to whine and cry about the way he was treated. Look at the way the media coddles Joe Bitems balls. Imagine if Trump had been giving a speech and stuttered and stumbled and then said "anyway..." the media would have gone on for days about his mental stability. Trump used a handrail to walk down a ramp and the media claimed he was physically declining, Bitem falls 3 times walking up stairs and they claim it was windy....Clearly the way the President is portrayed in the media has an impact on his ability to do his job and the media portraying Trump as a villain publicly and daily made it easier for the democrats to go against his policies without affecting the publics opinions of the democrats.

Imagine if Trump gave a speech without lying every other sentence..  he wouldn't have been subjected to negative coverage.  Or at the very least if one of his press secretaries could give a speech that wasn't a clusterfuck of exaggerations and false information that was easily proven to be bullshit.

Biden fell three times going up the stairs?  So?  If there a limit on how many one is allowed?

The media can impact a way a president is viewed, but in Trump's case that was already established long ago by his own actions.  I have read that the 2020 election was the one in which there were truly "fewer independents" than registered, meaning that long before the election there were few people who were still on the fence about who they were voting for.  Or voting against.  There is absolutely nothing that could have been done in the news, social media, or on this board to sway another person's opinion prior to the election.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2021, 06:35:51 PM
Imagine if Trump gave a speech without lying every other sentence..  he wouldn't have been subjected to negative coverage.  Or at the very least if one of his press secretaries could give a speech that wasn't a clusterfuck of exaggerations and false information that was easily proven to be bullshit.

Biden fell three times going up the stairs?  So?  If there a limit on how many one is allowed?

The media can impact a way a president is viewed, but in Trump's case that was already established long ago by his own actions.  I have read that the 2020 election was the one in which there were truly "fewer independents" than registered, meaning that long before the election there were few people who were still on the fence about who they were voting for.  Or voting against.  There is absolutely nothing that could have been done in the news, social media, or on this board to sway another person's opinion prior to the election.
I'm going to circle back to that.... ::)
If you believe the 24/7 negativity for 5 years in the news didn't influence the election, you just aren't being logical.  The highlighted part is solely party affiliation and support speaking, separate yourself from the D and take a neutral look at things. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on April 06, 2021, 06:36:09 PM
Imagine if Trump gave a speech without lying every other sentence..  he wouldn't have been subjected to negative coverage.  Or at the very least if one of his press secretaries could give a speech that wasn't a clusterfuck of exaggerations and false information that was easily proven to be bullshit.

Biden fell three times going up the stairs?  So?  If there a limit on how many one is allowed?

The media can impact a way a president is viewed, but in Trump's case that was already established long ago by his own actions.  I have read that the 2020 election was the one in which there were truly "fewer independents" than registered, meaning that long before the election there were few people who were still on the fence about who they were voting for.  Or voting against.  There is absolutely nothing that could have been done in the news, social media, or on this board to sway another person's opinion prior to the election.

Still complaining about Trump? What has it been, 5 years straight now?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:41:29 PM
Still complaining about Trump? What has it been, 5 years straight now?

Still lying about gimmicks?  What has it been?  All your life now?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 06, 2021, 06:43:24 PM
Not really. The only differences between him and the political class were at the edges. Support for Israel? Both parties. Increased defense spending? Both parties. Zero entitlement reform? Both parties. Increased government spending? Both parties. The list is endless. What you got caught up in was just theater.

Don’t even try to convince us that Donald Trump is similar in any way to the abject failure Barack Obama.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
I'm going to circle back to that.... ::)
If you believe the 24/7 negativity for 5 years in the news didn't influence the election, you just aren't being logical.  The highlighted part is solely party affiliation and support speaking, separate yourself from the D and take a neutral look at things. ;)

No it didn't affect the election because all the negative things in the news didn't matter to the people who loved him and any positive things in the news didn't matter to the people who hated him.

He had many opportunities to actually try to make inroads with people in his own party that was against him but failed to do so because it was nothing but me me me me.  His biggest problem was thinking he knew everything and avoiding/ignoring the counsel of people in his administration that were trying to help him. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
Don’t even try to convince us that Donald Trump is similar in any way to the abject failure Barack Obama.

Did Obama fail you? Sorry to hear that. I really don’t remember much about his presidency. I know I made more money every year he was in office (as with every other president). I got more things, put more money towards my retirement, paid down my mortgages, etc. My kids got older and did well. So overall life got better, as it did under Trump. Again, sorry to hear Obama negatively impacted your life. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 06, 2021, 06:51:15 PM
Imagine if Trump gave a speech without lying every other sentence..  he wouldn't have been subjected to negative coverage.  Or at the very least if one of his press secretaries could give a speech that wasn't a clusterfuck of exaggerations and false information that was easily proven to be bullshit.

Biden fell three times going up the stairs?  So?  If there a limit on how many one is allowed?

The media can impact a way a president is viewed, but in Trump's case that was already established long ago by his own actions.  I have read that the 2020 election was the one in which there were truly "fewer independents" than registered, meaning that long before the election there were few people who were still on the fence about who they were voting for.  Or voting against.  There is absolutely nothing that could have been done in the news, social media, or on this board to sway another person's opinion prior to the election.

You and your fellow creatures hate President Trump and all those who are like him, i.e, AMERICANS,   Because we choose not to hyphenate our allegiance in any way, shape or form to our Nation.  We are Americans. Your weirdness and allegiance to whatever you think is more "woke" before that.  You're hispanic-America, gay-American, cis-American (WTF is "cis" anyway?) and to be homes what your real fuckup is you are just anti-American.

You think you're going to "win", that you're going to crush America under you jack-booted pumps.  Well, you and your fellow BLM, Antifa, DEF2YT, et al weirdos will  have to commit treason against all that is good.

That is fact.  And here's another fact.  Not all of us are crippled, seasoned citizens... ;D  I'll tell you this, you aren't an asshole, you're a whole ass.  You and your balloon knot buddies here and I suspect, in the real world.   So then Mr. anti-American, fuck off.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 06, 2021, 06:53:12 PM
Did Obama fail you? Sorry to hear that. I really don’t remember much about his presidency. I know I made more money every year he was in office (as with every other president). I got more things, put more money towards my retirement, paid down my mortgages, etc. My kids got older and did well. So overall life got better, as it did under Trump. Again, sorry to hear Obama negatively impacted your life.

Obama was a failure at all levels and in all ways.

The rest of your story is about as believable as a Brian Stelter expose.

Carry on convincing yourself of that, it will keep you from hanging yourself from your garage rafters.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2021, 06:53:26 PM
You and your fellow creatures hate President Trump and all those who are like him, i.e, AMERICANS,   Because we choose not to hyphenate our allegiance in any way, shape or form to our Nation.  We are Americans. Your weirdness and allegiance to whatever you think is more "woke" before that.  You're hispanic-America, gay-American, cis-American (WTF is "cis" anyway?) and to be homes what your real fuckup is you are just anti-American.

You think you're going to "win", that you're going to crush America under you jack-booted pumps.  Well, you and your fellow BLM, Antifa, DEF2YT, et al weirdos will  have to commit treason against all that is good.

That is fact.  And here's another fact.  Not all of us are crippled, seasoned citizens... ;D  I'll tell you this, you aren't an asshole, you're a whole ass.  You and your balloon knot buddies here and I suspect, in the real world.   So then Mr. anti-American, fuck off.

Metamucil induced meltdown.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 06, 2021, 07:01:30 PM
Did Obama fail you? Sorry to hear that. I really don’t remember much about his presidency. I know I made more money every year he was in office (as with every other president). I got more things, put more money towards my retirement, paid down my mortgages, etc. My kids got older and did well. So overall life got better, as it did under Trump. Again, sorry to hear Obama negatively impacted your life.

Obama did nothing.  Nothing to help anyone.  Not a damn thing.  If that's what you want, then continue to vote for these leeches.  President Trump did more for American in his four years than anyone in decades. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 07:01:59 PM
Obama was a failure at all levels and in all ways.

The rest of your story is about as believable as a Brian Stelter expose.

Carry on convincing yourself of that, it will keep you from hanging yourself from your garage rafters.

I know, he should’ve stopped the attack on the WTC ... oh wait ...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 06, 2021, 07:04:16 PM
Not really. The only differences between him and the political class were at the edges. Support for Israel? Both parties. Increased defense spending? Both parties. Zero entitlement reform? Both parties. Increased government spending? Both parties. The list is endless. What you got caught up in was just theater.

Things are a bit more nuanced than that, but for the sake of staying on topic, fine.  There's policy, and there's style, or theater as you call it.

I'm just not writing off the theater aspect, as it had impacts.  Heck, it cost him a second term.

His overall behavior, and the corresponding behavior towards him was like no other.  Not even close to being anything near status quo.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 07:05:47 PM
Obama did nothing.  Nothing to help anyone.  Not a damn thing.  If that's what you want, then continue to vote for these leeches.  President Trump did more for American in his four years than anyone in decades.

I wasn’t expecting anything. The president isn’t your father. Stop looking to others to “help.” So for yourself.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 06, 2021, 07:08:53 PM
I wasn’t expecting anything. The president isn’t your father. Stop looking to others to “help.” So for yourself.

What are you typing about?  I don't expect anyone to be my "father" and I also work for a living and proudly so now for decades.

I look to our President to lead us forward.  Obama promised change.  Anyone can "change" but what is NEEDED is CHANGE FOR THE BETTER.  And that is exactly what we got with President Donald J. Trump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 06, 2021, 07:10:48 PM
Things are a bit more nuanced than that, but for the sake of staying on topic, fine.  There's policy, and there's style, or theater as you call it.

I'm just not writing off the theater aspect, as it had impacts.  Heck, it cost him a second term.

His overall behavior, and the corresponding behavior towards him was like no other.  Not even close to being anything near status quo.

Fair point but in the end the donor class calls the shots. Doesn’t matter who is president. You can’t expect people who have no investment in the system to affect it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 06, 2021, 07:22:19 PM
Fair point but in the end the donor class calls the shots. Doesn’t matter who is president. You can’t expect people who have no investment in the system to affect it.

I've pretty much said the same thing for years here, preceding Trump.

But I do feel he affected things much more than those in the past, some good, some bad.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 06, 2021, 07:24:17 PM
I know, he should’ve stopped the attack on the WTC ... oh wait ...

Obama is an America-hating Muslim, he wouldn’t have lifted a finger to stop a terrorist attack on America.

The WTC attacks were the direct result of inaction by Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2021, 07:29:42 PM
Obama was a failure at all levels and in all ways.




Disagree, Obama was a success at laying out the agenda that is being completed now. He put the people in place to allow the destruction of the previous ways of doing things. All unopposed by the RINOS, btw.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 06, 2021, 08:00:11 PM

Disagree, Obama was a success at laying out the agenda that is being completed now. He put the people in place to allow the destruction of the previous ways of doing things. All unopposed by the RINOS, btw.

That’s like saying Adolf Hitler was successful right up until his last month in office.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2021, 08:34:08 PM
That’s like saying Adolf Hitler was successful right up until his last month in office.


It's not, because the plan continues by those that put the Obama and Biden types in office.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 06, 2021, 10:02:49 PM
Obama is an America-hating Muslim, he wouldn’t have lifted a finger to stop a terrorist attack on America.

The WTC attacks were the direct result of inaction by Bill Clinton.

Boy, you sure are one big bowl of retard.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2021, 06:44:02 AM
..

HAHAHAHA.  He's already in the news now for fraud in regards to fleecing his dumb supporters with multiple campaign donations.... including one for his "birthday".

I guess fairy tales aren't free after all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 06:48:50 AM
HAHAHAHA.  He's already in the news now for fraud in regards to fleecing his dumb supporters with multiple campaign donations.... including one for his "birthday".

I guess fairy tales aren't free after all.
Don't you get that you are equally as dumb?

We have a problem in this country. It's the far left and the far right.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 06:59:58 AM
Who said your posts weren't acceptable? Who said I didn't like you? This is typical democrat behaviour, play the victim when your mental deficiencies are pointed out.
                     
      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 07:07:11 AM
Obama did nothing.  Nothing to help anyone.  Not a damn thing.  If that's what you want, then continue to vote for these leeches.  President Trump did more for American in his four years than anyone in decades.
  before obama got in I was paying over 3 k a year for health insurance. obama started the affordable care act despite objections from the republicans. now i pay 0 dollars a year for better coverage. tell me again how obama did nothing for anybody. I am an independent not a democrat but i'm not stupid.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 07:11:12 AM
  before obama got in I was paying over 3 k a year for health insurance. obama started the affordable care act despite objections from the republicans. now i pay 0 dollars a year for better coverage. tell me again how obama did nothing for anybody. I am an independent not a democrat but i'm not stupid.
You are old and decrepit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 07, 2021, 07:22:20 AM
  before obama got in I was paying over 3 k a year for health insurance. obama started the affordable care act despite objections from the republicans. now i pay 0 dollars a year for better coverage. tell me again how obama did nothing for anybody. I am an independent not a democrat but i'm not stupid.

Don’t sell yourself short, you’re very stupid.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Estimated on April 07, 2021, 07:28:57 AM
  before obama got in I was paying over 3 k a year for health insurance. obama started the affordable care act despite objections from the republicans. now i pay 0 dollars a year for better coverage. tell me again how obama did nothing for anybody. I am an independent not a democrat but i'm not stupid.

Youre born in 1951?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 07:51:24 AM
how do you intent to avoid these events?
I have no intentions to be involved in such events.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 07, 2021, 07:53:47 AM
  before obama got in I was paying over 3 k a year for health insurance. obama started the affordable care act despite objections from the republicans. now i pay 0 dollars a year for better coverage. tell me again how obama did nothing for anybody. I am an independent not a democrat but i'm not stupid.


"Obamacare" works by charging a fucking fortune to the young and healthy or taxing them for not having insurance, when they rarely need it. My premiums jumped three fold after dipshit's plan went through. Yes, you are stupid Funk. And quit saying you aren't a Democrat, lol. You are one of the most liberal people on this board- just too big a pussy to admit it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2021, 07:56:42 AM
I have no intentions to be involved in such events.

And yet your dumb ass is in every thread here. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 07, 2021, 08:52:08 AM
And yet your dumb ass is in every thread here.
only dumb ass is oldtimer1. he writes about steroids but admits on his own training thread he´s always hung over from booze. Even so dumb he got the vaccination jab.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: sync pulse on April 07, 2021, 08:55:33 AM

"Obamacare" "The concept of insurance" works by charging a fucking fortune to the young and healthy or taxing them for not having insurance, when they rarely need it. My premiums jumped three fold after dipshit's plan went through. Yes, you are stupid Funk. And quit saying you aren't a Democrat, lol. You are one of the most liberal people on this board- just too big a pussy to admit it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
only dumb ass is oldtimer1. he writes about steroids but admits on his own training thread he´s always hung over from booze. Even so dumb he got the vaccination jab.

I don't follow him so I am not aware of that.  Sounds dumb, but probably not unusual.  Not defending him, but I have heard of many pro BBers that were borderline alcoholics as well.  I remember an old interview where Linda Murray stated that if she thought her training and diet for the Mrs. O were on track and coming along, she would allow herself one vodka martini every other day.  No telling what she had when she wasn't training for a show.

I got the vaccination too.  I did it because going from 6 vacations in 2019 to just one in 2020, I am going to do what I have to in order to travel again.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2021, 09:35:57 AM

"Obamacare" works by charging a fucking fortune to the young and healthy or taxing them for not having insurance, when they rarely need it. My premiums jumped three fold after dipshit's plan went through. Yes, you are stupid Funk. And quit saying you aren't a Democrat, lol. You are one of the most liberal people on this board- just too big a pussy to admit it.

The boomers are very selfish and have no problem bleeding their kids and grandkids. The generation that most Getbiggers belong to, generation X, are of a much higher quality.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 07, 2021, 09:42:30 AM
                     
      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::)

What a batsh*t crazy woman.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 07, 2021, 09:45:39 AM
The boomers are very selfish and have no problem bleeding their kids and grandkids. The generation that most Getbiggers belong to, generation X, are of a much higher quality.
Gen Y and Z just want free everything.  Nothing selfish about that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 07, 2021, 09:49:00 AM
"Did Straw clean up his yard or what?"

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2021, 09:52:05 AM
"Did Straw clean up his yard or what?"

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No, Trump bought up all the Hefty bags from Straw’s local Home Depot😩
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2021, 10:37:28 AM
What is this clean up his yard bit about?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Tapeworm on April 07, 2021, 10:39:02 AM
Someone probably Earthviewed my yard. It's a shambles.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 10:40:35 AM
You are old and decrepit.
            you're right I am old and you're gay, one day you will be old and gay. not that there's anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 10:41:57 AM
Don’t sell yourself short, you’re very stupid.
   thanks for the affirmation, here all this time I thought I was just delusional.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 10:43:16 AM
Youre born in 1951?
  yeah I was a victim of circumstance. :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 10:45:57 AM
how do you intent to avoid these events?
  most can't shitzo will probably take the easy way out, that's what I would do if I were him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 10:48:54 AM

"Obamacare" works by charging a fucking fortune to the young and healthy or taxing them for not having insurance, when they rarely need it. My premiums jumped three fold after dipshit's plan went through. Yes, you are stupid Funk. And quit saying you aren't a Democrat, lol. You are one of the most liberal people on this board- just too big a pussy to admit it.
                    have a nice day kwon 3, best of luck in all your future endeavors.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 11:15:32 AM
Did he clean up his yard yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 11:59:02 AM
            you're right I am old and you're gay, one day you will be old and gay. not that there's anything wrong with it.
I'm literally not gay.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 12:07:44 PM
I'm literally not gay.
    sorry, I was informed that you were the self affirmed sucker of cocks. I must have been misinformed. my apologies, again not that there's anything wrong with it, if that's what you like and no consenting adults or animals are harmed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 12:10:53 PM
    sorry, I was informed that you were the self affirmed sucker of cocks. I must have been misinformed. my apologies, again not that there's anything wrong with it, if that's what you like and no consenting adults or animals are harmed.
Meltdown.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2021, 12:12:31 PM
I'm literally not gay.

I think what you mean is you “identify” as straight but you’re really gay. Hey, whatever makes you sleep better. Not here to judge
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 12:13:39 PM
Meltdown.
  no Sire, it was a sincere apology.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 12:16:54 PM
I think what you mean is you “identify” as straight but you’re really gay.
That's your problem.  Stop telling people what to think.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 12:20:28 PM
  no Sire, it was a sincere apology.
No such thing as a sincere apology.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2021, 12:34:04 PM
Funny, I don’t hear anyone from the left calling the destruction of Federal buildings and setting fire to them with people still in it an “insurrection”

It is because by definition these acts are different from each other.

The difference between insurrection and riot is that insurrection is an organized opposition to an authority; a mutiny; a rebellion while riot is wanton or unrestrained behavior; uproar; tumult.

Mutiny is a revolt among a group of people to oppose, change, or overthrow an organization.
A rebellion is an act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 12:34:06 PM
I'm literally not gay.

Didnt you post a thread about you sucking a D a few years ago? 

 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
It is because by definition these acts are different from each other.

The difference between insurrection and riot is that insurrection is an organized opposition to an authority; a mutiny; a rebellion while riot is wanton or unrestrained behavior; uproar; tumult.

Mutiny is a revolt among a group of people to oppose, change, or overthrow an organization.
A rebellion is an act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

Hahahahaha...oh FFS 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
No such thing as a sincere apology.
  not on getbig anyway.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 07, 2021, 12:44:15 PM
No such thing as an insincere blowjob.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 02:49:58 PM
Didnt you post a thread about you sucking a D a few years ago?
Go order your Peloton already, hero.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 07, 2021, 03:44:12 PM
    sorry, I was informed that you were the self affirmed sucker of cocks. I must have been misinformed. my apologies, again not that there's anything wrong with it, if that's what you like and no consenting adults or animals are harmed.

Thus far, he's only confirmed the sucking of one cock.  My grandfather once told me that if you suck only one cock, you are still a cock sucker. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2021, 05:01:52 PM
Go order your Peloton already, hero.

This does absolutely nothing for you, does it?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
Go order your Peloton already, hero.

I have an assault bike already you fat lard.   Today at 4 am I did an hour of 120lb sandbag exercises that was pretty damn rough and followed hour of 4 mile ruck w 35 lbs at 5 am to follow.

What did you do today?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 07, 2021, 05:11:22 PM
I have an assault bike already you fat lard.   Today at 4 am I did an hour of 120lb sandbag exercises that was pretty damn rough and followed hour of 4 mile ruck w 35 lbs at 5 am to follow.

What did you do today?

Purple Drank!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 05:17:46 PM
Purple Drank!

Shizzo is a disgrace to this site.  Does not train.  Does not like lifting.  Does not love the discipline of the daily grind. 


The one common bond here is the love of the training - he doesn’t have it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 05:19:29 PM
Shizzo is a disgrace to this site.  Does not train.  Does not like lifting.  Does not love the discipline of the daily grind. 


The one common bond here is the love of the training - he doesn’t have it.
You sure about that?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2021, 05:23:33 PM
Shizzo is a disgrace to this site.  Does not train.  Does not like lifting.  Does not love the discipline of the daily grind. 


The one common bond here is the love of the training - he doesn’t have it.
He likes to watch other men train though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
You sure about that?
m
Then for f sake.   Start posting about training and lifting.  This is GB.   We are all supposed to be bonded by the metal and iron.

That’s why and how I found this site and love it.  Same for many others. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 07, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
m
Then for f sake.   Start posting about training and lifting.  This is GB.   We are all supposed to be bonded by the metal and iron.

That’s why and how I found this site and love it.  Same for many others.
Settle down, Moses.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2021, 05:29:05 PM
Purple Drank!

MD 20/20 in his case.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2021, 05:30:13 PM
Settle down, Moses.

Even straw works out and will talk about training.   Lifting and training is why GB exists.   Why are you here if you don’t do that ?

Some people play a musical instrument.   Others are into farming.  Some camping.  Others art or other stuff.  Here we lift weights. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Estimated on April 07, 2021, 06:01:32 PM
  yeah I was a victim of circumstance. :'(
That has nothing to do with your zero dollar plan?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 07, 2021, 09:29:23 PM
Thus far, he's only confirmed the sucking of one cock.  My grandfather once told me that if you suck only one cock, you are still a cock sucker.

Even your grandfather knew your path in life at your young age.

You’ve popsicled a lot of men.

A lot of men.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 07, 2021, 09:37:18 PM
Even your grandfather knew your path in life at your young age.

You’ve popsicled a lot of men.

A lot of men.

He had theories on men with women's names too. Leslie.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 07, 2021, 10:29:30 PM
He had theories on men with women's names too. Leslie.

Did you sit on his lap naked while he filled you full of tall tales?

You shit the money bed, phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 07, 2021, 10:34:23 PM
Did you sit on his lap naked while he filled you full of tall tales?

You shit the money bed, phaggot.

Poor thing.  You've suffered trauma.  No doubt about it. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 07, 2021, 10:38:29 PM
Poor thing.  You've suffered trauma.  No doubt about it.

Exactly the type of response I’d expect from Shizzo.

You and your BFF LurkingHomo have become the new Shizzo and Primemuscle of Getbig.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 08, 2021, 12:12:31 AM
Exactly the type of response I’d expect from Shizzo.

You and your BFF LurkingHomo have become the new Shizzo and Primemuscle of Getbig.

Bless your troubled little heart.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 08, 2021, 03:50:47 AM

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 08, 2021, 04:09:49 AM
(https://i.gifer.com/6WpR.gif)
:D  No shit!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 08, 2021, 07:33:58 AM
Exactly the type of response I’d expect from Shizzo.

You and your BFF LurkingHomo have become the new Shizzo and Primemuscle of Getbig.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 08, 2021, 09:20:52 AM


Shizzo trying to fit into this thread like a big black cock fits into LurkingHomo’s sphincter.

They belong together like two testicles in a size small scrotum.

LurkingHomo loves to slurp on the shaft of the useless 13%.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 08, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
(https://i.gifer.com/6WpR.gif)

Just have to say that IroNat's reaction GIF game is very strong at the moment  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2021, 09:56:16 AM
Straw must be on some bender w Shizzo or some other homos in Sanfransicko - has not replied to this in awhile.   

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 08, 2021, 10:11:52 AM
Just have to say that IroNat's reaction GIF game is very strong at the moment  8)

 ;D

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoOxyDTXjzpMbIY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 08, 2021, 10:13:22 AM
Straw must be on some bender w Shizzo or some other homos in Sanfransicko - has not replied to this in awhile.   



Dude is busy with yardwork.

(https://media.tenor.co/images/a38bdcd21216d00363b303d1b002b949/raw)


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 08, 2021, 10:13:33 AM
LurkingHomo loves to slurp on the shaft of the useless 13%.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on April 08, 2021, 10:16:03 AM
Straw must be on some bender w Shizzo or some other homos in Sanfransicko - has not replied to this in awhile.
You are a lawyer, right?

I'm willing to bet you don't have many cases.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 08, 2021, 10:22:32 AM
m
Then for f sake.   Start posting about training and lifting.  This is GB.   We are all supposed to be bonded by the metal and iron.
That’s why and how I found this site and love it.  Same for many others.

Do you like a ball and chain? LOL.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 08, 2021, 10:25:19 AM
Pennsylvania Forced to Remove 21,000 Dead People Off Its Voter Rolls: Settlement

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/pennsylvania-forced-to-remove-21000-dead-people-off-its-voter-rolls-settlement_3767667.html

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 08, 2021, 10:29:00 AM
Dude is busy with yardwork.

(https://media.tenor.co/images/a38bdcd21216d00363b303d1b002b949/raw)
     good one looks like the guy from the village people.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 08, 2021, 10:33:22 AM
Pennsylvania Forced to Remove 21,000 Dead People Off Its Voter Rolls: Settlement

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/pennsylvania-forced-to-remove-21000-dead-people-off-its-voter-rolls-settlement_3767667.html
Misleading Claim of Dead Registered Voters in Pennsylvania
By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on November 10, 2020

Quick Take
A misleading claim that more than 21,000 registered voters in Pennsylvania are dead is circulating online. The figure comes from a conservative group that failed to convince a federal judge in October that its list was accurate.

Full Story
Headlines claiming that “21,000 DEAD PEOPLE” are registered to vote in Pennsylvania have been racking up shares on social media amid an effort to spread the unfounded claim that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

High-profile conservative figures — including Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida and President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani — have promoted a story with a similarly suggestive headline.

But the claim is misleading. It’s based on a lawsuit filed by a conservative organization called the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which regularly brings voting-related lawsuits against states.

The case was filed on Oct. 15, about two weeks before Election Day. It alleged that more than 21,000 voters registered in Pennsylvania were dead and asked that the court order the state to remove them from the rolls before the election.

The federal judge hearing the case declined to do so.

Instead, Judge John Jones III cited PILF’s questionable methodology in developing its purported list of ineligible voters, its decision to file the suit at the “eleventh hour,” and the fact that Pennsylvania’s system for stripping deceased voters from the rolls appears to work.

State law requires the health department to notify local election officials when someone over 18 dies, and those officials are required to cancel any corresponding voter registration. The secretary of the commonwealth, against whom the suit was brought, maintains a database where those voter records are updated.

In 2019, officials removed 95,670 deceased voters from the database, according to the secretary of the commonwealth’s annual report on voter registration. In 2018, they removed 91,424. In 2017, they removed 103,913.

Jones noted that more than half of the purportedly deceased voters on a list of 9,300 names PILF sent to the secretary of the commonwealth in May didn’t appear on the list the organization submitted in October.

“To be sure, this could be the result of a number of factors, including inadequacies in [PILF’s] data-mining procedures,” Jones wrote. “But it is also possible that this change was the result of state and county efforts to remove ineligible voters.”

Whatever the reason for it, the discrepancy led the court to “seriously question how many voters on [PILF’s] list are, in fact, deceased,” Jones wrote, and he wouldn’t have voters removed from the rolls based on PILF’s account alone.

“In an election where the margins may be razor-thin, we will not deprive the electorate of its voice without notice or proper investigation on the basis of an ill-framed and speculative venture launched at this late date,” Jones concluded.

That decision was issued on Oct. 20, but PILF filed an amended complaint on Nov. 5. That’s likely the reason for the interest in the lawsuit at this point.

In addition to its original claim, the organization alleged in the amended complaint that between the 2016 and 2018 elections, a total of at least 216 votes were cast “by (or at least in the name of)” people who had died before the election. PILF didn’t provide any evidence for the claim in the complaint, and the group didn’t respond to our request for more information.

It’s certainly possible that some votes have been cast in the name of deceased individuals. But, as we’ve written, in some cases, it is a matter of a relatively small number of people dying in the period between when they sent in a mail-in ballot and Election Day.

Sometimes there are rare cases of fraud, experts told us. “Yes, every once in a while, it turns out that someone votes in the name of someone who’s passed away,” Justin Levitt, a law professor at Loyola Law School and a voter fraud expert, told us for another story we wrote on such claims. “A handful of votes in a sea of millions. It’s not OK, but it doesn’t swing results.”

Levitt and Charles Stewart III, a political science professor at MIT who specializes in elections, both said that claims about large numbers of votes from deceased people often turn out to be due to list-matching or administrative errors, such as confusing two people with identical or similar names.

So, there’s no evidence for claims like the one Gaetz made on Twitter, where he wrote, “The dead vote appears to have swung overwhelmingly for Joe Biden,” above a headline saying 21,000 “Dead People” are on the voter rolls in Pennsylvania. We don’t know whether the 21,000 people on PILF’s list were dead, whether they are still on the voter rolls or whether they voted or for whom.

It’s also worth noting that President-elect Joe Biden was leading Trump by more than 45,000 votes in the unofficial results for Pennsylvania on Nov. 10.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Face   READ IT AND WEEP MISTER CONSPIRACY THEORY. FACE IT TRUMP LOST TO THE WORSE CANDIDATE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES ELECTIONS FOR PRESIDENT.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 08, 2021, 10:50:50 AM
Misleading Claim of Dead Registered Voters in Pennsylvania
By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on November 10, 2020

Quick Take
A misleading claim that more than 21,000 registered voters in Pennsylvania are dead is circulating online. The figure comes from a conservative group that failed to convince a federal judge in October that its list was accurate.

Full Story
Headlines claiming that “21,000 DEAD PEOPLE” are registered to vote in Pennsylvania have been racking up shares on social media amid an effort to spread the unfounded claim that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

High-profile conservative figures — including Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida and President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani — have promoted a story with a similarly suggestive headline.

But the claim is misleading. It’s based on a lawsuit filed by a conservative organization called the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which regularly brings voting-related lawsuits against states.

The case was filed on Oct. 15, about two weeks before Election Day. It alleged that more than 21,000 voters registered in Pennsylvania were dead and asked that the court order the state to remove them from the rolls before the election.

The federal judge hearing the case declined to do so.

Instead, Judge John Jones III cited PILF’s questionable methodology in developing its purported list of ineligible voters, its decision to file the suit at the “eleventh hour,” and the fact that Pennsylvania’s system for stripping deceased voters from the rolls appears to work.

State law requires the health department to notify local election officials when someone over 18 dies, and those officials are required to cancel any corresponding voter registration. The secretary of the commonwealth, against whom the suit was brought, maintains a database where those voter records are updated.

In 2019, officials removed 95,670 deceased voters from the database, according to the secretary of the commonwealth’s annual report on voter registration. In 2018, they removed 91,424. In 2017, they removed 103,913.

Jones noted that more than half of the purportedly deceased voters on a list of 9,300 names PILF sent to the secretary of the commonwealth in May didn’t appear on the list the organization submitted in October.

“To be sure, this could be the result of a number of factors, including inadequacies in [PILF’s] data-mining procedures,” Jones wrote. “But it is also possible that this change was the result of state and county efforts to remove ineligible voters.”

Whatever the reason for it, the discrepancy led the court to “seriously question how many voters on [PILF’s] list are, in fact, deceased,” Jones wrote, and he wouldn’t have voters removed from the rolls based on PILF’s account alone.

“In an election where the margins may be razor-thin, we will not deprive the electorate of its voice without notice or proper investigation on the basis of an ill-framed and speculative venture launched at this late date,” Jones concluded.

That decision was issued on Oct. 20, but PILF filed an amended complaint on Nov. 5. That’s likely the reason for the interest in the lawsuit at this point.

In addition to its original claim, the organization alleged in the amended complaint that between the 2016 and 2018 elections, a total of at least 216 votes were cast “by (or at least in the name of)” people who had died before the election. PILF didn’t provide any evidence for the claim in the complaint, and the group didn’t respond to our request for more information.

It’s certainly possible that some votes have been cast in the name of deceased individuals. But, as we’ve written, in some cases, it is a matter of a relatively small number of people dying in the period between when they sent in a mail-in ballot and Election Day.

Sometimes there are rare cases of fraud, experts told us. “Yes, every once in a while, it turns out that someone votes in the name of someone who’s passed away,” Justin Levitt, a law professor at Loyola Law School and a voter fraud expert, told us for another story we wrote on such claims. “A handful of votes in a sea of millions. It’s not OK, but it doesn’t swing results.”

Levitt and Charles Stewart III, a political science professor at MIT who specializes in elections, both said that claims about large numbers of votes from deceased people often turn out to be due to list-matching or administrative errors, such as confusing two people with identical or similar names.

So, there’s no evidence for claims like the one Gaetz made on Twitter, where he wrote, “The dead vote appears to have swung overwhelmingly for Joe Biden,” above a headline saying 21,000 “Dead People” are on the voter rolls in Pennsylvania. We don’t know whether the 21,000 people on PILF’s list were dead, whether they are still on the voter rolls or whether they voted or for whom.

It’s also worth noting that President-elect Joe Biden was leading Trump by more than 45,000 votes in the unofficial results for Pennsylvania on Nov. 10.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Face   READ IT AND WEEP MISTER CONSPIRACY THEORY. FACE IT TRUMP LOST TO THE WORSE CANDIDATE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES ELECTIONS FOR PRESIDENT.

“Fact-check.org ?????????

Hahahahah.....they’ve been called out and debunked more than you, Prime and straw combines in all your posts since you’ve been here 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2021, 10:56:51 AM
Do you like a ball and chain? LOL.

I train w chains.   Great lifting device. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 08, 2021, 11:03:13 AM
“Fact-check.org ?????????

Hahahahah.....they’ve been called out and debunked more than you, Prime and straw combines in all your posts since you’ve been here 🤣

Fact Check said Biden falling on the stairs was "mostly false".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 08, 2021, 11:05:07 AM
“Fact-check.org ?????????

Hahahahah.....they’ve been called out and debunked more than you, Prime and straw combines in all your posts since you’ve been here 🤣
                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/pennsylvania-president-results
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 08, 2021, 03:13:55 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/07/gallup-survey-shows-largest-increase-democratic-party-affiliation-decade/7114860002/?fbclid=IwAR2YeOqcmHOtEUoFt9r7NnUwHE6lYL_XOaf2YdVRfaokgN9-ehh_gGQ8ffk      oh oh
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 08, 2021, 03:19:56 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/07/gallup-survey-shows-largest-increase-democratic-party-affiliation-decade/7114860002/?fbclid=IwAR2YeOqcmHOtEUoFt9r7NnUwHE6lYL_XOaf2YdVRfaokgN9-ehh_gGQ8ffk      oh oh

More evidence that this country is toast. Dems in full control will just speed up the decline.

We’re lucky to be past our primes. We probably won’t be around when shit really starts swirling down the bowl.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 08, 2021, 03:30:42 PM
More evidence that this country is toast. Dems in full control will just speed up the decline.

We’re lucky to be past our primes. We probably won’t be around when shit really starts swirling down the bowl.
             good point
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 08, 2021, 03:34:03 PM
Fact Check said Biden falling on the stairs was "mostly false".

Yes...this is why I laugh
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Al Doggity on April 08, 2021, 05:18:51 PM
Fact Check said Biden falling on the stairs was "mostly false".

Is this true or a joke?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 08, 2021, 05:26:42 PM
Is this true or a joke?
It's real. Many "news" outlets claimed it was windy that day.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Al Doggity on April 08, 2021, 05:28:37 PM
It's real. Many "news" outlets claimed it was windy that day.

 Can you link to the factcheck one? I can't find it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 08, 2021, 05:38:44 PM
Can you link to the factcheck one? I can't find it.
A quick view of that site doesn't seem to have anything about his trips.
It does have a story debunking his claims about gun control from whatever bullshit he was spewing today.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 08, 2021, 05:47:26 PM
Can you link to the factcheck one? I can't find it.

Apparently not.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 08, 2021, 05:54:07 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 08, 2021, 05:56:43 PM
Apparently not.

Oops, sorry this was the second time. Let me find the “fact check” to the first one. Edit: the link to the first one of within this article

https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/biden-stumbles-up-air-force-one-stairs-avoids-falling-this-time/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Al Doggity on April 08, 2021, 06:18:26 PM
Oops, sorry this was the second time. Let me find the “fact check” to the first one. Edit: the link to the first one of within this article

https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/biden-stumbles-up-air-force-one-stairs-avoids-falling-this-time/

What are you linking here? This paper is notoriously conservative-leaning and they say he fell.  Am I missing the point of your post?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 08, 2021, 06:37:06 PM
What are you linking here? This paper is notoriously conservative-leaning and they say he fell.  Am I missing the point of your post?

Dude, there are viral videos everywhere and within this article damn near face planting 3 times on his way UP the stairs.

The White House’s official stance was “a strong wind was the cause”  paraphrasing
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Al Doggity on April 08, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Dude, there are viral videos everywhere and within this article damn near face planting 3 times on his way UP the stairs.

The White House’s official stance was “a strong wind was the cause”  paraphrasing

The question was whether or not factcheck said it was mostly untrue. You and another poster said that happened just a few posts back.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 05:30:55 AM
     there's nothing as funny as an old man falling up or down stairs. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 05:42:02 AM
     there's no fool like an old fool.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 08:11:49 AM
Funk and his mental TDS along with the MSM makes Trump still the most powerful person in the country... we thank you


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 09, 2021, 10:30:42 AM
Biden isn’t running shit. He’s clearly suffering from dementia and physically spent. He’s a figurehead at best.

The people running the government now are the same ones who ran it under Trump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 10:38:40 AM
Biden isn’t running shit. He’s clearly suffering from dementia and physically spent. He’s a figurehead at best.

The people running the government now are the same ones who ran it under Trump.

Most are Obama appointees and Obama ball lickers and Obama himself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 09, 2021, 10:41:42 AM
Most are Obama appointees and Obama ball lickers and Obama himself

Oballa lickers?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 10:44:58 AM
Oballa lickers?

lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 09, 2021, 11:22:20 AM
Last I checked my stocks were killing it this week. But I know, a Biden induced crash is coming because all of the rich people who got this administration into office want to lose their money.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 11:32:12 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 09, 2021, 12:14:14 PM


Robert Frank is great! I see guys at the gym wearing his t-shirts. Not my style but definitely appreciate the guy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 09, 2021, 12:31:15 PM
Last I checked my stocks were killing it this week. But I know, a Biden induced crash is coming because all of the rich people who got this administration into office want to lose their money.


You set the bar for being retarded, lol. Go back to picking things up and putting them down.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 09, 2021, 12:37:06 PM

You set the bar for being retarded, lol. Go back to picking things up and putting them down.

Haha! I’m sure you’re way more successful than me.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 12:41:34 PM
Robert Frank is great! I see guys at the gym wearing his t-shirts. Not my style but definitely appreciate the guy.
frank is in the hospital, he lost like 80 lbs in a month. they had to remove his colon.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 09, 2021, 12:54:46 PM
frank is in the hospital, he lost like 80 lbs in a month. they had to remove his colon.

He’ll be shredded for summer.

Should’ve worn a mask.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 01:09:33 PM
Last I checked my stocks were killing it this week. But I know, a Biden induced crash is coming because all of the rich people who got this administration into office want to lose their money.

You finally get it. 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 09, 2021, 01:51:50 PM
frank is in the hospital, he lost like 80 lbs in a month. they had to remove his colon.

Another one?  What IS it with bodybuilders and bowel issues??

Francois (showing my age), Meadows, Compton, someone else I forget, this guy...

Low fibre (aka lo fiber ;)) diets?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 02:01:05 PM
“Fact-check.org ?????????

Hahahahah.....they’ve been called out and debunked more than you, Prime and straw combines in all your posts since you’ve been here 🤣

Fact Check a nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by U.S. political players, including politicians, TV ads, debates, interviews and news releases.

Politifact a Pulitzer Prize winning website rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials. Run by editors and reporters from the independent newspaper Tampa Bay Times, Politicfact features the Truth-O-Meter that rates statements as “True,” “Mostly True,” “Half True,” “False,” and “Pants on Fire.”

Snopes an independent, nonpartisan website run by professional researcher and writer David Mikkelson researches urban legends and other rumors. It is often the first to set the facts straight on wild fake news claims.

There is a comprehensive list of fact and bias checking sites.

https://subjectguides.library.american.edu/News-Literacy

If you have proof that FactCheck has been called out and debunked, feel free to post it. If you don't have proof of your claim......well with you that's par for the course.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 02:07:13 PM
Fact Check said Biden falling on the stairs was "mostly false".

Can you provide a screen shot? There appears to be nothing of this nature on the FackCheck.org website.

Snopes rated this incident as true
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 09, 2021, 02:13:22 PM
Fact check, Politifact, Snopes and all the rest spin hard for the liberal ideology and Democrats. They are biased in the extreme. They all belong to the same Poynter fact checking group that repeatedly pounds the drums for the liberal cause. Pulitzer prize has completely lost it's credibility and relevance for many years now. All these entities are propaganda driven.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Fact check, Politifact, Snopes and all the rest spin hard for the liberal ideology and Democrats. They are biased in the extreme. They all belong to the same Poynter fact checking group that repeatedly pounds the drums for the liberal cause. Pulitzer prize has completely lost it's credibility and relevance for many years now. All these entities are propaganda driven.

Are there no conservative leaning fact checking organizations? If not, why not?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
Fact Check a nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by U.S. political players, including politicians, TV ads, debates, interviews and news releases.

Politifact a Pulitzer Prize winning website rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials. Run by editors and reporters from the independent newspaper Tampa Bay Times, Politicfact features the Truth-O-Meter that rates statements as “True,” “Mostly True,” “Half True,” “False,” and “Pants on Fire.”

Snopes an independent, nonpartisan website run by professional researcher and writer David Mikkelson researches urban legends and other rumors. It is often the first to set the facts straight on wild fake news claims.

There is a comprehensive list of fact and bias checking sites.

https://subjectguides.library.american.edu/News-Literacy

If you have proof that FactCheck has been called out and debunked, feel free to post it. If you don't have proof of your claim......well with you that's par for the course.
   you got to humor the coach nobody took it harder when the trumpster lost the election yuuugely.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 09, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/82wVLOj2VnJr9I2ktj/giphy.gif)

Are there no conservative leaning fact checking organizations? If not, why not?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 09, 2021, 03:35:42 PM
   you got to humor the coach nobody took it harder when the trumpster lost the election yuuugely.
   
    would the coach still vote for trump if trump shot him in the middle of fifth avenue.  I'm thinking yes. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Are there no conservative leaning fact checking organizations? If not, why not?

Hilarious seeing those words in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 04:43:45 PM
Fact Check a nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by U.S. political players, including politicians, TV ads, debates, interviews and news releases.

Politifact a Pulitzer Prize winning website rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials. Run by editors and reporters from the independent newspaper Tampa Bay Times, Politicfact features the Truth-O-Meter that rates statements as “True,” “Mostly True,” “Half True,” “False,” and “Pants on Fire.”

Snopes an independent, nonpartisan website run by professional researcher and writer David Mikkelson researches urban legends and other rumors. It is often the first to set the facts straight on wild fake news claims.

There is a comprehensive list of fact and bias checking sites.

https://subjectguides.library.american.edu/News-Literacy

If you have proof that FactCheck has been called out and debunked, feel free to post it. If you don't have proof of your claim......well with you that's par for the course.

Hahahahah....holy shit you’ve out done yourself with this 😂😂😂😂✋
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 04:59:33 PM
Fact Check a nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by U.S. political players, including politicians, TV ads, debates, interviews and news releases.

Politifact a Pulitzer Prize winning website rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials. Run by editors and reporters from the independent newspaper Tampa Bay Times, Politicfact features the Truth-O-Meter that rates statements as “True,” “Mostly True,” “Half True,” “False,” and “Pants on Fire.”

Snopes an independent, nonpartisan website run by professional researcher and writer David Mikkelson researches urban legends and other rumors. It is often the first to set the facts straight on wild fake news claims.

There is a comprehensive list of fact and bias checking sites.

https://subjectguides.library.american.edu/News-Literacy

If you have proof that FactCheck has been called out and debunked, feel free to post it. If you don't have proof of your claim......well with you that's par for the course.

Here..learn something beginning at 8:20. If you really want to learn something. Watch the whole video. I can do this all all day and night

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 09, 2021, 05:15:14 PM
Are there no conservative leaning fact checking organizations? If not, why not?

conservatives don't need fact checks because "facts" are whatever conservatives what to believe and that can change from moment to moment

look at all the idiots who STILL believe all the lies about the election

The Lt. Governor in Georgia recently admitted that the recently passed racist voter suppression law was initiated because they believe the LIES told by Guiliani

They now KNOW that Guiliani was completely LYING yet they still passed these laws

Bottom line - facts are moot to Trumptards

https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-gop-lieutenant-governor-says-043600733.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 09, 2021, 05:29:57 PM
conservatives don't need fact checks because "facts" are whatever conservatives what to believe and that can change from moment to moment

look at all the idiots who STILL believe all the lies about the election

The Lt. Governor in Georgia recently admitted that the recently passed racist voter suppression law was initiated because they believe the LIES told by Guiliani

They now KNOW that Guiliani was completely LYING yet they still passed these laws

Bottom line - facts are moot to Trumptards

https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-gop-lieutenant-governor-says-043600733.html


"Particularly on the left, political thought is a sort of masturbation fantasy in which the world of facts hardly matters." - George Orwell

In other words, words which one realizes will fall upon a deaf ego, you are deserving of Hades. Go ahead, little man. Stay in the womb that is the barrel.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 05:31:14 PM
conservatives don't need fact checks because "facts" are whatever conservatives what to believe and that can change from moment to moment

look at all the idiots who STILL believe all the lies about the election

The Lt. Governor in Georgia recently admitted that the recently passed racist voter suppression law was initiated because they believe the LIES told by Guiliani

They now KNOW that Guiliani was completely LYING yet they still passed these laws

Bottom line - facts are moot to Trumptards

https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-gop-lieutenant-governor-says-043600733.html

How great of a backfire is this thread? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 05:33:14 PM
Hahahahah....holy shit you’ve out done yourself with this 😂😂😂😂✋

Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 09, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
How great of a backfire is this thread?

I do not think Straw should be banned but neither do I think very much of him.   You, my friend are different in that you are a good man.  Me?  I am limited by certain factors that hamper me mentally and physically.  Straw is held back by his belief in himself.

He will not understand that at all but many here will.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 05:36:56 PM
conservatives don't need fact checks because "facts" are whatever conservatives what to believe and that can change from moment to moment

look at all the idiots who STILL believe all the lies about the election

The Lt. Governor in Georgia recently admitted that the recently passed racist voter suppression law was initiated because they believe the LIES told by Guiliani

They now KNOW that Guiliani was completely LYING yet they still passed these laws

Bottom line - facts are moot to Trumptards

https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-gop-lieutenant-governor-says-043600733.html

Back for another ass beating. I just put up a video that dispute your fact checkers with fax how they lie I can also provide about 50 more videos with proof of that you still wanted to debate?

We can also talk about racism all fucking day long. I can’t even to define a  racist
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 05:55:18 PM
Back for another ass beating. I just put up a video that dispute your fact checkers with fax how they lie I can also provide about 50 more videos with proof of that you still wanted to debate?

We can also talk about racism all fucking day long. I can’t even to define a  racist

Walk away from this thread.  It hasn't been your finest hour.  To put it mildly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 05:58:06 PM
How great of a backfire is this thread?

Elite back by now this asshole still can’t back up any of the shit and he still trolls he’s a communist and he doesn’t deny it and he still won’t answer whether he thinks Biden is doing a good job or not and if he thinks he’s doing a good job he won’t say why
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 09, 2021, 06:02:25 PM
How great of a backfire is this thread?

I haven't looked at it all week
For some reason I was banned on Monday (no idea why) and then when I looked this morning I wasn't banned. 

I don't know why the phony coach even made this thread

I've never made a thread asking anyone on here to be banned

He started out this thread by saying "Lies about everything politics and gets caught."

Hey phony coach - go ahead and point out my lies...you have "everything" to choose from

What you'll find it that I posted facts (often they are objectively easy facts such as the MLB All Star Game being moved or that douche bag Gaetz being investigated) but the problem is that the phony coach quite literally can't deal with objective reality

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 06:02:55 PM
Elite back by now this asshole still can’t back up any of the shit and he still trolls he’s a communist and he doesn’t deny it and he still won’t answer whether he thinks Biden is doing a good job or not and if he thinks he’s doing a good job he won’t say why

Must be using your phone.  LOL.  I'll say it.  He's doing a good job.  Jobs numbers were good last month.  Stock market hit an all time high.  Vaccination distribution has been unbelievably well coordinated. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 09, 2021, 06:04:12 PM
I do not think Straw should be banned but neither do I think very much of him.   You, my friend are different in that you are a good man.  Me?  I am limited by certain factors that hamper me mentally and physically.  Straw is held back by his belief in himself.

He will not understand that at all but many here will.

no shit
that's pretty obvious
I'd say you're emotionally "hampered" too

You usually just personally attck me rather than commenting or debating the content of my posts. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2021, 06:05:30 PM
Must be using your phone.  LOL.  I'll say it.  He's doing a good job.  Jobs numbers were good last month.  Stock market hit an all time high.  Vaccination distribution has been unbelievably well coordinated.
You can thank Trump for all that. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 09, 2021, 06:05:59 PM
Elite back by now this asshole still can’t back up any of the shit and he still trolls he’s a communist and he doesn’t deny it and he still won’t answer whether he thinks Biden is doing a good job or not and if he thinks he’s doing a good job he won’t say why

do you think you'll ever actually understand the definition of communist?

I've been self employed since my early twenties and I'll probably pay more income tax for 2020 that your total income

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2021, 06:06:42 PM
You can thank Obama for all that. :)

Agreed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2021, 06:08:50 PM
Agreed.
You spelled Daddy wrong.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 07:17:50 PM
Must be using your phone.  LOL.  I'll say it.  He's doing a good job.  Jobs numbers were good last month.  Stock market hit an all time high.  Vaccination distribution has been unbelievably well coordinated.

Don't say this. It is like pouring water on the Wicked Witch of the West. Coach is melting, melting...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 09, 2021, 07:24:05 PM
no shit
that's pretty obvious
I'd say you're emotionally "hampered" too

You usually just personally attck me rather than commenting or debating the content of my posts.

Highlarious indeed!  Can one expect that your next incredible revelation be that in reading the ingredients on Baby Ruth wrapper you have decrypted the secrets of the Universe?  Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!  (Apologies to Lewis Carroll)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 07:31:33 PM
Here..learn something beginning at 8:20. If you really want to learn something. Watch the whole video. I can do this all all day and night



Watched it. Not impressed! Who is Ben Shapiro? Why should anyone care what he thinks or says? He said nothing to back up his claim that fact checker's are lying. He also didn't, just as you haven't provided us with a link that shows where Fact Checker ever said President Joe Biden's misstep while boarding the plane was false.

Don't know if you are aware of this, but when you are backed into a corner.....you change the subject.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
You can thank Trump for all that. :)

Really? Can you elaborate on this statement? I'm remembering how none of Obama's accomplishments were acknowledged. It was as if Trump was responsible from day one for anything that was viewed as positive. Trump inherited a growing economy from Obama...did you give Obama any credit for this? I think not.

 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
Watched it. Not impressed! Who is Ben Shapiro? Why should anyone care what he thinks or says? He said nothing to back up his claim that fact checker's are lying. He also didn't, just as you haven't provided us with a link that shows where Fact Checker ever said President Joe Biden's misstep while boarding the plane was false.

Don't know if you are aware of this, but when you are backed into a corner.....you change the subject.

Then you didn’t watch it. Don’t care if you’re impressed or not. I’m not here to impress you. The only ones that don’t know that 99% of the “fact checkers” have an agenda are leftist that proven consistently to be on the wrong side of history
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 08:53:06 PM
Must be using your phone.  LOL.  I'll say it.  He's doing a good job.  Jobs numbers were good last month.  Stock market hit an all time high.  Vaccination distribution has been unbelievably well coordinated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-jobless-report-2021-04-01/

Vaccines are a control mechanism

Borders are a fucking disaster with drug and child traffickers being let in as well as Chinavirus positive migrants and untested migrants being let in per Biden

Let me know if you want me to go on...I can
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2021, 08:56:31 PM
Really? Can you elaborate on this statement? I'm remembering how none of Obama's accomplishments were acknowledged. It was as if Trump was responsible from day one for anything that was viewed as positive. Trump inherited a growing economy from Obama...did you give Obama any credit for this? I think not.
No need to elaborate. You gave obama credit for everything positive during Trumps term and everything negative was Trumps fault, we all know that even in your severely advanced age you're duped into believing your tv set.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 09, 2021, 10:59:15 PM
Imagine voting for this.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 09, 2021, 11:27:47 PM
Imagine voting for this.





80mil “votes” my ass 😂😂🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2021, 11:45:45 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-jobless-report-2021-04-01/

Vaccines are a control mechanism

Borders are a fucking disaster with drug and child traffickers being let in as well as Chinavirus positive migrants and untested migrants being let in per Biden

Let me know if you want me to go on...I can

And sadly you will. You have fallen so far down the rabbit hole that there is little chance of you ever getting out. There was a time when I thought you were a reasonably intelligent person. That time has passed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 12:33:06 AM
And sadly you will. You have fallen so far down the rabbit hole that there is little chance of you ever getting out. There was a time when I thought you were a reasonably intelligent person. That time has passed.

No...it’s just history isn’t on you or the MSM’s side. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 06:21:47 AM
Just like the "More Fraud" thread, Coach loses all control of the thread by the time the first page is half way full, it explodes in his face, he gets owned to the moon and back, and continues to stupidly plod along on and on....

As usual.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 10, 2021, 06:49:28 AM
Just like the "More Fraud" thread, Coach loses all control of the thread by the time the first page is half way full, it explodes in his face, he gets owned to the moon and back, and continues to stupidly plod along on and on....

As usual.

Getbig doesn’t care about the opinion of suckers of cock, so tell your story walking, LurkingHomo.

Twink phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 10, 2021, 06:56:27 AM
And sadly you will. You have fallen so far down the rabbit hole that there is little chance of you ever getting out. There was a time when I thought you were a reasonably intelligent person. That time has passed.

Some people, typically the most stupid of the group, never even see the irony in the ridiculous shit they say.

Fucking retarded, brainwashed liberal janitor.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 10, 2021, 07:26:54 AM
   
    would the coach still vote for trump if trump shot him in the middle of fifth avenue.  I'm thinking yes. ::) ::) ::)
           
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 10, 2021, 08:40:51 AM
   
    would the coach still vote for trump if trump shot him in the middle of fifth avenue.  I'm thinking yes. ::) ::) ::)

Well...The truth of this is that the only people that seem capable of voting when they are dead are...wait for it...you know it's coming...Democrats.  ;D

As to liberal or Conservative sources and their adherence to the troof?  If what they print is true it is true.  If it is a canard then it is false. Lately it seems that liberal outlets have their spin cycle set to HIGH.  I trust people I know and speak with in person and/or via the phone.  People I have met and (this part is far from difficult to find) are far more knowledgeable than I.  People  like John.  And yes, John is long gone and as near as I can tell, he has not voted since his passing.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 08:45:51 AM
Getbig doesn’t care about the opinion of suckers of cock, so tell your story walking, LurkingHomo.

Twink phaggot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 08:48:57 AM
Well...The truth of this is that the only people that seem capable of voting when they are dead are...wait for it...you know it's coming...Democrats.  ;D

As to liberal or Conservative sources and their adherence to the troof?  If what they print is true it is true.  If it is a canard then it is false. Lately it seems that liberal outlets have their spin cycle set to HIGH.  I trust people I know and speak with in person and/or via the phone.  People I have met and (this part is far from difficult to find) are far more knowledgeable than I.  People  like John.  And yes, John is long gone and as near as I can tell, he has not voted since his passing.

 ::)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/man-accused-of-illegally-voting-for-trump-under-names-of-dead-mother-and-mother-in-law/2642642/%3famp
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 10, 2021, 08:57:05 AM
::)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/man-accused-of-illegally-voting-for-trump-under-names-of-dead-mother-and-mother-in-law/2642642/%3famp

Foolish boy.  Did you not see the smiley face?  You deserve that which consumes you, boy.  LOL!  You are such a  barrel-boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 09:21:33 AM
Foolish boy.  Did you not see the smiley face?  You deserve that which consumes you, boy.  LOL!  You are such a  barrel-boy.

Apparently being wrong is common with you.   And being stupid. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 10, 2021, 09:24:53 AM
           

You spend a significant amount of your life looking for negative Trump videos on youtube. I imagine you are hiding in your house from the scary chinavirus?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 10, 2021, 09:28:55 AM
Apparently being wrong is common with you.   And being stupid.

You are such a child.  This ain't the real world, you cuntlette.  LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 09:47:41 AM
State ran media


Several New York Times Staff Previously Worked For CCP-Controlled Media: Report

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/several-new-york-times-staff-previously-worked-for-ccp-controlled-media-report_3768622.html

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: keanu on April 10, 2021, 10:02:42 AM
OP lives in a glass house.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 10:43:55 AM
You are such a child.  This ain't the real world, you cuntlette.  LOL!

Real world.... real world...   someone’s life frustrations are coming out.   Limp that weak shit outta here.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
OP lives in a glass house.

More like reality
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Titus Pullo on April 10, 2021, 11:57:17 AM
Joe,

I don't like 240, either.  He's a headcase.

However, I'm dead set against censuring someone for their political beliefs.  Axe someone who advocates things like pedophilia.  Nix accounts that are purely created to troll (e.g., the Mirza types).  But I've yet to see Rob post any one thing or sequence of things that warrants a ban IMHO.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 10, 2021, 12:25:05 PM
Joe,

I don't like 240, either.  He's a headcase.

However, I'm dead set against censuring someone for their political beliefs.  Axe someone who advocates things like pedophilia.  Nix accounts that are purely created to troll (e.g., the Mirza types).  But I've yet to see Rob post any one thing or sequence of things that warrants a ban IMHO.

does 240 still post here?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 12:36:04 PM
does 240 still post here?

Only in their heads apparently since more than one mod has clearly stated that he hasn't been here in years.  Yet some twits still think so.  And even dumber twits get a little time out trip over it..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
Some people, typically the most stupid of the group, never even see the irony in the ridiculous shit they say.

Fucking retarded, brainwashed liberal janitor.

Coach is perfectly capable of handling a discussion with me on his own. He doesn't need your help.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 10, 2021, 01:42:59 PM
Coach is perfectly capable of handling a discussion with me on his own. He doesn't need your help.

And you’re not capable of a discussion without Google.

You sanctimonious, brain dead, liberal janitor prick.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 04:28:23 PM
Joe,

I don't like 240, either.  He's a headcase.

However, I'm dead set against censuring someone for their political beliefs.  Axe someone who advocates things like pedophilia.  Nix accounts that are purely created to troll (e.g., the Mirza types).  But I've yet to see Rob post any one thing or sequence of things that warrants a ban IMHO.

Again, it’s NOT because of his political beliefs, it’s because he a troll that can’t back up the lefts agenda on anything. He’s not capable of having a conversation on Biden’s (or any of the lefts policies). He contributes little to nothing.

I’ve started multiple threads addressing Biden and his executive (Mussolini-like) executive orders of he thinks these will help the country and all we get spin, name calling, Trump bashing (he’s out of office, technically) and republican bashing. He’s only here to annoy. He might not be 240 but he has the exact same traits 240 has/had.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 10, 2021, 04:32:42 PM
Again, it’s NOT because of his political beliefs, it’s because he a troll that can’t back up the lefts agenda on anything. He’s not capable of having a conversation on Biden’s (or any of the lefts policies). He contributes little to nothing.

I’ve started multiple threads addressing Biden and his executive (Mussolini-like) executive orders of he thinks these will help the country and all we get spin, name calling, Trump bashing (he’s out of office, technically) and republican bashing. He’s only here to annoy. He might not be 240 but he has the exact same traits 240 has/had.

stop blaming me just because REALITY kicks you in the balls every day

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 04:50:47 PM
stop blaming me just because REALITY kicks you in the balls every day

Thanks for underscoring my point
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 04:51:56 PM
stop blaming me just because REALITY kicks you in the balls every day

The main problem is even the liberal politicians in my area that I have discussions with cannot answer any questions that I posed to them please try to skate around them just like you do
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 10, 2021, 04:54:47 PM
The main problem is even the liberal politicians in my area that I have discussions with cannot answer any questions that I posed to them please try to skate around them just like you do

maybe your questions are fucking stupid and they've still answered them repeatedly yet you keep asking them over and over again

sound familiar ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2021, 05:04:19 PM
Then you didn’t watch it. Don’t care if you’re impressed or not. I’m not here to impress you. The only ones that don’t know that 99% of the “fact checkers” have an agenda are leftist that proven consistently to be on the wrong side of history

You are great trying to justify your personal beliefs no matter how bizarre they may be. If you have no interest in impressing me, why do you spend so much time trying to convince me that you are right. Honestly, why bother? There is no way in hell I would want to think like you do. I'm guessing you feel the same way about me. Which, by the way, is just fine with me.

Regardless of what you say, I did watch and listen to Shapiro's rapid speed talking which I find exhausting. Have you noticed how he barely opens his mouth when he speaks? It makes him really hard to follow. Do you think that might be intentional? Rachel Maddow is another person who talks like that. At least she's witty and cleaver and excellent at sarcasm. At one point she beat out Hannity in viewership. Ben, on the other hand only rates 13th among radio/podcast show. Well below Maddow's 7th place radio/podcast rating. 

A funny aside. Years ago, Matt Canning and I spoke on the phone. Matt's speech style was hyper-speed just like Ben's. Their political and philosophical views line up as well. It is like one is the other's doppelganger. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 05:06:04 PM
maybe your questions are fucking stupid and they've still answered them repeatedly yet you keep asking them over and over again

sound familiar ?


Truth!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 05:56:47 PM
maybe your questions are fucking stupid and they've still answered them repeatedly yet you keep asking them over and over again

sound familiar ?

Skating again...how’s Biden doing and why. I’ve asked this many times in this simplest of terms
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 05:58:04 PM
You are great trying to justify your personal beliefs no matter how bizarre they may be. If you have no interest in impressing me, why do you spend so much time trying to convince me that you are right. Honestly, why bother? There is no way in hell I would want to think like you do. I'm guessing you feel the same way about me. Which, by the way, is just fine with me.

Regardless of what you say, I did watch and listen to Shapiro's rapid speed talking which I find exhausting. Have you noticed how he barely opens his mouth when he speaks? It makes him really hard to follow. Do you think that might be intentional? Rachel Maddow is another person who talks like that. At least she's witty and cleaver and excellent at sarcasm. At one point she beat out Hannity in viewership. Ben, on the other hand only rates 13th among radio/podcast show. Well below Maddow's 7th place radio/podcast rating. 

A funny aside. Years ago, Matt Canning and I spoke on the phone. Matt's speech style was hyper-speed just like Ben's. Their political and philosophical views line up as well. It is like one is the other's doppelganger.

You are absolutely not even addressing what he said
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 10, 2021, 06:14:47 PM
Did straw clean up the mess yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 10, 2021, 06:40:37 PM
Skating again...how’s Biden doing and why. I’ve asked this many times in this simplest of terms

Weird that you need me to tell you how  Biden is doing

Have you checked his approval rating

it continue to be higher than Trump EVER had

Other than that, I'm pretty sure you have access to the internet and cable TV just like I do

Let me now if you' like me to post how his COVID and Infrastructure plans are polling among Republicans

BTW - I'm still waiting for you to tell me how exactly lifelong Republican Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.    How does that work?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2021, 06:55:02 PM
The story of Coach’s life
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 07:00:23 PM
Weird that you need me to tell you how  Biden is doing

Have you checked his approval rating

it continue to be higher than Trump EVER had

Other than that, I'm pretty sure you have access to the internet and cable TV just like I do

Let me now if you' like me to post how his COVID and Infrastructure plans are polling among Republicans

BTW - I'm still waiting for you to tell me how exactly lifelong Republican Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.    How does that work?

Demographically skewed polls don’t mean shit. I didn’t care what they were with Trump, I don’t care what you think they are with Biden. This is a perfect example of you skating the question. It’s a simple one. Let’s take the big the three

Borders....BTW, where’s AOC on this ?

Second Amendment

The spending spree that had little to with the Chinavirus

Then you can explain how you think the Georgia’s election reform is “voter suppression” with Abrams pushing back on her original comments

And then we can go into Biden’s (and lefts) blatant racism
GO!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 10, 2021, 07:19:27 PM
Watched it. Not impressed! Who is Ben Shapiro? Why should anyone care what he thinks or says? He said nothing to back up his claim that fact checker's are lying. He also didn't, just as you haven't provided us with a link that shows where Fact Checker ever said President Joe Biden's misstep while boarding the plane was false.

Don't know if you are aware of this, but when you are backed into a corner.....you change the subject.

That's a tightly-wound young man - easier to listen to at .75 speed.  I take his point on the difference between lies, errors and opinions though

(And his attempt at a smile/grimace around 15:15 was funny - like he doesn't use that software often or something ;D)

(http://i.postimg.cc/tT2jZtgc/arnie-t2-smile.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 10, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
Did straw clean up the mess yet ?

Grass is 8 inches high and counting.

Neighbors are pissed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 10, 2021, 08:03:51 PM
Demographically skewed polls don’t mean shit. I didn’t care what they were with Trump, I don’t care what you think they are with Biden. This is a perfect example of you skating the question. It’s a simple one. Let’s take the big the three

Borders....BTW, where’s AOC on this ?

Second Amendment

The spending spree that had little to with the Chinavirus

Then you can explain how you think the Georgia’s election reform is “voter suppression” with Abrams pushing back on her original comments

And then we can go into Biden’s (and lefts) blatant racism
GO!

what are you talking about regarding demographically skewed polls ?
It's funny how Trumptards love polls when it favors them and shit on them when they don't
Go ahead and post your proof about "demographically skewed polls" so we know you're just not talking out of your ass  again

BTW - I'm still waiting for you to explain how exactly lifelong Republican Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.   

This is YOUR PREMISE dipshit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2021, 08:20:32 PM
what are you talking about regarding demographically skewed polls ?
It's funny how Trumptards love polls when it favors them and shit on them when they don't
Go ahead and post your proof about "demographically skewed polls" so we know you're just not talking out of your ass  again

BTW - I'm still waiting for you to explain how exactly lifelong Republican Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.   

This is YOUR PREMISE dipshit

Still waiting. Funny, Lurker does the exact same thing as you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 10, 2021, 09:34:12 PM
The story of Coach’s life



The truth is bleak, truly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2021, 05:43:08 AM
You spend a significant amount of your life looking for negative Trump videos on youtube. I imagine you are hiding in your house from the scary chinavirus?
   no dude I fear nothing, at 69 years old I've survived tons of shit in my life, broken bones, dislocations, 8 hip replacement surgeries, open heart surgery, pneumonia 3 times, pulmonary embolisms  plus many other minor distractions. yet I exercise 90 minutes a day 365 days a year. just yesterday I ate lunch at a subway  restaurant and had diner at an applebees so i don't hide in my house .
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 11, 2021, 05:51:30 AM
   no dude I fear nothing, at 69 years old I've survived tons of shit in my life, broken bones, dislocations, 8 hip replacement surgeries, open heart surgery, pneumonia 3 times, pulmonary embolisms  plus many other minor distractions. yet I exercise 90 minutes a day 365 days a year. just yesterday I ate lunch at a subway  restaurant and had diner at an applebees so i don't hide in my house .

Proof that exercise has very limited health benefits.  Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 11, 2021, 06:19:09 AM
Still waiting. Funny, Lurker does the exact same thing as you.

You mean live in reality and deal with common sense everyday?

Or refusing to indulge your endless conspiracy theories and bullshit lies?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2021, 06:32:02 AM
Proof that exercise has very limited health benefits.  Unfortunately.
              true, if you lived at active life style all your life stuff starts to wear out from over use.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 11, 2021, 07:02:29 AM
              true, if you lived at active life style all your life stuff starts to wear out from over use.

This is true

I for one have worn my pecker down to a stub
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2021, 07:06:27 AM
This is true

I for one have worn my pecker down to a stub
    good for you, at least you had fun doing it and in the end that's all that counts
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on April 11, 2021, 08:04:05 AM
    good for you, at least you had fun doing it and in the end that's all that counts

 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 11, 2021, 09:13:13 AM
Proof that exercise has very limited health benefits.  Unfortunately.

Excessive amounts of intense exercise almost certainly has a negative effect. In my experience, minimum effective dosage is the way to go. Once you have a number of years under your belt, hitting each muscle group once a week is fine.

That said, I think moderate exercise like walking is underrated.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 11, 2021, 09:26:56 AM
Excessive amounts of intense exercise almost certainly has a negative effect. In my experience, minimum effective dosage is the way to go. Once you have a number of years under your belt, hitting each muscle group once a week is fine.

That said, I think moderate exercise like walking is underrated.
This^    I now only go walking 1 day a week and my blood pressure is at 112/73.  1-2 weight training days a week maintain muscle mass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 11, 2021, 09:35:59 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2021, 10:12:37 AM
The main problem is even the liberal politicians in my area that I have discussions with cannot answer any questions that I posed to them please try to skate around them just like you do

Which of liberal politicians in your area do you have discussions with? With something like 90 Democratic politicians in California's State Assembly and Senate you have a quite a few to choose from. Or by area do you mean those who are closer to home. Don't you live in Orange county? Huntington Beach Assembly woman, Janet Nguyen is a Republican. Is she a liberal? Isn't Tom Umberg your State Senator? He's a Democrat. Chances are he leans liberal. Both U.S. Senators in California are Democrats, whose ear do you have Diane Feinstein's or Alex Padilla's? Is your Congresswoman, Republican Michele Steel a liberal? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 11, 2021, 10:52:23 AM
Which of liberal politicians your area do you have discussions with? With something like 90 Democratic politicians in California's State Assembly and Senate you have a quite a few to choose from. Or by area do you mean those who are closer to home. Don't you live in Orange county? Huntington Beach Assembly woman, Janet Nguyen is a Republican. Is she a liberal? Isn't Tom Umberg your State Senator? He's a Democrat. Chances are he leans liberal. Both U.S. Senators in California are Democrats, whose ear do you have Diane Feinstein's or Alex Padilla's? Is your Congresswoman, Republican Michele Steel a liberal?



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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Titus Pullo on April 11, 2021, 11:46:50 AM
Only in their heads apparently since more than one mod has clearly stated that he hasn't been here in years.  Yet some twits still think so.  And even dumber twits get a little time out trip over it..

Guilty as charged :/ 

That was me being intellectually lazy.  I saw that idea bandied about, unchallenged, so often that I assumed it was true. 

Oh, well.  My dislike of Rob was his propensity for exaggeration about (gasp!) things actually related to lifting weights, not his politics.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2021, 12:47:43 PM
&t=6s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 11, 2021, 01:02:03 PM
Which of liberal politicians your area do you have discussions with? With something like 90 Democratic politicians in California's State Assembly and Senate you have a quite a few to choose from. Or by area do you mean those who are closer to home. Don't you live in Orange county? Huntington Beach Assembly woman, Janet Nguyen is a Republican. Is she a liberal? Isn't Tom Umberg your State Senator? He's a Democrat. Chances are he leans liberal. Both U.S. Senators in California are Democrats, whose ear do you have Diane Feinstein's or Alex Padilla's? Is your Congresswoman, Republican Michele Steel a liberal?

It must happen at those "secret meetings" he claims he sits in on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 11, 2021, 01:03:04 PM
Guilty as charged :/ 

That was me being intellectually lazy.  I saw that idea bandied about, unchallenged, so often that I assumed it was true. 

Oh, well.  My dislike of Rob was his propensity for exaggeration about (gasp!) things actually related to lifting weights, not his politics.

All good bro.  You owned up.   More than what the other twits I was referring to has done.   :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 11, 2021, 04:39:13 PM
Straw,

Home Depot...5 bags of mulch for $10 this week!

Make your yard pretty.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2021, 04:52:43 PM
Straw,

Home Depot...5 bags of mulch for $10 this week!

Make your yard pretty.

Thanks for the tip. Last year I had mulch blown on at a cost of about $1,300. Of course having someone else do it for me is easier.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2021, 05:17:16 PM
Straw,

Home Depot...5 bags of mulch for $10 this week!

Make your yard pretty.

Maybe he likes his yard looking like a dump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 11, 2021, 05:19:54 PM
Maybe he likes his yard looking like a dump.

He probably uses it like a litterbox for the residentially challenged.  A true display of Liberal Noblesse Oblige. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 11, 2021, 06:58:13 PM
Maybe he likes his yard looking like a dump.

His neighbors are upset.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 11, 2021, 07:56:59 PM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 11, 2021, 08:06:52 PM
I haven’t posted last night and today until now.....still no response
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 11, 2021, 08:22:41 PM
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/03/17/trump-vindicated-as-federal-judge-rules-michigan-secretary-of-state-violated-election-laws-n1433162
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2021, 10:01:26 PM
I haven’t posted last night and today until now.....still no response

Guess you should take some more time off from posting then.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 11, 2021, 10:15:57 PM
Guess you should take some more time off from posting then.  :)

You’re right up there with Strawman 🙂

But since you think you’re smart, answer the question for him
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2021, 11:06:59 PM
You’re right up there with Strawman 🙂

But since you think you’re smart, answer the question for him

Refresh my memory....what question? Never mind. This is stupid. You never answer questions. You change the subject. When someone does answer your dumb ass questions, you ignore the answer. I am not interested in playing this game with you. Have fun with Strawman...although I think he's getting bored with you too. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 07:01:11 AM
Refresh my memory....what question? Never mind. This is stupid. You never answer questions. You change the subject. When someone does answer your dumb ass questions, you ignore the answer. I am not interested in playing this game with you. Have fun with Strawman...although I think he's getting bore with you too.

He continues to ask over and over again, ignoring every time anyone answers.   He's stupid.   You can't break through his delusions.  HAHAHAHA  He will never progress beyond his current mental state.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2021, 07:13:41 AM
     
&t=192s     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Never1AShow on April 12, 2021, 07:15:56 AM
25 pages of posts but only 61 votes?

Oh and Youtube is so scared of reasonable people questioning the fraud that they censor John Eastman and his Steamboat Institute talk.  Watch the hour long video talk linked in this article, very calm, reasonable and knowledgeable.  Why the censorship?

https://spectator.us/topic/youtube-steamboat-institute-interview-john-eastman-election-fraud-trump/
 

Just posts the above link whenever they want "proof" that they won't even watch.

Based on this, I think Strawman (leftist crazy) should be gone as payback for leftist censorship of even very reasonable views on the right
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 08:07:46 AM
Straw,

Home Depot...5 bags of mulch for $10 this week!

Make your yard pretty.

my workers bring their own shit

you should know that

maybe someday you can move out of your mothers basement and get your own place

what do you think, maybe by the time you turn 40?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: wes on April 12, 2021, 08:10:57 AM
cliff notes please someone..........TIA.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 08:35:15 AM
my workers bring their own shit

you should know that

maybe someday you can move out of your mothers basement and get your own place

what do you think, maybe by the time you turn 40?

Did they bring contractor bags and a 10 yard container for all the trash strewn about in the yard?   ;D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 08:40:35 AM
Did they bring contractor bags and a 10 yard container for all the trash strewn about in the yard?  ;D :D
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 09:41:23 AM
Did they bring contractor bags and a 10 yard container for all the trash strewn about in the yard?   ;D :D

you've seen my garage gym
did it look messy to you

perhaps you're thinking about your own house...do you even own property?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 09:46:48 AM
you've seen my garage gym
did it look messy to you

perhaps you're thinking about your own house...do you even own property?

Yes - good garage set up and I have given you credit for that.  No idea about the homeless encampment though around the back.

 ;D :D 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2021, 09:49:04 AM
you've seen my garage gym
did it look messy to you

perhaps you're thinking about your own house...do you even own property?

Speaking of that, I did buy the Ironmaster adjustable bench, with a dip attachment, and an extra fat pad.

Someone had it for 250 bucks with all the attachments.

Haven't decided whether to keep it because the bench is higher off the ground, and hard for me to push unless I set up something on the floor.

Extremely well built piece of equipment though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 09:49:39 AM
Yes - good garage set up and I have given you credit for that.  No idea about the homeless encampment though around the back.

 ;D :D

maybe you're thinking of your neighborhood
I  recall you used to live in the ghetto
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 09:52:04 AM
maybe you're thinking of your neighborhood
I  recall you used to live in the ghetto

Long time ago.  Up and out. 

 ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 09:54:09 AM
Speaking of that, I did buy the Ironmaster adjustable bench, with a dip attachment, and an extra fat pad.

Someone had it for 250 bucks with all the attachments.

Haven't decided whether to keep it because the bench is higher off the ground, and had for me to push unless I set up something on the floor.

Extremely well built piece of equipment though.

Interesting, I find the bench to be too low off the ground and the seat is way too low for any kind of seated pressing (at least for me)

The primary reason I purchased that bench was for the chin up attachment.
Since then I've purchased pretty much all the other attachments (leg extension/leg curl, hyper extension, dip, preacher and foot attachment for decline. 

I think the only exercise I actually use the bench itself for is incline dumbbell curls. 

I do have two sets of their DB handles and but I didn't buy their plates.  I use standard dumbbell plates.
I also bought a few pairs of magnetic plates that are perfect if you want to quickly adjust the weight up or down in relatively small increments. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
Interesting, I find the bench to be too low off the ground and the seat is way too low for any kind of seated pressing (at least for me)

The primary reason I purchased that bench was for the chin up attachment.
Since then I've purchased pretty much all the other attachments (leg extension/leg curl, hyper extension, dip, preacher and foot attachment for decline. 

I think the only exercise I actually use the bench itself for is incline dumbbell curls. 

I do have two sets of their DB handles and but I didn't buy their plates.  I use standard dumbbell plates.
I also bought a few pairs of magnetic plates that are perfect if you want to quickly adjust the weight up or down in relatively small increments.

That's cool about all the attachments.  The thing is a beast in that respect.  I'll check those out.

I haven't tried any incline to test the low seat thing, but I did see it has 3 options for height adjustment there.

I have their DBs that go 10-120.

Quality brand for sure.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2021, 10:01:51 AM
    you can't beat those all in one units for space saving and versatility.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 10:11:40 AM
That's cool about all the attachments.  The thing is a beast in that respect.  I'll check those out.

I haven't tried any incline to test the low seat thing, but I did see it has 3 options for height adjustment there.

I have their DBs that go 10-120.

Quality brand for sure.

I have the superbench pro and it only has two slots for the seat both of which are below the mechanism that allows the bench to be rotated up

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how I can fit in a lat pull/low pulley machine
I assembled this gym piece by piece last year and if I was starting over from scratch with an empty garage I would have set it up a bit different

The only option I have now it to remove some free standing cabinets in my garage to make some more room but if I could get a high/low pulley row I that would pretty much complete the set up.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
I have the superbench pro and it only has two slots for the seat both of which are below the mechanism that allows the bench to be rotated up

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how I can fit in a lat pull/low pulley machine
I assembled this gym piece by piece last year and if I was starting over from scratch with an empty garage I would have set it up a bit different

The only option I have now it to remove some free standing cabinets in my garage to make some more room but if I could get a high/low pulley row I that would pretty much complete the set up.

That makes sense.

The guy who sold me the superbench sold it because he has the pro.  He complained about the same thing, but said he preferred it because it was lower to the ground.  Ultimately that won out for him.

I really didn't even need it, but it was $500 bucks worth of equipment for $250, so I figure I can flip it if I don't keep.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tommywishbone on April 12, 2021, 10:27:30 AM
 I'm eating seafood salad, white rice, chicken chili and Gatorade.

Who's gonna stop me?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 10:33:58 AM
Still nothing...I’ll check back later
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 10:37:25 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warnock-admits-email-false-information-georgia-voting
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 10:43:21 AM
Still nothing...I’ll check back later

When are you going explain why you think that Trumps AG Billy Barr initiated "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

Is lifelong Republican Billy Barr a secret Democrat?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 10:49:33 AM
my workers bring their own shit

you should know that

maybe someday you can move out of your mothers basement and get your own place

what do you think, maybe by the time you turn 40?

Not sure why, but my guess is that Ironat is well passed 40 years old.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
cliff notes please someone..........TIA.

Nah....you would find the cliff notes tedious because that is what they would be. Imagine a conversation about nothing of importance that constantly goes in circles all day long.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 11:26:19 AM
When are you going explain why you think that Trumps AG Billy Barr initiated "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

Is lifelong Republican Billy Barr a secret Democrat?

Or the Supreme Court majority, or the Republican lead Election Staff, or Republican elected governors, etc.. etc.. etc...  all who "stole" the election from Trumpy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 11:32:33 AM
When are you going explain why you think that Trumps AG Billy Barr initiated "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

Is lifelong Republican Billy Barr a secret Democrat?

Still skating....I’ll check back
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:36:09 AM
Guilty as charged :/ 

That was me being intellectually lazy.  I saw that idea bandied about, unchallenged, so often that I assumed it was true. 

Oh, well.  My dislike of Rob was his propensity for exaggeration about (gasp!) things actually related to lifting weights, not his politics.

this is the premise upon with Trump built  his entire political career and is still doing it to this day

he repeats the same lie over and over and over again and eventually the "intellectually lazy" people in this country just assume its true

Case in point:  55% of Republicans believe his 2020 election loss resulted from illegal voting or election rigging

You can see example of people who believe this LIE on this very board

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/majority-republicans-still-believe-2020-election-was-stolen-donald-trump
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:37:30 AM
Still skating....I’ll check back

I have no idea what you're rambling about you fucking moron
I don't go looking for your idiots posts but if I had to guess I suspect is probably something I've already responded to multiple times

that's usually how these things go
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Any citations for the weeds and trash ?   I'm sure the neighbors don't like a BBQ on the lawn, car on blocks, crackheads on the stoop, etc. 

 ;D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 11:41:18 AM
When are you going explain why you think that Trumps AG Billy Barr initiated "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

Is lifelong Republican Billy Barr a secret Democrat?

Read an article this morning about Gaetz. Essentially, the author was reminding everyone that Matt Gaetz has yet to be charged with anything. There is something about Matt that I really don't like, but that doesn't mean he's a pedophile or sex trafficker.

If it is true that he was showing his cronies nude photos while on the job taxpayers pay him to do, his behavior is very juvenile as is that of the other politicians who didn't call him out on it or worse encouraged it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:41:50 AM
Any citations for the weeds and trash ?   I'm sure the neighbors don't like a BBQ on the lawn, car on blocks, crackheads on the stoop, etc. 

 ;D :D

you couldn't afford to live in my zip code

also, there aren't any stoops in my neighborhood you idiot

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:44:35 AM
Read an article this morning about Gaetz. Essentially, the author was reminding everyone that Matt Gaetz has yet to be charged with anything. There is something about Matt that I really don't like, but that doesn't mean he's a pedophile or sex trafficker.

If it is true that he was showing his cronies nude photos while on the job taxpayers pay him to do, his behavior is very juvenile as is that of the other politicians who didn't call him out on it or worse encouraged it.

all I ever said was that he's being investigated which is something  Gaetz himself  confirmed

his buddy Greenberg may be the most corrupt public official in recent memory and his attorney last week indicated that he's ready to make a deal

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 11:45:54 AM
you couldn't afford to live in my zip code

also, there aren't any stoops you idiot

Uh huh.   Trash, garbage, and tumbleweed, crack vials and condoms all over the place.  Sounds like paradise.    ;D :D ;D   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:49:11 AM
Uh huh.   Trash, garbage, and tumbleweed, crack vials and condoms all over the place.  Sounds like paradise.    ;D :D ;D

sounds like you're familiar with it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 11:51:36 AM
all I ever said was that he's being investigated which is something  Gaetz himself  confirmed

his buddy Greenberg may be the most corrupt public official in recent memory and his attorney last week indicated that he's ready to make a deal

Just to be clear, my post about Gaetz was not directed at you per se. I was thinking more about the media in general which much of it seems anxious to fry his horny ass.

In my opinion, one of the reasons many people are hesitant to give someone the benefit of doubt in these situations is they don't want to be wrong (no one likes being wrong) and possibly appear to have supported that kind of behavior.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 11:55:19 AM
Just to be clear, my post about Gaetz was not directed at you per se. I was thinking more about the media in general which much of it seems anxious to fry his horny ass.

In my opinion, one of the reasons many people are hesitant to give someone the benefit of doubt in these situations is they don't want to be wrong (no one likes being wrong) and possibly appear to have supported that kind of behavior.

Fuck that

The right wing media has no problem trying someone in the court of public opinion

This Hillary and Bengazi...just as one example

How did that turn out?

BTW - they've got Greenberg dead to rights.  The dude left a massive paper trail of his crimes

That's why he is pleading out
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: wes on April 12, 2021, 11:57:31 AM
Nah....you would find the cliff notes tedious because that is what they would be. Imagine a conversation about nothing of importance that constantly goes in circles all day long.
You mean like all the threads on getbig?  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 12:11:32 PM
I have no idea what you're rambling about you fucking moron
I don't go looking for your idiots posts but if I had to guess I suspect is probably something I've already responded to multiple times

that's usually how these things go

Yes you do, liar. You fucking responded to it by skating the question when I asked in this thread.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 12:17:35 PM
Fuck that

The right wing media has no problem trying someone in the court of public opinion

This Hillary and Bengazi...just as one example

How did that turn out?

BTW - they've got Greenberg dead to rights.  The dude left a massive paper trail of his crimes

That's why he is pleading out


Hahahahaha....holy shit the hypocrisy in this post is thick. Trumps entire term was about the left trying him in the court of public opinion because they knew they had nothing on him legally so the state ran media you listen too got you to believe what you believe now. What an idiot 😂

Not just him...Kavanugh anyone?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 12:19:12 PM
Uh huh.   Trash, garbage, and tumbleweed, crack vials and condoms all over the place.  Sounds like paradise.    ;D :D ;D

The properties where I live are well kept. It has always been a neighborhood where people take pride in its appearance. This is why it really surprised me when I went out for a walk yesterday evening and passed one house that had an old mattress leaning up against the wall on the front porch. It stood out like a sore thumb.

Around the middle of February, Portland and down the Willamette valley was hit hard with an ice storm. West Linn is sometimes referred to as tree city. In addition to the native trees; firs, pines and oaks, many more have been added to the landscape, either by home owners or the city. Anyway, our city was hit hard by the storm. Trees were down everywhere and many of those that weren't, suffered so much damage they had to be cut down, I was lucky. Aside from a few branches which broke off of the several large trees on my property and littered the ground, I only lost one tree completely and that was a Japanese maple in the back yard which sustained a split trunk and many broken branches.

For a several weeks following the storm, West Linn looked like a war zone. The curbs and parking strips in front of people's homes were pilled high with broken limbs and yard debris. The city hauled all of it away. Now, other then a few scraggly trees and a lot of tree stumps in the meridians and parks you'd almost not know there was an ice storm.

The arborist I have used for tree maintenance for many years took out the split Japanese Maple and cleaned up broken branches in the other trees which had not yet fallen and were a danger. I chose not to pile the storm debris in the street and wait for the city to take it away. The week after the storm, the gardeners hauled away two dump truck loads of tree branches littering my yard.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 12:19:26 PM
Any citations for the weeds and trash ?   I'm sure the neighbors don't like a BBQ on the lawn, car on blocks, crackheads on the stoop, etc. 

 ;D :D

Straw-ville.

That washing machine in the front yard has to go...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7zR9PAOukxs/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 12:27:44 PM
Yes you do, liar. You fucking responded to it by skating the question when I asked in this thread.

I've given you the opportunity to tell me what the fuck you are talking about

apparently you don't even remember

do you remember why you think William Barr is now a Democrat?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 12:29:16 PM
Straw-ville.

That washing machine in the front yard has to go...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7zR9PAOukxs/maxresdefault.jpg)

I would suggest that you get a life but I'm guessing that ship has sailed

maybe you'll find something more interesting to do after you get your next welfare check
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2021, 12:30:45 PM

Hahahahaha....holy shit the hypocrisy in this post is thick. Trumps entire term was about the left trying him in the court of public opinion because they knew they had nothing on him legally so the state ran media you listen too got you to believe what you believe now. What an idiot 😂

Not just him...Kavanugh anyone?
               crybaby kavanaugh  , yeah he's areal man. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
More state ran media lies


Trump Adviser Wants ‘Full Retraction’ From CNN on Gaetz Story

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/trump-adviser-wants-full-retraction-from-cnn-on-gaetz-story_3772441.html

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 12:32:52 PM
I have no idea what you're rambling about you fucking moron
I don't go looking for your idiots posts but if I had to guess I suspect is probably something I've already responded to multiple times

that's usually how these things go

Oh... you know how they go...

"hahahaha"
"you just don't get it"
*crackpot conspiracy theory*
*navarrero report epoch article*
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2021, 12:34:30 PM
      boo hoo hoo, I'm a victim. hillary clinton is mean.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 12:45:03 PM
More state ran media lies


Trump Adviser Wants ‘Full Retraction’ From CNN on Gaetz Story

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/trump-adviser-wants-full-retraction-from-cnn-on-gaetz-story_3772441.html

good job posting a link that no one can read dipshit

Also....Epoch Time ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 12, 2021, 12:47:28 PM
               crybaby kavanaugh  , yeah he's areal man. ::) ::) ::) ::)
And yet he's on the court while she sits at home stewing over all her failures.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
Straw-ville.

That washing machine in the front yard has to go...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7zR9PAOukxs/maxresdefault.jpg)

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
I would suggest that you get a life but I'm guessing that ship has sailed

maybe you'll find something more interesting to do after you get your next welfare check

Now, now, don't get all riled up.  This is Getbig after all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2021, 01:45:13 PM
I would suggest that you get a life but I'm guessing that ship has sailed

maybe you'll find something more interesting to do after you get your next welfare check

There is help online for hoarders. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 01:50:43 PM
There is help online for hoarders. 

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/24e24b8cfa18b8aa6d5e3b3f79a2b9ff/tumblr_o6ojjftaso1rfd7lko1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 02:00:05 PM
good job posting a link that no one can read dipshit

Also....Epoch Time ::) ::)

Turd

An adviser and spokesman for former President Donald Trump called on CNN to retract a story that claimed—citing anonymous sources—that embattled Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, Florida, but was stopped by the former commander-in-chief’s aides.

This @CNN story is complete fake news,” Trump adviser Jason Miller wrote on Twitter. “No such scheduling or meeting request was ever made, and therefore, it could never have been declined. Take note that this story has zero on-the-record sources. It’s literally made-up. We are demanding a full retraction.”

The CNN report, like many stories published during the Trump era, cited “people familiar with the matter.” The report claimed Gaetz, who is reportedly facing a federal investigation for sex trafficking, attempted to visit with Trump in recent days but was rebuffed by Trump’s aides. Going a step further, the article claimed the incident “signals that Gaetz finds himself increasingly isolated” from Trump and other Republicans.

Gaetz has denied allegations that he had a relationship with a 17-year-old girl and other related claims.

Gaetz himself said that the CNN article is false.

This is a total lie. I am on a pre-planned vacation with my fiancée. I was welcomed at Trump Doral days ago. No such meeting was denied nor sought … When can we expect a retraction?” he wrote on Twitter to CNN reporter Gabby Orr.

Gaetz’s spokesman Harlan Hill said the Florida congressman did not request a meeting with Trump this week.

Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself,” Hill told CNN, adding that the congressman has “been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess.”

Trump also recently denied a report from the New York Times claiming Gaetz asked the former president for a pardon when he was still in office.

Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon,” Trump said in a statement last week. “It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him.”

Separately, the House Ethics Committee on April 9 announced it was opening an investigation into Gaetz amid allegations he used illegal drugs and shared photos of women on the House floor.

The Committee is aware of public allegations that Representative Matt Gaetz may have engaged in sexual misconduct and/or illicit drug use, shared inappropriate images or videos on the House floor, misused state identification records, converted campaign funds to personal use, and/or accepted a bribe, improper gratuity, or impermissible gift, in violation of House Rules, laws, or other standards of conduct,” the committee said in a statement.

The Epoch Times has contacted CNN for comment.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
There is help online for hoarders.

Is IroNat a hoarder?
His mother told me he's a deadbeat but I was not aware he was also a hoarder
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 02:24:05 PM
Turd

An adviser and spokesman for former President Donald Trump called on CNN to retract a story that claimed—citing anonymous sources—that embattled Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, Florida, but was stopped by the former commander-in-chief’s aides.

This @CNN story is complete fake news,” Trump adviser Jason Miller wrote on Twitter. “No such scheduling or meeting request was ever made, and therefore, it could never have been declined. Take note that this story has zero on-the-record sources. It’s literally made-up. We are demanding a full retraction.”

The CNN report, like many stories published during the Trump era, cited “people familiar with the matter.” The report claimed Gaetz, who is reportedly facing a federal investigation for sex trafficking, attempted to visit with Trump in recent days but was rebuffed by Trump’s aides. Going a step further, the article claimed the incident “signals that Gaetz finds himself increasingly isolated” from Trump and other Republicans.

Gaetz has denied allegations that he had a relationship with a 17-year-old girl and other related claims.

Gaetz himself said that the CNN article is false.

This is a total lie. I am on a pre-planned vacation with my fiancée. I was welcomed at Trump Doral days ago. No such meeting was denied nor sought … When can we expect a retraction?” he wrote on Twitter to CNN reporter Gabby Orr.

Gaetz’s spokesman Harlan Hill said the Florida congressman did not request a meeting with Trump this week.

Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself,” Hill told CNN, adding that the congressman has “been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess.”

Trump also recently denied a report from the New York Times claiming Gaetz asked the former president for a pardon when he was still in office.

Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon,” Trump said in a statement last week. “It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him.”

Separately, the House Ethics Committee on April 9 announced it was opening an investigation into Gaetz amid allegations he used illegal drugs and shared photos of women on the House floor.

The Committee is aware of public allegations that Representative Matt Gaetz may have engaged in sexual misconduct and/or illicit drug use, shared inappropriate images or videos on the House floor, misused state identification records, converted campaign funds to personal use, and/or accepted a bribe, improper gratuity, or impermissible gift, in violation of House Rules, laws, or other standards of conduct,” the committee said in a statement.

The Epoch Times has contacted CNN for comment.

no one cares what a QAnon newpaper run by a Chinese cult says
and no one cares what Matt Gaetz says and that includes THE TRAITOR who allegedly refused to see the criminal when he was in Florida last week

Maybe Gaetz and THE TRAITOR can share a cell one day

That would save you some time on visiting day
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 12, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
Is IroNat a hoarder?
His mother told me he's a deadbeat but I was not aware he was also a hoarder


Calling names = losing arguments.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2021, 02:59:21 PM
And yet he's on the court while she sits at home stewing over all her failures.
     I think he's an alright judge, but he's still a crybaby. hillary won the popular vote by over 2 million votes but due to a quirk in the system she didn't win the overall. trump got his shot and failed to win a second term. life goes on, for most anyway.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 04:17:58 PM
Is IroNat a hoarder?
His mother told me he's a deadbeat but I was not aware he was also a hoarder

Touche, mon ami.

That's the Getbig spirit!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 04:34:53 PM

Calling names = losing arguments.

what argument?

I can't help it if he's a deadbeat

tell him to get a job
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
More state ran media lies


Trump Adviser Wants ‘Full Retraction’ From CNN on Gaetz Story

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/trump-adviser-wants-full-retraction-from-cnn-on-gaetz-story_3772441.html

"Birds of a feather..."

Jason Miller, one time Trump advisor has his own experience with scandal such as when he had an extramarital affair with a campaign official that resulted in pregnancy and legal a battle focusing on attorneys fees and child support. It is most likely the reason he declined an appointment as communications director during the Trump administration. He was also fired by CNN.

Miller's previous lawsuit didn't turn out as he'd hoped. When Gizmodo Media Group prevailed in a defamation lawsuit brought by Miller. Maybe this suit will go better...maybe not.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 12, 2021, 05:05:56 PM
27 pages of dirty yards
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 05:22:29 PM
"Birds of a feather..."

Jason Miller, one time Trump advisor has his own experience with scandal such as when he had an extramarital affair with a campaign official that resulted in pregnancy and legal a battle focusing on attorneys fees and child support. It is most likely the reason he declined an appointment as communications director during the Trump administration. He was also fired by CNN.

Miller's previous lawsuit didn't turn out as he'd hoped. When Gizmodo Media Group prevailed in a defamation lawsuit brought by Miller. Maybe this suit will go better...maybe not.

Not sure what your point is nor is there a source also, who cares? You’re Strawman level trolling at this point
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 05:24:07 PM
27 pages of dirty yards

27 pages of three triggered communists
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 06:11:04 PM
Not sure what your point is nor is there a source also, who cares? You’re Strawman level trolling at this point

Looks like reality kicked you in the balls again today

Anything you can't understand or don't agree with (which is pretty much everything) is a "troll"



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 06:11:41 PM
27 pages of epic thread backfire
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Never1AShow on April 12, 2021, 06:19:45 PM
     I think he's an alright judge, but he's still a crybaby. hillary won the popular vote by over 2 million votes but due to a quirk in the system she didn't win the overall. trump got his shot and failed to win a second term. life goes on, for most anyway.

Quirk in the system?  That is the system.  It was a fundamental compromise upon which our nation is based.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 06:21:05 PM
Looks like reality kicked you in the balls again today

Anything you can't understand or don't agree with (which is pretty much everything) is a "troll"

Mother.....f**ker, I’ve been waiting for 3 days for you to answer a simple question and you can’t...not even close and neither can the other two fuck heads then you act like you didn’t know what I asked. Fucking Marxist trash
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 06:28:23 PM
Coach my friend, when you accept that for such as Straw, LurkerNoMas and Prime to name but three, ignorance is their point of view.

Given that they are anal ostriches, it is easy to understand their "point of view".   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 06:37:14 PM
Mother.....f**ker, I’ve been waiting for 3 days for you to answer a simple question and you can’t...not even close and neither can the other two fuck heads then you act like you didn’t know what I asked. Fucking Marxist trash

You're playing the same stupid game that you always do

I told you this morning that I have no fucking idea what you're referring to and so tell me your fucking question or STFU

how much you want to bet I've already answered it at least once?

from this morning

I have no idea what you're rambling about you fucking moron
I don't go looking for your idiots posts but if I had to guess I suspect is probably something I've already responded to multiple times

that's usually how these things go
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 06:48:22 PM
Coach my friend, when you accept that for such as Straw, LurkerNoMas and Prime to name but three, ignorance is their point of view.

Given that they are anal ostriches, it is easy to understand their "point of view".

so says the shut-in who admits that he's "limited by certain factors" that hamper him "mentally"

 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 06:49:51 PM
Coach my friend, when you accept that for such as Straw, LurkerNoMas and Prime to name but three, ignorance is their point of view.

Given that they are anal ostriches, it is easy to understand their "point of view".

Great point!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 06:51:15 PM
so says the shut-in who admits that he's "limited by certain factors that hamper me mentally"

 :'( :'(


And yet you are bested by he whom you seek to belittle with your third grade slights, LOL!   Barrel boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 06:51:37 PM
You're playing the same stupid game that you always do

I told you this morning that I have no fucking idea what you're referring to and so tell me your fucking question or STFU

how much you want to bet I've already answered it at least once?

from this morning

Hahahaha...dumbass. You commented on it right after I posted it 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 06:53:04 PM
Great point!!

Thank you, my friend.  You are a good man and Straw?  He is neither. 

Be well, brother!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 06:57:07 PM
Hahahaha...dumbass. You commented on it right after I posted it 🤣

so I have already responded to you question at least once....JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID

dumbass
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 06:59:30 PM
so I have already responded to you question at least once....JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID

dumbass

Do we neeeeeed to call a WAAAAAAAAAAmbulance, boy?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 07:01:51 PM
Do we neeeeeed to call a WAAAAAAAAAAmbulance, boy?

looks like we can add reading comprehension to this list of things that hampers you mentally

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 07:08:17 PM
looks like we can add reading comprehension to this list of things that hampers you mentally

Pathetic, last ditch albeit moronically cumbersome attempt at making lite of my handicaps.  I don't mind. I faced worse than your pussy-assed B.S. in the real world.   My reading comprehension far outstrips anything you are capable of as does my ability to write.  I will admit that sometimes I fail at understanding some stuff here that is colloquial and if my family is around I will seek their help or just ask for an explanation/definition from others here.  There is no shame in not knowing but in your case there is blame, not shame.

But then, every one here already knows this. You however shiver at the stark reality of it all. 

You're a fucking chimp in comparison to me.  But I would hazard you can run faster and are probably better built and better looking.  A man's got to know his limits.

But chimps like you just...Well...They just chimpout.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 07:16:31 PM
Pathetic, last ditch albeit moronically cumbersome attempt at making lite of my handicaps.  I don't mind. I faced worse than your pussy-assed B.S. in the real world.   My reading comprehension far outstrips anything you are capable of as does my ability to write.  I will admit that sometimes I fail at understanding some stuff here that is colloquial and if my family is around I will seek their help or just ask for an explanation/definition from others here.  There is no shame in not knowing but in your case there is blame, not shame.

But then, every one here already knows this. You however shiver at the stark reality of it all. 

You're a fucking chimp in comparison to me.  But I would hazard you can run faster and are probably better built and better looking.  A man's got to know his limits.

But chimps like you just...Well...They just chimpout.

you're the one that wrote that you're mentally impaired (something that is painfully obvious to most of us)

You don't know me at all so I have no idea why you decided to volunteer your opinion that I'm better built and better looking than you...and who even gives a shit.

what a weird fucking thing to say

Serious question - are you schizophrenic?

Is that one of your mental impairments?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
you're the one that wrote that you're mentally impaired (something that is painfully obvious to most of us)

You don't know me at all so I have no idea why you decided to volunteer your opinion that I'm better build and better looking than you...and who even gives a shit

what a weird fucking thing to say

Serious question - are you schizophrenic?

Is that one of your mental impairments?

I have no problem with your silly attempts at insulting me for my physical and mental impairments.  None at all.  Go ahead.  Do your worstest, boy!  LOL!

You only know that which I have told all here and even then you are a pathetic fencer.  As in "fencing" not with boards but swords.  Rapiers.  Not rapists.  Why am I explaining this to you, you should be capable of understanding me and yet...

Besides.  I know more about you than you do about me.  Don't believe me?  Fine.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 07:24:11 PM
I have no problem with your silly attempts at insulting me for my physical and mental impairments.  None at all.  Go ahead.  Do your worstest, boy!  LOL!

You only know that which I have told all here and even then you are a pathetic fencer.  As in "fencing" not with boards but swords.  Rapiers.  Not rapists.  Why am I explaining this to you, you should be capable of understanding me and yet...

Besides.  I know more about you than you do about me.  Don't believe me?  Fine.

don't forget your emotional impairments

that's probably your main issue

no one has that much anger without serious emotional issues

seriously man, are you schizo ?

If so then I'll cut you some slack
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 07:36:27 PM
so I have already responded to you question at least once....JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID

dumbass

Funny, can’t find it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Funny, can’t find it.

not suprising

you couldn't find your ass with two hands and a map

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 07:41:19 PM
so I have already responded to you question at least once....JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID

dumbass

Q:

Demographically skewed polls don’t mean shit. I didn’t care what they were with Trump, I don’t care what you think they are with Biden. This is a perfect example of you skating the question. It’s a simple one. Let’s take the big the three

Borders....BTW, where’s AOC on this ?

Second Amendment

The spending spree that had little to with the Chinavirus

Then you can explain how you think the Georgia’s election reform is “voter suppression” with Abrams pushing back on her original comments

And then we can go into Biden’s (and lefts) blatant racism
GO!

Your answer (skating my questions) :

what are you talking about regarding demographically skewed polls ?
It's funny how Trumptards love polls when it favors them and shit on them when they don't
Go ahead and post your proof about "demographically skewed polls" so we know you're just not talking out of your ass  again

BTW - I'm still waiting for you to explain how exactly lifelong Republican Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2021, 07:45:26 PM
Q:

Demographically skewed polls don’t mean shit. I didn’t care what they were with Trump, I don’t care what you think they are with Biden. This is a perfect example of you skating the question. It’s a simple one. Let’s take the big the three

Borders....BTW, where’s AOC on this ?

Second Amendment

The spending spree that had little to with the Chinavirus

Then you can explain how you think the Georgia’s election reform is “voter suppression” with Abrams pushing back on her original comments

And then we can go into Biden’s (and lefts) blatant racism
GO!

show me which poll is "demographically skewed" and exactly what Abrams quote you're referring to

I'm not going to play more guessing games with you since a majority of the stuff you believe you either just imagined or completely misunderstood

Case in point, your moronic belief that Trump's AG Bill Barr inititated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

that's insane but you believe it

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 08:03:28 PM
show me which poll is "demographically skewed" and exactly what Abrams quote you're referring to

I'm not going to play more guessing games with you since a majority of the stuff you believe you either just imagined or completely misunderstood

Case in point, your moronic belief that Trump's AG Bill Barr inititated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz

that's insane but you believe it

You obviously don’t her no this works. Skating again hahahahahhahahah....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 08:14:45 PM
so says the shut-in who admits that he's "limited by certain factors" that hamper him "mentally"

 :'( :'(

Limited by his vocabulary obviously.  Barrel... real world... typist... word smith.... 
his intellect is one dimensional.  Meaning shallow.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 08:23:12 PM
don't forget your emotional impairments

that's probably your main issue

no one has that much anger without serious emotional issues

seriously man, are you schizo ?

If so then I'll cut you some slack

You mean the cripple on a BBing board constantly wishing BBers would stroke out or black actors would die?

The pussy ass gimp that tries to espouse pseudo intellect but only looks dumber afterwards?

The gimp who has (his words) borrow posting from a friend to reply to simple observations here but yet complete miss the mark?

Yeah,.... he’s crippled in more ways than physical.   Kudos to his family for learning how to stick him on the internet to babysit himself.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2021, 08:26:30 PM
You obviously don’t her no this works. Skating again hahahahahhahahah....

Look at this bullshit.

Midget take your shit and begone.  You lost this thread and the vote. Another failed attempt that blew up in your face.  Throwing up the same tired ass excuses and comments only cements the fact that you are a complete dumbass. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 12, 2021, 08:31:06 PM
not suprising

you couldn't find your ass with two hands and a map


LOL. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

I am of course speaking of you making a funny post, not Coach's quest for truth.   :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 08:36:03 PM
Look at this bullshit.

Midget take your shit and begone.  You lost this thread and the vote. Another failed attempt that blew up in your face.  Throwing up the same tired ass excuses and comments only cements the fact that you are a complete dumbass.

And still waiting
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2021, 08:37:11 PM
You obviously don’t her no this works. Skating again hahahahahhahahah....

Fucking voice to text 😡
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 11:41:32 PM
Not sure what your point is nor is there a source also, who cares? You’re Strawman level trolling at this point

It is not surprising that you don't care. But, as you say, who cares? I don't care if you don't care. One thing that is very clear, my source wasn't the Epoch times. Not that you care. And not that anyone cares what you care or don't care. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 12, 2021, 11:48:03 PM
Fucking voice to text 😡

Does 'modify' not work with voice to text? Excuses, excuses. Maybe you should check this out with those Democratic politicians you mentioned. They might be able to show you how to fix your mistakes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 06:30:35 AM
And still waiting

You are going to keep waiting too because no one is going to repeat themselves over and over for someone too stupid to understand simple logic.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2021, 06:36:51 AM
I hope straw does not think the vote here reflects anything other than the fact that this GB and Welcome to the Thunderdome FUCKFACE!

Censorship and Canceling culture don't fly here. 
 ;) 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 06:49:37 AM
I hope straw does not think the vote here reflects anything other than the fact that this GB and Welcome to the Thunderdome FUCKFACE!

Censorship and Canceling culture don't fly here. 
 ;)

And yet... it wasn't the outcome dumb ass Coach was hoping for with this thread.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 06:50:49 AM
And yet... it wasn't the outcome dumb ass Coach was hoping for with this thread.
   
   what do you expect. it's the coach after all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2021, 06:58:06 AM
And yet... it wasn't the outcome dumb ass Coach was hoping for with this thread.

We as in you and myself,

Straw and myself,

Have all traded endless insults back and forth over the years.

But would NEVER want either of you banned.     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 07:44:52 AM
We as in you and myself,

Straw and myself,

Have all traded endless insults back and forth over the years.

But would NEVER want either of you banned.   

Because you would miss me.

But the "insults" today pale in comparison to what we threw at each other back in the Billy Mimnaugh days.   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2021, 07:49:58 AM
Because you would miss me.

But the "insults" today pale in comparison to what we threw at each other back in the Billy Mimnaugh days.   ;D

He was a trip. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
We as in you and myself,

Straw and myself,

Have all traded endless insults back and forth over the years.

But would NEVER want either of you banned.   
             
    I think we might have a kum bai jah moment here.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 09:32:05 AM
Does 'modify' not work with voice to text? Excuses, excuses. Maybe you should check this out with those Democratic politicians you mentioned. They might be able to show you how to fix your mistakes.

Wtf are you talking about? Go find something from “Politifact” and post it or something lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 09:35:32 AM
so I have already responded to you question at least once....JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID

dumbass

Dumbass,  answer the questions related to Biden’s executive orders regarding policy on the 3 questions I asked you. You voted for him and those that did own this. Don’t answer a question with an irrelevant question. It’s that fucking simple
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Dumbass,  answer the questions related to Biden’s executive orders regarding policy on the 3 questions I asked you. You voted for him and those that did own this. Don’t answer a question with an irrelevant question. It’s that fucking simple
   
      and just like that the hate for your fellow man is back.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
   
      and just like that the hate for your fellow man is back.

Not even going bother. You’re wasting your time with edited videos
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 10:06:31 AM
Not even going bother. You’re wasting your time with edited videos
  you already did. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 10:09:00 AM
  you already did. ;)

I actually bypassed it and didn’t read it. If you asked me what said I couldn’t tell you 🙂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
I actually bypassed it and didn’t read it. If you asked me what said I couldn’t tell you 🙂
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 13, 2021, 10:59:37 AM
We as in you and myself,

Straw and myself,

Have all traded endless insults back and forth over the years.

But would NEVER want either of you banned.   

Having a beer with you guys would be a blast. One of us would have to open Soul's for him though. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 11:07:24 AM
Having a beer with you guys would be a blast. One of us would have to open Soul's for him though. :)

Lmao.....sorry Soulcrusher but that was 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2021, 11:34:18 AM
You obviously don’t her no this works. Skating again hahahahahhahahah....

I know I can't answer questions about things you either imagined or don't understand

So if you want me to comment on "demographically skewed" polls then tell me which poll and post your proof on how it's skewed

I also know no idea what comment by Abrams you're referring to so, again if you want me to comment then post the clip you want me to comment on

Now, I know what will happen

You won't do any of those things and you'll just make more excuses and whine and complain or you'll just disappear like you've done now that I've asked you at least 5 times to support your profoundly stupid statement that Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.   

You've done the same stupid shit for the last 15 years even back when you were MrIntenseOne and JoeLoco

Remember that or did the doctors wipe that from your memory when you had the electroshock treatments?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 11:37:14 AM
I actually bypassed it and didn’t read it. If you asked me what said I couldn’t tell you 🙂

The story of your life whenever any facts are involved. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
I know I can't answer questions about things you either imagined or don't understand

So if you want me to comment on "demographically skewed" polls then tell me which poll and post your proof on how it's skewed

I also know no idea what comment by Abrams you're referring to so, again if you want me to comment then post the clip you want me to comment on

Now, I know what will happen

You won't do any of those things and you'll just make more excuses and whine and complain or you'll just disappear like you've done now that I've asked you at least 5 times to support your profoundly stupid statement that Bill Barr initiated a "dem hit job" on Matt Gaetz.   

You've done the same stupid shit for the last 15 years even back when you were MrIntenseOne and JoeLoco

Remember that or did the doctors wipe that from your memory when you had the electroshock treatments?

Still can’t or won’t answer. As far as Barr, look on the poli forum dumbass. I also find it awfully coincidental that both you and lurker are on and off here at the same time. He can’t answer either
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
I’ll make this even easier on you and Lurker. You “voted” for Biden obviously not knowing what you voted for which is typical of the left, so go ahead and defend anything on here. Soulcrusher started a thread that you and the others of your ilk avoid like the plague


https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=670771.0
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 12:04:10 PM
https://bongino.com/video-allegedly-shows-cnn-director-admitting-network-spreads-propaganda-and-speculation/?fbclid=IwAR2esw05vp7BKBAYBshLhLLnjpgwBClj-DqvwaeoTfk43ck94W39OGlI88o

Straw, Lurker, Prime and others, told ya so
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 12:19:24 PM
"HAHAHAHA"
"You don't get it"
*crackpot delusion*
*epoch article*

Dumbass Coach can't read the first time the question was answered.  Or the tenth time either for that matter.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 13, 2021, 12:22:35 PM
Wtf are you talking about? Go find something from “Politifact” and post it or something lol

Your cursed 'voice to text' apparently because it sometimes screws up your posts. I assumed you knew how to use 'modify' to edit your posts.

I guess if you only know how to post using voice to text, you wouldn't know how to edit your posts after they've been posted. So let me explain how to do this. Above your post, in the upper right is the term "modify". When you select it, it allows you to edit the mistakes you made using voice to text.

Oh, and I didn't use 'Politifact' to provide you these instructions. LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
"HAHAHAHA"
"You don't get it"
*crackpot delusion*
*epoch article*

Dumbass Coach can't read the first time the question was answered.  Or the tenth time either for that matter.

Back for another ass beating.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 12:23:17 PM
Your cursed 'voice to text' apparently because it sometimes screws up your posts. I assumed you knew how to use 'modify' to edit your posts.

I guess if you only know how to post using voice to text, you wouldn't know how to edit your posts after they've been posted. So let me explain how to do this. Above your post, in the upper right is the term "modify". When you select it, it allows you to edit the mistakes you made using voice to text.

Oh, and I didn't use 'Politifact' to provide you these instructions. LOL!

Probably because I don’t care
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 12:25:31 PM
Back for another ass beating.

I haven't gotten one yet, so not sure where you get "another" from.

This thread is evidence you get your ass beat every damn day from posting here.  Epic backfire.  Another failure.

How is that fake birth certificate coming along?   Any more covid assassinations?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 12:37:21 PM
Let’s see if Strawman can put two and two together without using common core


https://rumble.com/vfm3wd-tucker-carlson-blasts-cancel-culture-left-for-trying-to-get-him-pulled-off-.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR0AnlsMiCG3nE4d5ePxcQBRAX5GSg2SEU5g5g-DQcuh9mL-FPGO259Ojt4
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 12:38:40 PM
I haven't gotten one yet, so not sure where you get "another" from.

This thread is evidence you get your ass beat every damn day from posting here.  Epic backfire.  Another failure.

How is that fake birth certificate coming along?   Any more covid assassinations?

Well, like Strawman the more you avoid questions about your boy who you voted for, the worse you look.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 13, 2021, 01:04:30 PM
Coach,

It's hard for Straw to keep up with all the yard and house cleanup he has to do.

He let things go for so long it's a big job.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 01:11:48 PM
Well, like Strawman the more you avoid questions about your boy who you voted for, the worse you look.

I've avoided nothing.  I have already answered your little question before.  More than once.  I don't have to do so again seeing how it won't penetrate that rock head of yours.

Why don't you answer questions for once?

"WAITING... STILL WAITING"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2021, 01:15:12 PM
   
    Biden best u s president in last 5 years.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 01:15:56 PM
Trumpy never saw ratings that good.   :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
I've avoided nothing.  I have already answered your little question before.  More than once.  I don't have to do so again seeing how it won't penetrate that rock head of yours.

Why don't you answer questions for once?

"WAITING... STILL WAITING"

So, if you think Biden is doing a good job on what I’ve asked so far, tell us how and in what way he’s helping this country. Aside from the Obama/Biden built cages, what’s the explanation for letting in Chinavirus positive migrants in and thousands more that weren’t tested. Also, where is Kamala? She was appointed to oversee this but instead went on vacation and still hasn’t visited the borders.

After that, we can move on to 2A 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2021, 01:25:50 PM
Having a beer with you guys would be a blast. One of us would have to open Soul's for him though. :)
:D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on April 13, 2021, 01:38:04 PM
I remember the lead-up to the 2020 election. Earl kept asking Getbig liberals to name the accomplishments Biden had during the 70’s, the 80’s, the 90’s, and the 2000’s. I don’t think that Earl’s question was ever answered.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 13, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
I remember the lead-up to the 2020 election. Earl kept asking Getbig liberals to name the accomplishments Biden had during the 70’s, the 80’s, the 90’s, and the 2000’s. I don’t think Earl’s question was ever answered.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/84b20bcf9ac2e975d287d191a58a9168/tenor.gif?itemid=8127721)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 02:26:06 PM
So, if you think Biden is doing a good job on what I’ve asked so far, tell us how and in what way he’s helping this country. Aside from the Obama/Biden built cages, what’s the explanation for letting in Chinavirus positive migrants in and thousands more that weren’t tested. Also, where is Kamala? She was appointed to oversee this but instead went on vacation and still hasn’t visited the borders.

After that, we can move on to 2A

Already answered that before. 

Where’s your answer?  “STILL WAITING”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 02:35:41 PM
I remember the lead-up to the 2020 election. Earl kept asking Getbig liberals to name the accomplishments Biden had during the 70’s, the 80’s, the 90’s, and the 2000’s. I don’t think that Earl’s question was ever answered.

And after the election nothing has changed
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 13, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not much change in foreign policy from Trump to Biden.

Biden wants a tete a tete with Putin and a withdrawal of all troops from Afghanistan by September.

The ship of state maintains course regardless of Captain.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2021, 03:22:58 PM
Still can’t or won’t answer. As far as Barr, look on the poli forum dumbass. I also find it awfully coincidental that both you and lurker are on and off here at the same time. He can’t answer either

1.  No one here owes anyone an answer to anything so stop whining and begging for me to pay attention to you

2.  Anyone who read my last post can clearly see that I'm willing to entertain your stupidity but you have to be able/willing to engage in a conversation.  I can't read your fucking mind and I have no idea what you're referring to so how the fuck am I supposed to respond

3.  Back to number one- just so it sinks into that pumpkin sized noggin of yours....NO ONE OWES you or anyone else an answer to anything.  Stop whining and acting like a jilted little school girl.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
1.  No one here owes anyone an answer to anything so stop whining and begging for me to pay attention to you

2.  Anyone who read my last post can clearly see that I'm willing to entertain your stupidity but you have to be able/willing to engage in a conversation.  I can't read your fucking mind and I have no idea what you're referring to so how the fuck am I supposed to respond

3.  Back to number one- just so it sinks into that pumpkin sized noggin of yours....NO ONE OWES you or anyone else an answer to anything.  Stop whining and acting like a jilted little school girl.


Did you order the container yet for the trash. ?   Having garbage and trash in the yard w beer cans , crack vials , homeless tents etc not good bro. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 13, 2021, 03:59:38 PM
   
    Biden best u s president in last 5 years.
Typical democrat shill. Retarded.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 13, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Probably because I don’t care

Probably...but you are the one who brought it up.  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 13, 2021, 04:17:44 PM
Let’s see if Strawman can put two and two together without using common core


https://rumble.com/vfm3wd-tucker-carlson-blasts-cancel-culture-left-for-trying-to-get-him-pulled-off-.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR0AnlsMiCG3nE4d5ePxcQBRAX5GSg2SEU5g5g-DQcuh9mL-FPGO259Ojt4

Tucker Carlson is not one of my favorite people. (Truthfully, I cannot stand him). But, I hope he's not pushed off the air or fired by FOX. Every point needs a counterpoint. If all media agreed, this would be very boring and dangerous too.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 06:27:58 PM
Fact Check a nonpartisan, nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by U.S. political players, including politicians, TV ads, debates, interviews and news releases.

Politifact a Pulitzer Prize winning website rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials. Run by editors and reporters from the independent newspaper Tampa Bay Times, Politicfact features the Truth-O-Meter that rates statements as “True,” “Mostly True,” “Half True,” “False,” and “Pants on Fire.”

Snopes an independent, nonpartisan website run by professional researcher and writer David Mikkelson researches urban legends and other rumors. It is often the first to set the facts straight on wild fake news claims.

There is a comprehensive list of fact and bias checking sites.

https://subjectguides.library.american.edu/News-Literacy

If you have proof that FactCheck has been called out and debunked, feel free to post it. If you don't have proof of your claim......well with you that's par for the course.

Going through this thread trying to find where Strawman and Lurker said they had answered (and still can’t find it) I thought I’d address this


https://censortrack.org/organization/factcheck-org

https://censortrack.org/organization/lead-stories

https://censortrack.org/organization/politifact



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2021, 06:35:59 PM
Tucker Carlson is not one of my favorite people. (Truthfully, I cannot stand him). But, I hope he's not pushed off the air or fired by FOX. Every point needs a counterpoint. If all media agreed, this would be very boring and dangerous too.

Tucker is the favorite show of Racists all over this country

&t=522s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 06:44:31 PM
Hahaha this fuckhead is so stupid he can’t get off the broken record gig.  I’ve answered in other threads you mental midget.  Do a search.  Or not.  Just keep asking. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 13, 2021, 06:47:50 PM
Hey Phony Coach

Why are you so interested in what I think?
You constantly beg for my attention and whine like a little bitch if I don't notice you.
Newsflash - I never go looking for your posts just like I don't go looking for dog shit when I'm taking a walk.

I couldn't give a rats ass what you think about ANYTHING

You should do the same
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 13, 2021, 07:56:35 PM
John Oliver is an imported punchable face manlet.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 13, 2021, 08:51:43 PM
Dumbass Coach = broken record.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2021, 08:54:55 PM
Dumbass Coach = broken record.

Because I can’t get an answer
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: wes on April 13, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
Having a beer with you guys would be a blast. One of us would have to open Soul's for him though. :)
OUCH.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 13, 2021, 11:35:51 PM
Straw holding steady at 60%. #Winning!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 14, 2021, 06:06:31 AM
Because I can’t get an answer

Because you obviously didn't read or understand when we gave you one.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 14, 2021, 06:47:17 AM
Having a beer with you guys would be a blast. One of us would have to open Soul's for him though. :)

LÖL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2021, 09:02:43 AM
https://rumble.com/vfnbsd-james-okeefe-confronts-cnn-director-who-admitted-cnn-is-propaganda-he-was-t.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2021, 09:17:16 AM
You guys good with this and why?

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/14/biden-admin-to-put-80000-migrants-in-hotels-at-352-per-bed-per-night/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2021, 10:01:03 AM
https://rumble.com/vfnbsd-james-okeefe-confronts-cnn-director-who-admitted-cnn-is-propaganda-he-was-t.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

Pretty unreal.

People still think the media isn't the enemy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 14, 2021, 10:46:32 AM
Pretty unreal.

People still think the media isn't the enemy.
The lefties on here still won't believe it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2021, 11:04:03 AM
https://rumble.com/vfnbsd-james-okeefe-confronts-cnn-director-who-admitted-cnn-is-propaganda-he-was-t.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

BFD

are we supposed to give a shit

isn't this what Faux News has done since the first day it went on the air and here is what their CEO just said in public (again, we've all known this was true and notice how they no longer even pretend to be "fair and balanced)

Quote
Lachlan Murdoch, the CEO of Fox Corp., said Fox News would serve as "loyal opposition" to President Joe Biden, which he said will boost the network's ratings, NBC News reported.

How about OAN and Newsmaxx - what do you think their agenda is you fucking moron

I'm sure you'll say it's fine for right wing networks to do this but CNN, MSNBC should never be allowed to do the exact same thing

They are all in the exact same business...to get their audience to keep tuning in.

Fuck off
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2021, 11:34:38 AM
BFD

are we supposed to give a shit

isn't this what Faux News has done since the first day it went on the air and here is what their CEO just said in public (again, we've all known this was true and notice how they no longer even pretend to be "fair and balanced)

How about OAN and Newsmaxx - what do you think their agenda is you fucking moron

I'm sure you'll say it's fine for right wing networks to do this but CNN, MSNBC should never be allowed to do the exact same thing

They are all in the exact same business...to get their audience to keep tuning in.

Fuck off

Apparently you missed the premise of CNN’s agenda of making shit up just so dumb fucks like you will believe it like you did for the last four years.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2021, 11:47:15 AM
Going through this thread trying to find where Strawman and Lurker said they had answered (and still can’t find it) I thought I’d address this


https://censortrack.org/organization/factcheck-org

https://censortrack.org/organization/lead-stories

https://censortrack.org/organization/politifact

The gist of these three Free Speech America articles is that these fact checkers are liberal based (leftist) and thus they pick and chose which stories to fact check and which to ignore. I did not read where they claim any of these fact checkers out and out lie or that they make up the facts to support their left leaning viewpoint....and audiences.

My question is, if all the fact checkers are indeed left leaning, why is that? What is keeping the right (conservatives) from developing their own fact checking social media where they can select what they want to check.

I give you a quarter to a half true on this one, Joe. Good find, BTW ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 14, 2021, 11:52:25 AM
A FAUX News, Epoch and Navarroreport watcher crying over CNN propaganda??

Hahaha. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2021, 11:53:58 AM
The jest of these three Free Speech America articles is that these fact checkers are liberal based (leftist) and thus they pick and chose which stories to fact check and which to ignore. I did not read where they claim any of these fact checkers out and out lie or that they make up the facts to support their left leaning viewpoint....and audiences.

My question is, if all the fact checkers are indeed left leaning, why is that? What is keeping the right (conservatives) from developing their own fact checking social media where they can select what they want to check.

I give a quarter to a half true on this one, Joe. Good find, BTW ;D

Sure...lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Never1AShow on April 15, 2021, 04:42:37 AM
A Majority of Voters Think Cheating Affected the Results of the 2020 Election

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/04/14/did-cheating-affect-the-results-of-the-2020-election-a-majority-of-voters-think-so-n1440003
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 07:24:45 AM
A Majority of Voters Think Cheating Affected the Results of the 2020 Election

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/04/14/did-cheating-affect-the-results-of-the-2020-election-a-majority-of-voters-think-so-n1440003

Good stuff especially since the left are so into polls. If you believe polls, I kinda think this puts Biden’s BS approval ratings into prospective

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 07:27:11 AM
The biggest "cheating" never occurred.  Because Republican governors, state election officials, the courts, the SC, the EC all refused to let Trump cheat.

So the tears continue to fall from his dumb ass supporters.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 07:45:36 AM
The biggest "cheating" never occurred.  Because Republican governors, state election officials, the courts, the SC, the EC all refused to let Trump cheat.

So the tears continue to fall from his dumb ass supporters.

lol....because no voter ID, mail in ballots, ballot harvesting and allowing dead people and illegals to vote isn’t cheating🙄
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 15, 2021, 07:51:38 AM
Apparently, Straw’s lawn  is a microcosm of liberal cities under democratic control.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 07:54:33 AM
The biggest "cheating" never occurred.  Because Republican governors, state election officials, the courts, the SC, the EC all refused to let Trump cheat.

So the tears continue to fall from his dumb ass supporters.

This would be one of those “prove it” things or at least some evidence
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 08:17:32 AM
This would be one of those “prove it” things or at least some evidence

Yes it would be.  So "prove it" that Trumpy won.  Any "evidence" of this collective Republican theft from him?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 15, 2021, 08:19:43 AM
Read through the GA law again.

Is the left's position on this that requiring ID for mail in is suppressing minority votes?

Or is there more to it?

I legit want to know the argument.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 08:20:49 AM
Yes it would be.  So "prove it" that Trumpy won.  Any "evidence" of this collective Republican theft from him?
.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
.

Plenty more where this came from
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 08:29:10 AM
.

Plenty more where this came from

You mean an op-ed article?   ::)

No.  Show me the proof and evidence that has been certified and validated in courts or actions of reversal.  Show me where this "theft" is being corrected or at least punishment doled out to the people behind it. 

If you can't, then you don't have PROOF.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
You mean an op-ed article?   ::)

No.  Show me the proof and evidence that has been certified and validated in courts or actions of reversal.  Show me where this "theft" is being corrected or at least punishment doled out to the people behind it. 

If you can't, then you don't have PROOF.

Not an op-ed. This where it began last time where you were all talk no proof or evidence whatsoever. Refute what I just posted if you’re so sure. CNN caught stealing the election as well
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2021, 08:38:40 AM
Apparently you missed the premise of CNN’s agenda of making shit up just so dumb fucks like you will believe it like you did for the last four years.

they didn't make anything up you fucking moron
they did exactly what Faux News has been doing since their first day on the air

They took a real story and then brought in people to muse and speculate about it.
That's what FAUX NEWS does every day

Quote
Chester explained how they overdramatized Trump health issues by bringing in medical experts.

“[Trump’s] that was all speculation – that he was neurologically damaged, and he was losing it. He’s unfit to – you know – whatever. We were creating a story there that we didn’t know anything about. I think that’s propaganda,” he said.hand was shaking or whatever, I think. We brought in so many medical people to all tell a story

I don't expect someone as profoundly stupid as you to understand this

Now, if you want to talk about just making shit up out of thin air and then repeating it over and over and over again...that would be what THE TRAITOR does and you never seem to have a problem with that
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 08:39:05 AM
Not an op-ed. This where it began last time where you were all talk no proof or evidence whatsoever. Refute what I just posted if you’re so sure. CNN caught stealing the election as well

Post the source of this.

Again, no comment on how the GOP itself has declared there was no theft.
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Post by: Kwon on April 15, 2021, 08:42:10 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 08:52:32 AM
they didn't make anything up you fucking moron
they did exactly what Faux News has been doing since their first day on the air

They took a real story and then brought in people to muse and speculate about it.
That's what FAUX NEWS does every day

I don't expect someone as profoundly stupid as you to understand this

Now, if you want to talk about just making shit up out of thin air and then repeating it over and over and over again...that would be what THE TRAITOR does and you never seem to have a problem with that

Can’t recall Fox (which I watch very little of) Newsmax, OANN or any conservative pundits trying to over throw duly elected President or cheat the election. Even now that Biden is the puppet “President” are they doing it and I guess the CNN guy caught with Project Veritas was just an actor?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
Post the source of this.

Again, no comment on how the GOP itself has declared there was no theft.

Post up your evidence that the election was legit. Even with him in office now, just by his (I mean his puppet masters) actions you can they have ZERO clue on what to do and I mean fucking ZERO

Here’s one example

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 09:14:52 AM
Post up your evidence that the election was legit. Even with him in office now, just by his (I mean his puppet masters) actions you can they have ZERO clue on what to do and I mean fucking ZERO

Here’s one example

Post the source you quoted.

STILL WAITING.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2021, 09:14:59 AM
Can’t recall Fox (which I watch very little of) Newsmax, OANN or any conservative pundits trying to over throw duly elected President or cheat the election. Even now that Biden is the puppet “President” are they doing it and I guess the CNN guy caught with Project Veritas was just an actor?

are you fucking kidding me

was your TV broken for the last 6 months ?

Faux News is being sued for the very thing you claim you "can't recall" them doing

And of  course their constant LIES contributed to your fellow TRAITORS literally attacking our Capitol in an attempt to over throw a duly elected  President

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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2021, 09:16:02 AM
Day 13 of Straw filthy yard and trash and garbage strewn about.

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Post by: funk51 on April 15, 2021, 09:19:34 AM
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    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

COVID dilemma: Yacht clubs, golf courses, gated communities: Florida’s pop-up vaccine clinics raise ethical concerns

Looking to 2024: The GOP presidential primary comes to Trump's doorstep in Florida



Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
AP
"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

Analysis: When COVID-19 vaccines were most scarce, seniors in Florida’s wealthiest counties got them at higher rates


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Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, political allies, over the years
On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
Fitting the candidate profile
Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

More: Republican unity? Not so much. Donald Trump goes off-script, hits McConnell, Pence, others

Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

More: Florida sues CDC over cruising as timeline to get cruise ships back in US waters remains unclear

But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
AMY BETH BENNETT/SUN SENTINEL/TNS
DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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Liz Mair, Republican strategist
DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
ANDREA MELENDEZ/THE NEWS-PRESS/USA TODAY,FLORIDA NETWORK
If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 10:37:09 AM
    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

COVID dilemma: Yacht clubs, golf courses, gated communities: Florida’s pop-up vaccine clinics raise ethical concerns

Looking to 2024: The GOP presidential primary comes to Trump's doorstep in Florida



Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
AP
"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

Analysis: When COVID-19 vaccines were most scarce, seniors in Florida’s wealthiest counties got them at higher rates


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Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, political allies, over the years
On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
Fitting the candidate profile
Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

More: Republican unity? Not so much. Donald Trump goes off-script, hits McConnell, Pence, others

Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

More: Florida sues CDC over cruising as timeline to get cruise ships back in US waters remains unclear

But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
AMY BETH BENNETT/SUN SENTINEL/TNS
DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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Liz Mair, Republican strategist
DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
ANDREA MELENDEZ/THE NEWS-PRESS/USA TODAY,FLORIDA NETWORK
If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 10:54:49 AM
Post the source you quoted.

STILL WAITING.


!



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 10:55:30 AM

!

Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2021, 11:07:28 AM
Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t



and he's is being sued for HIS LIES...remember?

Dominion Voting Systems sues Giuliani over election claims

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 11:10:27 AM
and he's is being sued for HIS LIES

Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

Gonna sue or prosecute all of those people as well?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

so

Why hasn't Trump sued CNN?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t



So when asked to post a link to your source, you don't.

Why so scared?   Post your source.   

STILL WAITING
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 11:18:40 AM
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Plenty more where this came from

POST YOUR SOURCE
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 15, 2021, 12:02:00 PM
Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

Gonna sue or prosecute all of those people as well?

Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 12:10:35 PM
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

Oh just stop it.  As if Coach were smart enough to come up with an end-game plan.  As evident here and in other threads, he can't even come up with a now-game plan. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 15, 2021, 12:13:03 PM
    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

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Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
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"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

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Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, political allies, over the years
On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
Fitting the candidate profile
Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter
I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them.
After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

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Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

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But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
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DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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Liz Mair, Republican strategist
DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
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If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021



WTH is all that TDS? HAHAHA!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 15, 2021, 12:14:53 PM
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

I asked the same earlier in the thread.

I would like for Coach to give some projections of the future and possible strategies. What is the game plan?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 15, 2021, 12:16:39 PM
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    desantis will run for president in 2024 and donald junior will be his running mate, if they win, watch for desantis to get killaryied and junior will be president. how's that for a conspiracy theory. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 15, 2021, 12:39:00 PM
I asked the same earlier in the thread.

I would like for Coach to give some projections of the future and possible strategies. What is the game plan?

The only way that this could’ve played itself out is if on January 6 Trump would’ve went on TV and said: “The election was stolen. What is happening now at the Capitol is just and right. I encourage all loyal citizens throughout the United States to stand up for their rights and demand that their elected officials be called to account.” Instead, he condemned the rioters and ordered that “law and order” be restored. At that point, the game was over and Trump was exposed for what he is, a wealthy guy who preferred the status quo to whatever would have come after he “gave the order” that might have sparked a revolution.  Now, the best so-called conservatives can hope for is a drawn out rear-guard action that slows the inevitable march of statism, globalism and multi-nationalism that is upon them although anything short of historical gains in the ‘22 midterm elections will make it start to look like a disorganized rout.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 01:02:31 PM
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

It's already started with Georgia's voter reform and a few other states as well, mostly Red states) IMO, has to be state by state reform following in Georgia's footsteps or similar. The left (as you can see from Strawmans reaction to it mimicking what Abrams and the left saying it's "Racist") because it actually does make it harder to cheat the vote as well as several states getting judgements to examine the Dominion machines before they get wiped clean (unless they wiped them out right after the "election"

Then there's HR1 that had already passed in the house but hopefully will be DOA when it finally hit's the senate. It's a disaster bill that only benefits the left

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1

And now you have the attempt to expand the SCOTUS (been 9 since like 1859) to 13 but from what I understand even if they tried they would need a total of 60 votes and as of now wouldn't even get 50.

Another thing is, the RINO's in the GOP have to go but no matter who's in Democrat's or Republican's there has to be term limits. These fuckers that have been in for 20,30, 40 and FORTY SEVEN YEARS haven't a clue what's going on in this country, fuck, they don't even pay attention to their constituents.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2021, 01:04:15 PM
 :D
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 01:11:31 PM
POST YOUR SOURCE MIDGET. 
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Post by: funk51 on April 15, 2021, 01:44:31 PM
 ;D ;D :o ::) :)
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 02:04:15 PM
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Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2021, 02:19:14 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That pretty much sums it up for our phony "coach"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 02:50:47 PM
When you are scared to post the source of the nonsense you are using, well...   that's pretty much an indication that you are shit out of luck with your argument.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 03:21:45 PM
When you are scared to post the source of the nonsense you are using, well...   that's pretty much an indication that you are shit out of luck with your argument.

Lol.... amazing how that works, isn’t it. I’m not at liberty to post the “source” but feel free to refute it.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 03:23:53 PM
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 03:28:45 PM
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 03:30:15 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Not sure if I had posted this or not


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/03/17/trump-vindicated-as-federal-judge-rules-michigan-secretary-of-state-violated-election-laws-n1433162
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2021, 03:48:25 PM
Has straw cleaned up the refuse and toxic dump his neighbors complained about to the city manager yet ?   Maybe eminent domain or a condemnation proceeding is in his future ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 03:51:22 PM
Too scared to post your source = bullshit op-ed just as I said prior.

You have no idea what "proof" and "evidence" really is.  You  are just a stupid stupid little man.  Since you are so ashamed of the bullshit you posted that you don't want to identify where you got it from, I will do it for you.   It is nothing but an op-ed from the stupid ass Navarro Report site.  Reposted on the dumb ass EchoCheck site which is a sounding board for retards like you.

Fuck you and fuck your weak ass "evidence" too.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 15, 2021, 03:56:54 PM
Not sure if I had posted this or not


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/03/17/trump-vindicated-as-federal-judge-rules-michigan-secretary-of-state-violated-election-laws-n1433162

When did PJ Braun become a media mogul?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
When did PJ Braun become a media mogul?


HAHAHAHAHAHA this retarded midget is scouring the internet for any hint of a post that supports The Big Lie delusion.

Biden and Strawman occupy all that space in his empty head.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 04:03:48 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA this retarded midget is scouring the internet for any hint of a post that supports The Big Lie delusion.

Biden and Strawman occupy all that space in his empty head.

Having a hard time with this? Maybe seek mental help. I can post these docs all day. If this is wrong, refute it. Refute the video 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 04:06:16 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2021, 04:08:22 PM
lol....because no voter ID, mail in ballots, ballot harvesting and allowing dead people and illegals to vote isn’t cheating🙄

It would be cheating except it has never been proved in a court of law....just in the court of public opinion....largely the Republicans opinion and of course your opinion,  which counts for a lot on Getbig because you never hesitate to express it.  ;)
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 04:19:24 PM
Having a hard time with this? Maybe seek mental help. I can post these docs all day. If this is wrong, refute it. Refute the video 🤷‍♂️

HAHAHAHAHA.   Tell us why you are "not at liberty to post the source?"  Is it from one of these top secret meetings you claim you sit in on?
HAHAHAHAHA.  This is where it is from :
https://echocheck.org/fact-check-does-the-navarro-report-prove-evidence-of-vote-fraud-yes/

This is EXACTLY why no one has to refute it.  Navarro Report is bullshit and so are you.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
A Guide To Discussing Politics Like Coach

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2021, 04:32:05 PM
Read through the GA law again.

Is the left's position on this that requiring ID for mail in is suppressing minority votes?

Or is there more to it?

I legit want to know the argument.

I think you will agree that I am one of the 'left', right? I fully support vote by mail and requiring ID including proof of citizenship.

Oregon requires ID to register to vote and requires you register at least 21 days prior to an election in order to vote in that election. We've had plenty of time to refine mail in voting. We've been voting by mail since 1981. In 2004 there was an 84% turnout in the Presidential election. Currently, we are 100 percent vote by mail.

Vote by mail is hardly something new. As of July 2020, five states – Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington – hold elections almost entirely by mail.

In the 2016 general election 27 states had 'no excuse needed' vote by mail. Here is are some maps that show how widespread vote by mail was in 2016. I don't recall Republicans and Trump challenging the validity of vote by mail then.

(https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/earlyvoting_maps.png)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 04:48:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHA.   Tell us why you are "not at liberty to post the source?"  Is it from one of these top secret meetings you claim you sit in on?
HAHAHAHAHA.  This is where it is from :
https://echocheck.org/fact-check-does-the-navarro-report-prove-evidence-of-vote-fraud-yes/

This is EXACTLY why no one has to refute it.  Navarro Report is bullshit and so are you.

LOL...sure. Refute it. You're too easy. If it doesn't come from a leftist source it must not be true....like the last four years. lol. Hang it up pal. You literally have nothing, neither does the MSM. Lot's of voter laws broken in there as well, refute it. Dude, no way in Biden won legit. On it's face without this it doesn't make sense...please
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 04:49:39 PM
A Guide To Discussing Politics Like Coach

And when you get your ass handed to you, this is the best you can do. You debate like liberal politicians. Seriously
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 06:15:58 PM
LOL...sure. Refute it. You're too easy. If it doesn't come from a leftist source it must not be true....like the last four years. lol. Hang it up pal. You literally have nothing, neither does the MSM. Lot's of voter laws broken in there as well, refute it. Dude, no way in Biden won legit. On it's face without this it doesn't make sense...please

Dumbass Coach - "not at liberty to post the source."

Google - "IT'S THE STUPID NAVARRO REPORT"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 06:17:23 PM
And when you get your ass handed to you, this is the best you can do. You debate like liberal politicians. Seriously

I didn't get my ass handed to me.   ::)   Mr. I Can't Reveal My Sources Because They Are As Stupid As Me.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 06:19:19 PM
I didn't get my ass handed to me.   ::)   Mr. I Can't Reveal My Sources Because They Are As Stupid As Me.

Great nothing answer. 100% handed to you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 07:45:33 PM
Great nothing answer. 100% handed to you.

NAVARRO REPORT!!!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2021, 07:56:49 PM
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2021, 08:22:01 PM
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: POB on April 15, 2021, 09:46:49 PM
Coach right or wrong at least you stay true to what u believe in that personality trait is disappearing in people
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 16, 2021, 12:57:41 AM
Coach right or wrong at least you stay true to what u believe in that personality trait is disappearing in people

Thats really not a good trait. "right or wrong"? I'd say thats a negative trait
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 07:17:14 AM
Thats really not a good trait. "right or wrong"? I'd say thats a negative trait

Negative?  More like completely tiny mind obsessing, always wrong, daily humiliation, low intellect mouth breathing neanderthal trait.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 08:01:34 AM
Negative?  More like completely tiny mind obsessing, always wrong, daily humiliation, low intellect mouth breathing neanderthal trait.

If I’m wrong then prove me wrong...lol. (Waiting for some name calling a meme)

Straw hasn’t, the detective hasn’t, you haven’t, the MSM hasn’t, no one has 🤷‍♂️

I let it go but you keep resurrecting the thread by trolling me. Prove it, it’s that simple. Debunk everything I’ve posted, 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 16, 2021, 08:12:08 AM
I think you will agree that I am one of the 'left', right? I fully support vote by mail and requiring ID including proof of citizenship.

Oregon requires ID to register to vote and requires you register at least 21 days prior to an election in order to vote in that election. We've had plenty of time to refine mail in voting. We've been voting by mail since 1981. In 2004 there was an 84% turnout in the Presidential election. Currently, we are 100 percent vote by mail.

Vote by mail is hardly something new. As of July 2020, five states – Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington – hold elections almost entirely by mail.

In the 2016 general election 27 states had 'no excuse needed' vote by mail. Here is are some maps that show how widespread vote by mail was in 2016. I don't recall Republicans and Trump challenging the validity of vote by mail then.

(https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/earlyvoting_maps.png)

Ok, but that isn't what I asked.

Obviously you have common sense on this subject, but others do not.  This is why we've seen the MLB, Hollywood boycott, Biden (the left) calling it Jim Crow on steroids, democratic senators feigning outrage, etc.....So obviously there's a issue.

So, to restate, what do they feel is racist or suppressing about this law?

A read through of the law suggests there isn't any suppression, only that the left keeps repeating it that there is.  I legit want to know what their argument for it is.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 08:13:28 AM
If I’m wrong then prove me wrong...lol. (Waiting for some name calling a meme)

Straw hasn’t, the detective hasn’t, you haven’t, the MSM hasn’t, no one has 🤷‍♂️

I let it go but you keep resurrecting the thread by trolling me. Prove it, it’s that simple. Debunk everything I’ve posted,

I don't have to prove you wrong when you can't post evidence or proof of your claims.  I point blank challenged you not to post any op-ed articles and rely on proof and evidence.  Instead you regurgitated that stupid Navarro report and then tried to hide the source of it so no one would know how full of shit you are.  You are obviously too stupid to understand what facts, proof and evidence are.

No has to prove you wrong.  You do that all by yourself. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 08:18:16 AM
I don't have to prove you wrong when you can't post evidence or proof of your claims.  I point blank challenged you not to post any op-ed articles and rely on proof and evidence.  Instead you regurgitated that stupid Navarro report and then tried to hide the source of it so no one would know how full of shit you are.  You are obviously too stupid to understand what facts, proof and evidence are.

No has to prove you wrong.  You do that all by yourself.

Then you know what evidence is and BTW,

https://bongino.com/cnn-loses-over-half-of-audience-since-inauguration/?fbclid=IwAR3CMCN1AmKHK3GiWbD3rK7TrtO9Ho6jbpPAdR83WcUNLzHmAg6oOyCeBq8
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 08:19:12 AM
I don't have to prove you wrong when you can't post evidence or proof of your claims.  I point blank challenged you not to post any op-ed articles and rely on proof and evidence.  Instead you regurgitated that stupid Navarro report and then tried to hide the source of it so no one would know how full of shit you are.  You are obviously too stupid to understand what facts, proof and evidence are.

No has to prove you wrong.  You do that all by yourself.


Not an op-Ed article you fuckwit. You didn’t even read it lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 08:25:39 AM

Not an op-Ed article you fuckwit. You didn’t even read it lol

Uhh... yeah.  It is EXACTLY an op-ed article.   

I read enough just to realize it was full of shit and then researched the source of it and saw it came from Navarro Report.  Which is a sounding board for retards just like you.  You attempted to hide where it came from in an effort to give it legitimacy because you knew that no one with an IQ over their age would have believed anything coming from Navarro Report.

Stupid stupid little man.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Flexacon on April 16, 2021, 08:35:52 AM
Haven't followed this thread, but 34 pages! Strawman is taking up a lot of real estate in some peoples heads.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 09:09:37 AM
   
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       when the circus comes to town.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2021, 09:15:33 AM
Haven't followed this thread, but 34 pages! Strawman is taking up a lot of real estate in some peoples heads.

Im more interested in the garbage and dump he let his yard turn in to.  Sounds like a pig sty. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 09:18:26 AM
Uhh... yeah.  It is EXACTLY an op-ed article.   

I read enough just to realize it was full of shit and then researched the source of it and saw it came from Navarro Report.  Which is a sounding board for retards just like you.  You attempted to hide where it came from in an effort to give it legitimacy because you knew that no one with an IQ over their age would have believed anything coming from Navarro Report.

Stupid stupid little man.

Lol....no you didn’t. Liar

You’ve bought into the MSM so much you have no idea what fact or fiction is. Tell us more about the facts and TDS for past four years...lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 10:09:22 AM
    winning or whining, we love the 2 nd amendment  folks remember that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 10:23:04 AM
    winning or whining, we love the 2 nd amendment  folks remember that.

LOL....Liberals debating the 2A is always hilarious  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2021, 10:25:01 AM
If we dont hear from Straw for awhile . . . .

 ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 16, 2021, 10:25:57 AM
  winning or whining, we love the 2 nd amendment  folks remember that.


Good to see Funk still posting from East Bumfuck Pa. BLM right Funk? hahaha



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 16, 2021, 10:29:29 AM
If I’m wrong then prove me wrong...lol. (Waiting for some name calling a meme)

Straw hasn’t, the detective hasn’t, you haven’t, the MSM hasn’t, no one has 🤷‍♂️

I let it go but you keep resurrecting the thread by trolling me. Prove it, it’s that simple. Debunk everything I’ve posted,

For the LAST TIME dipshit...asking someone to prove you're wrong is the strategy of a loser who can't prove his point

I'll give you a very simple example so maybe even you will be able to understand

The Loch Ness Monster is really a submarine driven by Bigfoot.....Prove me wrong

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 10:33:19 AM
For the LAST TIME dipshit...asking someone to prove you're wrong is the strategy of a loser who can't prove his point

I'll give you a very simple example so maybe even you will be able to understand

The Loch Ness Monster is really a submarine driven by Bigfoot.....Prove me wrong

lol...oh boy lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 10:33:36 AM

Good to see Funk still posting from East Bumfuck Pa. BLM right Funk? hahaha
   great to be here kwon 3, any day above ground is a good day. who's that picture of your boyfriend  ??? ::) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 10:36:58 AM
For the LAST TIME dipshit...asking someone to prove you're wrong is the strategy of a loser who can't prove his point

I'll give you a very simple example so maybe even you will be able to understand

The Loch Ness Monster is really a submarine driven by Bigfoot.....Prove me wrong

Russian Collusion was real...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 10:42:59 AM
.

You realize Mark Twain was a Republican...right? lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 16, 2021, 10:47:02 AM
Russian Collusion was real...

correct and we got even more proof of that in the last few days

Prove me wrong

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/548447-treasury-manafort-russian-intelligence-trump-campaign-2016

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2021, 10:54:31 AM
correct and we got even more proof of that in the last few days

Prove me wrong

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/548447-treasury-manafort-russian-intelligence-trump-campaign-2016

There is not a single allegation that Russia changed any votes etc. 

Face it, and I know libs in my personal life who still cant grasp this - Hillary was a TERRIBLE candidate.   She was hated and loathed.  Why don't you grasp this. 

Russia or not, people hated that witch and still do.   Well most.  Not you of course who love that fat lesbian corrupt hog.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 16, 2021, 10:58:01 AM
There is not a single allegation that Russia changed any votes etc. 

Face it, and I know libs in my personal life who still cant grasp this - Hillary was a TERRIBLE candidate.   She was hated and loathed.  Why don't you grasp this. 

Russia or not, people hated that witch and still do.   Well most.  Not you of course who love that fat lesbian corrupt hog.

They don't have to change votes to influence an election (and they did hack into some voting or registration systems)

The Trump campaign shared data with Russia and promoted Russian agenda on Ukraine in their platform (kind of weird that Trump went out of his way to add that into the platform given that he was too lazy to even write a new one in 2020)

Prove me wrong
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2021, 11:01:06 AM
They don't have to change votes to influence an election (and they did hack into some voting or registration systems)

The Trump campaign shared data with Russia and promoted Russian agenda on Ukraine in their platform (kind of weird that Trump went out of his way to add that into the platform given that he was too lazy to even write a new one in 2020)

Prove me wrong

Hillary was loathed.   She was the worst candidate among the bunch.  All that came out regarding her emails just confirmed what people already knew.   She was a disgusting wretch and old bag.   

Trump got lucky having her as his opponent.  She was and will always be disgusting and gross. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 11:07:26 AM
You realize Mark Twain was a Republican...right? lol

You realize that the lower courts, governors, election officials, SC majority, Bill Barr and Mike Pence who stated Biden clearly won are Republicans right?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 11:10:10 AM
Lol....no you didn’t. Liar

You’ve bought into the MSM so much you have no idea what fact or fiction is. Tell us more about the facts and TDS for past four years...lol

Are you claiming I did not look at source up after you repeatedly wouldn’t cite it?
It is a flat out op-Ed piece.   Stupid stupid little man.

Tell us more about fake birth certificates for the past 12 years. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 11:20:41 AM
There is not a single allegation that Russia changed any votes etc. 

Face it, and I know libs in my personal life who still cant grasp this - Hillary was a TERRIBLE candidate.   She was hated and loathed.  Why don't you grasp this. 

Russia or not, people hated that witch and still do.   Well most.  Not you of course who love that fat lesbian corrupt hog.
   trump and hillary c were probably the two worst choices ever foisted on the American people for president . the 2020 choices weren't much better. it's a shame this is the best we can do. these 3 old people are the cream of the crop that we have. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 16, 2021, 11:23:02 AM
They don't have to change votes to influence an election (and they did hack into some voting or registration systems)

The Trump campaign shared data with Russia and promoted Russian agenda on Ukraine in their platform (kind of weird that Trump went out of his way to add that into the platform given that he was too lazy to even write a new one in 2020)

Prove me wrong
fuck you asshole
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 16, 2021, 11:37:46 AM
fuck you asshole

classic loser...all out of ideas

sounds more like something you'd enjoy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 11:43:45 AM
You realize Mark Twain was a Republican...right? lol
                             The History of the GOP: How the Party Changed
Published on: Feb 23, 2020

Skimm2020 GOP Guide hero
Editor’s Note: This guide is part of a two-week series spotlighting the US’s two major political parties. You can read our guide on the evolution of the Democratic Party here.

The Story
The Republican Party looks a lot different compared to when President Abraham Lincoln was in charge.

The Background
America’s two modern-day political parties were founded around the mid-1800s. The Democratic Party goes back to 1828, while the Republican Party formed in 1854 ahead of the Civil War with the goal of making America a pro-industry, free labor society. Its first big policy issue: preventing the spread of slavery.

Tell me more about that.
At the time, the country was split between free labor and slave labor. Republicans, primarily in the northern states, were pro-free labor. As in the egalitarian idea that anyone can succeed in America if they work hard. Republicans’ goal wasn’t to abolish slavery right away, but they felt the country’s economy would be more successful if it relied on a free market. This was at odds with Democrats, who were primarily in southern states where the economy largely relied on slavery. In the mid-1800s as more states wanted to join the Union (aka the northern part of the country), Republicans didn’t want to let in additional slave states. Southern states weren’t on board and ditched the Union. That conflict led to the Civil War.

Yes, I went to history class.
Then you might remember that the Union won. That's reportedly how the Republican Party got its nickname as the GOP – Grand Old Party – to emphasize its Civil War triumph. In the aftermath, Democrats continued to have a big hold on the South. Meanwhile, as the North industrialized, the GOP quickly became synonymous with the business world, and in turn, developed a reputation as the party of the elite. That reputation became especially clear at the turn of the 20th century.

What happened then?
The country’s rapid industrialization sparked the Progressive Era, where working Americans called for more business regulation and safer working conditions. But Republican administrations in the 1920s were worried that policing the business world would hurt the massive economic growth happening at the time. Then came the Great Depression, when the stock market crash caused millions of people to lose their jobs and savings.

How did the government respond?
Republican President Herbert Hoover was criticized for his efforts at addressing the problem, which were seen as wasteful gov spending or not going far enough to help people who were unemployed. He (and the Republican Party throughout recent history) believed in a small federal government. And that Americans would become too reliant on the government and stop working, which could slow down economic growth. By 1932, Americans said ‘we’ve had enough’ and elected Democrat Franklin D Roosevelt as president. Within FDR’s first 100 days in office, he expanded the federal government by signing and rolling out recovery, reform, and relief legislation and programs to help Americans rebound from the economic crisis. Roosevelt’s election and widely-supported legislation hurt the Republican Party’s success for decades: between 1933 and 1980, the GOP only controlled Congress for four years.

We all go through rough patches.
That’s not all. After the Great Depression, the party started losing a significant number of black voters – who were disproportionately affected by the crisis – even though they had largely supported the Republican Party in its early days. But the party seemed to get its mojo back in the 1980s.

Hi, Ronald Reagan.
He was elected in 1980 amid a recession and campaigned as a DC outsider with a fiscally conservative platform that included cutting taxes. That prompted some Democrats who were hurt by the recession to turn red and vote for Reagan. His popularity helped him win reelection and tee up George HW Bush’s road to the White House. By the 1990s, the GOP’s main platform was: government deregulation, lower taxes, and national security. It was also known as a party of conservative family values – opposing gay marriage and abortion. The party also started to embrace more extreme candidates throughout the 2000s.

Why?
The rise of the tea party movement in 2009. It was made up of conservative Republicans who were frustrated with the country’s economic situation, calling for lower taxes and government spending. Tea party lawmakers also had more extreme views on issues like abortion and immigration, and helped cause the 2013 government shutdown – the first in nearly two decades – to prevent funding for the Affordable Care Act. The movement helped Republicans take control of the House in 2010, making clear that their message of frustration resonated with voters. Which we also saw in the 2016 election with President Trump.

The Trump Effect
Trump’s 2016 election win started a new era for the Republican Party. One that is more extreme, more populist, and is marked by loyalty to Trump above all else. His rise has been primarily driven by middle- and working-class Americans who have been fed up with the federal government for years.

What exactly were they frustrated about?
One issue was the economy. The 2008 financial crisis caused millions of people to lose their jobs and homes – and it left some deep scars that were still present during the 2016 campaign. Lower-income Americans – who were also struggling under stagnant wages – had a particularly hard time recovering from the recession.

What else?
The working class was also hurt by previous administrations’ trade and immigration policies. Admins on both sides of the aisle supported free trade deals with countries around the world. Studies show some of those agreements, along with automation, led to millions of US manufacturing jobs getting cut. Meanwhile, Republican and Democratic admins became more lax on immigration policies, including allowing undocumented immigrants to get work authorization. As some American workers were losing jobs, this stoked fears that immigrants could exacerbate the problem.

How exactly does Trump play into all this?
Similar to Reagan, he resonated with the middle and working classes by pitching himself as a DC outsider who could fix their financial situations. He vowed to “drain the swamp,” disrupt the status quo, bring jobs back to the US, and implement strict immigration policies. He also promised to appoint anti-abortion Supreme Court judges – something that appealed to the party’s longstanding religious conservative base. And he’s delivered with things like the USMCA, the US-China trade deal, strict immigration rules like the “zero tolerance” policy, and a strong economy with historically-low unemployment. Supporters have seen him as a breath of fresh air for the Republican Party and politics as a whole. Opponents believe he’s put the party on a downward spiral.

Examples, please.
Americans on both sides of the aisle think Trump’s policies are controversial. Critics say his trade policies have hurt Americans by raising prices on consumers. And that some of his immigration policies are xenophobic and go against the US’s moral responsibility to welcome immigrants. They also point to policies that have made the US more isolated from the rest of the world, like Trump ditching the Iran nuclear deal and Paris climate agreement.

And Trump’s perspective is…
He isn’t afraid to speak his mind – he regularly insults political opponents (see: “Little Marco,” “Pocahontas”) and criticizes Democrats for focusing on “witch hunts” like impeachment and the Mueller investigation. And his critics say his behavior shows a disregard for the rule of law. See: his interference in a Justice Department investigation involving his friend and his lawyer’s quid pro quo defense during the Senate impeachment trial. No matter what side you’re on, it’s undeniable that his rhetoric has changed what’s typical for presidential behavior – with some warning that it’s only made the US even more partisan.

So what do Republican voters think?
That he’s followed through on his campaign promises on everything from the economy to foreign policy. Trump can rally his base by being direct and blunt, especially on topics like immigration. He knows Republican allies won’t push back against his divisive language. And when they do, he attacks them publicly – those who have tried have lost reelection campaigns, retired from politics, or left the party. His support may become especially visible at this week’s Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). Skimm Notes explains the history and significance of the conference.


The Impact
Trump’s presidency has reshaped the Republican Party’s priorities. His administration has largely focused on populist issues, like trade and immigration. Overall, Republicans are happy with Trump’s presidency: 90% of Republican voters support him. On top of that, more than four in 10 want the party to continue the trend Trump has started: becoming more populist. If Trump wins reelection, expect him to keep pushing this agenda.

But some Americans are worried that Trump’s extreme policies and language could further sow division in the country. More partisanship = less compromise, meaning it’s less likely that lawmakers and the president can work together on legislation.

Another thing on watch: how the Republican Party evolves, especially because the party is largely made up of older, white men. But the US electorate is becoming more diverse. The minority population is drastically growing and younger Americans are becoming a major voting bloc – but these groups tend to align more with the Democratic Party. Long-term, this could lead to a decline of the GOP, as US voters may elect fewer Republicans into local, state, and federal government positions. And that could impact policies that affect your day-to-day, from taxes to reproductive rights.

theSkimm
The Republican Party started 150-plus years ago trying to unite the US and end slavery. Throughout its history, it’s consistently emphasized the American dream, trying to equip workers with the tools to succeed. Today, the party has transformed into one centered around the current president more so than specific ideals and policies.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 16, 2021, 12:25:31 PM
How the republican party has changed?  The democrats are complete lunatics!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2021, 12:38:57 PM
There is not a single allegation that Russia changed any votes etc. 

Face it, and I know libs in my personal life who still cant grasp this - Hillary was a TERRIBLE candidate.   She was hated and loathed.  Why don't you grasp this. 

Russia or not, people hated that witch and still do.   Well most.  Not you of course who love that fat lesbian corrupt hog.

I hope you aren't saying Russian interference in the 2016 election is okay because no votes were changed. IMO their interference is a problem regardless if worked or not.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:04:19 PM
ARIZONA
Margin: 10,000 votes
• 12% of mail-in ballots were in need of adjudication
• Dominion said that the machines weren’t connected to the internet, but we
have an affidavit that says it was
• Illegals who voted – 36,400 estimated by pro-immigrant group (American
Immigration Council estimates that 276,840 illegals are in AZ)
• Jury rolls, which would show illegals and felons, were pulled from public
view within months of the election
• Uniform exclusion of Republicans from meaningful observation on mail-in
ballots and adjudication
• 22,903 mail-in ballots received the day before the ballot was sent out
• 2,000 voters registered to a vacant lot
• 150,000 people registered in Maricopa County after the registration
deadline
• 103,000 ballots in Maricopa were sent for electronic adjudication – no
Republican observation
• 50,000 votes pre-loaded onto the voting system for Biden ahead of the
opening of the polls

GEORGIA
Margin: 10,000 votes
• Video of Ruby and Shay Freeman at midnight taking the boxes out from under the covered table after all Republicans, observers & media were told to leave; further video has them surreptitiously passing USB drives at the counting facility
o That is the time of the 200,000 vote bump for Biden
 Similar interruptions at same time in other states with similar
results
o Official claimed a Watermain Break necessitated everyone leaving – a
lie to get the Republican observers and media to leave at 10:30pm
• Republican districts had the President running 3-5% behind local legislators
– and they do not believe that is possible
• Machines were internet-connected at poll-pad and tabulator level, and we
also have testimony that the Denver help desk for Dominion worked on
machine problems remotely connected to them
• Ware County demonstrated a 13%-point reduction from Trump with
fractional votes and assigned to Biden for a 26% differential
• Coffee County Election Administrator shows in a video how to manipulate
cast ballots, change votes, and vote blank ballots as a function of the Dominion machine design and the electronic “Adjudication Process”
o Coffee County could not replicate the ballot tallies after re-running them repeatedly, and thus did not certify their 15,000 votes
o Gwinnett and Fulton County had a greater than 80% adjudication rate, where the administrator determines the voter “intent” with no oversight, no accountability and no transparency
 .0008% is the maximum fail rate allowed by the FEC – not 80%  2,560 felons with uncomplete sentences registered to vote and cast their
vote; Geels 1 Para. 29
 66,247underagepeopleregisteredtovoteandillegallyvoted;Geels1Para.24
 2,423 unregistered people voted; Geels 1 Para. 12 (please note the number in the affidavits is about double what we cited in the petition.

 4,926 registered voters who registered to vote in another state after their Georgia registration date voted; Braynard Para. 12, 19-20
 395 people voted in Georgia and also voted in another state; Braynard Para. 14, 23-24
 15,700 people voted in Georgia but changed their address before the election; Braynard Para. 12, 19-20
 40,279 people voted who failed to re-register to vote in their new county in time after moving from one county to another; Davis Para. 25
 1,043 people voted who illegally said a post office box was their residence; Braynard Para. 12, 21-22
 98peoplewhoregisteredtoo latetovoteintheelection;Geels1Para.19
 10,315peoplewhohaddiedbythetimeoftheelection;Geels1Para.28
o For absentee ballots:
 305,701 absentee ballots were applied for too early; Geels 1 Para. 13
 92absenteeballotswerecas tandreturnedtotheSecreta ryofStatebeforethe voter actually requested an absentee ballot; Geels 1 Para. 14
 13 absentee ballots were sent to people who weren’t yet registered to vote; Geels 1 Para. 22
 2,664absenteeballotsweresenttovoterstooearly;Geels1Para.18
 50 absentee ballots were cast and returned to the Secretary of State before
absentee ballots could even be sent to voters; Geels 1 Para. 17
 At least 2 absentee ballots were cast even though the voter’s request for an
absentee ballot was denied. Geels 1 Para. 21
o The historical rejection rate of absentee ballots in Georgia:
 For the November 3 Presidential Election, 1,768,972 absentee ballots were mailed out by the Secretary of State. Geels 2 Para. 9
 Of those, 1,317,000 absentee ballots were returned

 The number of absentee ballots returned in this election was 500% more than for the 2016 General Election, and 400% more than for the 2018 General Election. Geels 2 Para. 15
 Over a million more absentee ballots were returned than the 2016 and 2018 General Elections. Geels 2 Para. 9
 For the 2016 General Election, 6,059 absentee ballots were rejected, a 2.90% rejection rate. Geels 2 Para. 10
 For the 2018 General Election, 7,889 absentee ballots were rejected, a 3.46% rejection rate. Geels 2 Para. 10
 For this election, only 4,471 absentee ballots were rejected, a 0.34% rejection rate, despite a nearly sixfold increase in the number of ballots returned.. Geels 2 Para. 12
§ Had the statutory procedure for signature matching, voter identity, and eligibility verification been followed for this election, we should have seen between 38,250 to 45,626 absentee ballots rejected - far more that Mr. Biden’s margin of victory. Geels 2 Para. 16\
• No Chain of Custody – 600,000
• 726,560 have moved mailing addresses with no change of address card –
voted where
o 275,050 have filed as moving out of the state but are still registered
o 17,000 are living outside of GA and voted in GA
• 96,600 mail-in ballots with no return record were counted
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
WISCONSIN
Margin: 20,000 votes “Indefinitely Confined” Voters
• Total is 226,000 for 2020
• Usual is 20,000 previous – standardized list
• No early voting – absentee voting is intentionally difficult
• Indefinitely Confined has always been strictly administered, and was
designed for nursing homes and home confinement
• Secretary of State tried to expand IC to include COVID
• WI Supreme Court ruled that COVID does not count as IC
• Secretary of State convinced 200,000+ to claim IC status anyway
• Court ruled again that this is illegal, and asked that those falsely claiming IC
status be identified
• Our team, in a selected audit, found that 25% of those claiming IC status
had active lifestyles as depicted on FaceBook
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:08:02 PM
MICHIGAN
Margin: 147,000 votes
• Wayne County originally rejected certifying their vote because 71% of their reporting precincts didn’t balance – only certified after threatening & doxing the Republican Board of Electors Members who declined certification
o This means that less than 30% of their votes were accurate
o Even the UN would not accept this rate in a third world country
• Antrim County forensics report
o shows a 68% error rate (FEC legal maximum error rate is 0.0008%) o 81% rejection rate
o Adjudication and Security records missing – a violation of state
retention laws requiring records to be maintained for 22 months
• Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson sent a Board of Electors directive on 1
December to all Country Clerks telling them to delete all electronic records
– in violation of state law records retention
• Republican Speaker Lee Chatfield called for a subpoena in Wayne County to examine the voting machines – with a due date of January 6th
• 17,367 Dead Voters – first, middle, last, date, obit confirmed -


OVERVOTE IN MICHIGAN BY TOWNSHIIP
Precinct/Township % Turnout
 City of North Muskegon 781.91%
   Zeeland Charter Township 460.51%
 Grout Township 215.21%
 City of Muskegon 205.07%
 City of Detroit 139.29%
 Spring Lake Township 120.00%
 Greenwood Township 100.00%
 Hart Township 100.00%
 Leavitt Township 100.00%
 Newfield Township 100.00%
 Otto Township 100.00%
 Pentwater Township
100.00%
  Shelby Township 100.00%
 Shelby Township
City of Hart
100.00%
  Weare Township 100.00%
 100.00%
  Grand Island Township 96.77%
 Tallmadge Charter
Township     95.24%
Fenton   93.33%
Bohemia Twp   90.63%
Zeeland Charter Township 90.59%
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:09:25 PM
PENNSYLVANIA Margin: 68,000 votes
• 682,777 mail-in votes were counted without a single Republican viewing and verifying the ballots, names, signatures, addresses, dates
• Secretary of State election results removed from the internet
• Primary – 1.98m mail-in votes sent out, 2.4m mail-in votes counted
• Mail-in Ballots Retuned: 1,462,302
• Mail-in Ballots Not Returned: 360,846
• Mail Ballots Returned Before Mailed Date: 22,686
• Mail Ballots Returned on Same Day They Were Mailed: 32,591
• Mail Ballots Processed for Confirmed Dead: 8,021
• Mail Ballots Mailed Before They Were Requested: 4,894
• Mail Ballots Processed Before They Were Requested: 735

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2021, 01:10:55 PM
yadda, yadda, yadda....yawn.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
yadda, yadda, yadda....yawn.

Doesn’t matter he “won” as long as he “won”. Kinda makes you wonder the ones that voted for him didn’t cheat their way through life the same as Biden

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:27:51 PM
You realize that the lower courts, governors, election officials, SC majority, Bill Barr and Mike Pence who stated Biden clearly won are Republicans right?

Not interested in what they have to say..they refused to even hear the evidence. They wanted the to keep the status quo establishment and they got it. Pence went against his constitutional duties (something the left could careless about). Now the country you hate is getting destroyed
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:30:18 PM
House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/16/house-will-vote-make-washington-state-tuesday/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 16, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
classic loser...all out of ideas

sounds more like something you'd enjoy
you piece of crap
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 01:38:15 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/other/turley-blasts-democrats-for-planning-hostile-takeover-of-the-supreme-court-with-court-packing-proposal/vi-BB1fHoBS

Turley is a liberal
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
Not interested in what they have to say..they refused to even hear the evidence. They wanted the to keep the status quo establishment and they got it. Pence went against his constitutional duties (something the left could careless about). Now the country you hate is getting destroyed

No one cares what you have to say since you can't differentiate between fact and op-ed.

But keep whining and crying.  You have a lot of practice at it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 02:56:46 PM
No one cares what you have to say since you can't differentiate between fact and op-ed.

But keep whining and crying.  You have a lot of practice at it.

Apparently you care because you keep responding to my posts. Refute the above numbers or should we go onto voter laws that were broken?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 16, 2021, 03:25:36 PM
have you & straw nothing better to do with your lives than compete with each other to become the whingiest snowflake ?
       
                                                     it's the timeless art of seduction. the trumptards and the snowflakes. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 03:28:52 PM
have you & straw nothing better to do with your lives than compete with each other to become the whingiest snowflake ?

When I’m not at the warehouse at work about 90% from my phone
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 03:33:12 PM
       
                                                     it's the timeless art of seduction. the trumptards and the snowflakes. ;)

Not sure what the point of the video was but if they kicked a service dog they deserve to get their ass kicked
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 03:34:26 PM
       
                                                     it's the timeless art of seduction. the trumptards and the snowflakes. ;)

Should I post up some video of BLM and Antifa Harassing people at restaurants and going into their businesses? Just let me know
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2021, 03:37:18 PM
It’s Friday.   Has she cleaned up the debris and clutter all strewn Inbthe yard of the dump.  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on April 16, 2021, 03:42:28 PM
have you & straw nothing better to do with your lives than compete with each other to become the whingiest snowflake ?

The upside is that the arguing amongst the half dozen or so here has kept Shizzo’s gimmick busy, so we don’t have to be abused by the stupidity he posts under his main account.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 16, 2021, 03:53:40 PM
I think Coach has conclusively proved there was something fishy about those Dominion machines. I don't see anyone proving him wrong!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 16, 2021, 05:57:18 PM
It’s Friday.   Has she cleaned up the debris and clutter all strewn Inbthe yard of the dump.  :D

Nope.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2021, 06:53:32 PM
Ok, but that isn't what I asked.

Obviously you have common sense on this subject, but others do not.  This is why we've seen the MLB, Hollywood boycott, Biden (the left) calling it Jim Crow on steroids, democratic senators feigning outrage, etc.....So obviously there's a issue.

So, to restate, what do they feel is racist or suppressing about this law?

A read through of the law suggests there isn't any suppression, only that the left keeps repeating it that there is.  I legit want to know what their argument for it is.

I gather you read all 98 pages of Georgia's revised voting laws. Do you live in Georgia? I live in Oregon, Georgia's laws don't impact my voting rights.

Anyway, you are right. I didn't directly answer your question. The main reason is because I don't know who 'they' are or what they feel is racist and suppressive about the law. I did quickly read through an outline article that the NY Times published regarding the changes in Georgia's law. Some of them seem kind of petty like not being able to provide water to folks waiting in line to vote. Placing fewer drop boxes also makes no sense to me. Technically, inconveniencing voters by giving them fewer options to vote is a form of suppression. If the drop boxes are shown to be less conveniently located for minorities only, that would be racist. It is unclear to me why anyone would want to make it more difficult for people to vote...but it sure looks like Georgia's governor does want to do this.

I originally answered you with information about how well Oregon's vote by mail system has worked and worked for quite a long time because fortunately, voting laws are under each state's jurisdiction. It is highly unlikely Oregon will adopt Georgia's model. Also, I there is very little chance I will move to Georgia. The only way their laws might affect me is if because of them a national election doesn't go the way I would have liked.

There is so much crap going on in the world a person can make themselves crazy by getting involved in everything. Better to choose the battles which are most important to you and most likely to personally affect you or people close to you.

So there you have it. Another non answer to the actual question you asked. Hopefully, you get why I chose this easy out.  :)

 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2021, 08:33:18 PM
Apparently you care because you keep responding to my posts. Refute the above numbers or should we go onto voter laws that were broken?

Pointing out stupid you are doesn’t constitute “caring”. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2021, 10:30:25 PM
Pointing out stupid you are doesn’t constitute “caring”.

You’re not looking good..quit making an ass of yourself. Seriously, it’s embarrassing
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 06:00:15 AM
You’re not looking good..quit making an ass of yourself. Seriously, it’s embarrassing

"HAHHAHAHAHAA"
"You just don't get it"
*crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory*
*Epoch article*
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!

Keep trying midget. We have not even reached the 90 day mark of Biden's term yet.  You might consider pacing yourself a little if you want to last until the end.  You wouldn't survive another stroke at this point. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2021, 06:53:10 AM
I gather you read all 98 pages of Georgia's revised voting laws. Do you live in Georgia? I live in Oregon, Georgia's laws don't impact my voting rights.

Anyway, you are right. I didn't directly answer your question. The main reason is because I don't know who 'they' are or what they feel is racist and suppressive about the law. I did quickly read through an outline article that the NY Times published regarding the changes in Georgia's law. Some of them seem kind of petty like not being able to provide water to folks waiting in line to vote. Placing fewer drop boxes also makes no sense to me. Technically, inconveniencing voters by giving them fewer options to vote is a form of suppression. If the drop boxes are shown to be less conveniently located for minorities only, that would be racist. It is unclear to me why anyone would want to make it more difficult for people to vote...but it sure looks like Georgia's governor does want to do this.

I originally answered you with information about how well Oregon's vote by mail system has worked and worked for quite a long time because fortunately, voting laws are under each state's jurisdiction. It is highly unlikely Oregon will adopt Georgia's model. Also, I there is very little chance I will move to Georgia. The only way their laws might affect me is if because of them a national election doesn't go the way I would have liked.

There is so much crap going on in the world a person can make themselves crazy by getting involved in everything. Better to choose the battles which are most important to you and most likely to personally affect you or people close to you.

So there you have it. Another non answer to the actual question you asked. Hopefully, you get why I chose this easy out.  :)

I wouldn't call that a non-answer, you tried to provide some examples.

I read the law and am paying attention because of a few factors - one, MLB got involved, but also mostly because I repeatedly stated on the political board for years that big tech and a dishonest media are our biggest threats.

This is just another example.  We have a situation here where something is taken as fact, but the "fact" cannot be backed up.  So, for the average idiot, Georgia just made the most racist, suppressing voter laws to stop minority votes, and it was so bad that MLB moved the all star game, Wil Smith moved his move etc........

That stuff does not "heal" a nation, and it was preventable.

What really happened was MLB caved into corporate pressure, and the corporations played into a flat out lie by Biden: "Jim Crow on steroids", and it went from there.

And the real reason this is getting so much attention should be obvious - Georgia is a swing state.  If it was a red/blue state, you'd hear very litte.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 08:42:03 AM
"HAHHAHAHAHAA"
"You just don't get it"
*crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory*
*Epoch article*
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!

Keep trying midget. We have not even reached the 90 day mark of Biden's term yet.  You might consider pacing yourself a little if you want to last until the end.  You wouldn't survive another stroke at this point.

Yep, and as predicted it didn’t take long for him/them to start the literal destruction of this country that YOU helped create. We warned you, turd
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 10:10:56 AM

"HAHHAHAHAHAA"
"You just don't get it"
*crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory*
*Epoch article*
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!

Keep trying midget. We have not even reached the 90 day mark of Biden's term yet.  You might consider pacing yourself a little if you want to last until the end.  You wouldn't survive another stroke at this point. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2021, 11:08:12 AM
"HAHHAHAHAHAA"
"You just don't get it"
*crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory*
*Epoch article*
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!

Keep trying midget. We have not even reached the 90 day mark of Biden's term yet.  You might consider pacing yourself a little if you want to last until the end.  You wouldn't survive another stroke at this point.
    yeah, you would think they would show more respect to the president of the united states. if not the man then the high office.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 11:15:12 AM
    yeah, you would think they would show more respect to the president of the united states. if not the man then the high office.

Especially when the Republican establishment preferred him over their own candidate.   :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 11:19:56 AM
    yeah, you would think they would show more respect to the president of the united states. if not the man then the high office.

Give me a policy....er, I mean executive order you agree with and why
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2021, 11:25:08 AM
Give me a policy....er, I mean executive order you agree with and why
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 11:34:48 AM
   


I don’t want your bullshit videos. I want to hear from you, straw, lurker and prime
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 11:46:09 AM
I wouldn't call that a non-answer, you tried to provide some examples.

I read the law and am paying attention because of a few factors - one, MLB got involved, but also mostly because I repeatedly stated on the political board for years that big tech and a dishonest media are our biggest threats.

This is just another example.  We have a situation here where something is taken as fact, but the "fact" cannot be backed up.  So, for the average idiot, Georgia just made the most racist, suppressing voter laws to stop minority votes, and it was so bad that MLB moved the all star game, Wil Smith moved his move etc........

That stuff does not "heal" a nation, and it was preventable.

What really happened was MLB caved into corporate pressure, and the corporations played into a flat out lie by Biden: "Jim Crow on steroids", and it went from there.

And the real reason this is getting so much attention should be obvious - Georgia is a swing state.  If it was a red/blue state, you'd hear very litte.

Every vote counts because hypothetically, it only takes one vote to win an election. That being said, it usually takes several (swing) states to decide the election results.

What is interesting is that if there is no voter suppression in Georgia's new election laws, why are folks getting so worked up about it? They must believe the new laws could change the outcome of future elections....in this case, favoring republicans over democrats. If this is correct, democrats will have to up their game at getting out the vote. They've been pretty successful at this in the past with lots of one on one contacts and the support of labor unions and the folks who belong to them.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 11:53:24 AM
Yep, and as predicted it didn’t take long for him/them to start the literal destruction of this country that YOU helped create. We warned you, turd

To be fair....it is rather soon to conclude there will be a destruction of the country. Wishful thinking on your part?

Seems Biden is walking back his original stance on immigration in response to the surge in boarder crossings. The Biden administration struck an agreement with Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras to temporarily increase border security in an effort to stop migrants from reaching the US border.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 11:59:22 AM
    yeah, you would think they would show more respect to the president of the united states. if not the man then the high office.

Very funny. I was under the impression that turnabout is fair play. Of course you are being sarcastic....so it is all good. One difference with President  Biden is that he likely can take the criticism better than Trump did. Trump's ego is way too fragile. He does not deal well with criticism of any kind including taking advice from people he appointed to provide it. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 12:00:43 PM
Give me a policy....er, I mean executive order you agree with and why

Give us 10 that you don't agree with. -Should be an easy task for you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 12:02:44 PM
I don’t want your bullshit videos. I want to hear from you, straw, lurker and prime

For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

Because I am such a nice guy, I listed a few things President Biden has done that I agree with. I fully expect you to disagree.....on principle if for no other reason. That's you prerogative. Let me be very clear with you, I have no intention of engaging in a discussion/argument with you about these policies I've listed.   

I for one am thrilled that the President has reversed 23 Trump policies. Nine of his 11 actions regarding immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies. Trump must be seething over this and that makes me happy. Trump is a bully. I don't like bullies.

President Biden directed each agency to evaluate and submit a strategic plan within 200 days on opportunities to promote and expand access to voter registration and participation

His executive order establishes an interagency working group to propose improvements for recruiting, retaining and supporting national security professions

President Biden imposed sanctions and diplomatic expulsions on Russia in response to the country’s interference in the 2020 US election and the SolarWinds cyberattack.

President Biden revoked a Trump executive order that authorized sanctions on International Criminal Court officials.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

you should know the answer to that by now

the phony "coach" is a certified moron and whiny little bitch
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2021, 12:18:51 PM
Every vote counts because hypothetically, it only takes one vote to win an election. That being said, it usually takes several (swing) states to decide the election results.

What is interesting is that if there is no voter suppression in Georgia's new election laws, why are folks getting so worked up about it? They must believe the new laws could change the outcome of future elections....in this case, favoring republicans over democrats. If this is correct, democrats will have to up their game at getting out the vote. They've been pretty successful at this in the past with lots of one on one contacts and the support of labor unions and the folks who belong to them.

This is the exact point.

They are making it out to be something it isn't to demonize the right, and create the illusion of racism in a swing state.

Democrats state that requiring ID suppresses minority voting, but over 80% of the country wants ID to vote.  But they don't explain why they think this...they just keep repeating it without proof.....but even IF they believe this, they have plenty of time before the next election to mobilize a campaign to get others ID who don't have it.......but they won't, they'll continue to pound the drum of racism.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2021, 12:23:47 PM
    yeah, you would think they would show more respect to the president of the united states. if not the man then the high office.
Aren't you the same senile piece of shit that spent the last 5 years bashing the President? Typical hypocrite democrat. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 12:36:49 PM
This is the exact point.

They are making it out to be something it isn't to demonize the right, and create the illusion of racism in a swing state.

Democrats state that requiring ID suppresses minority voting, but over 80% of the country wants ID to vote.  But they don't explain why they think this...they just keep repeating it without proof.....but even IF they believe this, they have plenty of time before the next election to mobilize a campaign to get others ID who don't have it.......but they won't, they'll continue to pound the drum of racism.

I am a Democrat and I firmly believe folks must provide not only ID but proof of citizenship in order to vote in this country. I seriously doubt that I am the only Democrat that feels this way. Wouldn't it be more accurate for you to post some Democrats state that requiring ID suppresses minority voting.

Looking at this another way, if it is true that minorities are less likely to have adequate ID, then technically requiring ID does suppress their vote. If that's a problem then encourage minorities to acquire legal ID so they can vote. If someone prefers anonymity....they give up the right to vote. It's really pretty simple.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 12:40:54 PM
Give us 10 that you don't agree with. -Should be an easy task for you.

Here comes the Epoch bullshit and NAVARRO REPORT!!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

Because I am such a nice guy, I listing a few things President Biden has done that I agree with. I fully expect you to disagree.....on principle if for no other reason. That's you prerogative. Let me be very clear with you, I have no intention of engaging in a discussion/argument with you about these policies I've listed.   

I for one am thrilled that President has reversed 23 Trump policies. Nine of his 11 actions regarding immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies. Trump must be seething over this and that makes me happy. Trump is a bully. I don't like bullies.

President Biden directed each agency to evaluate and submit a strategic plan within 200 days on opportunities to promote and expand access to voter registration and participation

His executive order establishes an interagency working group to propose improvements for recruiting, retaining and supporting national security professions

President Biden imposed sanctions and diplomatic expulsions on Russia in response to the country’s interference in the 2020 US election and the SolarWinds cyberattack.

President Biden revoked a Trump executive order that authorized sanctions on International Criminal Court officials.

Actually you’ve proven yourself (and Howard) to be a backstabbing asshole. I wanted to address that first
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 01:03:40 PM
Here comes the Epoch bullshit and NAVARRO REPORT!!!

Now you. Answer
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

Because I am such a nice guy, I listing a few things President Biden has done that I agree with. I fully expect you to disagree.....on principle if for no other reason. That's you prerogative. Let me be very clear with you, I have no intention of engaging in a discussion/argument with you about these policies I've listed.   

I for one am thrilled that President has reversed 23 Trump policies. Nine of his 11 actions regarding immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies. Trump must be seething over this and that makes me happy. Trump is a bully. I don't like bullies.

President Biden directed each agency to evaluate and submit a strategic plan within 200 days on opportunities to promote and expand access to voter registration and participation

His executive order establishes an interagency working group to propose improvements for recruiting, retaining and supporting national security professions

President Biden imposed sanctions and diplomatic expulsions on Russia in response to the country’s interference in the 2020 US election and the SolarWinds cyberattack.

President Biden revoked a Trump executive order that authorized sanctions on International Criminal Court officials.

I offered up everything and no one can refute it but the spin is amazing
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 01:11:00 PM
Now you. Answer

"HAHHAHAHAHAA"
"You just don't get it"
*crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory*
*Epoch article*
NAVARRO REPORT!!!!!

Keep trying midget. We have not even reached the 90 day mark of Biden's term yet.  You might consider pacing yourself a little if you want to last until the end.  You wouldn't survive another stroke at this point. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

Because I am such a nice guy, I listing a few things President Biden has done that I agree with. I fully expect you to disagree.....on principle if for no other reason. That's you prerogative. Let me be very clear with you, I have no intention of engaging in a discussion/argument with you about these policies I've listed.   

I for one am thrilled that President has reversed 23 Trump policies. Nine of his 11 actions regarding immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies. Trump must be seething over this and that makes me happy. Trump is a bully. I don't like bullies.

President Biden directed each agency to evaluate and submit a strategic plan within 200 days on opportunities to promote and expand access to voter registration and participation

His executive order establishes an interagency working group to propose improvements for recruiting, retaining and supporting national security professions

President Biden imposed sanctions and diplomatic expulsions on Russia in response to the country’s interference in the 2020 US election and the SolarWinds cyberattack.

President Biden revoked a Trump executive order that authorized sanctions on International Criminal Court officials.

So you’re good with the basically the borders being open and not stopping Chinavirus positive migrants to enter the country along with migrants that haven’t been tested? You’re ok with the Biden administration stuffing migrants in facilities that are designed to hold 35-40 with instead 500+. Several that have been caught are on the terrorist watch list, child trafficking, I’m sorry, did you miss the two children thrown over the 14’ wall left on their own?

Give us your address that way we can send the illegals to your house.
Let’s keep this going.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2021, 01:26:01 PM
Aren't you the same senile piece of shit that spent the last 5 years bashing the President? Typical hypocrite democrat. ::)
  not me sir, I've always respected the high office of president. but it's fine for you to bash me apparently, when did I ever call you a name or said anything disrespectful to you. yet you find it necessary to bash me constantly. when I call you on it you say now you're playing the victim. boo hoo hoo. don't even pretend to know me personally. I've never attacked you or another member on this or any other board. yet you and your ilk find it necessary to do this on a constant basis. maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2021, 01:27:58 PM
For a fellow who offers up nothing, you are way too demanding of others. Who the heck do you think you are?

Because I am such a nice guy, I listing a few things President Biden has done that I agree with. I fully expect you to disagree.....on principle if for no other reason. That's you prerogative. Let me be very clear with you, I have no intention of engaging in a discussion/argument with you about these policies I've listed.   

I for one am thrilled that President has reversed 23 Trump policies. Nine of his 11 actions regarding immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies. Trump must be seething over this and that makes me happy. Trump is a bully. I don't like bullies.

President Biden directed each agency to evaluate and submit a strategic plan within 200 days on opportunities to promote and expand access to voter registration and participation

His executive order establishes an interagency working group to propose improvements for recruiting, retaining and supporting national security professions

President Biden imposed sanctions and diplomatic expulsions on Russia in response to the country’s interference in the 2020 US election and the SolarWinds cyberattack.

President Biden revoked a Trump executive order that authorized sanctions on International Criminal Court officials.
   that and biden reversing trump's attacks on the environment, what's wrong with clean air and water. ask flint Michigan
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
   that and biden reversing trump's attacks on the environment, what's wrong with clean air and water. ask flint Michigan

So you're saying Trump has done nothing for the environment?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2021, 01:56:21 PM
I am a Democrat and I firmly believe folks must provide not only ID but proof of citizenship in order to vote in this country. I seriously doubt that I am the only Democrat that feels this way. Wouldn't it be more accurate for you to post some Democrats state that requiring ID suppresses minority voting.

Looking at this another way, if it is true that minorities are less likely to have adequate ID, then technically requiring ID does suppress their vote. If that's a problem then encourage minorities to acquire legal ID so they can vote. If someone prefers anonymity....they give up the right to vote. It's really pretty simple.

We should be past the point where we need to provide a caveat that certain individuals feel one way or the other.  When points are made about the left or right, it's generally implied we mean in the aggregate, those who are most vocal or in the news,  OR are referring to to those in politics.

Given that, please let us know if there is even one member of Congress who has spoken for the need for voter ID.

You second paragraph is true.  However, nobody has proven the first line about Voter ID suppressing minority vote.  It's just something that they keep repeating, with no concrete proof. That's why I read the bill and wondered if it was something else....doesn't seem to be that way.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 02:22:50 PM
Like I said, Strawman is ONLY here to troll...


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=672065.0
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 03:05:12 PM
Actually you’ve proven yourself (and Howard) to be a backstabbing asshole. I wanted to address that first

I'd like to address you calling me an asshole. I don't believe I've ever called you derogatory names. To the best of my recollection, I've either called you Coach or Joe.

Please do. Back stabbing is the action or practice of criticizing someone in a treacherous manner. Treacherous.....really? Are you sure you wanted(?) to address that first isn't because you don't know how to respond to someone answering your questions? Wanted to....does this mean you already have addressed that and I missed it or that you've wanted to but haven't had courage to address it?

I get it, Howard and I teased you by suggesting you faked the White House Christmas dinner invitation. If that is the worst thing that ever happens to you you're a lucky guy. Also, I acknowledged that I was wrong and that your invitation was real. Still, it must have really hurt your far too sensitive feelings. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
Please do. Back stabbing is the action or practice of criticizing someone in a treacherous manner. Treacherous.....really? Are you sure you wanted(?) to address that first isn't because you don't know how to respond to someone answering your questions? Wanted to....does this mean you already have addressed that and I missed it or that you've wanted to but haven't had courage to address it?

I get it, Howard and I teased you by suggesting you faked the White House Christmas dinner invitation. If that is the worst thing that ever happens to you you're a lucky guy. Also, I acknowledged that I was wrong and that your invitation was real. Still, it must have really hurt your far too sensitive feelings.

You're a backstabber
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 03:14:20 PM
You're a backstabber

Brilliant! You're acting like a hurt little boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 03:19:44 PM
Like I said, Strawman is ONLY here to troll...


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=672065.0

says the whiny little bitch who gets kicked in the balls by REALITY on a daily basis

you're perfectly free to not read my posts you fucking moron

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 03:35:32 PM
says the whiny little bitch who gets kicked in the balls by REALITY on a daily basis

you're perfectly free to not read my posts you fucking moron

For the record I chose Crossfire in a revolution. No need for commies in this country
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2021, 03:36:05 PM
  not me sir, I've always respected the high office of president. but it's fine for you to bash me apparently, when did I ever call you a name or said anything disrespectful to you. yet you find it necessary to bash me constantly. when I call you on it you say now you're playing the victim. boo hoo hoo. don't even pretend to know me personally. I've never attacked you or another member on this or any other board. yet you and your ilk find it necessary to do this on a constant basis. maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror.
Sure you have, repeatedly, constantly and currently still do, why lie about it ??? You're here daily stroking Joe Bitem off while bashing Trump, everyone can see that.
As far as calling you names, it's getbig Nancy-boy, I thought you were part of the toughest generation?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 03:38:26 PM
For the record I chose Crossfire in a revolution. No need for commies in this country

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41IoIRivCkL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 03:40:23 PM
For the record I chose Crossfire in a revolution. No need for commies in this country

and definitely no need for TRAITORS like you and most other Trumptards

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2021, 04:10:00 PM
37 pages of spectacular whining and vote lacking.  Trump lost the election.  Coach lost this thread.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2021, 04:52:31 PM
37 pages of spectacular whining and vote lacking.  Trump lost the election.  Coach lost this thread.

Coach lost his head.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 04:59:35 PM
Coach lost his head.

no great loss given that it was completely empty
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 05:17:53 PM
.....when you can't refute anything I've posted.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 05:18:52 PM
and definitely no need for TRAITORS like you and most other Trumptards

Us "Trumptards" are patiently waiting
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 05:23:14 PM
Every vote counts because hypothetically, it only takes one vote to win an election. That being said, it usually takes several (swing) states to decide the election results.

What is interesting is that if there is no voter suppression in Georgia's new election laws, why are folks getting so worked up about it? They must believe the new laws could change the outcome of future elections....in this case, favoring republicans over democrats. If this is correct, democrats will have to up their game at getting out the vote. They've been pretty successful at this in the past with lots of one on one contacts and the support of labor unions and the folks who belong to them.

No, every vote shouldn't count. However, every LEGAL vote should. That's not what happened by a long shot and again, that's not even getting into the voter laws that were broken.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 05:45:42 PM
.....when you can't refute anything I've posted.

you're a fucking moron

what else is there to say

Actually there is one more thing.  We've known for a long time that right wingers are genetically incapable of comprehending irony or hypocrisy so I'm sure this will make no sense to you but it's pretty fucking funny that Trumptards have recently been complaining non-stop about so called "cancel culture" and then you decide to make a thread trying to cancel me for what exactly.....?  Because you don't like my posts or I don't pay enough attention to you or what?

I post facts, such as "Biden won the election" or "MLB is moving the All Star game in protest of racist election laws" and your broken brain thinks those are lies.

I can't help it that reality trolls you on a daily basis

Stop whining you little bitch

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 17, 2021, 06:12:22 PM
Nope.


He’s had all day to clean the pig pen.   Nope.  Arguing w coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 17, 2021, 08:16:21 PM
you're a fucking moron

what else is there to say

Actually there is one more thing.  We've known for a long time that right wingers are genetically incapable of comprehending irony or hypocrisy so I'm sure this will make no sense to you but it's pretty fucking funny that Trumptards have recently been complaining non-stop about so called "cancel culture" and then you decide to make a thread trying to cancel me for what exactly.....?  Because you don't like my posts or I don't pay enough attention to you or what?

I post facts, such as "Biden won the election" or "MLB is moving the All Star game in protest of racist election laws" and your broken brain thinks those are lies.

I can't help it that reality trolls you on a daily basis

Stop whining you little bitch

Ouch!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 17, 2021, 08:34:02 PM
you're a fucking moron

what else is there to say

Actually there is one more thing.  We've known for a long time that right wingers are genetically incapable of comprehending irony or hypocrisy so I'm sure this will make no sense to you but it's pretty fucking funny that Trumptards have recently been complaining non-stop about so called "cancel culture" and then you decide to make a thread trying to cancel me for what exactly.....?  Because you don't like my posts or I don't pay enough attention to you or what?

I post facts, such as "Biden won the election" or "MLB is moving the All Star game in protest of racist election laws" and your broken brain thinks those are lies.

I can't help it that reality trolls you on a daily basis

Stop whining you little bitch

You're the Yoko Ono of Getbig. No one likes you.  No one.   Your bucket is filled with self-loathing and you are the paintbrush with which you and you alone have made this illusion your reality.  You've painted yourself into a corner from which you can never leave.

Yoko.

You are ugly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 08:45:06 PM
You're the Yoko Ono of Getbig. No one likes you.  No one.   Your bucket is filled with self-loathing and you are the paintbrush with which you and you alone have made this illusion your reality.  You've painted yourself into a corner from which you can never leave.

Yoko.

You are ugly.

So eloquently put 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 17, 2021, 09:25:38 PM
You're the Yoko Ono of Getbig. No one likes you.  No one.   Your bucket is filled with self-loathing and you are the paintbrush with which you and you alone have made this illusion your reality.  You've painted yourself into a corner from which you can never leave.

Yoko.

You are ugly.

I'm ugly?

LOL - damn you sound like a jilted teenage girl

Why so cranky....did you get your period?

BTW - serious question...are you schizophrenic

Pathetic, last ditch albeit moronically cumbersome attempt at making lite of my handicaps.  I don't mind. I faced worse than your pussy-assed B.S. in the real world.   My reading comprehension far outstrips anything you are capable of as does my ability to write.  I will admit that sometimes I fail at understanding some stuff here that is colloquial and if my family is around I will seek their help or just ask for an explanation/definition from others here.  There is no shame in not knowing but in your case there is blame, not shame.

But then, every one here already knows this. You however shiver at the stark reality of it all. 

You're a fucking chimp in comparison to me.  But I would hazard you can run faster and are probably better built and better looking . A man's got to know his limits.

But chimps like you just...Well...They just chimpout.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2021, 09:46:20 PM
I'm ugly?

LOL - damn you sound like a jilted teenage girl

Why so cranky....did you get your period?

BTW - serious question...are you schizophrenic

You were saying ?


https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/breaking-dc-police-attacked-with-fireworks-statues-desecrated/?fbclid=IwAR3kaWqrU2zBvWE_GNYS3lQR75xntaompbbXrmOAoIwaktFrakyKSJNe0uU
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 17, 2021, 10:20:22 PM
I'm ugly?

LOL - damn you sound like a jilted teenage girl

Why so cranky....did you get your period?

BTW - serious question...are you schizophrenic

I have never said I am genuinely handsome so, chances are you are better looking than me.  Call it damning you with faint praise if you must.  I have a physical handicap and have no doubt that you can run faster as I cannot run at all and you could well be better built than I but that really is not that difficult a challenge, believe me.  Again, I realize that I am kinda-sorta damning you with faint praise but I am honest.  I know...You have difficulty with honesty, elsewise why would you be a liberal? 

Answer:  You wouldn't.

But you are still a chimp and as such, tend to chimpout. 

You are most definitely cursed and deservedly so. Cursed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2021, 01:04:04 AM
Us "Trumptards" are patiently waiting

It is good to know that some of  you 'Trumptards' are patient, because even when the answers slap you in in face, you don't get it. But hey, nobody is perfect. Some day you may be able to call some folks 'Bidims', should you get your wish.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2021, 01:07:29 AM
.....when you can't refute anything I've posted.

Give it up already. When your posts are refuted, you ignore it or change the subject. God help the right wing conservatives who conduct themselves like you do.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2021, 01:12:52 AM
No, every vote shouldn't count. However, every LEGAL vote should. That's not what happened by a long shot and again, that's not even getting into the voter laws that were broken.

Are you trying to tell me something I haven't already said? You can't show me where I ever suggested illegal votes should count, because that never happened. Help me out here by listing what voter laws were broken, where that happened and why nobody has been able to prove it....well, except maybe in your mind.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Zillotch on April 18, 2021, 01:27:59 AM
God help

enjoy your torment, phaggot
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2021, 03:57:06 AM
Sure you have, repeatedly, constantly and currently still do, why lie about it ??? You're here daily stroking Joe Bitem off while bashing Trump, everyone can see that.
As far as calling you names, it's getbig Nancy-boy, I thought you were part of the toughest generation?
    I've never called you a derogatory name or any other getbig member without being provoked first. now there's a new one nancy boy. it's pretty easy to call someone a name when you're a faceless person on the computer isn't it. you called me a senile piece of shit, what are you like 12 years old. time to grow up don't you think.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: B_B_C on April 18, 2021, 07:33:53 AM
When I’m not at the warehouse at work about 90% from my phone

You are an Amazon shelf stacker?
I thought you were an elite athlete coach 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 18, 2021, 07:38:23 AM
Give it up already. When your posts are refuted, you ignore it or change the subject. God help the right wing conservatives who conduct themselves like you do.

Exactly.  I, Straw, You, Abraham, Agnostic, etc..  have all answered his questions multiple times.  Instead he ignores it and keeps asking over and over.  When you link to where it has been answered, he just ignores that and starts in with different questions.

Between this thread and the More Fraud thread, what we are witnessing is the daily deterioration of Coach's mental state.  But since it was a molehill and not a mountain to start with, there isn't much to lose.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 18, 2021, 07:45:27 AM
Coach whenever he finds a new "fact" on some obscure internet op-ed site that he is going to use against the "libs".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 18, 2021, 08:27:21 AM
wow, 30 crybabies want to cancel Straw Man?

this thread cements his getbig hall of fame legacy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2021, 08:33:48 AM
    I've never called you a derogatory name or any other getbig member without being provoked first. now there's a new one nancy boy. it's pretty easy to call someone a name when you're a faceless person on the computer isn't it. you called me a senile piece of shit, what are you like 12 years old. time to grow up don't you think.
Time to grow up says the 80 year old man scouring youtube for anti-Trump videos all day. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 18, 2021, 09:28:02 AM
wow, 30 crybabies want to cancel Straw Man?

this thread cements his getbig hall of fame legacy.

Ultimate backfire thread if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 18, 2021, 09:33:32 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 18, 2021, 09:53:48 AM
wow, 30 crybabies want to cancel Straw Man?

this thread cements his getbig hall of fame legacy.

Two things:

1.  I am in charge of data, lists, record keeping, awards, HoF inductees, and getbigger status records.  Please refrain from these type of statements.

2.  When is Pearson getting called up, and will he start?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2021, 10:22:16 AM
Time to grow up says the 80 year old man scouring youtube for anti-Trump videos all day. ::)
   hey, I'm experiencing my second childhood what's your excuse junior.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2021, 10:25:50 AM
So you're saying Trump has done nothing for the environment?
  15 ways the Trump administration has changed environmental policies
For the past three years, National Geographic has been tracking how this administration's decisions will influence air, water, and wildlife.

BYSARAH GIBBENS
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 1, 2019
• 8 MIN READ

Since the Trump administration took office, it has been fighting what they call an “anti-growth” agenda put in place by the Obama administration. Regulations that required businesses to spend time and money to meet the former administration's environmental standards were swiftly reviewed and, in many cases, rolled back.

National Geographic has been tracking the decisions that will impact America's land, water, air, and wildlife. What started with curtailing information when the president took office in 2017 has evolved into actions like executive orders that open public land for business.

States, municipalities, and NGOs have responded to these changes by filing lawsuits to block the administration. Some, like lawsuits against the Keystone XL pipeline, have successfully kept public land closed to additional development.

Below are 15 influential decisions made by the Trump administration that could impact the future of our nation.

Clean air
1. U.S. pulls out of Paris Climate Agreement
This is perhaps the decision that set the tone for the Trump administration's approach to the environment: when he moved to withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement in June of 2017. To many, it signaled less U.S. leadership in international climate change agreements. (Read more about this decision.)

2. Trump EPA poised to scrap clean power plan
The Clean Power Plan was one of the Obama's signature environmental policies. It required the energy sector to cut carbon emissions by 32 percent by 2030, but in October 2017 it was rolled back by Trump's EPA. Among the reasons cited were unfair burdens on the power sector and a “war on coal.” (Read more on why Trump can't make coal great again.)

3. EPA loosens regulations on toxic air pollution
This regulation revolved around a complicated rule referred to as “once in, always in” or OIAI. Essentially, OIAI said that if a company polluted over the legal limit, they would have to match the lowest levels set by their industry peers and they would have to match them indefinitely. By dropping OIAI, the Trump EPA forces companies to innovate ways to decrease their emissions, but once those lower targets are met, they're no longer required to keep using those innovations. (Read more about air pollution.)


4. Rescinding methane-flaring rules
Under the Affordable Clean Energy rule issued in August 2018, states were given more power over regulating emissions. In states like California, that means regulations would likely be stricter, whereas states that produce fossil fuels are likely to weaken regulations. The following month, the EPA announced they would relax rules around releasing methane flares, inspecting equipment, and repairing leaks. (Read more about methane.)

5. Trump announces plan to weaken Obama-era fuel economy rules
Under the Obama administration's fuel economy targets, cars made after 2012 would, on average, have to get 54 miles per gallon by 2025. In August 2018, the Trump Department of Transportation and EPA capped that target at 34 miles per gallon by 2021. The decision created legal conflict with states like California that have higher emission caps. (Read more about speed bumps in the way of super-efficient cars.)

Water
6. Trump revokes flood standards accounting for sea-level rise
In August 2017, President Trump revoked an Obama-era executive order that required federally funded projects to factor rising sea levels into construction. However, in 2018, the Department of Housing and Urban Development required buildings constructed with disaster relief grants do just that. (Read more about how rising sea levels may imperil the internet.)

7. Waters of the U.S. Rule revocation
What are the “waters of the U.S.?” President Trump issued an executive order in 2017 ordering the EPA to formally review what waters fell under the jurisdiction of the EPA and Army Corps of Engineers according to the 1972 Clean Water Act. The proposed change narrowed the definition of what's considered a federally protected river or wetland. (Read more about Trump's plans to roll back the Clean Water Act.)


Wildlife
8. NOAA green lights seismic airgun blasts for oil and gas drilling
Five companies were approved to use seismic air gun blasts to search for underwater oil and gas deposits. Debate over the deafening blasts stem from concerns that they disorient marine mammals that use sonar to communicate and kill plankton. The blasts were shot down by the Bureau of Energy Management in 2017 but approved after NOAA found they would not violate the Marine Mammal Protection Act. (Read more about how scientists think seismic air guns will harm marine life.)

Learn what it means to be an endangered species
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
This is a central Bornean orangutan. Bornean orangutan numbers have been more than halved in the past 60 years, mainly due to humans encroaching on its habitat.
Giant panda numbers increased enough for the IUCN Red List to downlist it from endangered to vulnerable 2016.
Hawksbill sea turtles are listed as critically endangered on the IUCN Red List. The tortoiseshell trade, collection of their eggs for food, and destruction of coral reefs have all contributed to their declining numbers.
Asian elephants are listed as endangered on the IUCN Red List, threatened by habitat loss and poaching.

1 / 5
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
PHOTOGRAPH BY JOEL SARTORE, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC PHOTO ARK

9. Interior Department relaxes sage grouse protection
The uniquely American sage grouse, a bird resembling a turkey with spiked feathers, has become the face of the debate between land developers and conservationists. In both 2017 and 2018, the Trump administration Department of Interior eased restrictions on activities like mining and drilling that had been restricted to protect the endangered bird. (Read more about how the sage grouse become caught in the fight over who owns America's west.)

10. Trump officials propose changes to handling the Endangered Species Act
In July of 2018, the Trump administration announced its intention to change the way the Endangered Species Act is administered, saying more weight would be put on economic considerations when designating an endangered animal's habitat. (Read more about the rollbacks facing endangered animals.)

11. Migratory Bird Treaty Act reinterpretation
Companies installing large wind turbines, constructing power lines, or leaving oil exposed are no longer violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act if their activities kill birds. This controversial change was declared by the Trump administration in December of 2017. (Read more about why legally protecting birds is important.)

Opening public lands for business
12. Trump unveils plan to dramatically downsize two national monuments
Unlike national parks, which have to be approved by Congress, national monuments can be created by an executive order, which the president said means they can be dismantled just as easily. Such was the case for Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante in Utah, which President Trump reduced and opened for mining and drilling companies in 2017. Tribes and environmental groups are challenging that interpretation in court. (Read more about the impacts of downsizing these two monuments.)


13. Executive order calls for sharp logging increase on public lands
Just a day before the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, President Trump issued an executive order that called for a 30 percent increase in logging on public lands. The decision was billed as wildfire prevention, though environmental groups say it ignores the role climate change plays in starting wildfires. (Read more about California's historic wildfires.)

Security & Enforcement
14. Trump drops climate change from list of national security threats
The Trump administration's decision to delist climate change from national security threats in December of 2017 meant less Department of Defense research funding and a nationalistic viewpoint on the potential impacts of wildfires, droughts, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. (Read more about how climate change is forcing migration in Guatemala.)

15. EPA criminal enforcement hits 30-year low
The size and influence of the EPA has shrunk under the Trump administration, and it's illustrated by their diminished prosecuting power. Criminal prosecutions are at a 30-year low, and many violations that would have been prosecuted in the past are now being negotiated with companies. The administration says this is streamlining its work, but environmentalists have warned it could lead to more pollution. (Read more about the scientists pushing back against President Trump's environment agenda.)    NOTHING FOR BUT A LOT TO THE ENVIROMENT.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2021, 10:30:53 AM
   hey, I'm experiencing my second childhood what's your excuse junior.
I'm just entering the grumpy old man stage.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 18, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
  15 ways the Trump administration has changed environmental policies
For the past three years, National Geographic has been tracking how this administration's decisions will influence air, water, and wildlife.

BYSARAH GIBBENS
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 1, 2019
• 8 MIN READ

Since the Trump administration took office, it has been fighting what they call an “anti-growth” agenda put in place by the Obama administration. Regulations that required businesses to spend time and money to meet the former administration's environmental standards were swiftly reviewed and, in many cases, rolled back.

National Geographic has been tracking the decisions that will impact America's land, water, air, and wildlife. What started with curtailing information when the president took office in 2017 has evolved into actions like executive orders that open public land for business.

States, municipalities, and NGOs have responded to these changes by filing lawsuits to block the administration. Some, like lawsuits against the Keystone XL pipeline, have successfully kept public land closed to additional development.

Below are 15 influential decisions made by the Trump administration that could impact the future of our nation.

Clean air
1. U.S. pulls out of Paris Climate Agreement
This is perhaps the decision that set the tone for the Trump administration's approach to the environment: when he moved to withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement in June of 2017. To many, it signaled less U.S. leadership in international climate change agreements. (Read more about this decision.)

2. Trump EPA poised to scrap clean power plan
The Clean Power Plan was one of the Obama's signature environmental policies. It required the energy sector to cut carbon emissions by 32 percent by 2030, but in October 2017 it was rolled back by Trump's EPA. Among the reasons cited were unfair burdens on the power sector and a “war on coal.” (Read more on why Trump can't make coal great again.)

3. EPA loosens regulations on toxic air pollution
This regulation revolved around a complicated rule referred to as “once in, always in” or OIAI. Essentially, OIAI said that if a company polluted over the legal limit, they would have to match the lowest levels set by their industry peers and they would have to match them indefinitely. By dropping OIAI, the Trump EPA forces companies to innovate ways to decrease their emissions, but once those lower targets are met, they're no longer required to keep using those innovations. (Read more about air pollution.)


4. Rescinding methane-flaring rules
Under the Affordable Clean Energy rule issued in August 2018, states were given more power over regulating emissions. In states like California, that means regulations would likely be stricter, whereas states that produce fossil fuels are likely to weaken regulations. The following month, the EPA announced they would relax rules around releasing methane flares, inspecting equipment, and repairing leaks. (Read more about methane.)

5. Trump announces plan to weaken Obama-era fuel economy rules
Under the Obama administration's fuel economy targets, cars made after 2012 would, on average, have to get 54 miles per gallon by 2025. In August 2018, the Trump Department of Transportation and EPA capped that target at 34 miles per gallon by 2021. The decision created legal conflict with states like California that have higher emission caps. (Read more about speed bumps in the way of super-efficient cars.)

Water
6. Trump revokes flood standards accounting for sea-level rise
In August 2017, President Trump revoked an Obama-era executive order that required federally funded projects to factor rising sea levels into construction. However, in 2018, the Department of Housing and Urban Development required buildings constructed with disaster relief grants do just that. (Read more about how rising sea levels may imperil the internet.)

7. Waters of the U.S. Rule revocation
What are the “waters of the U.S.?” President Trump issued an executive order in 2017 ordering the EPA to formally review what waters fell under the jurisdiction of the EPA and Army Corps of Engineers according to the 1972 Clean Water Act. The proposed change narrowed the definition of what's considered a federally protected river or wetland. (Read more about Trump's plans to roll back the Clean Water Act.)


Wildlife
8. NOAA green lights seismic airgun blasts for oil and gas drilling
Five companies were approved to use seismic air gun blasts to search for underwater oil and gas deposits. Debate over the deafening blasts stem from concerns that they disorient marine mammals that use sonar to communicate and kill plankton. The blasts were shot down by the Bureau of Energy Management in 2017 but approved after NOAA found they would not violate the Marine Mammal Protection Act. (Read more about how scientists think seismic air guns will harm marine life.)

Learn what it means to be an endangered species
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
This is a central Bornean orangutan. Bornean orangutan numbers have been more than halved in the past 60 years, mainly due to humans encroaching on its habitat.
Giant panda numbers increased enough for the IUCN Red List to downlist it from endangered to vulnerable 2016.
Hawksbill sea turtles are listed as critically endangered on the IUCN Red List. The tortoiseshell trade, collection of their eggs for food, and destruction of coral reefs have all contributed to their declining numbers.
Asian elephants are listed as endangered on the IUCN Red List, threatened by habitat loss and poaching.

1 / 5
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
This critically endangered South China tiger lives at the Suzhou Zoo in China. This is a species that may be gone from the wild now. As of 2015 there were only 100 in captivity.
PHOTOGRAPH BY JOEL SARTORE, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC PHOTO ARK

9. Interior Department relaxes sage grouse protection
The uniquely American sage grouse, a bird resembling a turkey with spiked feathers, has become the face of the debate between land developers and conservationists. In both 2017 and 2018, the Trump administration Department of Interior eased restrictions on activities like mining and drilling that had been restricted to protect the endangered bird. (Read more about how the sage grouse become caught in the fight over who owns America's west.)

10. Trump officials propose changes to handling the Endangered Species Act
In July of 2018, the Trump administration announced its intention to change the way the Endangered Species Act is administered, saying more weight would be put on economic considerations when designating an endangered animal's habitat. (Read more about the rollbacks facing endangered animals.)

11. Migratory Bird Treaty Act reinterpretation
Companies installing large wind turbines, constructing power lines, or leaving oil exposed are no longer violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act if their activities kill birds. This controversial change was declared by the Trump administration in December of 2017. (Read more about why legally protecting birds is important.)

Opening public lands for business
12. Trump unveils plan to dramatically downsize two national monuments
Unlike national parks, which have to be approved by Congress, national monuments can be created by an executive order, which the president said means they can be dismantled just as easily. Such was the case for Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante in Utah, which President Trump reduced and opened for mining and drilling companies in 2017. Tribes and environmental groups are challenging that interpretation in court. (Read more about the impacts of downsizing these two monuments.)


13. Executive order calls for sharp logging increase on public lands
Just a day before the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, President Trump issued an executive order that called for a 30 percent increase in logging on public lands. The decision was billed as wildfire prevention, though environmental groups say it ignores the role climate change plays in starting wildfires. (Read more about California's historic wildfires.)

Security & Enforcement
14. Trump drops climate change from list of national security threats
The Trump administration's decision to delist climate change from national security threats in December of 2017 meant less Department of Defense research funding and a nationalistic viewpoint on the potential impacts of wildfires, droughts, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. (Read more about how climate change is forcing migration in Guatemala.)

15. EPA criminal enforcement hits 30-year low
The size and influence of the EPA has shrunk under the Trump administration, and it's illustrated by their diminished prosecuting power. Criminal prosecutions are at a 30-year low, and many violations that would have been prosecuted in the past are now being negotiated with companies. The administration says this is streamlining its work, but environmentalists have warned it could lead to more pollution. (Read more about the scientists pushing back against President Trump's environment agenda.)    NOTHING FOR BUT A LOT TO THE ENVIROMENT.

Are you ready for your daily beating much like Straw, Prime and Lurker? here we go....(not a cut and paste)


1. Trump signed the Save our Seas act in 2018. This act grants $10 million from 2018-2022 for the NOAA and other agencies to reduce debris in oceans and coastal areas. This act also authorizes $2 million annually fir the USCG to enforce laws related to discarded  refuse from ships. Irt requires NOAA to respond to severe marine debris events. This act expresses support for the Great Lakes land-based Marine Action Plan as well.

2. Trump signed the Great American Outdoors Act which would provide $900 million annually in oil and gas revenues for the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) which helps secure land for trails and parks.

3. in 2019, the third year of the Trump Presidency, the US reduced it's greenhouse gas emissions by 2.1%

4. Emissions from electric power generation dropped by 10% In 2019. Thats because of the switch from coal to natural gas renewables in the electric power sector.

5. Trump signed legislation designating 1.3 million new acres of wilderness- the largest public lands legislation in a decade.

6. Trump proposed the Affordable Clean Energy Rule to reduce greenhouse gasses to empower states, promote energy independence, economic growth and job creation.

7. Trump administration created a Superfund task force designed to streamline the Superfund cleanup program.

8. Under the Trump Administration, EPA has deleted 82 sites from the NPL in four years equaling the number of deletions between 2008-2016. The attention and focus the Trump Administration has put on the Superfund program is making a real difference in the lives of people living in communities near Superfund sites across the country

9. For the first time, we are Energy independent

This is the short list. Good for him for pulling out tax grabbing BS.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2021, 11:15:05 AM
so you're saying  9 things good to 15 things bad, not that bad actually.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
I'm just entering the grumpy old man stage.
   you'll get there one day my friend , it just takes time. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 18, 2021, 11:26:33 AM
so you're saying  9 things good to 15 things bad, not that bad actually.

And once again, you didn’t read the bottom. Pulling out of the Paris Accord was probably single best thing he did on that list. And just about everything on that list was designed as a tax grab. Even those 9 things on that list “trump” the 15 you listed. Look up how much the “New Green Deal” will cost us. The omnibus in that last bill was mostly about the “Néw Green Deal” and that was how much? 2 trillion?

Don’t tout the lefts environment bs when I walk down to Venice and the place is littered with feces, piss, needles and trash from the homeless encampments that the Dem ran cities won’t do anything about. This isn’t just Venice, check Pelosi’s district, Check Waters district, check any Dem ran city. I was in Baltimore last year. Talk about a shithole!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2021, 02:21:24 PM
Are you ready for your daily beating much like Straw, Prime and Lurker? here we go....(not a cut and paste)


1. Trump signed the Save our Seas act in 2018. This act grants $10 million from 2018-2022 for the NOAA and other agencies to reduce debris in oceans and coastal areas. This act also authorizes $2 million annually fir the USCG to enforce laws related to discarded  refuse from ships. Irt requires NOAA to respond to severe marine debris events. This act expresses support for the Great Lakes land-based Marine Action Plan as well.

2. Trump signed the Great American Outdoors Act which would provide $900 million annually in oil and gas revenues for the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) which helps secure land for trails and parks.

3. in 2019, the third year of the Trump Presidency, the US reduced it's greenhouse gas emissions by 2.1%

4. Emissions from electric power generation dropped by 10% In 2019. Thats because of the switch from coal to natural gas renewables in the electric power sector.

5. Trump signed legislation designating 1.3 million new acres of wilderness- the largest public lands legislation in a decade.

6. Trump proposed the Affordable Clean Energy Rule to reduce greenhouse gasses to empower states, promote energy independence, economic growth and job creation.

7. Trump administration created a Superfund task force designed to streamline the Superfund cleanup program.

8. Under the Trump Administration, EPA has deleted 82 sites from the NPL in four years equaling the number of deletions between 2008-2016. The attention and focus the Trump Administration has put on the Superfund program is making a real difference in the lives of people living in communities near Superfund sites across the country

9. For the first time, we are Energy independent

This is the short list. Good for him for pulling out tax grabbing BS.

Good job Joe. This is an excellent post. I did not check out all 9 items, but those that I did are correct. Keep in mind that Congress passed these acts and Trump signed them into law. This is different from executive orders and proposals. Acts passed by Congress are either signed into law or vetoed by the President. Trump deserves credit for making some good decisions by signing the acts you listed into law and for the one proposal he made (#6).

Publishing a list of the 10 bills/acts Trump vetoed might be interesting. Of the last 4 Presidents, Trump vetoed the least bills. Clinton vetoed 37 bills. The other two Presidents each vetoed 12 bills. When Trump took office Republican's controlled the house. They lost it in the 2018 mid-term elections. Republicans controlled the Senate when Trump was in office. With a Republican controlled Congress, they pass bills which reflect Republican views.

Apparently there are various ways to look at what energy independent really means. Unfortunately, the U.S. continues to import millions of barrels of petroleum per day.

Anyway...this is the best post I've seen from you in a longtime. Maybe since you posted about your training and diet routines for the last bodybuilding competition you entered.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 18, 2021, 04:07:23 PM
The weekend is over - is the dump cleared up yet ? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2021, 04:07:55 PM
The Board never knew you to be in any other stage
;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 18, 2021, 05:28:26 PM
I did not check out all 9 items, but those that I did are correct.



Woman logic.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 18, 2021, 05:39:48 PM
The weekend is over - is the dump cleared up yet ? 

Nope.  And the neighbors are pissed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 19, 2021, 11:28:23 AM
                                            ARE YOU NOT INSPIRED ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2021, 11:41:26 AM


Woman logic.

Or honesty....could have said I checked them all out. There's no way for anyone to prove otherwise.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 20, 2021, 01:01:25 PM
   
     THREAD IS SLOWLY COMING TO AN END, MUCH LIKE TRUMP'S FAILED PRESENDENCY.   
                           
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 21, 2021, 09:24:42 AM
                                            ARE YOU NOT INSPIRED ?

jackass :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 21, 2021, 09:27:58 AM
Or honesty....could have said I checked them all out. There's no way for anyone to prove otherwise.


More woman logic, haha. Old liberal men are now women to me. Fixes a lot. No more arguing after making my initial point.

No sense in trying to get blood from stone and there is a reason the donkey is the dem logo.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on April 21, 2021, 03:57:09 PM
Two things:

1.  I am in charge of data, lists, record keeping, awards, HoF inductees, and getbigger status records.  Please refrain from these type of statements.

2.  When is Pearson getting called up, and will he start?

Pearson is on the IL with a groin injury and is needed in the rotation when healthy.

Are the Red Sox for real this year?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 22, 2021, 10:36:36 AM
Pearson is on the IL with a groin injury and is needed in the rotation when healthy.

Are the Red Sox for real this year?

1. Excellent.  Took a flyer on him in FBB

2. No
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 22, 2021, 10:45:50 AM
jackass :D
               so I'm guessing you're uninspired. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 09:15:42 AM
If they think it’s legit then what are they afraid of? Right?


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-democrats-file-lawsuit-to-stop-senate-audit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Howard on April 23, 2021, 09:37:00 AM
If they think it’s legit then what are they afraid of? Right?


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-democrats-file-lawsuit-to-stop-senate-audit

I'll agree with Prime and say this post and your previous on Trump's environmental record, is some of your better work.
YES, this auidt MIGHT have some legitimate reasons for going fwd.

But their are 2 main considerations:

1. Is  any objective evidence been provided  to show "probable cause" of any election fraud. That appears doubtful and
somebody just saying they think so, is here-say evidence and may not meet the standard to open a new audit.

2. Would enough ballots be overturned to change the outcome of the Presidential election? Doubtful at this point.
Even if it changed Arizona that wouldn't change the election results and Biden is still POTUS.

At most, it's akin to changing a close call extra point in a game that was won by 3 points.

3. They should consider doing what we did in Ga and strengthen the state voter laws and address the issues going fwd.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 23, 2021, 09:51:09 AM
I'll agree with Prime and say this post and your previous on Trump's environmental record, is some of your better work.
YES, this auidt MIGHT have some legitimate reasons for going fwd.

But their are 2 main considerations:

1. Is  any objective evidence been provided  to show "probable cause" of any election fraud. That appears doubtful and
somebody just saying they think so, is here-say evidence and may not meet the standard to open a new audit.

2. Would enough ballots be overturned to change the outcome of the Presidential election? Doubtful at this point.
Even if it changed Arizona that wouldn't change the election results and Biden is still POTUS.

At most, it's akin to changing a close call extra point in a game that was won by 3 points.

3. They should consider doing what we did in Ga and strengthen the state voter laws and address the issues going fwd.
Man...what a jackass !  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 10:36:02 AM
If they think it’s legit then what are they afraid of? Right?


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-democrats-file-lawsuit-to-stop-senate-audit

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/4/23/2027296/-Rachel-Maddow-on-Arizona-Cyber-Ninjas-Re-Count

they're concerned because Arizona Republicans are giving the original ballots to a company run by a Trumptard who had previously promoted absolute bullshit CT's

Quote
Last night, the inimitable Rachel Maddow had a segment on the Arizona recount, giving a history that includes RWNJ Louie Gohmert’s Nov 12, 2020 claim that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

The above image shows what was supposedly on the Spanish server in Germany that Sidney Powell and her commandos were supposedly trying to recover before the CIA could disappear it. This image (“obtained by Dude on Twitter”) shows that Trump won “by a lot.” /s

It’s laugh-out-loud funny, except that the Trump crowd really seems to believe this BS.

A company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted this nonsense. So guess who the Arizona GOP hired to do yet another recount of the AZ ballots? Why, Cyber Ninjas, of course. The ballots were dutifully turned over to the company for their re-count. Hmmm. Wonder what they’ll find.

You can watch the segment here: https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/arizona-republicans-embrace-the-ridiculous-pursuing-recount-for-trump-110714949561

My fear is that Cyber Ninjas will try to somehow try to manipulate machine votes and/or switch actual paper ballots with forged paper ballots to get the results they want. If there are any shenanigans, I want the entire book of election fraud laws thrown at them. It may be that there are security cameras documenting their every move. I hope there are. But the AZ recount by Cyber Ninjas seems to have Trump World super-excited.

I know you won't watch the link because it contains facts which you don't like and absolutely can't refute so you will make your usual bullshit excuses

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 11:21:52 AM
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/4/23/2027296/-Rachel-Maddow-on-Arizona-Cyber-Ninjas-Re-Count

they're concerned because Arizona Republicans are giving the original ballots to a company run by a Trumptard who had previously promoted absolute bullshit CT's

I know you won't watch the link because it contains facts which you don't like and absolutely can't refute so you will make your usual bullshit excuses

"dailykos"? go away commie
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/4/23/2027296/-Rachel-Maddow-on-Arizona-Cyber-Ninjas-Re-Count

they're concerned because Arizona Republicans are giving the original ballots to a company run by a Trumptard who had previously promoted absolute bullshit CT's

I know you won't watch the link because it contains facts which you don't like and absolutely can't refute so you will make your usual bullshit excuses

Watching the hearing live now...you're right. I don't listen or watch left wing propaganda. The same propaganda you get owned on daily
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 11:28:45 AM
Watching the hearing live now...you're right. I don't listen or watch left wing propaganda. The same propaganda you get owned on daily

so you're denying the fact that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 12:00:46 PM
so you're denying the fact that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

You’re awfully aggressive to protect the libs on this. Just an FYI, these lawsuits are going on all over the country. What are they hiding? They should be open to this if they think it was a legit process.

Republicans - let’s have a audit to see if the votes and machines are legit

The answer should be ....

Dems - Absolutely
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 12:02:28 PM
You’re awfully aggressive to protect the libs on this. Just an FYI, these lawsuits are going on all over the country. What are they hiding? They should be open to this if they think it was a legit process.

Republicans - let’s have a audit to see if the votes and machines are legit

The answer should be ....

Dems - Absolutely

so you're denying the fact that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 23, 2021, 01:16:01 PM
"dailykos"? go away commie

Says the midget who reposts shit from Navarro Report and then tries to lend it credibility by hiding the source.

Epoch?  Hell, you were dragging crap from PJ Braun over here.

Fragile X syndrome in effect!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 01:44:53 PM
Says the midget who reposts shit from Navarro Report and then tries to lend it credibility by hiding the source.

Epoch?  Hell, you were dragging crap from PJ Braun over here.

Fragile X syndrome in effect!

he won't even admit knowledge of the fact that one the companies being paid to do yet another recount of these ballots is the same company that promoted an absolutely bat shit crazy (and needless to say totally false) CT  a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

Yes, you read that correctly.  The CT was that Trumps disgraced lawyer Sidney Powell allegedly LED THE RAID in Germany to recover the Spanish server that somehow flipped votes all over the United States from Trump to Biden.

This company (called Cyber Ninja's) was heavily involved in the FRAUDULENT STOP THE STEAL campaign

As expected, like all Trumptards, the people running this company are FUCKING MORONS

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/04/23/cyber-ninjas-have-no-idea-how-secure-arizona-election-audit/7354216002/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: MAXX on April 23, 2021, 02:13:12 PM
Hey Coach... food for thought

stop trying to redpill the fa***ts. There is zero point in trying to convice anyone.

take a lesson from Sam


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 02:30:47 PM
Hey Coach... food for thought

stop trying to redpill the fa***ts. There is zero point in trying to convice anyone.

take a lesson from Sam


or he could just answer the fucking question

Hey phony coach, here is it FOR A THIRD TIME

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

come on phony "coach" ...you're the one that brought up the subject and asked us to reply
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:01:48 PM
or he could just answer the fucking question

Hey phony coach, here is it FOR A THIRD TIME

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…

come on phony "coach" ...you're the one that brought up the subject and asked us to reply

$$$ in the open. I’ll even let you pick the policy, topic or whatever. Pussy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:04:03 PM
Says the midget who reposts shit from Navarro Report and then tries to lend it credibility by hiding the source.

Epoch?  Hell, you were dragging crap from PJ Braun over here.

Fragile X syndrome in effect!

The other one....hahahahaha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:06:28 PM
It’s funny how that article say the Dems are hiding something triggered your non-binary ass 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:07:52 PM
Hey Coach... food for thought

stop trying to redpill the fa***ts. There is zero point in trying to convice anyone.

take a lesson from Sam


You’re right. But he’s so easily triggered because he knows and can’t admit it lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 03:09:03 PM
come on phony "coach"
this is the 4th time now that I'm asking you a question about YOUR POST which you asked us to respond to

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in which five U.S. soldiers died…
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 23, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
I don't think Strawman should go. I'll explain...

The Joker needed Batman. He did, you can hear it from him below. Likewise, I believe the Coach needs Strawman and vice versa. He's the Ying to Coach's Yang. They bring balance to each other and feed off of each other. If everyone agreed with you, it wouldn't be fun, NOT ONE BIT.



"1"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 03:17:13 PM
I don't think Strawman should go. I'll explain...

The Joker needed Batman. He did, you can hear it from him below. Likewise, I believe the Coach needs Strawman and vice versa. He's the Ying to Coach's Yang. They bring balance to each other and feed off of each other. If everyone agreed with you, it wouldn't be fun, NOT ONE BIT.



"1"

I don't need the phony "coach for anything except a punching bag and there are plenty of other options for that on this board

As far as I'm concerned I'd be happy if the lying piece of shit went to the same place the JoeLoco and Mr.IntenseOne disappeared to.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
come on phony "coach"
this is the 4th time now that I'm asking you a question about YOUR POST which you asked us to respond to

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in
which five U.S. soldiers died…


Did you watch the live hearing today?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:25:51 PM
I don't need the phony "coach for anything except a punching bag and there are plenty of other options for that on this board

As far as I'm concerned I'd be happy if the lying piece of shit went to the same place the JoeLoco and Mr.IntenseOne disappeared to.

No what do you need a psychiatrist because you’re obviously too fucking stupid to vote. And as far as your other accusation I have to actually look into that because I didn’t hear about it but I’m sure your main stream media bullshit did and whatever they tell you you’re going to believe so I’ll tell you what Junior. I’ll actually look into that. Should be pretty easy to discredit since everything you post and I mean everything is bullshit

I mean considering you believed that Trump actually put out bounties on American troops you’ll fucking believe anything

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 03:33:24 PM
Let’s hypothetically say that’s true. Why would there be a fire fight if there was nothing to hide
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:19:27 PM
Did you watch the live hearing today?

5th time

Why are you so afraid to answer an easy question about a topic THAT YOU BROUGHT UP?

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in
which five U.S. soldiers died…

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on April 23, 2021, 04:21:46 PM
What if Coach and Straw are one and the same?

Wow!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:22:52 PM
Let’s hypothetically say that’s true. Why would there be a fire fight if there was nothing to hide

it's 100% false

why do you think it's true and why do you think anyone would trust a company that promoted this absolutely bat shit crazy LIE?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/12/01/this-retired-three-star-falsely-claims-us-soldiers-died-attacking-a-cia-facility-in-germany-tied-to-election-fraud/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 23, 2021, 04:28:01 PM
40 pages ??? On course to beat the Hulkster/ND thread.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:30:11 PM
40 pages ??? On course to beat the Hulkster/ND thread.

if you eliminated all of the post from phony "coach" dodging questions the thread would only be a third a long

Still totally pathetic that this whiny little bitch started a thread attempting to "cancel" me because he can't deal with reality
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on April 23, 2021, 04:30:29 PM
I don't think Strawman should go. I'll explain...

I will explain further:

The general, stinking masses have no say on who posts here.

/fin
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 23, 2021, 04:32:07 PM
if you eliminated all of the post from phony "coach" dodging questions the thread would only be a third a long

Still totally pathetic that this whiny little bitch started a thread attempting to "cancel" me because he can't deal with reality
Your kind are about cancelling people, you should appreciate the effort.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:36:56 PM
Your kind are about cancelling people, you should appreciate the effort.

go ahead and point out any thread I've started asking that a poster be banned

dipshit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
5th time

Why are you so afraid to answer an easy question about a topic THAT YOU BROUGHT UP?

Are you denying the fact  that the company called Cyber Ninjas actively promoted the batshit insane CT that a Spanish server in Germany switched Trump votes to Biden votes, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell led a CIA raid to recover the server resulting in a firefight in
which five U.S. soldiers died…


Did you not read my above post, Karl?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 04:41:55 PM
go ahead and point out any thread I've started asking that a poster be banned

dipshit

There’s no one else on here who trolls like you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:44:19 PM
Did you not read my above post, Karl?

did you answer the question?

I don't see it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2021, 04:46:23 PM
No what do you need a psychiatrist because you’re obviously too fucking stupid to vote. And as far as your other accusation I have to actually look into that because I didn’t hear about it but I’m sure your main stream media bullshit did and whatever they tell you you’re going to believe so I’ll tell you what Junior. I’ll actually look into that. Should be pretty easy to discredit since everything you post and I mean everything is bullshit

I mean considering you believed that Trump actually put out bounties on American troops you’ll fucking believe anything

.

Have you proved this election wasn’t stolen?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2021, 04:57:51 PM
.

Have you proved this election wasn’t stolen?

I don't have to prove it

The people who ran the election all over the country (many of them Republicans) "proved it" over and over again

Trumps director of cyber-security at DHS said it was the most secure election we've ever had

This is the exact thing I'm talking about

You literally can't deal with reality

Biden WON

Trump LOST

Get over it you stupid whiny little bitch

WTF is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 23, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Very beautiful.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2021, 12:00:49 AM
And the beat goes on....nothing new to see here....some people are incapable of change....let it go at that, regardless of your position on the validity of the election.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 06:21:02 AM
.

Have you proved this election wasn’t stolen?

It's not our responsibility to prove a negative that you are hanging onto because of your stupidity.  Jesus Christ, it is evident after 40 pages of this thread that your two brain cells are fighting it out for third place.

Fragile X in effect!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 24, 2021, 07:20:21 AM
It's not our responsibility to prove a negative that you are hanging onto because of your stupidity.  Jesus Christ, it is evident after 40 pages of this thread that your two brain cells are fighting it out for third place.

Fragile X in effect!

Wow...I am assembling a collection of stellar quotes by you, Straw and Prime and plan on releasing it once I gather enough of your combined sintelligence into a tome I have copyrighted as...

The Mangina Manologues

In case you are wondering the title is a play on Gloria Steinem's "The Vagina Monologues". 

It's called "talent", buckwheat.  Something that you cannot borrow like a used condom, you cretinous spawn of an evening of mindless beatnik passion coupled with a decade of arduous drug ingestion.

You, Straw and Prime are titularly the 3Spooges of Getbig. 


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2021, 08:46:12 AM
go ahead and point out any thread I've started asking that a poster be banned

dipshit
Did I say you started any threads about that, you fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 24, 2021, 11:26:25 AM
Sometimes it's hard to be a Trumpian
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times
Doin' things that you don't understand
But if you love him, you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him, oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man.
Stand by your man, give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely.
Stand by your man, and show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can.
Stand by your man.
Stand by your man, and show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can.
Stand by your man.
                               
       you got to be really delusional to think trump or biden for that matter gives two shits about any of us. that's why it's comical how all the nut huggers defend their favorite.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 24, 2021, 11:42:11 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
Wow...I am assembling a collection of stellar quotes by you, Straw and Prime and plan on releasing it once I gather enough of your combined sintelligence into a tome I have copyrighted as...

The Mangina Manologues

In case you are wondering the title is a play on Gloria Steinem's "The Vagina Monologues". 

It's called "talent", buckwheat.  Something that you cannot borrow like a used condom, you cretinous spawn of an evening of mindless beatnik passion coupled with a decade of arduous drug ingestion.

You, Straw and Prime are titularly the 3Spooges of Getbig.

Do whatever makes you happy, Scott....if that is a state of mind that is even a possibility in your case.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 12:03:25 PM
Wow...I am assembling a collection of stellar quotes by you, Straw and Prime and plan on releasing it once I gather enough of your combined sintelligence into a tome I have copyrighted as...

The Mangina Manologues

In case you are wondering the title is a play on Gloria Steinem's "The Vagina Monologues". 

It's called "talent", buckwheat.  Something that you cannot borrow like a used condom, you cretinous spawn of an evening of mindless beatnik passion coupled with a decade of arduous drug ingestion.

You, Straw and Prime are titularly the 3Spooges of Getbig.

Coming from someone that admitted he has a low IQ and multiple episodes of head trauma that resulted in scars and dents in his skull, it is clear your handicap isn't just limited to being physical.  It's mental and intellectual as well.

Speaking of "borrowing", why not "borrow" more replies from your "friend" that you admitted to as well.  It certainly is better than the silly pseudo intellect attempts you make on your own.   Now limp your weak ass on out of here. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 12:06:54 PM
Do whatever makes you happy, Scott....if that is a state of mind that is even a possibility in your case.

You mean what he "feeeeeeelllllllsssss"?  You know, in the "real world"?  Not just the "barrel" or whatever the fuck he talks about when they are using the internet down at the nursing home to babysit him?

Let's see what new buzzwords he latches onto next week and looks stupid while using them.  You know you got to hate your life when his favorite quote supplier Genova has a better life than he ever will. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 24, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
Did I say you started any threads about that, you fucking idiot.

you are correct

I have never started any thread saying anyone should be banned

go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
you are correct

I know 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2021, 02:00:34 PM
You mean what he "feeeeeeelllllllsssss"?  You know, in the "real world"?  Not just the "barrel" or whatever the fuck he talks about when they are using the internet down at the nursing home to babysit him?

Let's see what new buzzwords he latches onto next week and looks stupid while using them.  You know you got to hate your life when his favorite quote supplier Genova has a better life than he ever will.

Come on, 'feeeeels' one of his signature lines. It's major part of his writing style which includes mangled words for effect. Each of us has some trade marks that identify us. It is how gimmicks get outed....sooner or later they slip and write something which gives them away.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 24, 2021, 02:06:40 PM
Coming from someone that admitted he has a low IQ and multiple episodes of head trauma that resulted in scars and dents in his skull, it is clear your handicap isn't just limited to being physical.  It's mental and intellectual as well.

Speaking of "borrowing", why not "borrow" more replies from your "friend" that you admitted to as well.  It certainly is better than the silly pseudo intellect attempts you make on your own.   Now limp your weak ass on out of here.

You are in way over your head, especially since it's almost always up your own ass.  Oh..And thanks for the tell.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 24, 2021, 02:15:40 PM
You mean what he "feeeeeeelllllllsssss"?  You know, in the "real world"?  Not just the "barrel" or whatever the fuck he talks about when they are using the internet down at the nursing home to babysit him?

Let's see what new buzzwords he latches onto next week and looks stupid while using them.  You know you got to hate your life when his favorite quote supplier Genova has a better life than he ever will.

Here's a "buzzword" that you should  be intimately familiar with.  Twat.  That would be you and your kind.  You are a twat.  And in case you missed it before.  Thanks for the tell.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 03:15:58 PM
Here's a "buzzword" that you should  be intimately familiar with.  Twat.  That would be you and your kind.  You are a twat.  And in case you missed it before.  Thanks for the tell.

Try harder.  Maybe dust off the FTN and other recycled ones.  Ask your “friend”.  Obviously you can’t do better on your own.   Although no one is expecting much, you’ve still managed to disappoint. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 03:24:10 PM
Come on, 'feeeeels' one of his signature lines. It's major part of his writing style which includes mangled words for effect. Each of us has some trade marks that identify us. It is how gimmicks get outed....sooner or later they slip and write something which gives them away.

Ha!   It’s funny how he starts that pseudo intellect babble as if he’s saying something witty.  Then when you realize he isn’t just trying and that he actually believes that he truly is witty, it just becomes pathetic. 

Sharp as a marble isn’t he?   No wonder he’s so full of self loathing and jealousy to the point of constantly wishing people would die.  It’s apparent he gets those vibes from his own caretakers. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on April 24, 2021, 04:51:28 PM
Ha!   It’s funny how he starts that pseudo intellect babble as if he’s saying something witty.  Then when you realize he isn’t just trying and that he actually believes that he truly is witty, it just becomes pathetic. 

Sharp as a marble isn’t he?   No wonder he’s so full of self loathing and jealousy to the point of constantly wishing people would die.  It’s apparent he gets those vibes from his own caretakers.

Chicago.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 04:59:12 PM
Chicago.

Nice musical.  Lots of dancing.  Would not recommend you attempting it yourself.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2021, 06:00:45 PM
Another week gone by - has the dump been cleared out yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2021, 06:21:02 PM
Another week gone by - has the dump been cleared out yet ?
Straw Mans yard is still a mess and his neighbor Lurkingformen has slacked on his yardwork as well.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2021, 06:47:02 PM
Straw Mans yard is still a mess and his neighbor Lurkingformen has slacked on his yardwork as well.

Maybe straw can hire some of the homeless at Venice beach to help out.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2021, 06:57:22 PM
Straw Mans yard is still a mess and his neighbor Lurkingformen has slacked on his yardwork as well.

Can’t cut grass if you don’t see it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2021, 07:22:04 PM
Can’t cut grass if you don’t see it.
Touché
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 25, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
Straw Mans yard is still a mess and his neighbor Lurkingformen has slacked on his yardwork as well.


This is a thing for sure... Funny how the same people that had Biden signs in their yards in the fall never mow their grass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 10:43:18 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/joe-biden-first-100-days-opinion-poll/?fbclid=IwAR2HeIcDzpXgdyE1ybgyt5aag_FPj1mcpHJjh7kU5ymFplNaY_buR2zd_L0
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2021, 10:46:34 AM

This is a thing for sure... Funny how the same people that had Biden signs in their yards in the fall never mow their grass.

They are not paying for lawn care or maintenance.   Straw - you clean up yet or no?  Come on bro - living like Hoarders show is not being a getbigger.   ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 10:47:03 AM
   
     OH NO
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
    don't worry T-tards there's still hope.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 11:58:59 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
Violent Pro-Trump Domestic Terrorists Stormed the U.S. Capitol With Near Impunity
by: Care2 Team
recipient: D.C. officials
83,562 SUPPORTERS85,000 GOAL
*Photo of terrorist vandalizing and leaving a written threat to Speaker Pelosi in her office during the capitol siege.

On Wednesday, January 6th, 2021, an angry mob of domestic terrorists (all Trump supporters) stormed the U.S. capitol building and occupied it for hours. Their intention was to stop the normally very boring congressional certification of election results. These angry, hateful people were allowed to do this. Now, at 9 PM EST on Wednesday, only 13 arrests have been reported. The people who broke windows, trashed the building, stole podiums, left written threats and more were virtually all allowed to simply walk out of the building freely.

Sign on if you'd like to see every single person who stormed the U.S. Capitol to be arrested, charged and indicted for their crimes.

The Capitol building is supposed to be one of the most secure in the world. And in the past, actual peaceful protestors have been arrested for doing far less than what we saw on January 6th. So why is it that an angry mob of violent insurrectionists were able to occupy the building for several hours and then literally walk away?

In fact, at least one of the leaders who made it into Speaker Pelosi's office and live streamed from there is still at large as of 9 PM EST on January 6th. Worse yet, that person is a neo nazi and holocaust denier, a good example of the kind of people who were a part of this attack.

Many say the reason the building was invaded had to do with law enforcement being unprepared. But why weren't they prepared? The far right white supremacists who did this have been publicly planning this for weeks, with Trump in the lead. It was so well planned, they had actual clothing merchandise which read "MAGA Civil War, January 6th, 2021." So it is extremely suspicious that law enforcement was not ready for what they knew was coming. Worse yet, that it took over 3 hours for law enforcement to regain control of the building.

Here are a few things that reportedly happened, many of them with video and photo evidence proof that should have meant immediate arrest for the perpetrators. A woman was trying to break into the building and she was shot in the neck and killed. People scaled the walls of the building and replaced American flags with Trump flags. Police opened a barricade to allow rioters into the area. At least one police person took time to take a selfie with the insurrectionists inside the building. A man invaded Speaker Pelosi's office, trashed it and left a written threat and stole her mail. Pipe bombs were found nearby. They broke windows and doors, they waived Trump flags and Confederate flags, which have become synonymous. Rioters stole media equipment and destroyed, including turning cords into a noose and hanging them from a tree. A state legislator from West Virginia was among the rioters. They bore QAnon, Proud Boys, Neo Nazi, and other white supremacist insignias. It is all caught on tape, almost none of those people covered their faces. So why are they still walking free?

D.C. Mayor Bowser put a curfew in effect at 6 PM and yet there were still thousands of people in the streets well into the night and cops did nothing but gently ask them to leave. We know police know how to do mass arrests, we know they know how to deploy chemical and non lethal weapons for crowd dispersal, we know because they did it all summer in 2020. So why in the world would they hold back now when this group of terrorists stormed the capitol?

Sign now to demand the traitors who perpetrated this attack are arrested immediately, charged and indicted for their crimes against this country and democracy.

And never forget that when President-Elect Biden called on Trump to call off his violent mob of insurrectionists, Trump instead told them "You're very special, we love you."
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 26, 2021, 02:12:16 PM
funk51 what do you think about the theory that people on the left wanted this mayhem on the 6th to occur? Seems to me all this was pretty predictable. Then they could do everything that followed. If your article is correct, that it's suspicious that police stood down, the police waving them into the Capitol, because they aren't secret Republican MAGAs are they? They wanted some weapons to be found as well but you can't have everything. The pipe bombs may have been plants, I didn't hear that investigation going anywhere.

Those "protestors" weren't a real threat to anything, just a bunch of yahoos and lunatics. Some selfies were taken. Some insurrection.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 26, 2021, 02:51:19 PM
funk51 what do you think about the theory that people on the left wanted this mayhem on the 6th to occur? Seems to me all this was pretty predictable. Then they could do everything that followed. If your article is correct, that it's suspicious that police stood down, the police waving them into the Capitol, because they aren't secret Republican MAGAs are they? They wanted some weapons to be found as well but you can't have everything. The pipe bombs may have been plants, I didn't hear that investigation going anywhere.

Those "protestors" weren't a real threat to anything, just a bunch of yahoos and lunatics. Some selfies were taken. Some insurrection.

It was predictable because Trumpturds behavior is very predictable seeing how they always act like idiots on every occasion. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
funk51 what do you think about the theory that people on the left wanted this mayhem on the 6th to occur? Seems to me all this was pretty predictable. Then they could do everything that followed. If your article is correct, that it's suspicious that police stood down, the police waving them into the Capitol, because they aren't secret Republican MAGAs are they? They wanted some weapons to be found as well but you can't have everything. The pipe bombs may have been plants, I didn't hear that investigation going anywhere.

Those "protestors" weren't a real threat to anything, just a bunch of yahoos and lunatics. Some selfies were taken. Some insurrection.
   see lurker's response below.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 26, 2021, 03:06:20 PM
It was predictable because Trumpturds behavior is very predictable seeing how they always act like idiots on every occasion.

Hahahahahaha....lemming. See Portland and every riot in the country. We don’t start them, we finish them

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 26, 2021, 03:31:54 PM
   see lurker's response below.  ;D

It was predictable because Trumpturds behavior is very predictable seeing how they always act like idiots on every occasion.

It was. But this was in the democrats best interest, couldn't have asked for a better outcome. No one was cheering on the mob more than the left and now they are feigning dismay and outrage. Basic psychology  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 26, 2021, 03:33:53 PM
Hahahahahaha....lemming. See Portland and every riot in the country. We don’t start them, we finish them

 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 03:40:33 PM
https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/election-official-responds-to-gop-state-lawmakers-voter-fraud-revelation/video_8b84caa7-346e-51d7-82f7-353d1635a42d.html        pa lawmaker admits to voter fraud in the presidential election...of course it was by the republicans.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 26, 2021, 03:56:37 PM
https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/election-official-responds-to-gop-state-lawmakers-voter-fraud-revelation/video_8b84caa7-346e-51d7-82f7-353d1635a42d.html        pa lawmaker admits to voter fraud in the presidential election...of course it was by the republicans.

Hahahahahah...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 26, 2021, 03:57:14 PM
8)

🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2021, 04:29:58 PM
8)
             that's the kind of look that could turn milk sour. still better than mister teardrops though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 26, 2021, 05:00:42 PM
funk51 what do you think about the theory that people on the left wanted this mayhem on the 6th to occur? Seems to me all this was pretty predictable. Then they could do everything that followed. If your article is correct, that it's suspicious that police stood down, the police waving them into the Capitol, because they aren't secret Republican MAGAs are they? They wanted some weapons to be found as well but you can't have everything. The pipe bombs may have been plants, I didn't hear that investigation going anywhere.

Those "protestors" weren't a real threat to anything, just a bunch of yahoos and lunatics. Some selfies were taken. Some insurrection.

Just because your crowd are bunch of  fucking morons doesn't in any way mitigate what they did

They stormed the building attacking the police, injuring 140 Officers.  They caused 30 million + in damages.
They forced Congress and the Vice President to stop counting the electoral votes (which was their goal) and let's not forget they erected and while they were storming through the building they were chanting "Hang Mike Pence"

Fuck ANYONE who wants to make excuses for these TRAITORS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2021, 05:02:17 PM
             that's the kind of look that could turn milk sour. still better than mister teardrops though.
Your hardcore leftism is showing again Mr Neutral. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 26, 2021, 11:55:30 PM
Just because your crowd are bunch of  fucking morons doesn't in any way mitigate what they did



They aren't my crowd.

What's sad about that crowd is that they were agitated and fired up by Trump and then Trump refused to stand up for them. He talks a lot about loyalty but he had none himself.
I can respect a man who stands up for his beliefs even if I don't agree, cowards are pathetic. Trump turned on a lot of his people throughout. Now he is utterly beaten forever, zero power left.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 27, 2021, 04:59:02 AM
Your hardcore leftism is showing again Mr Neutral. ;)
   not really, I actually like judge Kavanaugh now, but that doesn't stop me from kidding around about his earlier antics.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 27, 2021, 05:13:50 AM
Hahahahahaha....lemming. See Portland and every riot in the country. We don’t start them, we finish them

Is that so?  Tell us how you finish them.  Oh, by whining on the internet or by going to jail?  How many Trumpturds are facing felony charges now for Jan 6th?  430+?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 27, 2021, 05:14:40 AM


What's sad about that crowd is that they were agitated and fired up by Trump and then Trump refused to stand up for them. He talks a lot about loyalty but he had none himself.
I can respect a man who stands up for his beliefs even if I don't agree, cowards are pathetic. Trump turned on a lot of his people throughout. Now he is utterly beaten forever, zero power left.

^^^ Truth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 27, 2021, 05:55:46 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 09:21:23 AM
Is that so?  Tell us how you finish them.  Oh, by whining on the internet or by going to jail?  How many Trumpturds are facing felony charges now for Jan 6th?  430+?

Nope, we have/had Trump rallies where I’m at and every time BLM/Antifa tries to crash it and in every instance if they didn’t leave peacefully they would get their asses kicked then basically get ran out of town. Why? Our cops here don’t have stand down orders and the community comes out to back the cops. Unlike in shithole Dem ran cities, we haven’t been burned or looted.

A few months ago we had a rally at main and PCH, a frozen water ballon was thrown from the top of a building, it was an Antifa member he was caught and promptly got his ass beat. The rest of this pussies crew ran away
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 27, 2021, 09:27:27 AM
25 days so far to clean up the dump and mess.   Yet here we are.    25 days is a long time to let trash in the yard accumulate, rodents and vermin to infest the pig sty, etc. 

Local officials are probably next w condemnation and health hazard violations. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 27, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
Nope, we have/had Trump rallies where I’m at and every time BLM/Antifa tries to crash it and in every instance if they didn’t leave peacefully they would get their asses kicked then basically get ran out of town. Why? Our cops here don’t have stand down orders and the community comes out to back the cops. Unlike in shithole Dem ran cities, we haven’t been burned or looted.

A few months ago we had a rally at main and PCH, a frozen water ballon was thrown from the top of a building, it was an Antifa member he was caught and promptly got his ass beat. The rest of this pussies crew ran away
               
     and a good time was had by all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 09:49:27 AM
               
     and a good time was had by all.

Not going too watch some anti-cop propaganda bullshit. Go and defund or abolish them then report back....oh wait, the results are already in.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on April 27, 2021, 09:51:39 AM
▫️
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 27, 2021, 12:38:05 PM
Nope, we have/had Trump rallies where I’m at and every time BLM/Antifa tries to crash it and in every instance if they didn’t leave peacefully they would get their asses kicked then basically get ran out of town. Why? Our cops here don’t have stand down orders and the community comes out to back the cops. Unlike in shithole Dem ran cities, we haven’t been burned or looted.

A few months ago we had a rally at main and PCH, a frozen water ballon was thrown from the top of a building, it was an Antifa member he was caught and promptly got his ass beat. The rest of this pussies crew ran away

Let me guess, no evidence of this exists.   Unlike the evidence we see every day on here that you are delusional. 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 12:48:34 PM
Let me guess, no evidence of this exists.   Unlike the evidence we see every day on here that you are delusional.

That’s because you’re a libtard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 27, 2021, 01:07:49 PM
That’s because you’re a libtard

Pretty sure it's because you are an idiot. 

No meds, no therapy, no psych ward, no mental evaluation... you just getting raw dogged everyday by Fragile X syndrome just the way God intended.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 27, 2021, 01:09:18 PM
43 pages and still no word on the clean up.   :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 01:10:56 PM
Pretty sure it's because you are an idiot. 

No meds, no therapy, no psych ward, no mental evaluation... you just getting raw dogged everyday by Fragile X syndrome just the way God intended.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals-more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
They aren't my crowd.

What's sad about that crowd is that they were agitated and fired up by Trump and then Trump refused to stand up for them. He talks a lot about loyalty but he had none himself.
I can respect a man who stands up for his beliefs even if I don't agree, cowards are pathetic. Trump turned on a lot of his people throughout. Now he is utterly beaten forever, zero power left.

It is pretty obvious that with Trump loyalty is a one-way-street.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
Nope, we have/had Trump rallies where I’m at and every time BLM/Antifa tries to crash it and in every instance if they didn’t leave peacefully they would get their asses kicked then basically get ran out of town. Why? Our cops here don’t have stand down orders and the community comes out to back the cops. Unlike in shithole Dem ran cities, we haven’t been burned or looted.

A few months ago we had a rally at main and PCH, a frozen water ballon was thrown from the top of a building, it was an Antifa member he was caught and promptly got his ass beat. The rest of this pussies crew ran away

Where you're at....and where is that? The Political Climate in Huntington Beach, CA is Leaning liberal. In liberal leaning Orange County, CA 50.9% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 42.3% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 6.7% voted Independent.

Individual Campaign Contributions in Huntington Beach, CA

In the last 4 years (2015-2018), there were 24,943 contributions totaling $2,312,539 to the Democratic Party and liberal campaigns, averaging $93 per contribution.

In the last 4 years, there were 6,870 contributions totaling $1,601,020 to the Republican Party and conservative campaigns, averaging $233 per contribution.

Was your contribution at least if not more than $233 ? It is obvious that a lot more Democrats contribute to their party than do Republicans. Why is that?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 27, 2021, 03:21:02 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals-more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/

Breitbart?   “Hahahaha”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 27, 2021, 06:01:09 PM
25 days so far to clean up the dump and mess.   Yet here we are.    25 days is a long time to let trash in the yard accumulate, rodents and vermin to infest the pig sty, etc. 

Local officials are probably next w condemnation and health hazard violations.
Huge mess, neighbors have been complaining.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 08:54:43 PM
Where you're at....and where is that? The Political Climate in Huntington Beach, CA is Leaning liberal. In liberal leaning Orange County, CA 50.9% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 42.3% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 6.7% voted Independent.

Individual Campaign Contributions in Huntington Beach, CA

In the last 4 years (2015-2018), there were 24,943 contributions totaling $2,312,539 to the Democratic Party and liberal campaigns, averaging $93 per contribution.

In the last 4 years, there were 6,870 contributions totaling $1,601,020 to the Republican Party and conservative campaigns, averaging $233 per contribution.

Was your contribution at least if not more than $233 ? It is obvious that a lot more Democrats contribute to their party than do Republicans. Why is that?

Not sure what your point is but it’s totally irrelevant. While Portland still burns to this day for the last what? Year? We’ve made sure our city was untouched. Try to keep up

Also, show your sources
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 27, 2021, 08:58:46 PM
Breitbart?   “Hahahaha”

Quite you non-binary retard, there are men talking.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2021, 01:10:16 AM
Not sure what your point is but it’s totally irrelevant. While Portland still burns to this day for the last what? Year? We’ve made sure our city was untouched. Try to keep up

Also, show your sources

Even if all of Portland was burned to the ground, it wouldn't change the fact that I don't live there anymore than you live in downtown, or east L.A.

You do live in Huntington Beach which is in Orange County. You should know political demographics in your own town. But since you apparently don't....I'll help you out.

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/california/huntington_beach
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 28, 2021, 02:19:06 AM
Breitbart?   “Hahahaha”
Breitbart has to report it because we know your butt buddies on CNN aren't going to do it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 28, 2021, 05:02:03 AM
BackToLurkingYouFagget

Breitbart has to report it because we know your butt buddies on CNN aren't going to do it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2021, 06:26:06 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Kwon on April 28, 2021, 06:27:33 AM
Strawman running (https://i.imgur.com/J18Lz5d.mp4)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 08:12:20 AM
Quite you non-binary retard, there are men talking.

Just 44 pages of you getting your moronic ass owned over and over.  Typical thread result of yours actually. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 08:13:13 AM
Breitbart has to report it because we know your butt buddies on CNN aren't going to do it.

Breitbart reports it because only their idiot readers would believe anything from them. 

Though at least it’s a break from Trumpturds making up lies about hamburgers.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 28, 2021, 08:19:55 AM
Wait till Bidens 2nd term when Vegan Xmas is mandatory and enforced.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 08:37:02 AM
Wait till Bidens 2nd term when Vegan Xmas is mandatory and enforced.

And it is passed, implemented, and enforced by a vote of 91-6 Supreme Court Justices all sworn in with their hand on Kamalas children’s book.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2021, 09:51:35 AM
Just 44 pages of you getting your moronic ass owned over and over.  Typical thread result of yours actually.

Hardly. Still waiting, lemming
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2021, 09:55:04 AM
Even if all of Portland was burned to the ground, it wouldn't change the fact that I don't live there anymore than you live in downtown, or east L.A.

You do live in Huntington Beach which is in Orange County. You should know political demographics in your own town. But since you apparently don't....I'll help you out.

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/california/huntington_beach

Doesn’t matter if you live there or not. It will always be a point of reference for being turned into a shit hole because of liberal governments. Forget HB...we don’t even have it in all of Orange County
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 09:55:34 AM
Hardly. Still waiting, lemming

Keep waiting retard.  44 pages.  Epic beat down by facts and Fragile X syndrome.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2021, 10:01:54 AM
Keep waiting retard.  44 pages.  Epic beat down by facts and Fragile X syndrome.


Is your brawl still on in Lauderdale?   :D  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2021, 11:46:49 AM
Keep waiting retard.  44 pages.  Epic beat down by facts and Fragile X syndrome.

Haven’t seen a fact from you or any of the resident Marxists here yet...but here’s a good one Hahahahaha....

You people and your relentless stupidity lmao

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/27/report-hunter-biden-to-guest-teach-tulane-university-class-on-fake-news-this-fall/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 11:57:20 AM

Is your brawl still on in Lauderdale?   :D  ;D

He never sent OMR his travel plans.  Been MIA ever since.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 11:58:03 AM
Haven’t seen a fact from you or any of the resident Marxists here yet...but here’s a good one Hahahahaha....

You people and your relentless stupidity lmao

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/27/report-hunter-biden-to-guest-teach-tulane-university-class-on-fake-news-this-fall/

You wouldn’t recognized a fact if you saw one.

Page 45 coming up. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2021, 12:44:46 PM
You wouldn’t recognized a fact if you saw one.

Page 45 coming up.

Been debunking your “facts” for the last 12 years now going on 16
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 01:38:18 PM
Been debunking your “facts” for the last 12 years now going on 16

Delusional much?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 28, 2021, 02:15:21 PM
Haven’t seen a fact from you or any of the resident Marxists here yet...but here’s a good one Hahahahaha....

You people and your relentless stupidity lmao

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/27/report-hunter-biden-to-guest-teach-tulane-university-class-on-fake-news-this-fall/

Here is a FACT for you

BIDEN WON THE ELECTION
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 02:43:18 PM
Here is a FACT for you

BIDEN WON THE ELECTION

And.....

Obama’s birth certificate was real.   :o

The pizza place in PizzaGate didn’t have a basement.  :o

Hillary isn’t going to jail.  :o

The coronavirus assassination attempt never happened.  :o

Nobody is coming for your red meat.  :o

The election wasn’t stolen.   :o

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 28, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
Here is a FACT for you

BIDEN WON THE ELECTION


Yeah - just like Chavez used to. He also had Dominion Voting Systems helping out, you dumb Kunt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 28, 2021, 02:45:23 PM
And.....

Obama’s birth certificate was real.   :o

The pizza place in PizzaGate didn’t have a basement.  :o

Hillary isn’t going to jail.  :o

The coronavirus assassination attempt never happened.  :o

Nobody is coming for your red meat.  :o

The election wasn’t stolen.   :o


Man - switching between gimmicks that fast must be hard, jerkernomore, haha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 28, 2021, 03:08:05 PM

Yeah - just like Chavez used to. He also had Dominion Voting Systems helping out, you dumb Kunt.

Seriously, you come across as one dumb cunt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 28, 2021, 03:23:09 PM
Seriously, you come across as one dumb guy.

He's the certified moron who claimed no one would be talking about COVID after the election

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 03:24:14 PM

Man - switching between gimmicks that fast must be hard, jerkernomore, haha

Maybe.  If I did.  Then you might have a point.  Since I’m not a gimmick, you don’t.  No surprise.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2021, 03:25:21 PM
44 pages !   Keep it going.  :P
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 03:25:38 PM
Seriously, you come across as one dumb guy.


Y’all ease back.  Stupid people never realize they are actually stupid.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 03:26:46 PM
He's the certified moron who claimed no one would be talking about COVID after the election


Hahaha.. funny because it’s absolutely true.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 28, 2021, 03:32:12 PM

Y’all ease back.  Stupid people never realize they are actually stupid.

phony "coach" should get that tattoed in reverse on his forehead so he is reminded of this every time he looks in the mirror
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
Doesn’t matter if you live there or not. It will always be a point of reference for being turned into a shit hole because of liberal governments. Forget HB...we don’t even have it in all of Orange County

Well, it matters to me where I live. Even if Portland were a shit hole, which it is not, it would still be less of a shit hole than many California cities. Maybe, this explains why Oregon is growing in population while California is losing people. As a result of the latest census, Oregon gained 1 house seat. It will most likely be filled by a Democrat....one less vote for your side....friend.

Have what? Democrats? Apparently you do.

Here's a few photos of neighborhoods within city limits in Portland, OR. Some of them are actually in downtown Portland or walking distance from downtown.

Portland Heights....shit hole?
(https://www.theportlandlife.com/wp-content/gallery/sample-area-photos/cache/Park.jpg-nggid03184-ngg0dyn-1000x666x65-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg)

Laurelhurst....shit hole?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/1e/d3/aa1ed3fd4d04bc232d5f309628ea94d1.jpg)

Eastmoreland....shit hole?
(https://1859oregonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Eastmoreland.jpg)

Alameda.....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Alameda_Portland_Real_Estate.png)

Irvington....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Irvington_Portland_Robert_F_Lytle_House.png)

Restoration Hardware, NW 23rd Ave.....part of a shit hole shopping district 23 blocks from the Willamette river in downtown Portland.
(https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20180409005292/en/650329/5/RH_Portland_Exterior_Proof_7.jpg)

Garthwick....just another shit hole neighborhood
(https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/84/mbphoto/991/genMid.12404991_0.jpg)

Mount Tabor....a real shit hole place to live
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/4b/0b/fe4b0b21aa7c5cf3a9413f0468b9cd4a.jpg)

Montclair....OMG what a shit hole place this is
(https://www.livingroomre.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/20190926_01.png)

This shit hole, The Pearl is in downtown Portland
(https://bt-wpstatic.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/2275/files/2015/12/Pearl-District-e1570656498397.png)

View of shit hole Portland from less than a mile from downtown in Washington Park
(https://cdn.wedding-spot.com/__sized__/images/venues/5548/Washington-Park-Amphitheater-Portland-OR-47635a3b-f81a-4730-bdad-9f515daa444e-818c52eca3fc4bc981be79f06d243cde.png)

Waverly is on the fringes, but still within Portland city limits...such an amazing shit hole
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a81f484340d5d9d7ce68043286b3780b-p_h.jpg)

Pioneer Square in the center of downtown Portland...look at all that shit.
(https://www.treksplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/pioneer-courthouse-square-portland.jpg)

I could go on forever....but this should give you some idea of shit hole Portland, OR









Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on April 28, 2021, 03:49:38 PM
Prime - you're wasting your time

These idiots only believe what they see on Faux News

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2021, 04:27:47 PM
45!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 28, 2021, 05:37:53 PM
Wait till Bidens 2nd term when Vegan Xmas is mandatory and enforced.
If this happens I will personally hunt you down and rape your face.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on April 28, 2021, 05:40:49 PM
Well, it matters to me where I live. Even if Portland were a shit hole, which it is not, it would still be less of a shit hole than many California cities. Maybe, this explains why Oregon is growing in population while California is losing people. As a result of the latest census, Oregon gained 1 house seat. It will most likely be filled by a Democrat....one less vote for your side....friend.
Oregon is beautiful, like much of CA. Unfortunately it's run by fucking morons, elected by stupid fucks like yourself, just like CA. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 28, 2021, 05:41:09 PM
45!

He didn’t get re-elected.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 28, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
If this happens I will personally hunt you down and rape your face.

Promises.  Promises.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2021, 08:00:09 PM
Well, it matters to me where I live. Even if Portland were a shit hole, which it is not, it would still be less of a shit hole than many California cities. Maybe, this explains why Oregon is growing in population while California is losing people. As a result of the latest census, Oregon gained 1 house seat. It will most likely be filled by a Democrat....one less vote for your side....friend.

Have what? Democrats? Apparently you do.

Here's a few photos of neighborhoods within city limits in Portland, OR. Some of them are actually in downtown Portland or walking distance from downtown.

Portland Heights....shit hole?
(https://www.theportlandlife.com/wp-content/gallery/sample-area-photos/cache/Park.jpg-nggid03184-ngg0dyn-1000x666x65-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg)

Laurelhurst....shit hole?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/1e/d3/aa1ed3fd4d04bc232d5f309628ea94d1.jpg)

Eastmoreland....shit hole?
(https://1859oregonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Eastmoreland.jpg)

Alameda.....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Alameda_Portland_Real_Estate.png)

Irvington....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Irvington_Portland_Robert_F_Lytle_House.png)

Restoration Hardware, NW 23rd Ave.....part of a shit hole shopping district 23 blocks from the Willamette river in downtown Portland.
(https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20180409005292/en/650329/5/RH_Portland_Exterior_Proof_7.jpg)

Garthwick....just another shit hole neighborhood
(https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/84/mbphoto/991/genMid.12404991_0.jpg)

Mount Tabor....a real shit hole place to live
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/4b/0b/fe4b0b21aa7c5cf3a9413f0468b9cd4a.jpg)

Montclair....OMG what a shit hole place this is
(https://www.livingroomre.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/20190926_01.png)

This shit hole, The Pearl is in downtown Portland
(https://bt-wpstatic.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/2275/files/2015/12/Pearl-District-e1570656498397.png)

View of shit hole Portland from less than a mile from downtown in Washington Park
(https://cdn.wedding-spot.com/__sized__/images/venues/5548/Washington-Park-Amphitheater-Portland-OR-47635a3b-f81a-4730-bdad-9f515daa444e-818c52eca3fc4bc981be79f06d243cde.png)

Waverly is on the fringes, but still within Portland city limits...such an amazing shit hole
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a81f484340d5d9d7ce68043286b3780b-p_h.jpg)

Pioneer Square in the center of downtown Portland...look at all that shit.
(https://www.treksplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/pioneer-courthouse-square-portland.jpg)

I could go on forever....but this should give you some idea of shit hole Portland, OR

You went everywhere but downtown where your mayor refused to control now he’s crying like a bitch for help....fuck him. It’s also your fault for supporting anything Dem especially this beta sissy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 28, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Well, it matters to me where I live. Even if Portland were a shit hole, which it is not, it would still be less of a shit hole than many California cities. Maybe, this explains why Oregon is growing in population while California is losing people. As a result of the latest census, Oregon gained 1 house seat. It will most likely be filled by a Democrat....one less vote for your side....friend.

Have what? Democrats? Apparently you do.

Here's a few photos of neighborhoods within city limits in Portland, OR. Some of them are actually in downtown Portland or walking distance from downtown.

Portland Heights....shit hole?
(https://www.theportlandlife.com/wp-content/gallery/sample-area-photos/cache/Park.jpg-nggid03184-ngg0dyn-1000x666x65-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg)

Laurelhurst....shit hole?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/1e/d3/aa1ed3fd4d04bc232d5f309628ea94d1.jpg)

Eastmoreland....shit hole?
(https://1859oregonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Eastmoreland.jpg)

Alameda.....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Alameda_Portland_Real_Estate.png)

Irvington....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Irvington_Portland_Robert_F_Lytle_House.png)

Restoration Hardware, NW 23rd Ave.....part of a shit hole shopping district 23 blocks from the Willamette river in downtown Portland.
(https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20180409005292/en/650329/5/RH_Portland_Exterior_Proof_7.jpg)

Garthwick....just another shit hole neighborhood
(https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/84/mbphoto/991/genMid.12404991_0.jpg)

Mount Tabor....a real shit hole place to live
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/4b/0b/fe4b0b21aa7c5cf3a9413f0468b9cd4a.jpg)

Montclair....OMG what a shit hole place this is
(https://www.livingroomre.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/20190926_01.png)

This shit hole, The Pearl is in downtown Portland
(https://bt-wpstatic.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/2275/files/2015/12/Pearl-District-e1570656498397.png)

View of shit hole Portland from less than a mile from downtown in Washington Park
(https://cdn.wedding-spot.com/__sized__/images/venues/5548/Washington-Park-Amphitheater-Portland-OR-47635a3b-f81a-4730-bdad-9f515daa444e-818c52eca3fc4bc981be79f06d243cde.png)

Waverly is on the fringes, but still within Portland city limits...such an amazing shit hole
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a81f484340d5d9d7ce68043286b3780b-p_h.jpg)

Pioneer Square in the center of downtown Portland...look at all that shit.
(https://www.treksplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/pioneer-courthouse-square-portland.jpg)

I could go on forever....but this should give you some idea of shit hole Portland, OR


My god, look at all that white privilege!

Ya just don't get it do ya?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: POB on April 28, 2021, 11:24:20 PM
You went everywhere but downtown where your mayor refused to control now he’s crying like a bitch for help....fuck him. It’s also your fault for supporting anything Dem especially this beta sissy

This, fuck him he let them burn the shit down.  now acts likes he’s mad a year later gtfo with that
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2021, 06:23:46 AM
Well, it matters to me where I live. Even if Portland were a shit hole, which it is not, it would still be less of a shit hole than many California cities. Maybe, this explains why Oregon is growing in population while California is losing people. As a result of the latest census, Oregon gained 1 house seat. It will most likely be filled by a Democrat....one less vote for your side....friend.

Have what? Democrats? Apparently you do.

Here's a few photos of neighborhoods within city limits in Portland, OR. Some of them are actually in downtown Portland or walking distance from downtown.

Portland Heights....shit hole?
(https://www.theportlandlife.com/wp-content/gallery/sample-area-photos/cache/Park.jpg-nggid03184-ngg0dyn-1000x666x65-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg)

Laurelhurst....shit hole?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/1e/d3/aa1ed3fd4d04bc232d5f309628ea94d1.jpg)

Eastmoreland....shit hole?
(https://1859oregonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Eastmoreland.jpg)

Alameda.....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Alameda_Portland_Real_Estate.png)

Irvington....shit hole?
(https://assets.site-static.com/userFiles/1946/image/Irvington_Portland_Robert_F_Lytle_House.png)

Restoration Hardware, NW 23rd Ave.....part of a shit hole shopping district 23 blocks from the Willamette river in downtown Portland.
(https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20180409005292/en/650329/5/RH_Portland_Exterior_Proof_7.jpg)

Garthwick....just another shit hole neighborhood
(https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/84/mbphoto/991/genMid.12404991_0.jpg)

Mount Tabor....a real shit hole place to live
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/4b/0b/fe4b0b21aa7c5cf3a9413f0468b9cd4a.jpg)

Montclair....OMG what a shit hole place this is
(https://www.livingroomre.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/20190926_01.png)

This shit hole, The Pearl is in downtown Portland
(https://bt-wpstatic.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/2275/files/2015/12/Pearl-District-e1570656498397.png)

View of shit hole Portland from less than a mile from downtown in Washington Park
(https://cdn.wedding-spot.com/__sized__/images/venues/5548/Washington-Park-Amphitheater-Portland-OR-47635a3b-f81a-4730-bdad-9f515daa444e-818c52eca3fc4bc981be79f06d243cde.png)

Waverly is on the fringes, but still within Portland city limits...such an amazing shit hole
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a81f484340d5d9d7ce68043286b3780b-p_h.jpg)

Pioneer Square in the center of downtown Portland...look at all that shit.
(https://www.treksplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/pioneer-courthouse-square-portland.jpg)

I could go on forever....but this should give you some idea of shit hole Portland, OR
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2021, 06:28:34 AM
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Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo had former President Donald Trump on her show, and of course, it turned into whine-fest. Predictably, Trump on Thursday morning responded to President Joe Biden’s first address to Congress. The former president complained, saying that Biden is “ungracious” by not acknowledging the “accomplishments” of the Trump administration in his speech. However, I don’t recall Trump ever giving credit to his predecessor for handing him a healthy economy to work with.
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“You see how they’re blaming you on everything, and they do not attribute the successes that you had to your administration,” Bartiromo said. “How do you feel about that?”
“It’s ridiculous,” Trump said. “Obviously, they’re very ungracious people. I did the vaccine. They like to take the vaccine. But even the fake news isn’t giving them credit for that. We did the vaccine, saved tens of millions of lives throughout the world by coming up with a vaccine. If I weren’t president, vaccine, you wouldn’t have a vaccine for five years; three to five years would be the minimum. I got it done in less than nine months. And that’s only because of me.”

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Trump continued to drone on, suggesting that the Biden administration is taking credit for Operation Warp Speed, saying “we had a great delivery system and all they did is take what we had and keep it moving.” He then ranted about the temporary pause of the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine, suggesting somehow that it was done for political reasons or to appease Pfizer.

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However, the Trump administration pledged 40 million coronavirus vaccine doses in December. It delivered fewer than 32 million. Biden promised to deliver one million shots in 100 days. He delivered 200 million. And Trump didn’t “do” the vaccine any more than Biden did. That credit goes to the scientists. And Trump didn’t have a plan to distribute the vaccines.

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According to a new poll, 71% of Americans that watched Biden’s speech said they walked away feeling more optimistic about the country’s direction. President Biden didn’t list his grievances or lash out at his critics. Biden didn’t dance to YMCA while Americans are dying. President Biden remains laser-focused on fighting COVID-19 instead of holding super-spreader rallies as his predecessor did. And now, Trump wants credit for Biden’s success in distributing the same vaccine he took privately.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 30, 2021, 06:50:27 AM
Looks like the markets are figuring out that there’s nothing but “Straw Men” on Twitter.

By far the worst Social Networking site:

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 30, 2021, 06:52:36 AM
46!   Lets go 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2021, 07:05:34 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2021, 10:17:39 AM
    inbred ?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 30, 2021, 10:19:44 AM
From Newsmax - Rudy Giuliani: FBI Raid Evidence 'Exculpatory' of Innocence

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1019576/16

Did I mention it was an Obama appointed judge that signed the order  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 30, 2021, 10:20:48 AM
Another week has gone by - has the yard been cleared of the debris and filth?  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 30, 2021, 10:21:25 AM
Rudy and his horse teeth are a caricature of himself at this point.   He and the Pillow Guy is trying to see who can out kiss Trumpy's ass at this point.  And what's it gotten for them?  Lawsuits.  Well that and having to put in free work by Rudy because we all know he hasn't been paid in the past.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 30, 2021, 10:24:06 AM
From Newsmax - Rudy Giuliani: FBI Raid Evidence 'Exculpatory' of Innocence

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1019576/16

Did I mention it was an Obama appointed judge that signed the order  :)

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“Who appointed the judge? President Barack Obama!” Andrew declared. “You have an Obama-appointed judge who has signed this warrant where no other judge would sign this warrant.”

“You have proof that no other judge would sign the warrant?” Burnett asked.

“I don’t have any proof,” Giuliani admitted. “But do you have proof that any other judge would sign the warrant?”
----

Coach like logic and excuse making.  Could Andrew Giuliani suffer from Fragile X syndrome too?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on April 30, 2021, 10:28:14 AM
Prime - you're wasting your time

These idiots only believe what they see on Faux News
Your Mother should have been on trial for not having an abortion.
Maybe the Doctors mistaked you for the after birth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on April 30, 2021, 10:20:19 PM
Your Mother should have been on trial for not having an abortion.
Maybe the Doctors mistaked you for the after birth.

"mistook" you fucking dolt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 01, 2021, 06:36:09 AM
"mistook" you fucking dolt.

Maybe his IQ "mistakedly" ran down his father's leg.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 01, 2021, 07:35:31 AM
Another week has gone by - has the yard been cleared of the debris and filth?  :D

Nope, the washing machine is still in the front yard with the '68 Plymouth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 01, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
I'm only posting to help get this thread to page 46 so I don't have to scroll half an hour through those pictures of Portland again.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 01, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
I'm only posting to help get this thread to page 46 so I don't have to scroll half an hour through those pictures of Portland again.
               
                                  this is coach's most popular thread ever and it's all due to his hatred of strawman. I think deep down he may actually like him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 01, 2021, 10:28:19 AM
               
                                  this is coach's most popular thread ever and it's all due to his hatred of strawman. I think deep down he may actually like him.

Just another thread of Coach that backfired in his face.  Nothing to see here.  Except Strawman's brutal ownage of Coach's mind.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on May 01, 2021, 12:12:15 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/04/30/newsmax-apologizes-to-dominion-exec-as-it-settles-lawsuit-over-false-voter-fraud-claims/?sh=1c46fc2715cd
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2021, 12:18:36 PM
You went everywhere but downtown where your mayor refused to control now he’s crying like a bitch for help....fuck him. It’s also your fault for supporting anything Dem especially this beta sissy

-Guess you've never been to Portland because Pioneer (courthouse) Square is at the center of downtown Portland and it is where folks gather prior to demonstrations, parades and just to hang out. The Pearl District is considered part of downtown and it is part of the area rioters have vandalized store fronts.

Said it before and I am saying it again because you are so dense you need reminding. I don't live in Portland. Therefore I couldn't support Ted Wheeler if I wanted to. In order to vote for the mayor of a city you have to live in that city. But then one would think someone who is as politically savvy as you seem to think you are would know that.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/VUAMdXGVf8q0qW5pvY0QlkD23e4Oy56AKMH67zRPsnEz3syN4O-DvsiBhOx6KSL5ypb7yxlz-4AQW6gcmZQIxCBxChzUmLpb_Ksl8TmP)

http://www.carolmendelmaps.com/mapor/or5.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2021, 12:23:07 PM
I'm only posting to help get this thread to page 46 so I don't have to scroll half an hour through those pictures of Portland again.

Ha, ha. You must have really studied each photo in depth if it took you a half hour to scroll through them.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tommywishbone on May 01, 2021, 12:28:19 PM
Portlands finest qualities...

#1  Loprinzi's gym
#2  Voodoo Doughnuts
#3  Blue Star Doughnuts
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 01, 2021, 01:05:57 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/04/30/newsmax-apologizes-to-dominion-exec-as-it-settles-lawsuit-over-false-voter-fraud-claims/?sh=1c46fc2715cd

HAHAHAHAHAHA

In a Friday afternoon statement, Newsmax acknowledged it had broadcast voter fraud claims against Coomer and admitted there’s no evidence any of them were true.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 01, 2021, 01:40:01 PM
Portlands finest qualities...

#1  Loprinzi's gym
#2  Voodoo Doughnuts
#3  Blue Star Doughnuts
I forgot that the loprinzis were from portland.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on May 02, 2021, 04:26:03 AM
Maybe strawman was a test tube baby.  :-X
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 02, 2021, 04:45:10 AM
46 pages  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 06:08:37 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA

In a Friday afternoon statement, Newsmax acknowledged it had broadcast voter fraud claims against Coomer and admitted there’s no evidence any of them were true.

Hahahahahaha...

OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 5:50 PM PT – Friday, April 30, 2021

Newsmax caved to left-wing pressure by reversing all stories covering fraud in the 2020 election. Early Friday, the media outlet posted a statement to “clarify its coverage” of Dominion voting machines and the ongoing fraud investigation.

In a statement, Newsmax admitted that while they did report — and in doing so — supported arguments and evidence brought forth by President Trump, among others, they themselves found no evidence of fraud.

Following the publication, Dr. Coomer, the director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion, settled his lawsuit against Newsmax.

Meanwhile, several entities, including President Trump’s campaign staff, attorneys Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, as well as One America News, have not caved and are continuing to investigate despite the suit against them.

You’ll never beat me😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 06:33:42 AM
Just another thread of Coach that backfired in his face.  Nothing to see here.  Except Strawman's brutal ownage of Coach's mind.

Yes, a 46 page backfire while even when I’m gone still continues on. Might want to check that poll again on the first page. Not exactly a blowout 😂😂😂

But it’s nice you’re here taking up the slack for your alter ego lol

Still waiting on that proof
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 02, 2021, 06:40:24 AM
Coach posts something to prove demi-kvnts are corrupt traitors.

Like clock-work, the 'hero's to the brainless'(dem's) jump in here with their classic "Oh ya, well, uhmm, Trump, uhmm".
Without fail, every post. Talk about ownage of the few insane demonkvnts here lol. Mindless twats.

same old, same old.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 07:02:08 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/04/30/newsmax-apologizes-to-dominion-exec-as-it-settles-lawsuit-over-false-voter-fraud-claims/?sh=1c46fc2715cd

But hey, at least they didn’t lie

https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/new-york-times-wapo-nbc-forced-to-retract-false-claims-about-giuliani/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 07:03:02 AM
Coach posts something to prove demi-kvnts are corrupt traitors.

Like clock-work, the 'hero's to the brainless'(dem's) jump in here with their classic "Oh ya, well, uhmm, Trump, uhmm".
Without fail, every post. Talk about ownage of the few insane demonkvnts here lol. Mindless twats.

same old, same old.

It’s part of what makes this so easy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 02, 2021, 08:18:57 AM
Yes, a 46 page backfire while even when I’m gone still continues on. Might want to check that poll again on the first page. Not exactly a blowout 😂😂😂

But it’s nice you’re here taking up the slack for your alter ego lol

Still waiting on that proof

Complete blowout.  Landslide.  Just like Trumpys loss was. 

46 pages of your Fragile X syndrome kicking your ass when Strawman isn't. 

"Still waiting" on that fake birth certificate proof, pizzagate basement, covid assassination attempt... etc... you don't like to address those do you? 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2021, 09:41:05 AM
Another week has gone by - has the yard been cleared of the debris and filth?  :D
Not even close, it's long invaded the neighbors yard.

"mistook" you fucking dolt.
LMAO, the hypocrisy, the humor, it's all there!!

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 09:43:26 AM
Complete blowout.  Landslide.  Just like Trumpys loss was. 

46 pages of your Fragile X syndrome kicking your ass when Strawman isn't. 

"Still waiting" on that fake birth certificate proof, pizzagate basement, covid assassination attempt... etc... you don't like to address those do you?

Sure it was 😂

“80mil votes” hahHahahahahahah

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 02, 2021, 11:25:42 AM
 ;D trump= fake news, fake polls, fake president. but he made for some entertainment while it lasted.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
;D trump= fake news, fake polls, fake president. but he made for some entertainment while it lasted.
You 4 retards keep him in the news. Good job!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 02, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
You 4 retards keep him in the news. Good job!

This should be interesting
Can you explain exactly how we are keep THE TRAITOR  in the news
How does that work?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 01:54:06 PM
This should be interesting
Can you explain exactly how we are keep THE TRAITOR  in the news
How does that work?

Never out of the news cycle. NEVR
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 02, 2021, 02:14:28 PM
Never out of the news cycle. NEVR

can you translate this from Trumptard to English
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tommywishbone on May 02, 2021, 02:17:11 PM
I forgot that the loprinzis were from portland.

Kick ass old school gym.  For real old school.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2021, 04:35:42 PM
This should be interesting
Can you explain exactly how we are keep THE TRAITOR  in the news
How does that work?

Trump is trying to remain relevant and losing. He keeps himself in the news. He doesn't need help doing it, he's doing just fine at it all on his own.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2021, 05:57:12 PM
Trump is trying to remain relevant and losing. He keeps himself in the news. He doesn't need help doing it, he's doing just fine at it all on his own.

In your own words how is not remaining relevant if the left are constantly putting him at the top of the news cycle? I can tell you right now he’s more relevant than Biden. The left are visible scared to death of him. Just wait until his rallies start up again
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2021, 06:00:23 PM
This should be interesting
Can you explain exactly how we are keep THE TRAITOR  in the news
How does that work?
You really need an explanation ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 03, 2021, 09:42:08 AM
Sure it was 😂

“80mil votes” hahHahahahahahah

Yep.  Because the Republican state officials, Republican lower courts, Republican majority SC, Republican AG, and Republican VP all said so.

Sucks that your party "stole" the election from it's own candidate.

"hahahaha"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2021, 10:35:00 AM
Yep.  Because the Republican state officials, Republican lower courts, Republican majority SC, Republican AG, and Republican VP all said so.

Sucks that your party "stole" the election from it's own candidate.

"hahahaha"

Be happy you are in Florida w DeSantis and NY w Cuomo.   ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 11:49:39 AM
Be happy you are in Florida w DeSantis and NY w Cuomo.   ;)
     
     aren't you the guy who has trouble opening twist off bottles   ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???     ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 12:20:22 PM
You really need an explanation ???

yes

tell me how I (an individual on an obscure message board)or anyone else on this board is keeping THE TRAITOR in the news

I assume you're aware that we don't write the news so I'm not able to follow your retarded train of thought

you do know that..right?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2021, 12:21:05 PM
     
     aren't you the guy who has trouble opening twist off bottles   ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???     ;D

Yup.  Florida has destroying NY in everything lately.   Cuomo is a KUNT!    DeSantis is wrecking my liberal garbage communist state in every category. 

BTW -  47 Pages!    Lets go 50! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 12:30:07 PM
Yup.  Florida has destroying NY in everything lately.   Cuomo is a KUNT!    DeSantis is wrecking my liberal garbage communist state in every category. 

BTW -  47 Pages!    Lets go 50!
     
&t=52s     
   
     
1    I'm thinking like 100 pages should just about cover it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 12:35:04 PM
Sure it was 😂

“80mil votes” hahHahahahahahah
Read it and weep.

Newsmax apologizes to employee of Dominion Voting Systems over false election accusations
Eric Coomer said he was forced into hiding after receiving death threats

“Newsmax would like to clarify its coverage of Dr. Coomer and note that while Newsmax initially covered claims by President Trump’s lawyers, supporters and others that Dr. Coomer played a role in manipulating Dominion voting machines, Dominion voting software, and the final vote counts in the 2020 presidential election, Newsmax subsequently found no evidence that such allegations were true. Many of the states whose results were contested by the Trump campaign after the November 2020 election have conducted extensive recounts and audits, and each of these states certified the results as legal and final.”

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/1/22414305/newsmax-apologize-voting-dominion-conspiracy-election-trump
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 12:36:26 PM
&index=6   
&index=7   
&index=4   
   give him trial by combat
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 03, 2021, 12:40:09 PM
Read it and weep.


Every American with at least 1 brain-cell should be weeping that this marxist, commie org is in office.
That is of course unless you love seeing the country turned into a 3rd world shit-hole?

Thankfully, you'll be dead soon anyways, and your family will have to live their lives, finding your gay 'sexual/glory-hole' posts here and glory-hole gargling all over the webz forever.
And how you treated your dying wife, sneaking out to swallow some Man-Aise.

Quality person you are Osborne.  Typical perverted demented retard lib.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 12:59:29 PM
Every American with at least 1 brain-cell should be weeping that this marxist, commie org is in office.
That is of course unless you love seeing the country turned into a 3rd world shit-hole?

Thankfully, you'll be dead soon anyways, and your family will have to live their lives, finding your gay 'sexual/glory-hole' posts here and glory-hole gargling all over the webz forever.
And how you treated your dying wife, sneaking out to swallow some Man-Aise.

Quality person you are Osborne.  Typical perverted demented retard lib.

It is a benefit to you and others who post dumb homophobic shit like this that my family doesn't follow Getbig. You best hope they never do. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 01:31:53 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
.

She’s biggest never Trumper in the GOP. She was Centured by her own people in Wyoming....you never learn

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/02/06/wyoming-republicans-censure-liz-cheney-over-trump-impeachment/amp/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 03:14:53 PM
She’s biggest never Trumper in the GOP. She was Centured by her own people in Wyoming....you never learn

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/02/06/wyoming-republicans-censure-liz-cheney-over-trump-impeachment/amp/

who gives a shit what a bunch of Trumptards think

She is the one TELLING THE TRUTH

...you never learn
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 03, 2021, 03:30:18 PM
It is a benefit to you and others who post dumb homophobic shit like this that my family doesn't follow Getbig. You best hope they never do.

HEY OMR...THERE IS A POST MISSING HERE!

HOW MANY TIMES DID THE RANCID OLD QUEER HIT THE REPORT TO MODERATOR BUTTON?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 03:31:48 PM
She’s biggest never Trumper in the GOP. She was Centured by her own people in Wyoming....you never learn

At least some of the GOP like Liz Chaney, have their head on straight. If more of the GOP was as smart as she  and John Kasich, Colin Powell, Miles Taylor, Christine Whitman,  Meg Whitman, Susan Molinari, Carly Fiorina, Francis Rooney, Charlie Dent; more than 70 top Republican national security officials, including  Chuck Hagel, Michael Hayden, John Negroponte, William Webster and then there's Jeff Flake, Gordon Humphrey, John Warner, Steve Bartlett, William Clinger Jr., Tom Coleman, Charles Djou, Mickey Edwards, Wayne Gilchrest, Jim Greenwood, Bob Inglis, Jim Kolbe, Steve Kuykendall, Ray LaHood, Jim Leach, Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, John Bolton, Phil Scott, William H. McRaven and others who have expressed misgivings about Trump, the GOP might stand a chance of surviving at least for awhile longer.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:36:04 PM
who gives a shit what a bunch of Trumptards think

She is the one TELLING THE TRUTH

...you never learn

Because she thinks so? She has no proof either 😂

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 03, 2021, 03:37:38 PM
Because she thinks so? She has no proof either 😂



I'm going to jerk off to Liz tonight on my lunch break.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM
At least some of the GOP like Liz Chaney, have their head on straight. If more of the GOP was as smart as she  and John Kasich, Colin Powell, Miles Taylor, Christine Whitman,  Meg Whitman, Susan Molinari, Carly Fiorina, Francis Rooney, Charlie Dent; more than 70 top Republican national security officials, including  Chuck Hagel, Michael Hayden, John Negroponte, William Webster and then there's Jeff Flake, Gordon Humphrey, John Warner, Steve Bartlett, William Clinger Jr., Tom Coleman, Charles Djou, Mickey Edwards, Wayne Gilchrest, Jim Greenwood, Bob Inglis, Jim Kolbe, Steve Kuykendall, Ray LaHood, Jim Leach, Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, John Bolton, Phil Scott, William H. McRaven and others who have expressed misgivings about Trump, the GOP might stand a chance of surviving at least for awhile longer.

Every one in that list is a RINO ....

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:40:19 PM
I'm going to jerk off to Liz tonight on my lunch break.  ;D

lol....her wife would take offense to that lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 03:43:02 PM
Because she thinks so? She has no proof either 😂

No, because it's a FACT you FUCKING MORON

The one with no proof is YOU
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 03, 2021, 03:47:26 PM
lol....her wife would take offense to that lol

Her sister is the dyke, not Liz.  Or have things changed.  If I struggle with Liz, I'll pull her sister in to help me see things through.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:48:34 PM
No, because it's a FACT you FUCKING MORON

The one with no proof is YOU

Show me proof. 47 pages and you haven’t shown shit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 03:48:48 PM
No, because it's a FACT you FUCKING MORON

The one with no proof is YOU
  but that never stopped him before.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 03:50:13 PM
Her sister is the dyke, not Liz.  Or have things changed.  If I struggle with Liz, I'll pull her sister in to help me see things through.

Oh..I thought is was Liz
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
Show me proof. 47 pages and you haven’t shown shit

it's been shown to you many times ...so what's the point of wasting my time

the only thing let to say is
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 03:51:58 PM
  but that never stopped him before.
                            that should read lie.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 03:52:08 PM
Oh..I thought is was Liz

wrong again

you "think" a lot of things that aren't true

fucking idiot
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 04:01:02 PM
More Republicans have raised concern that Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is distracting the party from the GOP policy agenda and hurting its chance to take back the House majority in 2022.

This idea that you just disregard President [Donald] Trump is not where we are,” Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) said on Friday during an interview with Axios. “And frankly, he has a lot to offer still and has offered a lot. He wants to help us win the House back.”

The House Minority Whip said Cheney’s anti-Trump narrative is sending out the wrong message and giving the public the false impression that the Republican Party is deeply divided.

Scalise said that the GOP is “very unified” on its policy agenda.

“I do think we’ve got to focus on what it’s going to take to get the House back and present conservative alternatives to this far-left socialist movement we’re seeing. Those were the conversations we were having,” the House number two Republican stated. “We were very unified by the way.”

Scalise emphasized that Trump is still a very active and vocal leader of the Republican Party.

“He brought millions of people off the sidelines in 2016 that never voted for Republicans or Democrats who really embraced his message and he delivered for those hardworking and forgotten men and women,” he added.

Scalise’s remarks came after Cheney, the House Republican Conference Chairwoman, continued a pattern of criticizing Trump and downplaying his influence during the annual GOP legislative retreat recently held in Orlando, Florida.

On April 26, Cheney responded to a reporter asking her what role she would like to see the former president take in Republicans’ attempt to regain control of the House and Senate in 2022.

“I think right now, the Republican Party is headed by Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy in the House. I think our elected leaders are the ones who are in charge of the Republican Party,” Cheney said, referring to the Senate and House minority leaders.

McCarthy criticized Cheney’s remarks as a distraction.

If you’re sitting here at a retreat that’s focused on policy, focused on the future of making America next-century, and you’re talking about something else, you’re not being productive,” he told reporters.

However, Cheney refused to walk back her criticism, saying “it matters hugely to the survival of the country.”

More Republicans have since spoken out against Cheney’s public dismissal of Trump, some even question her leadership role in the party.

Her lack of focus on that, while being focused on other things, and proving her point, was an unwelcome distraction,” Rep Jim Banks (R-Ind.) told Axios. “The sort of sideline distractions at the GOP retreat will only serve to hold us back from being focused on that nearly unanimous goal we have as a conference.”

Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas) went further, predicting that Cheney’s leadership role will be terminated before the end of May.

PREDICTION: she’ll be out of her GOP leadership role by month’s end!” he wrote in a Twitter post.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 04:01:40 PM
wrong again

you "think" a lot of things that aren't true

fucking idiot

Go mow your lawn, Karl
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 04:10:02 PM
Go mow your lawn, Karl

I hire people to do that
I'd offer you the job but you're so fucking stupid I'm sure you would just fuck it up.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 04:12:37 PM
Because she thinks so? She has no proof either 😂



Was this a Freudian slip? By posting this, you just admitted you have no proof. So then, does this mean that there was election fraud just because you think there was?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 04:13:23 PM
I'm going to jerk off to Liz tonight on my lunch break.  ;D

Don't get caught!  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 04:30:32 PM

Debra Ell, a Republican organizer in Michigan

    “I think I speak for many people in that Trump has never actually been wrong, and so we’ve learned to trust when he says something, that he’s not just going to spew something out there that’s wrong and not verified,” she said, referring to Trump’s claims that widespread electoral fraud caused his loss to President Biden in November.

it's insane isn't it

I've heard many Trumptard say that THE TRAITOR is the only one who tells the truth

WTF ?

Trump is possibly the most prolific liar on the face of the earth

there is simply no cure for stupid
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2021, 04:33:44 PM

Debra Ell, a Republican organizer in Michigan

    “I think I speak for many people in that Trump has never actually been wrong, and so we’ve learned to trust when he says something, that he’s not just going to spew something out there that’s wrong and not verified,” she said, referring to Trump’s claims that widespread electoral fraud caused his loss to President Biden in November.
   
&t=64s   
&t=324s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 04:35:46 PM
it's insane isn't it

I've heard many Trumptard say the THE TRAITOR is the only one who tells the truth

WTF ?

Trump is possibly the most prolific liar on the face of the earth

there is simply no cure for stupid

Trump wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit him in the ass....as it often does.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 03, 2021, 05:01:37 PM
More Republicans have raised concern that Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is distracting the party from the GOP policy agenda and hurting its chance to take back the House majority in 2022.

This idea that you just disregard President [Donald] Trump is not where we are,” Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) said on Friday during an interview with Axios. “And frankly, he has a lot to offer still and has offered a lot. He wants to help us win the House back.”

The House Minority Whip said Cheney’s anti-Trump narrative is sending out the wrong message and giving the public the false impression that the Republican Party is deeply divided.

Scalise said that the GOP is “very unified” on its policy agenda.

“I do think we’ve got to focus on what it’s going to take to get the House back and present conservative alternatives to this far-left socialist movement we’re seeing. Those were the conversations we were having,” the House number two Republican stated. “We were very unified by the way.”

Scalise emphasized that Trump is still a very active and vocal leader of the Republican Party.

“He brought millions of people off the sidelines in 2016 that never voted for Republicans or Democrats who really embraced his message and he delivered for those hardworking and forgotten men and women,” he added.

Scalise’s remarks came after Cheney, the House Republican Conference Chairwoman, continued a pattern of criticizing Trump and downplaying his influence during the annual GOP legislative retreat recently held in Orlando, Florida.

On April 26, Cheney responded to a reporter asking her what role she would like to see the former president take in Republicans’ attempt to regain control of the House and Senate in 2022.

“I think right now, the Republican Party is headed by Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy in the House. I think our elected leaders are the ones who are in charge of the Republican Party,” Cheney said, referring to the Senate and House minority leaders.

McCarthy criticized Cheney’s remarks as a distraction.

If you’re sitting here at a retreat that’s focused on policy, focused on the future of making America next-century, and you’re talking about something else, you’re not being productive,” he told reporters.

However, Cheney refused to walk back her criticism, saying “it matters hugely to the survival of the country.”

More Republicans have since spoken out against Cheney’s public dismissal of Trump, some even question her leadership role in the party.

Her lack of focus on that, while being focused on other things, and proving her point, was an unwelcome distraction,” Rep Jim Banks (R-Ind.) told Axios. “The sort of sideline distractions at the GOP retreat will only serve to hold us back from being focused on that nearly unanimous goal we have as a conference.”

Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas) went further, predicting that Cheney’s leadership role will be terminated before the end of May.

PREDICTION: she’ll be out of her GOP leadership role by month’s end!” he wrote in a Twitter post.

It's refreshing to see a Republican lawmaker not afraid to tell the truth and call Trump out. Of course it's at risk of losing votes but the main problem with our government is the focus on re-election rather than doing whats right so this is great to see. It is a lie. The election was NOT stolen. That is a fact. Time for Republicans to shake off the kool aid and face reality
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 05:32:12 PM
It's refreshing to see a Republican lawmaker not afraid to tell the truth and call Trump out. Of course it's at risk of losing votes but the main problem with our government is the focus on re-election rather than doing whats right so this is great to see. It is a lie. The election was NOT stolen. That is a fact. Time for Republicans to shake off the kool aid and face reality

She’s about as Republican as you, Straw, Prime and Lurker. Like most of the RINO’s she’ll get primaried
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on May 03, 2021, 05:38:04 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/21/pennsylvania-man-charged-with-voter-fraud-for-casting-ballot-for-trump-under-dead-mothers-name/?sh=4c6e018259bf
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 05:43:47 PM
It's refreshing to see a Republican lawmaker not afraid to tell the truth and call Trump out. Of course it's at risk of losing votes but the main problem with our government is the focus on re-election rather than doing whats right so this is great to see. It is a lie. The election was NOT stolen. That is a fact. Time for Republicans to shake off the kool aid and face reality

Kind of ironic that the only person with a pair of testicles in the House GOP is Liz Cheney

Looks like she's doing just fine with the fundraising

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liz-cheney-record-fundraising-haul-gop-feud


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 03, 2021, 05:49:59 PM
Kind of ironic that the only person with a pair of testicles in the House GOP is Liz Cheney

Looks like she's doing just fine with the fundraising

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liz-cheney-record-fundraising-haul-gop-feud (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liz-cheney-record-fundraising-haul-gop-feud)


She's your kind of girl then- still has gonads, lol. You are a fucking twit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 06:04:42 PM

She's your kind of girl then- still has gonads, lol. You are a fucking twit.

You're just jealous because you wish you actually had a pair
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2021, 06:09:19 PM
yes

tell me how I (an individual on an obscure message board)or anyone else on this board is keeping THE TRAITOR in the news

I assume you're aware that we don't write the news so I'm not able to follow your retarded train of thought

you do know that..right?
You do consume and spread any and every negative Trump thing that comes your way, you fucking dolt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 06:12:11 PM
Was this a Freudian slip? By posting this, you just admitted you have no proof. So then, does this mean that there was election fraud just because you think there was?

When I meant “either” I meant you, lurker, straw, Agnostic, etc. keep up
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 06:19:43 PM
You do consume and spread any and every negative Trump thing that comes your way, you fucking dolt.

don't blame the messenger dipshit

it's not my fault that THE TRAITOR has so many negative stories about him

btw - these stories are not "coming my way you fucking idiot

they are available for anyone to find and they are usually the FUCKING HEADLINES

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 03, 2021, 06:21:50 PM
don't blame the messenger dipshit

it's not my fault that THE TRAITOR has so many negative stories about him

btw - these stories are not "coming my way you fucking idiot

they are available for anyone to find and they are usually the FUCKING HEADLINES

Just a hunch but you've never been characterized as passive aggressive, have you?   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 06:26:20 PM
Just a hunch but you've never been characterized as passive aggressive, have you?   ;D

I don't think that would be considered passive aggressive...do you?

I don't see the passive part

I don't have any patience for traitors and idiots who insist the rest of have to believe their fantasies

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2021, 06:30:07 PM
I don't think that would be considered passive aggressive...do you?

I don't see the passive part

I don't have any patience for traitors and idiots who insist the rest of have to believe their fantasies

Got Kovid yet Kunt?  Can't be that "deadly" if a deadbeat twatling such as you never gets it.  Kovid up and Kobe out.   You pathetic communist.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 06:38:10 PM
Got Kovid yet Kunt?  Can't be that "deadly" if a deadbeat twatling such as you never gets it.  Kovid up and Kobe out.   You pathetic communist.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2021, 06:42:31 PM
You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.

You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold. 

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 06:54:08 PM
You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold. 

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold.

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2021, 06:58:13 PM
You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold.

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.

In order to believe in Hell or Angels you’d have to believe in God. You don’t. You’re a Liberal. You just owned yourself again, Karl.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2021, 07:08:47 PM
In order to believe in Hell or Angels you’d have to believe in God. You don’t. You’re a Liberal. You just owned yourself again, Karl.

those aren't my words moron

yet another self owning for you

but then again that's the story of your life isn't it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2021, 07:14:22 PM
In order to believe in Hell or Angels you’d have to believe in God. You don’t. You’re a Liberal. You just owned yourself again, Karl.

I hope there is a Hell because that fucking kunt deserves it.  If it means I go to the same place because I no longer believe then so be it.  I don't think people should be banned from here but this asshole, the whole ass...This strawcuck, he is not a person.  He is more persona non grata.

Paleas Homo est ani struthionem.  I think this dildo loving balloon knot sucking cuck needs a time out.  Shit.  If the mods want to, I offer myself up for a parallel time out.  We can be cell mates without his trying to mate.  Covid up and Kobe out Straw Manlette.  He is a communist sympathizer.

Fuck it.  They should put Prime in there with him for two weeks suspension.  These whole asses despise our Nation.  They deserve derision and to be virtually spat upon.  They deserve to be buttfucked by the homeless of Snortland.  I am serious.  They deserve to get assfucked for days on end by every homeless man and strapon woMan in Sorntland, Oregon.   And let's not forget giving them Heroin.  No, Prime.  That is not the feminine form of "hero" it is the drug your ignorant ass government in Oregon made okie dokie along with Meth.   I would worship the devil if he would Covid up every demoncrat in our Nation and they would all Kobe out.

Coach.  I am serious as a fart attack.  I hope that the Mods see my words and put those two fuckwads and if it please the court, myself in a two week timeout.   I curse Straw and hope it sticks to him like the shit from his grannies depends after he fucks her ass through them.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2021, 07:16:26 PM
those aren't my words moron

yet another self owning for you

but then again that's the story of your life isn't it?


You deserve the Hell that you worship...Anarchy will come for your stretched out bunghole and you will squeal like  the bacon you are.  Kobe.

You made your bed and then shit in it.  You are the very personification of filth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2021, 07:48:11 PM
don't blame the messenger dipshit

it's not my fault that THE TRAITOR has so many negative stories about him

btw - these stories are not "coming my way you fucking idiot

they are available for anyone to find and they are usually the FUCKING HEADLINES
You're a fucking loser and a pathetic excuse for a man. You're obsessed with TRUMP and everything TRUMP does, you're TRUMPS biggest fanboy, you soft ass bitch. :-*
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2021, 07:49:43 PM
Just a hunch but you've never been characterized as passive aggressive, have you?   ;D
He's neither, he's a big mouth running his bitch ass lips on the internet. Guaranteed 100% he's a meek, timid, soft spoken sissy in real life. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2021, 07:59:29 PM
You're a fucking loser and a pathetic excuse for a man. You're obsessed with TRUMP and everything TRUMP does, you're TRUMPS biggest fanboy, you soft ass bitch. :-*

He is a licentious libertine deserving of Hades.  Like I said, put that Straw Cuck, Prime and myself in Purgatory (so that''s what the Catholics did with it) for the next two or three weeks.

Personally, I hope they Covid up and crap out.  Same with my libtard relatives.  Sickass turdles all of them.  They hate success but encourage the faux indigent to suck away at the wang of Biden, aka the US Government.   Crap out is pretty much the same as "Kobe out".  A turd is a turd after all and Kobe  self-flushed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 03, 2021, 08:18:58 PM
I don't think that would be considered passive aggressive...do you?

I don't see the passive part

I don't have any patience for traitors and idiots who insist the rest of have to believe their fantasies

I was being sarcastic as hell.  You don't beat around the bush.  No, you are the anti-passive agressive.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: monsterman500 on May 04, 2021, 03:30:43 AM
those aren't my words moron

yet another self owning for you

but then again that's the story of your life isn't it?
Strawman is inbred. he probably can´t help himself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 06:51:00 AM

You deserve the Hell that you worship...Anarchy will come for your stretched out bunghole and you will squeal like  the bacon you are.  Kobe.

You made your bed and then shit in it.  You are the very personification of filth.
       
                                                        this is off topic but, that's one of the funniest avatars ever.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
Almost 50 pages! 

 :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:26:49 PM
The Damage Trump Did
In 2016, we thought President Trump would be bad for Oregon. He was a catastrophe. (Jack Kent)
By WW Staff |Published October 28, 2020  Updated October 28, 2020
Four years ago, a sickly orange cloud fell over Oregon. Only now can we fully survey the damage done by Hurricane Trump.

Portland greeted the 2016 election of Donald Trump with revulsion. For a week in November, protesters chanted and marched. Opportunists followed in their wake, destroying property.

THEN: In November 2016, Portlanders began marching against President Donald Trump. (Joe Riedl)THEN: In November 2016, Portlanders began marching against President Donald Trump. (Joe Riedl)
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A week after the election, WW said: "Trump's election doesn't just mean a triumph for Republicans at the far right edge of the party. It means that a boor, admitted sexual predator, and racist will occupy the White House. His victory emboldens white nationalists who would make this country great by silencing anyone who doesn't look like them."

In that issue, we attempted what reporters often don't do well: We tried to predict our future under Trump in several specific categories.


Some readers accused us of being alarmist. "I'm not sure I've ever read a more doom-and-gloom, worst-case-scenario article," one reader wrote.

This week, with hopes that the nation will choose a different president, we decided to revisit our forecast. And we must admit: We were wrong about how bad a Trump presidency would be.

It was worse than we imagined.

In short, we lacked a sufficiently dystopian imagination. In particular, we didn't foresee how Trump and his fans would single out liberal Portland as a target for street brawls and federal policing. We did not predict that the president's attention would turn Portland into a scene of violence, and how his inattention would allow a virus to kill our loved ones and shutter our shops and restaurants.

NOW: This summer, city officials removed an iconic elk statue from downtown after itsbase was set on fire by protesters. (Alex Wittwer)NOW: This summer, city officials removed an iconic elk statue from downtown after itsbase was set on fire by protesters. (Alex Wittwer)
To be sure, some things worked out better than we expected. So in the following pages, we look back on most of the predictions we made in 2016. We've graded ourselves on the following scale: Is today's reality better, worse or the same as we expected?


Many of Oregon's problems are of our own making. And the partisan divisions in this state existed long before 2016. (See this story for a look at a part of Oregon where that divide widened.)

But where possible, we've tried to look at how the decisions of this White House specifically affected Oregonians.

It's a useful lens through which to view one of the strangest and most scarring four years in the history of the republic.

—Nigel Jaquiss, Latisha Jensen, Aaron Mesh, Rachel Monahan and Tess Riski

LONG TALE: Activists dressed as handmaids are common sights at Portland get-out-the-vote rallies. (Chris Nesseth)LONG TALE: Activists dressed as handmaids are common sights at Portland get-out-the-vote rallies. (Chris Nesseth)

In 2016, WW said that under Trump, women were unlikely to lose reproductive rights and the U.S. Supreme Court wouldn't overturn Roe v. Wade.

In 2020, the reality is worse.

It took the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in September, but this week Trump delivered what he promised Christian conservatives: A majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices oppose a woman's right to an abortion. Meanwhile, 17 abortion cases in circuit courts of appeals across the country are one step away from reaching the U.S. Supreme Court, according to a Planned Parenthood analysis.

This makes it within the realm of possibility that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, will be overturned in the next few years.

So what does that mean for Oregonians? Abortions will still be legal here, thanks in large part to the Oregon Legislature's 2017 passage of the Reproductive Health Equity Act.

"In Oregon, we are one of the few states without restrictions to access abortion because our state and voters have made it really clear that abortion is health care," says Emily McLain, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Oregon. "It will fall to states like us to be haven states."

Residents of Idaho, where abortion would likely be criminalized should Roe fall, would need to cross the border to Oregon or Washington to access it legally. And some Oregonians, too, will need to travel long distances to access those services. TR.

DREAM ON: Advocates for children who were brought to the U.S. as children rally after the president threatened to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. (Diego Diaz)DREAM ON: Advocates for children who were brought to the U.S. as children rally after the president threatened to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. (Diego Diaz)
In 2016, WW predicted many Mexican immigrants would be deported.

By 2020, that prediction came true—and then some.

We gave this policy the highest likelihood of happening—and it did.

But plenty of undocumented immigrants were deported before Trump's election. In fiscal year 2019, Trump deported 267,258 immigrants, up 14 percent from 2015, the end of the Obama administration, though still 40 percent below the peak year of fiscal year 2012.

What no one expected was how ghoulish immigration policy would become.

Most recently, it has become clear that 545 children who were removed from their parents as they crossed the border may never be reunited.

"Four years ago, I would have absolutely said that no administration would deliberately harm children as a policy strategy," says U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.). "That's something that evil dictators do in faraway lands, not something that would ever happen in the United States of America. How wrong I was."

Carmen Rubio, a Portland city commissioner-elect and executive director of the nonprofit Latino Network, knew that anti-immigrant policies were coming, because Trump had campaigned on the issue, but she too was caught off guard.

"It was the way they confidently stepped over the line of decency and ethics time and time again that was terrifying," says Rubio. "The cruelty which seemed to root all these policies seems bottomless." RM.

In 2016, WW said that Trump would not place Muslims in internment camps, though we predicted a rise in discrimination.

In 2020, it's clear we were mostly right.

Trump issued no executive order enacting internment camps, the way FDR did with Japanese Americans in the 1940s. (The detention centers on the Mexican border strike many observers as effectively concentration camps.) But he did institute what was effectively a Muslim travel ban in 2018.

Trump's policies and rhetoric fanned the flames of racism that have increased since 2016. No incident was more searing for many Portlanders than the MAX stabbings in 2017, when Jeremy Christian verbally harassed two Black teenage girls, one wearing a hijab, about their faith and then killed two men and wounded another who tried to intervene. (One of the teenagers, Walia Mohamed, said during Christian's murder trial in 2020 that she no longer feels safe wearing her hijab in public.)

"I think [Trump] has caused four years of trauma that's going to be hard to overcome," says Zakir Khan, board chair of Oregon's Council on American-Islamic Relations. "Changing a president doesn't stop the trauma of being discriminated against in a store or from a job." TR.


In 2016, WW said that even Trump and his U.S. Department of Justice couldn't outlaw cannabis where it was legal.

In 2020, it appears we were right.

Trump did take a swipe at our weed stash. In 2018, his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, rescinded the Obama-era Cole Memo, which limited the federal prosecution of crimes in states where cannabis is legal.

But as WW reported in 2018, there was no evidence that U.S. Attorney for Oregon Billy Williams had done much with weed other than crack down on Oregon's flower being sold across state lines. All told, 11 states now have legalized recreational use, and 33 legalized medicinal use. Four states—Arizona, Montana, South Dakota and New Jersey—have November ballot measures to legalize recreational use.

Meanwhile, Oregon 3rd District Congressman Earl Blumenauer continues to chip away at legalizing cannabis federally.

"The Trump administration has been no friend. Jeff Sessions at every instance tried to put sand in the gears," Blumenauer says. "But we had a united front that was quite effective We're basically on track to have the most productive four-year period in terms of advancing the cause of eliminating the federal prohibition of cannabis." TR.

In 2016, WW said pay equity and workplace child care were lost causes.

In 2020, the reality is better than we expected.

Here's one example of Oregon pioneering while the nation stalled.

In 2017, Oregon passed a pay equity law, which prohibited employers from asking job applicants about previous compensation and required equal pay for equal work. So, while Trump surrounded himself with Cabinet members and advisers hostile to such policies, Oregon moved forward—although equal pay is still more of a concept than a reality in many workplaces.

As for workplace child care, no one made much progress in the past four years. That's part of why Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has made federally funded universal preschool a key plank in his platform and why Multnomah County placed one of the nation's most aggressive and novel preschool measures on the November ballot. NJ.   the race to 100 is on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:28:13 PM
In 2016, WW said any progress on the Portland Harbor Superfund cleanup would be lost.

In 2020, the reality is better than we expected.

In 2000, the federal Environmental Protection Agency declared parts of the Willamette River in Portland a Superfund site because of the industrial waste that had accumulated on the river bottom. Because more than 100 companies—many no longer in business—as well as the city of Portland and the Port of Portland bore some responsibility, getting responsible parties to agree to a billion-dollar cleanup plan has been like herding catfish.

We expected chaos after Trump, famously averse to environmental regulation, took office. But in fact, some useful compromises were forged. The EPA finally released a cleanup plan the month Trump took office, and the agency has now gotten many of the largest actors to agree to pay their share. It did, however, in 2019, downgrade the toxicity of one of the chemicals found on the river bottom, which will save companies $35 million in dredging costs. NJ.

VIRAL PHOTO: A drive-thru COVID-19testing site in North Portland. (Brian Burk)VIRAL PHOTO: A drive-thru COVID-19testing site in North Portland. (Brian Burk)
In 2016, WW said federal agencies would still respond to a natural disaster in Oregon.

In 2020, no one did.

In 2016, we wondered what the Federal Emergency Management Agency would do in the aftermath of a Cascadian megaquake. Would the president withhold aid as retribution to a state that had supported Hillary Clinton? We said that was unlikely because of faith—perhaps naive faith—that even under Trump the rules of politics forbade abandoning a large swath of the country.

Of course, the Big One did not hit in the past four years, but with 225,000 Americans dead, a similar disaster unfolded that Trump failed to address because of his incompetent, overly political response.

COVID-19 behaved like an earthquake the president could pretend didn't happen. He publicly denied the threat of the virus, dismissed mask-wearing, and settled on a "response" of just letting the virus infect more Americans. If enacted in a second term, his plan would kill millions.

Oregon was left to its own devices to set policy, with decent if not extraordinary results.

"Clearly, there have been major shortcomings with the Trump administration's lack of a coherent federal strategy to address the COVID-19 pandemic," says Charles Boyle, a spokesman for Gov. Kate Brown. "And the politically charged statements the president has made on everything from wearing masks to white supremacist groups has caused irreparable harm."

Four years ago, Steve Novick, then the city commissioner in charge of emergency preparedness, predicted incompetence from Trump's FEMA rivaling former President George W. Bush's bungled response to Hurricane Katrina. He was right.

"I certainly stand by my statement that this administration is at least as incompetent as 'heckuva job, Brownie'—although in this case it really seems that the incompetence flows directly from the top," Novick says now. "There have been competent people in the government trying to deal with the pandemic, but Trump only listens to crazy people like [Dr. Scott] Atlas." RM.

Providence Portland Medical Center and Interstate 84. (Henry Cromett)Providence Portland Medical Center and Interstate 84. (Henry Cromett)
In 2016, WW said thousands of Oregonians would lose their health insurance with the elimination of Obamacare.

In 2020, it hasn't happened—yet.

In 2016, the prospect of tens or hundreds of thousands of Oregonians losing health insurance seemed a real possibility, considering Trump wanted to get rid of Obamacare.

But early on, there were clues that Trump didn't really have the attention span, policy chops or legal team required to destroy his predecessor's signature domestic policy achievement. "Nobody knew health care was so complicated," Trump said on Feb. 27, 2017, less than two months after taking office.

Multiple efforts to repeal the law in Congress failed during Trump's tenure, most famously in 2017, when terminally ill U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) crossed the aisle to cast the deciding vote against repeal. Bottom line, says Allyson Hagen, who tracks data for the Oregon Health Authority: no loss. "Coverage has remained fairly stable," Hagen says.

But that could change the week after the election, when the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear another argument for repeal with Trump's newest appointee, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, sitting on the court. NJ.

ALL SMILES: Gordon Sondland testifies to Congress on Nov. 20, 2019.ALL SMILES: Gordon Sondland testifies to Congress on Nov. 20, 2019.
In 2016, we said Trump would award Oregon's top federal legal jobs to far right-wingers and Oregon would lose all influence in Washington, D.C.

In 2020, the reality is better than we expected.

In Oregon, Trump made only one serious effort to put a strident conservative on the federal bench, and it didn't work. Trump nominated a former protégé of U.S. Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), Assistant U.S. Attorney for Oregon Ryan Bounds, to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, the nation's most liberal appellate panel. But a national advocacy group dug up inflammatory op-eds Bounds wrote as an undergraduate, scuttling his nomination. (Former Washington County Circuit Judge Danielle Hunsaker got the job instead.)

Trump left U.S. Attorney for Oregon Billy Williams, an Obama holdover, in place, and the one judge he named to the U.S. District Court of Oregon, Karin Immergut, is a moderate. "We lucked out," says Beth Bernard, executive director of the Oregon Trial Lawyers Association. "We got people who put fairness ahead of politics, and that's not what we've seen in the rest of the country."

It's true that Oregon's largely Democratic congressional delegation has been sidelined for much of the Trump era, which doesn't put the state in a good position to score federal pork. And Trump's unpopularity arguably cost Republicans control of the House in 2018, leading to the retirement of Rep. Walden, the only Republican in the state's congressional delegation and one of the senior members of his conference. "I think he retired because he thought they'd be in the minority for a while," says GOP political consultant Jim Pasero.

We'd be remiss not to mention Gordon Sondland, the Portland hotelier whose companies quietly contributed $1 million to Trump's inauguration. He became very influential—with the House committee that tried to impeach the president.

Trump named Sondland ambassador to the European Union, where, according to former national security adviser John Bolton and others, Sondland tried to insert himself into Trump's dealings with Ukraine and later told Congress there was indeed a quid pro quo. "Everybody was in the loop," Sondland testified. "There was no secret."

Trump survived the Portlander's testimony. NJ.

(Brian Burk)(Brian Burk)
In 2016, WW said new light rail projects would be scrapped for decades.

In 2020, the reality is better than we expected.

Mass transit, including trains, is not a priority of the Trump administration. Despite that, major projects around the country have moved forward in the past four years and the feds propose to put more than $4 billion into four new projects next year. Among those: two projects in Washington state, where Trump lost by a bigger margin in 2016 than he did in Oregon.

TriMet, in fact, remains confident that if voters pass Measure 26-218 and provide seed funding for a new light rail line between Portland and Tigard, the feds will kick in $1.3 billion—and perhaps more. "We have shared with the [Federal Transit Administration] that TriMet intends to request a minimum of $1.3 billion, and we believe that amount is feasible," says TriMet spokeswoman Roberta Allstadt. "It is possible that a higher amount could be pursued if Congress moves forward with an infrastructure package and/or the funding for the program increases." NJ.

NEVER TWEET: Nicholas Kristof, two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, takes a social media break during Portland protests. (Alex Wittwer)NEVER TWEET: Nicholas Kristof, two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, takes a social media break during Portland protests. (Alex Wittwer)
In 2016, we said freedom of the press would wither.

In 2020, we admit we misunderstood the threat.

Our worry in 2016 was that Trump would seek to throttle his longtime nemeses—newspapers—by encouraging court restrictions on a free press. In particular, we feared he would (using his words) "open up the libel laws" to allow powerful people to sue their critics and watchdogs out of business.

Flat out: We guessed poorly. Trump not only failed to narrow press freedoms, he didn't even try. Arguably, his overall impact on the media was neutral: He yelled "Fake news!" at the TV reporters in the press pen at his rallies, but he also increased their ratings. Maybe he wanted that result. Clowns need a circus.

However, there's no question the press is in worse condition now than it was four years ago. It's just that the real threats to journalism were digital behemoths like Facebook and Google, and a crumbling business model further ravaged by COVID-19. Trump got the media landscape he wanted, even if he didn't act to create it: Many citizens get their news directly from the president and his toadies, and rarely encounter a newspaper headline. In 2018, the Washington Monthly reported that Trump has more followers on Twitter—53 million—than there are digital subscriptions to all American newspapers combined. AM.

BUSTED: Burgerville union workers and ally go on strike at the Montavilla Burgerville in 2019.BUSTED: Burgerville union workers and ally go on strike at the Montavilla Burgerville in 2019.
In 2016, WW said organized labor would be gutted by right-to-work laws.

In 2020, the reality is much as we predicted.

In June 2018, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Janus v. AFSCME that union members could not be compelled to pay dues. That 5-4 decision probably happened because Justice Neil Gorsuch, Trump's first appointee, joined the court rather than Obama's last appointee, Merrick Garland.

For foes of organized labor, such as the Oregon-based Freedom Foundation, the court ruling was decades in the making. Jason Dudash, director of Freedom Foundation, says 18,000 Oregon union members have stopped paying dues since the decision. "Oregon has seen some of the most dramatic losses in union membership in the entire country," Dudash says. Among those who've taken hits: the Oregon School Employees Association, the American Federation of Teachers and Service Employees International Union.

SEIU Local 503 executive director Melissa Unger, who leads the state's largest union, acknowledges many SEIU members stopped paying dues. But she says Dudash's numbers tell only part of the story. Unger says the union has actually grown substantially during Trump's tenure, mostly through new home-care members. "We are a much bigger union today," she says. Most the departures came right after Janus, Unger says."The Freedom Forum wants to say we're a dying breed," she says. "That's definitely not true." NJ.

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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:29:12 PM
In 2016, we said Trump would reverse efforts to halt climate change.

In 2020, he has.

Of the many bleak consequences of Trump's presidency, this one is perhaps the most crushing to contemplate.

The planet, like the reporters writing this story, is up against a hard deadline: Cut carbon emissions in half by 2030 or watch much of the globe become uninhabitable. By some estimates, we already blew that chance: The effects of a rapidly warming planet are underway, and the best we can hope for is suffering rather than extinction.

In September, a climate research firm estimated Trump's rollbacks of Obama's climate regulations will result in an additional 1.8 billion tons of carbon emissions pumped into the atmosphere in the next 15 years. Other choices can be reversed. This one can't.

And so Oregon is reaping the whirlwind: weeks on end of unbreathable air, filled with ash from forests turned to kindling. Local attempts to address the problem brought state government to a halt, as Republicans refused to cooperate with bills reducing carbon emissions.

Some activists have simply turned to the task of helping people deal with the inevitable disasters. In 2018, Portland voters passed a Clean Energy Fund to help low-income people of color weatherize their homes to save energy and handle extreme temperatures. Earlier this year, fund champion Oriana Magnera described success: "Having lower energy bills, building resiliency and helping folks stay in their homes." AM.

Nike campus. (Wesley Lapointe)Nike campus. (Wesley Lapointe)
In 2016, WW said Nike would be hampered by trade restrictions.

In 2020, the reality is better than we expected.

Although Trump followed through on threats to place tariffs on Chinese imports, this concern fizzled completely. Nike had already shifted major operations to Vietnam and also sold a lot of product in China—so the amount of Chinese-made goods the company brought to the U.S. was modest. Meanwhile, online sales boomed everywhere, and the sportswear giant saw its revenues grow steadily through Trump's tenure. And like other big corporations, Nike enjoyed a hefty tax cut in 2017, when Trump slashed the top corporate rate from 35% to 21%.

As for the indicator that would matter most to the president, who is famously fixated on stock prices, Nike's shares have risen from about $50 when Trump was elected to about $130 today. "The athletic footwear and apparel markets have been very strong over the last four years," says Matt Powell, a longtime industry analyst at the NPD Group. NJ.

In 2016, we said LGBTQ+ rights would be rolled back and violence against women would spike.

In 2020, it turns out we were right.

President Trump governed as he campaigned. For LGBTQ+ people, that's meant the erasure of their rights.

On his first day in office, his administration erased mentions of LGBTQ+ people from government websites. The White House has banned transgender people from enlisting in the military, allowed health care facilities to deny care based on religious beliefs about gender, and refused to allow LGBTQ people to identify their demographic in the 2020 census.

Kieran Chase, manager of the transgender justice program at Basic Rights Oregon, says LGBTQ people are making decisions to get married and file for adoption now, in fear the new Trump-appointed Supreme Court will roll back more victories.

"There are people taking quiet preparatory steps because they don't know what the future is going to look like," says Chase. "The Trump administration has been holistically antagonistic to the LGBTQ community in a way that's frightening."

Trump's tenure was also marked by a sneering disrespect for women. He mocked Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. His often-bewildered secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, succeeded in rolling back Obama-era protections for college sexual assault survivors.

But Rosemary Brewer, executive director of the Oregon Crime Victims Law Center, says one of the most damaging impacts of the Trump administration is what he hasn't done: renew the expired Violence Against Women Act, which provides funding for thousands of organizations.

"A lot of organizations only exist because of government funding. All these victims in Oregon are going to lose out on critical services," Brewer says. "There's clearly a lack of respect for an entire gender that the president shows. It doesn't feel good as a woman that our president doesn't respect women." LJ.

NOT OK: Right-wing protesters have appeared this year in North Portland.NOT OK: Right-wing protesters have appeared this year in North Portland.
In 2016, we said white supremacist groups would flourish.

In 2020, they're flourishing.

In 2016, we had no way of predicting Trump would summon a goon squad of Fred Perry-wearing brawlers who would target Portland for regular fistfights with the locals. Still, we got the gist of it correct: Nationalists, especially those who despise people of color, would be emboldened.

Eric Ward, executive director of Western States Center, a nonprofit that tracks extremism, says Trump performed as he expected.

"What frightens me more is not what Trump is doing, but lack of vigorous response from state and local governments and business leaders," Ward says. "That's what's much more disturbing and surprising to me."

Ward points to three ways white extremist groups gained traction in Oregon through Trump's administration: They've achieved visibility and credibility, making them feel empowered; Trump's rhetoric created a space for belief that political violence is acceptable; and white nationalist groups appear to have cemented intimate connections with law enforcement.

After Election Day, hate crimes spiked. And the Southern Poverty Law Center reported the number of U.S. hate groups increased by 30%.

(Sam Gehrke)(Sam Gehrke)
In this region, extremist groups, such as Patriot Prayer, founded by Joey Gibson in Vancouver, Wash., in 2016, and the Proud Boys, which have three Oregon chapters, gained traction.

Ward says Trump's administration targeted the rights of people of color, the LGBTQ community, and women through budget policy executive orders and rhetoric. All of those gestures signaled to the far right it was OK to go after these marginalized groups.

Even if Joe Biden wins, Trump's followers, such as those who allegedly plotted the kidnapping of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, will not go quietly into the night.

"When paramilitary say they will use violence, we should believe them," Ward says. "When these paramilitary groups say they believe civil war is coming, we should believe that that is what they will be attempting to do. We have to be smart enough to know there will be folks there to intimidate us." LJ.

ON THE WATERFRONT: Shipping containers on Swan Island. (Brian Burk)ON THE WATERFRONT: Shipping containers on Swan Island. (Brian Burk)
In 2016, WW said that the Columbia River could become a freeway for fossil fuels.

In 2020, it appears we were half-right.

Oregon doesn't produce fossil fuels, but the companies that mine coal in Wyoming and pump crude oil in North Dakota and Canada were hoping the Trump administration would turn the Columbia River and adjacent rail lines into a giant energy export facility.

Results have been mixed. Washington regulators blocked both what was supposed to be the largest coal export facility in the U.S. at Longview, Wash., and a huge crude oil export terminal at Vancouver.

But crude oil trains continued to roll along both sides of the Columbia to terminals in the region.

During Trump's tenure, U.S. crude oil production increased significantly and state figures show the volumes shipped to Oregon increased 250 percent from 2016 to 2019, to 24,639 rail cars.

Columbia Riverkeeper executive director Brett VandenHeuvel says Trump succeeded in placing energy industry lobbyists or supporters in key federal regulatory positions, but adds that opposition in the courts and by state regulators has staved off major threats. "There's been an all-out assault on the climate and our environment by the federal government for the past four years," VandenHeuvel says. "Its been one problem after another. Fortunately, in Oregon, we've been able to push back on a lot of the worst projects by challenging them in court or pushing local and state officials to deny permits. There's been real important contributions to pick up the slack." NJ.

QUASHING AN UPRISING: Portland protesters of police violence were met by federal agents deployed by Trump. (Kody Whittiker)QUASHING AN UPRISING: Portland protesters of police violence were met by federal agents deployed by Trump. (Kody Whittiker)
In 2016, we said the Portland Police Bureau's settlement with the U.S. Department of Justice would be gutted.

In 2020, the reality is worse than we thought.

Policing in Portland turned out to be of far more interest to President Trump than we ever could have imagined.

The feds were monitoring Portland police already—to make sure they were complying with a 2014 settlement to correct a "pattern or practice of using excessive force" against people with mental illness. Observers say the White House and its Department of Justice haven't paid much attention to that.

"I think DOJ has been largely hands off since the Trump administration took office," says J. Ashlee Albies, a Portland attorney representing the Albina Ministerial Alliance Coalition for Justice and Police Reform in the settlement agreement. "I don't see tremendous outcome changes."

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:30:29 PM
What Trump has cared about is Portlanders protesting (and sometimes rioting) against police brutality. He deployed hundreds of federal officers to Portland this summer, some of whom yanked demonstrators off the street in unmarked vans. He used Portland as a testing ground for how he might quash civil unrest nationwide.

Even though Trump cares only about a show of strength, the protests this summer also matter because they grew out of years of broken promises to Portlanders that policing would change. Instead, Portland police continue to fatally shoot people with mental illness. Between 2015 and 2019, the Portland Police Bureau shot and killed six people who were in mental health crises, according to The Washington Post's police shooting database.

Juan Chavez is a lawyer with the Oregon Justice Resource Center who has closely followed the agreement for years. "It didn't even need to gut itself. This wasn't a tree that was going to flower," Chavez says. "The only metric that we can really hold ourselves to is, has the life of people experiencing mental illness as it relates to how they interact with PPB improved? And it hasn't." TR.

We’d like to tell you everything will work out. But we have doubts. (Alex Wittwer)We’d like to tell you everything will work out. But we have doubts. (Alex Wittwer)
In 2016, WW said gun control might be abandoned, and gun violence might increase.

In 2020, the reality is about as we expected.

WW predicted correctly that the only hope for gun control legislation was on the state level. Oregon lawmakers delivered, yet gun violence has not abated.

In 2017, the Oregon Legislature passed Senate Bill 941 with bipartisan support. The bill was effectively a "red flag law," based on the principle that people who want to harm themselves or others with firearms tend to show signs beforehand, i.e., "red flags." The law allows family members or law enforcement to petition the court for an "extreme risk protection order" to temporarily restrict a person's access to firearms. It also revokes a gun license if that person currently has one. The petition is usually granted within 24 hours.

Oregon Public Broadcasting reported that between Jan. 1, 2018, when the law went into effect, and Oct. 31, 2019, 166 petitions for extreme risk protection orders were filed. Judges granted 122 of those and denied 44. The majority of petitions filed were for people at risk of suicide.

That's the good news. The bad news? Gun violence in Portland reached a historic peak this summer, with 103 instances of gun violence in July, 121 in August, and 118 in September (a 243% increase from 32 shootings in September 2019), according to data from the Portland Police Bureau. The reason behind the spike in shootings is unclear, though the mayor's office told KGW-TV it may be related to "economic conditions and COVID-19." TR.

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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
DONALD TRUMP, A RETROSPECTIVE: A LOOK BACK AT THE 1,462 WORST DAYS IN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY
Let us never forget all the ways, big and small, that Trump was the worst president ever.

BY BESS LEVIN

JANUARY 20, 2021
U.S. President Donald Trump left speaks to members of the media next to U.S. First Lady Melania Trump before boarding...
BY AL DRAGO/BLOOMBERG VIA GETTY IMAGES.
By Wednesday afternoon, January 20, 2021, Donald Trump will be 992 miles from the White House, ensconced at his Palm Beach resort where his neighbors hate his guts. Joe Biden will have taken the oath of office and Americans will no longer have to worry about the possibility that the president of the United States is a crook, or trying to get them killed, or a friend of neo-Nazis, or an ugly racist, or paying off porn stars, or putting his idiot children in charge of national emergencies, or hiring a dog breeder to head up a coronavirus task force. Oh, did you forget about that last one? Or about the time the Trump administration threatened to economically cripple Ecuador for promoting breastfeeding? Or when Trump went on an unhinged rant in front of 35,000 children? Or when he hired an acting Attorney General who worked for a company that marketed “masculine toilets”? It’s understandable that, with all the impeachment and extortion and coronavirus and sedition, you might have forgotten. But as a reminder, and so grade school students hundreds of years from now are told, here’s a look back at the the worst president in American history, through the headlines.

Investors Panic as Trump Begins Doing All the Crazy Things He Said He’d Do

January 31, 2017

During the period between the 2016 election and the inauguration, Wall Street investors, a portion of whom were appropriately shocked and terrified by Donald Trump being elected, comforted themselves with the hope that the reality-TV show host probably wouldn’t end up doing all the crazy, racist shit he talked about on the campaign trail, and would merely stick to cutting their taxes and running the country like a businessman. Of course, that notion turned out to be horribly misplaced and extremely stupid. To prove it, Trump spent his first Monday in office claiming 3 to 5 million illegal ballots cost him the popular vote; his first Wednesday signing an executive order to start construction on the wall (and insisting Mexico would reimburse the U.S. for the cost); and for his big finish on Friday, banning travel from seven majority-Muslim nations. Turns out we were supposed to take him literally!

Trump’s Sons Insist “Papa Bear” Is Conflict-of-Interest Proof

February 13, 2017

Some people might have been uncomfortable with the sight of the president of the United States hosting the prime minister of another country at his for-profit Palm Beach resort, as Trump did the second weekend in February 2017, but the president’s big-boy adult sons were not among them. To The New York Times, Eric Trump dismissed the question of whether or not Trump charged Japan for Shinzo Abe to stay at Mar-a-Lago when the White House would’ve been free as meaningless, while an incensed Don Jr., practically shrieking, flew off the handle when asked about the prospect that his father was using the presidency to line the Trump family’s pockets. “Who in their right mind would try to enrich themselves by spending a fortune to run against 17 seasoned politicians on the Republican side, to then go up against the Clinton machine, Wall Street, Hollywood, P.C. culture?” Don Jr. asked. “To use that as the way to enrich yourself is laughable.” This would be several years before we learned Mar-a-Lago charged taxpayers for the glasses of water Trump drank while at the club.

Trump Was Set to Kill NAFTA Until an Adviser Showed Him a Map

April 28, 2017

He still ended up killing NAFTA, but he briefly kept it going after his Agriculture Secretary “brought along a prop to the Oval Office” displaying the parts of the country that would be hardest hit by the move and highlighting that many of them had voted for him in November. “It shows that I do have a very big farmer base, which is good,” Trump told The Washington Post. “They like Trump, but I like them, and I’m going to help them.” (He would end up f--king them in other ways.)

Trump Thinks He Invented a Phrase That’s Been Used Since 1932

May 11, 2017

It was on this day in history that we learned the 45th president claimed to have invented the phrase “prime the pump.”

Trump Drops the Mic on Train Wreck NATO Meeting by Calling Germans “Very Evil”

May 25, 2017

During his first big trip abroad, and his first NATO meeting, Trump shamelessly shoved Montenegro’s prime minister out of the way so he could be front and center for a group photo; accused fellow members of the alliance of not paying their bills; and proclaimed “The Germans are evil, very evil.” It is truly a wonder that when he lost his bid for reelection, other countries celebrated “like we defeated the mothership in Independence Day.”

Trump Tells Local Iowans Why He Prefers the Rich

June 22, 2017

During a campaign-style rally in Cedar Falls, Iowa, to discuss agriculture and vocational training for farmers, Trump decided to get frank about his decision to exclusively fill his Cabinet with cartoonishly rich robber baron-types. “Somebody said, ‘Why did you appoint a rich person to be in charge of the economy?’” he told the crowd. And he explained, “‘Because that’s the kind of thinking we want. I love all people. Rich or poor. But in those particular positions, I just don’t want a poor person. Does that make sense?‘”

His Presidency in Crisis, Trump Takes a Break to Play Fireman

July 17, 2017

Things were not going so well for Trump on this July day in 2017—questions surrounding his campaign’s attempt to team up with the Russian government during the 2016 election had reached a fever pitch—but there was one bright spot in his world: the White House’s “Made in America Week,” which gave the leader of the free world the opportunity to pretend to be a cowboy, a baseball player, and a fireman.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/887094229717012482

This experience came only second to the time he got to sit in a big rig and pretend to be a truck driver.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/845242368882327553

Trump Goes on Unhinged Rant in Front of Thousands of Children

July 25, 2017

In late July 2017, Trump treated tens of thousands of Boy Scouts to a 35-minute campaign rally-style screed that touched on everything from killing Obamacare to musing about firing a member of his Cabinet. He also hyped up the stock market and went on an extended aside about all the really hot parties he was invited to in the 1980s. He later claimed that the head of the Boy Scouts called him to say “it was the greatest speech that was ever made,” a call that a spokesperson for the group said never happened.

Trump Manages to Say Another Cringeworthy Thing About Charlottesville

September 14, 2017

Maybe you thought it couldn’t get much worse than refusing to condemn neo-Nazis and claiming there were “very fine people on both sides”—then Trump made up a story about “a lot of people” saying “Gee, Trump might have had a point.”

Trump Tells Puerto Ricans Their Hurricane Wasn’t “a Real Catastrophe Like Katrina”

October 3, 2017

After saying nothing about the humanitarian disaster wrought by Hurricane Maria for days, only to attack the mayor of San Juan via Twitter, the president made it down to Puerto Rico. There, he complained that the territory, which had been without electricity and water for days, was costing him a lot of money. Later, he said that Maria wasn’t a “real catastrophe like Katrina” and then tossed paper towels into the crowd like it was Friday night at Madison Square Garden and he was shooting T-shirts into the stands with an air cannon. The following September, he claimed the 3,000-person death count was a Democratic hoax to make him look bad.


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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:33:33 PM

Trump Gives Himself a “10 Out of 10” on Puerto Rico Recovery

October 19, 2017

Yes, he did (at the time 28% of residents didn’t have potable water and 78% of the island didn’t have power).

Trump Can’t Believe No One’s Thrown a Parade in His Honor

December 20, 2017

Can you? Honestly, with everything he’d done for the country, this was the thanks he got? In this particular instance, Trump was reportedly “ranting and raving” that his tax bill—the one that slashed the corporate rate and effectively did jack shit for the middle class—wasn’t being touted “as the biggest accomplishment of any president” in the history of the United States. Where were the monuments in his honor? Where were the ticker-tape parades?? (In the end, Trump’s tax cuts resulted in, drum roll please…one cent bonuses for workers. But did anyone send him a personal thank-you letter or petition to have the Lincoln Memorial replaced with a statue of Trump based on this? Nooooo.)

Trump Is the “Least Racist” Person Ever, Insists His Shortest-Tenured Employee

January 12, 2018

Anthony Scaramucci, late of being fired from the White House after 11 days, made this claim after Trump reportedly asked advisers why he had to let immigrants from “shithole countries” in Africa and Haiti come to the U.S. “.@potus is not a racist,” the Mooch tweeted. “He is far from it. Perhaps the least racist.” But of course, he was and is racist, and we know this because of all the racist stuff he’d done previously like:

Allegedly claiming that 15,000 Haitians who had obtained visas to live in the U.S. “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerian visa holders would never “go back to their huts”
Kicking off his candidacy for president by calling Mexicans “drug dealers,” “rapists,” and “criminals”
Calling white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and members of the KKK “some very fine people”
Asking a Black reporter to set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus, because he apparently thinks all Black people are friends
Describing minority communities as “ghettos” where “gangs [roam] the streets”
Calling for the execution of the five Black, wrongfully accused teenagers
Spending a good portion of “executive time” targeting Black athletes and retweeting anti-Muslim hate videos from white nationalist accounts
Spending half a decade spreading a conspiracy theory that America’s first Black president was not born in the United States\
Legendary Legal Mind Rudy Giuliani Comes Out of Semi-Retirement to Save Donald Trump

April 19, 2018

With Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia kicking into high-gear, and Trump losing attorneys by the hour, the president decided his best bet was to contract the legal services of the former mayor of New York City. It did not go well.

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Trump’s Prayer-Day Benediction: Paying Off Porn Stars Totally Normal for “People of Wealth”

May 3, 2018

On the National Day of Prayer—a day of observance designated by Congress when people are asked to “turn to God in prayer and meditation”—Trump took to Twitter to explain that while it may have looked bad that his personal attorney paid off porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about an alleged affair he swore never happened, it was actually pretty standard for people in his tax bracket. “Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA,” the president of the United States wrote. “These agreements are very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case, it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels). The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair. Prior to its violation by Ms. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement. Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll [sic] in this transaction.”

Trump’s Limo Driver of 25 Years Confirms He’s an Unrepentant Asshole

July 9, 2018

All of America now knows what it’s like to be Trump’s chauffeur.

The White House Threatened to Economically Cripple Ecuador for Promoting Breastfeeding

July 9, 2018

What the fuck was this—which you might have missed among all the other corruption and batshittery from Team Trump—about? Oh nothing, the Trump administration just didn’t want to upset Big Formula, and flew off the handle over an anodyne resolution introduced by Ecuador encouraging breastfeeding, having “embrac[ed] the interests of infant formula manufacturers.” After Ecuador wouldn’t comply with the U.S.’s demand that language asking governments to “restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children” be removed, U.S. officials reportedly threatened to “unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid.” Ultimately, Russia stepped in to introduce the measure—and, naturally, was not threatened with sanctions.

Trump Casually Suggests He Could Blackmail a U.S. Senator but Will Save It for His Next Book

October 1, 2018

During a press conference in the Rose Garden, the topic of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh came up. Asked if he would empower the FBI to widen its investigation into allegations against the judge, Trump initially responded that “the FBI should interview anybody that they want within reason.” Then he added that if Kavanaugh was really guilty, the accusations would have come up years ago and it’s really unfair that people were “going back to high school and…saying he drank a lot one evening” (they actually said he spent most of high school and college blackout drunk and engaged in sexual assault). Then the president told the press he had much worse dirt on an unnamed Democratic congressman that he’d maybe have to air if Democrats didn’t lay off his nominee. “I happen to know some United States senators,” Trump said, “one who is on the other side, who is pretty aggressive. I’ve seen that person in very bad situations. Okay? I’ve seen that person in very, very bad situations. Somewhat compromising. And you know, I think it’s very unfair to bring up things like this.” Asked who this senator was, the leader of the free world responded: “I think I’ll save it for a book like everybody else.”

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:35:21 PM

Trump Endorses Violent Assault Against Reporters

October 19, 2018

Trump: “I don’t condone violence.”

Also Trump:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1053097692098904064

Trump’s New A.G. Worked for Scam Firm That Threatened Victims With Krav Maga–Style Beatdowns

November 8, 2018

After Trump shoved Jeff Sessions out the door for recusing himself from the Russia probe, Trump appointed an interim attorney general named Matthew Whitaker. Continuing in Trump’s grand tradition of only hiring “the best” people, Whitaker’s previous work experience included serving on the advisory board of a company called World Patent Marketing, which bilked inventors out of millions they believed were going toward patents and licensing deals and was shut down by the Federal Trade Commission. Perhaps more importantly, WPM, for which Whitaker also appeared in promotional videos and photos, “cultivate[d] a threatening atmosphere” in which customers were sent emails warning them that they would be visited by a “security team” of “ex-Israeli Special Ops…trained in Krav Maga, one of the most deadly of the martial arts,” comprised of “the kind of guys who are trained to knockout first and ask questions later.” Oh, and one of the products the company marketed was a “masculine toilet,” which was specially designed for “well-endowed men” hoping to avoid unwanted contact with porcelain or water. WPM, which reportedly paid Whitaker $9,375 in advisory fees between 2014 and 2016 and owed him $7,500 more at the time the FTC got involved, said in its marketing material that “The average male genitalia is between 5” and 6.” However, this invention is designed for those of us who measure longer than that.”

President Bone Spurs Thinks He Would’ve Caught Bin Laden Faster Than Navy Seals

November 19, 2018

On November 19, 2018, after attacking retired Adm. William H. McRaven, who oversaw the capture of Saddam Hussein and the killing of Osama bin Laden during his near-40 years in the U.S. military, Trump had this exchange with Fox’s Chris Wallace:

Trump: “Wouldn’t it have been nice if we got Osama Bin Laden a lot sooner than that, wouldn’t it have been nice? You know, living—think of this—living in Pakistan, beautifully in Pakistan in what I guess they considered a nice mansion, I don’t know, I’ve seen nicer. But living in Pakistan right next to the military academy, everybody in Pakistan knew he was there.

Wallace: “You’re not even going to give them credit…for taking down bin Laden?”

Trump: “They took him down but—look, look, there’s news right there, he lived in Pakistan, we’re supporting Pakistan, we’re giving them $1.3 billion a year, which we don’t give them anymore, by the way, I ended it because they don’t do anything for us, they don’t do a damn thing for us.”

Trump to America: Aren’t You Glad We Let The Saudis Kill That Guy?

November 21, 2018

Days after the CIA concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Trump tweeted that it was totally worth letting the guy get away with it because of the cheap oil prices we got in return.

Trump: I’m Thankful for Myself

November 23, 2018

The day after Thanksgiving 2018, Trump was asked by reporters what he was thankful for that year. To which he responded: “[I’m thankful]…for having made a tremendous difference in this country. I’ve made a tremendous difference in the country. This country is so much stronger now than it was when I took office that you wouldn’t believe it. I mean, you see, but so much stronger people can’t even believe it. When I see foreign leaders they say we cannot believe the difference in strength between the United States now and the United States two years ago.” To date, he had:


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Eased restrictions on loan sharks;
Passed gigantic, regressive tax cuts designed to allow CEOs and shareholders to pay a lower rate on their passive income than workers did on their wages;
Exploded the deficit
Sabotaged Obamacare
Put a man on the Supreme Court who claimed accusations of sexual assault against him were engineered as “revenge on behalf of the Clintons,” and another who said it should be legal to fire a trucker for abandoning his broken-down truck to get help rather than freezing to death;
Alienated foreign allies while cozying up to murderous autocrats;
Dragged the U.S. into a self-defeating trade war with China that caused layoffs and losses at American companies and was paid for by American taxpayers
Used the armed forces for a $200 million election stunt;
Proposed a plan to let coal plants regulate themselves that would kill up to 1,400 Americans annually;
Presided over a 17% rise in hate crimes in the year prior, including a 37% increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes;
Let Puerto Rico implode and smeared its dead
Ceded any moral high ground whatsoever when it came to condemning human rights abuses—not that he’d ever do anything like that—by letting his Saudi pals get away with killing a U.S. resident\

Government Tells Furloughed Workers to Unclog Toilets for Rent as Trump Rants and Raves Over Border

December 28, 2018

In December 2018, presidential man-child Donald Trump shut down the government for 35 days because lawmakers wouldn’t give him $5 billion for his wall. In that time, some 800,000 federal workers went unpaid, leaving those living paycheck to paycheck with very real concerns about having money for food and housing. So the Trump administration came up with some suggestions, which included but were not limited to trading janitorial services for rent; taking out a loan; and approaching the whole thing like an (unpaid) vacation.

Jared Kushner: Blackmail and Witness Tampering Are “Family Matters”

January 15, 2019

To understand why the Trump administration was such an epic disaster, you need to know that Trump handled the transition “more or less by himself,” and having no relevant experience whatsoever, did an extremely bad job. It didn’t have to be this way, though—Chris Christie, a comparatively competent manager who had served as both a federal prosecutor and in an executive role, was originally handling the whole thing, but apparently Jared Kushner convinced Trump to fire him. And, according to Christie, Kushner did that because years prior, Christie had prosecuted Kushner’s dad for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. The witness tampering charge, to which Charles Kushner pleaded guilty, particularly rankled young Jared because even though Kushner the Elder admitted to retaliating against his sister’s husband, William Schulder, who was cooperating with the feds, by hiring a sex worker to seduce him, filming the encounter, and sending the tape to his sister, Kushner thought such things were “family matter, matter to be handled by the family or the rabbis.” And then America got to pay for this unique interpretation of the law!


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Trump Can’t Stop, Won’t Stop, Taking Dictators’ Words for It

February 28, 2019

The president loved to side with authoritarians over his own intelligence agencies. In this case, he told reporters that while everyone else believed North Korea was responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier—the American student imprisoned in the country for more than a year who died days after being sent back to the U.S. with brain damage—he spoke to Kim Jong Un about it and decided the brutal dictator didn’t deserve any of the blame. “He felt badly about it,” Trump said of the world’s foremost human rights abusers, who has also had members of his own family killed. Trump’s comments didn’t go over great Stateside, but of course, this wasn’t the first time he sided with a maniacal despot over officials from his own country. The previous July, he told reporters in Helsinki that he believed Vladimir Putin when the Russian president said the Kremlin did not interfere in the 2016 election, and several months later he explained that while it certainly looked like Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had ordered the killing of U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi via bone saw, he’d spoken to MBS on the phone, and the guy “totally denied any knowledge of what took place,” which was good enough for Trump.

Certified Moron Donald Trump Thinks Wind Turbines “Cause Cancer”

April 3, 2019

“They say the noise causes cancer,” Trump claimed of wind turbines during a fundraiser in D.C. “If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations—your house just went down 75% in value.”

Trump Asks His Lawyer to Look Into Buying Greenland

April 15, 2019

And then when he was told no he threw a fit and canceled a trip to Denmark because the prime minister was mean to him and said he couldn’t buy an autonomous country.

Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

April 18, 2019

Did the president’s eldest son set up the infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 with Jared Kushner, then campaign manager Paul Manafort, a trio of Russians, and a translator after having been promised dirt on Hillary Clinton? Yes. Did he make a big show of telling everyone the Russians were coming, announcing it in the regular morning meeting of senior campaign staff and Trump family members, saying he had  “a lead on negative information about the Clinton Foundation” that he was taking a meeting to investigate? Yes. Was the whole thing so sketchy that the special counsel’s office “considered whether to charge Trump campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 meeting”? Also yes. Nevertheless, Don Jr. ended up getting off scot-free not because he hadn’t done anything wrong, but because Mueller concluded he was too stupid to know what he was doing—a stupidity that was memorialized in the Russia report with Mueller writing: “The Office determined that the government would not be likely to obtain and sustain a conviction [because]…the Office did not obtain admissible evidence likely to meet the government’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted ‘willfully,’ i.e. with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct.” Later, Don Jr. did a victory dance about the news that he was too dumb to be charged:

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1118911951067910144
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Trump Demands Apology From Congresswomen He Told to “Go Back” to Third World Hellholes

July 15, 2019

After attacking freshman congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib, falsely claiming that all four women “originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe,” and telling them to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came,” Trump demanded the four women say sorry to America, tweeting: “When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologize to our Country, the people of Israel and even to the Office of the President, for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said.”


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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:37:47 PM
Ivanka Trump: Let’s Focus on the Shootings My Dad Isn’t Responsible For

August 6, 2019

The first daughter really didn’t like it when people blamed her father for a mass shooting in El Paso by a perpetrator who wrote of an immigrant “invasion,” having stoked violence through his racist, anti-immigrant, misogynist rhetoric, which literally included lamenting that the government couldn’t stop migrants from crossing the border by shooting them.

Trump Displays Doctored Hurricane Map to Hit Alabama, Cover His Own Ass

September 4, 2019

Hey, remember when the president of the United States claimed a hurricane was going to hit Alabama, even though the government’s own forecasters never predicted such a thing, and after it failed to do so he used what looks to be a Sharpie to doctor a map in an attempt to claim he wasn’t the only one warning the state was going to get hit hard, even though he was? And then it came out that scientists and meteorologists were told not to correct him and just let him decide the weather?

“Is This Real?”: Trump Sends Third-Grade Reading-Level Letter to Erdogan

October 16, 2019

Days after greenlighting an invasion by Turkey into northern Syria, Trump apparently sort of changed his mind—which maybe had something to do with the House overwhelmingly voting to condemn his troop withdrawal from the area—and sent this letter to a world leader:

Dear Mr. President,

Let’s work out a good deal! You don’t want to be responsible for slaughtering thousands of people, and I don’t want to be responsible for destroying the Turkish economy—and I will. I’ve already given you a little sample with respect to Pastor Brunson.

I have worked hard to solve some of your problems. Don’t let the world down. You can make a great deal. General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past. I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received.

History will look upon you favorably if you get this done the right and humane way. It will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don’t happen. Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool!

I will call you later.

Sincerely,

Donald Trump

According to reports, Erdogan promptly threw the letter in the trash.

Trump Leans Into Corruption, Decides to Host G7 at Trump Doral

October 17, 2019

In the midst of an escalating impeachment inquiry, Trump said f--k it and announced that the next G7 summit, an event drawing hundreds of diplomats, security personnel, and reporters, would be held at his for-profit Miami golf resort, Trump Doral. Later, he tweeted that the White House had decided to look for another venue, based on the “Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility” he’d received in response to the news. According to his then chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, Trump was “honestly surprised at the level of pushback.”

Trump Boldly and Insanely Claims Ivanka Created 14 Million Jobs

November 12, 2019

Two of the most dominant features of the failed human experiment known as Donald Trump: his pathological inability to tell the truth, and his creepy obsession with his eldest daughter. On November 12, 2019, those two attributes collided when the president claimed that Ivanka has personally created 14 million jobs during her time in Washington, despite the fact that total U.S. employment has only grown by roughly 6 million in the last three years. “14 million and going up,” he said.

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Trump Goes Full Anti-Semite in a Room Full of Jewish People

December 9, 2019

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1203676537352007680

A few days later, his White House Hanukkah party featured a pastor who once said: “Not only do religions like Mormonism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, not only do they lead people away from the true God, they lead people to an eternity of separation from God in hell. You know, Jesus was very clear. Hell is not only going to be populated by murderers and drug dealers and child abusers. Hell is going to be filled with good religious people who have rejected the truth of Christ.”

Trump Claims Coronavirus Will “Miraculously” Go Away by April

February 11, 2020

It did not go away by April.

Stock Markets Crash as Trump Insists Coronavirus Fears Are “Fake News”

March 9, 2020

The Dow Jones dropped more than 1,800 points at the open while the S&P 500 fell more than 7%, a massive sell-off that triggered a circuit breaker and halted trading for 15 minutes. Meanwhile, Trump was still insisting this coronavirus business was much ado about nothing, although we now know that a month prior, he’d told Bob Woodward, “You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.”

Great News: Jared Kushner Doesn’t Think the Coronavirus Is a “Health Reality”

March 13, 2020

It was not great news. Particularly given Boy Wonder’s decision to “take on a more expansive role for himself despite his lack of knowledge on the topic,” and to do so “without talking to most of the task force members or public health experts.“ (On the other hand, he did consult Karlie Kloss’s father, who conferred with a Facebook group and got back to Jared.)

Trump Uses Coronavirus Press Conference to Confirm He’s an Actual Sociopath

March 20, 2020

During a press conference at the White House, NBC reporter Peter Alexander asked Trump, “What do you say to the Americans who are scared, though? Nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions, as you’ve witnessed, who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?” It was a softball question that anyone with a semblance of a soul could’ve answered with something like, “That’s an understandable feeling. I would tell them we’re in this together and we’re doing everything we can, as fast as we can.” Instead, Trump told Alexander: “I say that you’re a terrible reporter. That’s what I say. I think it’s a very nasty question, and I think it’s a very bad signal that you’re putting out to the American people. The American people are looking for answers and they’re looking for hope, and you’re doing sensationalism and the same with NBC and con-cast. I don’t call it Comcast, I call it ‘con-cast.’ Let me just tell you something. That’s really bad reporting, and you ought to get back to reporting instead of sensationalism.”

Lysol Manufacturer Warns Trump Is a Dangerous Moron, “Under No Circumstance” Should Disinfectant Be Injected in Body

April 24, 2020

This is a thing that actually had to be said after Trump, upon hearing that research had shown bleach and isopropyl alcohol could kill the virus, mused: “The disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. One minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside?” It would be, he mused, “almost a cleaning. It gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number on the lungs,” adding “It’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me.”

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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:39:07 PM
Trump Two Weeks Away From Claiming He Saw Biden Selling Drugs Outside the Washington Monument

September 11, 2020

In the weeks leading up to the first presidential debate, Trump started claiming that Biden was using performance-enhancing drugs, demanding that his opponent pee in a cup before they took to the stage. Yes, people reading this in the year 2121, that actually happened!

Donald Trump, Worst Person on Earth, Says Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Dying Wish Is a Democratic Hoax

September 21, 2020

Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg really say, as dictated to and reported by her granddaughter, “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed”? Donald Trump, human parasite, wasn’t so sure. “I don’t know that she said that, or was that written out by Adam Schiff and Schumer and Pelosi,” he told Fox just days after RBG died. “I would be more inclined to the second…But that sounds like a Schumer deal or maybe a Pelosi or Shifty Schiff.”

“Steroid-Induced Psychosis”: Donald Trump Follows Up Sunday Night Joyride With Extra-Crazy Monday (Even for Him)

October 5, 2020

The president followed up a weekend in which he forced Secret Service agents to drive his COVID-19–riddled body around the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center by making people extra worried about his mental state (which, at its baseline, is rabies-addled raccoon). “If @realDonaldTrump were my patient…I’d call security to restrain him then perform a psychiatric evaluation to examine his decision-making capacity,” one doctor tweeted. “Sounds like steroid induced psychosis is setting in,” said another. Not for the first time, concerns were raised about him having access to the nuclear codes.

Trump Insists It’s Entirely Possible Democrats Are Running a Satanic Pedophile Cult

October 16, 2020

This was Trump’s big pitch to the American people in the run-up to the election:

https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1316915656827305985

Report: Jared Kushner an Even Bigger Idiot Than Previously Thought (And Yes, That’s Saying Something)

October 28, 2020

Thanks to the recordings made by Bob Woodward while he was researching his second book on the Trump administration, we know that the first son-in-law bragged that he was taking “the country back from the doctors” at the height of the pandemic, and believed that the U.S. was at the start of its “comeback” in April. Oops, Jared! Swing and a miss!

Donald Trump, Colossal Asshole, Says Doctors Get Extra Cash If People Die of COVID-19

October 30, 2020

“You know, in Germany,” he told a crowd in Waterford Township, Michigan, “if you have a bad heart and you’re ready to die, or if you have cancer and you’re going to be dying soon, and you catch COVID, that happens, we mark it down to COVID. You know, our doctors get more money if somebody dies from COVID. You know that, right? I mean, our doctors are very smart people...In Germany and other places, if you have a heart attack or you have cancer, you’re terminally ill, you catch COVID, they say you died of cancer, you died of a heart attack. With us, when in doubt, choose COVID. It’s true. No, it’s true. No, they’ll say, ‘Oh, it’s terrible what he said,’ but it’s true. It’s, like, $2,000 more. So you get more money. This could only happen to us.”

Trump Insists He’s Still Going to Be President as White House Landlord Asks For Forwarding Address for Security Deposit

November 24, 2020

The transition was officially underway, and Trump was online retweeting an image saying, “I concede NOTHING!!!!!”

Donald Trump Hits Feces-Flinging Stage of Election “Fraud” Fight

December 22, 2020

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:39:42 PM
On day 46 of the Donald Trump Attempts to Overthrow Democracy Show, the president continued to refuse to accept the results of the 2020 election, despite zero evidence of voter fraud and having been humiliated in court dozens of times. According to contemporaneous reports, he believed everyone around him was “weak, stupid, or disloyal.” Top officials desperately tried to avoid the West Wing, where Trump was “lashing out” and everyone was “in the blast zone.” Anyone not in the “use the Department of Homeland Security or the military to impound voting machines” camp was dead to him.

Donald Trump, Dealmaker in Chief, Turned Down “Multiple” Offers to Buy More Pfizer Vaccine

December 8, 2020

This one didn’t turn out to be a great idea. More on that later.

Trump Unleashes Fascist Mob on Capitol Hill to Overthrow Democracy

January 6, 2021

Days after he unsuccessfully pressured a Georgia election official to “find” him 11,780 votes, the president of the United States whipped his supporters into a violent frenzy, inciting them to lay siege on Capitol Hill in an attempt to block the certification of Biden’s win and possibly declare him president for life. As they attacked the building, and lawmakers went into hiding, Trump and Giuliani called a lawmaker and tried to convince him to delay the counting of the Electoral College votes. (While trying to reach Senator Tommy Tuberville, the dynamic duo accidentally called Mike Lee.)

Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr. Are in Furious Damage Control Mode Following Capitol Hill Siege

January 6, 2021

The president’s adult children would like it to be known that when they threatened lawmakers and called the violent mob “American patriots,” they didn’t mean it in the sense that makes them culpable for the riot or results in their shunning by polite society.

Hope Hicks Is Resigning From the White House but Not Because People Broke Into the Capitol and Smeared S--t Through the Halls, Which She’s Fine With

January 8, 2021

Like many Trump administration officials, Hicks, or “Hopey,” as Trump called her, decided to cut her time in the White House a little short. But unlike other people, who put out statements saying the insurrection incited by Trump was the cause, Hicks wanted to make it clear her departure had nothing to do with the violent riot, or Trump’s followers smearing shit through the halls, and that she was not taking a stand.

Melania Trump: Has No One Stopped to Think How the Capitol Hill Attack Affected ME?

January 11, 2021

After five days of silence surrounding the violent attack on Capitol Hill, first lady Melania Trump issued a statement saying she was “disappointed and disheartened with what happened last week,” though she wasn’t talking about her husband inciting a violent mob. She was talking about “unwarranted personal attacks” against her from people “who are looking to be relevant and have an agenda.” If we didn’t know better, we’d have thought Donald Trump wrote it himself, but there was no mention of the election having been stolen from him, so apparently this was all Melania.

Trump Thought He Could Convince Pence to Overthrow the Election by Calling Him a Pussy

January 13, 2021

When that didn’t work out, he turned to plan B: incite an angry mob that wanted to kill the V.P.

Report: Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Made Their Secret Service Detail Go to Extreme Lengths “to Find a Bathroom”

January 14, 2021

Centuries from now it’s important that history students are taught that the first daughter and her husband refused to let the Secret Service agents guarding their lives use any of their 6.5 toilets, forcing the security detail to use the Obamas’ bathroom, Pence’s bathroom, and the bathrooms of local businesses, until they ultimately rented an apartment across the street for access to its toilet, costing taxpayers more than $100,000.

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The Trump Administration Was Just Kidding When It Said It Had Tons More Vaccine Doses to Ship Out (It Has Zero)

January 15, 2021

Stop us if you’ve heard this hilarious gag before.

Mitch McConnell, Senate Ghoul, Will Let Trump Finish His Full Term After Being Impeached Twice

January 14, 2021

In the end Trump was not forcibly removed from the White House despite posing a clear and present danger to society, but he was the first president in history to be impeached twice. He may also become the first president to both actually be convicted by the Senate and perhaps a court of law. Also the first one to kill 400,000 people and, separately, incite an act of sedition! Can’t forget that.

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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 12:43:42 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2021, 12:44:51 PM


Full blown TDS meltdown. 
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Post by: Body-Buildah on May 04, 2021, 12:46:31 PM
Full blown TDS meltdown.

Because of being sensitive pussies over Donald hurting their feelings, it makes it OK in their mind to have a father/son kid-rapist duo in the whitehouse.
Retards. ::)
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Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
60 Top Corporations Paid $0 Federal Taxes Under Trump Tax Law
Amazon, Chevron, Netflix, Eli Lilly, IBM and General Motors are reaping tax cut benefits and paying nothing.
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President Donald Trump’s new tax law aided corporations so radically that twice as many companies paid no federal taxes whatsoever in 2018, despite billions of dollars in profit, according to a new study.

Amazon, Netflix, Chevron, Eli Lilly, Delta Airlines, General Motors, IBM and Goodyear were among the tax-free corporate titans, according to an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington think tank, released Thursday.


The study found that 60 of some of the largest publicly held companies paid no taxes — compared with an average of about 30 each year from 2008 to 2015, before Trump and congressional Republicans passed the tax law that took effect in 2018. The measure heavily favors corporations and the wealthy.

The analysis is based on 2018 financial filings of the country’s largest 560 publicly held companies.

The companies that paid nothing in taxes were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to the study, first  reported by the Center for Public Integrity and NBC News.

Corporations reaped the benefits of a tax rate slashed from 35% to 21% in Trump’s tax law, and exploited various deductions, tax credits and rebates.

“Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year,” the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy report says.


Farm equipment manufacturer John Deere, for example, reported earning $2.15 billion in U.S. income before taxes. It owed no U.S. taxes in 2018 and reported the government owes the company $268 million because of various deductions and credits, the report says.

The cut in the corporate tax rate alone will save corporations $1.35 trillion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.

As for the nation, revenues from the corporate tax fell by 31% in 2018  to $204 billion.

“This was a more precipitous decline than in any year of normal economic growth in U.S. history,” Matthew Gardner, Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy senior fellow, wrote in the report.

Trump insisted before his law was passed that the corporate tax cut would pay for itself. He argued that the giveback would trigger a boom in business operations that would lead to increased taxes on ballooning income, which would plug the giant hole in the budget.

But it hasn’t worked out that way. The nation’s budget deficit is now the biggest in history.

During his campaign, Trump vowed to eliminate the $19.9 trillion national debt in eight years. Instead, it jumped 41.8 percent in just the first four months of this fiscal year (which runs from October through September).

An April Government Accountability Office report called the “federal government’s current fiscal path ... unsustainable.” The cost of interest alone on the national debt runs $896 million each day.

Trump’s top economic adviser Larry Kudlow insisted Thursday that “economic growth” has already “paid for a good chunk” of the tax cuts. The budget outlook is “not as bad as many people say,” he said.

Bloomberg pointed out that Kudlow’s declaration defies data from his own administration.

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 04, 2021, 01:46:27 PM
Because of being sensitive pussies over Donald hurting their feelings, it makes it OK in their mind to have a father/son kid-rapist duo in the whitehouse.
Retards. ::)
           
     
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 04, 2021, 01:51:26 PM
60 Top Corporations Paid $0 Federal Taxes Under Trump Tax Law
Amazon, Chevron, Netflix, Eli Lilly, IBM and General Motors are reaping tax cut benefits and paying nothing.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss
4.5k
President Donald Trump’s new tax law aided corporations so radically that twice as many companies paid no federal taxes whatsoever in 2018, despite billions of dollars in profit, according to a new study.

Amazon, Netflix, Chevron, Eli Lilly, Delta Airlines, General Motors, IBM and Goodyear were among the tax-free corporate titans, according to an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington think tank, released Thursday.


The study found that 60 of some of the largest publicly held companies paid no taxes — compared with an average of about 30 each year from 2008 to 2015, before Trump and congressional Republicans passed the tax law that took effect in 2018. The measure heavily favors corporations and the wealthy.

The analysis is based on 2018 financial filings of the country’s largest 560 publicly held companies.

The companies that paid nothing in taxes were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to the study, first  reported by the Center for Public Integrity and NBC News.

Corporations reaped the benefits of a tax rate slashed from 35% to 21% in Trump’s tax law, and exploited various deductions, tax credits and rebates.

“Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year,” the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy report says.


Farm equipment manufacturer John Deere, for example, reported earning $2.15 billion in U.S. income before taxes. It owed no U.S. taxes in 2018 and reported the government owes the company $268 million because of various deductions and credits, the report says.

The cut in the corporate tax rate alone will save corporations $1.35 trillion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.

As for the nation, revenues from the corporate tax fell by 31% in 2018  to $204 billion.

“This was a more precipitous decline than in any year of normal economic growth in U.S. history,” Matthew Gardner, Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy senior fellow, wrote in the report.

Trump insisted before his law was passed that the corporate tax cut would pay for itself. He argued that the giveback would trigger a boom in business operations that would lead to increased taxes on ballooning income, which would plug the giant hole in the budget.

But it hasn’t worked out that way. The nation’s budget deficit is now the biggest in history.

During his campaign, Trump vowed to eliminate the $19.9 trillion national debt in eight years. Instead, it jumped 41.8 percent in just the first four months of this fiscal year (which runs from October through September).

An April Government Accountability Office report called the “federal government’s current fiscal path ... unsustainable.” The cost of interest alone on the national debt runs $896 million each day.

Trump’s top economic adviser Larry Kudlow insisted Thursday that “economic growth” has already “paid for a good chunk” of the tax cuts. The budget outlook is “not as bad as many people say,” he said.

Bloomberg pointed out that Kudlow’s declaration defies data from his own administration.

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Mary Papenfuss from Huffington Post is your source?

Hahahaha...were Hillary Clinton and Moochelle Obozo busy?
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Post by: Straw Man on May 04, 2021, 02:01:12 PM
Mary Papenfuss from Huffington Post is your source?

Hahahaha...were Hillary Clinton and Moochelle Obozo busy?

here's the source  dipshit

https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/

HuffPost just wrote a story about it just like many other  news outlets did at the time

Trumptards should just list what source they deem unacceptable and why
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Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 05:00:23 PM
Funk, there is no freakin' way I am going to read that stuff.  And I could give an airborne intercourse because I am a Trump supporter.  President Trump is for America's citizens, not her SHITIZENS.

There is a difference you know.  Those that work are citizens.  Those that sponge of those that work are SHITIZENS.

I want my Nation and her people (not the SHEEPLE) put first.  I don't expect a freakin' free ride because of my weirdass proclivities, e.g., sexual perversion, sexual orientation (as if there were just ONE for these assholes}, desire to pollute my body with drugs, etc.

And yes.  There will never be another Jerome Horwitz.  The Stooge Supreme.
Be well, my friend.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 05:01:58 PM
here's the source  dipshit

https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/

HuffPost just wrote a story about it just like many other  news outlets did at the time

Trumptards should just list what source they deem unacceptable and why

Go fuck a pig's anus you filthy muslime sympathizer. I will gladly be banned just to see  you banned.   This ain't the real world tonsil-turd.  I hope you get the Covid and ASSume room temperature.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2021, 05:43:09 PM
Who the f cares.  The govt has enough money already


60 Top Corporations Paid $0 Federal Taxes Under Trump Tax Law
Amazon, Chevron, Netflix, Eli Lilly, IBM and General Motors are reaping tax cut benefits and paying nothing.
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President Donald Trump’s new tax law aided corporations so radically that twice as many companies paid no federal taxes whatsoever in 2018, despite billions of dollars in profit, according to a new study.

Amazon, Netflix, Chevron, Eli Lilly, Delta Airlines, General Motors, IBM and Goodyear were among the tax-free corporate titans, according to an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington think tank, released Thursday.


The study found that 60 of some of the largest publicly held companies paid no taxes — compared with an average of about 30 each year from 2008 to 2015, before Trump and congressional Republicans passed the tax law that took effect in 2018. The measure heavily favors corporations and the wealthy.

The analysis is based on 2018 financial filings of the country’s largest 560 publicly held companies.

The companies that paid nothing in taxes were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to the study, first  reported by the Center for Public Integrity and NBC News.

Corporations reaped the benefits of a tax rate slashed from 35% to 21% in Trump’s tax law, and exploited various deductions, tax credits and rebates.

“Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year,” the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy report says.


Farm equipment manufacturer John Deere, for example, reported earning $2.15 billion in U.S. income before taxes. It owed no U.S. taxes in 2018 and reported the government owes the company $268 million because of various deductions and credits, the report says.

The cut in the corporate tax rate alone will save corporations $1.35 trillion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.

As for the nation, revenues from the corporate tax fell by 31% in 2018  to $204 billion.

“This was a more precipitous decline than in any year of normal economic growth in U.S. history,” Matthew Gardner, Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy senior fellow, wrote in the report.

Trump insisted before his law was passed that the corporate tax cut would pay for itself. He argued that the giveback would trigger a boom in business operations that would lead to increased taxes on ballooning income, which would plug the giant hole in the budget.

But it hasn’t worked out that way. The nation’s budget deficit is now the biggest in history.

During his campaign, Trump vowed to eliminate the $19.9 trillion national debt in eight years. Instead, it jumped 41.8 percent in just the first four months of this fiscal year (which runs from October through September).

An April Government Accountability Office report called the “federal government’s current fiscal path ... unsustainable.” The cost of interest alone on the national debt runs $896 million each day.

Trump’s top economic adviser Larry Kudlow insisted Thursday that “economic growth” has already “paid for a good chunk” of the tax cuts. The budget outlook is “not as bad as many people say,” he said.

Bloomberg pointed out that Kudlow’s declaration defies data from his own administration.

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 04, 2021, 05:51:09 PM
Go fuck a pig's anus you filthy muslime sympathizer. I will gladly be banned just to see  you banned.   This ain't the real world tonsil-turd.  I hope you get the Covid and ASSume room temperature.

You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold.

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold.

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.

Fuck off you fucking fuck.  No one gives a shit about you and your fuckin' filthy fucked up ways.  Go fuck a donkey, buttwiper.

Yeah.  You are one dumb mother fucker and I hope you Covid up and Kobe out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2021, 05:54:09 PM
Almost 51 !   And the dump is still a mess
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 04, 2021, 05:54:59 PM
Fuck off you fucking fuck.  No one gives a shit about you and your fuckin' filthy fucked up ways.  Go fuck a donkey, buttwiper.

Yeah.  You are one dumb mother fucker and I hope you Covid up and Kobe out.
My man! 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 04, 2021, 06:03:08 PM
Liberals making their retarded points with Huffington Post as their source.

Might as well just have PrimePedo google their opinions for them.

The Democrat Party is the party of hypocrisy and lies.

Joe Biden is a RAPIST.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2021, 06:05:21 PM
Liberals making their retarded points with Huffington Post as their source.

Might as well just have PrimePedo google their opinions for them.

The Democrat Party is the party of hypocrisy and lies.

Joe Biden is a RAPIST.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 04, 2021, 06:08:31 PM
Almost 51 !   And the dump is still a mess

Yeah, but for me a lot of the posts in this thread say:

“You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.”

Raise your right hand if you have ever got coked up enough that you fucked your dead brother’s widow!

JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2021, 06:15:32 PM
It's refreshing to see a Republican lawmaker not afraid to tell the truth and call Trump out. Of course it's at risk of losing votes but the main problem with our government is the focus on re-election rather than doing whats right so this is great to see. It is a lie. The election was NOT stolen. That is a fact. Time for Republicans to shake off the kool aid and face reality

Truer words have never been said. I can say this because they are the same ones I've said many times.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2021, 06:20:51 PM
When I meant “either” I meant you, lurker, straw, Agnostic, etc. keep up

I prefer my version of what you meant. But then, I am a bit of a stickler for getting the details right, right?  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 06:21:39 PM
Truer words have never been said. I can say this because they are the same ones I've said many times.

Neither you nor the Law Enfarcement Officer know whereof you type.  Trust me. Or not.  I know enough to know the truth when I see and hear it.  Don't piss down our backs and tell us we should enjoy the golden showers.

President Trump is for America and Americans.   

Libs can Covid up and Kobe out. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2021, 06:25:39 PM
Got Kovid yet Kunt?  Can't be that "deadly" if a deadbeat twatling such as you never gets it.  Kovid up and Kobe out.   You pathetic communist.

Got vaccinated yet, Scott? If not, considering your health issues, it would be prudent of you to do so ASAP.  You can sometimes be a total pain in the, you know what, but I'd hate to see you get sick or worse....face your maker. Me thinks you have much to atone for before that happens. Plus, I'd miss you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 04, 2021, 06:28:09 PM
I prefer my version of what you meant. But then, I am a bit of a stickler for getting the details right, right?  :)

The Google queen is a stickler for details?

Hahahahahahaha...you haven’t had an original thought in your life, janitor.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
Neither you nor the Law Enfarcement Officer know whereof you type.  Trust me. Or not.  I know enough to know the truth when I see and hear it.  Don't piss down our backs and tell us we should enjoy the golden showers.

President Trump is for America and Americans.   

Libs can Covid up and Kobe out.

Yes well, keep that thought. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Trump is for Trump. There will come a day when you realize this and it will probably crush you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 06:37:57 PM
Got vaccinated yet, Scott? If not, considering your health issues, it would be prudent of you to do so ASAP.  You can sometimes be a total pain in the, you know what, but I'd hate to see you get sick or worse....face your maker. Me thinks you have much to atone for before that happens. Plus, I'd miss you.

Per the plethora of physicians attempting to find out what is wrong me, I am NOT to get any such vaccine at this time.  I have been dead before and should death come for me I will go along for the ride.  After all, sleep is nothing but death sans the possible repercussions.   

If there is a God, he is without a doubt powerless against his own poor judgment.  This realization saddens me no end but still I hold the Nazarene in the highest esteem.   I  have no doubt Jesus existed because those like Peter died for their belief in him and it is historical that they did so.  What sort of fool would die for a canard?  The Apostles were men of  honor.

There are few such men or women in today's world that live, let alone die, as did the Nazarene and his followers.  Whited sepulchers are everywhere and I have spent decades denouncing them to their faces in the real world that is local houses of "worship".  I fear less the end of all things that then lies of men speaking out their ass.  If the eyes are the window to the soul then surely the mouth is the bilge pump of the mind...less.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 06:46:05 PM
Yes well, keep that thought. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Trump is for Trump. There will come a day when you realize this and it will probably crush you.

I know people that have met President Trump.  Men and women of high honor that I trust and to a man and woman they have all told me they find no deceit in him. He is for America and her Citizens, apparently you and  your kind are for the shitizens.  The leeches.  The morally fetid.  Those without honor and "gender".   And worse.

There will be weeping and gnashing of dentures.   If Covid is sooooooo "deadly" how is it the weakest link lives on?  Answer:  Covid is just another variation on the theme that is the flu. The only difference is the world is peopled by chicken littles.

FTN.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 04, 2021, 06:52:52 PM
I know people that have met President Trump.  Men and women of high honor that I trust and to a man and woman they have all told me they find no deceit in him. He is for America and her Citizens, apparently you and  your kind are for the shitizens.  The leeches.  The morally fetid.  Those without honor and "gender".   And worse.

There will be weeping and gnashing of dentures.   If Covid is sooooooo "deadly" how is the weakest link lives on?  Answer:  Covid is just another variation on the theme that is the flu. The only difference is the world is peopled by chicken littles.

FTN.

Dude....why do you even bother responding to that Josh Duggar wannabe?

He’s a fucking retard who lives in a house full of four generations of deviant white trash, government leeches. He’s an ex janitor who spent 45 years hanging out in grade school boys bathrooms.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
Dude....why do you even bother responding to that Josh Duggar wannabe?

He’s a fucking retard who lives in a house full of four generations of deviant white trash, government leeches. He’s an ex janitor who spent 45 years hanging out in grade school boys bathrooms.

I realize that speaking to such as  him is like talking to a wall. But even a wall can be written on.  My words are not simple minded graffiti and there may yet be a mind inside that withered scrotum of a skull.

But I doubt it and you are most likely correct, my friend.  Be well, sir.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 04, 2021, 08:56:02 PM
Not sure what point Funk was trying to make since in four years they’ve found nothing but fake news of Trump and EVERY smoking gun has been literally debunked and he’s been exonerated I both fake impeachment’s and everything in between and after the last one....see Funk, I did all that without 2 pages of fake news. 😂

Can’t wait until 2022 -2024 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 04, 2021, 09:01:15 PM
.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 04, 2021, 09:24:06 PM
.

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2021, 12:29:02 PM
Per the plethora of physicians attempting to find out what is wrong me, I am NOT to get any such vaccine at this time.  I have been dead before and should death come for me I will go along for the ride.  After all, sleep is nothing but death sans the possible repercussions.   

If there is a God, he is without a doubt powerless against his own poor judgment.  This realization saddens me no end but still I hold the Nazarene in the highest esteem.   I  have no doubt Jesus existed because those like Peter died for their belief in him and it is historical that they did so.  What sort of fool would die for a canard?  The Apostles were men of  honor.

There are few such men or women in today's world that live, let alone die, as did the Nazarene and his followers.  Whited sepulchers are everywhere and I have spent decades denouncing them to their faces in the real world that is local houses of "worship".  I fear less the end of all things that then lies of men speaking out their ass.  If the eyes are the window to the soul then surely the mouth is the bilge pump of the mind...less.

Ah so it's ashes to ashes and dust to dust. I have no doubt Jesus existed. That his existence continues to inspire billions of people is pretty amazing when you think of how small his world was during his short time here (33 years) and even more astounding when you consider his ministry lasted a mere 3 years.

If the eyes are the windows of the soul are the blind soulless? ;) How do you know when blind person is lying or is the possessor of evil? Is bilge from the mouth anything you don't want to hear because you don't agree with what is being said? What role do our ears play in these metaphors?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 05, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Jesus hang arounds gloryholes with 'Prime-Pudding Pop Pounder' and Bathhouse Barry?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 05, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
&t=28s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 05, 2021, 04:09:10 PM
&t=28s
Terrible post as usual. You've really gone downhill in your old age. :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 06, 2021, 03:32:06 AM
Terrible post as usual. You've really gone downhill in your old age. :-\

Again, libs focus on what Trump said to hurt their feelings, and not what he did, 50 year greatest economy until fake/plandemic shut shit down (China-Joe Virus). Foolish video response.
Joe says shit twice as dumb, and has done more harm in 100 days than anyone could have thought. Full-on retard. Raped his own daughter (she never denied it) his kid rapes kids, thats quite OK in their minds.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 06, 2021, 04:39:46 AM
.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1303762;image)


"I've heard you shrink when you get older but holy sheet!"

(https://media.tenor.co/images/830800d4e0fc56b7fd6ccf465c9575fc/raw)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2021, 05:50:11 AM
51 pages!   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 06, 2021, 07:08:03 AM
51 pages!   

Dam, wish I started this thread.  I'd be a legend.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 06, 2021, 07:38:04 AM
There's nothing sadder than an old, woke lib conspirator....even the singer from THE WHO says it's pointless to be woke.



“I don’t know, we might get somewhere because it’s becoming so absurd now with AI, all the tricks it can do, and the woke generation,” said Daltrey.

“It’s terrifying, the miserable world they’re going to create for themselves. I mean, anyone who’s lived a life and you see what they’re doing, you just know that it’s a route to nowhere,” he added.



https://summit.guy-daltrey-the-woke-generation-is-creating-a-miserable-world/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 06, 2021, 10:26:31 AM
There's nothing sadder than an old, woke lib conspirator....even the singer from THE WHO says it's pointless to be woke.

“I don’t know, we might get somewhere because it’s becoming so absurd now with AI, all the tricks it can do, and the woke generation,” said Daltrey.

“It’s terrifying, the miserable world they’re going to create for themselves. I mean, anyone who’s lived a life and you see what they’re doing, you just know that it’s a route to nowhere,” he added.

https://summit.guy-daltrey-the-woke-generation-is-creating-a-miserable-world/

He's a glory-hole wizard
There has to be a twist
A glory-hole wizard's got such a weak-limp wrist

'Why do you think he suxx c0ck?
I don't know
What makes Prime so good?'

Ain't got no distractions
Prime just juggles those big-balls
Don't see no cocks a-flashin'
Prime goes by sense of smell
Always gets the butter
Never seen him gripe

That old soggy libturd
Sure sucks a mean meat-pipe...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on May 06, 2021, 11:35:02 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1303762;image)

I tend to stay out of the politics stuff, but that pic is hilarious!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 06, 2021, 12:41:31 PM
Is that a real picture? Two giants with two miniature people. Cute but disturbing.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: BB on May 06, 2021, 12:49:51 PM
Is that a real picture? Two giants with two miniature people. Cute but disturbing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/04/carters-bidens-photo-georgia-giant/ .

Real, in the US, lots of people were trying to figure it out. The above article is the best one explaining some of it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2021, 01:03:00 PM
52!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 06, 2021, 01:49:45 PM
Not sure what point Funk was trying to make since in four years they’ve found nothing but fake news of Trump and EVERY smoking gun has been literally debunked and he’s been exonerated I both fake impeachment’s and everything in between and after the last one....see Funk, I did all that without 2 pages of fake news. 😂

Can’t wait until 2022 -2024 😂


funks41 head is juiced in morphine  (8 hips surgeries  ;D)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 06, 2021, 01:50:32 PM
He's a glory-hole wizard
There has to be a twist
A glory-hole wizard's got such a weak-limp wrist

'Why do you think he suxx c0ck?
I don't know
What makes Prime so good?'

Ain't got no distractions
Prime just juggles those big-balls
Don't see no cocks a-flashin'
Prime goes by sense of smell
Always gets the butter
Never seen him gripe

That old soggy libturd
Sure sucks a mean meat-pipe...


(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FluidLivelyChimpanzee-max-1mb.gif)


Now 2nd verse for Shizzo.  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 06, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
52!
   
    just doing my part to take this thread to the centennial mark. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 06, 2021, 01:57:36 PM


funk41 should donate his body to Dr. Gunter von Hagens  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 06, 2021, 02:18:35 PM
Almost 51 !   And the dump is still a mess

(https://media.tenor.com/images/e0bc3a103280441134da31eb3e7a1c4f/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 06, 2021, 03:27:50 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 06, 2021, 03:42:47 PM



Hey funk41, do U plan to represent Joe Biden @ C R I P L E Olympics


 :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
This thread gonna be pumped like dogecoin.    ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2021, 10:00:48 PM
This thread gonna be pumped like dogecoin.    ;D

This tread is like a case study in liberal human behavior lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 06:36:22 AM



Hey funk41, do U plan to represent Joe Biden @ C R I P L E Olympics


 :D
                 
       
     so by that you're saying the USA, because last time I checked joe Biden was still president of the USA. and it's funk 51 , don't make it worse then it already is. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2021, 07:10:58 AM
   so by that you're saying the USA, because last time I checked joe Biden was still president of the USA. and it's funk 51 , don't make it worse then it already is. ::) ::) ::) ::)

President in name only. That old fuck isn’t running shit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 07, 2021, 07:54:20 AM
President in name only. That old fuck isn’t running shit

Is that your new conspiracy theory?  Who's running things?  The guy with the fake birth certificate in the pizza shop basement who does covid assassinations in his spare time?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2021, 07:55:31 AM
Is that your new conspiracy theory?  Who's running things?  The guy with the fake birth certificate in the pizza shop basement who does covid assassinations in his spare time?

If you are naming Michelle Obama as the guy w a fake BC in a pizza shop basement - you are probably correct.   :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2021, 09:30:45 AM
“The April jobs report released Friday showed the US economy heavily missed Wall Street’s mark, adding a measly 266,000 new jobs.

The unemployment rate also unexpectedly rose to 6.1%, about twice the precrisis level, the Labor Department said in its monthly payroll report, released Friday morning. Economists surveyed by Refinitiv expected the report to show that unemployment fell to 5.8% and the economy added 978,000 jobs.”

CHINA JOE THE RAPIST CRASHING THE HISTORICALLY SUCCESSFUL TRUMP ECONOMY.

Pelosi will piss her Depends and call for more spending.

The Laughing Hyena Harris will hide in the VP mansion and avoid the invasion of the southern border.

JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 12:32:52 PM
“The April jobs report released Friday showed the US economy heavily missed Wall Street’s mark, adding a measly 266,000 new jobs.

The unemployment rate also unexpectedly rose to 6.1%, about twice the precrisis level, the Labor Department said in its monthly payroll report, released Friday morning. Economists surveyed by Refinitiv expected the report to show that unemployment fell to 5.8% and the economy added 978,000 jobs.”

CHINA JOE THE RAPIST CRASHING THE HISTORICALLY SUCCESSFUL TRUMP ECONOMY.

Pelosi will piss her Depends and call for more spending.

The Laughing Hyena Harris will hide in the VP mansion and avoid the invasion of the southern border.

JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!
           How U.S. economy has performed during Biden's first 100 days – in 7 charts
The economy seems to be accelerating, with stepped-up vaccinations and more stimulus. That's burnishing Biden's record in his first 100 days.
Paul Davidson and George Petras, USA TODAY
Published 12:01 AM EDT Apr. 28, 2021 Updated 1:52 PM EDT Apr. 29, 2021


Biden signs $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill
Marking a year of loss and disruption, President Joe Biden on Thursday signed into law the $1.9 trillion relief package that he says will help the U.S. defeat the coronavirus and nurse the economy back to health. (March 11)
AP
If the most telling scorecard of a U.S. presidency is the economy, then President Joe Biden deserves high marks for his first 100 days.

It’s a small sample, of course – featuring data for just a couple of months – but measures of job growth and retail sales pointed to a booming economy in March. And analysts say that’s likely just the beginning of a historically robust year.

Much of the surge can be traced to growing COVID-19 vaccinations – with 40% of the population having received at least one shot, according to Goldman Sachs – a leveling off of virus cases, and the lifting of business restrictions in many states. And don’t forget the nearly $4 trillion in Congress’s COVID-19 relief packages, including $1,800 per person in stimulus checks sent to most Americans through December.

In other words, the economy was on track to bust out even before Biden moved into the White House.

Richard Moody, chief economist, Regions Financial
Just the economy reopening would go a long way toward healing the wounds.
“Just the economy reopening would go a long way toward healing the wounds,” says Richard Moody, chief economist of Regions Financial.


Yet under Biden, the vaccine rollout has been faster than expected at more than 3 million shots a day the past couple of weeks.

“Biden gets props for getting the vaccine process sped up,” Moody says.

He also spearheaded the latest $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief package, passed by Congress in March, that includes another round of $1,400 stimulus checks. The Treasury Department says it has disbursed 161 million of those payments totaling $379 billion. All told, Americans are flush with an additional $2.4 trillion that they’ve squirreled way during the outbreak and they’re ready to spend much of it just as the economy is getting back on its feet. 

Put simply, the president helped put a strong recovery on steroids.

Bernard Baumohi, chief economist, Economic Outlook Group
We can give Biden credit for improving consumer and business confidence.
“We can give Biden credit for improving consumer and business confidence,” says Bernard Baumohl, chief economist of the Economic Outlook Group.

There are still risks, including the possibility of COVID-19 spikes that outpace vaccinations. Another hindrance could be the supply-chain delays, including chip shortages, that have hobbled manufacturers and undermined sales of cars, smartphones and other products.

Biden may toss some cold water on the hot economy. Bloomberg reported late last week that the White House will propose a sharp hike in the capital gains tax to pay for his proposed social service programs, driving down a roaring Dow Jones industrial average by 321 points.

With a portrait of former President Abraham Lincoln behind him, President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dining Room of the White House, on Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington.
With a portrait of former President Abraham Lincoln behind him, President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dining Room of the White House, on Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington.
ALEX BRANDON, AP
But most economic gauges have pointed up during Biden’s first hundred days. Here’s a look:

Nearly 1M jobs added in March

U.S. employers added 460,000 jobs in February and 916,000 in March, cutting short what was supposed to be a dark winter for the economy after 306,000 job losses in December. Nearly half the gains were in leisure and hospitality, which was decimated by the health crisis and includes restaurants, bars and hotels. The U.S. has recovered 13.9 million, or 62%, of the 22.4 million jobs lost last spring as eateries and other businesses shuttered by the outbreak have reopened or increased capacity limits, Labor Department figures show.

“A faster vaccine rollout and further fiscal stimulus have accelerated activity,” Morgan Stanley wrote in a note to clients.

Moody expects more than 1 million job gains each month this spring and a return to the pre-COVID-19 employment level sometime next year.

Morgan Stanley expects the economy to grow 7.5% this year – most since 1984 – and Oxford Economics forecasts a record 7 million job gains.

The crisis will leave scars. More than 4 million Americans have been jobless six months or longer, reducing their chances of getting rehired. And about 4 million people have stopped working or looking for jobs because they’re discouraged, caring for kids or sick relatives, or other reasons.

Retail sales jump


Total retail sales leaped 9.8% in March – the most since last May – after dipping in February amid severe storms, particularly in Texas and other Southern states. Barclays credits the latest round of stimulus checks as well as reopenings in several states and a snapback following February’s weather-related pullback.

The blockbuster sales lifted a broad range of categories, including physical stores pummeled by the pandemic. Sales climbed 23.5% at sporting goods, music and book stores; 18.3% at clothing outlets; 13% at department stores; and 13.4% at restaurants and bars, according to the Census Bureau.

Retail sales overall are now 17% above their pre-pandemic level. The strong report led Morgan Stanley to raise its forecast for consumer spending growth in the first quarter to 10.6%. It upgraded its estimate for first-quarter economic growth to 9.7%.

Consumer confidence surges

After falling to a six-year low in April 2020, consumer confidence surged the past couple of months as stimulus checks flooded bank accounts, and it’s now modestly below its pre-pandemic level. Americans’ view of both present conditions and their expectations for the next six months brightened.

Fourteen percent of those surveyed plan to buy a car in the next six months, up from 10.2% in February, and 8.9% intend to buy a home, up from 6%, according to the Conference Board.

Housing starts rise 19% in March

The housing market has been the economy’s biggest bright spot during the pandemic as Americans stuck at home have bought bigger houses, often fleeing dense urban areas for the suburbs. That has continued since Biden took office despite mortgage rates that have edged higher. In March, housing starts jumped 19.4% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.74 million, highest since 2006, Census data shows.

Business investment stays strong

Free-spending consumers are prodding companies to expand and buy new machines and other goods to meet demand. A core reading of business orders for long-lasting goods such as computers and factory equipment that's tantamount to capital spending rose 0.9% in March after dropping in February amid the harsh weather, Census said. Overall, business spending has rocketed higher since last spring and is 10.4% above the pre-crisis mark. The work-at-home market triggered a flurry of tech-related spending, Amazon expanded warehouses for home delivery and restaurants bought heaters for outdoor seating areas.

Manufacturing output posts gains

Manufacturing production rose 2.7% in March, recovering just part of the weather-related 3.7% drop in February, Federal Reserve figures show. Generally, manufacturing has more than rebounded from its pandemic lows as factories meet consumer demand for electronics and other goods in the home-centered economy. That’s likely to shift somewhat in the coming months as the reopening economy drives consumer purchases to services, like dining out, Oxford Economics says.

Manufacturing also has been held back recently by pandemic-related supply-chain constraints, Barclays says. Some factories are still slowed by COVID-19-related worker absences, piled-up shipping containers at ports and chip shortages.

Stock market rises 24% since election

Since Biden was elected Nov. 3, the Standard & Poor’s 500 index is up 24% after hitting a record 4,187 at Monday's close. The broad market index was already on a tear and has soared 87% since hitting its nadir in March 2020, shortly after the pandemic first upended the economy.

Initially, stocks rebounded much faster than the economy, driven by tech companies such as Apple and Amazon that were thriving in the new stay-at-home reality. Since late last year, growing vaccinations and the prospect of a reopening economy have juiced the market, a dynamic Biden has stoked with more stimulus and widespread COVID-19 shots.

/While Biden’s proposed capital gains tax increase spooked investors last week, stocks have since rebounded. Biden will almost certainly reach a compromise on a tax increase with Senate Republicans that’s more palatable to investors, Baumohl says.

TOP ILLUSTRATION: Janet Loehrke, USA TODAY

SOURCE USA TODAY Network reporting and research

Published 12:01 AM EDT Apr. 28, 2021 Updated 1:52 PM EDT Apr. 29, 2021   will he be considered the greatest president ever?????? time will tell.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
           How U.S. economy has performed during Biden's first 100 days – in 7 charts
The economy seems to be accelerating, with stepped-up vaccinations and more stimulus. That's burnishing Biden's record in his first 100 days.
Paul Davidson and George Petras, USA TODAY
Published 12:01 AM EDT Apr. 28, 2021 Updated 1:52 PM EDT Apr. 29, 2021


Biden signs $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill
Marking a year of loss and disruption, President Joe Biden on Thursday signed into law the $1.9 trillion relief package that he says will help the U.S. defeat the coronavirus and nurse the economy back to health. (March 11)
AP
If the most telling scorecard of a U.S. presidency is the economy, then President Joe Biden deserves high marks for his first 100 days.

It’s a small sample, of course – featuring data for just a couple of months – but measures of job growth and retail sales pointed to a booming economy in March. And analysts say that’s likely just the beginning of a historically robust year.

Much of the surge can be traced to growing COVID-19 vaccinations – with 40% of the population having received at least one shot, according to Goldman Sachs – a leveling off of virus cases, and the lifting of business restrictions in many states. And don’t forget the nearly $4 trillion in Congress’s COVID-19 relief packages, including $1,800 per person in stimulus checks sent to most Americans through December.

In other words, the economy was on track to bust out even before Biden moved into the White House.

Richard Moody, chief economist, Regions Financial
Just the economy reopening would go a long way toward healing the wounds.
“Just the economy reopening would go a long way toward healing the wounds,” says Richard Moody, chief economist of Regions Financial.


Yet under Biden, the vaccine rollout has been faster than expected at more than 3 million shots a day the past couple of weeks.

“Biden gets props for getting the vaccine process sped up,” Moody says.

He also spearheaded the latest $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief package, passed by Congress in March, that includes another round of $1,400 stimulus checks. The Treasury Department says it has disbursed 161 million of those payments totaling $379 billion. All told, Americans are flush with an additional $2.4 trillion that they’ve squirreled way during the outbreak and they’re ready to spend much of it just as the economy is getting back on its feet. 

Put simply, the president helped put a strong recovery on steroids.

Bernard Baumohi, chief economist, Economic Outlook Group
We can give Biden credit for improving consumer and business confidence.
“We can give Biden credit for improving consumer and business confidence,” says Bernard Baumohl, chief economist of the Economic Outlook Group.

There are still risks, including the possibility of COVID-19 spikes that outpace vaccinations. Another hindrance could be the supply-chain delays, including chip shortages, that have hobbled manufacturers and undermined sales of cars, smartphones and other products.

Biden may toss some cold water on the hot economy. Bloomberg reported late last week that the White House will propose a sharp hike in the capital gains tax to pay for his proposed social service programs, driving down a roaring Dow Jones industrial average by 321 points.

With a portrait of former President Abraham Lincoln behind him, President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dining Room of the White House, on Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington.
With a portrait of former President Abraham Lincoln behind him, President Joe Biden speaks about the economy in the State Dining Room of the White House, on Feb. 5, 2021, in Washington.
ALEX BRANDON, AP
But most economic gauges have pointed up during Biden’s first hundred days. Here’s a look:

Nearly 1M jobs added in March

U.S. employers added 460,000 jobs in February and 916,000 in March, cutting short what was supposed to be a dark winter for the economy after 306,000 job losses in December. Nearly half the gains were in leisure and hospitality, which was decimated by the health crisis and includes restaurants, bars and hotels. The U.S. has recovered 13.9 million, or 62%, of the 22.4 million jobs lost last spring as eateries and other businesses shuttered by the outbreak have reopened or increased capacity limits, Labor Department figures show.

“A faster vaccine rollout and further fiscal stimulus have accelerated activity,” Morgan Stanley wrote in a note to clients.

Moody expects more than 1 million job gains each month this spring and a return to the pre-COVID-19 employment level sometime next year.

Morgan Stanley expects the economy to grow 7.5% this year – most since 1984 – and Oxford Economics forecasts a record 7 million job gains.

The crisis will leave scars. More than 4 million Americans have been jobless six months or longer, reducing their chances of getting rehired. And about 4 million people have stopped working or looking for jobs because they’re discouraged, caring for kids or sick relatives, or other reasons.

Retail sales jump


Total retail sales leaped 9.8% in March – the most since last May – after dipping in February amid severe storms, particularly in Texas and other Southern states. Barclays credits the latest round of stimulus checks as well as reopenings in several states and a snapback following February’s weather-related pullback.

The blockbuster sales lifted a broad range of categories, including physical stores pummeled by the pandemic. Sales climbed 23.5% at sporting goods, music and book stores; 18.3% at clothing outlets; 13% at department stores; and 13.4% at restaurants and bars, according to the Census Bureau.

Retail sales overall are now 17% above their pre-pandemic level. The strong report led Morgan Stanley to raise its forecast for consumer spending growth in the first quarter to 10.6%. It upgraded its estimate for first-quarter economic growth to 9.7%.

Consumer confidence surges

After falling to a six-year low in April 2020, consumer confidence surged the past couple of months as stimulus checks flooded bank accounts, and it’s now modestly below its pre-pandemic level. Americans’ view of both present conditions and their expectations for the next six months brightened.

Fourteen percent of those surveyed plan to buy a car in the next six months, up from 10.2% in February, and 8.9% intend to buy a home, up from 6%, according to the Conference Board.

Housing starts rise 19% in March

The housing market has been the economy’s biggest bright spot during the pandemic as Americans stuck at home have bought bigger houses, often fleeing dense urban areas for the suburbs. That has continued since Biden took office despite mortgage rates that have edged higher. In March, housing starts jumped 19.4% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.74 million, highest since 2006, Census data shows.

Business investment stays strong

Free-spending consumers are prodding companies to expand and buy new machines and other goods to meet demand. A core reading of business orders for long-lasting goods such as computers and factory equipment that's tantamount to capital spending rose 0.9% in March after dropping in February amid the harsh weather, Census said. Overall, business spending has rocketed higher since last spring and is 10.4% above the pre-crisis mark. The work-at-home market triggered a flurry of tech-related spending, Amazon expanded warehouses for home delivery and restaurants bought heaters for outdoor seating areas.

Manufacturing output posts gains

Manufacturing production rose 2.7% in March, recovering just part of the weather-related 3.7% drop in February, Federal Reserve figures show. Generally, manufacturing has more than rebounded from its pandemic lows as factories meet consumer demand for electronics and other goods in the home-centered economy. That’s likely to shift somewhat in the coming months as the reopening economy drives consumer purchases to services, like dining out, Oxford Economics says.

Manufacturing also has been held back recently by pandemic-related supply-chain constraints, Barclays says. Some factories are still slowed by COVID-19-related worker absences, piled-up shipping containers at ports and chip shortages.

Stock market rises 24% since election

Since Biden was elected Nov. 3, the Standard & Poor’s 500 index is up 24% after hitting a record 4,187 at Monday's close. The broad market index was already on a tear and has soared 87% since hitting its nadir in March 2020, shortly after the pandemic first upended the economy.

Initially, stocks rebounded much faster than the economy, driven by tech companies such as Apple and Amazon that were thriving in the new stay-at-home reality. Since late last year, growing vaccinations and the prospect of a reopening economy have juiced the market, a dynamic Biden has stoked with more stimulus and widespread COVID-19 shots.

/While Biden’s proposed capital gains tax increase spooked investors last week, stocks have since rebounded. Biden will almost certainly reach a compromise on a tax increase with Senate Republicans that’s more palatable to investors, Baumohl says.

TOP ILLUSTRATION: Janet Loehrke, USA TODAY

SOURCE USA TODAY Network reporting and research

Published 12:01 AM EDT Apr. 28, 2021 Updated 1:52 PM EDT Apr. 29, 2021   will he be considered the greatest president ever?????? time will tell.
               
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 01:32:29 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 01:33:41 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2021, 01:34:43 PM
JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!

The only jobs RAPIST JOE BIDEN created were in China.

Inflation is soaring, Janet Yellen is a puppet, and the RAPIST JOE BIDEN doesn’t even know what day it is. The POTUS’s own staff are not allowing THE RAPIST to answer questions in public.

THE FAILED BIDEN ADMINISTRATION!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 07, 2021, 01:54:27 PM
JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!

The only jobs RAPIST JOE BIDEN created were in China.

Inflation is soaring, Janet Yellen is a puppet, and the RAPIST JOE BIDEN doesn’t even know what day it is. The POTUS’s own staff are not allowing THE RAPIST to answer questions in public.

THE FAILED BIDEN ADMINISTRATION!
     
               
&t=8s         was you raped by him walter,  is that why you hate him so.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on May 07, 2021, 02:09:41 PM
52!

If it gets to 72, there will be more pages than votes in the poll!!  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 07, 2021, 03:14:14 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/04/carters-bidens-photo-georgia-giant/ .

Real, in the US, lots of people were trying to figure it out. The above article is the best one explaining some of it.

Many people do shrink with age. I am at least 2" shorter than I was at my tallest. What doesn't shrink are our heads. The Carter's heads look tiny....something is screwy with the photo, IMO.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 07, 2021, 03:53:03 PM
I wonder what Matt C's cock will measure 20 years from now?  Will it dip below the hallowed 6" mark?  Or stay north of 6?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 07, 2021, 04:04:52 PM
I wonder what Matt C's cock will measure 20 years from now?  Will it dip below the hallowed 6" mark?  Or stay north of 6?

Why do you wonder this?





Just kidding!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2021, 04:05:44 PM
Is that your new conspiracy theory?  Who's running things?  The guy with the fake birth certificate in the pizza shop basement who does covid assassinations in his spare time?

Lol...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jen-psaki-joe-biden-reporter-questions-press-david-axelrod-cnn
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2021, 04:10:38 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2021, 04:19:59 PM
“The April jobs report released on Friday shocked the nation, which saw just 266,000 jobs created and a rise in unemployment after economists expected roughly 1 million jobs to be created amid the country's economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.“

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A LIBERAL RAPIST PUPPET IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

The Great Biden Recession is officially underway.

NEVER TRUST A SENILE RAPIST WITH THE ECONOMY!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2021, 05:22:40 PM
Yes...how about those jobs numbers? I want to hear from the Biden voting economic geniuses
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 07, 2021, 05:31:10 PM
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is begging Sleepy Joe to stop the endless stimmies because it is destroying the low skills workforce.

Problem is the very same Chamber has been endorsing dems who want a wokeforce.






Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2021, 05:37:46 PM
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is begging Sleepy Joe to stop the endless stimmies because it is destroying the low skills workforce.

Problem is the very same Chamber has been endorsing dems who want a wokeforce.

Oh no... I hope they put together another $2 trillion green new.....er, I mean “Covid” relief package.




















Told you so
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 08, 2021, 05:34:09 AM
   
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 08, 2021, 07:56:44 AM
   
   


TDS.

Sad old libs...Trump/Russia dis-proven 2x in public = RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA

Hunter's laptop...hidden and protected...ill shit he did all over the world is obvious blackmail material for his father = nothing to see here..."recovering" addict victim, etc.


 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 08, 2021, 01:52:22 PM

TDS.

Sad old libs...Trump/Russia dis-proven 2x in public = RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA

Hunter's laptop...hidden and protected...ill shit he did all over the world is obvious blackmail material for his father = nothing to see here..."recovering" addict victim, etc.


 ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 08, 2021, 02:04:08 PM
54 !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 08, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
Funk falling right in line with the rest of the sheep.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 08, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Funk falling right in line with the rest of the sheep.

I don't pretend to understand TDS but it disgusts me all the same.  Biden is a fuckwit and so too is his family. His son is a creepy ass pervert.  The turd doesn't plop far from the anus.

If  someone hates our Nation this much then they should just get the fuck out and go to islime cuntries where they will be welcomed with the opening of their anus.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2021, 03:04:35 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 08, 2021, 03:31:54 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2021, 03:51:27 PM
   


TDS....Doesn't a have crackhead for a son who sold his fathers VP seat
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 08, 2021, 04:38:51 PM
   


Super HOT Melania  :-* :-* :-*

Poor OLD funk41 is jealous @ 88  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 08, 2021, 07:57:27 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)   



Way to use a picture of the Biden twins from 10 + years ago. How are they ACTUALLY looking these days?


(https://www.thesouthafrican.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hunter-biden-memoir-1200x800.jpg.optimal.jpg)


(https://res.feednews.com/assets/v2/fdd1330e449933c9c2b5043b566f41f1?width=1280&height=720&quality=hq&category=us_News_Politics)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: wordy on May 09, 2021, 01:30:22 AM
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BDS.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2021, 06:40:40 AM
Super HOT Melania  :-* :-* :-*

Poor OLD funk41 is jealous @ 88  ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  that's your takeaway from all this. imagine if this would have been michelle obama or hillary clinton in these photos then you would be outraged and disgusted...I'd be with you on the disgusted part though :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 09, 2021, 07:57:09 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  that's your takeaway from all this. imagine if this would have been michelle obama or hillary clinton in these photos then you would be outraged and disgusted...I'd be with you on the disgusted part though :D :D :D



If you are outraged looking at Melania in a bikini you have larger issues than TDS.   :-\

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 09, 2021, 08:38:02 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  that's your takeaway from all this. imagine if this would have been michelle obama or hillary clinton in these photos then you would be outraged and disgusted...I'd be with you on the disgusted part though :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
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  ha ha ha the penisaurus pic , I always thought she was really a dude. she flunked the finger test
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2021, 10:49:17 AM


If you are outraged looking at Melania in a bikini you have larger issues than TDS.   :-\
   I don't really care or get outraged. I'm saying the shit storm that would be created if either michelle o or hillary c appeared like this as first lady. I've got no problem viewing melania.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 09, 2021, 11:05:38 AM
   I don't really care or get outraged. I'm saying the shit storm that would be created if either michelle o or hillary c appeared like this as first lady. I've got no problem viewing melania.
Ones an Orangutan, one is the ugliest and most prolific serial killer in history, shit-face storm would be deserved.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 09, 2021, 02:04:39 PM
   I don't really care or get outraged. I'm saying the shit storm that would be created if either michelle o or hillary c appeared like this as first lady. I've got no problem viewing melania.
What period of time between 2016-2020 did Melania pose like that? Go ahead and post up some pics of Obama or Clinton in bikinis from BEFORE they were a side piece for a man in power.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 09, 2021, 02:47:26 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  that's your takeaway from all this. imagine if this would have been michelle obama or hillary clinton in these photos then you would be outraged and disgusted...I'd be with you on the disgusted part though :D :D :D


Old man, I live on the beach & can't imagine life without girls in G-string/topless ................you are so prehistoric !.

Keep bikini images of M. & H. just for yourself !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 09, 2021, 02:57:54 PM
   I don't really care or get outraged. I'm saying the shit storm that would be created if either michelle o or hillary c appeared like this as first lady. I've got no problem viewing melania.


POST more images of MELANIA , World  :-* :-* :-* her !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 09, 2021, 07:39:10 PM
More good news

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9559897/Utah-county-CENSURES-Mitt-Romney-voting-impeach-Trump-state-tried-failed-same.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 09, 2021, 07:58:14 PM
More good news

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9559897/Utah-county-CENSURES-Mitt-Romney-voting-impeach-Trump-state-tried-failed-same.html

Romney the RINO.  Fuck that wholeass to Hades.  He is a traitor to civilization. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 09, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/03/joe-biden-takes-94-executive-actions-immigration-100-days/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 10, 2021, 12:31:20 AM
"But, but, but racist"
But, but, but, gold digger".
But, but, we love Trannies".

"Name a few things libtards say in ever argument ever" for $500.00.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 07:27:51 AM
Why Republican voters say there’s ‘no way in hell’ Trump lost





SUNDOWN, Texas (Reuters) - Brett Fryar is a middle-class Republican. A 50-year-old chiropractor in this west Texas town, he owns a small business. He has two undergraduate degrees and a master’s degree, in organic chemistry. He attends Southcrest Baptist Church in nearby Lubbock.


FILE PHOTO: The U.S. Capitol building is visible as thousands of people participate in rallies in support of U.S. President Trump in Washington, U.S., November 14, 2020. REUTERS/Leah Millis/File Photo
Fryar didn’t much like Donald Trump at first, during the U.S. president’s 2016 campaign. He voted for Texas Senator Ted Cruz in the Republican primaries.

Now, Fryar says he would go to war for Trump. He has joined the newly formed South Plains Patriots, a group of a few hundred members that includes a “reactionary” force of about three dozen - including Fryar and his son, Caleb - who conduct firearms training.

Nothing will convince Fryar and many others here in Sundown - including the town’s mayor, another Patriots member - that Democrat Joe Biden won the Nov. 3 presidential election fairly. They believe Trump’s stream of election-fraud allegations and say they’re preparing for the possibility of a “civil war” with the American political left.

“If President Trump comes out and says: ‘Guys, I have irrefutable proof of fraud, the courts won’t listen, and I’m now calling on Americans to take up arms,’ we would go,” said Fryar, wearing a button-down shirt, pressed slacks and a paisley tie during a recent interview at his office.

The unshakable trust in Trump in this town of about 1,400 residents reflects a national phenomenon among many Republicans, despite the absence of evidence in a barrage of post-election lawsuits by the president and his allies. About half of Republicans polled by Reuters/Ipsos said Trump “rightfully won” the election but had it stolen from him in systemic fraud favoring Biden, according to a survey conducted between Nov. 13 and 17. Just 29% of Republicans said Biden rightfully won. Other polls since the election have reported that an even higher proportion - up to 80% - of Republicans trust Trump’s baseless fraud narrative.

Trump’s legal onslaught has so far flopped, with judges quickly dismissing many cases and his lawyers dropping or withdrawing from others. None of the cases contain allegations - much less evidence - that are likely to invalidate enough votes to overturn the election, election experts say.

And yet the election-theft claims are proving politically potent. All but a handful of Republican lawmakers have backed Trump’s fraud claims or stayed silent, effectively freezing the transition of power as the president refuses to concede. Trump has succeeded in sowing further public distrust in the media, which typically calls elections, and undermined citizens’ faith in the state and local election officials who underpin American democracy.

In Reuters interviews with 50 Trump voters, all said they believed the election was rigged or in some way illegitimate. Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly. Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims. Some have boycotted Fox News out of anger that the network called Biden the election winner and that some of its news anchors - in contrast to its opinion show stars - have been skeptical of Trump’s fraud allegations.

“I just sent Fox News an email,” Fryar said, telling the network: “You’re the only news I’ve watched for the last six years, but I will not watch you anymore.”

The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. The trend has deeply troubling long-term implications for American political and civic institutions, said Paul Light, a veteran political scientist at New York University (NYU).

“This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

Adam Kinzinger, a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives, is among the few party members to publicly recognize Biden’s victory. He called his Republican colleagues’ reluctance to reject Trump’s conspiracies a failure of political courage that threatens to undermine American democracy for years. If citizens lose faith in election integrity, that could lead to “really bad things,” including violence and social unrest, he said in an interview.

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign. The party, the person said, is setting up a push for “far more stringent oversight on voting procedures in 2024,” when the party’s nominee will likely be Trump or his anointed successor.

Other Republicans urged patience and faith in the government. Charlie Black, a veteran Republican strategist, does not believe Republican lawmakers will continue backing Trump’s fraud claims after Biden is inaugurated. They will need White House cooperation on basic government functions, such as appropriations and defense bills, he said.

“People will come to see we still have a functioning government,” Black said, and Republicans will become “resigned to Biden, and see it’s not the end of the world.”

The Biden campaign declined to comment for this story. Boris Epshteyn, a strategic advisor to the Trump campaign, said: “The President and his campaign are confident that when every legal vote is counted, and every illegal vote is not, it will be determined that President Trump has won re-election to a second term.”


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‘THERE’S JUST NO WAY’

Media outlets declared Biden the election winner on Nov. 7. As calls were finalized in battleground states, Biden’s lead in the Electoral College that decides the presidency widened to 306 to 232. (For a graphic explaining the electoral college, see: tmsnrt.rs/38VTUvK )

Many Republican voters scoff at those results, convinced Trump was cheated. Raymond Fontaine, a hardware store owner in Oakville, Connecticut, said Biden’s vote total - the highest of any presidential candidate in history - makes no sense because the 78-year-old Democrat made relatively few campaign appearances and seemed to be in mental decline.

“You are going to tell me 77 million Americans voted for him? There is just no way,” said Fontaine, 50.

The latest popular vote total for Biden has grown to about 79 million, compared to some 73 million for Trump.

Like many Trump supporters interviewed by Reuters, Fontaine was deeply suspicious of computerized voting machines. Trump and his allies have alleged, without producing evidence, a grand conspiracy to manipulate votes through the software used in many battleground states.

In Grant County, West Virginia - a mountainous region where more than 88% of voters backed the president - trust in Trump runs deep. Janet Hedrick, co-owner of the Smoke Hole Caverns log cabin resort in the small town of Cabins, said she would never accept Biden as a legitimate president.

“There’s millions and millions of Trump votes that were just thrown out,” said Hedrick, 70, a retired teacher and librarian. “That computer was throwing them out.”

At the Sunset Restaurant in Moorefield, West Virginia - a diner featuring omelettes, hotcakes and waitresses who remember your order - a mention of the election sparked a spirited discussion at one table. Gene See, a retired highway construction inspector, and Bob Hyson, a semi-retired insurance sales manager, said Trump had been cheated, that Biden had dementia and that Democrats planned all along to quickly replace Biden with his more liberal running mate for vice president, Kamala Harris.

“I think if they ever get to the bottom of it, they will find massive fraud,” said another of the diners, Larry Kessel, a 67-year-old farmer.

Kessel’s wife, Jane, patted him on the arm, trying to calm him, as he grew agitated while railing against anti-Trump media bias.

Trump’s rage against the media has lately included rants against Fox News. He has pushed his supporters towards more right-wing outlets such as Newsmax and One America News Network, which have championed the president’s fraud claims.

Rory Wells, 51, a New Jersey lawyer who attended a pro-Trump “stop the steal” election protest in Trenton last week, said he now watches Newsmax because Fox isn’t sufficiently conservative.

“I like that I get to hear from Rudy Giuliani and others who are not immediately discounted as being crazy,” he said of Trump’s lead election lawyer.

Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy said the network’s viewership has exploded since the election, with nearly 3 million viewers nightly via cable television and streaming video devices.

Ruddy said Newsmax isn’t saying that Biden stole the election - but they’re also not calling him the winner given that Trump has valid legal claims. “The same media who said Biden would win in a landslide now want to not have recounts,” he said in a phone interview.

Charles Herring, president of One America News Network, said in a statement that his network has seen three weeks of record ratings, as “frustrated Fox News viewers” have tuned in.

‘NO WAY IN HELL’

Some Trump supporters said they would accept Biden as the winner if that is the final, official result. Janel Henritz, 36, echoed some others in saying that she believed the election included fraud, but perhaps not enough to change the outcome. Henritz, who works alongside her mother Janet Hedrick at their log cabin resort in West Virginia, said she would accept the outcome if Biden remains the winner after recounts and court challenges.

“Then he won fair and square,” she said.

In Sundown, Texas, Mayor Jonathan Strickland said there’s “no way in hell” Biden won fairly. The only way he’ll believe it, he said, is if Trump himself says so.

“Trump is the only one we’ve been able to trust for the last four years,” said Strickland, an oilfield production engineer. “As far as the civil war goes, I don’t think it’s off the table.”

If it comes to a fight, Caleb Fryar is ready. But the 26-year-old son of Brett Fryar, the chiropractor, said he hoped Trump’s fraud allegations would instead spark a massive mobilization of Republican voters in future elections.

Asked whether Trump might be duping his followers, he said it’s hard to fathom.

“If I’m being manipulated by Trump ... then he is the greatest con man that ever lived in America,” Caleb Fryar said. “I think he’s the greatest patriot that ever lived.”

(This story corrects to delete reference in first paragraph to Brett Fryar teaching Sunday school and bible studies at Southcrest Baptist Church. He taught those classes at another church.)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2021, 07:35:26 AM
How's that wall coming along?  Oh that's right...  3 guys behind the fundraiser for it have been indicted and charged for defrauding the Trump morons out of their money for this crap.  Well, it was 4 guys being indicted and charged, but Trumpy pardoned his buddy Bannon and left the other supporters blowing in the wind.  Surprise.  (not).
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 11, 2021, 09:32:31 AM
How's that wall coming along?  Oh that's right...  3 guys behind the fundraiser for it have been indicted and charged for defrauding the Trump morons out of their money for this crap.  Well, it was 4 guys being indicted and charged, but Trumpy pardoned his buddy Bannon and left the other supporters blowing in the wind.  Surprise.  (not).

Like funk, you and Strawman come up with the most irrelevant bullshit 🙄
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 09:45:00 AM
Like funk, you and Strawman come up with the most irrelevant bullshit 🙄
    http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=672321.0
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 11, 2021, 02:29:02 PM
Like funk, you and Strawman come up with the most irrelevant bullshit 🙄


 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2021, 03:29:27 PM
Like funk, you and Strawman come up with the most irrelevant bullshit 🙄

Says the midget birther.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 11, 2021, 03:53:40 PM
55.    Let’s go !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 12, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.daybydaycartoon.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F02%2F021419-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 10:41:59 AM
Says the midget birther.


Name calling like Straw when he's losing the argument.

#2
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 10:47:55 AM
From Newsmax - Biden Pitching $4.1T Spending: 'Snap My Fingers, It Will Happen'

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1021139/16
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 10:49:00 AM
And it only took 4 months

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-israel-mexican-border-colonial-pipeline
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 11:02:46 AM
Joe Biden, the phantom president, gave a speech recently that the world immediately little noted nor long remembered.

For the doddering, barely ambulatory, linguistically challenged Biden, his first address to Congress was intended as a substitute State of the Union speech, but like everything else he does, it fell as flat as he nearly did when scrambling up the steps of Air Force One back in March

So let me help our poor president out: the state of the union is terrible, and getting worse. Examples abound:

Russian hackers apparently just took out one of the most important pipelines on the East Coast, and it’s taken the administration more than a day to respond to this direct assault on our national security. But what’s the rush? The anti-American “progressive” left hates the oil industry anyway and is busy plotting an oil-and-carbon-free future for Grass Hut America, so overall, it’s a net plus!

The American birthrate has now fallen for six years in a row, to a record-low 1.64 babies per woman. Some blame this on the dreaded COVID, but it would make more sense for births to rise, given that couples have had more than a year of snuggle time while riding out the “pandemic” and collecting government checks.

A more likely reason is the non-stop barrage of propaganda from the anti-human left, whose refrain has long been “how can you bring a child into this world?”—a world, by the way, they’ve been doing their best to ruin for more than half a century with abortion, divorce, and latterly, child sex-change operations.

Speaking of COVID—caused by the CCP virus, which most independent authorities now agree could have been hatched in a lab in Wuhan—the practically state-run media is now openly fretting that vaccination rates are leveling off as Americans begin to ask themselves whether they want to voluntarily take part in the biggest real-time laboratory experiment in history.

And now, the FDA has authorized the Pfizer vaccine for use on children aged 12-15—a group that is essentially immune to COVID-19 anyway, while Washington—in collaboration, National-Socialist-style, with its media, tech, and corporate lackeys—will soon turn to vaccine passports, brothers under the skin of the old Soviet system of internal passports.

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday authorized use of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for 12- to 15-year-olds in the United States, a crucial step in the nation’s steady recovery from the pandemic and a boon to tens of millions of American families eager for a return to normalcy,” cheered The New York Times, the American equivalent of the USSR’s mouthpiece/newspaper Pravda.

Around the country, especially in Democratic-dominated states, “homeless” encampments have sprouted like kudzu. The famed Venice Beach in Los Angeles now resembles the anarchic opening “Dawn of Man” scene from Stanley Kubrick’s film, “2001: A Space Odyssey,” with vagrants, derelicts, and hobos viciously attacking and beating residents and each other.

Meanwhile, across town in Angelino Heights, work crews just removed more than 35 tons of human biological and hazardous waste from Echo Park Lake and its surrounding park, which is similarly bristling with brand-new tents and, no doubt, cell phones.

Meanwhile, “anti-racism” mania has now turned its sights on technology and discovered “techno-racism”—an unwitting and unintended discrimination against “people of color” that is, according to CNN, “baked into some of the technology we encounter every day.” The reference is to the difficulty some facial-recognition systems encounter in distinguishing between and among black faces.

Even when tech developers and users do not intend for tech to discriminate, it often does so anyway,” says one critic. “Technology is not neutral or objective.

On the foreign-policy front, Russia is about to gobble up whichever bits of Ukraine it still desires, the communist Chinese just had a chunk of space debris crash-land in the Indian Ocean, and the manifestly unqualified Vice President Kamala Harris, has thus far managed to foul up the one job she has: the entirely Biden-made crisis at the U.S.–Mexico border.

In short, things are coming apart and there’s no help in sight.

In 1920, just after World War I had come to an end, the Irish poet William Butler Yeats published what is likely his most famous poem, “The Second Coming.” To a shell-shocked populace stunned by four years of brutal slaughter, the world had indeed spun out of control:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

That could well describe our world today. The worst—the international, cultural-Marxist left—are indeed full of passionate intensity: an intensity fixated on destroying the old order “by any means necessary,” as their favorite saying goes.

In the half-century I’ve been interacting with them, they have pulled down the pillars of the American nation-state, wielding our own laws, customs, and Constitution against us.

Mere anarchy,” indeed.

But anarchy is what they’re after, and always have been. One by one, they’ve eroded or even abolished constitutional protections such as freedom of speech, religion, and assembly found in the first amendment.

They’re publicly gunning for the Second Amendment now, and over the course of the post-FDR period have rendered the Ninth and 10th Amendments (which were intended to establish expressed powers/limited government) as nullities.

Now, in a capital still ringed by barbed wire, a confused old man sits at a desk signing “executive orders” designed to overturn any vestiges of his predecessor—whose aim, you may recall, was to “Make America Great Again.” The economy boomed, the nation became energy self-sufficient, race relations had at least stabilized, the Middle East was moving toward stasis, and both the Russians and the Chinese were under no illusions about our international intentions.

And then came the election and huge blunder of Jan. 6, and it all vanished. Well, as they say, elections have consequences.

Surely, the Second Coming is at hand,” writes Yeats in the second stanza of his great poem. But be careful what you wish for: “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last / Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”

If you thought Biden’s first 100 days were bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on May 12, 2021, 11:15:35 AM
⚪️
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2021, 11:30:19 AM
On to 55 !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 11:35:07 AM
On to 55 !

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 11:55:44 AM


I commented on this... hypocrite
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 11:57:31 AM
Lol...the world is burning within 4 months of Biden being “President” and straw, Funk, Lurker and Prime are still talking about Trump hhahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2021, 11:58:46 AM
 ;D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
Socialist shortages and hyperinflation for everyone, equally.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:19:59 PM
Joe Biden, the phantom president, gave a speech recently that the world immediately little noted nor long remembered.

For the doddering, barely ambulatory, linguistically challenged Biden, his first address to Congress was intended as a substitute State of the Union speech, but like everything else he does, it fell as flat as he nearly did when scrambling up the steps of Air Force One back in March

So let me help our poor president out: the state of the union is terrible, and getting worse. Examples abound:

Russian hackers apparently just took out one of the most important pipelines on the East Coast, and it’s taken the administration more than a day to respond to this direct assault on our national security. But what’s the rush? The anti-American “progressive” left hates the oil industry anyway and is busy plotting an oil-and-carbon-free future for Grass Hut America, so overall, it’s a net plus!

The American birthrate has now fallen for six years in a row, to a record-low 1.64 babies per woman. Some blame this on the dreaded COVID, but it would make more sense for births to rise, given that couples have had more than a year of snuggle time while riding out the “pandemic” and collecting government checks.

A more likely reason is the non-stop barrage of propaganda from the anti-human left, whose refrain has long been “how can you bring a child into this world?”—a world, by the way, they’ve been doing their best to ruin for more than half a century with abortion, divorce, and latterly, child sex-change operations.

Speaking of COVID—caused by the CCP virus, which most independent authorities now agree could have been hatched in a lab in Wuhan—the practically state-run media is now openly fretting that vaccination rates are leveling off as Americans begin to ask themselves whether they want to voluntarily take part in the biggest real-time laboratory experiment in history.

And now, the FDA has authorized the Pfizer vaccine for use on children aged 12-15—a group that is essentially immune to COVID-19 anyway, while Washington—in collaboration, National-Socialist-style, with its media, tech, and corporate lackeys—will soon turn to vaccine passports, brothers under the skin of the old Soviet system of internal passports.

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday authorized use of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for 12- to 15-year-olds in the United States, a crucial step in the nation’s steady recovery from the pandemic and a boon to tens of millions of American families eager for a return to normalcy,” cheered The New York Times, the American equivalent of the USSR’s mouthpiece/newspaper Pravda.

Around the country, especially in Democratic-dominated states, “homeless” encampments have sprouted like kudzu. The famed Venice Beach in Los Angeles now resembles the anarchic opening “Dawn of Man” scene from Stanley Kubrick’s film, “2001: A Space Odyssey,” with vagrants, derelicts, and hobos viciously attacking and beating residents and each other.

Meanwhile, across town in Angelino Heights, work crews just removed more than 35 tons of human biological and hazardous waste from Echo Park Lake and its surrounding park, which is similarly bristling with brand-new tents and, no doubt, cell phones.

Meanwhile, “anti-racism” mania has now turned its sights on technology and discovered “techno-racism”—an unwitting and unintended discrimination against “people of color” that is, according to CNN, “baked into some of the technology we encounter every day.” The reference is to the difficulty some facial-recognition systems encounter in distinguishing between and among black faces.

Even when tech developers and users do not intend for tech to discriminate, it often does so anyway,” says one critic. “Technology is not neutral or objective.

On the foreign-policy front, Russia is about to gobble up whichever bits of Ukraine it still desires, the communist Chinese just had a chunk of space debris crash-land in the Indian Ocean, and the manifestly unqualified Vice President Kamala Harris, has thus far managed to foul up the one job she has: the entirely Biden-made crisis at the U.S.–Mexico border.

In short, things are coming apart and there’s no help in sight.

In 1920, just after World War I had come to an end, the Irish poet William Butler Yeats published what is likely his most famous poem, “The Second Coming.” To a shell-shocked populace stunned by four years of brutal slaughter, the world had indeed spun out of control:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

That could well describe our world today. The worst—the international, cultural-Marxist left—are indeed full of passionate intensity: an intensity fixated on destroying the old order “by any means necessary,” as their favorite saying goes.

In the half-century I’ve been interacting with them, they have pulled down the pillars of the American nation-state, wielding our own laws, customs, and Constitution against us.

Mere anarchy,” indeed.

But anarchy is what they’re after, and always have been. One by one, they’ve eroded or even abolished constitutional protections such as freedom of speech, religion, and assembly found in the first amendment.

They’re publicly gunning for the Second Amendment now, and over the course of the post-FDR period have rendered the Ninth and 10th Amendments (which were intended to establish expressed powers/limited government) as nullities.

Now, in a capital still ringed by barbed wire, a confused old man sits at a desk signing “executive orders” designed to overturn any vestiges of his predecessor—whose aim, you may recall, was to “Make America Great Again.” The economy boomed, the nation became energy self-sufficient, race relations had at least stabilized, the Middle East was moving toward stasis, and both the Russians and the Chinese were under no illusions about our international intentions.

And then came the election and huge blunder of Jan. 6, and it all vanished. Well, as they say, elections have consequences.

Surely, the Second Coming is at hand,” writes Yeats in the second stanza of his great poem. But be careful what you wish for: “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last / Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”

If you thought Biden’s first 100 days were bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 12:21:14 PM
;D

Nah....we just told you so. I told you I’d also be laughing my ass off 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 12, 2021, 01:06:37 PM
Nah....we just told you so. I told you I’d also be laughing my ass off 😂😂😂


For someone "laughing" you sure are doing a lot of whining and crying.  But that's how Fragile X syndrome works doesn't it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 01:10:52 PM
I commented on this... hypocrite

who gives a shit

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 01:22:08 PM
Lol...the world is burning within 4 months of Biden being “President” and straw, Funk, Lurker and Prime are still talking about Trump hhahahahahahaha

Like you don't talk about him? My guess is you mention him much more often than I do. I couldn't care less about that loser.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 03:03:52 PM
Like you don't talk about him? My guess is you mention him much more often than I do. I couldn't care less about that loser.

So you’re happy with what Biden’s doing now? 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 03:29:45 PM
So you’re happy with what Biden’s doing now? 🤣

I believe I covered that earlier today in another thread. But, I'm okay with Biden's performance thus far.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 03:40:39 PM
I believe I covered that earlier today in another thread. But, I'm okay with Biden's performance thus far.

If you’re happy with this then either you’re lying or in the wrong country. No lie

l
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 03:48:22 PM
I believe I covered that earlier today in another thread. But, I'm okay with Biden's performance thus far.

So you’re good with this? Explain please

From Newsmax - Biden Pitching $4.1T Spending: 'Snap My Fingers, It Will Happen'

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1021139/1
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
If you’re happy with this then either you’re lying or in the wrong country. No lie

Or because you are so unhappy, it is you who is in the wrong country. People who are happy, tend to stay put. No lie.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 03:54:18 PM
Or because you are so unhappy, it is you who is in the wrong country. People who are happy, tend to stay put. No lie.

I was happy with it but knew as soon as Biden got in he’d fuck it up just didn’t realize it would be this fast. I put partial blame on you..the ones who actually voted for this cluster fuck because you literally had ZERO idea what was coming. He is, with no exaggeration, fucking up ever sector of this country....and we warned you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
I was happy with it but knew as soon as Biden got in he’d fuck it up just didn’t realize it would be this fast. I put partial blame on you..the ones who actually voted for this cluster fuck because you literally had ZERO idea what was coming. He is, with no exaggeration, fucking up ever sector of this country....and we warned you.

Thanks for making clear how you feel and what you believe. The point is, according to you, you are unhappy with the present state of affairs in the U.S. and therefore you should go someplace where you'll be happier. Where would that be? My guess is nowhere because you don't come across as someone capable of happiness.

What did you warn me about? Did you warn me that I would be mostly agreeable to the current state of the union? Thanks, but there was no need for you to do this. I already did, which is why I voted for Biden and for change.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 04:30:44 PM
I was happy with it but knew as soon as Biden got in he’d fuck it up just didn’t realize it would be this fast. I put partial blame on you..the ones who actually voted for this cluster fuck because you literally had ZERO idea what was coming. He is, with no exaggeration, fucking up ever sector of this country....and we warned you.

tell us all the things that have gone wrong in your life in the last 4 months that you blame on Biden
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 12, 2021, 04:37:49 PM
tell us all the things that have gone wrong in your life in the last 4 months that you blame on Biden

Excellent question.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2021, 04:46:15 PM
On to 56 !   Is the dump and Hoarder house cleaned up yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
Excellent question.

Actually it’s a retarded question since we’re already starting to feel the effects at the pump, with my business, we’re one of those businesses that are having some problems hiring because the fucking “Stimulus”....

If Strawman is in finance and he seriously doesn’t see what’s coming down the road, then he’s ripping his clients off by lying to them


This was near my house today
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 05:32:23 PM
Excellent question.

I can’t get firearms and ammunition is scarce and expensive. That affects my life big time
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 12, 2021, 05:55:53 PM
I can’t get firearms and ammunition is scarce and expensive. That affects my life big time

I'm sure it puts a real crimp in your photoshoots.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Actually it’s a retarded question since we’re already starting to feel the effects at the pump, with my business, we’re one of those businesses that are having some problems hiring because the fucking “Stimulus”....

If Strawman is in finance and he seriously doesn’t see what’s coming down the road, then he’s ripping his clients off by lying to them


This was near my house today

I guess that's your only complaint and as usual you have no clue what you're talking about
The current cost of gas is no different then we've seen many times in the past, especially in the summer
how the fuck do you not know this.....oh yeah, it's because your'e a fucking moron.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPM0_PTE_SCA_DPG&f=M
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 12, 2021, 06:05:07 PM
Lol...the world is burning within 4 months of Biden being “President” and straw, Funk, Lurker and Prime are still talking about Trump hhahahahahahaha
This is the concerning part, libs aren't addressing the huge issues slapping Americans in the face, they're still celebrating about not seeing Trumps mean tweets.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
I can’t get firearms and ammunition is scarce and expensive. That affects my life big time

tell us exactly how this is "affecting your life big time"

be specific

Also, tell us how many guns you already have (I'm you have some already)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 06:09:52 PM
tell us exactly how this is "affecting your life big time"

be specific

Also, tell us how many guns you already have (I'm you have some already)

I don’t have to be specific to you about anything. And in answer to your question “how many guns do I have” the answer is not enough.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 12, 2021, 06:10:13 PM
tell us exactly how this is "affecting your life big time"

be specific

Also, tell us how many guns you already have (I'm you have some already)
Not today ATF, not today. :-*
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 06:12:07 PM
I don’t have to be specific to you about anything. And in answer to your question “how many guns do I have” the answer is not enough.

so you already have a bunch of guns

how exactly is your inability to get more guns "affecting your life big time"

Why exactly can't you get more guns and how is that Bidens fault

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 06:12:42 PM
Not today ATF, not today. :-*

are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 06:21:01 PM
so you already have a bunch of guns

how exactly is your inability to get more guns "affecting your life big time"

Why exactly can't you get more guns and how is that Bidens fault

Yep..it’s my constitutional right. You want to get owned on that as well? Let go.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF

Do what you gotta do. If have a 100 firearms it’s my right. If I have 20k rounds of ammo  that’s my right as well. Do you disagree? If so, why? I
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2021, 06:24:30 PM
Yep..it’s my constitutional right. You want to get owned on that as well? Let go.

no one ever said it wasn't dipshit

let's try for a 3rd time

How is your claimed lack of ability to buy more guns "affecting your life big time" and why is that Biden's fault

If you're unwilling to answer then I'll just assume you're a liar

Actually it's pretty obvious you're lying so we can just leave it there if you'd prefer

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 12, 2021, 06:36:51 PM
are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF


Bob, why don't pop up to Coach place & take away his guns  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 12, 2021, 06:40:21 PM
are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF
This is what's wrong with stupid motherfuckers like you, you have a third grade reading comprehension.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 06:55:25 PM
I guess that's your only complaint and as usual you have no clue what you're talking about
The current cost of gas is no different then we've seen many times in the past, especially in the summer
how the fuck do you not know this.....oh yeah, it's because your'e a fucking moron.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPM0_PTE_SCA_DPG&f=M

You are absolutely one of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet bar none.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 07:02:38 PM
no one ever said it wasn't dipshit

let's try for a 3rd time

How is your claimed lack of ability to buy more guns "affecting your life big time" and why is that Biden's fault

If you're unwilling to answer then I'll just assume you're a liar

Actually it's pretty obvious you're lying so we can just leave it there if you'd prefer

Unwilling to answer? Who said it was a lack of ability? I’m able too but because of supply and demand most firearms an ammunition aren’t readily available. Why? Because the inept leftists like Biden, Jackson-Lee, Beta O’Rourke basically scare law abiding citizens with the bills that are in the pipeline right now that threatens our second amendment rights. You claim to have a degree in finance. I’m sure you understand the concept of supply and demand? Right, Karl?

This is even worse for people that can’t afford a firearm and ammunition because that leaves them and their families vulnerable to not be able to protect themselves.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 07:12:20 PM
I voted for Biden and for change.


Well, gotta say it's been a swift change...for the worse.

Libs need to start touting accomplishments ASAP.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2021, 07:23:24 PM

Well, gotta say it's been a swift change...for the worse.

Libs need to start touting accomplishments ASAP.

Yes, he got his change. From Capitalism to Marxism within 4 months. I’m sure this was the change Prime, Strawman, Lurker, Funk and whoever supported this asshole wanted...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 07:26:26 PM
Actually it’s a retarded question since we’re already starting to feel the effects at the pump, with my business, we’re one of those businesses that are having some problems hiring because the fucking “Stimulus”....

If Strawman is in finance and he seriously doesn’t see what’s coming down the road, then he’s ripping his clients off by lying to them


This was near my house today

When you pay decent wages and offer benefits, you will attract employees.

I just read an article about business having trouble hiring people. There was an accompanying photo of a McDonald's restaurant. People laid off from a decent paying job (the median 1 earner income in California is just under $60,000) aren't likely to accept a part time job at McDonald's for slightly over $9.00 an hour and risk losing their unemployment benefits. A Californian who earned $15,000 each quarter qualifies for $450 a week unemployment not counting the current Federal add in due to the pandemic. Continued Assistance for Unemployed Workers Act adds another $300 a week for up to 50 weeks and ends in September 2021. That's still a loss of $2,000 a month but it is far better that $9.00 an hour.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 12, 2021, 07:47:53 PM
You are absolutely one of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet bar none.

You my friend, are correct-o-mundo about the straw manlette!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 12, 2021, 07:48:40 PM
are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF

As if. 

Go fuck a duck, you fucking fuck.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 08:13:17 PM
are you breaking the law

thanks for letting us know

I'll pass this along to the ATF


Snitches be bitches.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 12, 2021, 09:29:57 PM
When you pay decent wages and offer benefits, you will attract employees.

I just read an article about business having trouble hiring people. There was an accompanying photo of a McDonald's restaurant. People laid off from a decent paying job (the median 1 earner income in California is just under $60,000) aren't likely to accept a part time job at McDonald's for slightly over $9.00 an hour and risk losing their unemployment benefits. A Californian who earned $15,000 each quarter qualifies for $450 a week unemployment not counting the current Federal add in due to the pandemic. Continued Assistance for Unemployed Workers Act adds another $300 a week for up to 50 weeks and ends in September 2021. That's still a loss of $2,000 a month but it is far better that $9.00 an hour.
A worker making 60k/year more than likely has a skill that can be used to get a job paying better than McDonalds. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 13, 2021, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
I voted for Biden and for change.

But of course you did you glory-hole, ball-butter swilling phag.  ::)


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2021, 05:26:03 AM
On to 57! 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 06:37:26 AM
On to 56 !   Is the dump and Hoarder house cleaned up yet ?
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 13, 2021, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: Primemuscle on May 12, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
I voted for Biden and for change.

But of course you did you glory-hole, ball-butter swilling phag.  ::)
Well, we got change alright.  Hope he enjoys the gas prices.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 11:10:35 AM
Well, we got change alright.  Hope he enjoys the gas prices.
       
                        but when they went up when trump was in, you said the president doesn't control gas prices. it's the laws of supply and demand. what changed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 11:14:34 AM
This is what's wrong with stupid motherfuckers like you, you have a third grade reading comprehension.  ::)

as usual, Trumptards can't recognize sarcasm

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 11:15:36 AM
You are absolutely one of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet bar none.

says the idiot who doesn't understand that gas is no higher than it's been in prior years, especially in the summer when gas prices always go up

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 11:18:01 AM
Unwilling to answer? Who said it was a lack of ability? I’m able too but because of supply and demand most firearms an ammunition aren’t readily available. Why? Because the inept leftists like Biden, Jackson-Lee, Beta O’Rourke basically scare law abiding citizens with the bills that are in the pipeline right now that threatens our second amendment rights. You claim to have a degree in finance. I’m sure you understand the concept of supply and demand? Right, Karl?

This is even worse for people that can’t afford a firearm and ammunition because that leaves them and their families vulnerable to not be able to protect themselves.

again, you're just so fucking stupid I''m amazed you're able to find you way home at night

None of the people you've listed had done ANYTHING in CALIFORNIA to impact your ability to buy a gun

I'm not going to bother explaining basic supply and demand to you since you're the idiot who can't comprehend a simple chart of the historical price of gasoline
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 11:19:24 AM
As if. 

Go fuck a duck, you fucking fuck.

Oh look...A fucking fuck. Hi fucking fuck! Go fuck your grandma's anus through her shitty depends, you fucking fuckwit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 11:58:16 AM

Well, gotta say it's been a swift change...for the worse.

Libs need to start touting accomplishments ASAP.

tell us how your life has changed for the worse since Biden took office

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
A worker making 60k/year more than likely has a skill that can be used to get a job paying better than McDonalds. ::)

With out a doubt. And that's what they'd do if and when such a job is available. Assuming they are looking for work, as is usually required when collecting unemployment.

Coach says he cannot find people to work for him because they are collecting unemployment and apparently not looking for work doing whatever his employees do for whatever he pays them. To get a full picture of why this is the case, you'd have to know what the wages and benefits are? Is it full-time work? Is it permanent? What skills are required? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 13, 2021, 12:12:51 PM
tell us all the things that have gone wrong in your life in the last 4 months that you blame on Biden


"STILL WAITING!!!"

No answer yet.  Coach can't answer simple questions.  Fragile X interference. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 13, 2021, 12:23:44 PM

"STILL WAITING!!!"

No answer yet.  Coach can't answer simple questions.  Fragile X interference.

I did, keep up Junior
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 12:28:14 PM
I did, keep up Junior

both of your claims are bullshit

1.  Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past
2.  Your claimed lack of ability to horde even more guns and ammo has NOTHING to do with anything that Biden has done since taking office. 

Fucking Moron
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 13, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
both of your claims are bullshit

1.  Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past
2.  Your claimed lack of ability to horde even more guns and ammo has NOTHING to do with anything that Biden has done since taking office. 

Fucking Moron

God you’re an inept and uninformed idiot....I thought it was impossible to be dumber than AOC...you prove me wrong on that
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2021, 12:33:15 PM
both of your claims are bullshit

1.  Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past
2.  Your claimed lack of ability to horde even more guns and ammo has NOTHING to do with anything that Biden has done since taking office. 

Fucking Moron

Gas by me is almost $4 a gallon - not that high since FAILBAMA was in office and making excuses
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 13, 2021, 12:38:43 PM
Gas by me is almost $4 a gallon - not that high since FAILBAMA was in office and making excuses
$7 in Virginia.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 12:42:46 PM
Gas by me is almost $4 a gallon - not that high since FAILBAMA was in office and making excuses

and it was even higher when Bush was POTUS so stop making excuses
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 12:43:21 PM
$7 in Virginia.

Are you in an area that was impacted by the pipeline shutdown by Trumps pal Putin?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 12:50:15 PM
Are you in an area that was impacted by the pipeline shutdown by Trumps pal Putin?


Pathetic. Firing blanks. /strawthread
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 13, 2021, 12:55:23 PM
I am at across the street from a great gas station right now the price for regular is 429. Strawman is too stupid to even understand this, but the day after Biden killed Keystone is when gas prices started going up. I want to say that was the week of his inauguration

I’m using voice to text while driving right now
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 01:02:50 PM
     never give up the fight.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 01:04:38 PM
I am at across the street from a great gas station right now the price for regular is 429. Strawman is too stupid to even understand this, but the day after Biden killed Keystone is when gas prices started going up. I want to say that was the week

I’m using voice to text while driving right now



How many Democrats were sitting in line for gas this week that became Independents?   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
God you’re an inept and uninformed idiot....I thought it was impossible to be dumber than AOC...you prove me wrong on that

Why are California gas prices higher than in any other state (March 2021 $3.91)? Is it because Biden wants to get even with you for talking shit about him?  ;D

In March this year, a bipartisan coalition in the House passed two bills to close loopholes in the gun background check system. Looks like Biden has influence over both Democrats and Republicans when it comes to gun control.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2021, 01:21:47 PM
57!   

And the dump is still toxic and a mess!  Time for a garage sale. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
I am at across the street from a great gas station right now the price for regular is 429. Strawman is too stupid to even understand this, but the day after Biden killed Keystone is when gas prices started going up. I want to say that was the week

I’m using voice to text while driving right now

Maybe you could drive less and save money.  ;)

On Jan. 20, Mr. Biden signed an executive order canceling the permit that allowed the pipeline to cross Canada's border with the U.S. By February gas prices in California increased by 17 cents a gallon. More people driving as coronavirus restrictions have eased has also increased demand, driving up gas prices. Between January 2017 and January 2020 the price of a gallon of gas in California when up 64 cents. By January 2021 the price of gas in CA went down 22 cents to $3.26 a gallon. Gas prices are like the stock market they go up and they come down. Too bad you can't buy low stock up and sell high.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2021, 04:52:07 PM
and it was even higher when Bush was POTUS so stop making excuses
No it wasn't. I paid $4.39 the other day.
both of your claims are bullshit

1.  Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past
2.  Your claimed lack of ability to horde even more guns and ammo has NOTHING to do with anything that Biden has done since taking office. 

Fucking Moron
#1 Yes they are, higher than they ever were when your President Trump was in office.
#2 Right, it has to do with your democratic controlled media creating a panic in the people that caused millions of new gun owners to rush out and panic buy guns and ammo at historic rates that continue to this day. Bitem has said or done nothing to help calm the peoples nerves and suspicions about the future of this country, if anything his sporadic, incomprehensive and unrecognizable speeches have created more insecurity in the people.
Fuckface.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 05:02:44 PM
Oh look...A fucking fuck. Hi fucking fuck! Go fuck your grandma's anus through her shitty depends, you fucking fuckwit.

You really are a shaved ape.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 13, 2021, 05:11:58 PM
Are you in an area that was impacted by the pipeline shutdown by Trumps pal Putin?


No firewall to stop "Russian" hackers  ;D

Ah, poor Bob  :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 13, 2021, 05:18:11 PM
Oh look...A fucking fuck. Hi fucking fuck! Go fuck your grandma's anus through her shitty depends, you fucking fuckwit.


WHY is this tolerated Mr. 1MR !!!.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 05:23:42 PM

WHY is this tolerated Mr. 1MR !!!.

Because I said pretty much the same thing to him and he is only able to mime insults.  I have no problem with his idiocy, I merely point it out and mock it.  He feels he is clever.

He is a shaved ape.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 13, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Maybe you could drive less and save money.  ;)

On Jan. 20, Mr. Biden signed an executive order canceling the permit that allowed the pipeline to cross Canada's border with the U.S. By February gas prices in California increased by 17 cents a gallon. More people driving as coronavirus restrictions have eased has also increased demand, driving up gas prices. Between January 2017 and January 2020 the price of a gallon of gas in California when up 64 cents. By January 2021 the price of gas in CA went down 22 cents to $3.26 a gallon. Gas prices are like the stock market they go up and they come down. Too bad you can't buy low stock up and sell high.  :)

.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2021, 06:02:06 PM
58 so we can call 1800 GOT JUNK !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 06:38:43 PM

Pathetic. Firing blanks. /strawthread

wrong

the only one shooting blanks it the LIAR Humble Narcissist

I should have realized he was lying about $7 gas just by the fact that he is a Trumptard and lying goes with the territory
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 06:39:35 PM
You really are a shaved ape.

Go fuck a pig's anus you filthy muslime sympathizer. I will gladly be banned just to see  you banned.   This ain't the real world tonsil-turd.  I hope you get the Covid and ASSume room temperature.

Fuck off you fucking fuck.  No one gives a shit about you and your fuckin' filthy fucked up ways.  Go fuck a donkey, buttwiper.

Yeah.  You are one dumb mother fucker and I hope you Covid up and Kobe out.

You clueless piece of crap.  Covid take you, boy.   You deserve Hell for eternity and that is what you will get.  I spit on you.  No one likes you.  Not here nor in the real world, you perverse fuckwit of a cuckold.

No. One. Likes. You.  Not even the Angels will weep for you.  Cuckold.

You are a pathetic imitation of life.  I hope you Covid up soon you pustule of hatred for all that is American.  You are a fucking cuntlette and no one here or in the real world respects let alone likes you.  I bet you fear salt because you've seen what it does to slugs like yourself.  I loathe you and your kind, you pedestrian typist.

You deserve the Hell that you worship...Anarchy will come for your stretched out bunghole and you will squeal like  the bacon you are.  Kobe.

You made your bed and then shit in it.  You are the very personification of filth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 06:45:17 PM
No it wasn't. I paid $4.39 the other day.#1 Yes they are, higher than they ever were when your President Trump was in office.
#2 Right, it has to do with your democratic controlled media creating a panic in the people that caused millions of new gun owners to rush out and panic buy guns and ammo at historic rates that continue to this day. Bitem has said or done nothing to help calm the peoples nerves and suspicions about the future of this country, if anything his sporadic, incomprehensive and unrecognizable speeches have created more insecurity in the people.
Fuckface.

You're a LIAR

The price of gas was higher at the end of Bush's term than it is now



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 06:46:47 PM

WHY is this tolerated Mr. 1MR !!!.

do you understand that I'm quoting The Scott in that post

All I do now is take HIS posts to me and reply to him with them

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 13, 2021, 06:48:58 PM
Because I said pretty much the same thing to him and he is only able to mime insults.  I have no problem with his idiocy, I merely point it out and mock it.  He feels he is clever.

He is a shaved ape.

not "pretty much"

those are YOUR EXACT WORDS and there is nothing clever about them

They reveal that you are sick miserable piece of shit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 07:09:35 PM
not "pretty much"

those are YOUR EXACT WORDS and there is nothing clever about them

They reveal that you are sick miserable piece of shit

Got covid yet, you sick piece of work?  Fuck you to hell.  You deserve it, you filthy lib.  I hope you stroke out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2021, 08:05:33 PM
You're a LIAR

The price of gas was higher at the end of Bush's term than it is now




You are a FAGGOT. You post a video showing gas at $4.19, I just paid $4.39, suck an illegal immigrant dick, you Trump obsessed freak.

Just to be clear, you went back to 2009 or earlier in a pathetic attempt at what? To try to justify the raping of the people by your brain dead, mentally incompetent baffoon of a President? LMAO!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
You are a FAGGOT. You post a video showing gas at $4.19, I just paid $4.39, suck an illegal immigrant dick, you Trump obsessed freak.

Just to be clear, you went back to 2009 or earlier in a pathetic attempt at what? To try to justify the raping of the people by your brain dead, mentally incompetent baffoon of a President? LMAO!!! ;D ;D

Straw is an impotent toilet boa and I once again volunteer to be banned from here along with him and that moron, Prime.  I despise those two chum buckets, especially so Straw.  Prime is caught up in a limp-dicked social just us bowel movement but could use a dose of reality too.  Fuck That Noise.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 13, 2021, 08:19:18 PM
You are a FAGGOT. You post a video showing gas at $4.19, I just paid $4.39, suck an illegal immigrant dick, you Trump obsessed freak.

Just to be clear, you went back to 2009 or earlier in a pathetic attempt at what? To try to justify the raping of the people by your brain dead, mentally incompetent baffoon of a President? LMAO!!! ;D ;D

In Michigan I paid $4.50 at the height of the Bush years.  Not saying it was Bush's fault but that was the most I've ever paid.  It's about $3.00 right now.  Also, to quote many a Republican, "the President doesn't control gas prices".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
In Michigan I paid $4.50 at the height of the Bush years.  Not saying it was Bush's fault but that was the most I've ever paid.  It's about $3.00 right now.  Also, to quote many a Republican, "the President doesn't control gas prices".



As far as market pricing in general, correct....BUT all tangible commodities are going up due to the money printing by the Biden administration and also shutting down the Keystone pipeline is 100% on ol' Joe. We've just started to see the effect of those two policy actions.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 13, 2021, 08:26:31 PM


As far as market pricing, correct....BUT all tangible commodities are going up due to the money printing by the Biden administration and also shutting down the Keystone pipeline is 100% on ol' Joe.

I'm willing to be patient.  Things are opening up.  By the fall, I predict unemployment will be down and life in the USA will be pretty normal.  I expect gas to settle down along with most every other good and service.  Then, BOOM!  My 401K will be off the fucking chart!  Thank you in advance Dear Leader Biden.  #BidenMAGA
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 08:28:05 PM
I'm willing to be patient.  Things are opening up.  By the fall, I predict unemployment will be down and life in the USA will be pretty normal.  I expect gas to settle down along with most every other good and service.  Then, BOOM!  My 401K will be off the fucking chart!  Thank you in advance Dear Leader Biden.  #BidenMAGA
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Biden is a kunt.  But it the real citizens of our Nation that will get fucked by him. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 13, 2021, 08:33:08 PM
Biden is a kunt.  But it the real citizens of our Nation that will get fucked by him.

We merely disagree.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  Now go fuck yourself your fuckless fucking fuck of a fuck!   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 13, 2021, 08:33:33 PM
We merely disagree.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  Now go fuck yourself your fuckless fucking fuck of a fuck!   ;D

Thanks, brother!  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 13, 2021, 08:37:15 PM
Thanks, brother!  ;D

I try pal!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 14, 2021, 10:02:24 AM
               
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 14, 2021, 10:56:25 AM
On to 59.   Is the pig sty cleaned up yet ?  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 14, 2021, 11:40:51 AM
https://hannity.com/media-room/pain-at-the-pump-gas-prices-in-virginia-rise-to-7-per-gallon-white-house-says-economy-successful/?fbclid=IwAR1J4VZr19sOdzCiPxbkSBtUK6AZurdiTkTj5Z0qJ8153tYieCPhxplcjA8
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on May 14, 2021, 12:42:21 PM
Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XhGL_XIAYKOKG?format=jpg&name=medium)


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 14, 2021, 12:58:54 PM
Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XhGL_XIAYKOKG?format=jpg&name=medium)
   but he said he was going to be right there walking with them to give the gop courage to overturn the election. trial by combat as the great rudy g said.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 14, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
On to 59.   Is the pig sty cleaned up yet ?  ;D

It smells real bad from the looks of it.

That rotten apple smell.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on May 14, 2021, 01:10:20 PM
both of your claims are bullshit

1.  Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past
2.  Your claimed lack of ability to horde even more guns and ammo has NOTHING to do with anything that Biden has done since taking office. 

Fucking Moron

They are much higher in the midwest.  I paid $3.65 for premium today.  I used to get it a few months ago at 2.30ish and last summer at 2.60ish.

Maybe the prices have just been high for a while in San Jose.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 14, 2021, 01:47:53 PM
They are much higher in the midwest.  I paid $3.65 for premium today.  I used to get it a few months ago at 2.30ish and last summer at 2.60ish.

Maybe the prices have just been high for a while in San Jose.

I remember paying almost 5 dollars a gallon in the last summer that Bush was POTUS
People all over the country were bitching about the high price of gas...so much so that Bush addressed it in his usually bumbling way

This video is from April 30th, 2008

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 14, 2021, 01:49:53 PM
Straw is an impotent toilet boa and I once again volunteer to be banned from here along with him and that moron, Prime.  I despise those two chum buckets, especially so Straw.  Prime is caught up in a limp-dicked social just us bowel movement but could use a dose of reality too.  Fuck That Noise.

spending your time and emotional energy "hating" two people that you don't know and have nothing to do with your life is just pathetic

Actually, "pathetic" would be precise one word summary of your life
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 14, 2021, 02:17:59 PM
On to 59 pages.  Pump and dump !     But clean up the mess for f sake.   :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on May 14, 2021, 02:18:50 PM
I remember paying almost 5 dollars a gallon in the last summer that Bush was POTUS
People all over the country were bitching about the high price of gas...so much so that Bush addressed it in his usually bumbling way

This video is from April 30th, 2008



I know, I remember that well when I lived in Cali back then.  But, your assertion that "Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past." is incorrect and 2008 is 13 years ago.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 14, 2021, 02:35:01 PM
I know, I remember that well when I lived in Cali back then.  But, your assertion that "Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past." is incorrect and 2008 is 13 years ago.

I don't know how you measure time but I consider 2008 to be the "past"
As I'm sure you know the price changes based on supply and demand and sometimes extraordinary events will have a temporary effect on supply

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on May 14, 2021, 02:57:39 PM
I don't know how you measure time but I consider 2008 to be the "past"
As I'm sure you know the price changes based on supply and demand and sometimes extraordinary events will have a temporary effect on supply

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

We have enjoyed low gas prices for a few years now.  When gas prices go up dramatically as they have recently, then most people feel the pinch.  Saying "Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past." suggests the recent past, not 13 years ago which is kind of a moot point to make.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2021, 03:00:35 PM
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Just thought you might be interested in what's happening with gas prices in Oregon. At the Astro station in Molalla, OR regular is currently $2.88 a gal. cash and 10 cents higher for credit. The average price of gas in Portland right now is $3.39. Biden loves Oregonians which is why our gas is so much cheaper than it is in California. LOL!

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2021, 03:27:27 PM
Just thought you might be interested in what's happening with gas prices in Oregon. At the Astro station in Molalla, OR regular is currently $2.88 a gal. cash and 10 cents higher for credit. The average price of gas in Portland right now is $3.39. Biden loves Oregonians which is why our gas is so much cheaper than it is in California. LOL!

Biden seems to be cleaning up Trump's mess and well on his way to MOGA!  Making Oregon Great Again (for the retards in our midst).   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 14, 2021, 03:55:36 PM
We have enjoyed low gas prices for a few years now.  When gas prices go up dramatically as they have recently, then most people feel the pinch.  Saying "Gas Prices are no higher than they've been in the past." suggests the recent past, not 13 years ago which is kind of a moot point to make.

I'm not responsible that you drew the wrong conclusion

My prior posts mentioned the time when Bush was POTUS and included a chart

the past is the past whether it was last month, last year or 13 years ago

the fact the fact is that gas has been higher many times in the past as proven by the chart that I posted

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2021, 04:01:37 PM
Biden seems to be cleaning up Trump's mess and well on his way to MOGA!  Making Oregon Great Again (for the retards in our midst).   ;D

I wish Biden could MPGA (make Portland great again). In order to do that he's have to solve the homeless problem....which would be a really good thing.

Squatters not allowed.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2021, 04:08:12 PM
I wish Biden could MPGA (make Portland great again). In order to do that he's have to solve the homeless problem....which would be a really good thing.

President Harris has Sleepy Joe quite busy these days.  During her 2nd term I suspect Portland will be a focal point.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 14, 2021, 04:09:27 PM
I'm willing to be patient.  Things are opening up.  By the fall, I predict unemployment will be down and life in the USA will be pretty normal.  I expect gas to settle down along with most every other good and service.  Then, BOOM!  My 401K will be off the fucking chart!  Thank you in advance Dear Leader Biden.  #BidenMAGA
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope you are right Abe. !!  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2021, 04:13:26 PM
I hope you are right Abe. !!  8)

Me too.  Er, #MeToo!  LOL.  No secret I wasn't a fan of Trump.  I had higher hopes for him even though I did not vote for him.  That being said, not once during his 4 years did I ever root for any aspect of American life to fail.  Nothing he could have done would have swayed me to vote for him last year but I'm convinced.  Beyond convinced that had he attacked Covid openly and honestly that he'd be sitting in the white house today.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on May 14, 2021, 04:21:33 PM
I'm not responsible that you drew the wrong conclusion

My prior posts mentioned the time when Bush was POTUS and included a chart

the past is the past whether it was last month, last year or 13 years ago

the fact the fact is that gas has been higher many times in the past as proven by the chart that I posted

You are though.  Your point that gas was higher before doesn’t matter.   Who fucking cares how high it was 13 years ago?  People are concerned because it was significantly lower just months ago.  You attempted to dismiss the recent increase in gas prices by saying they been higher before?   At least have the integrity to call it what it is instead of that stupid BS. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 14, 2021, 05:20:22 PM
Me too.  Er, #MeToo!  LOL.  No secret I wasn't a fan of Trump.  I had higher hopes for him even though I did not vote for him.  That being said, not once during his 4 years did I ever root for any aspect of American life to fail.  Nothing he could have done would have swayed me to vote for him last year but I'm convinced.  Beyond convinced that had he attacked Covid openly and honestly that he'd be sitting in the white house today.

Covid is B.S.  Biden Shit.  Just sayin'... 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2021, 05:47:36 PM
Covid is B.S.  Biden Shit.  Just sayin'... 8)

One of my co workers is the biggest Trump supporter I know.  Good guy.  I love him.  He'd give me the shirt off his back.  He's spent the past 14 months saying the same thing.  That covid is B.S.  He refuses to wear a mask.  Refuses to distance.  Has spent the last several months raging against the vaccine and those who get it.  He has been in the hospital now for 2 weeks with no end in sight.  Probably being transferred to the ICU tonight.  I wonder how many people now have covid thanks to him?  One of our other co-workers who works directly with him was out for about a week.  Didn't get too ill and is back to work now.  I would love to know if any part of him wishes he'd worn a mask?  Ever?  Distanced, avoided crowds, etc?  Or god forbid considered the vaccine? 

Also, I buried a 52 year old cousin last year who other than being about 10-15lbs overweight did NOT have any co-morbidities thanks to covid induced blood clots.  His widow, now deceased mother and brothers probably don't ascribe to covid being B.S. either. 

The Donald is on tape at the beginning of this thing saying how deadly and fucked up this virus is.  He himself got very sick from it.  If you think they airlift anyone, president or other to Walter Reed for the sniffles, think again.  Then, he and his wife got the vaccine in secret. 

A typical year results in 20-60K flu deaths.  Last year 500K people died of covid.  Let's assume the flu was to blame for 60K of them.  That's over 400K dead Americans.  Pretty sure their families and friends don't think it's B.S. 

Now get back into your wheelchair and watch some Andy Griffith.   ;D

PS.  I still love you!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2021, 06:10:28 PM
One of my co workers is the biggest Trump supporter I know.  Good guy.  I love him.  He'd give me the shirt off his back.  He's spent the past 14 months saying the same thing.  That covid is B.S.  He refuses to wear a mask.  Refuses to distance.  Has spent the last several months raging against the vaccine and those who get it.  He has been in the hospital now for 2 weeks with no end in sight.  Probably being transferred to the ICU tonight.  I wonder how many people now have covid thanks to him?  One of our other co-workers who works directly with him was out for about a week.  Didn't get too ill and is back to work now.  I would love to know if any part of him wishes he'd worn a mask?  Ever?  Distanced, avoided crowds, etc?  Or god forbid considered the vaccine? 

Also, I buried a 52 year old cousin last year who other than being about 10-15lbs overweight did NOT have any co-morbidities thanks to covid induced blood clots.  His widow, now deceased mother and brothers probably don't ascribe to covid being B.S. either. 

The Donald is on tape at the beginning of this thing saying how deadly and fucked up this virus is.  He himself got very sick from it.  If you think they airlift anyone, president or other to Walter Reed for the sniffles, think again.  Then, he and his wife got the vaccine in secret. 

A typical year results in 20-60K flu deaths.  Last year 500K people died of covid.  Let's assume the flu was to blame for 60K of them.  That's over 400K dead Americans.  Pretty sure their families and friends don't think it's B.S. 

Now get back into your wheelchair and watch some Andy Griffith.   ;D

PS.  I still love you!

Sorry about chiming in, but I have a question about your work place. Was wearing masks not being enforced? Everyone I know who is not working from home is required to wear a mask when at work. It is either wear one or go home and don't come back. Of course this may change, given the recent CDC announcement.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 14, 2021, 06:21:54 PM
In Michigan I paid $4.50 at the height of the Bush years.  Not saying it was Bush's fault but that was the most I've ever paid.  It's about $3.00 right now.  Also, to quote many a Republican, "the President doesn't control gas prices".
CA enjoys bending it's citizens over....saw $4.59 this morning, not the norm, I'd say $3.99 - $4.09 is about average.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 14, 2021, 06:24:30 PM
You are though.  Your point that gas was higher before doesn’t matter.   Who fucking cares how high it was 13 years ago?  People are concerned because it was significantly lower just months ago.  You attempted to dismiss the recent increase in gas prices by saying they been higher before?   At least have the integrity to call it what it is instead of that stupid BS.
He's about as far left as you can get, totally irrational.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2021, 06:36:23 PM
Sorry about chiming in, but I have a question about your work place. Was wearing masks not being enforced? Everyone I know who is not working from home is required to wear a mask when at work. It is either wear one or go home and don't come back. Of course this may change, given the recent CDC announcement.

Chime in any time.  No homo.  No, not being enforced.  Especially on the night shift and not in the maintenance department.  Our maintenance group has made it clear that they have this place by the short hairs, so they rarely get fucked with. This predates covid.  It's bullshit.  My department is a 2 person group and we sit more than 6 feet from one another.  I've politely asked people who enter my area without a mask to not do so going forward.  The fucked up thing is our maintenance group is the group that is exposed and exposes the most people due to the roving nature of their job.  I'd have called their bluff years ago if I were in position to do so. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 15, 2021, 06:25:13 AM
One of my co workers is the biggest Trump supporter I know.  Good guy.  I love him.  He'd give me the shirt off his back.  He's spent the past 14 months saying the same thing.  That covid is B.S.  He refuses to wear a mask.  Refuses to distance.  Has spent the last several months raging against the vaccine and those who get it.  He has been in the hospital now for 2 weeks with no end in sight.  Probably being transferred to the ICU tonight.  I wonder how many people now have covid thanks to him?  One of our other co-workers who works directly with him was out for about a week.  Didn't get too ill and is back to work now.  I would love to know if any part of him wishes he'd worn a mask?  Ever?  Distanced, avoided crowds, etc?  Or god forbid considered the vaccine? 

Also, I buried a 52 year old cousin last year who other than being about 10-15lbs overweight did NOT have any co-morbidities thanks to covid induced blood clots.  His widow, now deceased mother and brothers probably don't ascribe to covid being B.S. either. 

The Donald is on tape at the beginning of this thing saying how deadly and fucked up this virus is.  He himself got very sick from it.  If you think they airlift anyone, president or other to Walter Reed for the sniffles, think again.  Then, he and his wife got the vaccine in secret. 

A typical year results in 20-60K flu deaths.  Last year 500K people died of covid.  Let's assume the flu was to blame for 60K of them.  That's over 400K dead Americans.  Pretty sure their families and friends don't think it's B.S. 

Now get back into your wheelchair and watch some Andy Griffith.   ;D

PS.  I still love you!
               
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 15, 2021, 06:51:53 AM
COVID is real. The mass hysteria, killing the global economy over it is retarded.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 15, 2021, 07:12:41 AM
COVID is real. The mass hysteria, killing the global economy over it is retarded.

Covid is real but why then did they choose to inflate the effects by calling anyone that died of anything that also had a trace of Covid in them, DEAD by Covid?

Because they want control.  This is not conspiracy, this is outright Animal Farm. Fuck That Noise, sir!  Fauci is possessed of a midgie complex that is Hitlerian (I have no idea if that is a real word, but it fits that midget  Liberals are the real Nazis.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 15, 2021, 10:08:26 AM
   
     on to page 60.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 15, 2021, 10:18:47 AM
The left will milk this Chinavirus bs until the mid-terms just when it started it was all about 2020. Trump was right. The pandemic is a hoax. If you can see then you’re completely retarded
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 15, 2021, 10:21:17 AM
60 pages coming.  For F sake - clean up the dump and trash strewn pig sty. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 15, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
The left will milk this Chinavirus bs until the mid-terms just when it started it was all about 2020. Trump was right. The pandemic is a hoax. If you can see then you’re completely retarded
         
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 16, 2021, 10:45:23 AM
'You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message
Kristine Phillips
USA TODAY







WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "FUCK you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged  with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.


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"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."


The filing was in response to a motion by Nordean's attorney accusing prosecutors of failing to timely release evidence that contradict allegations of a conspiracy. Defense attorneys cited several messages sent after Jan. 6 in which Nordean said that storming the Capitol was not planned and that he no longer wants to be involved in politics.

Prosecutors dismissed the allegations, saying the trove of messages extracted from Nordean's phone are "far from being exculpatory" and contain additional evidence of a crime.


Capitol riot:Marine Corps officer becomes first active-duty service member charged in Jan. 6 attack, DOJ says

Trump was impeached by the House for a second time for his role in inciting the mob that stormed the Capitol while Congress was counting state-certified Electoral College votes. The impeachment fractured the Republican Party, with 10 House GOP members voting to impeach and others acknowledging Trump's role but arguing that impeachment would further divide the country.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who voted to acquit Trump, later condemned the former president, saying his "crescendo of conspiracy theories" caused the insurrection. Trump was acquitted by the Senate.

Testifying earlier this week before a Senate committee, Attorney General Merrick Garland declined to say whether Trump's claims of a stolen presidential election incited the insurrection. More broadly, Garland said false narratives and misinformation lead to acts of domestic extremism.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 16, 2021, 10:46:51 AM
'You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message
Kristine Phillips
USA TODAY

               






WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "FUCK you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged  with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.


Capitol riot:Capitol riot spurred conspiracy charge against 31 suspects, but how hard is it to prove?

Capitol riot:House panel proposes bipartisan Capitol riot commission to study Jan. 6 domestic terrorism

"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."


The filing was in response to a motion by Nordean's attorney accusing prosecutors of failing to timely release evidence that contradict allegations of a conspiracy. Defense attorneys cited several messages sent after Jan. 6 in which Nordean said that storming the Capitol was not planned and that he no longer wants to be involved in politics.

Prosecutors dismissed the allegations, saying the trove of messages extracted from Nordean's phone are "far from being exculpatory" and contain additional evidence of a crime.


Capitol riot:Marine Corps officer becomes first active-duty service member charged in Jan. 6 attack, DOJ says

Trump was impeached by the House for a second time for his role in inciting the mob that stormed the Capitol while Congress was counting state-certified Electoral College votes. The impeachment fractured the Republican Party, with 10 House GOP members voting to impeach and others acknowledging Trump's role but arguing that impeachment would further divide the country.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who voted to acquit Trump, later condemned the former president, saying his "crescendo of conspiracy theories" caused the insurrection. Trump was acquitted by the Senate.

Testifying earlier this week before a Senate committee, Attorney General Merrick Garland declined to say whether Trump's claims of a stolen presidential election incited the insurrection. More broadly, Garland said false narratives and misinformation lead to acts of domestic extremism.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
What are they scared of it was a free and fair election as they claim?

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), who was recently elected as the House Republican Conference chair, said that the Department of Justice’s questions about the audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa County, Arizona, may be unconstitutional.

The Justice Department on May 5 sent a letter to Arizona Senate Leader Karen Fann, a Republican, inquiring about the custody of the ballots under review by a group of private contractors, alleging that it other processes—including the canvassing of addresses—could be “voter intimidation.”

I support that audit,” Stefanik said after being asked about the audit in a Fox Business interview Sunday. “Transparency is good for the American people. And again, this should be a non-partisan issue, whether you are Republican, Democrat, independent, or conservative, transparency is important and the audit was passed by the Arizona State Senate.”

Stefanik later said that the “Biden Department of Justice is trying to block that audit,” which, she said, “is unconstitutional from my perspective.” She continued: “Our states, constitutionally, are responsible for writing states’ constitution law.”

Pamela Karlan, the principal deputy assistant attorney general with the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, wrote to Fann that a “description of the proposed work of the audit raises concerns regarding potential intimidation of voters.” Fann, in response, said that the plan by election auditors to verify the validity of certain voters is was placed on hold.

If and to the extent the Senate subsequently decides that canvassing is necessary to the successful completion of the audit, its vendor will implement detailed requirements to ensure that the canvassing is conducted in a manner that complies fully with the commands of the United States Constitution and federal and state civil rights laws,” Fann wrote earlier this month.

Stefanik’s comments Sunday came just days after Dominion Voting Systems and Maricopa County officials said they would not provide passwords for election machines in Maricopa County. Dominion argued that it would comply with the audit, but it added that Cyber Ninjas—the company hired by the state Senate—isn’t accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

Stefanik, meanwhile, was approved by House Republicans in a vote last week to become the Republican Conference chair, the party’s No. 3 positions in the House. She took over after GOP lawmakers voted to remove Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), a frequent critic of former President Donald Trump, from that same position.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on May 16, 2021, 11:00:15 AM
The left will milk this Chinavirus bs until the mid-terms just when it started it was all about 2020. Trump was right. The pandemic is a hoax. If you can see then you’re completely retarded

Ex president Trump was sure vocal about the pandemic being a hoax.

Right up until he was infected with the hoax.  Then he was helicoptered to the hospital to be treated for the hoax.

Eventually, he was vaccinated just to make sure this hoax doesn't get him again.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 16, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
Another weekend almost over.   Is the dump and eyesore cleaned up yet ?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 16, 2021, 12:34:44 PM
good news the new flags are in. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)many are placing them now, it's only 3 more years. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2021, 12:53:27 PM
Another weekend almost over.   Is the dump and eyesore cleaned up yet ?
The trash pile has spread, it's infected the neighbors yards and they aren't happy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 12:58:09 PM
Chime in any time.  No homo.  No, not being enforced.  Especially on the night shift and not in the maintenance department.  Our maintenance group has made it clear that they have this place by the short hairs, so they rarely get fucked with. This predates covid.  It's bullshit.  My department is a 2 person group and we sit more than 6 feet from one another.  I've politely asked people who enter my area without a mask to not do so going forward.  The fucked up thing is our maintenance group is the group that is exposed and exposes the most people due to the roving nature of their job.  I'd have called their bluff years ago if I were in position to do so.

Just read that Costco is waving the need for masks in States where the policy is aligned with the new CDC directive. Customers will be on their honor as far as being fully vaccinated and it has been two weeks or more since their final shot. The other exception is that you  Face coverings will be required in healthcare areas such as the pharmacy, optical and Hearing aid departments. Safeway still required face coverings as of last night.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 12:59:07 PM
Ex president Trump was sure vocal about the pandemic being a hoax.

Right up until he was infected with the hoax.  Then he was helicoptered to the hospital to be treated for the hoax.

Eventually, he was vaccinated just to make sure this hoax doesn't get him again.

Don’t confuse the plannedemic with the virus
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 01:11:51 PM
The left will milk this Chinavirus bs until the mid-terms just when it started it was all about 2020. Trump was right. The pandemic is a hoax. If you can see then you’re completely retarded

Tell that to the nearly 3.5 million people worldwide who died from COVID. Tell this to the folks in India working in the open air crematoriums, some of which have been setup in vacant parking lots because they've run out of space to burn the dead.

(https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20210427&t=2&i=1560080882&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2021-04-27T131321Z_39893_MRPRC2P3N9SSDIW_RTRMADP_0_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-INDIA)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
Tell that to the nearly 3.5 million people worldwide who died from COVID. Tell this to the folks in India working in the open air crematoriums, some of which have been setup in vacant parking lots because they've run out of space to burn the dead.

(https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20210427&t=2&i=1560080882&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2021-04-27T131321Z_39893_MRPRC2P3N9SSDIW_RTRMADP_0_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-INDIA)

Maybe you missed my last post

“Don’t confuse the plannedemic with the virus”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 01:25:44 PM
Maybe you missed my last post

“Don’t confuse the plannedemic with the virus”

Oh I didn't miss it at all. It is just too ridiculous a comment to bother responding to. But, it goes with what I wrote previously about rightwingnuts' affinity for conspiracies.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Oh I didn't miss it at all. It is just too ridiculous a comment to bother responding to. But, it goes with what I wrote previously about rightwingnuts' affinity for conspiracies.

So you didn’t think it was ridiculous to keep the country shut down for year when Trump wanted to reopen it a month or two later when it really shouldn’t have been shut down at all but he listened to that fuckwit Fouci?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 16, 2021, 02:16:45 PM


(https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20210427&t=2&i=1560080882&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2021-04-27T131321Z_39893_MRPRC2P3N9SSDIW_RTRMADP_0_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-INDIA)


Similar image to Antifa rioting in Portland !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 02:21:36 PM

Similar image to Antifa rioting in Portland !.

Not hardly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on May 16, 2021, 02:43:25 PM
The virus is separate from the pandemic?   Lol.....

Of course it is.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 16, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
So you didn’t think it was ridiculous to keep the country shut down for year when Trump wanted to reopen it a month or two later when it really shouldn’t have been shut down at all but he listened to that fuckwit Fouci?

Shouldn't have been shut down at all?. We'd make India look like a pleasant place to vacation if we'd done that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 09:51:20 PM
Shouldn't have been shut down at all?. We'd make India look like a pleasant place to vacation if we'd done that.

Keep in mind that Coach refuses to wear a mask and it is most unlikely he's been or ever will be vaccinated for COVID. On April 30, 2020 when Gavin Newsom ordered all Orange County beaches closed (which is where Huntington Beach is located and where Coach lives). Naturally, Coach bragged about ignoring the Governor's announcement. Nobody can keep Coach off the beach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 16, 2021, 09:56:03 PM
Shouldn't have been shut down at all?. We'd make India look like a pleasant place to vacation if we'd done that.


You. Talking. Out. Yer. Ass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Shouldn't have been shut down at all?. We'd make India look like a pleasant place to vacation if we'd done that.

No..it shouldn’t have. Period
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 10:26:28 PM
Keep in mind that Coach refuses to wear a mask and it is most unlikely he's been or ever will be vaccinated for COVID. On April 30, 2020 when Gavin Newsom ordered all Orange County beaches closed (which is where Huntington Beach is located and where Coach lives). Naturally, Coach bragged about ignoring the Governor's announcement. Nobody can keep Coach off the beach.

Yeah..and so did HB because our then Mayor knew it was bullshit. We told Newsom to suck a dick last year when LA Co were chasing one person in the water with Coast Guards. And you’re right, I won’t get vaccinated nor will I wear a mask if I don’t have too. You got a problem with that? Check yourself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2021, 10:31:46 PM
Yeah..and so did HB because our then Mayor knew it was bullshit. We told Newsom to suck a dick last year when LA Co were chasing one person in the water with Coast Guards. And you’re right, I won’t get vaccinated nor will I wear a mask if I don’t have too. You got a problem with that? Check yourself

Did I say I had a problem with it? It just says pretty much everything there is to know about you and how you feel about COVID. Yeah right, the Mayor told Newsom to "suck a dick".  ::)  Did you keep a copy of this? You should post it. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Did I say I had a problem with it? It just says pretty much everything there is to know about you and how you feel about COVID. Yeah right, the Mayor told Newsom to "suck a dick".  ::)  Did you keep a copy of this? You should post it.

Yeah...whole town did. The citizens, Law enforcement, our Sheriff, our Lifeguards, most of our city council and our Mayor. And yes, you do have a problem with it or wouldn’t have mentioned it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on May 17, 2021, 09:39:21 AM
This place is the best.....

One needle in the arm: BAD

Multiple needles in the ass daily.... year round, sometimes for decades: GOOD
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 17, 2021, 10:13:40 AM
This place is the best.....

One needle in the arm: BAD

Multiple needles in the ass daily.... year round, sometimes for decades: GOOD

One needle has proven success for decades upon decades, the other, not so much LOL
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 17, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
      what's this thread about again.....uhhhhh almost forgot. oh yes the banishment of strawman because he makes trumptards cry. :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 17, 2021, 10:25:33 AM
The eternal resistance-training schism... Intensity versus Volume
BY: Marty Gallagher
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SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 RAW WITH MARTY GALLAGHER, RESISTANCE TRAINING TAGS: WEIGHTLIFTING, STRENGTH TRAINING, RESISTANCE TRAINING, POWERLIFTING, BODYBUILDING
Occam's razor applied to primal strength training
"Less equals more if less is more intense..."
William of Occam lived in the 14th century and was a Franciscan friar from Ockham, a village in Surrey, England. William created a common sense theorem that became known as "Occam's Razor." To pithily paraphrase his postulation, "When you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions and produce identical results, choose the one that is simpler, the one with fewer moving parts." Or, as applied to competing strength strategies (and assuming all methods produced equal results,) choose to use the strength strategy that is less complex and takes less time to practice. Lex parsimoniae champions economy and succinctness. Occam stratagem is used in logic and problem-solving and favors the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions.

Occam's Razor can be applied with great ease to strength training and strength strategies. How could an Occam acolyte not favor a system that was simpler, shorter, contained fewer exercises and was done less frequently? Based on his love of tactical economy, I can say without fear of intelligent contradiction that William of Occam would be an enthused proponent of our purposefully primitive, sophisticated yet simplistic, strength strategem. Our tactics, strategies and protocols are battle-proven and have a competitive pedigree without rival. In the world of big league competitive powerlifting, the most successful sttength system of all time was an ultra-minimalistic approach that personifies the ideal of lex parsimoniae. The hallmarks of this barebones system epitomize the ideal of less is more…

Purposefully limited menu of exercises
Archetype techniques and a reverance for precise execution
Short, extremely intense training sessions
Infrequent training sessions
Rest and food are intergral to success
Long-term preplanning a prerequisite: a goal without a plan is a wish
From 1965 until 1995, virtually every world record set were by men that hit each major lift once a week, working up to a single top set of squats or deadlifts. How much less could a strength trainer do? What strength strategy could be simpler? Power protocols had men lifting 2-3 times weekly in short and to the point training sessions. As long as they hit their predetermined training poundage and rep targets each succesive week, all was right with the world. An amazing number of all time world records set using this most primitive of power protocols still stand to this day: in seven out of eleven weight classes, all time best marks were sets decades ago.

Lex parsimoniae extremis!
The elegance and effectiveness of extreme simplicity

Mark Chaillet powerlifting champion and world record holder shown performing deadlifts
Mark Chaillet deadlifts 800 weighing 219 in 1980. His barebones intensity-based strength system was minimalism personified; he set world records, barely training at all.

How simple can a system be made before it loses effectiveness?

In resistance training we put a finer point on this eternal question: how simplistic and sparse can a strength system be made before it fails to deliver tangible results? How little can we do and still get optimal results? When we say " how little" we refer to duration and frequency. How short can the strength training sessions be before they become ineffective? How infrequently can we train and still obtain maximum results? We don't want or seek anything less than optimal results - this is key - we don't want minimalism at the expense of results. Once a mimimalistic sytem begins to deliver less than optimal results, it morphs and degrades into a maintainace regimen. We want maximum results for minimum time investment.

A half century of hardcore iron empirical experience shows that the amount of time weight training can be radically reduced if the training intensity is amped up into the stratosphere…

In the early 1980s, I had the great fortune of becoming a training partner and competition coach for a unique strength athlete named Mark Chaillet. World champion and world record holder, Mark was the most consistent and steadfast trainer I have ever known. He was also the most simplistic trainer I have ever known. Had I not seen with my own eyes his progress in the six years I trained with him, I would not have believed it possible for a man to get so good doing so little. I am eternally grateful for him opening my eyes to the glory and rightness and pure possibilities of exercise intensity…

Imagine a world champion powerlifter, a man that squats 1,000 pounds below parallel, a man that deadlifts 880 pounds; all this done by a man standing 5 foot 9 inches and weighing a ripped 275 pounds. Chaillet's shoulders were (easily) the widest I have ever seen on a man his height. His hands were huge and he was extermely athletic.

He ran the hardest of hardcore gyms: I recounted in my book, the Purposeful Primitive, where on one typical Thursday (nothing special, just another Thursday) I counted 13 men, myself included, that had deadlifted 700 pounds or more, all gathered together for our weekly Thursday deadlift day. For the six straight years I trained wiith him, Mark used an unvarying template…

Monday
Squat work up to a single, all out rep
Bench press work up to a single, all out rep

Thursday
Deadlift work up to a single, all out rep

That is it: no nothing else. I repeat, nothing! He did not perform a single other exercise, nor did he perform additional sets of squats, bench presses or deadlifts.

If the schedule called for him to squat say, 820 x 1, His squat warmups would go 255 for 5 reps (place two 100-pound Olympic plates on an Olympic bar with collars and it weighs 255.) He'd rest fove mimutes between sets and the hit 455 foe 3 reps (add another 100 per side) then 655 for one rep. His final warmup would be with 745 x 1 (a 45-pound plate atop six 100s.) He would then tackle the his 820 top set for the day. In the bench press, 135 for 8, 255 for 2, 345 for 1, 405 x 1 and then his top set, 450 x1. In the deadlift, his forte, 255x1, 455x1, 655x1, 735x1 then 800x1. His deadlift workout was five reps! And he was the best deadlifter in the world in his weight class: ten competition pulls in excess of 850.

Like all elite powerlifters of that era that lifted at the national or international level, Mark used "straight line linear" periodization because that was all there was. Periodization was new and none of the exotic variations that have sprung up in the interceding thirty years existed back then. Mark lifted twice a week and used two 12-week cycles. This equated to 24 weeks a year preparing for competition leaving 28 weeks a year for the "off season." If he did no make the world championship squad (only the national champions in the weight division were selected) he would lift in a local competion.

Straight-line periodization was an elemental strategy that was universally used back in the 80s and 90s that is universally ignored today. The idea was think sequentially in order to create a lifting game plan to peak strength. In order to create a periodized cycle, the lifter would follow these guidelines…

Create a realistic goal for the squat, bench press and deadlift
Set the three numeric goals into a 12-week timeframe
Work backwards from the target lifts to the starting point
Jump 20-pounds per week in the squat
Jump 10-pounds per week in the bench press
Jump 15-pounds per week in the deadlift
If Challiet's competition goal for the national championships was to squat 900 pounds, bench press 500 and deadlift 860, he would work backwards in 20, 15 and 10 pound jumps: ergo his 12 week cycle would look like this…all weights are for a single rep.

Squat   bench press   deadlift   bodyweight
Week 1   680   390   695   258
Week 2   700   400   710   260
Week 3   720   410   725   262
Week 4   740   420   740   264
Week 5   760   430   755   266
Week 6   780   440   770   268
Week 7   800   450   785   270
Week 8   820   460   800   272
Week 9   840   470   815   274
Week 10   860   480   830   276
Week 11   880   490   845   278
Week 12   900   500   860   280
Week 13   10 days off   7 days off   14 days off   drop 5 pounds in 14 days
Competition   900   500   860   275
Mark would start off the cyle likely weighing around 255 and not in the best of shape. He basically did nothing in the "off season," defined as any period other then the 24 weeks preceding his two annual competitions. When it was time to get serious, Mark would use the first four weeks of the 12-week cyle to round himself into shape.

Integral to his approach toward strength training was his eating. Mark was actually a moderate eater, hardly the prototypical powerlifting glutton. Mark was not a big eater and ate what he wanted in the off-season. When the competition cycle commenced, he would get serious about his eating. This meant consistently eating his meals (he was prone to skip them in the off-season,) cutting out junk, mainly pizza and fast food, and upping his protein intake.

Once the competition cycle commenced, he systematically pushed his bodyweight up each week two pounds. What the lifters of the day stumbled onto was pretty profound: by being "out of bounds" in their eating in the off-season (hot dogs, cheese, pie, food from cans, sweets) when they tightened up and "switched out dirty calories for clean ones" they would eat more yet get leaner.

Imagine Chaillet starting off his 12-week cycle weighing 255 with a 13% body fat percentile and after twelve weeks, three months of concentrated effort he is weighing 280 with a 9% body fat percentile. This approach was expropriated in later years by elite bodybuilders. And trust me, even in the weeks leading up to the competition he was no food-Nazi. He literally ate more to get leaner.

The real work started in week five; now that he was rounding into shape, we started piling on the plates. Each siccessive week, come hell or high water, Chaillet would make his target single: the rep had to be strict as he was lifting is International Powerlifting Federation (IPF), the strictest judging on the face of the earth. The powerlifting approach flies in the face of every sacred cow of conventional resistance training. Mainstream experts universally favor volume over intensity whereas the classical Old School purposefully primitive ultra-minimalistic powerlifting strength training system is unappolegetically an intensity-based resistance training approach. In resistance training, less equals more if less is more intense.

The best lifters in history squatted, bench pressed and deadlifted one time a week, per lift, working up to a single, all out set. That was it. Think about this for a minute, think how quickly a person could get through a workout when only working up to a lone top set. This was the strategy used in the "core four" exercises, the squat, bench press, deadlift and usually some form of overhead press. The key to making this system productive and effective was meticulously adhering to the periodized game plan. The "Cycle" created a customized, individualized, preplanned, periodized training matrix wherein every poundage, every set, every rep, was forcast months ahead of time; the content of every workout for 12-weeks in advance preplanned.

At the highest levels, world champion strength athletes would never miss a single predetermined weight for an entire 12-week training cycle - imagine the degree of realistic self assessment a man must have to pull off such a feat? Amazing, yet men like Kirk Karwoski and Ed Coan did just that on a routine basis. The classic Old School periodized training phase would typically cycle the core four lifts (squat, bench press, deadlift, some form of overhead pressing) starting each lift off 10% below capacity and attmepting to end the cycle 5-10% above capacity.

Arnold Schwarzenegger: the ultimate Volume Trainer

Arnold Schwarzenegger world champion bodybuilder and practitioner of volume training
It took 660 sets of weight training per week to build this body

In the strength world we have a multitude of possibilities, a veritable army of competing strength theories and postulations. All promise to give you that which you seek from your resistance training efforts: a radical increase in power, strength and muscle. Even if they all systems worked and delivered equal results (and they don't!) by applying Occam's Razor to the strength world, our Purposefully Primitive training approach, based on the idea of doing fewer things better, would be the Ultimate Occam.

Ours is a strength strategy stripped and shorn of everything extraneous, with nothing left to pare, reduce or trim. Our approach is as sparse as a system can be made without losing its effectiveness. The system was originated by world and Olympic champion strength athletes and is a pure expression of restrained elegance; it is a testament to the effectiveness of extreme simplicity.

The vast majority of strength systems champion volume, i.e., more exercises done more often, more variety, more of everything. The inconvenient truth is intensity trumps volume when it comes to results; in progressive resistance training, results are defined as acquisition of strength and muscle. Our Purposefully Primitive strength system is a pure expression of Occam's Razor. How do we make it work? What is the secret to making less better than more? What enables extreme minimalism to work? The answer is intensity - the amount of training effort generated.

Arnold's exact training routine during his peak years...

Morning session, done Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Chest
Bench press   5 sets, 8-10 reps
Dumbbell flyes   5 sets, 8-reps
Inclline barbell pres   6 sets, 8-10 reps
Dips   5 sets to failure
Cable crossover   6 sets, 12-reps
Dumbbell pullover   5 sets, 10 reps
Back
Wide-grip chins to the front   6 sets to failure
T-bar row   5 sets, 8-reps
Seated cable row   6 sets, 8-reps
Deadlifts off a bo   6 sets, 15-reps
One-arm dumbbell row   5 sets, 8-reps
Legs
Squats   6 sets, 10-12 reps
Leg extensions   6 sets, 15-reps
Leg press   6 sets, 8-10 reps
Leg curl   6 sets,12-reps
Lunges   5 sets, 15-reps
Evening session
Calves
Standing calf raises   10 sets, 10-reps
Seated calf raises   8 sets, 15-reps
Donkey calf raises   6 sets, 12-reps
Forearms
Wrist roller   4 sets to failure
Reverse barbell curl   4 sets, 8-reps
Wrist curls off bench   4 sets, 10-reps
Morning session, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday
Arms
Barbell cheat curls   6 sets, 8-reps
Seated dumbbell curls   6 sets, 6-reps
Concentration curls   6 sets, 10-reps
Close grip bench press   6 sets, 8-reps
Triceps pushdown   6 sets, 10-reps
Lying dumbbell tricep press   6 sets, 8-reps
Overhead tricep press   6 sets, 10-reps
Shoulders
Seated barbell front press   6 sets, 8-10 reps
Standing lateral raises   6 sets, 10-reps
Standing dumbbell press   6 sets, 8-reps
Bent-over lateral raises   5 sets, 10-reps
Cable lateral raises   5 sets, 12-reps
Evening session
Standing calf raises   10 sets, 10-reps
Seated calf raises   8 sets, 15-reps
Donkey calf raises   6 sets, 12-reps
The identical morning routime, chest, back, legs, was done thrice weekly
The identical morning routine, biceps, triceps, shoulders, was done thrice weekly
The identical evening routine, calves, forearms, was done six times per week
M/W/F morning and evening total number of sets 381
T/T/S morning and evening total number of sets 282
Total number of weight training sets per week 663
Estimated total hours spent weight training weekly 20 hours
This type of approach, massive volume, was universally practiced by all the bodybuilding imortals of that era: Robbie Roberston, Frank Zane, Franco and Sergio. Jeff Everson recounted having seen Sergio Oliva at his awesome peak perform 10 sets of 10 reps with 315, alternated with sets to failure in the wide-grip chin.

"A goal without a plan is a wish."

"Do not doubt its possibilities because of the simplicity of the method!"

Dogen Zenji

Mark Chaillet displaying massive muscular development through extremely heavy powerlifting
"The world's greatest squatter: he stood 5'7 and weighs 275 in this photo

Occam's exercise menu: the ‘core four' and nothing more!

In our Occam-expressive strength system, the athlete concentrates on doing fewer things better. Four core lifts are each trained one time per week.

1. Squat
2. Bench press
3. Deadlift
4. Overhead press

Work up to a single top set using a proscribed poundage for a predetermined number of reps. Each exercise is done once a week. We work up to one top set. It sounds simple to the point of being retarded - yet this very strategy, one all out set in each lift once a week, was used by scores of powerlifting legends, including Kirk Karwoski. Here is a Kirk's 16-week squat cycle he used prior to breaking his own world record in the squat. At the 1995 National Powerlifting Championships, Kirk squatted 1,003 pounds, a world record that still stands 18 years later...I was his longtime coach and he and I devised this 16-week training template. I would draw attention to the fact that at this stage of his incredible career (six straight IPF world titles, seven straight national titles, 20 world records) Kirk was so accutely aware of his own capabilities and capacities that he could execute an entire 20 week training cycle without missing a single training rep; this cycle was so heavy that he was repping poundage no one else in the world could handle once!

Karwoski's 20 week world record squat training template

Week   March 1995   squat
20   8th   600 x 8 reps   no suit, wraps or belt
19   13th   620 x 8   
18   20th   640 x 8   
17   27th   off   
April
16   3rd   680 x 5 reps   no suit, wraps or belt
15   10th   710 x 5   Kirk puts on his lifting belt
14   17th   730 x 5   belt
13   24th   750 x 5   belt
May
12   1st   775 x 5   belt only
11   8th   800 x 5   belt only
10   15th   830 x 5   belt and knee wraps
9   22nd   850 x 5   belt, squat suit, knee wraps
8   29th   870 x 3   belt, suit, wraps
June
7   5th   900 x 3 reps   belt, suit, wraps
6   12th   cramping forced an end to squat session
5   19th   940 x 3   belt, suit, wraps
4   26th   960 x 2   belt, suit, wraps
July
3   3rd   980 x 2   suit, wraps, belt
2   10th   1,000 x 2   suit, wraps, belt
Competition: 943 1st attempt, 1,003 world record 2nd and 3rd attempt miss with 1,023

I served as Kirk's coach for a decade; this was the greatest squat cycle by the greatest squatter in history. Kirk set astronomical marks right from the very start.

Effective power training, Occam style, purposefully practiced a few select movements to near exclusion. The technical execution of these core lifts was approached with a reverance bordering on religious zealotry. Pristine technique was combined with full range-of-motion using compound multijoint exercises done using maximum poundage with reps rarely exceeding 5, and with lots of maximum triples and doubles. This style of training was so rugged, so body-shocking and traumatic that the individual lifts were only done one time per week; it would take 5-7 days for the shattered muscles to recover enough to train them again.

About the Author
As an athlete Marty Gallagher is a national and world champion in Olympic lifting and powerlifting. He was a world champion team coach in 1991 and coached Black's Gym to five national team titles. He's also coached some of the strongest men on the planet including Kirk Karwoski when he completed his world record 1,003 lb. squat. Today he teaches the US Secret Service and Tier 1 Spec Ops on how to maximize their strength in minimal time. As a writer since 1978 he’s written for Powerlifting USA, Milo, Flex Magazine, Muscle & Fitness, Prime Fitness, Washington Post, Dragon Door and now IRON COMPANY. He’s also the author of numerous books including Purposeful Primitive, Strong Medicine, Ed Coan’s book “Coan, The Man, the Myth, the Method" and numerous others. Read the Marty Gallagher biography here.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 17, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
^^^ Hell yeah!  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 17, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
If that program works so well why don't more powerlifters use it?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2021, 11:22:40 AM
Yeah...whole town did. The citizens, Law enforcement, our Sheriff, our Lifeguards, most of our city council and our Mayor. And yes, you do have a problem with it or wouldn’t have mentioned it.

Why would I have a problem with what goes on in Huntington Beach? I don't live there. Honestly, I don't have a problem with your attitude about COVID either. It has no impact on me. It does, however, say a lot about you and why it should come as no surprise to anyone when you make the comments you do regarding the pandemic. Perhaps, if I believed your opinion influenced millions of people, I'd have a problem with that. But when all is said and done, my guess is, you're not in a major leadership position, so whatever impact your thoughts are on something has little impact on society as a whole.

To be fair, the same is true about me and probably everyone else on Getbig. Like it or not, we have a small audience and are hardly movers and shakers. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 17, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
Why would I have a problem with what goes on in Huntington Beach? I don't live there. Honestly, I don't have a problem with your attitude about COVID either. It has no impact on me. It does, however, say a lot about you and why it should come as no surprise to anyone when you make the comments you do regarding the pandemic. Perhaps, if I believed your opinion influenced millions of people, I'd have a problem with that. But when all is said and done, my guess is, you're not in a major leadership position, so whatever impact your thoughts are on something has little impact on society as a whole.

To be fair, the same is true about me and probably everyone else on Getbig. Like it or not, we have a small audience and are hardly movers and shakers.
         
                                                                        WELL SAID
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 17, 2021, 11:45:15 AM
Why would I have a problem with what goes on in Huntington Beach? I don't live there. Honestly, I don't have a problem with your attitude about COVID either. It has no impact on me. It does, however, say a lot about you and why it should come as no surprise to anyone when you make the comments you do regarding the pandemic. Perhaps, if I believed your opinion influenced millions of people, I'd have a problem with that. But when all is said and done, my guess is, you're not in a major leadership position, so whatever impact your thoughts are on something has little impact on society as a whole.

To be fair, the same is true about me and probably everyone else on Getbig. Like it or not, we have a small audience and are hardly movers and shakers.

So you’re ok with year round lockdowns?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
Monday am - and the neighbors are still furious.  Straw is melting down over Trump while the roachs, rats, and racoons are all swarming about the property eating the trash.

Michelle Obama finally feels at home.  Rosie is coming to make a nest.  Michael Moore is coming to squat in the dump. 

And the pride parade and BLM are about to have dueling parades all over the burnout lawn and trash strewn about.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 17, 2021, 12:34:40 PM
     LET'S HAVE TRIAL BY COMBAT...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on May 17, 2021, 01:34:56 PM
One needle has proven success for decades upon decades, the other, not so much LOL

LOl.... I guess you're right.....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2021, 02:23:54 PM
So you’re ok with year round lockdowns?
Fair warning....this is more than a one liner....but to my credit not one word of it is copy and pasted....because all of it is simply my opinion, to which I am entitled.

You come up with the strangest questions. Whether I am okay with this or not is irrelevant. I didn't and don't like it, but I am not going to do battle over it either. If I owned a business which was negatively affected by COVID mandates, I would likely feel differently about it. Lockdowns seems to me like an overstatement. Oregon has probably had more shutdown time than California and it hasn't been a whole years worth, not even close.

Not everyone followed the guidelines Governor Brown issued. The strictest of which was 'shelter in place' a clever title for essentially being under quarantine. For example, almost all of the small independent gyms in the city never closed at all. The local Chinese restaurant I do business with simply went to takeout only, as did several other restaurants. Even 503, a high end, independently owned restaurant managed to stay in business by doing take out only when it was mandated and limiting capacity when service on premises was okay. Quite a feat considering it is a rather small restaurant that maybe can seat 75 people and that is accustomed to having live jazz performances on the weekends.

My thought all along was that eventually, government (and science) would cave to the economy over the advance of the pandemic. And it seems to me that is exactly what has happened. Around two weeks ago, Governor Brown increased the restrictions because the number of people diagnosed with COVID and the number who were hospitalized and/or dying on a daily basis was on the incline. This lasted less than a full week because of push back. Realistically, it is impossible to effect a real change in the matter of a few days when there is several week incubation period.

So, here we are today....mask free at the state level and with major businesses also dispensing with them if you are fully vaccinated. Ridiculous! Since there is no way they are going to ask for proof. Costco announced people were on their honor with regards to this.

One of the main differences between you and me is that you made an issue of fighting every aspect of COVID and the pandemic and I did not. Your position changed nothing for anyone except maybe you and I am guessing there were times when you had to wear a mask or simply not go shopping for groceries etc. Must have been rough for a guy who sometimes is on a crazy diet.

There are those of us who pretty much go with the flow and there are others, like you, who fight any and all change unless it happens to be something you and they wanted. The world needs both people like you and people like me. But when all is said and done, I am probably a lot calmer and happier than you are because I understand change is inevitable and you don't. Maybe it is just because I've been around a lot longer and have therefore witnessed more of it than you have.

Anyway...looks like we are head back to normal....and this is great. Right?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 17, 2021, 02:33:17 PM

funky41 , who is older U or Mr.Gulliani   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2021, 03:26:12 PM
Monday am - and the neighbors are still furious.  Straw is melting down over Trump while the roachs, rats, and racoons are all swarming about the property eating the trash.

Michelle Obama finally feels at home.  Rosie is coming to make a nest.  Michael Moore is coming to squat in the dump. 

And the pride parade and BLM are about to have dueling parades all over the burnout lawn and trash strewn about.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 17, 2021, 11:22:54 PM
No..it shouldn’t have. Period

Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2021, 01:12:16 AM
Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?

In NYS Cuomo was given all the resources he needed and never used them.  Instead he killed 15000 seniors. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 18, 2021, 07:18:30 AM
HAHAHA I take a few days away to go fish in the Keys and come back and this thread is still full of Trumpturd stupidity. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on May 18, 2021, 07:29:56 AM
Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?

This was the "two weeks to flatten the curve", so as not to overwhelm the hospitals.

Made sense.  Entirely rational.

It's just that the messaging after that became wildly inconsistent - more lockdowns, Walmart = OK :: Church = not ok,  Protests = OK :: outdoor gatherings = not.....no mask/mask....

And the reality was that they should have not locked down, sent more people outside where it's healthy to get vitamin D, and should have used this to message personal accountability around increasing metabolic health - losing weight, not eating shit, getting moving, etc.....but nope.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 18, 2021, 11:13:07 AM
funky41 , who is older U or Mr.Gulliani   ;D
                 
    rudy g by over 7 years. how old are you junior.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 18, 2021, 11:14:55 AM
A History Lesson In Bodybuilding
David Robson
David Robson
July 16, 2019 •  13 min read
Find out how bodybuilding has evolved over the years, broken down by different eras!

The physical culture of muscle-building has attracted followers for many years; well before the advent of competitive bodybuilding as we know it today.

Followers of the iron game will know that bodybuilding in its popular form began in earnest in the 1890s with the arrival of Mr. Eugene Sandow, whom the Mr. Olympia statue is modelled on.

However, weight training as a general athletic activity was initially practiced as a means to gain strength and measure power in ancient Egyptian and Greek societies. These societies would primarily use stones of various sizes and weights (a practice that would occur in one form or another throughout history) in their quest for body transformation. The celebration of the human body through muscular development was, in fact, one of the Greek ideals.

Physical culture (distinguishable from bodybuilding per se due to the lack of specific physical display as an end goal) can be traced back to 11th century India where stone dumbbell weights, known as Nals, were lifted by those wanting to develop their bodies to enhance health and stamina to help overcome the challenges of daily life. Gyms were commonplace in India during this period, and by the 16th century, weight training is thought to have been India's national pastime.

There was to be a long period between the 16th century physical movement in India and the beginning of bodybuilding (defined as training and dieting to develop one's body specifically for exhibitive purposes) as we know it today.

THE EARLY PERIOD 1890-1929
Eugene SandowEUGENE SANDOW
Toward the end of the 19th century, weight-training took on a new meaning for many, as the ancient tradition of stone-lifting, practiced initially by the Greeks and Egyptians, made way for a completely new system of training, with a new end-goal. Weightlifting for entertainment purposes emerged in Europe, signalling the beginning of a physical culture never before seen.

The intention was not to develop one's physique into a glorious spectacle per se, but to thrill crowds with amazing feats of strength—the professional strongman was the outcome of this intensified interest in weight-training. The modern sport of weightlifting was somewhat of a natural evolution from the comparatively primitive practice of stone-lifting in dark, dank dungeons.

Not surprisingly, weightlifting exponentially grew in popularity so much so that today the practices during the early period of 1890 to 1929 would seem, at best, archaic. The practices of the late 19th century strongmen included issuing challenges to fellow strongmen to see who could outlift the other as they traveled from town to town.

Other practices included pulling carts and lifting animals, much to the amusement of onlookers. The public loved to watch these men compete, possibly for the novelty value if nothing else. How their physiques looked did not factor into these men's displays of physical prowess. Indeed, a protruding stomach and thick, fatty limbs were commonplace among these competitors.

Symmetry and aesthetics were a foreign concept at this point. However, as the 20th century approached, a man who was to bridge the gap between the overweight and unsightly strongman and the bodybuilder as we know him today was to emerge.

Officially know as the first famous bodybuilder and the father of modern bodybuilding, Eugene Sandow (born Friedrich Muller), born in 1867, immediately became a phenomenon with his unprecedented combination of muscle quality and strength. He became a turn-of-the-century physical cultural icon who is referred to as one of bodybuilding's greatest, even in today's climate of genetic freaks.

Before the emergence of Sandow, proponents of physical culture were trying to find new ways to promote healthy lifestyles in line with the new phenomenon of weight training for the sake of physical demonstration. Tired of the overweight strongman image with its lack of emphasis on correct eating and high body-fat levels, they were looking for a representative who could promote the chiseled physique, and the subsequent ways of achieving this look. They found their man in Sandow.

Officially known as the first famous bodybuilder and the father of modern bodybuilding, Eugene Sandow, born 1867, immediately became a phenomenon.

"OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE FIRST FAMOUS BODYBUILDER AND THE FATHER OF MODERN BODYBUILDING, EUGENE SANDOW, BORN 1867, IMMEDIATELY BECAME A PHENOMENON."
Sandow himself started out in Europe as a professional strongman, outdoing all other strongmen to make a name for himself. He traveled to America in the 1890s to be billed as the world's strongest man, travelling the country and impressing people with his extraordinary feats of strength.

The most amazing thing about Sandow, however, was his beautifully symmetrical and densely muscular physique, which eventually positioned him as the first real bodybuilder and promoter of bodybuilding. Indeed, Sandow published the first bodybuilding magazine (Physical Culture), developed some of the first bodybuilding machinery, and appeared in numerous books and postcards, while continuing to tour America posing to sold-out audiences.

While Sandow continued to promote bodybuilding, weight-lifting contests were officially held for the first time with the World Championships in England in 1891. Weightlifting was also featured in the first modern Olympic Games in 1896, in Athens, Greece. Due to Sandow's influence, sales of barbells and dumbbells increased by a wide margin, and a whole bodybuilding industry was created, with Sandow earning thousands of dollars a week.

Sadly, Sandow suffered a fatal brain hemorrhage when, according to legend, he tried to pull his car from a ditch in the interests of physical display. Sandow's legacy lives on in the increasing popularization of bodybuilding as a sport into the 21st century. Sandow judged the first bodybuilding contest ever held, and his image is immortalized on the current Mr. Olympia statue.

THE FIRST BODYBUILDING CONTEST EVER HELD
THE QUALITIES SANDOW LOOKED FOR
General development
Equality or balance of development
The condition and tone of the tissues
General health
Condition of the skin
The first bodybuilding show, staged in 1891 and billed as "The Great Show," was developed and promoted by none other than the great Eugene Sandow.

After popularizing bodybuilding though frequent strength exhibitions and posing displays across Europe and America, Sandow, 34, decided, after three years of planning, that the time was right. He would provide all Sandow students in the U.K with the opportunity to display their physiques in a competition setting replete with a full judging panel and paying audience.

The contest was advertised three years in advance in the first edition of Sandow's magazine to promote the further spread of physical display and pride in one's physique. "To afford encouragement to those who are anxious to perfect their physiques," was the statement issued, and many enthusiasts took this sentiment to heart, as exemplified by the large turnout of contestants and sold-out crowd of 2000.

The total prize money came to 1,000 guineas, which equated to more than $5,000 at the time. First place would receive the equivalent of $2,500 and a gold Sandow statuette, while second and third would take home silver and bronze statuettes respectively.

In 1901, the first ever bodybuilding contest was held at England's Royal Albert Hall"IN 1901, THE FIRST EVER BODYBUILDING CONTEST WAS HELD AT ENGLAND'S ROYAL ALBERT HALL."
In order to compete in this contest of contests, all competitors first had to have placed in a smaller regional show—a bold move on Sandow's part at the time. However, this system proved viable, and on Saturday, September 14, 1901, England's Royal Albert Hall was packed to overflowing with spectators and competitors. Sandow believed in giving his audience their money's worth, and provided various athletic displays as a form of precompetition entertainment.

These displays included wrestling, gymnastics, and fencing, and, at their completion, the real athletes, the bodybuilders, made their entrance. The bodybuilders, of which there were 60, marched to the beat of Sandow's own composition, The March of the Athletes, wearing the required costume: black tights, black jockey belt, and leopard skins.

As for the physiques, the paying public was highly impressed. One journalist remarked, "To stand in these men's ranks is a distinction."

The judging criteria was stringent, and Sandow made it clear that points would be awarded for attributes other than sheer size. Indeed, Sandow was looking for symmetrically even development—the qualities that many say are overlooked in bodybuilding today.

The man judged to have had the right combination of all of these qualities was William L. Murray of Nottingham, Great Britain, who took home the gold Sandow and the title: Winner Of The World's First Big Bodybuilding Contest.

Following this contest, bodybuilding culture became increasingly widespread. Many entrepreneurs seized upon the notion of physical development, and began distributing bodybuilding equipment and literature. Bernarr Macfadden, who became referred to as the father of physical culture, sold his popular chest expander and went on to become one of the greatest physical identities on the early 20th century.

He published one of the first bodybuilding magazines, "Physical Culture," and eventually became the most successful magazine publisher ever. In 1921, Macfadden helped to push another major protagonist for the physical movement,Charles Atlas, into the spotlight.

The First Bodybuilding Contest Ever Held
Well-developed for that time, but smooth and underdeveloped by today's standards, Atlas (Real name Angelo Siciliano) became immensely popular and, through his standing as an expert on physical development, acquired the rights to a mail-order course called dynamic tension, an exercise system developed by Macfadden 20 years earlier.

The advertisements featuring the young man getting sand kicked into his face, only to retreat into a world of physical self-development, and eventually turn the tables on his bullying perpetrator, served as inspiration for many who took up bodybuilding upon seeing them. This advertisement is thought to be part of the most successful advertising campaign in history.

By the end of the 1920s, barbells, dumbbells and various other exercise devices were sold the world over as the general public grew to acknowledge the importance of becoming fit and strong. Famous bodybuilders were becoming household names, and bodybuilding contests were being held frequently. Bodybuilding finally broke free of the association with weightlifting for the purposes of getting strong, and became, for many, a worthwhile pursuit in its own right.

THE CULTURE SOLIDIFIES 1930-1970S
The Culture Solidifies
As the bodybuilding movement progressed into the 1930s, adherents were becoming more interested in developing balanced physiques and losing body fat as training techniques and new developments in exercise equipment advanced. The '30s were the beginning of what is affectionately know as the golden age of bodybuilding, where gyms and the associated practices of training in groups and posing in front of mirrors become commonplace among followers.

On the California Coast, weightlifting on the beachfront became popular among both amateur and professional bodybuilders. The most famous of these hangouts was situated in Santa Monica, and was called Muscle Beach.

Bodybuilding competition intensified when the AAU (the Amateur Athletic Union) established the Mr. America in 1939, where participants, although not strictly bodybuilders, were required to demonstrate athletic skills. These competitors were advised to get into the best possible shape to increase their chances of winning, and the more they trained specifically to improve their bodies, the bigger the weight-training emphasis became.

By 1940, the first modern bodybuilding event had arrived, the Mr. America, which was won by John Grimek, who also won it the following year. Grimek, unparalleled in muscular development up until that point, became the catalyst for a new direction in physical improvement. As bodybuilding became more popular, the quality of physique improved.

With physiques arguably more impressive than Grimek, Clancy Ross and Steve Reeves made their mark in the '40s. Ross won the Mr. America in 1945, and many believe him to have been the first modern bodybuilder, although at this time bodybuilding was still regarded with skepticism by many.

However, Steve Reeves came along and further popularized bodybuilding due to his movie star looks and perfectly proportioned physique. Reeves eventually became revered as the greatest bodybuilder of all time after winning the Mr. America and the Mr. Universe (the other big contest to have sprung up in light of the success of Mr. America). He went on to become one of the first heroic movie stars, gaining a fan base of thousands.

Other bodybuilders, such as Reg Park, followed Reeves' example, and became great champions. Bodybuilding was truly developing at an exponential rate with the IFBB (the International Federation of Bodybuilders) being formed by Ben Weider in 1946 and NABBA (the National Amateur Bodybuilders Association) being formed in England in 1950.

THE GREAT FRANK ZANE, BILL PEARL, AND SERGIO OLIVA.
THE GREAT FRANK ZANE, BILL PEARL, AND SERGIO OLIVA.
The first large-scale bodybuilding competitions were held by these organizations: the Mr. Olympia in 1965 by the IFBB and the Mr. Universe in 1950 by NABBA. The 1960s marked the period during which the most influential bodybuilder of all time would make his mark. Arnold Schwarzenegger beat Dennis Tinereno for the Mr. America title in 1967 and immediately began dominating the international competition. He would go on to win Mr. Universe on five occasions and Mr. Olympia seven times.

The Mr. Olympia had been won first by Larry Scott in 1965, who went on to win again in '66. Sergio Oliva won in '67, '68 and '69. Arnold cemented his spot as the number one bodybuilder in the world by winning the Olympia for the next five years straight, and again in 1980. He would also conquer the movie world, becoming a Hollywood star.

As bodybuilding increased in popularity into the 1970s, Arnold and other superstars such as three-time Mr. Olympia winner Frank Zane, Dave Draper, and Mike Mentzer became household names. The movie industry often specifically targeted muscular actors, such was the marketability of this type of physique. As the muscular body became more desirable, the gym industry gained momentum, and the industry as a whole became lucrative.

THE ONE, THE ONLY—LARRY SCOTT.
THE ONE, THE ONLY—LARRY SCOTT.
In the 1970s, the IFBB rose to prominence as the dominant bodybuilding organization. Toward the end of this period, the IFBB consisted of more than 100 member countries, and had become the sixth-largest sporting federation in the world.

Bodybuilding was regarded as a legitimate sport, had become a multibillion-dollar-industry and had adherents in all major countries.

BODYBUILDING'S RECENT HISTORY 1980-PRESENT TIME
By the 1980s, bodybuilding had become a popular sport with great crossover appeal. Film stars and athletes from many sports were increasingly using bodybuilding to improve their marketability and performance. Actors like Sylvester Stallone and Chuck Norris had become noticeably more muscular, as had athletes Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis, for example.

The practices of weight training and dieting, so central to the bodybuilding ethos, had clearly been adopted by mainstream society to increase profile and enhance performance.

Competitive bodybuilders were also becoming more muscular as an increasing emphasis on size dictated a more extreme approach to physical development. Anabolic steroids had been used during the '60s, and their use correspondingly increased as bodybuilding grew in popularity.

Prize money, sponsorships, and endorsements had increased due to the growth of the bodybuilding industry, and had become a major motivating factor for many entering the sport.

A general trend in aesthetics and balance gave way to a mass-at-all-costs approach, and top placers were generally those carrying the most size, especially into the '90s and beyond 2000.

Although steroids were used prior to the '80s, the stacking of various types of steroids (using more than one at any one time) and use of dangerous growth hormones and insulin were becoming commonplace as the '80s drew to a close.

Amateurs and professionals alike engaged in this disturbing trend, with the intention of making a name for themselves and increasing their earning potential.

Indeed, with the increase in competing bodybuilders came increased competition among these athletes.

This would mean a great bodybuilder would have to become greater to distance themselves from the closest rival, who would be taking the same extreme approach to developing their physique.

As the '90s approached, the quality of physique improved due to advances in training techniques, dietary strategies, and, yes, drugs. The '80s witnessed the rise of Lee Haney, who won seven Mr. Olympia's. His physique at around 240 pounds had surpassed any other bodybuilder up until that point.

By the 1980s, Film stars and athletes from many sports were increasingly using bodybuilding to improve their marketability and performance.
"BY THE 1980S, FILM STARS AND ATHLETES FROM MANY SPORTS WERE INCREASINGLY USING BODYBUILDING TO IMPROVE THEIR MARKETABILITY AND PERFORMANCE."
When he retired, Haney had beaten Arnold's record of six Olympias, and in the eyes of many, surpassed him in terms of muscular development.

Other notable bodybuilders of this period were Lee Labrada, (one of the few successful under-200-pound professional bodybuilders due to his classical symmetry and presentation skills), Vince Taylor, Shawn Ray, and Mike Quinn. Shawn Ray would go on to compete throughout the '90s, placing highly in every Olympia he entered.

The '90s could truly be defined as the era where competitors demonstrated a leap forward in terms of muscle mass. Dorian Yates won five Mr. Olympias between 1992 and 1997, and heralded a new benchmark in mass at 265 pounds ripped.

In fact, all professional bodybuilders of this era demonstrated a distinctly different, more massively defined physique to that of the '80s, as extreme practices prevailed. And just when everyone thought that Yates had redefined the massive physique, along came a man who would surpass him by at least 20 pounds.

Ronnie Coleman routinely competed at around 290 pounds, and took the competition physique beyond what was, up until 10 years ago, thought possible. Co-competitors Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson also competed light years ahead of anything seen throughout the '80s and '90s.

Legendary bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger played an active role in bodybuilding's development throughout the '90s and beyond. He began promoting the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic bodybuilding championships in 1989, a contest that gradually incorporated other fitness-related events to become one of the most popular athletic events in the world.

In the '90s, Arnold became the Chairman for the President's Council on Fitness, and used bodybuilding-related practices to inspire the American public to get fit and active.

Bodybuilding also became popularized through various media publications, most notably Muscle and Fitness (spawned from '60s publication Muscle Builder and Power) which hit the stands in 1980, and its offshoot, Flex magazine, released in 1983.

In 2004, Arnold Schwarzenegger became the executive editor of both Muscle and Fitness and Flex Magazine, magazines he appeared on the cover of 30 and 20 times respectively.

Media across the board have seized the opportunity to capitalize on bodybuilding's success. Pay-per-view have broadcast the Mr. Olympia while programs promoting the bodybuilding lifestyle such as Cory Everson's show on ESPN gained momentum.

ARNOLD AT THE 2004 MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST WITH RONNIE COLEMAN.
ARNOLD AT THE 2004 MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST WITH RONNIE COLEMAN.
The Internet has also exploded with thousand of bodybuilding sites, many very professionally done, with worldwide followings. Bodybuilding.com ranks as probably the biggest and best of these, with thousand of articles and information on all aspects of the sport.

Bodybuilding clearly has come a long way since its primitive beginnings, back in the early 1890s. Its popularity cannot be denied, and it will continue to grow if its current rate of growth is anything to go by. However, with the number of professional shows increasing coupled with the availability of an increasing array of sophisticated performance enhancing drugs (and other substances such as synthanol and implants (Lou Feriggno)) the actual sport of bodybuilding will probably continue to be characterized as a curiosity of physical extremes.

On the other hand, bodybuilding also has a growing natural movement where competitors compete free of potentially harmful substances, and enjoy corresponding health benefits.

Ultimately, the practices of weight training and eating a balanced diet, central to bodybuilding success at all levels, will enhance the lives of many. In this respect, bodybuilding can be seen in a positive light, as a beneficial sport.

On the competitive side, many bodybuilders will continue to use drugs to enhance their chances of winning. As to the future of the sport, only time will tell.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2021, 12:51:37 PM
Hopefully Straw is spending his time away from this thread cleaning up the trash and the garbage dump so the neighbors are not poisoned by toxic fumes and hazardous waste. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 18, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
Hopefully Straw is spending his time away from this thread cleaning up the trash and the garbage dump so the neighbors are not poisoned by toxic fumes and hazardous waste. 

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 18, 2021, 06:14:07 PM
HAHAHA I take a few days away to go fish in the Keys and come back and this thread is still full of Trumpturd stupidity.
Did you ??? What did you catch?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 18, 2021, 06:19:42 PM
Did you ??? What did you catch?

I'm thinkin' it's the new strain of the "LemonAIDS".   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 18, 2021, 06:22:05 PM
I'm thinkin' it's the new strain of the "LemonAIDS".   ;D
I assume lurkingformen is the kind of guy that has the deckhand cast his line for him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 18, 2021, 06:37:36 PM
I assume lurkingformen is the kind of guy that has the deckhand cast his line for him.

Yup.  In a  kinda sorta reacharound "cast" way.   I would bet his mother stapled her cuntlette shut once he queefed out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 18, 2021, 06:43:08 PM


A History Lesson In Bodybuilding
David Robs



.....Arnold Schwarzenegger beat Dennis Tinereno for the Mr. America title in 1967 .....................




B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 10:28:41 AM

B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
[/quote         ]idiot who wrote it meant the nabba mr universe. on to page 62
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 10:32:13 AM
      two of my trumptard friends who followed his advices...On Wednesday I took a stress test with my cardiologist and on Monday I see the pulmonary doctor. These are all results of Covid that I had back in November. I was hospitalized after the third time visiting an emergency room, and finally on Thanksgiving day they decided to admit me to the hospital only after my PCP called and told them they had no choice but to admit me. I ran a fever of 104 for almost 14 days! Passed out on my kitchen floor banged my head pretty bad and had a big lump on my head. I went to the emergency room was turned away after five hours and told to go home and take 1500 mg of Tylenol every four hours and every six hours to ibuprofen. If I wasn’t feeling any better I was supposed to come back. On Thanksgiving day my son took me to the hospital because I was not doing any better and that was within a week of being in the hospital the first time. They turned me away I told me I tested positive for Covid and I had to go home call my PCP and if they wanted me admitted they would have to make those arrangements! Can you believe it? Can you believe that I was there a week before and they knew I had tested positive for Covid and sent me home after five hours with those ridiculous instructions and then I come back a week later and I turned away again and I had to call my PCP in order to get me into the emergency room. By the time they admitted me and put me in an intensive care room it could’ve been almost too late for me because the doctor already told me that if I did not respond to the medication that they were ordering he wanted to know if I wanted to be kept on life-support! Today I am struggling with her left eye that we are doctoring for a partial detachment of my retina due to running a fever for 14 days and then passing out hitting my head on the floor, I’m seeing a pulmonary specialist because I have a hard time breathing now I cannot wear a mask on my face for any length of time, and I’m seeing a cardiologist!! My cardiologist told me under no circumstances should I be putting a mask on my face with all these breathing problems I have going on right now in my life. Secondly he told me no one has the right to ask me if I had shots or not. I have been advised by my family doctor my cardiologist to not take this shot absolutely under no circumstances and I to take this Shot. The cardiologist told me but I and better off than people who have taken two shots. My body has built up it’s on antibodies not just from the Covid but from all the antibiotics plus the remdisavier I was on for five days. He said the fact that I had Covid so bad was my shot and then I was instructed to absolutely not take the shot for fear of having too many antibodies in my system and throwing me into a relapse which could end up killing me. I can’t afford to have Cove it worse than what I did the first time. So I will listen to my specialists and my professionals and not take the advice of Andrew Fauci or Joe sleepy Biden or Tom Wolfe. After all, isn’t that what I pay my health specialist for?    NUMBER 2 trumptard   Maybe you are happy about being vaccinated and I was until this morning. So much for Sleepy Joe saying you don’t need to wear a mask if you had both your shots and it’s more than two weeks after your second shot because most of your big cooperate businesses are still requiring you to wear a mask. So now I understand why people are hesitant to take the shot. What’s the point if you still have to wear a mask. I had Covid and got the shots. Not happy. Will boycott these businesses.    AT FIRST THEY SAID VIRUS WAS A DEMONRAT PLOY TO BEAT TRUMP IN THE 2020 ELECTION
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 10:34:28 AM

B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
[/quote         ]idiot who wrote it meant the nabba mr universe. on to page 62
            1967 Mr Universe - NABBA



Overall Winner Arnold Schwarzenegger

Tall
1     Arnold Schwarzenegger   (Austria)
2     Dennis Tinerino   (United States)
3     Henry Greaves   (Trinidad)
4     Dick Engelbrecht   (South Africa)
5     Michael Callen   (England)
6     Frank Richard   (England)

Medium
1     Albert Beckles   (Barbados)
2     Roy Callendar   (Barbados)
3     Arthur Fairhurst   (England)
4     Bill Whitehead   (England)
5     Roy Perrott   (England)
6     Francois Van Den Berg   (South Africa)

Short
1     John Citrone   (England)
2     Wilfred Sylvester   (St Lucia)
3     Terry Parkinson   (England)
4     Michael Piliotis   (England)
5     Brian House   (England)
6     Harry McFarlane   (Jamaica)

Most Muscular
1     Wilfred Sylvester
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
Pearl and Schwarzenegger Win Mr. Universe Titles
By George Greenwood
Editor, Man's World Magazine
THE 19th annual Mr. Universe Contests sponsored by Britain's National Amateur Bodybuilders' Association (NAABA) were staged at London's Victoria Palace Theatre on Saturday, September 23rd.

Nearly 70 of the world's best-built men traveled from various parts of the globe to compete in the amateur and professional classes. Never before was such an array of talent assembled on one stage.

All tickets for the big show were sold out more than two months before the event took place. The theatre was packed to capacity with enthusiasts thronging the gangways. Several hundred optimists, who had hoped to squeeze in, had to be satisfied with listening to the roars of applause as they were unable to gain entry.

As in previous years, the, amateur Mr. Universe Contest was split into three separate classes: class 3 for men up to and including 5'6"; class 2 for men over 5'6" up to 5'9"; class 1 for men over 5'9".

Amateur Class 3 --

Seventeen competitors linde up for the short men's class with representatives from England, St. Lucia, France, Sweden, Singapore, Jamaica, Barbados and Wales. Speculation was rife. Could the current Mr. Britain, Wilfred Sylvester, in superb shape, make it a double? He looked good, in fact, quite fantastic, but was not quite a match for husky John Citrone of England. John at 5'4" has 18" upper arms and a 47" chest with other measurements to match. Very muscular and very strong, he is perhaps one of the most popular bodybuilders in Britain today.

Amateur Class 2 --

This class also had 17 entries with men from Germany, South Africa, Belgium, Spain, Norway, England, Malta, Barbados, Sweden, Holland, Italy and Wales. Muscular sensation, Albert Beccles of Barbados, took first place, with Roy Callandar, also of Barbados, second. Third position went to Arthur Fairhurst of England. Albert Beccles has simply superb definition with upper arms taping 19". His physique resembles that of the great Melvin Wells. A worthy victor indeed!

Amateur Class 1 --

Eleven giants from South Africa, India, England, Jamaica, Scotland, Trinidad, Mexico, Austria and U.S.A. made a spectacle worth traveling a long way to see. Current Mr. America, Dennis Tinerino was a big favourite, but the question was, could he defeat the young Austrian giant, Arnold Schwarzenegger? Arnold, in the best shape of his short but brilliant career, proved too good for everyone. He carried off the Class 1 title and was nominated Amateur Mr. Universe 1967. Just look at his measurements: height 6'2", weight 245, neck 18", waist 32", thigh 27", calf 18½", upper arm 21½ ", chest 57"-age 20! He is doubtless the biggest man in the world of bodybuilding and thoroughly deserves his victory. Tinerino was a good second and with Henry Greaves of Trinidad third.

The Professionals --

Two classes only in this section: class 2 - 5'8" and under, and Class 1 for men over 5'8".

In Class 2 the lineup included champions from France, Italy, Guadeloupe, Norway, and the standard was high. Diminutive Charles Sintat took first prize in this class. He is perhaps the most muscular man in France today. Guiseppe Deiana of Italy was second, with Ludwig Ingebregsten of Norway third.

Professional Class 1 --

Everybody present was waiting to see the mighty Bill Pearl. He did not disappoint, and really looked magnificent as he stood in line with competitors from Germany, England, France and Guadeloupe amongst others. There could be no doubt whatsoever that Pearl was going to win. In marvelous shape, he is rightly regarded as one of the top bodybuilders of the century. Just look at his measurements. Height 5'11", weight 230, neck 18¾", waist 34", thigh 28½", calf 19", upper arm 19½ ", chest 54". Bill is 36, but definitely in best ever condition. He "brought the house down" with his superb display of muscular posing and delighted the audience with his friendly smile. A great champion, a great showman and a professional in the true sense of the word.

Thus ended another great Mr. Universe Show. Show organizer, Oscar Heidenstam, one of the big personalities of the bodybuilding game, is to be congratulated on a faultlessly organized and presented programme, one more success to his long list of achievements.

PHOTO CAPTIONS
- Bill Pearl at left posing with his trophy just after winning the professional Mr. Universe title. Bill looks great, and his victory was an easy one.

- Photo below shows Dennis Tinerino and Arnold Schwarzenegger. It was a close thing between Dennis and Arnold, but Arnold with his huge massiveness and height finally won out. This photo by Loveday gives an interesting comparison of their physiques.

- At left is a fine back pose of Schwarzenegger. Arnold is 20 years of age and has 20½ inch arms. See the July, Vol. 26, No. 5 issue of Iron Man for a full story on Arnold.

- At the right and upper left we hae John Citrone, winner of Class III Amateur (see his story in a coming issue). At the upper right is Wilf Sylvester, the present Mr. Britain (a story is forthcoming on him also). Citrone photo by Temperley. Sylvester photo by Loveday. Amateur class winners are shown at bottom, with John Citrone class 3 winner; Arnold Schwazenegger Class 1; Albert Beckles Clas 2 winner. Photo by Greenwood.

Facts and Figures
Statistics of those competing in the 1967 Professional and Amateur Contests



AMATEUR
Class 3 (up to and including 5 ft. 6 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
1   COX, George   England   30   5-2   140   15½   29   23   15½   15¾   44
2   SYLVESTER, Wilfred   St. Lucia   21   5-3   168   16¾   27   24   16¾   17¼
3   WILD, Alan   England   30   5-4   158   16½   29½   24   15½   16½   46
4   VAUGHAN, Leslie   England   27   5-4½   165   16¾   31   23   15   17   48
5   LECREN, Jean   France   23   5-4¾   173   16½   -   24½   15   16¾   46½
6   ANDERSON, Lars-Goran   Sweden   25   5-4¾   170   -   30   25   16   17   48
7   HEMSWORTH, William   England   30   5-4¾   161   16   29½   24¼   15¾   17   48
8   CHANDRAN, S. R.   Singapore   25   5-4   158   16   28   23   15   16¾   48½
9   CITRONE, John   England   24   5-4   172   16   30   24   16   18   47
10   PARKINSON, Terry   England   27   5-5   180   16   31   24½   16½   18   48
11   McFARLANE, Harry   Jamaica   28   5-5½   174   17¼   28   25   16¾   17   47½
12   HOUSE, Brian   England   28   5-5½   168   17   29½   24   17   16¾   47½
13   BAKER, Michael   England   30   5-5½   174   16½   29   24   15½   17   48
14   WOOD, Theophilus   Barbados   31   5-6   180   17½   29   25   16½   17½   48
15   BROWN, Ronnie   England   29   5-6   172   17   29   25   17   17½   47½
16   PILIOTIS, Michael   England   26   5-6   175   16¼   31   25   16   17¾   47
17   ASHTON, Ken   Wales   27   5-5   166   16½   29   23½   15   16   47


AMATEUR
Class 2 (over 5 ft. 6 in. and up to and including 5 ft. 9 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
18   WEIMER, Friedrich   Germany   25   5-6½   172   16½   30   24½   15½   17   48¾
19   VAN DEN BERG, Francois   S. Africa   25   5-6½   190   16½   30   25   16   18   51½
20   JACOBS, Serge   Belgium   27   5-6½   166   15¾   30   24¼   16   15¾   48
21   ASTORGA, Jesus   Spain   25   5-7   170   17¾   31   24¼   15½   17¾   48¼
22   LUNDE, Lars   Norway   19   5-7½   169   15¾   27½   23½   16¼   16¾   47
23   FAIRHURST, Arthur   England   30   5-7½   174   17½   29½   25½   16½   17¾   49½
24   CAMILLERI, Frans   Malta   31   5-7½   180   16½   31   24   16   17   48
25   PERROTT, Roy   England   30   5-7   180   17   31   24   16   17   48
26   WHITEHEAD, Bill   England   29   5-8¼   190   17   31   25   16¾   17¾   50
27   CALLENDER, Roy   Barbados   22   5-8   196   16½   31   25½   16½   18   49½
28   ALLEN, Gordon   England   26   5-8   182   17½   31   25   16   17½   49
29   RUDMAN, Janko   Sweden   28   5-8   185   18   31   25½   17   18½   52
30   BLOKZIEL, Bob   Holland   32   5-8½   190   16½   -   24½   16   18   -
31   BECKLES, Albert   Barbados   29   5-8½   182   16½   31   25   16¾   19   48½
32   GREER, Leslie   England   28   5-8¾   185   17   32   24½   16   17¾   49½
33   TAMPELLINI, Ruggero   Italy   28   5-9   182   17   29   25   16¼   17¾   49
34   MAGGS, Alcwyn   Wales   31   5-9   198   17½   31   26   17½   18   52


AMATEUR
Class 1 (over 5 ft. 6 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
36   ARENSTEIN, Soll   S. Africa   28   5-9½   214   -   32   26   17   19   52
37   DUTTA,DulalKanti   India   34   5-9½   195   16½   31   24   15½   17¼   48
38   CALLAN, Michael   England   24   6-0   190   16   31   25   16½   17   46
39   HIBBERT, Gladstone   Jamaica   26   5-10   205   18½   30   26   17½   18½   49
40   RICHARD, Frank   England   21   5-10   203   16½   31   25   17   17   49
41   YEATS,Edward   Scotland   26   5-10   196   17   32   24½   16   16¾   49
42   ENGELBRECHT, Dick   S. Africa   -   5-11   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
43   DOWNS, Vic   England   38   5-11   220   17   32   26½   17½   19½   50½
44   GREAVES, Henry   Trinidad   35   5-11   200   17   31   25¾   16¾   18¾   49
45   CHOUSAL, Alfonso   Mexico   24   6-0   190   16½   29   25½   16½   17½   50
46   TINERINO, Dennis   USA   21   6-0   225   18   33   27½   18   19¾   53½
47   SCHWARZENEGGER, Arnold   Austria   20   6-2   245   18   32   27   18½   20½   56½


PROFESSIONAL
Class 2 (5 ft. 8 in. and under)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
49   SINTAT, Charles   France   29   5-4¾   175   16¾   27½   24¼   16   17¼   46
50   DEIANA, Guiseppe   Italy   25   5-4¾   163   16¾   26½   24½   17¼   17¼   49
51   GILLES, Vincent   Guadeloupe   35   5-5¼   185   17¾   30¼   25   16½   18¾   50¼
52   INGEBREGSTEN, Ludwig   Norway   22   5-5¼   176   16¾   30   24¼   16   17¼   49
53   PICHEREAU, Maurice   France   35   5-7¼   172   16½   30¾   24   -   16¾   47½
54   DEMANES, Jean   France   27   5-7¾   190   16½   30   25   16   17   48


PROFESSIONAL
Class 1 (over 5 ft. 8 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
56   BLOMER, Karl   Germany   29   5-9¼   196   17¼   31   26¾   16½   18   51½
57   BUBB, John   England   32   5-8½   190   16½   32   25   16½   17   47
58   FRANCOIS, Roger   France   31   5-8¾   198   17   30½   26   16½   17¼   50
59   GIBBONS, Derek   England   35   5-10½   202   17½   32½   25½   16¾   17   50½
60   KLEBER, Nicolas   Guadeloupe   -   5-11   210   -   -   -   -   19½   -
61   PEARL, William   USA   36   5-11   230   18¾   34   28½   19   19½   -
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 10:35:59 AM
THE MR. UNIVERSE CONTEST
BY OSCAR HEIDENSTAM
ANOTHER GREAT NABBA MR. UNIVERSE CONTEST is over. This being the 18th one. Each year the contest proves just as interesting and exciting as the one before with the Mr. Universe titles being hotly contested to the very end.

This year 38 contestants competed in the amateur division, while only 11 took part in the professional category. This smaller professional entry was due to Bill Pearl's entry which was made known months in advance. His entry no doubt was responsible for keeping some of the contestants away. Even so, besides Bill there were some worthy competitors in the professionals.

Twenty-eight different countries were represented in NABBA this year. Our international panel of judges included men from the USA, Italy, France, Belgium, West Indies and England. All these men on our panel of judges have been associated with the sport and physique contests for years. Each being well qualified to judge and know the kind of man they feel should be a Mr. Universe title holder.

As is our custom, the prejudging takes place the day before the actual contest so as to give the judges plenty of time to make their selection. This year, however, we were honored by several U.S. visitors and two judges. This included Dr. Craig Whitehead and Leo Stern. Leo Stern operates a modern health studio in San Diego, while Dr. Whitehead, a captain in the air force has competed and placed high in several Mr. America contests. The other Americans on the scene to "take in the sights" were the famous old-timer, Henry "Milo" Steinborn and his son, Henry, Jr., Bob Hinds the muscular marvel, and several others whose names escape me at this time. We hope, however, that all these visiting Americans were sufficiently impressed by our efforts as all the others who have attended our show in the past.

We started judging early, around 10 o'clock with the small men. This was:

Class-3 Under and up to 5' 6"

This is always a rough class and a number of wonderfully developed men competed in this category. The first three selected in this class are those who have been in competition last year and each has won the Mr. Britain title. This division was won by John Citrone, who also won this class last year. In second place was Wilfred Sylvester of St. Lucia, and third place went to Terry Parkinson from England.

Wilfred, though placing second, was selected as the winner of the Most Muscular Man award, a title which we added to the Mr. Universe contest this year.

Class-2 Over 5' 6" and up to 5' 9"

This year this class had the greatest number of contestants. Some excellent contestants competed in this class and gave the judges something to ponder. Albert Beckles from Barbados jumped from fifth place last year into the top position this year. His muscularity was needle-sharp and he appeared in fantastic shape. I doubt if anyone ever had arms with such high peaks as Albert displayed in this contest. In second place was Roy Callender, a newcomer from Barbados who is another impressively built lad. And third place went to a much-improved Arthur Fairhurst who comes from England and who last year did not place in the competition at all.

Class-1 5' 9" and Over

This is always the most eagerly awaited class and a real battle of giants. I am sure the fellows who failed to show up anticipated stronger competition than they could offer, so failed to be present. Vic Downs of Canada informed us he would be over yet failed to show up, and probably competed in another contest held in New York. We had, in fact, arranged three other shows for him while he would be visiting but apparently he felt he couldn't win so did not come over this year.

In this class great speculation hovered around the newly-crowned Mr. America, Dennis Tinerino, and the young Austrian giant Arnold Schwarzenegger who, as readers will remember, caused quite a sensation with his appearance last year. Had Vic Downs made the trip this class would have been hotly contested.

Schwarzenegger's improvement since last year was phenomenal, especially his legs. He weighed in at 248 pounds and boasted 21½ inch arms, with a 57 inch expanded chest. Arnold stands 6' 2½" in height and is hard as nails.

Tinerino made the mistake of not doing any back poses at the prejudging, allowing some of the more experienced judges to conclude that he had a weak back. It was only after the judges singled out small groups for a closer inspection that Dennis displayed his back. Good as Dennis was he was simply swamped by the huge Austrian, though in other years he could have won comfortably. I was happy to note that both of the American judges voted for the youthful Austrian which made Arnold's victory unanimous.

So it was Arnold Schwarzenegger 1st, Dennis Tinerino 2nd, and Henry Greaves of Trinidad 3rd.

The professional entries were next called up after the task of selecting the amateur Mr. Universe was completed. In this category Bill Pearl dominated the field. He gave everyone a lesson in performance. Although this contest did not have the usual entries, several of the competing men were worthy contestants.

Only two classes for the professionals are held. Class-2 which is under and up to 5' 8" was won by Charles Sintat of Guadeloupe but resides in Paris, and second place went to Guiseppe Deiana of Italy -- both well-built fellows.

Bill Pearl won his height division and the overall professional Mr. Universe title.

Besides the Mr. Universe competition a Miss Bikini Beauty contest is also staged. A line-up of this group appears on page 36 in this edition.

The whole affair was well-staged and the contest was a sellout long before the date of the show. Now plans are being made for next year's gala affair when we will again see new faces and, maybe, new champions!

PHOTO CAPTIONS
- The two Mr. Universe champions. On the left is the amateur winner Arnold Schwarzenegger from Austria, and on the right is Bill Pearl from USA.

- Winners of the three amateur height categories. Left to right: John Citrone, England, Class #3, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Austria, Class #1, and Al Beckles, Barbados, Class #2.

- One of the scenes taken during the prejudging shows these contestants displaying their arm development for the judges.

- A view of some of the professional contestants on stage. Left to right: Nicolas Kleber from Guadelope, Bill Pearl, USA and the winner of the professional title. Charles Sintat from France, and Guiseppe Deianna from Italy.

- Dennis Tinerino, who placed second in the amateur division, reaches over and congratulates Bill Pearl, the professional winner. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the amateur title holder, is in the center.

- Another shot taken during the prejudging which shows Tinerino and Schwarzenegger comparing chests. Schwarzengger won the overall amateur title, Tinerino placed second.

- The line-up of the Miss Bikini Beauty contest, a contest that continues to grow in popularity. On the far left is Oscar Heidenstam the president of NABBA and the author of this article. Oscar is responsible for the great success that the Mr. Universe contest continues to enjoy year after year.

- First and second place winners in the amateur contest. Dennis Tinerino (on the left) shakes the hand of champion Arnold Schwarzenegger in a congratulatory gesture. The contest was close among these two but the final decision was unanimous to the satisfaction of all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 19, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
Funk doing a stone age version of the DDoS attack.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 12:38:59 PM
Funk doing a stone age version of the DDoS attack.  ;D
               
Title: Poor Cripple
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 19, 2021, 12:44:49 PM
Yup.  In a  kinda sorta reacharound "cast" way.   I would bet his mother stapled her cuntlette shut once he queefed out.

You told us you are below average IQ.
You told us you suffered multiple head trauma as a child that resulted in scars and a dented skull.
You are a cripple whose family uses the internet to babysit you so they can take a break from your dumb ass.
In hindsight, your mother would have probably stapled her cuntlette shut before you came out to save everyone else from having oxygen wasted on such a failure.

Don't be jealous that I can actually get out and go places to do things while you watch the "real world" from your window.  Limp away bitch boy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 19, 2021, 12:48:45 PM
Did you ??? What did you catch?

A great tan.

Snapper, grouper, tarpon, the occasional mahi mahi.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 19, 2021, 01:00:57 PM
62! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 01:16:01 PM
62!
     
    61 was a magic year. the first year that I discovered baseball. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
     
    61 was a magic year. the first year that I discovered baseball. ;D ;D ;D
   I discovered weightlifting the year before.
Title: Re: Poor Cripple
Post by: The Scott on May 19, 2021, 06:06:41 PM
You told us you are below average IQ.
You told us you suffered multiple head trauma as a child that resulted in scars and a dented skull.
You are a cripple whose family uses the internet to babysit you so they can take a break from your dumb ass.
In hindsight, your mother would have probably stapled her cuntlette shut before you came out to save everyone else from having oxygen wasted on such a failure.

Don't be jealous that I can actually get out and go places to do things while you watch the "real world" from your window.  Limp away bitch boy.

Your tell is already known as is all that is needed. This ain't the real world but in that you would be so lost.   Be thankful, boy.
Title: Re: Poor Cripple
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 19, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
Your tell is already known as is all that is needed. This ain't the real world but in that you would be so lost.   Be thankful, boy.

"tell", "real world",  what?  no "feeeeeeeel" or "barrel"???

No need.  The above pseudo intellect babble is enough to confirm what you already told us.  Brain damage is a wonderful thing.  It keeps you from realizing how stupid you truly are.
Title: Re: Poor Cripple
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 19, 2021, 08:00:46 PM
"tell", "real world",  what?  no "feeeeeeeel" or "barrel" ???

No need.  The above pseudo intellect babble is enough to confirm what you already told us.  Brain damage is a wonderful thing.  It keeps you from realizing how stupid you truly are.


Time to switch to your Strawman gimmick, lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 19, 2021, 08:44:23 PM

B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
[/quote         ]idiot who wrote it meant the nabba mr universe. on to page 62


That would be you  ;D
Title: Re: Poor Cripple
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 19, 2021, 08:50:27 PM

Time to switch to your Strawman gimmick, lol

I only use that at certain hours of the day.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 19, 2021, 08:52:10 PM
Funk doing a stone age version of the DDoS attack.  ;D

Regarding to bullshitting "historian" funk 41, the 1st Mr.Universe (1947) Steve Stanko never existed !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2021, 07:33:18 AM
Regarding to bullshitting "historian" funk 41, the 1st Mr.Universe (1947) Steve Stanko never existed !.
                 1947 Mr Universe



1     Steve Stanko
2     John Farbotnik
3     Eric Pedersen
4     George Eiferman
4     René Leger
-     Jules Bacon
-     Keevil Daly
-     Joe Lauriano
-     Juhani Vellamo
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2021, 07:34:02 AM
                 1947 Mr Universe



1     Steve Stanko
2     John Farbotnik
3     Eric Pedersen
4     George Eiferman
4     René Leger
-     Jules Bacon
-     Keevil Daly
-     Joe Lauriano
-     Juhani Vellamo
           The "Mr. Universe" Contest !
by Bob Hoffman
Director of the 1947 World's Championships and "Mr. Universe" Contest
January 9, 1948

Mr. Bob Hoffman,
York, PA.

Dear Bob:

Say, Bob, what is all the mysterious whispering for in regard to the "Mr. Universe" contest? The Canadian magazine is to expose the "Mr. Universe" scandal. The "Iron Man" says of the contest, "The least said the better." The "Body Builder" avoids the contest, merely saying the greatest thrill they got in the show was the fact that John Farbotnik almost won.

None of these magazines, "Strength & Health" even, mention the judges of this contest. Why? As one of the judges I feel that I should know if something was wrong with the selection of Mr. Universe. Nobody offered me any bribes or promised me anything if I voted for a certain entrant.

I believe I am an unbiased judge and I will say that Steve Stanko was the outstanding physical specimen on the platform. Steve was in great shape that night and he had everything in great quantities.

If you know what the big mystery is will you let me know ?

After the Northeastern Ohio contest on January 18th in Cleveland I hope to have some good news for you as to prospects for the Olympics. The boys are training hard and I am waiting to see the results.

We wish you all at York a Happy and Successful New Year and the best of everything. God bless you all.

Lawrence (Larry) Barnholth

This is the first news we had that there was anything mysterious about the selection of Steve Stanko as Mr. Universe. In the opinion of the judges and about ninety per cent of the spectators, Stanko was the best man, that's all. This "Mr. America" of 1944, this former world's and U.S. weight lifting champion, this former world's strongest man, had enough stuff in the opinion of a plurality of the judges to win. For the benefit of those who are interested we will tell more details of the method used to select "Mr. Universe." There was so much to write about the weight lifting, that there was little enough space to cover all the details of the "Mr. Universe" contest.

First, the world's championships are conducted each year under the jurisdiction of the International Weight Lifting Federation. Although there are many weightlifting countries, the majority of the officers of this Federation are French. A Frenchman is president, and so he can be replaced in case of his death, the vice president is French too, and so they will understand each other, the secretary is French. Dietrich Wortmann and the writer are officers of the Federation, and so are men from a number of other countries. The French and International Federation were well represented here. From France there were N. Harasse the acting president, Eugene Gouleaux, the secretary, Jean Dame, and Robert Landesmann and four weight lifters. In all there were thirteen countries in the competition and each had one or more officials with the exception of Trinidad.

In selecting the officials, the judges and referees for the weightlifting championships, first the names of the qualified referees are placed in a hat. The writer of this article is a member of the International Board of Referees, served previously as an official in International Competition, so was among the names in the hat. The first name drawn is the referee for the 123 pound class, the second, the 132 pound class, the third, my own, the 148, next 165, then 181 and heavyweight. Referees not selected among the first six are chosen as judges, and then well qualified men, but those who have not ad the opportunity to serve as an official in International weight lifting competition, round out the remainder of the judges. Of the 18 officials who served, only Emmet Faris and the writer from the United States served as officials.

This is certainly the fairest possible way to select officials and there is no room for a just complaint. The "Mr. Universe" contest was being held fro the first time. It was such a great success, that it is sure to be a part of the world's weight lifting championships in the future. A recent letter from Mr. Oscar State, the secretary of the British Amateur Weight Lifting Association, brought the news that a "Mr. Universe" will be held in conjunction with the Olympic Games.

Physique contests were new to most of the men from other countries. In France and England they are well known. In Cuba too, but such a contest was unknown or little known in the others of the thirteen countries who were competing for the world's title. It was the plan of the committee in charge, all the members of the International Weight Lifting Federation, and practically all members of the United States, National Weight Lifting Committee, were aiding in the conduct of the great world's championships that there should be nine judges, each from a different country. But it was not possible to find nine judges with previous experience. The judges as selected by the two committees,the Internatoinal Committee headed by M. Harasse of France, and the national weight lifting committee of which Mr. Dietrich Wortmann of New York is chairman, the write, Emmet Faris of Cincinnati, Wilbur Smith of Pittsburgh, vice presidents, were as follows:

John Barrs, editor of Vigour magazine, England.

Robert Cayeaux, in charge of weight lifting in Paris ans the famous trainer of Charles Rigolot, France.

Bruno Nyberg, the coach and manager of the Finnish team.

Julio De Cespedes, the coach and manager of the Cuban team.

Bernard Mendonca of British Guiana, and the following four from the United States.

Larry Barnholth, of Akron, Ohio, member of the U.S. National Committee, and chairman of the Northeastern Ohio District.

Karo Whitfield, member of the national weight lifting committee for many years and chairman of the southern district, Atlanta, Ga.

Emmet Faris, nationals vice chairman of the U.S. weight lifting committee, and chairman of the southern Ohio District, Cincinnati, Ohio.

Art Gay, Rochester, New York.

Each of the men from other countries had one or more of their countrymen in the competition, with the exception of John Barrs of England. Time was short, the Pennsylvania Blue Law still in effect does not permit events of this sort on Sunday, and after midnight, Saturday night was Sunday. Therefore it was necessary to get the show over before 12. So there was not time to use the point system, but each official was told to pick the man he thought most deserving of the title.

Nine votes were cast as follows:

Steve Stanko   3
John Farbotnik   2
Eric Pederson   2
George Eiferman   1
René Leger   1
As regular readers will note, the first four were Americans who have fared well in national physique contests before. René Leger is the current "Mr. Canada."

While I was the director of the meet and served as Master of Ceremonies throughout the two days of the contest, I took practically no part in the "Mr. Universe" contest. I continued as Master of Ceremonies during all of the lifting as any who were there will agree that I am well qualified to do, I selected Jack Libertore of Columbus, O. to be Master of Ceremonies during the "Mr. Universe" contest. I had nothing to do with the selection of the judges for the "Mr. Universe" contest. I refused to serve as an official for there are always people who judge others by themselves, who cannot realize that there are fair and honest men in the world who would pick the man they consider to be best whether a member of the judges' team or not. Dan Parker, columnist of the New York Mirror, has made much of the fact during all of these years that Hoffman was one of the ten judges at Madison Square Garden when Grimek won the "Mr. America" crown of 1940. One judge cannot outjudge and outvote eight or nine others. But to avoid even the breath of suspicion of collusion, of unfairness, or of Ethiopians in the woodpile, as Parker phrased it, I have not been a judge in recent years.

I sat right down in the front row where I could enjoy the show, and enjoyed seeing these wonderful physical specimens as much as any. And when the show was overt, the votes were collected, with Wortmann, Faris, your editor, and Wilbur Smith of Pittsburgh, the national chairman and vice chairman, tabulating the votes. I noticed that of Steve's three votes, two seemed to be American, Larry Barnholth apparently voted for Steve. Art Gay told Johnny Terpak, the captain of the victorious U.S. weight lifting team, and the 181 pound world's champion, that he had cast his vote for Steve. So this would account for the second American vote. With the six votes we have mentioned there would be three others, and of course someone must have voted for Pederson and Eiferman. I noted that one of Steve's votes was in a foreign handwriting and said, Stanko, U.S.A. I couldn't be sure where this vote came from but I thought of the man from Finland. Those rugged men from the North admire Herculean strength and development, such as is possessed by Steve Stanko.

How the others voted I cannot say, I understand that John Barrs cast his vote for Farbotnik, I am told that my friend Robert Cayeaux voted for René Leger, the French Canadian.

I have offered you my opinion of how six of the judges voted. Who the others preferred I do not know. But it is interesting to note that all the judges were fair enough to recognize that there were men in the contest superior to their own entrants, and not one man voted for his own man.

John Barrs for one said, "if Grimek was in the contest he would have received nine votes", a unanimous decision, so wonderful was his display of muscle control offered while the votes were being counted. It has always been the opinion of the writer that Grimek is best, Stanko second, of the world's best built men. True enough Stanko has been unable to perform leg exercises for some years. His legs are still wonderful, good enough that he won the award, "Best Legs" in Pittsburgh, the year he won the "Mr. America" contest. His thighs are muscular, big and round, his calves wonderfully developed, his ankles slender.

Of the remainder I liked Farbotnik best, in spite of the fact that Al Stephans was wonderful in 1946 when he won the contest, I would have voted for Farbotnik. Pedersen is an extraordinarily muscular man and richly deserved to win the title "Most Muscular Man" last year, but I don't think he has the proportions, the posing ability, or the appearance to have won this contest. George Eiferman was good and so was René Leger. But so was Joe Lauriano who didn't get a vote, the "Jr. Mr. America of 1945," the third place man last year outscoring both Farbotnik and Eiferman, and Jules Bacon, the "Mr. America" of 1943 who won this title with Bob Hoffmann three thousand miles away. I mention this because so many people think that I selected the judges and the "Mr. America's" too. There were other good men in the contest. But only one can win, and I for one believe that the judges made the selection to the best of their abilities. Certainly a contest could not be staged in a better or fairer manner.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2021, 07:34:53 AM
           The "Mr. Universe" Contest !
by Bob Hoffman
Director of the 1947 World's Championships and "Mr. Universe" Contest
January 9, 1948

Mr. Bob Hoffman,
York, PA.

Dear Bob:

Say, Bob, what is all the mysterious whispering for in regard to the "Mr. Universe" contest? The Canadian magazine is to expose the "Mr. Universe" scandal. The "Iron Man" says of the contest, "The least said the better." The "Body Builder" avoids the contest, merely saying the greatest thrill they got in the show was the fact that John Farbotnik almost won.

None of these magazines, "Strength & Health" even, mention the judges of this contest. Why? As one of the judges I feel that I should know if something was wrong with the selection of Mr. Universe. Nobody offered me any bribes or promised me anything if I voted for a certain entrant.

I believe I am an unbiased judge and I will say that Steve Stanko was the outstanding physical specimen on the platform. Steve was in great shape that night and he had everything in great quantities.

If you know what the big mystery is will you let me know ?

After the Northeastern Ohio contest on January 18th in Cleveland I hope to have some good news for you as to prospects for the Olympics. The boys are training hard and I am waiting to see the results.

We wish you all at York a Happy and Successful New Year and the best of everything. God bless you all.

Lawrence (Larry) Barnholth

This is the first news we had that there was anything mysterious about the selection of Steve Stanko as Mr. Universe. In the opinion of the judges and about ninety per cent of the spectators, Stanko was the best man, that's all. This "Mr. America" of 1944, this former world's and U.S. weight lifting champion, this former world's strongest man, had enough stuff in the opinion of a plurality of the judges to win. For the benefit of those who are interested we will tell more details of the method used to select "Mr. Universe." There was so much to write about the weight lifting, that there was little enough space to cover all the details of the "Mr. Universe" contest.

First, the world's championships are conducted each year under the jurisdiction of the International Weight Lifting Federation. Although there are many weightlifting countries, the majority of the officers of this Federation are French. A Frenchman is president, and so he can be replaced in case of his death, the vice president is French too, and so they will understand each other, the secretary is French. Dietrich Wortmann and the writer are officers of the Federation, and so are men from a number of other countries. The French and International Federation were well represented here. From France there were N. Harasse the acting president, Eugene Gouleaux, the secretary, Jean Dame, and Robert Landesmann and four weight lifters. In all there were thirteen countries in the competition and each had one or more officials with the exception of Trinidad.

In selecting the officials, the judges and referees for the weightlifting championships, first the names of the qualified referees are placed in a hat. The writer of this article is a member of the International Board of Referees, served previously as an official in International Competition, so was among the names in the hat. The first name drawn is the referee for the 123 pound class, the second, the 132 pound class, the third, my own, the 148, next 165, then 181 and heavyweight. Referees not selected among the first six are chosen as judges, and then well qualified men, but those who have not ad the opportunity to serve as an official in International weight lifting competition, round out the remainder of the judges. Of the 18 officials who served, only Emmet Faris and the writer from the United States served as officials.

This is certainly the fairest possible way to select officials and there is no room for a just complaint. The "Mr. Universe" contest was being held fro the first time. It was such a great success, that it is sure to be a part of the world's weight lifting championships in the future. A recent letter from Mr. Oscar State, the secretary of the British Amateur Weight Lifting Association, brought the news that a "Mr. Universe" will be held in conjunction with the Olympic Games.

Physique contests were new to most of the men from other countries. In France and England they are well known. In Cuba too, but such a contest was unknown or little known in the others of the thirteen countries who were competing for the world's title. It was the plan of the committee in charge, all the members of the International Weight Lifting Federation, and practically all members of the United States, National Weight Lifting Committee, were aiding in the conduct of the great world's championships that there should be nine judges, each from a different country. But it was not possible to find nine judges with previous experience. The judges as selected by the two committees,the Internatoinal Committee headed by M. Harasse of France, and the national weight lifting committee of which Mr. Dietrich Wortmann of New York is chairman, the write, Emmet Faris of Cincinnati, Wilbur Smith of Pittsburgh, vice presidents, were as follows:

John Barrs, editor of Vigour magazine, England.

Robert Cayeaux, in charge of weight lifting in Paris ans the famous trainer of Charles Rigolot, France.

Bruno Nyberg, the coach and manager of the Finnish team.

Julio De Cespedes, the coach and manager of the Cuban team.

Bernard Mendonca of British Guiana, and the following four from the United States.

Larry Barnholth, of Akron, Ohio, member of the U.S. National Committee, and chairman of the Northeastern Ohio District.

Karo Whitfield, member of the national weight lifting committee for many years and chairman of the southern district, Atlanta, Ga.

Emmet Faris, nationals vice chairman of the U.S. weight lifting committee, and chairman of the southern Ohio District, Cincinnati, Ohio.

Art Gay, Rochester, New York.

Each of the men from other countries had one or more of their countrymen in the competition, with the exception of John Barrs of England. Time was short, the Pennsylvania Blue Law still in effect does not permit events of this sort on Sunday, and after midnight, Saturday night was Sunday. Therefore it was necessary to get the show over before 12. So there was not time to use the point system, but each official was told to pick the man he thought most deserving of the title.

Nine votes were cast as follows:

Steve Stanko   3
John Farbotnik   2
Eric Pederson   2
George Eiferman   1
René Leger   1
As regular readers will note, the first four were Americans who have fared well in national physique contests before. René Leger is the current "Mr. Canada."

While I was the director of the meet and served as Master of Ceremonies throughout the two days of the contest, I took practically no part in the "Mr. Universe" contest. I continued as Master of Ceremonies during all of the lifting as any who were there will agree that I am well qualified to do, I selected Jack Libertore of Columbus, O. to be Master of Ceremonies during the "Mr. Universe" contest. I had nothing to do with the selection of the judges for the "Mr. Universe" contest. I refused to serve as an official for there are always people who judge others by themselves, who cannot realize that there are fair and honest men in the world who would pick the man they consider to be best whether a member of the judges' team or not. Dan Parker, columnist of the New York Mirror, has made much of the fact during all of these years that Hoffman was one of the ten judges at Madison Square Garden when Grimek won the "Mr. America" crown of 1940. One judge cannot outjudge and outvote eight or nine others. But to avoid even the breath of suspicion of collusion, of unfairness, or of Ethiopians in the woodpile, as Parker phrased it, I have not been a judge in recent years.

I sat right down in the front row where I could enjoy the show, and enjoyed seeing these wonderful physical specimens as much as any. And when the show was overt, the votes were collected, with Wortmann, Faris, your editor, and Wilbur Smith of Pittsburgh, the national chairman and vice chairman, tabulating the votes. I noticed that of Steve's three votes, two seemed to be American, Larry Barnholth apparently voted for Steve. Art Gay told Johnny Terpak, the captain of the victorious U.S. weight lifting team, and the 181 pound world's champion, that he had cast his vote for Steve. So this would account for the second American vote. With the six votes we have mentioned there would be three others, and of course someone must have voted for Pederson and Eiferman. I noted that one of Steve's votes was in a foreign handwriting and said, Stanko, U.S.A. I couldn't be sure where this vote came from but I thought of the man from Finland. Those rugged men from the North admire Herculean strength and development, such as is possessed by Steve Stanko.

How the others voted I cannot say, I understand that John Barrs cast his vote for Farbotnik, I am told that my friend Robert Cayeaux voted for René Leger, the French Canadian.

I have offered you my opinion of how six of the judges voted. Who the others preferred I do not know. But it is interesting to note that all the judges were fair enough to recognize that there were men in the contest superior to their own entrants, and not one man voted for his own man.

John Barrs for one said, "if Grimek was in the contest he would have received nine votes", a unanimous decision, so wonderful was his display of muscle control offered while the votes were being counted. It has always been the opinion of the writer that Grimek is best, Stanko second, of the world's best built men. True enough Stanko has been unable to perform leg exercises for some years. His legs are still wonderful, good enough that he won the award, "Best Legs" in Pittsburgh, the year he won the "Mr. America" contest. His thighs are muscular, big and round, his calves wonderfully developed, his ankles slender.

Of the remainder I liked Farbotnik best, in spite of the fact that Al Stephans was wonderful in 1946 when he won the contest, I would have voted for Farbotnik. Pedersen is an extraordinarily muscular man and richly deserved to win the title "Most Muscular Man" last year, but I don't think he has the proportions, the posing ability, or the appearance to have won this contest. George Eiferman was good and so was René Leger. But so was Joe Lauriano who didn't get a vote, the "Jr. Mr. America of 1945," the third place man last year outscoring both Farbotnik and Eiferman, and Jules Bacon, the "Mr. America" of 1943 who won this title with Bob Hoffmann three thousand miles away. I mention this because so many people think that I selected the judges and the "Mr. America's" too. There were other good men in the contest. But only one can win, and I for one believe that the judges made the selection to the best of their abilities. Certainly a contest could not be staged in a better or fairer manner.
                       Strength & Health, Page 41, April 1948

An Official Expresses His Views Of The "Mr. Universe" Contest
John Barrs of England was one of the nine well qualified judges at the "Mr. Universe" contest held in conjunction with the World's Weightlifting Championships at Philadelphia. For a number of years John Barrs has been a leader in the weightlifting sport in England. has served as editor of Vigour magazine, the official organ of The British Amateur Weightlifting Association. His recent released book Body-Building is the official training textbook of this association. On the 12th of February the following letter was written by John Barrs to Bob Hoffman. John Barrs provided his consent to publish this lettter.

My Dear Bob:

I have just received my copy of the February issue of Strength & Health and have read with great interest your article "The Mr. Universe Contest." I am amazed that anyone could suggest that the "Mr. Universe" contest was not conducted in a thoroughly fair and unbiased manner or that you personally - or anyone else - attempted to influence the judges in their selection.

For 20 years I have been actively concerned with the sport of weight-lifting and with barbell exercise and have been an official of the British Amateur Weight-Lifters' Association since 1933. I had the pleasure of first meeting you at the Olympic Games in Berlin, then again in Paris in 1946 and in Philadelphia last September. From time to time remarks have been passed to me by various people indicating that Bob Hoffman was various kinds of villain who was interested in the "Iron Game" mainly for financial reasons. In Berlin and in Paris I found nothing to support these allegations and when I visited America six months ago I discovered that they were completely unfounded. From the many American lifters (who know you) who talked to me in Philadelphia and in New York I heard no word of criticism of you - only unstinting praise of your enthusiastic efforts and of your self-sacrificing generosity; it was even said that you are sometimes too generous. My own feelings toward you and those of my friend and Co-Editor of Vigour Magazine, Henry J. Atkin, were expressed at the banquet when I presented you with the specially engraved Vigour plaque in recognition of your endeavors on behalf of weight-lifters the world over.

I was quite satisfied with the arrangements for the judging of the 1947 "Mr. Universe" contest and appreciated that the time factor imposed by the Pennsylvania "Blue Laws" prevented the point system of voting being used. I was quite satisfied with the panel of judges that was appointed and have no doubts about their integrity.

You are quite correct in stating that I voted for Farbotnik and that Robert Cayeux voted for René Leger. Bruno Nyberg of Finland, who was seated on my other side, showed me his voting paper which had the name Steve Stanko written upon it. Personally, although I did not vote for Stanko, I have no quarrel with the decisions of the majority of the judges because I consider that they expressed their honest opinions. Each of the first five physical specimens - Stanko, Farbotnik, Pedersen, Eiferman and Leger - who reached the "final", was so excellent that the lack of unanimity in the judging was not surprising.

I should like to conclude by congratulating you upon the success of the "Mr. Universe" contest and of the 1947 World's Championships. You and your colleagues did a marvelous job of work and I am sure that everyone appreciated your efforts. All the American lifters that I met showed the greatest kindness and hospitality and I shall never forget my brief but happy stay in the United States as manager and coach for my friend George Espeut, the British competitor in the lightweight class.

With best wishes
Yours sincerely,

John Barrs,
British Team Coach,
Hon. Physical Training
Adviser to the B.A.W.L.A.
Co-Editor of Vigour Magazine.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2021, 12:15:33 PM
I have no regrets starting this thread
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 20, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
I have no regrets starting this thread

you're a whiny little bitch
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2021, 12:21:38 PM
you're a whiny little bitch

And you’re a fuckin troll...no more no less
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 20, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
And you’re a fuckin troll...no more no less

REALITY has been trolling you since the day you were born
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 01:23:18 PM
Regarding to bullshitting "historian" funk 41, the 1st Mr.Universe (1947) Steve Stanko never existed !.

You mean this Steve Stanko...Mr. Universe 1947?

(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Steve-Stanko-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2021, 01:42:22 PM
I have no regrets starting this thread

The outcome was never in doubt.  Straw would get more votes and you would look stupid.  (As usual).
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2021, 01:47:18 PM
On to 63 !    Clean up the dump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 20, 2021, 02:24:30 PM
                 1947 Mr Universe



1     Steve Stanko
2     John Farbotnik
3     Eric Pedersen
4     George Eiferman
4     René Leger
-     Jules Bacon
-     Keevil Daly
-     Joe Lauriano
-     Juhani Vellamo


Before IFBB creation another  'World BB Contest' existed ............ :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 20, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
I have no regrets starting this thread

Do you know of all the threads you've started which has the most pages?  For the record, I think this thread is stellar. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2021, 06:57:21 PM
The outcome was never in doubt.  Straw would get more votes and you would look stupid.  (As usual).

Quiet turd...speak when you’re spoken too. You should look at the significance of that poll, Junior. Not exactly a blow out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 20, 2021, 07:16:11 PM
Quiet turd...speak when you’re spoken too. You should look at the significance of that poll, Junior. Not exactly a blow out.

Hey phony "coach"

This is message board

Anyone who is a member can post

I've never made a thread asking anyone to be cancelled

How about you act like an adult for once in your miserable life and stop whining and complaining about every little thing that makes your vagina itch

If you don't like someone's post then don't read them and don't reply

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2021, 07:20:46 PM
Quiet turd...speak when you’re spoken too. You should look at the significance of that poll, Junior. Not exactly a blow out.

It was a landslide in his favor.  This thread is another example of how Fragile X syndrome eats your lunch everyday.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2021, 07:21:19 PM
Hey phony "coach"

This is message board

Anyone who is a member can post

I've never made a thread asking anyone to be cancelled

How about you act like an adult for once in your miserable life and stop whining and complaining about every little thing that makes your vagina itch

If you don't like someone's post then don't read them and don't reply

Your pesky facts and logic hurt his little empty head.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2021, 07:22:33 PM
It was a landslide in his favor.  This thread is another example of how Fragile X syndrome eats your lunch everyday.

4+ isn’t exactly a landslide hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 20, 2021, 07:27:55 PM
4+ isn’t exactly a landslide hahahahahaha

why don't you just ignore the posts that you don't like

that's what I do with 98% of the drivel that you post

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2021, 07:28:51 PM
4+ isn’t exactly a landslide hahahahahaha

Yeah it is when you consider the majority of Trumpturds posting here.

"hahahahaa"

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 06:06:54 AM
You mean this Steve Stanko...Mr. Universe 1947?

(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Steve-Stanko-1.jpg)
             the other guy in the pic bill march also won the title     1965 World-Universe - FICH



Overall Winner Bill March

Tall
1     Bill March   (United States)
2     Craig Whitehead   (United States)
3     Zouheir Haddad   (Syria)

Short
1     Rodrique Picard   (Canada)
2     Ahmed Ayoub   (Lebanon)
3     Kassem Yazbek   (Syria)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 06:07:41 AM
             the other guy in the pic bill march also won the title     1965 World-Universe - FICH



Overall Winner Bill March

Tall
1     Bill March   (United States)
2     Craig Whitehead   (United States)
3     Zouheir Haddad   (Syria)

Short
1     Rodrique Picard   (Canada)
2     Ahmed Ayoub   (Lebanon)
3     Kassem Yazbek   (Syria)
                                            Strength & Health, Page 22, March 1966

The 1965 FIHC Mr. Universe Contest -
held in conjuction with the 1965 World's Weightlifting Championships in Teheran, Iran
By Bob Hoffman
First, a short history of the Mr. Universe contest. In 1947 it was our privilege to conduct the World's Weightlifting Championships in Philadelphia and we thought that a physique contest should be a part of it. We considered various names for this contest but decided upon the title Mr. Universe. We knew the Mr. Universe title was taking in a lot of territory and I kiddingly said, "Mr. Skygack from Mars, all of thirty feet tall, might come down and say, 'Move over, I am in this contest too.'" But, he didn't come and we went on with the contest which was won by the York Barbell Club's famous Steve Stanko, Mr. America of 1944 and the first man to make a 1000 total in the three Olympic lifts. The next year at London, where the 1948 Olympics were being held, a Mr. Universe contest was held by the BA WLA. This was the year that John Grimek won. He had to overcome Steve Reeves to be the winner, a man who is now famous as a Herculean movie star. In 1950 it was held in France with John Farbotnik being the winner.

There was some irregularity in continuing this contest as the years passed since physique contests were little known in many countries and there were omissions when the lifting championships were held in these countries. Now there is a rule that the country holding the World's Championships must also conduct a contest to determine the World's Physique Champion --"Mr. Universe," except at the Olympic games as physique competition is not a part of the Olympics. For that reason we bid for, and obtained, the right to stage the '68 Mr. Universe contest in the United States. It will be held after the Olympic Games so that officials and contestants can route their homeward journeys through York and see the great World's Physique Champion-"Mr. Universe" contest that we plan to present. (it didn't happen)

The Mr. Universe contest conducted by the Federation International Halterophile et Culturiste (FIHC) is the only official Mr. Universe contest. Others have been held by unauthorized organizations and include competitors who are out and out professionals and those who are not in good standing with the official body. The International Federation of Weightlifting and Culture includes 85 nations so it is much more universal than any other contest. This contest has had several names: Le Plus Belle Athlete Du Monde (The World's Most Handsome Athlete), Mr. World, and more recently the World's Physique Champion - "Mr. Universe." The competitors must be certified as amateurs by their country, and the country must be a member in good standing of the world wide FIHC.

This big contest has been held three times in America--1947 in Philadelphia, 1953 in Philadelphia, and in 1957 at Virginia Beach. As already mentioned above, Steve Stanko won the 1947 title. In 1953 Jim Park of the York Barbell Club, the 1952 Mr. America, was declared the winner. In 1953 there was also a special "World's Most Muscular Man" contest held in conjunction with the Mr. Universe contest. This title was won by Roy Hilligenn, the 1951 Mr. America.

(The Virginia Beach contest was in 1956, not 1957, and was only sanctioned by a local AAU chapter, not the national AAU, and certainly not the FIHC.)

Under the FIHC rules there are two height classes--under 5'6" and over 5'6". A country can enter two men in each height class. In this year's Mr. Universe contest there were ten competitors in the under 5'6" class and 12 competitors in the over 5'6" class. In each division the entire group came upon the platform where they were introduced and faced the judges in the front, right side, left side, and back positions. There were no points for this presentation. The object was to permit the judges to observe the relative merits of the various contenders. After this presentation, the contestants retired to the rear of the stage and came back upon the posing platform one by one for individual presentation in the front, side, and back positions while standing relaxed. Muscle contraction or any posing were strictly forbidden. A competitor failing to obey this could have been disqualified from the contest. Points were scored for this "standing relaxed" part of the program from one to twenty.

In the final portion of the presentation a maximum of 90 seconds was permitted for posing and muscle control. Any type of poses were permitted during this period. The scoring for this second part of the presentation was also from one to twenty. Oil upon the body was permitted, and with the single overhead group of lights diffused with a glass frame, the display of the various contestants was quite spectacular. There were a lot of good men in this contest and at least a score of the contestants had physiques which would rate them high in any world or national contest. As the contest continued, it was evident that the battle for the grand title would be awarded to one of three contestants--Bill March of the United States, Dr. Craig Whitehead of the United States Air Force, or Zouheir Haddad of Syria.

After the judges scored each individual, the score sheets were collected and handed to the president of the FIHC, Clarence Johnson of the United States, and the general secretary, Oscar State of Great Britain. After eliminating the highest and the lowest marks, each competitor was credited with the total of the five remaining marks. At least two of the judges thought so well of the Syrian contender that they gave him the highest place. Four of the judges gave Bill March the highest place and the scoring of the other judge is unknown to the writer at present as he speaks only French and we did not discuss the contest. It is quite possible that he voted for the French contender who had a most excellent physique and a very pleasing and artistic posing routine. What we do know is that after the totaling of the score sheets, Bill March was declared the winner with Dr. Craig Whitehead placing second and the Syrian champion, Zouheir Haddad, placing third. This was the final scoring without regards to height.

Rodrique Picard, a French speaking Canadian, was the World's Physique Champion- "Mr. Universe" in the under 5'6" class. Second and third place winners in this class were Ahmed Ayoub of Lebanon and Kassem Yasbek of Syria. Mr. Asia in both classes was selected according to the scores already given. Haddad received the title Continental Physique Champion-"Mr. Asia."

I was very pleased over Bill March's victory. Mr. Universe is a wonderful title for Bill to win, and he had to win over some very outstanding physiques. But what is truly remarkable is the fact that Bill is not a bodybuilder, i.e., one who performs a myriad of exercises to develop various parts of his body. He is strictly the product of athletics and weightlifting. In fact, Bill does not like physique contests as he seems to feel that it is a sissy pastime. When I congratulated him as he climbed on the winner's platform he said, "You know Bob, I hate this stuff." I told him to forget that part and added, "Now that you have won the biggest and the greatest contest, at least be happy over your victory." In spite of his reluctance, I have pushed him into a number of other contests for I am justly proud of the great physique that was produced by athletics, weightlifting, Functional Isometric Contraction, the regular use of all the Hoffman nutritional products, and Dr. John Ziegler's fabulous Isotron.

Bill has won such titles as Mr. Pennsylvania, Mr. Middle Atlantic, Mr. Eastern States, Mr. North America, and finally at the Pan American games he was selected Mr. Pan American. In 1961 he won first place in category one of the Mr. Universe contest-the "standing relaxed" part. At the World's Championships in 1962 he was selected the World's Best Developed Weightlifter.

How did Bill develop a physique good enough to win so many physique titles when bodybuilding has not been his primary goal? Bill has often been asked this same question and just about as often I have overheard his replies. One particular instance comes to mind. A young bodybuilder was questioning Bill about how much bodybuilding Bill did. Of course Bill replied, "None." Feeling that he wasn't being told everything, the bodybuilder inquired further. "If you don't bodybuild then how come you look like a bodybuilder?" Bill answered, "I did bodybuild at one time but that was about five or six years ago. John Grimek advised me to concentrate on lifting and about this same time I started working with Dr. Ziegler on the isometric rack and his Isotron. From that time on everything just seemed to grow." "Well, how did you develop your calves if you don't bodybuild?" "Well," replied Bill, "I play quite a lot of basketball plus I do some standing high jumps and standing broad jumps almost every week. Also, my calves get a good workout when I go up on my toes in the middle and top pull positions on the power rack and hold for 12 seconds."

As is usually the case, Bill's interrogator didn't want to believe that Bill had built his physique through a combination of Olympic lifting, assistant exercises to improve his lifting, isometrics, and a generous amount of athletics. So, he continued, "How come your 'pecs' look so good, the Olympic lifts don't work them?" "Must be those dips I do to help my press," says Bill. "Gymnasts do quite a lot of dipping movements and most of them have very good pectoral development."

The discussion usually goes on and on with Bill answering an endless string of questions. But the fact remains that training primarily for lifting plus participating in various athletics is responsible for Bill's current physique. And, I am sure that his athletic ability helped him win the title. His back flip was a big surprise to all as such a finish to a posing routine had never been used before. This might have influenced the judges a bit for it was quite spectacular to see a man who weighed more than 200 pounds suddenly zip through the air and land light as a feather. Contestants from other countries, notably the Russians, talked almost endlessly about this climax to the show. To them it was the big feature of the contest as they are great admirers of strength, which Bill has to a superlative degree as he has pressed 375, snatched 320, and cleaned and jerked 418; a fine body, which he has as proven by his winning of many physique contests; and athletic ability, which he demonstrated by his spontaneous back flip and many outstanding lifting performances. And, while Bill is not quite as famous throughout the world as a physique star as he is a lifter, he well proved that he has one of the greatest physiques of all time when he won the 1965 World's Physique Champion-"Mr. Universe" title.

PHOTO CAPTIONS
- This year's Mr. Universe contest had some of the best physique contestants ever. And, the United States did better than ever - winning first and second. A. Bill March went to Teheran and the World's Weightlifitng Championships to compete as a middleheavyweight. However, severe illness prevented him from lifitng as a mid-heavy and when he tried to lift in the heavyweight class, he failed to total. The dehydration and strict diet that Bill followed to make weight for the mid-heavyweight class plus hi sillness brought his bodyweight down and his definition out as will be noted in the pictures below and to the right. Pretty good "abs" hung? B. Three of the officials, Baktiar, Hoffman, and Johnson, and the three Mr. Universe place winners, Dr. Whitehead, second; March, first; and Haddad, third. C. Bill March, the 1965 FIHC Mr. Universe. D. Dr. Craig Whitehead, the second place winner in this international contest. E. Haddad of Syria looked very good and placed a strong third.

- A. The outstanding physique of weightlifter Bill March as he strikes a semi-relaxed pose on the winners pedestal. When asked how he developed his physique, Bill always replies, "I Train on the power rack, practice on the Olympic lifts, and make it a point to include light athletics in my training. I definitely do not do any bodybuilding." B. Bill is first and foremost a weightlifter. Prior to his illness in Teheran he was consistently totaling close ot 1100 while weighting around 205 pounds. Here he and Bob Hoffman watch Tony Garcy warm-up for competition in the middleweight class.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 09:48:27 AM
Mr Universe
Universe - AAU
Universe - IBFA
Universe - IFBB
Mr Universe - NABBA
Universe - NAC
Universe - NGA
Universe - PBA
Universe - Pro - IFBB
Universe - Pro - NABBA
Universe - Pro - PBBA
Universe - WABBA
Universo Mexico - NABBA
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Post by: Taffin on May 21, 2021, 10:55:09 AM
On to 63 !    Clean up the dump.

100 pages easy  8)
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 11:02:03 AM
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 21, 2021, 11:26:12 AM
Mr Universe
Universe - AAU
Universe - IBFA
Universe - IFBB
Mr Universe - NABBA
Universe - NAC
Universe - NGA
Universe - PBA
Universe - Pro - IFBB
Universe - Pro - NABBA
Universe - Pro - PBBA
Universe - WABBA
Universo Mexico - NABBA
Mexico has it's own Universe? ???
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Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 11:49:15 AM
Mexico has it's own Universe? ???

Washington state has it's own Olympia.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 21, 2021, 12:08:05 PM
Washington state has it's own Olympia.
But not a Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
Mexico has it's own Universe? ???

Washington state has it's own Olympia.

Current Mr. Universe 2019 overall winner Chitharesh Natesan

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwCjDueL3t0INqBX9jbWjjqj70it1AISo5s8vAnFYWt8JadtA8kU2FkkE0q_OtCwta30k&usqp=CAU)
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 12:18:00 PM
Mexico has it's own Universe? ???
                   
      I'm surprised the wbbg didn't have a mr. universe contest.
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 12:19:36 PM
Mexico has it's own Universe? ???
          Universo Mexico - NABBA Overall Winners



2004 - Carlos Rojero Muñoz

2005 - Miguel DeNova

2009 - David Garcia (3)
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 12:22:15 PM
World-Universe - FICH Overall Winners



1950 - John Farbotnik

1954 - Tommy Kono

1955 - Tommy Kono

1957 - Tommy Kono

1959 - Guy Mierczuk

1961 - Tommy Kono

1963 - Abdul El Guindi

1964 - Abdul El Guindi

1965 - Bill March (Related Articles)

1966 - Bob Gajda           can't forget the world universe title.
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 12:22:57 PM
World-Universe - WPF Overall Winners



2007 - Marius Dohne

2009 - Heinrich Vos

2011 - Ebi George

2012 - Fabrice Radkowski

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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 12:23:49 PM
977 World Cup Pro Universe - PBBA



1     Warren Frederick
2     Pat Neve
3     Don Ross
4     Tony Carroll

Teen
1     Brian Dwyer
2     Peter Guastella
3     Titus Gay

Masters
1     Joe Nista
2     George Paine
3     Earl Maynard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 01:16:08 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 01:59:29 PM
Hey phony "coach"

This is message board

Anyone who is a member can post

I've never made a thread asking anyone to be cancelled

How about you act like an adult for once in your miserable life and stop whining and complaining about every little thing that makes your vagina itch

If you don't like someone's post then don't read them and don't reply

Hi Bob 1 !.
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Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 02:00:07 PM
It was a landslide in his favor.  This thread is another example of how Fragile X syndrome eats your lunch everyday.

Hi Bob 2 !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 02:02:31 PM
Mr Universe
Universe - AAU
Universe - IBFA
Universe - IFBB
Mr Universe - NABBA
Universe - NAC
Universe - NGA
Universe - PBA
Universe - Pro - IFBB
Universe - Pro - NABBA
Universe - Pro - PBBA
Universe - WABBA
Universo Mexico - NABBA

7 more missing titles ,old fart funk41 knows shit
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
7 more titles is missing, old fart funk41 knows shit
               English isn't your primary language is it. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 03:34:39 PM
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 03:36:13 PM
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 03:37:28 PM
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Post by: funk51 on May 21, 2021, 04:27:04 PM
 :D
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Post by: Straw Man on May 21, 2021, 04:34:28 PM


that's my favorite clip of Rafael E. Cruz.

Every time he stands in front of a microphone I always wish someone would have the balls to ask him when he stopped believing that THE TRAITOR is a pathological liar and what changed his mind.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 21, 2021, 04:47:54 PM
Poll is a lot closer if you consider that 8 people want Straw man to be crossfire in a revolution. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 21, 2021, 05:38:07 PM
Poll is a lot closer if you consider that 8 people want Straw man to be crossfire in a revolution. :D

It's said that setting a "straw man" on fire does nothing to bring the light of truth to a discussion.    At the end of all things, these creatures will burn with a flame that cannot be quenched.  Suffice to say his kind will suffer this second death because of their unending thirst for all that is fetid, foul and just plain fucked up in this world. 

Personally, I think the subject of this thread should be banned along with Prime and myself for at least two weeks.  Call it noblesse oblige if you must but I tend to think volunteering for Limbo is an incentive for mods to rid themselves of my posts for 14 days. Anything to intercourse what passes for the minds of two mindless scumbags like Straw and Prime.    ;D

Fuck those two commiecunts.  Fuck 'em to Hades.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 05:58:54 PM
               English isn't your primary language is it. ::)

Is that some colonial lingo  :P.

History lesson for U: www.abff-wpf.fr ................those boy's organized contests since 1901  :D

OBW, U'll need to parlez vous francais .....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 06:08:26 PM
Poll is a lot closer if you consider that 8 people want Straw man to be crossfire in a revolution. :D


Bob is free to join me touring Vietnam in July , I'll take him AK47 shooting near Long Tan & hand grenades throwing in Dien Bien Phu  ;D

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 21, 2021, 06:27:46 PM
64 baby !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 21, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
:D

Better than today's entire crop.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2021, 08:56:24 PM
that's my favorite clip of Rafael E. Cruz.

Every time he stands in front of a microphone I always wish someone would have the balls to ask him when he stopped believing that THE TRAITOR is a pathological liar and what changed his mind.

Hahahahah....let us know how that worked out 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 22, 2021, 04:00:11 AM
Funk is going to ruin this forum if he keeps posting lifting related stuff.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 04:55:14 AM
Funk is going to ruin this forum if he keeps posting lifting related stuff.
;D ;D ;D ;D Driving Daddy Hoffman
by Bill Starr | May 24, 2011
     
driving daddy hoffman

Bob Hoffman was really the heart and soul of York Barbell Club. He, almost alone, supported the sport of Olympic weightlifting in the United States for nearly fifty years. True, he had a motive: money. Whenever a York lifter excelled, it benefited his pocketbook very directly. But the fact remains that without his backing there would never have been such an influx of champions such as Grimek, Stanko, Terpak, Spellman, Terlazzo, Bradford, Davis, Berger, Vinci, Schemansky, Grippaldi, Puleo, Bednarski, Garcy, Marcy, and so many more who wore the maroon and white of the YBC. And for hundreds of others who lived vicariously through the exploits of the champion lifters, he provided another sort of experience.

Hoffman was, by any standard of measure, odd and eccentric. Some believed this was because of all the money he had accumulated, but according to his own stories and from accounts of those who knew him before he became wealthy, he was always odd and eccentric.

Despite his affluence, he did little in the way of enjoyment. He never really went on a true vacation; his only trips were to weightlifting meets or conventions to sell more products. He wore the same clothes for months on end, often not bothering to have them cleaned. His one passion, other than counting money, was dancing the polka. Every weekend when he was not at some contest too far away to get home, he could be found at the Thomasville Inn, which was owned and operated by his common-law wife Alda, dancing until closing. It was the most important part of the week to him, and he would often fly back from some exotic foreign city such as Paris or Rome to be at the Thomasville Inn. 

Hoffman made many claims about himself. He was, of course, the Father of American Weightlifting, hence the nickname “Daddy Hoffman.” He actually liked being called Daddy by the lifters, for this reinforced his right to the title. I didn’t know this until I accidentally slipped and called him Daddy to his face one day. He smiled and continued babbling, so I knew I was on safe ground. He was also the greatest Chinese food eater outside of China, the World’s Healthiest Man, and had once been crowned the World’s Strongest Man. There were more, but you get the point.

Few people bothered to challenge these claims, but I found out how he got the title of the of world’s strongest man. Hoffman was never very strong. In fact, he never was able to put 300 pounds over his head, much to his chagrin since nearly every lifter at the York Barbell in the early forties could clean and jerk that much: Terlazzo, Grimek, Stanko, Terpak and even Bachtell who was a lightweight. So he decided he would become a professional weightlifter and not have to be bothered with those amateurs. He set up a contest to determine who was the strongest professional in the country. Only one other person challenged him, a lifter from Erie, Pennsylvania. On the day of the contest, held at the York Y, a blizzard blocked all the roads. Hoffman became the strongest man in the world, professional division, by default. As time went by, the professional part was dropped, and he sucked on this title till the end of his life.

Without a doubt, the absolutely strangest claim I ever heard come out of his mouth, or anyone’s mouth for that matter, happened during a health food convention in Washington, D.C. Tommy Suggs and I were putting on a lifting demonstration in the York booth when Hoffman showed up and went into one of his endless diatribes about himself, his favorite subject by far. Tommy and I stopped our lifting, for the audience was made up of older men and women who were more interested in what Hoffman had to say than watching us do something they could never possibly do. They seemed transfixed by his droning. Perhaps it was because of his age, but they hung on every word and there were plenty to hang on, believe me. He went on and on about how healthy he was, how he ran a hundred miles a week and was in the midst of a two week fast. Tommy and I looked at one another and smiled, thinking we had heard it all I before. Then he came out with the kicker. He told the assembly he had the world’s most perfectly developed penis. Now Tommy and I exchanged stunned expressions and I whispered, “Did I hear him right?” Tommy’s hearing wasn’t all that keen and he answered softly, “I’m not sure.” It just didn’t seem possible that he would say such a thing to a group of older people, but our doubts were quickly resolved when he repeated himself just in case he had not been heard clearly the first time. As amazed as I was at his ridiculous statement, the reaction of the crowd was even more astounding. Not a soul blinked, frowned, smiled, or showed the slightest reaction at hearing such an absurd remark. It was as if it were totally natural for this old man to say such a thing. After all, he was the world’s healthiest man, so I guess it was logical for him to have the world’s most perfectly developed penis. I half expected one of them to ask him to whip it out. I’m sure he would have been more than willing to comply.

The only tangible item that Hoffman spent his money on was a new car every year. Terpak and Mike Dietz also bought new cars every year, for this was a status game among the higher echelon of the company. Terpak and Dietz always went for the fancy Cadillacs, but Hoffman preferred Lincolns. He said they had larger interiors and since he was a big man, they fit him better. For once this was true; he was indeed a big man, standing 6?4? and weighing 270 pounds. His cars also served as his office. He did have an office in his home in Dover, but didn’t have one at the York Barbell. His former office had been given over to the art department. Every night when he was in town, he would go to the YBC P.O. box to get the mail. Then he would strip all the cash from the incoming orders and throw the letters in his back seat. Which, naturally, resulted in more than a few orders being lost. Periodically, Terpak, Dietz or John Terlazzo would clean out his back seat and floorboard and attempt to fill the late orders.

Hoffman was always on the move, going to conventions, weightlifting meets, AAU meetings, exhibitions, and talks to various groups. He always wanted someone to go with him, primarily to have someone to talk to for he dearly loved the sound of his own voice. One of the first lessons at the York Barbell that any new person needed to learn was that when Hoffman asked him to go alone on some trip, he should always insist on driving. For there was yet another title he could rightfully lay claim to, although he never mentioned this one: he was the world’s worst driver. I was unaware of this fact until I took a drive with him to Philadelphia and it cost me a few years off my life.

He asked me to accompany him to an AAU meeting so I could cast a vote for one of his five registered clubs. He kept five so he could stack the votes for whatever he wanted passed. The clubs were all registered under the names of his various companies: York Barbell, York Foundry, Hoffman Labs, Swiss Automatic and Dover Advertising. The last being a shell company supposedly run by Alda which allowed her to pocket a tidy sum each month for all the ads placed in Muscular Development and Strength & Health. Of course, she never did any such thing. It was just a way to keep more money in the family and pay a few less taxes.

I was rather flattered that he had asked me to go along, but when I mentioned this to Grimek, he laughed and said gruffly, “Hell Starr, he doesn’t need your vote. He already has the whole committee in his back pocket. He just wants some company.” Which I discovered was true. But I really didn’t mind for what benefited the YBC also benefited me and my fellow lifters, and I was also curious to see what went on at the meeting. The Middle Atlantic AAU was the most powerful, in terms of weightlifting, in the country.

What everyone failed to mention was the fact that I should drive. This was not an oversight on my fellow workers part. It was all part of the initiation process. He picked me up at the office at 3:45. I knew that the meeting did not start until 7, but figured we were going to stop on the way for a leisurely meal. That would be normal behavior, but I soon learned that Hoffman was not a normal human being.

We roared out of the YBC parking lot like the devil was after us. Up Market Street we flew. Red lights had no meaning for him whatsoever. After zipping through the third one in a row, I mentioned that he was running red lights, thinking that he forgot his glasses, was preoccupied and had missed them or was color blind. It was none of the above. “After all” he replied, “they looked yellow to me.” And stepped on the gas.

Yes, in a pig’s eye, I thought, tightening my seat belt and locking one hand on the dash. Sometimes he was forced to stop because of a line of traffic in front of him. This irritated him to no end. He would grumble under his breath, rock back and forth and gun his engine. If the car in front of him didn’t move the instant the light changed, he blared his horn. On one occasion, when the car in front didn’t move quickly enough, he passed him on the right shoulder. Now I knew I was in a car with a madman.

Once we cleared York, he really let the Lincoln air out. I only checked the speedometer once; it was tickling ninety. He passed on curves, hills, anywhere his heart desired. If he ran one car off the road, he ran off half a dozen. They would shout and blare their horns, but he didn’t seem to mind.

When we finally pulled to a stop in downtown Philadelphia, my knuckles were white and my sphincter had chewed off all the buttons on the passenger seat. I was in a daze. Hoffman checked his watch, smiled and said proudly, “Made good time.”

Now I understood his insanity. It was a game to see if he could better his driving time from his last trip. At that moment I vowed to either drive home or catch a bus. We were over two hours early for the meeting. We sat around a lobby, doing nothing. I was starved, but had no idea where I was so waited it out. Surely he would feed me sometime during the night. After a rather short, uneventful meeting in which I was not even called upon to vote on anything, we left. I quickly offered to drive. Well, actually it was more in the form of begging. I told him I had never driven such a fine car and would really appreciate it if he would allow me to do so. He agreed rather readily and I gathered that breaking the time record from Philly to York wasn’t that important.

It wasn’t, because we made a stop for food. He directed me to a small carry-out, reeking of grease in South Philly. He bought us two huge cheese steaks, which we ate on the road. This, I found out, was standard procedure for any trip to Philly. Cheese steaks were cheap and you got lots of food. Right up Hoffman’s alley.

On the ride to Philly, he hadn’t talked much for he was too intent on his version of driving, but on the ride home he never shut up. It was his habit to talk about what he was currently writing about at the time. Unfortunately for me, he happened to be writing about problems of the digestive tract, so he went on and on about impacted bowels and the amount of feces found in the human body; none of which was helping me digest the greasy food I had just eaten.

That’s when I learned to get him to talk about his younger years. As long as the subject was Hoffman, he didn’t mind switching topics. Some of it was quite interesting. I asked how he got into physical culture in the first place and he said he got bored while living in western Pennsylvania, where his father was employed building dams, so he started running. At four years of age he used to run around and around a tennis court near his home. He of course exaggerated how far he ran, but this I took with a grain of salt. It was common knowledge around the YBC that you always divided any number he told you in half when it came to his exploits and doubled any number which dealt with money. His stories were certainly less offensive than his talk of excrement.

When I reported his wild driving the next day, everyone got a big laugh out of it. “Welcome to the club,” Suggs said. “You’ll learn to always drive when you travel with him or suffer the consequences.”

Which is exactly what I did from then on. Except for one trip. He had just bought a new Lincoln and was in a hurry, so he refused to get out of the driver’s seat. Reluctantly, I got in, hoping the Philly trip had been an unusual experience since we were going to a health food convention in Allentown. Hopefully, there wasn’t any driving record from York to Allentown to challenge. No such luck. Once again he broke the speed limit down Market Street, ignored all the red lights, then shot across the road in front of two oncoming cars into the parking lot of a Dairy Freeze. He asked me if I wanted anything, but I said no for it was only 4 o’clock. He went in, came out carrying a hot dog, dripping with relish, mustard and catsup along with a chocolate sundae. My job was to hold the sundae while he gulped down the hot dog. A good portion of the relish, mustard and catsup made its way to his shirt and suit coat, but he made short order of the hot dog, then disposed of the sundae just as quickly. It was as if he hadn’t eaten in a month.

Once he finished the sundae, he went back to driving with vengeance, the purpose being to scare the daylights completely out of me. I have to say he succeeded nicely.

He never stayed within fifteen miles of the speed limit, and on one occasion passed a semi on a long, steep hill when a car was clearly coming from the other direction. If the truck hadn’t had air brakes, he would have been toast. When we stopped in front of the high school, my legs were shaking and I wondered if I was going to be able to lift anything. That’s why he’d brought me along; to give a lifting demonstration. Then he was to deliver a talk on nutrition.

I didn’t lift much since the audience was all older folks and couldn’t tell the difference between a 200-pound press and a 300-pound effort. Hoffman took the stage and damned if he didn’t surprise me again. He actually stood in front of all those people in this high school auditorium and told them that he hadn’t eaten anything but two of his high protein bars a day for the past two weeks. Oh yes, he also drank lots of water to clean out his system. And ran a few hundred miles a week. He was so sincere that if I hadn’t seen him gulp down all that junk food only an hour earlier I think I would have believed him. Either he was the world’s greatest liar or his brain was so far gone he actually believed what he was saying.

Once again, he allowed me to drive home; it seemed going home was never as urgent as getting to where he was going. This was a new Lincoln, equipped with extremely sensitive power brakes. I had never driven any car with brakes like this and every time I stopped, I damn near sent him flying through the windshield. He would pop his head against the dash over and over. “Sorry,” I mumbled, “I’m not used to these power brakes.”

He didn’t say anything until after the fourth time I sent him flying forward, then he grumbled, “Well after all, Bill, I’d think you’d have the hang of it by now.” For the rest of the drive, he kept both hands planted firmly on the dashboard.

Eventually, I did learn to just barely touch the brake pedal, but he still kept himself braced, just in case. I was still a bit flabbergasted by his remarks about fasting and was dying to ask him why he told such a blatant lie. But I wasn’t sure how he might take the question and certainly didn’t want to offend the man who was responsible for feeding me and my family. When we got back to York, he had me pull into that same Dairy Freeze where he bought another hot dog and sundae. I knew then and there that any idea of broaching the subject was out of the question. He was totally mad.

I had one adventure while driving that helped to elevate my status with him tremendously. We were coming back from a convention in St. Louis. We had left his car at Baltimore Washington International airport and I was driving it back to York on I-83. We were almost to the Mason-Dixon line when smoke started rolling out of the hood. I pulled over, got the hood open and saw there was a fire on the engine. A fire of some size. Hoffman was beside me by this time. He just stood there looking at the flames. “Well after all, I wonder how that started?

I could have cared less how it started. What concerned me was being stranded on the highway late at night. I snatched up some grass from beside the shoulder, thinking it was green, but it was dry. When I stuffed it on the flames, they erupted even higher. Hoffman still did nothing but talk. “Why Bill, that didn’t seem like a good idea.”

I ran down the embankment, dug out some dirt and packed this on the fire. That did the trick. In minutes, the fire was out. I wasn’t sure if the car would run, but it did and got us home safely. For the rest of the drive, all he could do was talk about how I put that fire out. “That was really smart of you Bill. You saved my nice car.”

For several months after the event, whenever he saw me he would tell whoever he was talking to about how my quick action saved his nice car. He never did mention the part about me putting dry grass on the flames; and for once I was happy that he had this way of eliminating any fact that might interfere with a good story. The bad part about the episode from my standpoint was that he would also talk about it every time I was about to try an attempt on the platform when he was announcing. It did little for my concentration.

There were a few times when he preferred to drive himself, usually when he had some meeting that he didn’t want Dietz or Terpak to know about. He had to do many things behind their backs because they would often try to prevent him from doing anything that utilized the companies’ money, even though it was his money. On this particular trip, he was negotiating to buy a candy company and had driven by himself to look over the plant. It wass located in northwestern Maryland and he was coming home on the back roads. Pennsylvania back roads were built following cow paths, and are very hazardous with lots of sharp curves, blind hills and no shoulders. Even those who used them regularly knew to drive cautiously. Not Hoffman. He kept his foot to the gas pedal anyway. On this night, he met with an unexpected obstacle – a long bed truck was stalled alongside the road.

Hoffman sent his Lincoln full-tilt into the back of the trailer and he was taken by ambulance to York County Hospital. It’s really a wonder the collision didn’t kill him, but for all his shortcomings, he was a sturdy S.O.B. He had tubes dangling out of him and he was barely able to stand, but when Alda came to visit him, he persuaded her to take him out of the hospital and drive him back to the site of the crash. His purpose was to change the automatic speed gauge in his car to the legal limit before the authorities checked it. He had Alda change if from sixty to forty-five, then went back to his hospital bed for three days. The scam worked. When the State Police questioned him, he told them he was only going the limit and if they would check his car, they would find out this was the truth

Anyone who traveled with Hoffman can tell a tale or two about his driving, but no other individual spent more time in a car with Hoffman than Bill March, and he can tell lots of stories. Besides traveling to all the meets with Hoffman, Bill also put on as many as five exhibitions a week during the course of the year. He learned early-on that it was important to get behind the wheel and not let Hoffman drive. But even with this precaution taken care of, there could still be problems.

This is my favorite. Hoffman and March were coming home after a contest one night, traveling on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Hoffman had fallen asleep in the passenger seat. Bill had moved up behind a truck transporting a load of new cars. The cars were positioned in the truck backwards with their headlights towards Bill. All of a sudden Hoffman woke up. He sees those headlights coming directly towards him and lets out a blood-curdling scream that almost caused Bill to run off the road; he thought the old man had seen something he didn’t see. Needless to add, both their hearts got a nice jolt on that night.

Traveling with Daddy Hoffman was always an adventure.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 08:14:41 AM
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

*Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

*Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

*Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

*Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

*Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

*Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

*Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

*Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

*Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young girls.
 then they will project their proclivity for miscreant behavior onto others.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 08:33:04 AM
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

*Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

*Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

*Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

*Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

*Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

*Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

*Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

*Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

*Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young girls.
 then they will project their proclivity for miscreant behavior onto others.
                           
     
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 22, 2021, 08:46:32 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/21/approximately-190000-in-u-s-died-coronavirus-bidens-first-4-months-office/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 08:57:26 AM
     
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2021, 08:59:43 AM
funk51 giving straw man a run for his money in the TDS department.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 22, 2021, 09:01:41 AM
funk51 giving straw man a run for his money in the TDS department.

And all coming from TDS sources
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 09:04:38 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 22, 2021, 09:25:09 AM
:D
Flex looks the best in this pose.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 12:44:03 PM
Marjorie Taylor Greene Fined $500 For Repeatedly Going Maskless On House Floor
Andrew Solender
Andrew SolenderForbes Staff
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Updated May 20, 2021, 12:31pm EDT
TOPLINE Three more Republicans are being slapped with $500 fines by the House sergeant-at-arms for refusing to wear masks on the House floor as part of a protest against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s refusal to lift the chamber’s mask mandate.
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UNITED STATES - MAY 14: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., and Ronny Jackson, R-Texas, right, are ...
KEY FACTS
Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), all ringleaders of the “free your face” protest, will have $500 subtracted from their paychecks after receiving first-offense warnings for going maskless on Tuesday, a Capitol official told Forbes.

While the fines haven’t been a deterrent for all the anti-mask Republicans, two of the seven who received warnings on Tuesday, Reps. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), were seen wearing their masks on the floor Wednesday.

Massie, Greene and Norman join Mariennette Miller-Meeks (R-Iowa), Brian Mast (R-Fla.) and Beth Van Duyne (R-Texas), who were fined for not wearing masks on Tuesday.

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio), who voted against House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s failed resolution to lift the mask rule on Wednesday, became the first Democrat to receive a warning under the rule.

John Kennedy, a spokesperson for Massie, told Forbes they received the first-offense warning for the Tuesday violation but “have not yet received formal communication” about the fine.

Norman spokesperson Austin Higginbotham told Forbes they, too, have not been notified of the fine, but added that Norman is vaccinated and “believes Speaker Pelosi's rules are neither rooted in science nor common sense.”

Forbes has reached out to spokespeople for Greene and Kaptur for comment.

BIG NUMBER
$2,500. That’s the fine for a third violation of the mask rule. House members make $14,500 a month before tax.

KEY BACKGROUND
Brian P. Monahan, Congress’ attending physician, lifted the mask mandate on most parts of the Capitol complex and House office buildings last week, but Pelosi has said masks will be required in the chamber and committee rooms as long as members remain unvaccinated. While all Democrats have said they’re vaccinated, less than half of Republicans report getting the vaccine, according to a CNN survey.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“CDC guidance states fully vaccinated people no longer need to wear a mask or physically distance in any setting except where required by governmental or workplace mandate. It is time to update our own workplace mandate,” 34 House Republicans wrote in a letter to Pelosi earlier this month, urging her to “follow the science.”

WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Greene and Massie have both said they have no plans to be vaccinated, with Greene tweeting that Pelosi “cannot force” vaccinations on members or require them to disclose their vaccination status, meaning the mandate is unlikely to be lifted any time soon.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 22, 2021, 12:54:31 PM
Hahahahah....let us know how that worked out 😂

If I ever meet that fat fuck I guarantee you it will be the first thing I say to him

I honestly doesn't know why someone hasn't asked him that yet

Same goes for that closet queer Lindsey Graham

Second question for Graham would be why should anyone believe anything you say since we know your words mean NOTHING

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 22, 2021, 01:05:42 PM
65 !  Is the dump cleared out yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 22, 2021, 03:51:28 PM
The Connection Between Banana and Bodybuilding
 FITNESS TIPS LOVERS 2:22:00 PM

 



If you are a gym buff, then you have probably heard that you should eat a banana before and after your work out. Yes, it’s true! A banana is a very important food for body builders and most of them do eat banana before and after their gym session. But what’s in the fruit? Is it because of its protein content? Protein is very essential in building muscles because it helps in muscular repair after an intense workout. Or is it because of the potassium? We all know that banana is very rich in potassium. Well, to know the truth, let’s see how much protein and potassium the banana contains.


 



The facts:

In an average sized banana, there would be about 400 mg of potassium and around 1 gram of protein. Now let us analyze if the protein content in a banana is sufficient enough to provide the protein needs of a bodybuilder post workout. According to studies, an average man needs 2 grams of protein/kg of body weight, and for athletes and bodybuilders, the requirement would be 3-4 gm protein/ kg of body weight. Considering the facts mentioned, we can safely conclude that eating banana after a workout has nothing to do about protein. Bananas are good source of potassium. 400 grams of potassium is actually 10 percent of the recommended potassium intake daily for the average man.


 
Electrolyte is lost during intense activities like in working out and potassium is one of those electrolytes. So eating a banana prior will help prevent too much potassium loss and eating one after workout replenish the potassium lost by the body. It will also prevent dehydration, muscular cramps and weakness which are common during excessive electrolyte loss.

So, there you go! Banana is important for bodybuilders because of its potassium content and not for its protein. To effectively improve your physique, eating a combination of banana and high protein foods like eggs, nuts and chicken breasts is the best thing to do.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2021, 04:20:00 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/21/approximately-190000-in-u-s-died-coronavirus-bidens-first-4-months-office/

Interesting half of a story. To get the full picture you'd need to know how many COVID deaths there were during Trump's last 4 months in office. My guess is Breitbart doesn't want people to make that comparison because it would take the thunder out of their claim.

Based on the graph below it appears during the 4 months prior to January 20, 2021 the number of deaths is about equal to the number of deaths afterwards.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2021, 04:26:49 PM
The Connection Between Banana and Bodybuilding
 FITNESS TIPS LOVERS 2:22:00 PM

 



If you are a gym buff, then you have probably heard that you should eat a banana before and after your work out. Yes, it’s true! A banana is a very important food for body builders and most of them do eat banana before and after their gym session. But what’s in the fruit? Is it because of its protein content? Protein is very essential in building muscles because it helps in muscular repair after an intense workout. Or is it because of the potassium? We all know that banana is very rich in potassium. Well, to know the truth, let’s see how much protein and potassium the banana contains.


 



The facts:

In an average sized banana, there would be about 400 mg of potassium and around 1 gram of protein. Now let us analyze if the protein content in a banana is sufficient enough to provide the protein needs of a bodybuilder post workout. According to studies, an average man needs 2 grams of protein/kg of body weight, and for athletes and bodybuilders, the requirement would be 3-4 gm protein/ kg of body weight. Considering the facts mentioned, we can safely conclude that eating banana after a workout has nothing to do about protein. Bananas are good source of potassium. 400 grams of potassium is actually 10 percent of the recommended potassium intake daily for the average man.


 
Electrolyte is lost during intense activities like in working out and potassium is one of those electrolytes. So eating a banana prior will help prevent too much potassium loss and eating one after workout replenish the potassium lost by the body. It will also prevent dehydration, muscular cramps and weakness which are common during excessive electrolyte loss.

So, there you go! Banana is important for bodybuilders because of its potassium content and not for its protein. To effectively improve your physique, eating a combination of banana and high protein foods like eggs, nuts and chicken breasts is the best thing to do.

Another way to accomplish getting a greater amount of protein with the potassium is to put the banana in the blender, pour your protein drink in and voila, you have a protein and potassium rich drink that tastes good (if you like the flavor of bananas).
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2021, 05:55:55 PM
If I ever meet that fat fuck I guarantee you it will be the first thing I say to him

I honestly doesn't know why someone hasn't asked him that yet

Same goes for that closet queer Lindsey Graham

Second question for Graham would be why should anyone believe anything you say since we know your words mean NOTHING


No you wouldn't, you have O'Hearn balls.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 22, 2021, 06:49:38 PM
If I ever meet that fat fuck I guarantee you it will be the first thing I say to him

I honestly doesn't know why someone hasn't asked him that yet

Same goes for that closet queer Lindsey Graham

Second question for Graham would be why should anyone believe anything you say since we know your words mean NOTHING



Hahahahahaha....you ain’t saying anything to anyone 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
An Early History of Barbells?
Where to begin when discussing the history of the barbell? Thankfully better, much better, minds than me have asked this question. One of the first academic studies of the barbell was written by Jan Todd, who traced the object to the mid-nineteenth-century when American and European strongmen and health promoters began to toy with the kind of implements needed to build strength, muscles and health.(2) Her findings were echoed by fellow strength chroniclers David Webster and more recently, Randy Roach, both of whom found little evidence of the barbells existence prior to the mid to late 1800s.(3) Why the delay, especially given the longevity of the dumbbell in human history?

Though it is nigh on impossible to discover why this was the case, there are some interesting factors to consider. While militaries had been using dumbbells and Indian clubs from the early 1800s, there was little need for progressively heavier weights at this time. Few individuals had the luxury or desire to dedicate to muscle building. Lightweight training, as was the norm during this period was primarily based upon improving agility and correcting postural issues.

[Does club swinging sound antiquated? Check out the surprising benefits of club training for strength.]

Secondly, the first public gymnasiums, as we would understand them, did not emerge until the mid-nineteenth-century when individuals had the time, money and interest to dedicate to heavy training. Prior to this light weights reigned supreme. There was little economic incentive then to producing barbells or some early iteration of them. This was certainly the experience of Donald Walker, who produced a rudimentary barbell in the mid-1830s.

In his fabulously titled and hugely popular 1834 work British Manly Exercises, Walker promoted Indian club swinging for men interested in both health and strength. Encouraged by the success of his first book, Walker next set his sights on female exercise. His later work, Exercises for Ladies, recommend the use of an ‘Indian scepter’ for exercises rather than an Indian club. Similar to a baton and only minimally weighted, the scepter was nevertheless an indication that barbells would one day have a future. Sadly for Walker, his scepter was quickly cast aside as British audiences proved much more interested in club swinging than scepter raising.(4)

[See the other side: The Untold History of Weight Training Machines.]

Mid-Century Progress

As Walker’s sceptres faded from the public’s memory, a wave of new developments in Europe, Britain and the US were occurring. In France in the 1880s, Hippolyte Triat, a strongman of note, opened his own gymnasium. This was not a regular, small-scale enterprise but rather one of the largest public gymnasiums of its kind. Due to Triat’s own interest and knowledge of strength building, his gymnasium was home to some rather remarkable innovations. Thankfully for us, Triat was not shy in promoting his wares. Advertisements for his gym made reference to ‘Barres À Spheres De 6 Kilos’ or ‘bars with spheres of six kilos’. For aspiring strongmen and women, Triat also made reference to ‘Gros Halteres et Barres À Deux Mains’ or ‘large dumbbells and bars for two hands.’(5)


We don’t know how heavy these ‘barres à deux mains’ were, although some sources cite dumbbells weighing up to two hundred pounds being found in Triat’s gym. Nor do we know where Triat drew his inspiration from. To return briefly to Jan Todd’s article on the subject, Professor Todd speculated that Triat may have drawn his designs from the sort of sceptres promoted by Walker and prior to him, the orthopedics of the eighteenth-century who likewise promoted them.(6) Triat himself was silent on this subject, at least as far as his historical record is concerned.

Triat was not the only individual using barbells during this time either. Karl Rappo, an Austrian strongman who performed in several states in the late 1840s and early 1850s, was likewise said to have used globe barbells during his routine. Unlike the modern plate loaded barbells, these objects were fixed in weight with two rounded balls on each end. They were the type of barbells we would envision when thinking about stereotypical Victorian era strongmen. Now what differentiated Rappo from Triat was the the Austrian did not run his own gymnasium.(7) As far as we can tell, Rappo didn’t advise members of the public to use barbells at any point during his career. The Austrian simply used them as part of his act where they were described, like Triat, as heavy dumbbells.

Keen eyed readers will have noticed however that neither Walker, Rappo nor Triat referred to the term ‘barbell’. The history of the term itself has been traced to a Madame Brennar whose 1870 Madamme Brennar’s Gymnastics for Ladies, A Treatist on the Science and Art of Calisthenics and Gymnastic Exercises was among the first to use the term ‘barbell’. Where Brennar got the idea from is sadly unknown but Brennar’s descriptions of her barbell bore a clear resemblance to the modern object. In describing the term for her audience, Brennar wrote of an ‘appliance [that] partakes partly of the ‘Wand,’ and partly of the Dumb-bell.’(8) These devices were between four and six feet in length and were thicker than the ordinary wooden wands being used for lightweight exercise. A cursory glance at British Newspaper Archives, an online resource containing thousands of old newspaper articles published in Britain, shows a huge growth in the term post 1870.(9) Whether or not Brennar was responsible for the popularization of the term, she was one of the first entrepreneurs to use it.

Barbell Curl Exercise Guide - Squeeze at the Top
The Birth of Modern Barbells
So Walker, Triat, Rappo and to a lesser extent Brennar paved the way for the birth of the modern barbell. What then, was the spark that finally set the lifting world ablaze?



As you can imagine, it’s difficult to pinpoint the man or woman responsible for creating the first modern, heavy barbells. What we can do however is highlight where they became popular. Edgar Mueller, an early German physical culture scholar, who incidentally wrote a fantastic book on Herman Görner, argued that Turner clubs in Germany were a pivotal arena in this regard. In describing old Turner gymnasiums in Munich from the late 1870s, Mueller noted that many of these gyms contained barbells with globe ends such as the one shown below.(10)





Unlike the barbell precursors found in Triat’s gym, those in Germany were modifiable, albeit with some considerable difficulty. The globes, positioned on both ends of the barbell, contained a small and sealable opening. To increase a barbell’s weight, lifters would pour shot or sand into the globe. While this may seem a trivial modification, it’s worth laboring its importance. The ability to lift heavier barbells meant that aspiring gym goers now had the potential to build more muscle and strength than ever before. Furthermore it lay the groundwork for the eventual emergence of weightlifting competitions from Olympic lifting to powerlifting. Being able to modify the weight of barbells meant that bodybuilding, CrossFit, strongman, and whatever else we do today, was possible.

Admittedly, this change was not without its problems. It was very difficult to evenly load shot or sand into the globe barbells. Furthermore, there were allegations a plenty that lifters were manipulating barbells in weightlifting competitions. After Arthur Saxon defeated Eugen Sandow in a series of lifts in the late 1890s, Sandow began claiming that Saxon had loaded the barbell with mercury which made its weight distribution incredibly uneven. This, Sandow claimed, was the reason Saxon had been able to best him. Barbells, even unevenly loaded ones, became a mainstay among strongmen.(11) An 1891 international weightlifting competition, covered previously on Barbend, is testament to this point. The regular gym goer, except for a privileged few, was still being neglected however. What was needed was an entrepreneur with a vision.




[Learn more about the founding father of fitness, in our bio of Eugen Sandow.]

American Exceptionalism?
Europe was undoubtedly a hotbed of lifting activity in the late nineteenth and early twentieth-century. This did not mean, however, that the United States was not equally vibrant. Of relevance for the present history, we should note that the Harvard and Boston strongman George Barker Windship, whose rack pull machine swept across mid-century America, also designed some makeshift barbells. Thanks to Jan Todd we know that in 1859, Windship devised his own shot loading weights to a makeshift dumbbell.(12) Like Triat’s heavy dumbbell, this allowed Windship to create a dumbbell whose weight could be increased at several turns.




A more significant American contribution to the weightlifting community came some time after that in the form of Alan Calvert, the founder of Milo Barbell. In 1902, Calvert began producing his own rudimentary barbell and dumbbell sets. Beginning with a small set of loyal customers, Calvert’s business and influence, began to grow. Through his advertising pamphlets, Calvert inadvertently created one of the first dedicated weightlifting magazines of its kind. Calvert’s greatest achievement however, was the creation of his Milo Triplex, a barbell whose weight could be easily adjusted. Calvert’s invention, as understood by Jan Todd and Kimberly Beckwidth, whose doctoral work on Calvert is available online, marked a seminal moment in the Iron Game.(13) Users now had access to affordable barbells, whose weight varied. Importantly Calvert’s design caught on.





Soon after, similar devices had emerged in Britain and mainland Europe. The same year the Milo Complex hit the market, a German inventor, Franz Veltum, produced a disk loading barbell. This, in effect, was an early version of the barbells we use today, whose weight can be adjusted by adding or removing plates from both ends. Veltum’s barbell was first marketed to German lifters in 1910 under the supervision of the Berg Company.(14) Somewhat frustratingly, it has proven impossible to discover if Veltum or Calvert was aware of each other at this time (Calvert began replicating Veltum’s bars from 1916). In any case, it is fascinating to think that Calvert produced a mass produced adjustable barbell at the same time that Veltum created a disc loading barbell. In time the affordability of Calvert’s creation would be joined with the practicality of Veltum’s.

Innovation Never Sleeps
Though several innovations would be made in the opening decades of the twentieth-century amongst the weightlifting community, an unsung hero in this regard was the simple barbell collar. These objects, placed on either end of the barbell, help to keep plates in place, and thereby ensure the weights do not fall off the bar. Are they simple? Of course. Are they vitally important? As someone whose laziness has resulted in plates and barbells wildly flying through the air during a shaky squat, I would argue yes.




Now admittedly, the barbell collar/clamp/clip is a small and very difficult thing for historians to pinpoint its exact history. What we can say is that around the 1910s, a series of British physical culturists, like Edward Aston, began marketing their own barbell clamps, which allowed plates to be added and subtracted from the bar with even more ease than before. So next time you’re loading up the bar, take a brief moment to thank Aston and his cohort!(15)

Returning briefly to Veltum, his disc loading barbell was slowly modified in the late 1920s when Kasper Berg, of the Berg Company, expanded its length to seven feet. This length is now the standard barbell length found in modern gyms. In response to complaints about the equipment being used in Olympic Weightlifting events, Berg submitted his new design to the Olympic powers that be. Much to his great delight, they proved impressed with its durability and design. The 1928 Olympics in Antwerp saw Berg’s barbell used in each of the weightlifting events.(16) When the Olympic committee commissioned Berg to provide barbells for future Olympics, his contemporary barbell manufacturers took notice. In time, seven feet, disc loading barbells were produced by York Barbell, Jackson Barbell and several other firms.




[Read more: What Are the Different Types of Barbells?]

The Modern Age
When talking about Olympic Weightlifting, there is, of course, a very obvious company which must be addressed, Eleiko. The iconic Eleiko barbells, which first emerged in the 1950s, are for many, the quintessential Olympic barbell. While the period from 1930 to 1950 had seen a series of barbell manufacturers emerge, there was still one problem facing the lifting community. In a problem I have sadly never encountered, barbells were breaking under the immense weights being attached to them.

This, admittedly privileged, problem was enough to force Mr. Hellström, an Eleiko employee during the 1950s, to put his thinking cap on. When not working in Eleiko, then a company most famous for its waffle makers, Hellström was an avid weightlifter with a frustration borne from faulty barbells. In seeking to build a new barbell design, and stop the regularity with which barbells broke once and for all, Hellström designed a reinforced barbell made with a specially hardened steel inspired by Eleiko’s products. When his employers were approached by Hellström about mass producing the product, they proved particularly enthused. Mass production began and in 1963, the Eleiko bar debuted at the Weightlifting World Championships in Sweden. Soon after it entered the Olympic realm and has, since then, become a favorite of lifters around the world.(17)




deadlift
Pretenders to the Crown?
So before concluding, it is important to stress that not everyone has proven enamored with the standard Olympic barbell. Take for example, Lewis Dymeck, who invented the EZ Bar during the late 1950s as a means of relieving pain from his elbows during arm work.(18) Likewise Al Gerard’s trap bar, created during the 1980s, sought to find a new and sounder way of deadlifting.(19) Prior to both of these inventions we had the cambered barbell in the 1920s, which eventually re-emerged as the safety bar squat during the 1980s thanks to Dr. Fred Hatfield. Each bar was invented to fix a perceived deficiency found in the regular barbell.(20)




Trap Bar Deadlift Exercise Guide - Middle Pull
To return to the introduction of this post, Rogue’s elephant bar, which captivated the lifting community during the 2019 Arnold Strongman, was built to address a new generation of lifting feats. Rogue, who only entered the lifting game in 2007, first built a nine ft. barbell capable of sustaining several hundred pounds, for the Arnold Strongman in 2016. The barbell, which bends under the immense weight it holds, has added an extra spectacle to the event. Aside from how impressive it looks, the elephant bar serves as a good reminder that the lifting community will continue to demand, and produce, variations of the barbell at every turn.




Summing Up
While we will never know who invented that very first barbell, the device’s history spans nearly two hundred years of lifting history. Innovation has come about thanks to the enthusiasm shown by circus athletes, bodybuilders, weightlifters and, more recently, strongmen. As a piece of equipment seen as absolutely necessary for the majority of gym goers, the barbell’s evolution was by no means straightforward or simple.




Necessity, finances and inspiration were needed to bring us the modern barbell. For lifters in 2019, we’re reaping the benefits.
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Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:19:12 PM
     
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 23, 2021, 01:19:27 PM
Liked the one about Bob Hoffmann.  Guy was bananas.

Bananas are just about pure carbs/sugar.  Muscles run on glycogen so eating a banana fuels the muscles.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 23, 2021, 01:21:15 PM
Rogue's elephant bar allows more weight to be lifted because flexes so much.

Turns a deadlift into a rack pull more or less.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on May 23, 2021, 01:36:51 PM
     
     


How do you feel knowing that Trump is still the most powerful person in America?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:40:49 PM
How do you feel knowing that Trump is still the most powerful person in America?
      WHO INVENTED THE EZ BAR?
July 27, 2017 Conor Heffernan Resources, Training 5 comments
ezbar-comparison
A piece of equipment so commonplace on the gym floor that we often take its very existence for granted. That, at least, is my impression of the E-Z Bar. Having previously discussed the history of barbells, the ancient origins of the dumbbell and even the Swiss Ball for God’s sake, it’s somewhat shameful that the E-Z Bar’s history has been neglected. Especially after it helped me to rehab my elbows following an overzealous few months doing triceps extensions with a straight barbell (Not the smartest in hindsight).

So who do we credit for the EZ Bar and when exactly did this handy piece of equipment come into being?


The Origins of the EZ Bar

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Photo courtesy of Ironhistory.com. See here.

Unlike the aforementioned dumbbells and barbells, whose first creator will remain anonymous it seems until the end of time, the man responsible for the EZ bar is remarkably easier to track down. In one of the more morbid searches I’ve done in recent years, I can tell you that Lewis Dymeck, an American lifter born in Arizona, was the man responsible for the EZ bar so popular amongst lifers.

Why morbid I sense you asking?

Well Louis had a relatively small online footprint, meaning that aside from trawling through old lifting mags from the 1950s, which PhD permitting I hope to do in the coming months, the best information I’ve gotten on today’s inventor comes from his death notice and obituary… So yes… morbid.

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Courtesy of Findsgrave.com… A resource I never thought I’d need for this blog.

But it’s not all bad as aside from the above, I did come across a Daily Courier article written in honour of today’s inventor. Interviewing Lewis’ friends and family, we get a pretty cool insight into both the man and the inventor. Although I’m not sure about the FBI stuff! If you’ll indulge me I’d like to quote some of the piece:

In addition to patenting exercise equipment at their childhood home in Williamsport, Pa., Lewis Dymeck had Q clearance – pretty much “top secret” stuff – to work with the nascent Atomic Energy Commission; he was the first engineer at Hughes Aircraft Co. to get his own patent funding; and the FBI called him for consultant work….

Dennis Dymeck remembers his father working metal in shorter and shorter bent bars until settling on and selling the 48-inch, 1-and-1-16th diameter bar back in Pennsylvania.

“I remember him working on the bars, making them shorter and shorter. Then he’d bend the metal and go get them nickel-plated,” said Dennis Dymeck, whose father got him involved with weightlifting at a young age. “And he packaged them up in the kitchen, the ones he sold. It was a one-man show.”

Now in any case, Lewis’s invention came to light in the late 1940s and early 1950s when he obtained the first patent for the EZ Bar. Quite luckily for us, the original patent is still available online (here).

So why did he bother?

A common question faced by many people with an idea is why should I care? Why bother? And more often than not, who cares?

Well for Lewis, this bar would help solve a common problem across the gym floor. It would help lifters’ keep their form, and one imagines their body parts, in check. Going through the patent’s information we read that

As therefore proposed, the straight bar bell device is one that is used for the standard exercises to effect the development of the arms and biceps. In these exercises, the instructions are always the same and recite that the exercisemust be done with strength of arms alone, while keeping the elbows close to the user’s sides, without swinging the body.

However, very few persons can do such exercises correctly, since it is not natural or comfortable to do such exercise with a straight bar bell.

It has been found that by providing the bar of the bar bell with a pair of tortuous portions in proper spaced relation intermediate its ends so as to form hand grips, a bar bell is produced which overcomes the disadvantages of the conventional straight bar bell.

Accordingly, an object of this invention is to provide a bar bell for exercising purposes which will permit the exercises to be done correctly without body movement or strain.

Another object of the invention is to provide a bar bell which is simple in construction, rugged in design and highly eflicient in action.

So for once the gym bros’ cheat curling for biceps came to some good eh? Lewis’ invention was primarily catered to those for whom strict technique was an afterthought. The resultant bar was as follows

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Expanding the EZ Empire

So Lewis Dymeck got his patent in 1950… then what? What steps were taken to promote it amongst the general public? Given the industry at the time, Lewis’ decisions following his patent were to prove pivotal.

Within months of gaining his patent Lewis uprooted and moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Once there, he entered into business with Andy Jackson of the Jackson Barbell Company. Though Lewis had been advertising his bar since the patent, his partnership with Jackson promised a greater ease of production, distribution and marketing.

Thus from 1952 to 1954, one finds a series of advertisements for the rather technical sounding Dymeck/Jackson Curl Bar. For reasons I haven’t been able to understand just yet, the bar was rebranded from 1954 to 1964 when it became the Jackson Curl Bar.

In 1964, Jackson sold the rights to the Muscle Mogul Bob Hoffman, who began to produce and distribute the product under the name EZ Curl Bar. Though Lewis and Andy were the forerunners of this product, it is Hoffman one suspects who helped popularise the device and also the new name.

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Indeed within a decade of Hoffman’s acquisition, the EZ bar had become a favourite of both competitive bodybuilders and the lay public. A position it seems to have held ever since.

Nevertheless if you ever stumble across an EZ bar with the initials ‘LD’ etched inside, you’ll know the meaning!

As always…Happy Lifting!

P.S. Given our love of being lifting hipsters, here are some great but rarely seen EZ Bar Exercises for Biceps, Triceps and the Chest.

Spider Curls


The French Press


EZ Pullover


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Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:46:41 PM
      WHO INVENTED THE EZ BAR?
July 27, 2017 Conor Heffernan Resources, Training 5 comments
ezbar-comparison
A piece of equipment so commonplace on the gym floor that we often take its very existence for granted. That, at least, is my impression of the E-Z Bar. Having previously discussed the history of barbells, the ancient origins of the dumbbell and even the Swiss Ball for God’s sake, it’s somewhat shameful that the E-Z Bar’s history has been neglected. Especially after it helped me to rehab my elbows following an overzealous few months doing triceps extensions with a straight barbell (Not the smartest in hindsight).

So who do we credit for the EZ Bar and when exactly did this handy piece of equipment come into being?


The Origins of the EZ Bar

17862504_151202870216312 6_4863751513216342712_n
Photo courtesy of Ironhistory.com. See here.

Unlike the aforementioned dumbbells and barbells, whose first creator will remain anonymous it seems until the end of time, the man responsible for the EZ bar is remarkably easier to track down. In one of the more morbid searches I’ve done in recent years, I can tell you that Lewis Dymeck, an American lifter born in Arizona, was the man responsible for the EZ bar so popular amongst lifers.

Why morbid I sense you asking?

Well Louis had a relatively small online footprint, meaning that aside from trawling through old lifting mags from the 1950s, which PhD permitting I hope to do in the coming months, the best information I’ve gotten on today’s inventor comes from his death notice and obituary… So yes… morbid.

UNCEM_1469150831147.JPG
Courtesy of Findsgrave.com… A resource I never thought I’d need for this blog.

But it’s not all bad as aside from the above, I did come across a Daily Courier article written in honour of today’s inventor. Interviewing Lewis’ friends and family, we get a pretty cool insight into both the man and the inventor. Although I’m not sure about the FBI stuff! If you’ll indulge me I’d like to quote some of the piece:

In addition to patenting exercise equipment at their childhood home in Williamsport, Pa., Lewis Dymeck had Q clearance – pretty much “top secret” stuff – to work with the nascent Atomic Energy Commission; he was the first engineer at Hughes Aircraft Co. to get his own patent funding; and the FBI called him for consultant work….

Dennis Dymeck remembers his father working metal in shorter and shorter bent bars until settling on and selling the 48-inch, 1-and-1-16th diameter bar back in Pennsylvania.

“I remember him working on the bars, making them shorter and shorter. Then he’d bend the metal and go get them nickel-plated,” said Dennis Dymeck, whose father got him involved with weightlifting at a young age. “And he packaged them up in the kitchen, the ones he sold. It was a one-man show.”

Now in any case, Lewis’s invention came to light in the late 1940s and early 1950s when he obtained the first patent for the EZ Bar. Quite luckily for us, the original patent is still available online (here).

So why did he bother?

A common question faced by many people with an idea is why should I care? Why bother? And more often than not, who cares?

Well for Lewis, this bar would help solve a common problem across the gym floor. It would help lifters’ keep their form, and one imagines their body parts, in check. Going through the patent’s information we read that

As therefore proposed, the straight bar bell device is one that is used for the standard exercises to effect the development of the arms and biceps. In these exercises, the instructions are always the same and recite that the exercisemust be done with strength of arms alone, while keeping the elbows close to the user’s sides, without swinging the body.

However, very few persons can do such exercises correctly, since it is not natural or comfortable to do such exercise with a straight bar bell.

It has been found that by providing the bar of the bar bell with a pair of tortuous portions in proper spaced relation intermediate its ends so as to form hand grips, a bar bell is produced which overcomes the disadvantages of the conventional straight bar bell.

Accordingly, an object of this invention is to provide a bar bell for exercising purposes which will permit the exercises to be done correctly without body movement or strain.

Another object of the invention is to provide a bar bell which is simple in construction, rugged in design and highly eflicient in action.

So for once the gym bros’ cheat curling for biceps came to some good eh? Lewis’ invention was primarily catered to those for whom strict technique was an afterthought. The resultant bar was as follows

US2508567-0.png
Expanding the EZ Empire

So Lewis Dymeck got his patent in 1950… then what? What steps were taken to promote it amongst the general public? Given the industry at the time, Lewis’ decisions following his patent were to prove pivotal.

Within months of gaining his patent Lewis uprooted and moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Once there, he entered into business with Andy Jackson of the Jackson Barbell Company. Though Lewis had been advertising his bar since the patent, his partnership with Jackson promised a greater ease of production, distribution and marketing.

Thus from 1952 to 1954, one finds a series of advertisements for the rather technical sounding Dymeck/Jackson Curl Bar. For reasons I haven’t been able to understand just yet, the bar was rebranded from 1954 to 1964 when it became the Jackson Curl Bar.

In 1964, Jackson sold the rights to the Muscle Mogul Bob Hoffman, who began to produce and distribute the product under the name EZ Curl Bar. Though Lewis and Andy were the forerunners of this product, it is Hoffman one suspects who helped popularise the device and also the new name.

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Indeed within a decade of Hoffman’s acquisition, the EZ bar had become a favourite of both competitive bodybuilders and the lay public. A position it seems to have held ever since.

Nevertheless if you ever stumble across an EZ bar with the initials ‘LD’ etched inside, you’ll know the meaning!

As always…Happy Lifting!

P.S. Given our love of being lifting hipsters, here are some great but rarely seen EZ Bar Exercises for Biceps, Triceps and the Chest.

Spider Curls


The French Press


EZ Pullover
           
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:49:56 PM
&t=115s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 23, 2021, 01:51:23 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2021, 02:20:17 PM

Title should read "Bitem touts rigging election to overthrow the government and liberals celebrate their idiocy"
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Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2021, 02:53:58 PM
Title should read "Bitem touts rigging election to overthrow the government and liberals celebrate their idiocy"

Do you and Coach ever get together for a cup of coffee or a protein drink, a chat about politics and a lot of patting one another on the back?  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 23, 2021, 03:05:12 PM
Biden touts kids play with his hairy legs, while sniffing the panties of his daughter and her friends while watching romper-room and not quite getting it..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 23, 2021, 03:23:44 PM
How do you feel knowing that Trump is still the most powerful person in America?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUOF9NaqPo
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 23, 2021, 06:01:45 PM
Do you and Coach ever get together for a cup of coffee or a protein drink, a chat about politics and a lot of patting one another on the back?  :)

Yes... and we plot
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 23, 2021, 06:02:43 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUOF9NaqPo

How do you feel knowing Trump is still the most powerful person in the country?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 23, 2021, 06:14:04 PM
The Connection Between Banana and Bodybuilding
 FITNESS TIPS LOVERS 2:22:00 PM

 



If you are a gym buff, then you have probably heard that you should eat a banana before and after your work out. Yes, it’s true! A banana is a very important food for body builders and most of them do eat banana before and after their gym session. But what’s in the fruit? Is it because of its protein content? Protein is very essential in building muscles because it helps in muscular repair after an intense workout. Or is it because of the potassium? We all know that banana is very rich in potassium. Well, to know the truth, let’s see how much protein and potassium the banana contains.


 



The facts:

......... Bananas are good source of potassium. 400 grams of potassium is actually 10 percent of the recommended potassium intake daily for the average man.




STUPID old funk, 400 grams of potassium would kill anyone  :o ,  regarding to YOU  : 4 kg (4000 grams) of potassium is recommended  :o.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 23, 2021, 06:18:51 PM
Interesting half of a story. To get the full picture you'd need to know how many COVID deaths there were during Trump's last 4 months in office. My guess is Breitbart doesn't want people to make that comparison because it would take the thunder out of their claim.

Based on the graph below it appears during the 4 months prior to January 20, 2021 the number of deaths is about equal to the number of deaths afterwards.

Thanks for that NY Times graph lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2021, 06:26:13 PM
Yes... and we plot

That's just as I suspected.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2021, 06:35:31 PM
Thanks for that NY Times graph lol

You are welcome. You are also welcome to post a graph from one of your sources. It might be interesting to see the contrast....if in fact there is one.

What I know is that some of the Oregon  COVID restrictions have been relaxed just this week. I went to the liquor store yesterday and the sign saying masks required was gone. In its place was a sign which read if you are fully vaccinated, masks are not required. I guess the clerk must be fully vaccinated because she and I were both mask free....yippee! No more fogged up glasses and mumble mouthed conversations.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 23, 2021, 06:48:02 PM
Yes... and we plot

Is that like swapping spit?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 23, 2021, 07:57:41 PM
You are welcome. You are also welcome to post a graph from one of your sources. It might be interesting to see the contrast....if in fact there is one.

What I know is that some of the Oregon  COVID restrictions have been relaxed just this week. I went to the liquor store yesterday and the sign saying masks required was gone. In its place was a sign which read if you are fully vaccinated, masks are not required. I guess the clerk must be fully vaccinated because she and I were both mask free....yippee! No more fogged up glasses and mumble mouthed conversations.

That’s good. Apparently there’s no Chinavirus among the local terrorists there....only applies to law abiding citizens who don’t what their shit burned down
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 24, 2021, 09:18:56 AM
Meanwhile in NH...

https://electionwiz.com/2021/05/21/breaking-new-hampshire-audit-confirms-voting-machines-results-unreliable/comment-page-1/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 09:24:49 AM
Meanwhile in NH...

https://electionwiz.com/2021/05/21/breaking-new-hampshire-audit-confirms-voting-machines-results-unreliable/comment-page-1/
             
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 24, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
             
     


2021...
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Post by: Body-Buildah on May 24, 2021, 09:35:06 AM
"If you could reason with a democrat, there wouldn’t be any democrats"!  :)

Dumbest group of kvnts in history.

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
Its monday - is the garbage heap cleaned up yet? 
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Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 12:02:30 PM
Its monday - is the garbage heap cleaned up yet?
       
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HOMOPHOBIA AND BODYBUILDING
July 22, 2016 Conor Heffernan Resources 2 comments
$_35
The following article comes from Strength & Health magazine, a 1950s American physical culture bi-weekly concerned with all things fitness. In the article, managing editor Harry B. Paschall attacks rival exercise magazines, whom he believes are using bodybuilding to peddle pornographic images.

The title of the article, ‘Let me Tell You a Fairy Tale’, reveals Harry’s opinions on the matter, demonstrating the long engrained homophobia of the exercise world. This homophobia is particularly striking in the bodybuilding world, which has long kept quiet on the issue despite the fact that Eugen Sandow, the founder of modern day bodybuilding, had a male lover. Heck even nowadays, people merely allude to the concept of ‘gay for pay’, leaving us to wonder how much longer will heterosexuality rule the bodybuilding scene.

See the article below.

The menace of homosexual magazines is more serious than ever before, and the cause of clean physical culture is threatened by peddlers of pornography

Above are a few typical examples of the so-called Body Beautiful magazines aimed at the profitable homosexual trade. Such publications have infiltrated the bodybuiding field in recent years, contributing to juvenile delinquency and debauchery.


A FEW DAYS AGO, we received a letter from a police officer in New Jersey who complained that he could not buy Strength and Health in his town because all so-called “mucle magaizines” were barred from the newsstands through action of local people working in cooperation with The League of Decency, a Catholic Organization with headquarters in Chicago, Illinois.

The officer was perturbed over the situation because he felt that Strength and Health offered wholesome advice and a healthful hobby for young boys through weightlifting and weight-training. He thought the Leauge of Decency was hurting its own purpose by barring an influence for good in the comunity. We agree with him, but we can also understand the attitude of the League for it is quite natural to consider all the apples in a barrel bad if those on the top are rotten. We have written the League officials asking them to carefully read our magazine and decide for themselves if there is objectionable material in our pages.

If you will walk into your neighborhood newsdealer’s you can see for yourself the type of magazine that is causing censorship. In the past several years a flood of undersized booklets featuring the male physique in all stages of nudity have appeared. We show a few of these, picked at random, in the accompanying photograph. [note: the ones above are not the exact same issues as in the S&H article – TMF] Under the guise of wholesome physical culture, these dirtly little books are aimed directly at a very profitable market, the homosexual or “fairy” trade. They are on the stands for one reason only – to make a profit. Circulation figures show they do just that, because they outsell the regular physical culture journals, and are so cheap to print, that the profit is obvious.

While their ciruclation figures are impressive, another factor enters into their large apparent sale. They are so small they can easily be slipped into a pocket by youngsters who frequent the magainze racks, and thus carried out without payment at all. Of course this does not bother either the publisher or the distributor, since the dealer must pay for the magaine whether he actually sells it or not. How much the average store which deals in magazines loses on this type of publication is uncertain, but in our judgment, the type of person who reads such trash is very apt to be dishonest enough to steal anything in sight.

These magazines pretend to offer physical training advice, but they haven’t the space to do so. They are simply inteded to attract the attention of lovers of the male physique, and unfortunately, this includes a sizable number of misguided young bodybuilders whose intentions are good. The fact that they are aimed at the homo trade seems to escape these readers. Even the fact that they feature advertising by photographers known to cater to the “swish” trade, seems to leave the more normal bodybuilders unimpressed. We have even heard men high in the ranks of weightlifting and weight-traning condone these publications by saying they are harmless, and that all publicity is good publicity. Many young fellows who do not know the score actually submit photographs to these publications in the hope they will get publicity for their fine physiques.

There is a large group of so called bodybuilders in the country who simply close their eyes whenever this homo racket is mentioned. They seem to think that if they keep their eyes and their minds closed, the slimy creature will go away. But it won’t. When a venoumous reptile comes into your house you have to crush it or take the chance of being poisoned.

When the situation has reached a point where we cannot sell a clean magazine because of these dirty publications, we think something should be done about it. Other publishers continue to take this filthy money, and to cater to the immoral perverts who make these indecent pictures. Whenever you see a magazine that carries even ONE photographer’s advertisement featuring male photos, you know you are dealing with people without moral principles of any sort. These are the people who are killing a clean and wholesome sport.

What can we do about it ? One thing sure – we are not going to suffer in silence. We suggest, for one thing, that the AAU bar from competition in any athletic event any person whose photo has appeared in one of these trashy magazines. It is these so-called bodybuilders who have encouraged this disgracefull situation by offering their photographs for use in stimulating a vicicious trade. Some of these young men have cause to be proud of their bodies, because, in many cases, they built them from weakness to superb strength and health. But they certainly cannot understand the true facts — that these pictures are now being exposed to the droolings of homosexuals, and that their appearance in these books encourages other young and innocent boys to do likewise.

The police officer who wrote us about this situation tells about the efforts of the Boys Clubs and PAL (Police Athletic Association) to rescue underprivileged boys from the temptations of the slums, and he points out that weightlifting in such clubs have proven to be a splendid antidote against evil influences that contribute to juvenile delinquency. Yet the magazine stand in most communities stand free and open with this type of literature. Some time ago, the Comic Book Industry was forced to clean up the dirt in their publications. When are we going to do this in the field of physical training ?

What respect can anyone have for a man or boy caught with one of these books in his hands ? And why should Strength and Health suffer for the crimes of others ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 12:29:46 PM
HOMOPHOBIA AND BODYBUILDING
July 22, 2016 Conor Heffernan Resources 2 comments
$_35
The following article comes from Strength & Health magazine, a 1950s American physical culture bi-weekly concerned with all things fitness. In the article, managing editor Harry B. Paschall attacks rival exercise magazines, whom he believes are using bodybuilding to peddle pornographic images.

The title of the article, ‘Let me Tell You a Fairy Tale’, reveals Harry’s opinions on the matter, demonstrating the long engrained homophobia of the exercise world. This homophobia is particularly striking in the bodybuilding world, which has long kept quiet on the issue despite the fact that Eugen Sandow, the founder of modern day bodybuilding, had a male lover. Heck even nowadays, people merely allude to the concept of ‘gay for pay’, leaving us to wonder how much longer will heterosexuality rule the bodybuilding scene.

See the article below.

The menace of homosexual magazines is more serious than ever before, and the cause of clean physical culture is threatened by peddlers of pornography

Above are a few typical examples of the so-called Body Beautiful magazines aimed at the profitable homosexual trade. Such publications have infiltrated the bodybuiding field in recent years, contributing to juvenile delinquency and debauchery.


A FEW DAYS AGO, we received a letter from a police officer in New Jersey who complained that he could not buy Strength and Health in his town because all so-called “mucle magaizines” were barred from the newsstands through action of local people working in cooperation with The League of Decency, a Catholic Organization with headquarters in Chicago, Illinois.

The officer was perturbed over the situation because he felt that Strength and Health offered wholesome advice and a healthful hobby for young boys through weightlifting and weight-training. He thought the Leauge of Decency was hurting its own purpose by barring an influence for good in the comunity. We agree with him, but we can also understand the attitude of the League for it is quite natural to consider all the apples in a barrel bad if those on the top are rotten. We have written the League officials asking them to carefully read our magazine and decide for themselves if there is objectionable material in our pages.

If you will walk into your neighborhood newsdealer’s you can see for yourself the type of magazine that is causing censorship. In the past several years a flood of undersized booklets featuring the male physique in all stages of nudity have appeared. We show a few of these, picked at random, in the accompanying photograph. [note: the ones above are not the exact same issues as in the S&H article – TMF] Under the guise of wholesome physical culture, these dirtly little books are aimed directly at a very profitable market, the homosexual or “fairy” trade. They are on the stands for one reason only – to make a profit. Circulation figures show they do just that, because they outsell the regular physical culture journals, and are so cheap to print, that the profit is obvious.

While their ciruclation figures are impressive, another factor enters into their large apparent sale. They are so small they can easily be slipped into a pocket by youngsters who frequent the magainze racks, and thus carried out without payment at all. Of course this does not bother either the publisher or the distributor, since the dealer must pay for the magaine whether he actually sells it or not. How much the average store which deals in magazines loses on this type of publication is uncertain, but in our judgment, the type of person who reads such trash is very apt to be dishonest enough to steal anything in sight.

These magazines pretend to offer physical training advice, but they haven’t the space to do so. They are simply inteded to attract the attention of lovers of the male physique, and unfortunately, this includes a sizable number of misguided young bodybuilders whose intentions are good. The fact that they are aimed at the homo trade seems to escape these readers. Even the fact that they feature advertising by photographers known to cater to the “swish” trade, seems to leave the more normal bodybuilders unimpressed. We have even heard men high in the ranks of weightlifting and weight-traning condone these publications by saying they are harmless, and that all publicity is good publicity. Many young fellows who do not know the score actually submit photographs to these publications in the hope they will get publicity for their fine physiques.

There is a large group of so called bodybuilders in the country who simply close their eyes whenever this homo racket is mentioned. They seem to think that if they keep their eyes and their minds closed, the slimy creature will go away. But it won’t. When a venoumous reptile comes into your house you have to crush it or take the chance of being poisoned.

When the situation has reached a point where we cannot sell a clean magazine because of these dirty publications, we think something should be done about it. Other publishers continue to take this filthy money, and to cater to the immoral perverts who make these indecent pictures. Whenever you see a magazine that carries even ONE photographer’s advertisement featuring male photos, you know you are dealing with people without moral principles of any sort. These are the people who are killing a clean and wholesome sport.

What can we do about it ? One thing sure – we are not going to suffer in silence. We suggest, for one thing, that the AAU bar from competition in any athletic event any person whose photo has appeared in one of these trashy magazines. It is these so-called bodybuilders who have encouraged this disgracefull situation by offering their photographs for use in stimulating a vicicious trade. Some of these young men have cause to be proud of their bodies, because, in many cases, they built them from weakness to superb strength and health. But they certainly cannot understand the true facts — that these pictures are now being exposed to the droolings of homosexuals, and that their appearance in these books encourages other young and innocent boys to do likewise.

The police officer who wrote us about this situation tells about the efforts of the Boys Clubs and PAL (Police Athletic Association) to rescue underprivileged boys from the temptations of the slums, and he points out that weightlifting in such clubs have proven to be a splendid antidote against evil influences that contribute to juvenile delinquency. Yet the magazine stand in most communities stand free and open with this type of literature. Some time ago, the Comic Book Industry was forced to clean up the dirt in their publications. When are we going to do this in the field of physical training ?

What respect can anyone have for a man or boy caught with one of these books in his hands ? And why should Strength and Health suffer for the crimes of others ?
     Is The Bodybuilding Industry Gay for Pay? Bodybuilding Troll Vince Goodrum Takes Shots at Nick Trigili
By GI Team -February 25, 2020
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Self-proclaimed bodybuilding troll Vince Goodrum posted a video slamming Generation Iron for hiring “Gay 4 Pay” bodybuilding consult Nick Trigili.
Vince Goodrum, a YouTuber whose bio simply reads “The First Ever Bodybuilding & Fitness Internet Troll Of The Industry,” called out Generation Iron on his YouTube channel for rumors that contributor Nick Trigili was involved in gay for pay schemes despite not actually being gay. While former bodybuilders and fitness experts frequently contribute to Generation Iron as freelance journalists, Nick Trigili has never been formally employed or legally contracted by our organization.




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The video is a fairly obvious grab for views that, in typical clickbait format, pairs up a shocking video title with a not-so-shocking video reveal.



“Here’s my opinion about this,” says Vince Goodrum very early on in the video. “From where it stands, Nick Trigili has done gay for pay. If you go on Pornhub he’s wrestled around with skinny twinks. He’s been in the shower, he’s nutted all over the place. He’s also done some other soft porn guy s***.”  That’s a very interesting opinion to express in a video that is literally titled NICK TRIGILI: GAY 4 PAY BODYBUILDER HIRED BY GENERATION IRON….SAD!!!

The remaining four minutes of the video delve into Nick Trigili’s sexual life and habits. Goodrum says Trigili claims a man “paid him $30,000 dollars for oral sex,” then backtracks and says he refuses to share information that “can’t be verified.” What any of this has to do with Generation Iron is extremely unclear, but Goodrum continues to speculate on Trigili’s sexuality throughout the video.




Goodrum later pivots from being obsessed with outing Nick Trigili to criticizing sex work and porn as institutions. Again, Generation Iron is not mentioned.

“No person should ever do any sexual activities for money,” Vince Goodrum says. “Much less do it on video. That is just nasty. Ew, ew, ew.”

“Generation Iron is welcome to have him,” Vince Goodrum continues. “I certainly wouldn’t hire him for my company, ever.”

YouTube is no stranger to obscene and demeaning videos, though Goodrum’s is exceptional for his total lack of relevancy. Commenters seemed to notice this, too, frequently pointing out in the mentions under the video that it was not really anyone’s business what Nick Trigili does in his personal time. That Goodrum would imply that he should not be hired or welcomed in the community because of his sexuality or what he chooses to do in his personal time is a dangerous suggestion.

Goodrum does bring into focus a growing concern in the bodybuilding industry, one that has been motivated by money for decades. We’ve asked several prominent bodybuilders who have shared stories of selling old underwear, to doing muscle worshipping and even receiving offers for sex from males. There are also claims of many rich gay men sponsoring bodybuilding events and athletes.



It’s not a secret that homosexual men have paid for sex with bodybuilders. Muscle worshiping is prevalent amongst gay men, but it’s also widespread amongst the bodybuilding industry and those who find muscle and getting dominated by an individual arousing. Bodybuilders for years have used alternate means to supplement their bodybuilding careers which at times can be costly with the diminishing sponsorship opportunities and the lack of prize money at shows.




While researching for this piece, we spoke with many people under anonymity who were surprised to see how many knew of bodybuilders having gay for pay sex pages online with other men but insisting they were straight. One of the biggest hunting grounds for them has turned out to be dating apps and webcams. It’s no surprise that with a quick search on google, you are able to find several pages and links.

Goodrum is certainly living up to his name as the signature troll of the bodybuilding and fitness community, though he’s hardly the first. Gossip outlets circulate rumors and stir the pot as a way of driving up engagement and user-clicks without having to put in the effort to research, create, and edit a truly informative piece. There are many forums dedicated to bodybuilding gossip that have threads numbering in the hundreds of thousands; sadly, Vince Goodrum has yet to make it to that level, since his channel has less than 800 subscribers and falsely claimed Nick Trigili was employed by Generation Iron.

If Goodrum is out here striving to be the person in the bodybuilding industry who is most obsessed with other people’s business, he has certainly succeeded.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 12:31:43 PM
"If you could reason with a democrat, there wouldn’t be any democrats"!  :)

Dumbest group of kvnts in history.

Demturdz (http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/jerkit.gif)
   
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 01:17:48 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 24, 2021, 03:13:20 PM
Funk,

If you keep posting bodybuilding related content people will get the wrong idea about Getbig.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 24, 2021, 03:39:45 PM
Funk,

If you keep posting bodybuilding related content people will get the wrong idea about Getbig.
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2021, 05:02:27 PM
Do you and Coach ever get together for a cup of coffee or a protein drink, a chat about politics and a lot of patting one another on the back?  :)
We spend most of our time discussing your visits to gloryholes.
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Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 10:00:16 AM
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Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 10:02:41 AM
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Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
The Most Muscular Physique In America Contest

YOU were a lucky boy or girl if you were among the 3,000 spectators or participants that jam packed the Philadelphia Turners Hall, Broad St. and Columbia Avenue, Philadelphia last Saturday evening, May 4th, because it was there that we witnessed the greatest muscle show ever staged in this or any other country. In case you are not familiar, this contest was brought about chiefly because of a challenge by one Dan Lurie of Brooklyn issued to John Grimek of York, who won the Mr. America contest in Madison Square Garden May 25th, 1940, and who again won the same title of Mr. America in the Arena Philadelphia, May 26th, 1941, and who might have gone on winning this coveted title again had not the National Committee decided, after the 1941 event, that a man could win the title only once. That was the proper thing to do. The Mr. America contest is now an annual event held in connection with the National A.A.U. Senior Weight Lifting Championships. Just 10 years ago Grimek won the National A.A.U. Senior heavyweight weight lifting championship and 5 years ago this month he won the title of Mr. America, right in the same city where last Saturday night was staged the spectacular contest. Why, after all those years, would Grimek be called the most Muscular Man in America? Certainly we who know him can truthfully say that he never has claimed to be such, but there are thousands who say he is. When he entered the Mr. America Contest in the Garden in 1940, he was like every other contestant, he wanted to win, and win he did, the 10 famous judges chose him for the title. The same thing happened in Philly in 1941. I was invited and served as a judge for the weight lifting, not the Mr. America contest, in the memorable Seniors in the Garden in 1940 and the Arena in 1941, so I saw these contests first hand. They were wonderful meets, but we will have more of them, even bigger and better, because weight lifting is a real sport and a sport of real men. The Juniors in the Goodyear gym at Akron on Sunday, May 19th and the Seniors at the Cass Technical High School, Detroit, June 1st and 2nd are going to be big events with high class lifting, and worth going many miles to see.

And so, nearly five years after the 1941 Mr. America contest Grimek is challenged by Lurie to a contest. Letters and words, some of them rather harsh, went back and forth, printed in the S. & H. and other magazines. Nobody got hurt, unless their feelings were, and many of you who read this article probably read the challenge and reply and formed your own opinion, and those who take their weight lifting and body building real seriously were all "het up" about it. I know the Pittsburgh boys were, because both Grimek and Lurie appeared on the posing platform for an exhibition after the 1945 Junior Nationals, which I had the pleasure of promoting and directing here in Pittsburgh last May 5th, 1945. That audience had a good chance to see both of these athletes give an exhibition on the same platform only about 10 minutes apart. I could tell you which one of the two that our audience thought was the better, but it wouldn't be ethical. I was only a director, not a judge. We all appreciated their coming to Pittsburgh, also the hundreds of other visitors who came for our shows. So this fellow Frank Percival, the Secretary Treasurer of the Middle Atlantic Association A.A.U. and who is also the Managing Director of the Philadelphia Turners got busy and arranged the contest, not just for these two men, but a real open contest, open to any qualified A.A.U. athlete, and it caught on like wildfire. It was no easy job for Percival and his Committee. Later I will give you the details, but first I must state that the contest committee selected five well known and famous former strong men and weight lifting champions for the judges. All 5 were well known for their prowess and integrity and 5 of the finest men I ever met. I was asked to serve as the official to summarize the points awarded by the judges for each height class, which wasn't too hard to do, and I therefore worked with them throughout the contest. I had never met them before, but heard a lot of them many times. They were impartial, fair and square in their judging, and awarded the points on the merits of the contestants. Well, who do you think was the ultimate winner of the title? There were 14 of us from Pittsburgh, most of us stayed Saturday night at the Central Y in rooms that I had reserved .two weeks before, so early Sunday morning we got the Sunday Philadelphia papers and turning to the Sports page of the Philadelphia Record, there were these large" headlines "GRIMEK GRABS MUSCLE TITLE AS 2,000 GASP." The article was very interesting as it went on to say "Sinatra lost his swoon title last night. To the accompaniment of thunderous applause and deeply appreciative feminine sighs, John Grimek's 200 pound mass of muscles won him the title of 'America's Most Muscular Physique.' Grimek, Mr. America of 1940 and 1941 received the judges' nod over 26 other famous muscle men in the Middle Atlantic A. A. U. sanctioned contest at the Turners, Broad and Columbia. The 2,000 spectators (there were 3,000 according to .the officer at the door) cheered a muscle ripple much louder than a Shibe Park crowd does a home run and saw more than the advertised poses per man." The article then went on to say that "Dan Lurie of Brooklyn, the Challenger, who was seated in the audience leaped to the stage to explain why he wasn't competing against Grimek." He asked Bob Hoffman, who was acting as Master of Ceremonies if he could use the "Mike" which Bob turned over to him, and his first words were "I ain't gonna pose unless i got fair officials" which must have been quite a compliment to the 5 judges. Then on second thought he said "I don't mean nothing against those men sitting down there." He then went on to say that the meet wasn't properly sanctioned by the A. A. U. and that Mr. Wortmann didn't know anything about it. It so happened that Mr.. Wortmann did know about it, but it was not a weight lifting contest and Wortmann probably was not concerned. The irate Frank Percival then came to the microphone and told the audience that the contest was sanctioned by the A. A. U. and explained that he was the Secretary of the M. A. District for over 20 years, and that all the contests in his district were run according to the rules of the A. A. U. I know this to be a fact as he wrote me to be sure to furnish Travel Permits for the 4 Pittsburgh boys which I had entered in the Contest. This I did and each boy had his A. A. U. current card. I happen to be the Chairman of the Allegheny Mountain Association A. A. U. Weight Lifting Committee and Vice Chairman of the National A. A. U. Weight Lifting Committee as well as Athletic Commissioner of the Downtown Y.M.C.A., Pittsburgh, and we too try to run our contests according to the rules so that no one can complain about that. I have before me one of the official entry blanks which Frank Percival sent to me weeks before and here is the exact wording at the top.

OFFICIAL ENTRY BLANK FOR THE MOST MUSCULAR PHYSIQUE IN AMERICA CONTEST
Sanctioned by the Middle Atlantic A. A. U. Association
Place: - Philadelphia Turners Hall.
Address: - Broad St. at Columbia Avenue, Philadelphia.
Date: - May 4th, 1946.
Time: - 8 P.M.

Then a space was provided for each contestant to fill in his A. A. U. Registration number. That should settle the question as to whether the meet was or was not sanctioned.

It would take a book to tell all about the great show last Saturday night, but these are the highlights as I saw them sitting in the front row working with the 5 judges. My friend Ray Van Cleef asked me if I would write an article about it. Was glad to oblige Ray and here it is. I am the happiest man in Pittsburgh today because my son, a Corporal in the U. S. Marines, just returned this afternoon to Pittsburgh from Sasebo, Japan, after 3 years in the Marine Service. He took part in the invasion of Japan, then his outfit was sent to Nagasaki, where the second atomic bomb did a neat job, and the Marines were living in the headquarters at Sasebo, a few miles north, the former Japanese Naval and submarine Base. He is in great shape. And a few months ago my daughter's husband, who was a Lt. Commander in the Navy, and whose ship was in the famous Battle of Bougainville, returned also from the Pacific and has resumed' his practice in Harrisburg. Incidentally he and my daughter are both graduates, he a dentist and she a dietician of Temple University, only a few blocks from where the contest was held last Saturday night, so that is familiar territory to me, as I passed .the Turners many times a few years back, while the daughter was attending college. While her husband was in the Pacific she worked with the Consolidated Aircraft Corp. in San Diego helping build B-29 Bombers, which did quite a job on Tokyo and other points. But that is getting off the subject, so back to the show and what a show it was.

The eagerly awaited America's Most Muscular Physique contest proved to be an exciting and outstanding event. Probably no other contest of this nature aroused such widespread interest. The Philadelphia newspapers became aware of the ardent interest attached to this competition and they responded by devoting some publicity to this event. One press notice appropriately referred to the contest as "The Battle of the Bulges." As to be expected, the large main auditorium of the Philadelphia Turners' Hall was crammed with enthusiastic spectators. The audience totaled fully three thousand. A considerable number traveled hundreds of miles to witness this memorable tournament. One zealous fan made a trip from South America in order to witness this contest. The spectators included many prominent personalities in weight lifting and physical culture circles, such as Bill and Walter Good, Mark Berry, Dr. Jesse M. Gehman, Dave Mayor, John Terlazzo, Bob Jones, and John Fritshe.

The show started promptly on schedule and the auditorium was already filled to the brim. The vast majority of the spectators were "early birds."' Many was present several hours in advance of the starting time. Some arrived as early as noon hour.

Bob Hoffman serving as master of ceremonies opened the show with a fitting introduction of the 5 officiating judges. His introduction concisely covered the highlights in the careers of each judge. Never has a contest been honored with a more famous or better qualified group of officials. Each and every one of the judges has attained enduring fame in weight lifting and physical culture circles. They were 1. Harry Hall of Glendora, New Jersey, attained fame as a middleweight lifting champion. Took part in a number of contests 20 or more years ago and succeeded in winning championships and establishing records. 2. Canada was represented by her most famous physical culture instructor, Bill Oliphant. The Oliphant Physical Culture Institute in Toronto has for years contributed much to the advancement of weight lifting and body building under Bill Oliphant's expert direction. 3. Ottley Coulter of Lemont, Penna. was another of the distinguished judges. Besides being a champion professional strongman athlete Coulter is one of the most capable authorities on subjects related to body building and weight lifting. 4. Charles MacMahon of Camden, New Jersey was member of the noted officials. He attained fame as an all around strongman athlete and contributed many educational articles dealing with health and exercise to physical culture publications. 5. The winner of the Strongest Man In America title in 1922, Antony Matysek of Baltimore was another member of the five famous judges. Like his fellow judges, Matysek is a prominent and well qualified authority on all phases of physical culture. Just having the opportunity to see these famous veteran athletes provided the audience with a rare treat which they appreciated.

The first number on the program was a posing and muscle control display given by that world famous strength athlete, Siegmund Klein. Klein's exceptional physique combined with his professional finesse in posing held the spectators spellbound with admiration. Though a great many had witnessed Klein's superb posing act on different occasions in the past it was evident by the reaction of the audience that Klein's exhibition has perennial appeal.

Following Klein's act the contestants in Class A competed. This group consisted of athletes whose height did not exceed 5 feet 3 3/4 inches. Out of a possible maximum total of 50 points Richard Bachtell, representing the York Bar Bell Club, was the winner with a total of 48 points. Joseph Thaler of Brooklyn was second with 37 points and William Goldberg of New York City was third with 30 points. Each contestant in this group, as well as in the other groups, assumed three different poses presenting their physique from different angles so that the judges were enabled to properly examine and evaluate the merits of each contestant.

A novel variety act was presented by Siegmund Klein in the form of a barbell juggling routine. Klein again demonstrated his showmanship and versatile ability. A number of difficult stunts were included in this exhibition and all were accomplished with ease. The act was terminated with an unexpected bit of humor. Klein at the conclusion of his act placed the bar bell on the floor and proceeded to walk off the stage into the wing. As he did the barbell commenced to roll forward on the sloping floor and came to an abrupt halt when it struck the footlights and smashed several of the electric bulbs. The noise and sensation of expecting to see the barbell roll of the stage caused some of the members of the fair sex present to release shrill shrieks. About 20% of the audience were ladies, and they "let down their hair".

At the beginning of the program Bob Hoffman announced that Dan Lurie was invited to participate in this contest. Being aware that Lurie was present in the front portion of the reserved section as a spectator Bob Hoffman urged him to compete in this tournament. Before Class B, which would have been the group Lurie belonged in as a contestant, was judged Bob Hoffman mentioned that Lurie would have been granted what is usually considered the most favorable appearance in a competition of this nature; the opportunity to be the last man to pose in the group. Despite the fact that Lurie is a professional he could have been judged in this contest by allowing a sufficient period of time to elapse between his appearance and that of the amateur contestants. Lurie and the rest of the audience were informed of this by Bob Hoffman. Though it was possible for Lurie to compete in this outstanding physique contest and even though he was publicly urged to participate he refused to compete against the extraordinary physical specimens that were participating in this contest.

Class B, which consisted of athletes whose height ranged from 5 feet 4 inches to 5 feet 6 1/2 inches, was won by Sam Loprinzi of Portland, Oregon. Loprinzi was granted a nearly 100% rating by the judges for his total number of points was 49. The audience instantly recognized that Sam Loprinzi possesses one of the finest physiques in the world and a wonderful personality. Photos do not overrate or flatter his truly magnificent physique. Dan Bax, my husky little friend of Niagara Falls, New York was second in this class with a total of 40 points. George Waselinko of Dupont, Pa. was third with 39 points. The rating of the other contestants in this group is as follows:

Elmer Ward of Philadelphia, 37 points; Joseph Nadzier of Marlton, New Jersey, 30 points; Walter Johnson of Chester, Pa., 26 points and Anthony Gobeo of Middletown, New York received 25 points.

The audience was entertained following the judging of the contestants in Class B with a first rate professional hand and head balancing act by Lou Karnes. This performer performed a number of exceptional feats, including some contortion stunts, which the spectators appreciated. The final stunt was a thrilling one. Consisted of doing a free head balance and revolving while maintaining this balance on top of a special perch mounted on his balancing table prop.

One of the contestants, Elmer Ward of Philadelphia, gave Frank Sinatra a bit of competition by rendering a couple of popular selections. Next time, Elmer, bring your own orchestra.

Kimon Voyages of New York City won the Class C division, which was restricted to those whose height ranged from 5 feet 6 3/4 inches to 5 feet 8 1/4 inches, when he received a total of 48 points. Voyages' herculean physique was most impressive. Jules Bacon, representing the York Bar Bell Club, was a close second for the points awarded to him totaled 47. George Lapausky, the speed skating superman, a member of the York Bar Bell Club, placed third with 36 points. The rating of the other contestants in this group is as follows:

Donald Ray of Pittsburgh, 34 points; Russell Green of Wilmington, Del. 30 points and John Stewart of Pittsburgh received 23 points.

A youthful amateur equilibrist, Morris Moritz from new York City, then provided a remarkable exhibition of contortion, hand balancing and tumbling. Morris Moritz is one of the very few hand balancers capable of duplicating Prof. Paulinetti's astounding one hand stand plange balance. He included this extremely difficult stunt in his routine. That after noon in testing the lighting effects on the posing platform Morris Moritz, who is a member of the East Side Bar Bell Club, maintained this one arm plange balance on several occasions for ten or more seconds.

Brenda and Barry, a professional act from Philadelphia, presented their first rate balancing act. A number of difficult stunts were performed with professional finesse. At the conclusion of their routine the understander of this husband and wife team performed a number of balancing feats with his son, David. The stunts accomplished duplicated some of the ones that were previously performed with the boy's mother. Though the stunts were difficult and in some cases hazardous the youthful topmounter, who was only about four years old, performed them with the confidence and ease of a veteran trouper. needless to say, this act was accorded generous applause.

There was particularly keen interest in Class D, chiefly because John Grimek of the York Bar Bell Club was one of the contestants in this division. This group included those whose height varied from 5 feet 8 1/2 inches to 5 feet 10 inches. Grimek was awe inspiring in his impressive posing display. He received a nearly perfect score for his rating was 49 points in winning in this class. Joe Shaw of Toronto, Canada placed second with 35 points. This Canadian athlete represented the Oliphant Academy of Physical Culture. Joseph Masyle of Pittsburgh, co-holder of the title "Mr. Allegheny", was third with a total of 31 points.

At the conclusion of the judging of this Class D group it was announced to the audience that Siegmund Klein was willing to compete with Dan Lurie in a most muscular physique contest. The fact that Klein is also a professional eliminated Lurie from employing the same alibi that he resorted to in evading an active role as a contestant in Ameirca's Most Muscular Physique contest that was taking place. Klein's challenge put Lurie on the spot and many of the spectators began to clamor for action by demanding in no uncertain terms that Lurie should participate in the proposed contest. After enduring a barrage of uncomplimentary comments expressed in a boisterous manner by some of the rabid spectators for a brief duration Lurie came forth. he came up on the stage and proceeded to address the audience. When Bob Hoffman asked the audience whether they wished to hear Lurie talk or see him pose the response from the spectators, of course, strongly indicated that they wished to witness Lurie in action. But Lurie persisted in continuing his vocal outcry. During the course of his rather heated talk, which was amplified by the microphone, he made disparaging remarks about the judges and made several false statements, such as claiming that the America's Most Muscular Physique contest was not sanctioned by the A.A.U. This was not true and was a short while later refuted by Frank N. Percival, for many years Secretary-Treasurer of the Middle-Atlantic Association of the A.A.U., when he made a brief impromptu talk to the spectators to correct this false statement that Lurie issued. This contest was, of course, legitimate and was sanctioned by the Middle-Atlantic Association of the A.A.U. The unscheduled talks terminated with the 49 year old Bill Oliphant of Toronto, Canada, one of the judges, expressing some statements concerning the genuineness of this contest.

After this verbal clash which had the audience in an uproar came to a halt, the regular program continued and Lurie retired to one of the dressing rooms back stage. George Shandor and John Jurgielwicz provided the audience with a heavy poundage demonstration of the three Olympic lifts. Some creditable lifts were performed by these two members of the York Bar Bell team. Incidentally, George Shandor recently won the heavyweight title in the Senior Middle Atlantic Championships. At the Juniors in Pittsburgh last May 5th he snatched 250 and cleaned and jerked 320 but missed his 3 attempts in the Press.

The judging of the final class E group followed this brief lifting demonstration. This group consisted of athletes who were 5 feet 10 1/4 inches in height or taller. In this unlimited tall men's division the "Mr. America" of 1944, Steve Stanko of the York Bar Bell club, was the winner with a total of 49 points. Joe Lauriano, Junior "Mr. America" of 1945, representing the York Bar Bell team placed second with 46 points. Marshall Grenuick of Montreal, Canada came in third with a total of 42 points. The rating of the other contestants in this group is as follows:

Constantine Kosiras of Philadelphia, 36 points; Fred Harmening of Pittsburgh, the other co-holder of the title "Mr. Allegheny", 30 points; Henry Struczewski of Camden, New Jersey also received 30 points and Leonard Heinz of Chicago received 29 points.

Bill Oliphant served in a double capacity, for besides judging he furnished the audience with an impromptu demonstration which was highly entertaining. Showed a novel "cure" for a headache by pounding the seat of a sturdy wooden chair against the top of his head so vigorously that the thumps were heard throughout the auditorium. He also did some advanced contortion feats to show how supple he is. Oliphant is amazing for his years.









Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 11:02:13 AM
During the course of the judging of class E, Dan Lurie was persuaded to compete against Siegmund Klein and Walter Podolak in a professional contest that would be judged on the same basis as the America's Most Muscular Physique contest for the amateur athletes and the same expert and unbiased officials would serve as the judges. During the course of the judging among these three professional athletes each one had the opportunity to pose alone on the platform. Then they posed together as a group. This posing display provided the judges with a more than adequate opportunity to carefully evaluate the physique merits of these three professional athletes. Siegmund Klein was the winner by a comfortable margin for he received 48 points and Dan Lurie's total number of points was 43. Walter Podolak was a close third with 41 points. Podolak deserves much credit for the magnanimous sportsmanship he displayed by participating in this contest. He volunteered to take part just to make it a more complete contest. Though he had not trained for any such event he was in excellent condition for an athlete who had been inactive form professional competition as a wrestler for a considerable period. He was one of the few to defeat Jim Londos in a wrestling contest. Podolak when he was active as a weight lifter was a record holder and ranked as one of the nation's strongest men. Siegmund Klein being a fine sportsman accepted his victory in a gracious manner. Klein is indeed a credit to the "iron game" for he continues year after year to be one of the most prominent and most active athletes in this field. Lurie whom Klein defeated was perhaps in diapers when Klein had already attained fame as a weight lifter and body builder. Despite the fact that he is considerable older than Luire, Klein proved to the well qualified judges that his musculature is superior to Lurie's even though Lurie allows himself to be exploited as America's Most Muscular Man on the basis of claims which have long since expired. In this contest he was a second rater, or as the racing boys say, "he also ran".

Lou Karnes again entertained the audience. This extraordinary equilibrist, who trains at Herrmann's Gym in Philadelphia, first did a handstand and then picked up a cumbersome dumbell weighing 53 pounds with one hand so that he was maintaining a one hand stand balance while holding the dumbell off the floor with the other hand. He performed this same feat with a 64 pound dumbell and concluded this novel strength and balancing display by lifting a 78 pound dumbell in the same manner.

Following this professional contest came the event that the spectators were eagerly awaiting; the selection of the grand winner of the America's Most Muscular Physique title. Each one of the five class winners appeared individually on the posing platform. Then all of the winners were grouped together so that they could be compared in relation to each other. A number of minutes elapsed while the judges were carefully analyzing the merits of these group winners. The audience was tense while the judges were preparing to express their final judgment. At last the decision was released. John Grimek, the only athlete to twice win the "Mr. America" title, was the grand prize winner with a total of 48 points. The decision was greeted with spontaneous applause by the capacity audience. Steve Stanko placed second with 46 points and Sam Loprinzi was third with 41 points. Fourth place was won by Kimon Voyages with 40 points and Richard Bachtell was fifth with 38 points.

Following the selection of the grand prize winner the trophies were presented to all of the winners. Just before the prizes were awarded John Grimek made a brief impromptu talk to the audience to inform them that while he was grateful to have won he only participated in this contest because circumstances warranted his taking part. Then he revealed that he had no desire to acquire this title and did not wish to retain the trophy he won. Wanted to donate the trophi3es to the second place winners. Made it evident that he was not seeking any personal glory by taking part in this contest. The audience wanted Grimek to put on his famous muscle control act, but he asked to be excused. Being a new papa he no doubt had his mind on his family and home.

Next month our Pittsburgh Billy Conn boxes Joe Louis for the heavyweight boxy title, in New York, and may the better man win. One of our boys suggested that Lurie challenge the winner as he did a lot fo shadow boxing at the show last Saturday. He would stand just as much chance with Conn or Louis in a boxing bout as he would in a best physique contest with Grimek. Anyhow thanks, "Danny Boy," for helping put on a good show.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 25, 2021, 11:16:52 AM
Bowie:

There's a strawman, waiting there nearby
He'd like to come and meet men
But he thinks he'd blow our loads
There's a strawman, waiting there nearby
He's told us he would blow us
'Cause he knows he's not worthwhile
He told me
Let the children near Joe
Let the children near Joe
Let all the children near Joe
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 11:36:01 AM
     
&t=56s   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 25, 2021, 12:34:24 PM
He’s right again...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/25/establishment-media-begins-backtracking-coronavirus-origin-questioning-trump-right/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 12:42:39 PM
      Venice beach coming back to life.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 25, 2021, 12:44:21 PM
Everything libturdz do, touch, promote, etc is a lie, fake-news, retard-clown world, backwards propaganda.
They haven't been right about one thing yet.

Libturdz (http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)

Violent felons become hero's, real hero military are treated like scum, violent rioters are given peace prizes,
girls become boys, boys become girls, Joe and Hunter touch kids, BLM dictate laws, Prisoners are released, good folks are prosecuted (could go on for days, but you get the picture).

Cmon maaaannn????

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmma-user-upload.mixedmartialarts.com%2F2019-12%2Fcropped5809117039968079617.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 25, 2021, 12:47:39 PM
He’s right again...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/25/establishment-media-begins-backtracking-coronavirus-origin-questioning-trump-right/

You should see the idiots near me all masked up looking like twinks and obamas.  OUTSIDE! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 25, 2021, 12:48:33 PM
He’s right again...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/25/establishment-media-begins-backtracking-coronavirus-origin-questioning-trump-right/

Fauci basically admits guilt back in 2017 that is coming.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2021, 01:09:28 PM
We spend most of our time discussing your visits to gloryholes.

Didn't know you had an interest in anonymous sex and what I do or don't do. :o  Homo much?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 25, 2021, 03:10:21 PM
Fauci basically admits guilt back in 2017 that is coming.



Fucker has been lying all along
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 25, 2021, 03:40:04 PM
Fauci basically admits guilt back in 2017 that is coming.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 25, 2021, 03:48:49 PM
Weekend over - Is the dump cleared out ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 25, 2021, 05:27:02 PM
Straw isn't the dumbest kunt on the planet but he'd better  hope she doesn't die.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 25, 2021, 06:03:26 PM
Didn't know you had an interest in anonymous sex and what I do or don't do. :o  Homo much?
Slightly homo, you jealous?

PS: Poll has gotten closer :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 25, 2021, 08:48:06 PM
Slightly homo, you jealous?

PS: Poll has gotten closer :D

But not as close as the 2020 election
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 26, 2021, 11:28:01 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 26, 2021, 12:09:17 PM
     
     
&t=17s     
      PICK YOUR FAVORITE.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on May 26, 2021, 12:15:52 PM
But not as close as the 2020 election

Were some of the Strawmen votes mailed in?  lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 26, 2021, 12:51:29 PM
Funk dreams of having a thread about him so he's taken to spamming Strawflake's swan song.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 26, 2021, 01:05:48 PM
Funk dreams of having a thread about him so he's taken to spamming Strawflake's swan song.
   
                           not really, some other jackass started a thread saying all us libtards are the same poster and should be banned, this thread is just another one of those , this guy makes me cry and doesn't agree with me so he should go thread. take notice I  or none of those other guys ever said anyone should be banned. live and let live is my motto. just because you don't agree with me is none of my concern.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 26, 2021, 01:06:09 PM
Funk dreams of having a thread about him so he's taken to spamming Strawflake's swan song.

swan song?

this thread is stupid

It's just a whiny little bitch who apparently hasn't realized that he can just ignore my posts just like I ignore his posts

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 26, 2021, 01:11:38 PM
   
                           not really, some other jackass started a thread saying all us libtards are the same poster and should be banned, this thread is just another one of those , this guy makes me cry and doesn't agree with me so he should go thread. take notice I  or none of those other guys ever said anyone should be banned. live and let live is my motto. just because you don't agree with me is none of my concern.

actually the phony "coach" started this thread by saying "Lies about everything politics and gets caught"

I told the phony "coach" to point out my so called lies and he couldn't do it

My "lies" of course have been saying things like "Biden won the election" or "MLB pulls All-Star Game from Atlanta in protest of restrictive new voting law"

those are both FACTS but because the phony "coach" can't deal with reality his broken brain thinks they are lies

I can't help it that the phony "coach" is quite literally delusional and a fucking moron

I'm pretty sure I pointed this out about 63 pages back
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 26, 2021, 01:13:03 PM


this thread is stupid





It's a thread about you...so...okay I guess if you say so?  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 26, 2021, 01:14:50 PM
Its Wednesday - has the heap of trash in the yard been cleared out yet so the neighbors don't have to look at the eyesore daily?  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 26, 2021, 01:15:56 PM
Its Wednesday - has the heap of trash in the yard been cleared out yet so the neighbors don't have to look at the eyesore daily?  :D


A gofundme perhaps?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2021, 01:53:03 PM
Slightly homo, you jealous?

PS: Poll has gotten closer :D

Jealous? Jealous of what may I ask?

Thanks for the info on the pole. It is Straw's pole. There isn't much I can do about how it goes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 26, 2021, 01:53:57 PM


It's a thread about you...so...okay I guess if you say so?  :D

FTW ^!  Well done, sir!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 26, 2021, 01:56:27 PM
The subject of this thread makes me ax de quextion, if I be a democrap do dat mean I can votes as much as I wants to?

Straw Manlette, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2021, 02:09:17 PM
Fucker has been lying all along

Here's one for you.  ;)

Apparently, so has the CDC or at least they have trouble keeping their facts straight, according to an article I read today about the information they've put out regarding the wearing of masks in public. One person from the CDC said there was only about a 10% chance of contracting COVID in most outdoor settings. Later another representative countered by saying that was based on a flawed study. According to them, the likelihood of catching the virus outdoors was 0.10%. Huge difference, huh? It is no wonder the public is confused when it comes to COVID stats.

I knew there was a reason I didn't and still don't wear a mask outdoors....I do stand a little further back when speaking with someone though....maybe three feet, but not six feet.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 26, 2021, 02:50:15 PM


It's a thread about you...so...okay I guess if you say so?  :D

wrong dipshit

It's a thread started by a whining little bitch who wants me to be banned because he can't deal with reality

Also ironic that Trumptards constantly whine about "cancel culture" and this loser wants me cancelled because I post easily verifiable facts that he can't deal with

that's the "stupid" part and apparently you were too stupid to figure that out
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 26, 2021, 02:52:17 PM
wrong dipshit

It's a thread started by a whining little bitch who wants me to be banned because he can't deal with reality

Also ironic that Trumptards constantly whine about "cancel culture" and this loser wants me cancelled because I post easily verifiable facts that he can't deal with


Eat shit pussy boy. Don't you have some crappy music to play? lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 26, 2021, 02:54:53 PM

Eat shit pussy boy. Don't you have some crappy music to play? lol

I have no idea what you're talking about

also
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 26, 2021, 05:46:54 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about


He thinks your Rob-240 (bass guitar).
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 26, 2021, 06:04:40 PM
swan song?

this thread is stupid

It's just a whiny little bitch who apparently hasn't realized that he can just ignore my posts just like I ignore his posts
Why are you such a liar? Coach and Trump are roommates in that empty space above your shoulders.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 26, 2021, 06:38:56 PM
Why are you such a liar? Coach and Trump are roommates in that empty space above your shoulders.

LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2021, 06:39:54 PM
Why are you such a liar? Coach and Trump are roommates in that empty space above your shoulders.

Now that is really mean Chaos.

There is not enough room left for Coach when Trump has already bought, developed and pretending to profit from the empty space in anyone's head regardless whether it's by invitation or not. Careful all you folks with Trump occupying your head....eventually he will go bankrupt and you'll be left holding the bag.

If Trump were to accidentally trip and fall when he and Coach were out golfing at Bedminster, landing on his butt on Coaches head, Coaches head would be so far up Trump's butt, he could poke a hole in Trump's belly button to call for help.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 26, 2021, 06:49:30 PM
wrong dipshit

It's a thread started by a whining little bitch who wants me to be banned because he can't deal with reality

Also ironic that Trumptards constantly whine about "cancel culture" and this loser wants me cancelled because I post easily verifiable facts that he can't deal with

that's the "stupid" part and apparently you were too stupid to figure that out



70 page meltdown.

Defending Biden will be your white whale.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 26, 2021, 06:51:59 PM


70 page meltdown.

Defending Biden will be your white whale.

Ummm...I think I'd better translate that comparison elsewise Straw won't unnerstan...

Privileged Whale.

 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 26, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
Now that is really mean Chaos.

There is not enough room left for Coach when Trump has already bought, developed and pretending to profit from the empty space in anyone's head regardless whether it's by invitation or not. Careful all you folks with Trump occupying your head....eventually he will go bankrupt and you'll be left holding the bag.

If Trump were to accidentally trip and fall when he and Coach were out golfing at Bedminster, landing on his butt on Coaches head, Coaches head would be so far up Trump's butt, he could poke a hole in Trump's belly button to call for help.
Check your meds, wtf?
Can someone post the old man getting the door closed on him gif ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 26, 2021, 07:00:51 PM
Check your meds, wtf?
Can someone post the old man getting the door closed on him gif ???


An alternate.


(https://media.tenor.com/images/1b3c995582fb218f6555bf838a9d77fc/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 26, 2021, 07:12:06 PM
Now that is really mean Chaos.

There is not enough room left for Coach when Trump has already bought, developed and pretending to profit from the empty space in anyone's head regardless whether it's by invitation or not. Careful all you folks with Trump occupying your head....eventually he will go bankrupt and you'll be left holding the bag.

If Trump were to accidentally trip and fall when he and Coach were out golfing at Bedminster, landing on his butt on Coaches head, Coaches head would be so far up Trump's butt, he could poke a hole in Trump's belly button to call for help.

President Trump does not "occupy" the minds of Conservatives but rather he is in their hearts.  They love him because he loves our Nation and her citizens.  YOU voted for an apparent mindless pedophile who "cares" more about shitizens and has ties to the ChiComs and worse.

FYYFF

Post Script - Yes.  It is called "writing".  Typist.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 26, 2021, 07:29:26 PM
Check your meds, wtf?
Can someone post the old man getting the door closed on him gif ???

7 other people live with him  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 27, 2021, 03:45:51 AM
That time of the week again, Straw.

Grass waits for no man.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBv8bcQc4gcgAWA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 27, 2021, 09:35:13 AM
     
     
&t=17s     
      PICK YOUR FAVORITE.
                       
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 27, 2021, 10:00:08 AM
That time of the week again, Straw.

Grass waits for no man.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBv8bcQc4gcgAWA/giphy.gif)

I have little faith that the toxic waste dump will be cleared up this weekend.   The neighbors must be furious. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on May 27, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
Why are you such a liar? Coach and Trump are roommates in that empty space above your shoulders.

I OWN the phony coach's mind along with yours and a few other idiots on this board

proof = this thread

It's pretty obvious that the phony "coach", you and a crippled mental patient spend time thinking about me and have an emotional investment in hating me

Why?

I have no fucking idea

Remember the phony "coach" whining that I don't pay enough attention to him or respond to his posts

I never think about you idiots nor do I go looking for your posts

I look at shit on this site at random and don't give a rats ass about anyone here

get a life loser
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2021, 12:04:25 PM
President Trump does not "occupy" the minds of Conservatives but rather he is in their hearts.  They love him because he loves our Nation and her citizens.  YOU voted for an apparent mindless pedophile who "cares" more about shitizens and has ties to the ChiComs and worse.

FYYFF

Post Script - Yes.  It is called "writing".  Typist.

Trump is in their wallets, they think he's in their hearts.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
7 other people live with him  :-\ :-\ :-\

Everyday, a Getbigger adds another person to the number of folks who live with me. You must think my house is enormous. At least I am not living alone and locked in my mom's basement like a lot of you trolls are.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 27, 2021, 12:19:42 PM
Everyday, a Getbigger adds another person to the number of folks who live with me. You must think my house is enormous. At least I am not living alone and locked in my mom's basement like a lot of you trolls are.

Bravo!!  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: residue on May 27, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
Why are you such a liar? Coach and Trump are roommates in that empty space above your shoulders.
Coach has never been above anyone shoulders
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 27, 2021, 01:06:39 PM
Coach has never been above anyone shoulders
   
    ho ho ho i see what you did there.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 27, 2021, 02:55:45 PM
Everyday, a Getbigger adds another person to the number of folks who live with me. You must think my house is enormous. At least I am not living alone and locked in my mom's basement like a lot of you trolls are.

 :'( :'( :'( no basements in my village  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
:'( :'( :'( no basements in my village  :'( :'( :'(

How about attics or closets?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 27, 2021, 06:05:46 PM
I OWN the phony coach's mind along with yours and a few other idiots on this board

proof = this thread

It's pretty obvious that the phony "coach", you and a crippled mental patient spend time thinking about me and have an emotional investment in hating me

Why?

I have no fucking idea

Remember the phony "coach" whining that I don't pay enough attention to him or respond to his posts

I never think about you idiots nor do I go looking for your posts

I look at shit on this site at random and don't give a rats ass about anyone here

get a life loser
Your entire post is lies. You're a pathetic excuse of a man*

*(they, them, it?)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 27, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
Coach has never been above anyone shoulders

funk41 lives on 2 wheels, ask him  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2021, 06:58:02 PM
Coach has never been above anyone shoulders

When all else fails. That’s okay, my date from the last years White House Christmas party asked for a second date for 2022...I’m not quite as tall but still above her shoulders 🤷‍♂️

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2021, 07:05:13 PM
When all else fails. That’s okay, my date from the last years White House Christmas party asked for a second date for 2022...I’m not quite as tall but still above her shoulders 🤷‍♂️

Does your wife let you date other women?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2021, 07:10:45 PM
Does your wife let you date other women?

Of course not. She knows it’s purely professional. She’s a tenant of my cousin in DC
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 27, 2021, 07:24:28 PM
When all else fails. That’s okay, my date from the last years White House Christmas party asked for a second date for 2022...I’m not quite as tall but still above her shoulders 🤷‍♂️

She's actually taller than you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2021, 08:02:51 PM
She's actually taller than you.

Mmm, said that
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 27, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Mmm, said that

*sarcasm
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 27, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
How about attics or closets?



Plenty of closets in Portlandia.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 27, 2021, 10:48:47 PM
When all else fails. That’s okay, my date from the last years White House Christmas party asked for a second date for 2022...I’m not quite as tall but still above her shoulders 🤷‍♂️

How did her titties look in person?  I would have jacked off at least twice during the course of the evening. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 28, 2021, 04:14:31 AM
How did her titties look in person?  I would have jacked off at least twice during the course of the evening.

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 28, 2021, 04:33:03 AM
3 Day Weekend is here - plenty of time to clean up the pig sty
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 28, 2021, 12:35:23 PM
funk41 lives on 2 wheels, ask him  ;)
             
     
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2021, 12:40:28 PM
Of course not. She knows it’s purely professional. She’s a tenant of my cousin in DC

Hope you know I was kidding you. -Probably should have included a LOL or grinning emogi. Anyway all dates aren't romantic in nature. My sister-in-law and I (pre-COVID) had the occasional lunch date. She's happily married. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2021, 12:42:33 PM


Plenty of closets in Portlandia.  ;D

Probably about the same number of closets as anywhere else.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2021, 12:44:15 PM
How did her titties look in person?  I would have jacked off at least twice during the course of the evening.

That activity is most likely highly discouraged in the White House.... ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 28, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
Coach,

Demi Lovato just came out as non-binary.

Next years date may be off.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2021, 01:42:00 PM
Coach,

Demi Lovato just came out as non-binary.

Next years date may be off.

lol...that’s not her.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2021, 02:39:37 PM
lol...that’s not her.

Right. You have to admit on quick glance there's a resemblance.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 28, 2021, 03:19:13 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 28, 2021, 03:27:28 PM
Almost 70 pages.  No excuses if the trash heap is not cleared out this weekend.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on May 28, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
Almost 70 pages.  No excuses if the trash heap is not cleared out this weekend.

Clearing a landfill takes time.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 28, 2021, 04:39:37 PM
Almost 70 pages.  No excuses if the trash heap is not cleared out this weekend.
Can't clean the trash pile when Trump is all you see every time you open your eyes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2021, 07:43:36 PM
Can't clean the trash pile when Trump is all you see every time you open your eyes.

I know, right? Trump is at the top of the trash heap. This seems like a dubious position to be in....just saying.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2021, 09:47:13 PM
I know, right? Trump is at the top of the trash heap. This seems like a dubious position to be in....just saying.

And you still can’t tell us why....even though he’s still the most powerful person in the country
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on May 28, 2021, 09:56:33 PM
And you still can’t tell us why....even though he’s still the most powerful person in the country

I'm back to wearing my mask to bed at night.  I've been having recurring nightmares about Trump grabbing my pussy.  So far it's working. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2021, 10:04:37 PM
I'm back to wearing my mask to bed at night.  I've been having recurring nightmares about Trump grabbing my pussy.  So far it's working.

lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 29, 2021, 05:31:39 AM
I wonder what would have happened if they had hung mike pence, who himself is getting ready for a run for president  in 2024.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 29, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 29, 2021, 12:09:41 PM
I know, right? Trump is at the top of the trash heap. This seems like a dubious position to be in....just saying.
I don't think you're in any position to be calling anyone else trash. :-\

I'm back to wearing my mask to bed at night.  I've been having recurring nightmares about Trump grabbing my pussy.  So far it's working. 
You still using the undies SF1900 sent you for a mask?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2021, 12:27:05 PM
I don't think you're in any position to be calling anyone else trash. :-\


You got part of that right.....you don't think.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 29, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
You got part of that right.....you don't think.
I need to stay at your level to understand you. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 29, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
I need to stay at your level to understand you. :)



Around 30" according to this..  ;D



http://gloryholeguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3008
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
I need to stay at your level to understand you. :)

LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2021, 03:55:06 PM
::) ::) ::) ::)

It’s amazing how you think those two are even remotely the same
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 29, 2021, 04:09:09 PM
I don't think you're in any position to be calling anyone else trash. :-\
You still using the undies SF1900 sent you for a mask?


 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 29, 2021, 04:10:42 PM
1-800-GOTJUNK
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 29, 2021, 04:20:08 PM


Around 30" according to this..  ;D



http://gloryholeguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3008
Just the title of the page is enough to keep me from clicking that. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 30, 2021, 11:48:45 AM
 
&t=9s     
&t=67s   
     JUST SOME TOURISTS ON A FRIENDLY TOUR, MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO REALLY SEE HERE,  RIGHT .
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 30, 2021, 12:33:03 PM
 
&t=9s     
&t=67s   
     JUST SOME TOURISTS ON A FRIENDLY TOUR, MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO REALLY SEE HERE,  RIGHT .
You're pretty retarded. blm and antifa have been rioting for over a year, almost nightly and you haven't mentioned anything about them, yet here you are, exposing your TDS daily. Why do you openly support terrorists?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 30, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
You're pretty retarded. blm and antifa have been rioting for over a year, almost nightly and you haven't mentioned anything about them, yet here you are, exposing your TDS daily. Why do you openly support terrorists?
     
                      so in your mind two wrongs make a right, right.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 30, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
An extra day off to clear out the filth and trash.  No more excuses straw - clean your mess
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on May 30, 2021, 07:14:38 PM
     
                      so in your mind two wrongs make a right, right.
Just pointing out your hypocrisy of trying to be Mr Neutral attacking daily one side, while ignoring daily the wrongs of the other side. You're old enough to know better, just admit your TDS and we can all move forward together.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 30, 2021, 07:56:53 PM
It’s amazing how you think those two are even remotely the same

He knows shit about events in Libya !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 30, 2021, 08:00:17 PM
You're pretty retarded. blm and antifa have been rioting for over a year, almost nightly and you haven't mentioned anything about them, yet here you are, exposing your TDS daily. Why do you openly support terrorists?

He's life = TV screen & wheelchair !.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 30, 2021, 08:42:44 PM
Just the title of the page is enough to keep me from clicking that. :D


Haha, come on man live a little!  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 31, 2021, 04:33:19 AM
He's life = TV screen & wheelchair !.  ::)
                               
        that and 90 minutes of training everyday. 45 minutes of cardio and 45 minutes of weights. missed 4 days out of the last 365. of course I'm not a specimen like your hero.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 31, 2021, 11:15:10 AM
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on May 31, 2021, 11:18:29 AM
Looking back: The 1981 Mr. Olympia – The sports darkest moment
By Kevin Grech



 

As we are waiting eagerly for the start of the 2017 contest season, it gives you a lot of time to look back on certain in events that happened in the sport.

The popularity of the sport of bodybuilding has improved drastically from the 60-70’s when it comes to cash prices and the amount of competitors taking part in shows.

The way the physique’s are looking is a totally different story all together.

Today we look back at what would be one of the darkest moments in the history of the Mr. Olympia, the 1981 Mr. Olympia.

The year before Arnold Schwarzenegger won the 1980 Mr. Olympia in a controversial manner. First he was not going to compete and then all of a sudden he is on stage going up against the best bodybuilders in the world at that time. If he should have won or not is still discussed today, but saying this, Arnold had a decent physique to go up against the best.

After the 1980 Mr. Olympia, favorites such as Frank Zane, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe boycotted the 1981 Mr. Olympia.

Seeing that the line up was not going to have a number of top names missing, the IFBB somehow convinced old timers such as Ken Waller, Mike Katz and Ed Corney to take part.

One bodybuilder that saw a window of opportunity was Franco Columbu. The 1976 Mr. Olympia winner obviously thought, if his best friend Arnold Schwarzenegger did it in 1980 he could as well.

The problem was that this time around, even though bodybuilders such as Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer decided not to compete, bodybuilders Chris Dickerson, Tom Platz and Danny Padilla were at the top of their game and in the best shape of their lives.

As you will see in the photos, even though we have the greatest respect for Franco Columbu, he did not only stand a chance against the top 3 but even the top 10.

Franco was suffering from some heavy gyno and his legs, arms and even back were no match compared to Padilla and Platz’s.


 
Franco’s side chest and back pose were literally the only poses that he had.

It is unbelievable how the judges managed to get a result like this.

Another shocking placing was Danny Padilla who ended up finishing fifth. Danny,  Chris Dickerson and Tom Platz were both in the running for the top spot.

When the result was finally given, all the bodybuilders left the stage with Roy Callender showing his disappointment when he ignored Franco and showed his appreciation to second place finished Chris Dickerson.

Danny Padilla just walked off with sixth place finisher Jusup Wilkosz and third place finisher Tom Platz staying on stage to congratulate Franco and take the final photos to the sound of boos and jeers.

The lowest point in the history of the Mr. Olympia? Definitely. Thankfully at the 1982 Olympia Chris Dickerson was crowned then Samir Bannout at the 1983. From 1984 onwards Lee Haney entered the scene and dominated the sport rightfully for eight years.


 
As mentioned in the beginning of the article, we have nothing but great respect for the legend Franco Columbu, but in a sport that is based on how you look on the day, Franco was not at his best.

Some close decisions have had some controversy in recent Olympia’s but they are such close decisions that unfortunately somebody has to lose, but nothing such as the 1981 Olympia has ever happened again.



 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 31, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
     
.

How about how Straw cleaned up his junk yard
R?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 31, 2021, 05:41:00 PM
     

Just got done watching this. Great interview
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 31, 2021, 05:53:02 PM
Just got done watching this. Great interview

Padilla is a genuine all time great and was robbed of the O at least once in his career. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 31, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
Padilla is a genuine all time great and was robbed of the O at least once in his career.

I have a great story of when I was a kid training at Pearls in Pasadena when Mohamed Makkawy was training there and Danny unexpectedly showed up to spy on Makkawy. This in 1977 the year Danny won the Universe
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on May 31, 2021, 06:16:07 PM
I have a great story of when I was a kid training at Pearls in Pasadena when Mohamed Makkawy was training there and Danny unexpectedly showed up to spy on Makkawy. This in 1977 the year Danny won the Universe

Cool.  You can PM it to me or tell it here, sir!  I have always been a fan of Padilla.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: illuminati on May 31, 2021, 06:25:39 PM
I have a great story of when I was a kid training at Pearls in Pasadena when Mohamed Makkawy was training there and Danny unexpectedly showed up to spy on Makkawy. This in 1977 the year Danny won the Universe

Let’s hear it Coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 31, 2021, 06:38:15 PM
You're pretty retarded. blm and antifa have been rioting for over a year, almost nightly and you haven't mentioned anything about them, yet here you are, exposing your TDS daily. Why do you openly support terrorists?

All that Morphine fucked his brain   :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 31, 2021, 06:42:02 PM
An extra day off to clear out the filth and trash.  No more excuses straw - clean your mess


 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2021, 06:42:40 PM
Just got done watching this. Great interview

Doesn't it feel good to take your mind off politics? Even if it's only for a minute or so. I miss reading about your diet...of course, you were prepping for a contest, but your affinity to almonds struck me. Maybe it is because almonds are one of my favorite nuts. Brazil nuts are another. Ever since reading this I grab a small handful of mixed nuts from Costco when I feel like I'm needing to eat healthier.




Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 31, 2021, 06:48:16 PM
Doesn't it feel good to take your mind off politics? Even if it's only for a minute or so. I miss reading about your diet...of course, you were prepping for a contest, but your affinity to almonds struck me. Maybe it is because almonds are one of my favorite nuts. Brazil nuts are another. Ever since reading this I grab a small handful of mixed nuts from Costco when I feel like I'm needing to eat healthier.

For the record, I’d like to point out that when Primemuscle thinks of Coach, he likes to put nuts in his mouth.

Bro....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 31, 2021, 07:15:46 PM
For the record, I’d like to point out that when Primemuscle thinks of Coach, he likes to put nuts in his mouth.

Bro....

 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 31, 2021, 08:22:24 PM
Childishness begets childishness  ::) You both should grow the fuck up.

Nope, I'll be 14-17 forever !.

Drop dead, grumpy old sucker !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 31, 2021, 08:58:37 PM
It’s tied
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 01, 2021, 04:52:14 AM
I have a great story of when I was a kid training at Pearls in Pasadena when Mohamed Makkawy was training there and Danny unexpectedly showed up to spy on Makkawy. This in 1977 the year Danny won the Universe
                         don't leave us hanging coach, you know everyone wants to hear it. :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 01, 2021, 06:16:32 AM
Muscular Development, Vol 8, No 9, Page 8, September 1971

MR. AMERICA CONTEST
IT WAS A GREAT WEEKEND -- a hot one, but one of the BEST. Contestants and spectators from allover the country converged on York for the important festivities that took place on June II, 12 and the 13th. But of the three days, the 12th was the hottest night when the battle for the honor of being chosen as the 30th Mr. America was staged. And from this great array of contenders, it was the massive and husky Casey Viator that came through as the winner. During the past year he has been unusually successful in winning ALL the contests that he decided to enter. Still a teen-ager, Casey is the youngest ever to achieve this great honor. Quite an achievement for one so young!

MR. AMERICA RESULTS

1.   Casey Viator
New Iberia, La.   377
2.   Peter Grymkowski   
Rochester, N.Y.   350
3.   Bill St. Joh
Glassboro, N.J.   350
4.   Edward Corney
Freamont, Calif.   337
5.   Carl Smith
Louisville, Ky.   336
6.   Anibal Lopez
New York, N.Y.   335
7.   Charles Amato
Milwaukie, Ore.   334
8.   Joe Tete
Florence, N.J.   326
9.   Bob Gallucci
Hartford, Conn.   323
10.   Michael Mentzer
Ephrata, Pa.   319
11.   Michael Dayton
Napa, Calif.   319
12.   William Grant
Orange, N.J.   311
13.   Curt Haywood
Pataskala, Oh.   304
14.   Ken Covington
Philadelphia, Pa.   296
15.   Kent Huehn
Orlando, Fla.   290
16.   James Handley
York, Pa.   277
17.   Joe Dodd
Trenton, N.J.   270
18.   Frend Shandor
Manville, N.J.   262
19.   Ron Neff
Philadelphia, Pa.   261
20.   Anthongy Pace
Pittsburgh, Pa.   260
21.   Robert Birdsong
Louisville, Ky.   259
22.   Don Ross
Detroit, Mich.   247
23.   Douglas Beaver
Fremont, Oh.   245
24.   Ronald Gibson
Fremont, Oh.   241
25.   Bill Aspaugh
Noblesville, Ind.   239
26.   Robert McNeill
Broomal, Pa.   238
27.   Thomas Willert
Trenton, N.J.   227
28.   Spyros Loukas
Washington, D.C.   226
29.   Sam Stamoulis
Roebling, N.J.   221
30.   Ronald Thompson
Flint, Mich.   217
31.   Tom Campanaro
Fremont, Oh.   199
32.   Thomas Johnson
New Albany, Ind.   185
33.   Thomas Crawford
Greenboro, N.C.   165
JUDGES: Bob Crist, Chairman
(Virginia Assn.), Morton Steuer
(Metropolitan Assn.), Peary Rader
(Midwestern Assn.), Bob Bendel
(Middle Atlantic Assn.), Joe Paul
(Central Assn.), Jack Lipsky
(south Atlantic Assn.), Jerome
Weis (Ohio Assn.), Gordon Andrews
(Michigan Assn.).

SCORERS: Messrs, Bendel, Paul, Weis.

Most Muscular Man

Casey Viator
Michael Dayton
Bill St. John
Anthony Pace
Peter Grymkowski
Best Arms

Casey Viator
Michael Mentzer
William Grnat
Best Back

Casey Viator
Peter Grymkowski
Charles Amato
Best Chest

Casey Viator
Peter Grymkowski
Bob Gallucci
Best Abdominals

Charles Amato
Anthony Pace
Bill St. John
Best Legs

Casey Viator
Michael Mentzer
Bob Gallucci
Little over a year ago Casey entered and won the Teenage Mr. America title here in York, and less than a month ago, in Bay town, Texas on May 16th, Casey took the Junior Mr. America title, along with most of the subdivision awards. . . which he again repeated in the Seniors. A most impressive string of victories for anyone.

Of course the line-up of contestants this year was one of the best, and certainly one of the largest groups in recent years to assemble, though several failed to put in their appearance at the last minute. Unfortunately, Ken Waller, one of the formidable contenders, was disqualified on the grounds that he allowed his picture, knowingly or unknowingly, to appear in a commercial advertisement circulated in a widely distributed magazine. At a special meeting that morning a final vote was taken on the issue, with only two votes given in his favor, while five opposed him. Naturally, this eliminated him from the competition and Casey had it all his way. If Ken Waller was eligible there would have been a much closer battle for the top honors, since Waller is bigger and heavier and apparently was in top shape, against the shorter but more massive Casey Viator. Of course reaching a decision under those circumstances would have given quite a headache to the judges, and the results might have been different than they turned out. At least it's something to speculate about. However, even as things turned out, a tie for second place resulted between Peter Grymkowski and the perennial Bill St. John. On the second voting ballot, Grymkowski scored 137 points over St. John with 132 points, putting Grymkowski ahead of St. John in the contest. However, another tie for 10th place was also broken by a second ballot. In this case the relatively new-comer, Mike Mentzer, forged ahead of Mike Dayton by one point, 128 to 127. But the overall competition was excellent, and most of the contestants looked really great under the lights.

Periodically, it seems, York has been plagued with the heat of Hades during most of the Nationals that are held here, and this year was no exception. However, the weeks and days BEFORE the York weather was pleasantly cool. . . only to soar near the 90s during the championships. Those who sat through this may be a little shocked to know that immediately following the championships the weather got much cooler, so much so that by Tuesday many places here in York had to turn on the heat! Unbelievable? Yes, but nevertheless, true! In fact ever since the Nationals the weather has been pleasant. . . not nearly as warm as it was during the Nationals. Yet in spite of the heat very few people walked out, and those who did went out only to get a drink of water and returned to their seats promptly. Everyone stayed to the bitter end, so you know it was a good contest and interesting enough to keep everyone in his seat. However, once the winners were announced, and the awards presented, the auditorium began clearing out--but not one minute before!

All in all it was a great championship, and although many people didn't mind the heat, a few did complain. . . but even they did not leave until the finish. Matter of fact, portable air conditioning units were considered prior to the event, but inasmuch as the weather was pleasantly cool earlier, there was no reason to suspect that temperatures would rise near the 90s, as it probably did on Saturday evening when the auditorium was filled to overflowing. Every seat was taken; the aisles were filled, the space along the back row of seats, even the lobby was jammed, all trying to get a glimpse of the contestants as they went through their series of poses. This overcrowding contributed to much of the heat in the auditorium, but as mentioned earlier, everyone remained in his seat until the last of the winners was announced. It was a great contest, and it was put over in a big way. Everyone who witnessed this great event seemed to enjoy it immensely.

There was very little grumbling about the selection. A few thought that Grymkowski should have taken the Best Chest award, and Michael Mentzer should have gotten the award for Best Arms, while Tony Pace should have won the Best Legs trophy. But on the whole the majority of spectators agreed with the decision of the judges, consequently no one booed thus making it a unanimous decision.

Among the assembled throng a number of former Mr. Americas showed up, and everyone of these former title holders looked fit and in top shape. Even muscular Sergio Oliva and massive Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Dan Lurie were about, all looking impressively husky. Matter of fact, Sergio and Arnold plan to compete against each other in London this coming September, along with Bill Pearl, Reg Park, Dennis Tinerino and several others. And in the amateur division, a proposed battled between Viator and Waller is pending; not to forget Chris Dickerson who is again flying over to make his bid for the title. Chris gave a very impressive posing display just before the Mr. America contest got underway, and this man still retains a high degree of muscularity and symmetry that should be a threat in any physique competition.

Our thanks to the appointed photographers who covered the event for Us, especially to John Fritshe, Doug White, AI Antuck, Dave Sauer and Achilles Kallos from South Africa, all of whom did a great job:, but unfortunately due to our deadline we had only contact prints to choose from, therefore used them only in their original size. However, we will feature more of the photos in months to come, and in much larger size. So if you missed this contest, keep a watch on MD. You'll be seeing most of the men in some of their finest poses.

Our thanks goes out to all the men who helped to make this a successful affair, and we look forward to next year's event that will be held in the Detroit area. . . hope to see you there! It's like when they had the 71 mr america contest in york pa . all the big name guys showed up to check out the new kid casey viator.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 01, 2021, 06:19:38 AM
  https://www.t-nation.com/training/old-school-muscle/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 01, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
  https://www.t-nation.com/training/old-school-muscle/
Great article.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 01, 2021, 01:01:45 PM
It’s tied


41 to 40 , Bob is dead !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 01, 2021, 02:34:21 PM

41 to 40 , Bob is dead !.

🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 01, 2021, 06:10:37 PM
Keep this mother f**ker going for another 71 pages. At this point that communist shit bag is down by 1

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 01, 2021, 06:30:44 PM
2 months, 71 pages, new accounts voting recently....  "hahahaha"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 01, 2021, 07:08:05 PM
Muscular Development, Vol 8, No 9, Page 8, September 1971

MR. AMERICA CONTEST
IT WAS A GREAT WEEKEND -- a hot one, but one of the BEST. Contestants and spectators from allover the country converged on York for the important festivities that took place on June II, 12 and the 13th. But of the three days, the 12th was the hottest night when the battle for the honor of being chosen as the 30th Mr. America was staged. And from this great array of contenders, it was the massive and husky Casey Viator that came through as the winner. During the past year he has been unusually successful in winning ALL the contests that he decided to enter. Still a teen-ager, Casey is the youngest ever to achieve this great honor. Quite an achievement for one so young!

MR. AMERICA RESULTS

1.   Casey Viator
New Iberia, La.   377
2.   Peter Grymkowski   
Rochester, N.Y.   350
3.   Bill St. Joh
Glassboro, N.J.   350
4.   Edward Corney
Freamont, Calif.   337
5.   Carl Smith
Louisville, Ky.   336
6.   Anibal Lopez
New York, N.Y.   335
7.   Charles Amato
Milwaukie, Ore.   334
8.   Joe Tete
Florence, N.J.   326
9.   Bob Gallucci
Hartford, Conn.   323
10.   Michael Mentzer
Ephrata, Pa.   319
11.   Michael Dayton
Napa, Calif.   319
12.   William Grant
Orange, N.J.   311
13.   Curt Haywood
Pataskala, Oh.   304
14.   Ken Covington
Philadelphia, Pa.   296
15.   Kent Huehn
Orlando, Fla.   290
16.   James Handley
York, Pa.   277
17.   Joe Dodd
Trenton, N.J.   270
18.   Frend Shandor
Manville, N.J.   262
19.   Ron Neff
Philadelphia, Pa.   261
20.   Anthongy Pace
Pittsburgh, Pa.   260
21.   Robert Birdsong
Louisville, Ky.   259
22.   Don Ross
Detroit, Mich.   247
23.   Douglas Beaver
Fremont, Oh.   245
24.   Ronald Gibson
Fremont, Oh.   241
25.   Bill Aspaugh
Noblesville, Ind.   239
26.   Robert McNeill
Broomal, Pa.   238
27.   Thomas Willert
Trenton, N.J.   227
28.   Spyros Loukas
Washington, D.C.   226
29.   Sam Stamoulis
Roebling, N.J.   221
30.   Ronald Thompson
Flint, Mich.   217
31.   Tom Campanaro
Fremont, Oh.   199
32.   Thomas Johnson
New Albany, Ind.   185
33.   Thomas Crawford
Greenboro, N.C.   165
JUDGES: Bob Crist, Chairman
(Virginia Assn.), Morton Steuer
(Metropolitan Assn.), Peary Rader
(Midwestern Assn.), Bob Bendel
(Middle Atlantic Assn.), Joe Paul
(Central Assn.), Jack Lipsky
(south Atlantic Assn.), Jerome
Weis (Ohio Assn.), Gordon Andrews
(Michigan Assn.).

SCORERS: Messrs, Bendel, Paul, Weis.

Most Muscular Man

Casey Viator
Michael Dayton
Bill St. John
Anthony Pace
Peter Grymkowski
Best Arms

Casey Viator
Michael Mentzer
William Grnat
Best Back

Casey Viator
Peter Grymkowski
Charles Amato
Best Chest

Casey Viator
Peter Grymkowski
Bob Gallucci
Best Abdominals

Charles Amato
Anthony Pace
Bill St. John
Best Legs

Casey Viator
Michael Mentzer
Bob Gallucci
Little over a year ago Casey entered and won the Teenage Mr. America title here in York, and less than a month ago, in Bay town, Texas on May 16th, Casey took the Junior Mr. America title, along with most of the subdivision awards. . . which he again repeated in the Seniors. A most impressive string of victories for anyone.

Of course the line-up of contestants this year was one of the best, and certainly one of the largest groups in recent years to assemble, though several failed to put in their appearance at the last minute. Unfortunately, Ken Waller, one of the formidable contenders, was disqualified on the grounds that he allowed his picture, knowingly or unknowingly, to appear in a commercial advertisement circulated in a widely distributed magazine. At a special meeting that morning a final vote was taken on the issue, with only two votes given in his favor, while five opposed him. Naturally, this eliminated him from the competition and Casey had it all his way. If Ken Waller was eligible there would have been a much closer battle for the top honors, since Waller is bigger and heavier and apparently was in top shape, against the shorter but more massive Casey Viator. Of course reaching a decision under those circumstances would have given quite a headache to the judges, and the results might have been different than they turned out. At least it's something to speculate about. However, even as things turned out, a tie for second place resulted between Peter Grymkowski and the perennial Bill St. John. On the second voting ballot, Grymkowski scored 137 points over St. John with 132 points, putting Grymkowski ahead of St. John in the contest. However, another tie for 10th place was also broken by a second ballot. In this case the relatively new-comer, Mike Mentzer, forged ahead of Mike Dayton by one point, 128 to 127. But the overall competition was excellent, and most of the contestants looked really great under the lights.

Periodically, it seems, York has been plagued with the heat of Hades during most of the Nationals that are held here, and this year was no exception. However, the weeks and days BEFORE the York weather was pleasantly cool. . . only to soar near the 90s during the championships. Those who sat through this may be a little shocked to know that immediately following the championships the weather got much cooler, so much so that by Tuesday many places here in York had to turn on the heat! Unbelievable? Yes, but nevertheless, true! In fact ever since the Nationals the weather has been pleasant. . . not nearly as warm as it was during the Nationals. Yet in spite of the heat very few people walked out, and those who did went out only to get a drink of water and returned to their seats promptly. Everyone stayed to the bitter end, so you know it was a good contest and interesting enough to keep everyone in his seat. However, once the winners were announced, and the awards presented, the auditorium began clearing out--but not one minute before!

All in all it was a great championship, and although many people didn't mind the heat, a few did complain. . . but even they did not leave until the finish. Matter of fact, portable air conditioning units were considered prior to the event, but inasmuch as the weather was pleasantly cool earlier, there was no reason to suspect that temperatures would rise near the 90s, as it probably did on Saturday evening when the auditorium was filled to overflowing. Every seat was taken; the aisles were filled, the space along the back row of seats, even the lobby was jammed, all trying to get a glimpse of the contestants as they went through their series of poses. This overcrowding contributed to much of the heat in the auditorium, but as mentioned earlier, everyone remained in his seat until the last of the winners was announced. It was a great contest, and it was put over in a big way. Everyone who witnessed this great event seemed to enjoy it immensely.

There was very little grumbling about the selection. A few thought that Grymkowski should have taken the Best Chest award, and Michael Mentzer should have gotten the award for Best Arms, while Tony Pace should have won the Best Legs trophy. But on the whole the majority of spectators agreed with the decision of the judges, consequently no one booed thus making it a unanimous decision.

Among the assembled throng a number of former Mr. Americas showed up, and everyone of these former title holders looked fit and in top shape. Even muscular Sergio Oliva and massive Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Dan Lurie were about, all looking impressively husky. Matter of fact, Sergio and Arnold plan to compete against each other in London this coming September, along with Bill Pearl, Reg Park, Dennis Tinerino and several others. And in the amateur division, a proposed battled between Viator and Waller is pending; not to forget Chris Dickerson who is again flying over to make his bid for the title. Chris gave a very impressive posing display just before the Mr. America contest got underway, and this man still retains a high degree of muscularity and symmetry that should be a threat in any physique competition.

Our thanks to the appointed photographers who covered the event for Us, especially to John Fritshe, Doug White, AI Antuck, Dave Sauer and Achilles Kallos from South Africa, all of whom did a great job:, but unfortunately due to our deadline we had only contact prints to choose from, therefore used them only in their original size. However, we will feature more of the photos in months to come, and in much larger size. So if you missed this contest, keep a watch on MD. You'll be seeing most of the men in some of their finest poses.

Our thanks goes out to all the men who helped to make this a successful affair, and we look forward to next year's event that will be held in the Detroit area. . . hope to see you there! It's like when they had the 71 mr america contest in york pa . all the big name guys showed up to check out the new kid casey viator.





Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2021, 06:22:29 AM





:D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 06:26:39 AM
2 months, 71 pages, new accounts voting recently....  "hahahaha"

More importantly - in 2 months - is the hazardous waste dump and pigs pen finally cleaned up?   :D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 02, 2021, 07:02:18 AM
2 months, 71 pages, new accounts voting recently....  "hahahaha"

Think of me as if I were a Dominion voting machine. I’ll stop when it when I get the results I want. See how that works, cupcake?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 07:50:31 AM
Think of me as if I were a Dominion voting machine. I’ll stop when it when I get the results I want. See how that works, cupcake?

How about thinking you as a Trumpturd retard.  Who keeps doing recounts until they get the result they want.

This thread still blew up in your Downs looking face.  No surprise there.  They all do.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 10:29:25 AM
Think of me as if I were a Dominion voting machine. I’ll stop when it when I get the results I want. See how that works, cupcake?

what you are is a whiny little bitch and just like THE TRAITOR your whining is based upon LIES and an inability to deal with reality

Whining should be added to the Republican Party Platform right after the number #1 doctrine of fealty to THE TRAITOR and HIS LIES


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 02, 2021, 10:44:14 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 10:50:06 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2021, 11:52:01 AM
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2021, 11:54:51 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 02, 2021, 12:22:23 PM
Shizzo needs Strawman to stay. Only one can be the most hated on Getbig and Strawman/LNM have that cinched.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 12:28:42 PM
Shizzo needs Strawman to stay. Only one can be the most hated on Getbig and Strawman/LNM have that cinched.

only a fucking moron would invest emotional energy "hating" an anonymous person on the interenet

I guess it never occurred to these morons that they can just choose to ignore someone

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2021, 12:49:57 PM
only a fucking moron would invest emotional energy "hating" an anonymous person on the interenet

I guess it never occurred to these morons that they can just choose to ignore someone
           
       IT's par for the course, they are just acting out on their fearless leaders legacy of hate and disruption.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2021, 01:02:09 PM
THE UNHEARD HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING FORUMS, AS TOLD BY THE TROLLS AND COUNTER-TROLLS WHO MADE THEM HUGE
It was never about the politics. It was always about the drugs. This is how a group of weightlifting pros, supplement sellers and ’roid-obsessed amateurs laid the groundwork for the next two decades of internet anarchy

Once upon a time, the forums associated with sites like Muscular Development and Bodybuilding.com offered users everything they could have wanted: an opportunity to interact with top pro and amateur bodybuilders, a chance to share workout tips, a safe space to learn about anabolic drug use and the possibility of trolling and insulting every other user on the site. The posts were episodic, the rants were epic and the rivalries were enduring. You joined one or more of these forums, selecting some kind of made-up handle (“69UglyKidJoe420” or “IronPounderXXX”), and then went to war. These places, forgotten with the rise of social media and the resulting end of anonymity, weren’t so much marketplaces for ideas as battlefields on which a unique kind of subcultural identity coalesced.


New and improved bodybuilding.com forum rules.
During the rise of the “alt-right,” many articles attempting to trace the genealogy of the movement pointed to 4chan and 8chan (and related information repositories such as Encyclopedia Dramatica) as the furnaces in which all this rebellious, nihilistic, world-hating clay had been forged. The comedy website Something Awful, by contrast, launched the careers of plenty of so-called “dirtbag left” podcasters as well as “weird Twitter” figures like dril. The bodybuilding forums, however, covered a vast sort of middle ground, exemplified by my Grantland-reading, anabolic steroid-loving cousin Doug Alexander.

“I hated all authority, and I wanted to know the truth about muscle,” Doug, a convicted felon who “did it all for the swole,” tells me when I ask him about his decade spent lurking on bodybuilding forums. “I was very into aesthetics at the time — a lot of my handles and nicknames on the sites were variations on ‘AestheticKid’ with some numbers at the end — and I believed I had to learn from the best. There was a lot of bullshit and lies on those forums, even the private ones, but you could also get access to steroid sources, read good information from top gurus, keep up with the gossip and follow all the trash talking.”

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BB’ers talk racism.
Much of what Doug was reading happened to be the legacy of individuals like fitness journalist and author Anthony Roberts, one of several writers who pioneered anabolic research on the newsgroups of the 1990s that preceded the bodybuilding forums of the 2000s. Newsgroups were functionally similar to the later forums where many users migrated, but operated via usenet servers and newsreader software rather than a direct web-based interface.

“The newsgroup era was the actual golden age of all of this, with Anthony Roberts and Bruce Kneller and the other smart guys who were publishing posts back then,” says Aaron Singerman, the CEO of the supplements company Redcon1. “These were people who had a more direct connection to very cutting-edge 1980s researchers like Dan Duchaine, and they were building off that work and exploring further in terms of supplementation, nutrition and performance-enhancing drugs.”


Forum user discusses his own views on “racism.”
“Steroid users wanted to talk shop and couldn’t, usually,” says Roberts. “If you were someone living the bodybuilding lifestyle back in those days, nobody besides ‘gym friends’ wanted to talk about that nonsense with you. And honestly, most of the guys who want to talk about steroids, want to talk about them all day.”

The newsgroups offered a convenient place to compile information and share contacts, but the number of users — like the number of internet users generally during the 1990s — remained small. It was only after the discussion migrated to web-based forums that participation, and especially trolling, increased dramatically.

“You had individuals who operated their own private forums, like the bodybuilding coach Chad Nicholls, and then you had notable publications like Bodybuilding.com and Muscular Development, which had a decent-sized print presence back in the 2000s, that hosted forums,” says Singerman. “And on the MD forums, you had these specialty sub-forums like ‘The Pit’ that you could qualify for after making several hundred posts. Once you got in The Pit, which is a place I had no real desire to visit, you were instructed to write hateful, vicious posts. That was what you were there to do. Racist stuff. Trolling. Doxxing your enemies. Whatever came to mind, no matter how bad it was, it was all encouraged. And remember, we’re talking about something operated by a major magazine, a magazine that was on the shelves at supermarkets, and here one of its special features are these online forums where people can write absolutely insane content. It would be unthinkable today.”

Venturing into “The Pit” or even more innocuous forum sections required a thick skin. Because it was there where people like bodybuilder Vanessa Adams developed reputations as feared trash talkers. “I was ‘dvsness’ on MD, [Bodybuilding.com] and other sites. By the time I got on there, I was a grown-ass woman, and Brooklyn raised me. These people weren’t ready for it.”


Getbig user discusses a hypothetical fight between ex-bodybuilder and convicted murderer Craig Titus and MMA fighter Phil Baroni.
Brandon Edwards, an African-American bodybuilder who now works in supplement sales, also used the forums to talk trash. “The racism was pretty phenomenal, particularly in The Pit, but what was interesting was that some of the most hardcore posters there weren’t all that interested in bodybuilding. They’d rush to hit the number of posts needed to enter the Pit, and then they’d spend all their time in there, saying crazy stuff. Some of them didn’t even work out. But that was fine, because I’d dish it right back at those guys. I’d get them fired up. I’d say things to provoke them, because they were so easily triggered. Interracial dating was a trigger, for example. I developed a thick skin, as anyone would in that environment, and I became interested in how much control I had over these people.”


MD users talk drugs and “building mass.”
“I was one of the few people who began using his own name,” says Singerman. “Initially, I was on some of the sites under an anonymous handle, ‘AaronS889,’ but I realized I wanted to get my real name out there and make actual business connections in preparation for entering the supplement industry. But when some folks learned that my last name was Singerman, it didn’t take them long to start with the anti-semitic stuff.

“Like anyone who came out of that era, though, I developed an immunity to trolling and hateful comments. It came with the territory, but I blocked it out, because you could also virtually meet actual bodybuilding pros and notable coaches on those sites. Here was this sport, in fact, where many of the top contestants were right there on the message boards with you, trading advice and insults. There really wasn’t anything else like that in the mid-2000s. You couldn’t do that with football or baseball players.”

“I was paid by some of the sites that ran these forums and message boards,” says Roberts. “I watched as all these users went from the creep at their university carrying the gallon of water and the dog-eared copy of Flex to one of the bros hanging out on the message board. For them, it became a viable social outlet. I wasn’t there to pal around, though. I was abrasive and wasn’t interested in coddling the terminally incorrect. I worked at one bodybuilding site where the entire comments section was blown up because the members were douchebags. The articles used to have automatic comments sections after each, but the members were such know-it-alls that the site, despite paying staff very well, had difficulty retaining authors. Eventually, that particular place nuked its comments because these members were just the worst type of internet experts, and authors didn’t want their serious work to be followed by a thousand forum comments that begin with ‘well actually.’”


Fans critique the “gurus.”
“The appeal for me was the ‘well actually,’” says my cousin Doug. “I loved to see guys putting down various pros, calling out ‘fake nattys,’ claiming to be natty themselves or just lying about what steroids could or couldn’t do. Lying about how much you take, don’t take, how much you can lift, whatever. Not even lying, really, just talking nonsense. It was amazing, a free-for-all. Whole threads were nothing but misinformation. Everything everyone said seemed like a lie. I got obsessed. I guess when the legal stuff went down with me, when I was heavily into the lifestyle, I thought no one knew more than I did. I initially wanted to learn from experts, but the deeper I got into the lifestyle, the more my thoughts became grandiose. I loved reading these grandiose posts too, people just talking to correct and one-up one another. It was fantastic.”

For Roberts, the forums also offered an opportunity to move into a more high-profile journalistic role. “I suppose I started getting trolled when I distanced myself from the forums to focus on legitimate writing,” he says. “I experienced a lot of hatred from some relentless and dedicated trolls. But it didn’t last, because the value of the investigative reporting I was doing eventually became clear. For the fitness community, the tipping point was Operation Raw Deal back in 2007, the biggest steroid bust ever — four days, 150 arrests. I’d predicted it nine months before it happened, and I’d started learning to navigate the world of arrest reports and indictments. I was able to accurately describe the entire contours of the operation, blogging hourly for a week, and The New York Times consulted with me and mentioned my blog. By that point, trolls were apologizing to me, telling me that I helped the entire online bodybuilding community informed about what was happening.”

Singerman parlayed connections made on the forums into a multimillion-dollar business that now sponsors a number of athletes on social media, the method of communication and information dissemination that began supplanting the fitness forums in the mid-2010s. “Instagram is something completely different: You can read all these posts from fitness personalities, usually in the form of captions helping to promote one or more products, but the interactivity is gone, situations in which you could interact with notable people like Craig Titus and King Kamali,” he says.


“The bodybuilding forums where I got my start were a completely different animal,” he continues. “I’d fire any of the athletes I sponsor on Instagram if I saw them writing the nasty crap that appeared on the forums. It’s a much more public-facing, image-oriented space now. You can see their pictures and follow their workouts. But it’s also less honest, since they’re basically advertising themselves. Social media stars can’t talk about certain things they’re doing that might cost them revenue, like using steroids or engaging in other bad or possibly illegal behaviors. They’re certainly not going to argue back and forth with some punk kids, trading insults, because that’s not good for business, either. They don’t need to be interactive in that same way. You can watch them work out, but you can’t ask them about how they train in quite the same way. That forum era was very beneficial to me, but it’s long gone.”


IFBB bodybuilder Cedric McMillan engages with the fans and talks about the boards in a 2011 post.
But what, I wonder, were the long-term implications for forum users in terms of ideology and political engagement? Did they, like some 4chan and 8chan posters of today, find themselves drifting into the “alt-right?” Or is that perhaps the wrong type of question to ask?

“The legacy of the forums for me was that I became resistant to all abuse,” says Brandon Edwards. “I was already tough when I got on there, given my upbringing, but daily exposure to that sort of venom made me invincible. As for politics, well, I take people on a case-by-case basis. That’s about as much as I care to think about that.”

“I had no politics when I got on the forums, and I have no politics now,” says my cousin Doug. “I didn’t vote then, and because of my legal situation, I can’t vote now. Who cares? Everyone’s a liar or a con artist. The forums drove that point home. Everything sucks, and it’s all a load of crap. Just look good and live the lifestyle for as long as you can, you know? Say what you feel like saying. I want to be happy now. Fake it until you make it, but nobody makes it.”

Roberts, who has been on the forums and part of the subculture longer than anyone else I know, puts the question in a larger historical context. “Back then, it was a pretty standard cross section on the forums, which is weird because you’d assume steroid guys would be liberal because they’d be for drug reform. Some were liberal and thought drug laws needed to be repealed, but others were conservatives who wanted government to stay out of their lives — and steroids — as much as possible. Twenty years ago, you’d suspect these people would all be libertarians, but that suspicion would be incorrect. Libertarian types in 1999 were people like Jesse Ventura and Ross Perot, neither of whom was objectively cool. Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, two celebrities many kids may now think are ‘cool,’ weren’t part of the conversation. So no, I can’t say with any certainty that these people grew up to be Sanders supporters or Trump supporters or something like that.”

“What united everyone on the forums wasn’t a political outlook but rather affection for the steroid lifestyle,” says Singerman. “It wasn’t even a health thing for most of these people. You quickly realize that. They just loved something about the act of taking drugs, either for performance or just for recreational purposes, and everything that went along with it. People like that wanted instant gratification, and a controversial forum post would deliver it. Even if you weren’t being seen, the forums were a place where you could shout from your keyboard and be heard.”




Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 01:31:37 PM
Think of me as if I were a Dominion voting machine. I’ll stop when it when I get the results I want. See how that works, cupcake?

Are you a Dominion voting machine? I find it difficult to think of you as one. If you were a machine and you said you can stop when you get the results you are looking for....you might be onto something. Do Dominion machines have human intelligence and political bias? I kind of doubt that they do. Sorry, but your analogy just isn't working for me. Maybe you can come up with something else that makes more sense.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 01:36:14 PM

Echoing a QAnon conspiracy theory, Trump is telling people that he "expects he will get reinstated by August 2021." Even his cronies wonder if he's finally gone over the edge into complete insanity.

QAnon possibly represents 15% of the U.S. population. Can 15% of the people overthrow the U.S. government?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 02, 2021, 01:41:07 PM

Echoing a QAnon conspiracy theory, Trump is telling people that he "expects he will get reinstated by August 2021." Even his cronies wonder if he's finally gone over the edge into complete insanity.

Almost as insane as an almost 80 year old, gurgling groin gravy at glory holes while his wie is dying, and ask if men are "sexual".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
only a fucking moron would invest emotional energy "hating" an anonymous person on the interenet

I guess it never occurred to these morons that they can just choose to ignore someone

BoB, we know your name,address, etc,.............so you are NOT anonymus person  ;D



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 02:34:27 PM
Echoing a QAnon conspiracy theory, Trump is telling people that he "expects he will get reinstated by August 2021." Even his cronies wonder if he's finally gone over the edge into complete insanity.

QAnon possibly represents 15% of the U.S. population. Can 15% of the people overthrow the U.S. government?


There is NO ANTIFA in Portland, right  ;D ;D ;D

Terrorists organization in other countries , but freelee operates in the States !.

Open Society also "don't" exist ,  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 02:59:12 PM

There is NO ANTIFA in Portland, right  ;D ;D ;D

Terrorists organization in other countries , but freelee operates in the States !.

Open Society also "don't" exist ,  ::)

What the heck are you going on about.

Show me where I ever posted there was no ANTIFA in Portland. Rose City ANTIFA was founded in 2007, long before Trump was even considering running for President.

 Antifaschistische Aktion (ANTIFA) has been around for decades, probably back as far as 1933.

Open Society also "don't" exist. Shouldn't that be doesn't exist. Or, did you mean societies? In which case don't works. What or who are you quoting?

As best as I know open societies do exist. Ask George Soros.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 03:02:21 PM
BoB, we know your name,address, etc,.............so you are NOT anonymus person  ;D

you are correct... I am not "anonymus"

if you think I'm Bob then you have my permission to post all of his personal info right here on this thread

disclaimer - I'm not Bob so I have no authority to approve the posting of his personal info

have at it dipshit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 03:23:26 PM


As best as I know open societies do exist. Ask George Soros.




Old Nazi is DEAD  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 03:26:00 PM
Shizzo needs Strawman to stay. Only one can be the most hated on Getbig and Strawman/LNM have that cinched.

Shizzo needs you to stay.  Only one can be more full of shit than  Shizzo and you got that cinched.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 03:27:27 PM
BoB, we know your name,address, etc,.............so you are NOT anonymus person  ;D

Except he isn't Bob.  So I guess you don't know too  much.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 03:30:36 PM
you are correct... I am not "anonymus"

if you think I'm Bob then you have my permission to post all of his personal info right here on this thread

disclaimer - I'm not Bob so I have no authority to approve the posting of his personal info

have at it dipshit

BoB, 14yo hacker can get all infos about you  ;)

What's 4 lunch, pasta primavera !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 02, 2021, 03:33:11 PM
Except he isn't Bob.  So I guess you don't know too  much.


Strawman gimmick sock puppet knows all it would seem.


(https://caragaleblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/rose-nylund.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 03:41:44 PM

Strawman gimmick sock puppet knows all it would seem.


(https://caragaleblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/rose-nylund.gif)

Kind of hard NOT to know it when the mods have verified and confirmed it multiple times.   Unless you are stupid.  Case in point.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 02, 2021, 03:43:10 PM
I always found it funny how Lurker and Strawman log on and off around the same time lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 03:48:44 PM
I always found it funny how Lurker and Strawman log on and off around the same time lol

Maybe they are distance relationship.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 03:53:48 PM
I always found it funny how Lurker and Strawman log on and off around the same time lol

I always found it funny how you exceed your previous day's stupidity level every day.  Funny, but not unexpected.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 04:10:42 PM

BoB, 14yo hacker can get all infos about you  ;)

What's 4 lunch, pasta primavera !.

come on pussy

post all Bobs info

You have my permission

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 02, 2021, 04:19:41 PM
.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 04:27:38 PM
.

LOL - Hey Columbo  -  did you hear that Iron Cross knows all  Bob's contact info ?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 04:58:52 PM
.

Example 1 of many, where Coach proves he is dumber today than he was yesterday.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 05:09:38 PM

Old Nazi is DEAD  ;)

Your thinking of Paul Soros, George's older brother. You still have time to ask him. You might want to do it pretty soon since he is 90 years old.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 02, 2021, 05:42:31 PM
Example 1 of many, where Coach proves he is dumber today than he was yesterday.

73 pages of the same cut and paste response....proved nothing except to reinforce what a retard you are 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 02, 2021, 06:13:05 PM
only a fucking moron would invest emotional energy "hating" an anonymous person on the interenet

I guess it never occurred to these morons that they can just choose to ignore someone
The hypocrisy is this post is just amazing. You have to be the biggest fucking hater on this site, constantly wishing harm on people, investing countless hours pondering every move TRUMP and COACH do so you can hate and WHINE like a BITCH on the internet to people that don't care if you live or die.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 06:29:16 PM
Except he isn't Bob.  So I guess you don't know too  much.

BoB2 is protecting BoB1

               ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 02, 2021, 06:30:43 PM
73 pages of the same cut and paste response....proved nothing except to reinforce what a retard you are 😂

73 pages of the same retarded posts showing how far in your head Strawman is.  Proves nothing except to reinforce what a stupid little midget you are.  "Birther"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 06:36:10 PM
Your thinking of Paul Soros, George's older brother. You still have time to ask him. You might want to do it pretty soon since he is 90 years old.

You know  :o  what others think ,get real Mr.Fake Icelander .........

Perhaps dead Nazi could meet me in Hungary,Poland,Czech Republic (guess why) !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
I always found it funny how Lurker and Strawman log on and off around the same time lol


No money for the top VPN to set up 2 different time zones !. Poor Robertino  :'(

Norton & similar 'firewalls' can't stop his PC hacking (Joe Biden can confirm this).

Reminder, 14 yo from Melbourne  cracked NASA system  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 06:50:01 PM
LOL - Hey Columbo  -  did you hear that Iron Cross knows all  Bob's contact info ?

BoB, have U ever bet on horses ?.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 06:55:52 PM
You know  :o  what others think ,get real Mr.Fake Icelander .........

Perhaps dead Nazi could meet me in Hungary,Poland,Czech Republic (guess why) !.

It is not my intent to insult you but something seems very amiss with you right now.

Seriously, are you high on something? Your responses are completely out in left field. It appears you either have trouble staying on topic or you forgot what the topic was completely. Here's a reminder we were talking about whether George Soro's was dead or alive. He's alive. You said he was dead. You were mistaken. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 02, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
It is not my intent to insult you but something seems very amiss with you right now.

Seriously, are you high on something? Your responses are completely out in left field. It appears you either have trouble staying on topic or you forgot what the topic was completely. Here's a reminder we were talking about whether George Soro's was dead or alive. He's alive. You said he was dead. You were mistaken.

Great news, ask him to visit any of those 3 countries  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 02, 2021, 09:43:44 PM
I always found it funny how you exceed your previous day's stupidity level every day.  Funny, but not unexpected.

It's pretty astonishing.. there is no correlation between strawman and lurker, but then we are talking about a guy who thinks Trump really won the election so all bets are off.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 02, 2021, 10:02:41 PM
BoB2 is protecting BoB1

               ;D



(https://media3.giphy.com/media/1sJepto2rqTcs/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 02, 2021, 10:32:24 PM
BoB, have U ever bet on horses ?.

You should ask Bob that question

you claim to have his contact info so just give him a call.... dumbass

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 03, 2021, 01:14:45 AM
This thread popularity just shows Strawman is popular, liked, and not Bob.
99% of us here are trolls, so if Straw goes, honestly the whole forum would also need to go.
Ya cant, just cant take the place seriously, no, not GetBig.
Enjoy it for what it is, political bashing ground sprinkled with a little BB/Muscle talk.
If you are here and wish it was all BB and serious, youre in the wrong place.
I noticed on Basskillers Muscle Board (World-Class Forums) banned Political talk.
So its 100% bodybuilding. You want that type of forum, it is out there, just not here.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 03, 2021, 07:51:43 AM
BoB, have U ever bet on horses ?.

No but he has bet on jackasses.  He's betting you won't post any details.  Jackass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 03, 2021, 07:53:24 AM
It's pretty astonishing.. there is no correlation between strawman and lurker, but then we are talking about a guy who thinks Trump really won the election so all bets are off.

Fragile X knows no bounds in Coach.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 03, 2021, 10:47:45 AM
This thread popularity just shows Strawman is popular, liked, and not Bob.
99% of us here are trolls, so if Straw goes, honestly the whole forum would also need to go.
Ya cant, just cant take the place seriously, no, not GetBig.
Enjoy it for what it is, political bashing ground sprinkled with a little BB/Muscle talk.
If you are here and wish it was all BB and serious, youre in the wrong place.
I noticed on Basskillers Muscle Board (World-Class Forums) banned Political talk.
So its 100% bodybuilding. You want that type of forum, it is out there, just not here.
     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD EXACTLY, NOBODY REALLY CARES WHAT YOU OR I REALLY THINK ABOUT POLITICS. WHY GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE BECAUSE SOMEONE THINKS BIDEN OR TRUMP SUCK. GET A CLUE ALREADY. THEY ALL SUCK. NOW IF YOU RUN DOWN WHO WON MR. AMERICA IN 1971, THEN WE GOT A PROBLEM ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 03, 2021, 10:56:38 AM
     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD EXACTLY, NOBODY REALLY CARES WHAT YOU OR I REALLY THINK ABOUT POLITICS. WHY GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE BECAUSE SOMEONE THINKS BIDEN OR TRUMP SUCK. GET A CLUE ALREADY. THEY ALL SUCK. NOW IF YOU RUN DOWN WHO WON MR. AMERICA IN 1971, THEN WE GOT A PROBLEM ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

My "problem" is those that present a genuine dislike for our Constitution, our history, our culture and heritage and our Nation and would put all that aside, nay they would destroy it in favor of turd world anarchy and so-called "fairness" wherein the fairest skin pays the dearest price, their lives in deemed necessary by such as them.  FUCK THAT.  I am for Americans regardless of skin color. I do not hyphenate my heritage nor citizenship.  I do not think this of you but I do of others and my disgust for these beings is well known and yet they play at being above us all.

Fuck them.  I am American first and and foremost and therefor I am for President Trump as he is for America and her citizenry.  I have met and been put upon by whole asses like Straw throughout my life.  In the real world I would speak to them as I do here for they present their opinions and disdain for our Nation as genuine and so is my disgust for them and their "ideals".

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 03, 2021, 11:00:01 AM
It blows my mind even after 10+ years on this forum.  There are people here that are so skewed and extreme either left or right that they will not ever concede to a fault of their side no matter how factual it is.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 03, 2021, 11:07:01 AM
It blows my mind even after 10+ years on this forum.  There are people here that are so skewed and extreme either left or right that they will not ever concede to a fault of their side no matter how factual it is.

Its a lot better when we all gang up on SMM  :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 03, 2021, 11:13:04 AM
Its a lot better when we all gang up on SMM  :D ;D


hehehehehehe.   

BTW, I don't consider you one of those people. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 03, 2021, 11:51:40 AM
It blows my mind even after 10+ years on this forum.  There are people here that are so skewed and extreme either left or right that they will not ever concede to a fault of their side no matter how factual it is.


Ah, yes....well to be fair one party is more extreme is it not?

I think when a country not having borders and limiting free speech to the extent we've seen(just quick examples...there are many more) becomes a major party's platform that could be the reason.

These are indefensible by a "moderate" democrat, which is precisely why there is never an actual far left policy defense on here. What is there to concede when it is hurting the country?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2021, 01:03:40 PM

Ah, yes....well to be fair one party is more extreme is it not?

I think when a country not having borders and limiting free speech to the extent we've seen(just quick examples...there are many more) becomes a major party's platform that could be the reason.

These are indefensible by a "moderate" democrat, which is precisely why there is never an actual far left policy defense on here. What is there to concede when it is hurting the country?

an even bigger problem is that one party believes lies such as that we have no borders or that the election was stolen

not sure what your "free speech" comment is about

I know it's not about THE TRAITOR since he is free to say or write whatever he wants

He just can't write it on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram because he violated their rules

No one has a constituational right to Twitter
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 01:40:44 PM
an even bigger problem is that one party believes lies such as that we have no borders or that the election was stolen

not sure what your "free speech" comment is about

I know it's not about THE TRAITOR since he is free to say or write whatever he wants

He just can't write it on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram because he violated their rules

No one has a constituational right to Twitter

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/03/photos-hundreds-of-migrants-visit-this-texas-border-city-block-daily-before-moving-north/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/exclusive-migrants-resort-to-panhandling-as-catch-and-release-overwhelms-west-texas-border-shelters/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/watch-screaming-migrant-child-abandoned-on-border-riverbank-in-texas/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/05/31/exclusive-video-200-migrants-cross-into-south-texas-on-rafts/

You still haven’t been able to refute anything and I mean ANYTHING I’ve posted here or anywhere about the election NOT being stolen....still waiting cupcake
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 03, 2021, 02:15:03 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/03/photos-hundreds-of-migrants-visit-this-texas-border-city-block-daily-before-moving-north/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/exclusive-migrants-resort-to-panhandling-as-catch-and-release-overwhelms-west-texas-border-shelters/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/watch-screaming-migrant-child-abandoned-on-border-riverbank-in-texas/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/05/31/exclusive-video-200-migrants-cross-into-south-texas-on-rafts/

You still haven’t been able to refute anything and I mean ANYTHING I’ve posted here or anywhere about the election NOT being stolen....still waiting cupcake

You haven’t proven the election was stolen. Parroting conspiracy theories isn’t proof grandpa. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 02:17:31 PM
You “voted” for this idiot


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/watch-biden-absurdly-claims-white-supremacy-bigger-terrorism-threat-isis-al-qaeda/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 02:18:53 PM
You haven’t proven the election was stolen. Parroting conspiracy theories isn’t proof grandpa.

You keep telling yourself that, Junior. Audits will be expanded into Pennsylvania
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2021, 02:19:08 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/03/photos-hundreds-of-migrants-visit-this-texas-border-city-block-daily-before-moving-north/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/exclusive-migrants-resort-to-panhandling-as-catch-and-release-overwhelms-west-texas-border-shelters/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/02/watch-screaming-migrant-child-abandoned-on-border-riverbank-in-texas/

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/05/31/exclusive-video-200-migrants-cross-into-south-texas-on-rafts/

You still haven’t been able to refute anything and I mean ANYTHING I’ve posted here or anywhere about the election NOT being stolen....still waiting cupcake

stop begging for my attention

LOL @ Breitbart

Fake News

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/breitbart/

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2021, 02:20:44 PM
You “voted” for this idiot


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/watch-biden-absurdly-claims-white-supremacy-bigger-terrorism-threat-isis-al-qaeda/

Pay attention Trumptard

Trumps DHS said the SAME THING last year


Quote
WASHINGTON, D.C. — In its first-ever “Homeland Threat Assessment” released on Tuesday, the Department of Homeland Security named white supremacist groups as the single most dangerous domestic extremist threat to the nation.

White supremacist groups pose the largest threat out of any domestic extremist group in the US, according to a new DHS report

Since 2018, white supremacist groups have been responsible for more deaths than any other domestic extremist group, report says

The DHS warns that foreign actors also pose a threat to election infrastructure and policy

Russian actors are specifically targeting Joe Biden's campaign in the leadup to the presidential elections

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/jamestown/news/2020/10/07/white-supremacist-groups-pose-greatest-us-domestic-terror-threat

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 02:26:33 PM
Pay attention Trumptard

Trumps DHS said the SAME THING last year


https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/jamestown/news/2020/10/07/white-supremacist-groups-pose-greatest-us-domestic-terror-threat

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

Hey fucktard. He said it was a bigger threat then ISIS or Alqueda.  But to be fair, the biggest pussies on the planet besides “woke” liberals is Antifa.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2021, 02:32:10 PM
Hey fucktard. He said it was a bigger threat then ISIS or Alqueda.  But to be fair, the biggest pussies on the planet besides “woke” liberals is Antifa.

Hey phony "coach"

I told you to PAY ATTENTION

Here is what Biden said (this is from YOUR POST)

Quote
Terrorism from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today,” Biden

Here is what Trumps DHS said in 2020

Quote
In its first-ever “Homeland Threat Assessment” released on Tuesday, the Department of Homeland Security named white supremacist groups as the single most dangerous domestic extremist threat to the nation.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2021, 03:06:43 PM
You keep telling yourself that, Junior. Audits will be expanded into Pennsylvania

Yup. Republicans, be sure to keep those donations rolling in there needed to preform audits which will not result in overturning the 2020 presidential election.

Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, also called for Pennsylvania to conduct an audit, which he said could potentially focus on one county that leaned Republican and another that leaned Democratic. Mr. Biden won the state last year. “I’m not about overturning anything,” he said. “I’m just trying to find out what went right, what went wrong? And how do we have better elections in the future?”

Mr. Mastriano traveled to Washington on January 6, 2020 to protest the presidential election results.


Wall Street Journal
Alexa Corse
June 2, 2021
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 03:20:42 PM
Yup. Republicans, be sure to keep those donations rolling in there needed to preform audits which will not result in overturning the 2020 presidential election.

Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, also called for Pennsylvania to conduct an audit, which he said could potentially focus on one county that leaned Republican and another that leaned Democratic. Mr. Biden won the state last year. “I’m not about overturning anything,” he said. “I’m just trying to find out what went right, what went wrong? And how do we have better elections in the future?”

Mr. Mastriano traveled to Washington on January 6, 2020 to protest the presidential election results.


Wall Street Journal
Alexa Corse
June 2, 2021

Not sure you highlighted that. I’ve said a fucking million times it wasn’t about overturning the election but like the true leftist you are, you want keep thinking this is what it’s about
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 03, 2021, 03:23:52 PM
You keep telling yourself that, Junior. Audits will be expanded into Pennsylvania

Oh you are one of these retards that think Trumpy will be back in office by August.

Keep telling yourself that dumbass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 03, 2021, 03:25:27 PM
Hahahaha Dumbass Coach still floundering in his ocean of tears.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 03:32:53 PM
Oh you are one of these retards that think Trumpy will be back in office by August.

Keep telling yourself that dumbass.

You are one dumb illiterate SOB...read the above post..tard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2021, 03:45:37 PM
Not sure you highlighted that. I’ve said a fucking million times it wasn’t about overturning the election but like the true leftist you are, you want keep thinking this is what it’s about

I highlighted it because what State Sen. Doug Mastriano said supports that these audits are not intended to overturn the election. Perhaps you might want to read it again when you're not feeling so...defensive.

And good on you for understanding that these audits, regardless of outcome, will not overturn the election. Not everyone sees it this way. MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell is continuing to push the claim that Donald Trump will return as president in August 2021, saying there is a "clear path" for him back to the White House.
 
Here's the link to a report on Steve Bannon's interview with Mike Lindell.  Be sure to notice that Lindell's comments are in quotes.....a pretty good sign that these are actually his words.
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-lindell-trump-president-august-supreme-court-conspiracy-qanon-1597147
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 03, 2021, 06:15:03 PM
73 pages of the same retarded posts showing how far in your head Strawman is.  Proves nothing except to reinforce what a stupid little midget you are.  "Birther"
Just curious, does straw man call or text you to come back him up or does he just roll over and nudge you ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 03, 2021, 06:56:09 PM
Just curious, does straw man call or text you to come back him up or does he just roll over and nudge you ???

Robertino is BoB1 & BoB2 !.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 03, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
You should ask Bob that question

you claim to have his contact info so just give him a call.... dumbass

your landline is not connected  :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 03, 2021, 07:18:21 PM
an even bigger problem is that one party believes lies such as that we have no borders or that the election was stolen

not sure what your "free speech" comment is about

I know it's not about THE TRAITOR since he is free to say or write whatever he wants

He just can't write it on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram because he violated their rules

No one has a constituational right to Twitter



Correct, it's everyone but Trump I was referring to about free speech. We live in dangerous times when it comes to control of information.

Once again, nobody who claims to be a moderate dem that has anything traditional going on in their lives can explain the dem party platform as to how it benefits them. It's really like a huge blind spot. But you have Trump out of there, I guess that's all that mattered?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 03, 2021, 07:30:43 PM


Correct, it's everyone but Trump I was referring to about free speech. We live in dangerous times when it comes to control of information.

Once again, nobody who claims to be a moderate dem that has anything traditional going on in their lives can explain the dem party platform as to how it benefits them. It's really like a huge blind spot. But you have Trump out of there, I guess that's all that mattered?

Last week Indian police busted Twitters office  :D India is Twitters #.2 market.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2021, 11:02:45 PM
Hey phony "coach"

I told you to PAY ATTENTION

Here is what Biden said (this is from YOUR POST)

Here is what Trumps DHS said in 2020

If we ever meet it won’t even be a cordial throat punch
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 04, 2021, 01:56:34 AM
Twitter.. LOL   ::)

Twitter Whiner->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Folks w/ a Life
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2021, 05:09:53 AM
Here we are again.  For F sake clean your mess this weekend! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 04, 2021, 06:20:39 AM
If we ever meet it won’t even be a cordial throat punch

LOL!

Of all the ways to tell someone like Straw to fuck off, "fuck off" is pretty much my favorite.   ;D 
Well said, Coach!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 04, 2021, 08:36:50 AM
Just curious, does straw man call or text you to come back him up or does he just roll over and nudge you ???

Just curious, when you and Coach are shedding your tears of impotent rage, do you both keep your heads up Trumpys ass or do you take turns?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 04, 2021, 09:00:33 AM
We need a communist purge day
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 10:02:00 AM
your landline is not connected  :-\

wrong

what number did you dial?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
If we ever meet it won’t even be a cordial throat punch

LOL - you'd have to climb a ladder to reach that high

I see you have no other response when faced with the FACT that TRUMPS DHS SAID THE EXACT SAME THING THAT BIDEN SAID
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2021, 10:08:34 AM
LOL - you'd have to climb a ladder to reach that high

I see you have no other response when faced with the FACT that TRUMPS DHS SAID THE EXACT SAME THING THAT BIDEN SAID

You are both in Californication right?   Why not just meet up and fight in a school yard and then share a beer afterwards?  I'm sure OMR can set it up.   We can even do a PPV on GB.  All proceeds go to choice of the victor.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 10:18:24 AM
You are both in Californication right?   Why not just meet up and fight in a school yard and then share a beer afterwards?  I'm sure OMR can set it up.   We can even do a PPV on GB.  All proceeds go to choice of the victor.

I don't give a rats ass the phony "coach" and what exactly would we be fighting about anyway

I have no anger towards him

he's just another right wing moron


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2021, 10:29:34 AM
I don't give a rats ass the phony "coach" and what exactly would we be fighting about anyway

I have no anger towards him

he's just another right wing moron

Maybe we can fly up SMM from Brazil to be the special guest referee?   :D ;D 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 04, 2021, 10:39:20 AM
Say what you want about Straw, he handles internet "squabbles" very well, doesn't get all worked up, threatening people.
The only libturd I find despicable on this forum is:

The "West Linn Loin Licka'"

The "Geriatric Groin Gravy Guzzler"

The "Clackamas County C0ck Connoisseur"

The "Pimlico Penis Puffer"

 ::)

Prime->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Everyone
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 04, 2021, 10:40:30 AM
Last week Indian police busted Twitters office  :D India is Twitters #.2 market.

Is government interference is a good policy or a bad one?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 04, 2021, 11:30:40 AM
Is government interference is a good policy or a bad one?


Depends on whether Twitter is limiting free speech like they are in the USA.

India has a freedom of speech clause in its constitution.

Too bad the USA political class sees this as a nuisance.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 11:42:21 AM

Depends on whether Twitter is limiting free speech like they are in the USA.

India has a freedom of speech clause in its constitution.

Too bad the USA political class sees this as a nuisance.

Where in the US Constitution does it say that you have a right to Twitter ?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 04, 2021, 11:47:27 AM

Ah, yes....well to be fair one party is more extreme is it not?

I think when a country not having borders and limiting free speech to the extent we've seen(just quick examples...there are many more) becomes a major party's platform that could be the reason.

These are indefensible by a "moderate" democrat, which is precisely why there is never an actual far left policy defense on here. What is there to concede when it is hurting the country?

I donno.  I see extreme-ness on both sides.  And Both sides use those peeps to demonize the less extreme.  IMO The open border problem is easily solved, but both sides ignore the truth of it and don't have the balls to do what's needed.  We don't need an overpriced ineffective wall.  Go after the companies that employ undocumented workers.   

How are the democrats limiting free speech?

Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc are businesses, are not government entities.  That's the beauty of a capitalistic free market.  If you don't like it, patronize something else.   I am sure that's what conservatives would say if the roles were reversed.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
Say what you want about Straw, he handles internet "squabbles" very well, doesn't get all worked up, threatening people.
The only libturd I find despicable on this forum is:

The "West Linn Loin Licka'"

The "Geriatric Groin Gravy Guzzler"

The "Clackamas County C0ck Connoisseur"

The "Pimlico Penis Puffer"

 ::)

Prime->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Everyone

If you keep making posts like this someone is going to start accusing you of being me  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 04, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
If you keep making posts like this someone is going to start accusing you of being me  ;D

If I post pics of my current lawn, they may think so even more.  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 04, 2021, 12:05:53 PM
Where in the US Constitution does it say that you have a right to Twitter ?


Social media is the new print medium. There was journo integrity as well as laws like libel and slander that protected people from what we see now.

Should a small site like getbig be subject to extra scrutiny like a utility? No....but a platform with millions of users where the platform actively is shaping and cancelling information should.

I hate to say it but people are really too stupid to defend themselves from the onslaught of information that we have access to now.

Also, STILL waiting on how the current dem platform benefits normal tax paying middle class people...the "moderate democrats"...other than offering some ghostly level of virtue or satisfying white guilt. There is never an answer for why it is good to give the future of your family away for the sake of a political whim.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 04, 2021, 12:14:22 PM
I donno.  I see extreme-ness on both sides.  And Both sides use those peeps to demonize the less extreme.  IMO The open border problem is easily solved, but both sides ignore the truth of it and don't have the balls to do what's needed.  We don't need an overpriced ineffective wall.  Go after the companies that employ undocumented workers.   

How are the democrats limiting free speech?

Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc are businesses, are not government entities.  That's the beauty of a capitalistic free market.  If you don't like it, patronize something else.   I am sure that's what conservatives would say if the roles were reversed.


You're saying it's easier to check every small business for aliens than building a wall? Nonsense. Every country in history has had a defended border. It is a physical as well as mental barrier that shows intent. Saying we need to check countless businesses for aliens while supporting the party of present flowing open borders is just backwards as it gets. Then you find them and deport them right? No? What? HAHA.

Explained my take on large social media being like the large trusted newspapers of the past in prior post. Yes, very much I'm in favor of letting the market settle things but I think people are being unduly harmed by social media and that media is in the tank for a party with very questionable motives.

I hear the left talk about conservative dominance of talk radio while 95% of everything else is touting daily things that would be unimaginably left wing just 10-15 years ago.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 04, 2021, 12:15:50 PM

Social media is the new print medium. There was journo integrity as well as laws like libel and slander that protected people from what we see now.

Should a small site like getbig be subject to extra scrutiny like a utility? No....but a platform with millions of users where the platform actively is shaping and cancelling information should.

So are you saying it needs regulation?


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I hate to say it but people are really too stupid to defend themselves from the onslaught of information that we have access to now.

Yep


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Also, STILL waiting on how the current dem platform benefits normal tax paying middle class people...the "moderate democrats"...other than offering some ghostly level of virtue or satisfying white guilt.

We are still getting fucked no matter who is in the WH.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 04, 2021, 12:22:34 PM
So are you saying it needs regulation?


Yep


We are still getting fucked no matter who is in the WH.



What I'm saying is there are no norms or standards of reporting on these huge platforms where nearly everybody is getting their information. Worse yet, these platforms are activist in nature without making their "customers"(which is not what they actually are while being data mined to hell and back) aware.

It's not good enough to say it doesn't matter. Of course it's two sides of the same coin but look at the cap gains tax coming and tell me about how it doesn't matter when you have to sell your parents house and get hit with a 32% rate.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2021, 12:32:09 PM
&t=6s       HOW TRUMPTARDS VIEW THEIR HERO.     
     
     THE REALITY. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 12:33:22 PM

Social media is the new print medium. There was journo integrity as well as laws like libel and slander that protected people from what we see now.

Should a small site like getbig be subject to extra scrutiny like a utility? No....but a platform with millions of users where the platform actively is shaping and cancelling information should.

I hate to say it but people are really too stupid to defend themselves from the onslaught of information that we have access to now.

Also, STILL waiting on how the current dem platform benefits normal tax paying middle class people...the "moderate democrats"...other than offering some ghostly level of virtue or satisfying white guilt. There is never an answer for why it is good to give the future of your family away for the sake of a political whim.

All sites post rules (even this one)

THE TRAITOR violated the rules and got banned

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 04, 2021, 12:42:37 PM

You're saying it's easier to check every small business for aliens than building a wall? Nonsense.

yes and no.  You wouldn't check every business.  But much like a state audit, it can happen by surprise any time and the penalties would be huge to the point it could put that business out of business.

Walls are BS.  Canada doesn't have a wall.  I would think there would be a flood of people wanting to go there because it's so socialist and lots of free shit. 

And to me the truth is, we don't want illegals to leave.  It keeps our prices down and frankly, what difference does it make with them being here?

Now, they shouldn't vote and should be subject to all laws, no sanc city BS.


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Every country in history has had a defended border. It is a physical as well as mental barrier that shows intent. Saying we need to check countless businesses for aliens while supporting the party of present flowing open borders is just backwards as it gets. Then you find them and deport them right? No? What? HAHA.

No one is going to employ them if it means they will lose their buisness.


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Explained my take on large social media being like the large trusted newspapers of the past in prior post. Yes, very much I'm in favor of letting the market settle things but I think people are being unduly harmed by social media and that media is in the tank for a party with very questionable motives.

I don't disagree that SM is not good for the feeble-minded.


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I hear the left talk about conservative dominance of talk radio while 95% of everything else is touting daily things that would be unimaginably left wing just 10-15 years ago.

Maybe...  I don't listen to talk radio too much other than sports.   



What I'm saying is there are no norms or standards of reporting on these huge platforms where nearly everybody is getting their information. Worse yet, these platforms are activist in nature without making their "customers"(which is not what they actually are while being data mined to hell and back) aware.


I know lol. 

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It's not good enough to say it doesn't matter. Of course it's two sides of the same coin but look at the cap gains tax coming and tell me about how it doesn't matter when you have to sell your parents house and get hit with a 32% rate.

I understand this.  But my point is, Things didn't get much better under Trump in the context of wages, quality of living, health care cost, insurance etc.  And this Bozo in the WH doesn't look like he's doing jack either.  OB sold his soul for the legacy of ACA, another scam.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2021, 12:43:17 PM
       
   
&t=139s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2021, 12:47:17 PM
judging from this thread there are only 81 actual members on getbig. 40 are independent thinkers. 33 are trumptards and finally we have 8 homicidal maniacs. a good mix which reflects how divided we have become as a society as a whole. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2021, 01:11:59 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2021, 01:17:55 PM
     just fleshing it out to take it to 76 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 04, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc are businesses, are not government entities.  That's the beauty of a capitalistic free market.  If you don't like it, patronize something else.   

THIS!   But Trumpturds can't understand something so simple because they need some kind of excuse to make for their orange baboon. They've got nothing else so they have to invent something.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 04, 2021, 05:31:04 PM
I don't give a rats ass the phony "coach" and what exactly would we be fighting about anyway

I have no anger towards him

he's just another right wing moron

BoB, I could easily organize friendly fight between you & Coach in Bangkok in July/August !.

Thais have very nice Muay Thai rings & hospitals  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 05:43:18 PM
BoB, I could easily organize friendly fight between you & Coach in Bangkok in July/August !.

Thais have very nice Muay Thai rings & hospitals  ;)

Why don't you and the phony "coach" fly out to Florida and see what Bob says

or you can just call Bob since you have his number
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on June 04, 2021, 05:44:47 PM
BoB, I could easily organize friendly fight between you & Coach in Bangkok in July/August !.

Thais have very nice Muay Thai rings & hospitals  ;)

You can barely organize your thoughts let alone a coherent sentence.   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 04, 2021, 05:50:48 PM
Why don't you and the phony "coach" fly out to Florida and see what Bob says

or you can just call Bob since you have his number

I'll be there if the Civil War starts  :D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 04, 2021, 07:57:27 PM
yes and no.  You wouldn't check every business.  But much like a state audit, it can happen by surprise any time and the penalties would be huge to the point it could put that business out of business.

Walls are BS.  Canada doesn't have a wall.  I would think there would be a flood of people wanting to go there because it's so socialist and lots of free shit. 

And to me the truth is, we don't want illegals to leave.  It keeps our prices down and frankly, what difference does it make with them being here?

Now, they shouldn't vote and should be subject to all laws, no sanc city BS.


No one is going to employ them if it means they will lose their buisness.


I don't disagree that SM is not good for the feeble-minded.


Maybe...  I don't listen to talk radio too much other than sports.   


I know lol. 

I understand this.  But my point is, Things didn't get much better under Trump in the context of wages, quality of living, health care cost, insurance etc.  And this Bozo in the WH doesn't look like he's doing jack either.  OB sold his soul for the legacy of ACA, another scam.


Canada probably would have a wall if bordering Mexico...but they are bordering the USA so that example is nonsense. It's like having a cop as your next door neighbor.

Millions of people not paying into the system but taking from it is not worth "keeping prices down"....if that even is the case...in which I would have to see it.

Not giving them rights sounds like you want a slave class? Interesting...

Things were better under Trump for those that were doing the deal already..working, paying their bills, etc. Vastly better for small businesses. Those who were waiting for free and easy were a bit worse off...maybe...but guess who pays for all this? The first group....again, where are the getbig libs explaining the dem party platform as it benefits middle class people - who are voting themselves out of the middle class?






Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
If I post pics of my current lawn, they may think so even more.  :)

I don't even recall where that premise came from

there might be something that I've forgotten or it could be this


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 04, 2021, 09:53:28 PM
You can barely organize your thoughts let alone a coherent sentence.   ;D

don't U drive & type , relax old man  8)

see yaa in Kandahar................
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on June 04, 2021, 11:15:24 PM
don't U drive & type , relax old man  8)

see yaa in Kandahar................

Shawarma on me!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 05, 2021, 03:58:45 AM
I don't even recall where that premise came from

there might be something that I've forgotten or it could be this


Not sure, maybe Rob/300.00-website guy (240) posed his lawn pics at one time.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 05, 2021, 06:57:01 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 05, 2021, 07:03:15 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.

He is weekend at Bernies bro.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 05, 2021, 07:05:41 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.

Those are definitely pluses.

Too many minuses for Sleepy Creepy though to offset.

Trump could have been one of America's greatest Presidents but he blew it by acting like a child.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: TheShape. on June 05, 2021, 07:12:12 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.
Yes we love our high gas prices, infrastructure hacks, uncontrollable spending, inflation, and race baiting.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 07:26:17 AM
Yes love our classy educated first lady, the lack of Administration indictments, the constant turnover of "losers" that Trumpy hired himself and harped on until they couldn't take his infantile bullshit anymore, we love the $600,000 we save each time Biden doesn't play golf, we love the press secretary that isn't a borderline retard like Spicer, Sanders or McEnany and gets exposed so easily in their lies about Trumpy's lies, we love the President's lack of constantly needing attention with rallies with the base idiots and his complete lack of retarded ideas like raking forests, nuking hurricanes, water bombing burning buildings and changing the weather with his magic Sharpie marker, etc.. etc.... 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 08:30:33 AM
Yes love our classy educated first lady, the lack of Administration indictments, the constant turnover of "losers" that Trumpy hired himself and harped on until they couldn't take his infantile bullshit anymore, we love the $600,000 we save each time Biden doesn't play golf, we love the press secretary that isn't a borderline retard like Spicer, Sanders or McEnany and gets exposed so easily in their lies about Trumpy's lies, we love the President's lack of constantly needing attention with rallies with the base idiots and his complete lack of retarded ideas like raking forests, nuking hurricanes, water bombing burning buildings and changing the weather with his magic Sharpie marker, etc.. etc....

Awwwwww...did all of those mean tweets leave you with a boo boo face? Yet still the most powerful man in America Hahahahahaha

Just wait..it's only the re-beginning  :)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 05, 2021, 10:18:26 AM
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 05, 2021, 10:24:00 AM
Those are definitely pluses.

Too many minuses for Sleepy Creepy though to offset.

Trump could have been one of America's greatest Presidents but he blew it by acting like a child.

Maybe I missed something....but I don't remember you ever posting anything that was not positive about Trump. Are you beginning to see him in a slightly different light? Also, I agree with your Trump blew it and Trump acts like an overindulged, attention whoring, child.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 05, 2021, 10:24:57 AM
^^^^^^^^

.....and still all libs talk about is personality not policy. Men who vote like women.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 10:44:04 AM
Awwwwww...did all of those mean tweets leave you with a boo boo face? Yet still the most powerful man in America Hahahahahaha

Just wait..it's only the re-beginning  :)

Awwww.... did all his lies leave you with hope he is getting back in the WH in August?  Yet still the biggest laughing stock in America and the world. 

Just wait...  it's only the re-ending.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 05, 2021, 10:45:50 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.
You forgot the most important:  No brain activity at all
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 05, 2021, 10:55:10 AM
Awwwwww...did all of those mean tweets leave you with a boo boo face? Yet still the most powerful man in America Hahahahahaha

Just wait..it's only the re-beginning  :)

Are you afraid to say it because it might not happen? You know, the August coup d'état. Have you been partying and chatting it up with Sidney Powell, Michael Flynn, Michael J. Lindell (put your head on my pillow 🎵🎵🎵), Kevin McCarthy, Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt Gaetz, Rudy Giuliani, Roseanne Barr, James Woods, Pete Evans, Donald Trump and other of your QAnon friends lately? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 10:55:57 AM
Awwww.... did all his lies leave you with hope he is getting back in the WH in August?  Yet still the biggest laughing stock in America and the world. 

Just wait...  it's only the re-ending.

Only in your little pea brain. That “laughing stock” kept us out wars for four years. This asshole gets in and within the first 2 months he’s being tested by every country Trump dealt with and now on the brink of war because China owns him and he’s a weak guy....not to mention giving $250mil to Hamas (terrorists). Fuck off commie
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 05, 2021, 11:24:51 AM
Maybe I missed something....but I don't remember you ever posting anything that was not positive about Trump. Are you beginning to see him in a slightly different light? Also, I agree with your Trump blew it and Trump acts like an overindulged, attention whoring, child.

I knew Trump was an ass when I voted for him the first time but the future appointment of conservative Supreme Court justices was the key factor.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 05, 2021, 11:33:33 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1307247;image)

Also:

NO uniting the county as promised
NO attempts at bipartisanship
NO tough questions from the media
NO exoneration of the Hunter Biden situation
NO solution the self created border crisis
NO lack of blaming the prior admin (despite the ironic "no blaming" in the graphic)
NO censorship of the left for anti-semetic comments
NO transparency as promised
NO lack of pandering to the progressive left
NO good solutions for Iran
NO ability to stop foreign hacking
NO clamping down on big tech power
NO having to reverse course on the Covid source investigations because they acted like children to spite Trump..........oh wait YES, that did happen.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 11:57:41 AM
Only in your little pea brain. That “laughing stock” kept us out wars for four years. This asshole gets in and within the first 2 months he’s being tested by every country Trump dealt with and now on the brink of war because China owns him and he’s a weak guy....not to mention giving $250mil to Hamas (terrorists). Fuck off commie

The laughing stock kept idiots like you in emotional delusions the entire four years.  Not that you needed any help.  You have been regarded the dumbest poster here long before that.   Trumpy was nothing but a pussy ass coward hiding behind Twitter the entire four years and he doesn't even have that anymore. 

Fuck off retard.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 05, 2021, 12:03:38 PM
The laughing stock kept idiots like you in emotional delusions the entire four years.  Not that you needed any help.  You have been regarded the dumbest poster here long before that.   Trumpy was nothing but a pussy ass coward hiding behind Twitter the entire four years and he doesn't even have that anymore. 

Fuck off retard.


Your Strawman account usually calls names and melts, did you forget to log in?  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 12:41:50 PM

Your Strawman account usually calls names and melts, did you forget to log in?  ;D

If that’s what you like to think.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 05, 2021, 01:11:47 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)   isn't nice to have a president that doesn't constantly tweet insane shit at 3 am due to another bout of diarrhea from his unhealthy diet.

He forgot "No brain"

He's jus a carcass at this point. He and ole Cornpop fighting w/ razors and chains.
nah, he would never spiel nonsense.  ::)



Trump may be tapped, but this guy is jus brainless. He (Prv) has a stellar 50 years in Gov't.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 05, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Nations in Action published a press release on Jan. 6 2021 pertaining to yet another conspiracy theory know as, ItalyGate, which claims an employee, Arturo D’Elia of the Italian defense, security and aerospace company Leonardo SpA, interfered in the election to secure Joe Biden’s victory by using Leonardo computer systems and military satellites located in Pescara, Italy” to interfere in the U.S. election. Maria Strollo Zack, Nations in Action chair as saying, “Make no mistake, this is a coup d’etat that we will stop in the name of justice and free and fair elections.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/08/fact-check-italygate-claims-electoral-fraud-rome-baseless/6567335002/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 05, 2021, 02:38:28 PM
Also:

NO uniting the county as promised
NO attempts at bipartisanship
NO tough questions from the media
NO exoneration of the Hunter Biden situation
NO solution the self created border crisis
NO lack of blaming the prior admin (despite the ironic "no blaming" in the graphic)
NO censorship of the left for anti-semetic comments
NO transparency as promised
NO lack of pandering to the progressive left
NO good solutions for Iran
NO ability to stop foreign hacking
NO clamping down on big tech power
NO having to reverse course on the Covid source investigations because they acted like children to spite Trump..........oh wait YES, that did happen.
    all those things apply to trump, not super joe biden the greatest president in our lifetime.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
    all those things apply to trump, not super joe biden the greatest president in our lifetime.

You're 70. You shouldn't lie or troll
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 02:48:23 PM
Are you afraid to say it because it might not happen? You know, the August coup d'état. Have you been partying and chatting it up with Sidney Powell, Michael Flynn, Michael J. Lindell (put your head on my pillow 🎵🎵🎵), Kevin McCarthy, Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt Gaetz, Rudy Giuliani, Roseanne Barr, James Woods, Pete Evans, Donald Trump and other of your QAnon friends lately?

Pay attention, liar. I never said it would get over turned no matter what. Why is it near impossible to find an honest liberal?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 05, 2021, 03:01:42 PM
You're 70. You shouldn't lie or troll
       
&t=86s                 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 03:27:21 PM
Nearly 60 percent of the people faced with charges for the Capitol riot had previous money difficulties, including bankruptcies, unpaid tax bills and other debts, lawsuits involving unpaid debts or notices of eviction or foreclosure.

Proud Boy turns out to be nothing more than a big ass whiner.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/27/2032422/-Proud-Boy-tries-to-downplay-role-in-Jan-6-riots-mourns-loss-of-government-benefits-while-in-jail

How's those Republican trickle down economics working out for you retards?  This is the group that is suppose to overthrow the gov't and win a civil war, but yet can't balance a check book.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 05, 2021, 04:14:56 PM
Just curious, when you and Coach are shedding your tears of impotent rage, do you both keep your heads up Trumpys ass or do you take turns?
We would take turns obviously, both of our heads wouldn't fit with all the space strawman and you take up in there. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 05, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
OrangeMan, cuckoo, cuckoo.

Joe = PervTard. Who wins?
Not the people, thats for sure. Especially these days with ole CornPop and people and leaders like Trudeau, Newson, places like CHI, MINN, OR, NJ, NY.

"Corn Pop was a bad dude"  LOL   ::)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 04:51:11 PM
Nearly 60 percent of the people faced with charges for the Capitol riot had previous money difficulties, including bankruptcies, unpaid tax bills and other debts, lawsuits involving unpaid debts or notices of eviction or foreclosure.

Proud Boy turns out to be nothing more than a big ass whiner.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/27/2032422/-Proud-Boy-tries-to-downplay-role-in-Jan-6-riots-mourns-loss-of-government-benefits-while-in-jail

How's those Republican trickle down economics working out for you retards?  This is the group that is suppose to overthrow the gov't and win a civil war, but yet can't balance a check book.

Daily kos 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 05, 2021, 04:55:08 PM
Nearly 60 percent of the people faced with charges for the Capitol riot had previous money difficulties, including bankruptcies, unpaid tax bills and other debts, lawsuits involving unpaid debts or notices of eviction or foreclosure.

Proud Boy turns out to be nothing more than a big ass whiner.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/27/2032422/-Proud-Boy-tries-to-downplay-role-in-Jan-6-riots-mourns-loss-of-government-benefits-while-in-jail

How's those Republican trickle down economics working out for you retards?  This is the group that is suppose to overthrow the gov't and win a civil war, but yet can't balance a check book.
What kind of weirdo, freak, obsessed psycho looks up this kind of info just to find a correlation between people? And what kind of left wing dingbat clings to this kind of information to stereotype a group of people?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:25:13 PM
We would take turns obviously, both of our heads wouldn't fit with all the space strawman and you take up in there. ::)

But that conehead of yours makes entry for you easier.  Like a butt plug.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:26:11 PM
What kind of weirdo, freak, obsessed psycho looks up this kind of info just to find a correlation between people? And what kind of left wing dingbat clings to this kind of information to stereotype a group of people?

Which are you?   The bankruptcy kind or the disability kind?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:27:29 PM
Daily kos 😂


Can’t refute the message so you try to do so with source huh Mr. Epoch Times and Navarroreport?  Try again Fragile X.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 05:32:19 PM

Can’t refute the message so you try to do so with source huh Mr. Epoch Times and Navarroreport?  Try again Fragile X.

Hahahah...I wouldn’t know where to begin to look for ridiculous info like that. Sounds like another “anonymous sources say”

Sure, bring someone from the Daily Kos on here to refute the election. As a matter of fact bring anyone you want on here from the major networks to refute it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
Hahahah...I wouldn’t know where to begin to look for ridiculous info like that. Sounds like another “anonymous sources say”

Sure, bring someone from the Daily Kos on here to refute the election. As a matter of fact bring anyone you want on here from the major networks to refute it.

You are the king queen of ridiculous info.  Try again low IQ midget.  Or don’t try again. Seeing how you couldn’t refute it in your last two posts.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
You are the king queen of ridiculous info.  Try again low IQ midget.  Or don’t try again. Seeing how you couldn’t refute it in your last two posts.

Do you think you can actually refute ANYTHING I’ve posted in any thread? Serious question.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:49:21 PM
Do you think you can actually refute ANYTHING I’ve posted in any thread? Serious question.

I don’t have to.  Nor do I have to prove unicorns exist.  Basically the same thing with your dumb ass.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 05, 2021, 05:50:09 PM
Do you think you can actually refute ANYTHING I’ve posted in any thread? Serious question.

I don't think you can change that diaper of a mind this cretins have, Coach.  Liberals are the kind of folk that buy condoms on the way to a family reunion. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 05:55:42 PM
I don't think you can change that diaper of a mind this cretins have, Coach.  Liberals are the kind of folk that buy condoms on the way to a family reunion.

So did fear of losing your SSDI prevent your crippled ass from attending DC in Jan 6th or were you just a pussy?

Oh wait...  it involved stairs. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 05, 2021, 06:07:38 PM
So did fear of losing your SSDI prevent your crippled ass from attending DC in Jan 6th or were you just a pussy?

Oh wait...  it involved stairs.

I don't collect any such "benefit" and I am certain you know this and yet here we are again you beating your dead horse almost as much as your mother beats you off.  I was raised by my parents and our united family to eschew such things.  You know, you may not be such a bad person but you are also one hell of a fucktard and I find it difficult to do anything but tell you to fuck off.  I agree with some of your thoughts here in these forums and if and when I do, I may post as such. 

Now then.  FOAD.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 06:11:55 PM
I don't collect any such "benefit" and I am certain you know this and yet here we are again you beating your dead horse almost as much as your mother beats you off.  I was raised by my parents and our united family to eschew such things.  You know, you may not be such a bad person but you are also one hell of a fucktard and I find it difficult to do anything but tell you to fuck off.  I agree with some of your thoughts here in these forums and if and when I do, I may post as such. 

Now then.  FOAD.

No SSDI?   So your mommy changes your bedpan for free?  And then sticks you on the internet so she doesn’t have to babysit you all day.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 05, 2021, 06:17:18 PM
No SSDI?   So your mommy changes your bedpan for free?  And then sticks you on the internet so she doesn’t have to babysit you all day.

Sheesh...Having been in schooled in classes for slow children I never expected to really find one here.  I was wrong. You exhibit (that means, "display" or "show") many of the same traits as some of my old classmates from decades ago.  When your parents divorced did they still consider each other brother and sister because you really do behave as some mongoloids with slightly higher function did.  Not kidding here, ace.  You are fucked and when I say "fucked" I do not mean the kind with the happy (in your case "fappy") ending.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 06:26:12 PM
I don’t have to.  Nor do I have to prove unicorns exist.  Basically the same thing with your dumb ass.

You can’t. You post one friggen that really has nothing to do with anything and you think it must be true. I’ve posted hundreds of sources backing mine without  “anonymous sources say” yet you think you’ve proven something...fuck you’re a moron
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 06:28:19 PM
Sheesh...Having been in schooled in classes for slow children I never expected to really find one here.  I was wrong. You exhibit (that means, "display" or "show") many of the same traits as some of my old classmates from decades ago.  When your parents divorced did they still consider each other brother and sister because you really do behave as some mongoloids with slightly higher function did.  Not kidding here, ace.  You are fucked and when I say "fucked" I do not mean the kind with the happy (in your case "fappy") ending.

Why would anyone care what someone with an admittedly deformed skull and brain trauma thinks?  Watching normal life pass you by must suck.   

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 06:29:09 PM
You can’t. You post one friggen that really has nothing to do with anything and you think it must be true. I’ve posted hundreds of sources backing mine without  “anonymous sources say” yet you think you’ve proven something...fuck you’re a moron

Sure you have Birther.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 06:39:24 PM
Sure you have Birther.

You’re a fucking child trying to debate with memes. Don’t get me wrong, memes are fine as you can back it. You can’t
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 05, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
You’re a fucking child trying to debate with memes. Don’t get me wrong, memes are fine as you can back it. You can’t

Memes are above the level of Trumpturds anyway. 

How’s that PizzaGate going?  Hillary still going to jail?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2021, 07:02:40 PM
Memes are above the level of Trumpturds anyway. 

How’s that PizzaGate going?  Hillary still going to jail?

Why do you keep coming back and trolling me only to have me kick you in the nuts....again?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 07:37:17 AM
Why do you keep coming back and trolling me only to have me kick you in the nuts....again?

You haven't yet, you are just stupid enough to think you have.  It's a brand new day, Biden's still President, Trumpy's still whining, and you are still stupid.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 08:42:14 AM
You haven't yet, you are just stupid enough to think you have.  It's a brand new day, Biden's still President, Trumpy's still whining, and you are still stupid.

.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 10:02:24 AM
Do you think you live through the entire  Biden term?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 06, 2021, 10:27:17 AM
Pay attention, liar. I never said it would get over turned no matter what. Why is it near impossible to find an honest liberal?

Huh? What post are you responding to? Nowhere did I write that you said it (the election) would get overturned no matter what. Where is the lie? Are you responding to me or someone else?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 06, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
Let’s get to 100 pages.    Is the trash cleaned up yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 06, 2021, 11:13:12 AM
Let’s get to 100 pages.    Is the trash cleaned up yet ?

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Oj7yTCLSZjSt2JMwi2/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b9526444b6cd71ae09f25b5232766ff77be03f0d4cc0&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 06, 2021, 11:42:11 AM
Do you think you live through the entire  Biden term?
You guys haven't gotten over Trump yet. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 06, 2021, 11:55:59 AM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Oj7yTCLSZjSt2JMwi2/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b9526444b6cd71ae09f25b5232766ff77be03f0d4cc0&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
Do you think you live through the entire  Biden term?

Let’s see. Open borders with Chinavirus infected illegals, child traffickers, terrorists, gang members coming across while at the same time making attempts at gun confiscation under the guise of “mass shootings”. We’re already on the brink of war with China who’s threatening us with nuclear weapons because he’s weak because he and his crackhead son are in bed with them. Thanks to him, he’s trying to make our military into a “woke” sissy military. Sucks the dicks of BLM and Antifa that still burn, loot and destroy cities everyday...I could go on but there’s only so much bandwidth

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 06, 2021, 01:18:35 PM
You guys haven't gotten over Trump yet. ;D
   
      sadly, I don't think the whole country will.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 01:19:49 PM
Let’s see. Open borders with Chinavirus infected illegals, child traffickers, terrorists, gang members coming across while at the same time making attempts at gun confiscation under the guise of “mass shootings”. We’re already on the brink of war with China who’s threatening us with nuclear weapons because he’s weak because he and his crackhead son are in bed with them. Thanks to him, he’s trying to make our military into a “woke” sissy military. Sucks the dicks of BLM and Antifa that still burn, loot and destroy cities everyday...I could go on but there’s only so much bandwidth

Brutal coping mechanisms.   Do you think you live to see the end of Biden’s term?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 01:26:39 PM
Brutal coping mechanisms.   Do you think you live to see the end of Biden’s term?

I’ll outlive both you and him. Don’t let those facts hit you in the ass
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 02:28:50 PM
I’ll outlive both you and him. Don’t let those facts hit you in the ass

Sure?   Heart attack, stroke and high BP over Trumpy losing isn’t a good combination.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
Sure?   Heart attack, stroke and high BP over Trumpy losing isn’t a good combination.

I don’t have any of that. Carry-on little man
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 02:40:02 PM
I don’t have any of that. Carry-on little man

You sure?   Delusions are a terrible thing. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
You sure?   Delusions are a terrible thing.

I’m positive
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 03:33:58 PM
I’m positive

Well damn, looks like we will see you trotting out delusional shit everyday then.   What a miserable life that must be.   Is that why Trumpy wore his pants backwards?  Putting the zipper in the rear helps facilitate Trumpturds like you inserting their head in his ass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 03:42:32 PM
Well damn, looks like we will see you trotting out delusional shit everyday then.   What a miserable life that must be.   Is that why Trumpy wore his pants backwards?  Putting the zipper in the rear helps facilitate Trumpturds like you inserting their head in his ass.

Take a break Strawman. You trolling me is creepy. You, lurker, Prime or Funk will never win an argument or debate...ever and you’ll stay hidden behind your keyboards talking shit. Communists should be first to go...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 06, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
Take a break Strawman. You trolling me is creepy. You, lurker, Prime or Funk will never win an argument or debate...ever and you’ll stay hidden behind your keyboards talking shit. Communists should be first to go...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 06, 2021, 04:34:54 PM
Getbiggers be like:

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 07, 2021, 01:11:37 AM
Take a break Strawman. You trolling me is creepy. You, lurker, Prime or Funk will never win an argument or debate...ever and you’ll stay hidden behind your keyboards talking shit. Communists should be first to go...

Hell yes !.

10 more days to Putin - Biden summit  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 04:37:46 AM
Getbiggers be like:
   good point. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 07, 2021, 05:29:14 AM
Getbiggers be like:
He should have his laptop with him in bed posting up until death.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 07:11:36 AM
He should have his laptop with him in bed posting up until death.
   better than joltin joe dimaggio, they were shoving stuff into his hands to sign right up to the last minute of his life.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 07, 2021, 10:49:35 AM

Canada probably would have a wall if bordering Mexico...but they are bordering the USA so that example is nonsense. It's like having a cop as your next door neighbor.

My point is that is so easy to get into the USA then the 12 million illegals here are now in a country bordering Canada.  But they are not flocking over to the socialism utopia are they?  Why? because they are easily employed here.

Quote
Millions of people not paying into the system but taking from it is not worth "keeping prices down"....if that even is the case...in which I would have to see it.

I just telling why no side is really doing anything productive about it.  Prices for produce to begin with.

Quote
Not giving them rights sounds like you want a slave class? Interesting...

Nope, please don't attempt to put words in my mouth lol. 

Quote
Things were better under Trump for those that were doing the deal already..working, paying their bills, etc. Vastly better for small businesses. Those who were waiting for free and easy were a bit worse off...maybe...but guess who pays for all this? The first group....again, where are the getbig libs explaining the dem party platform as it benefits middle class people - who are voting themselves out of the middle class?

No, they weren't.  Things were still shit then.  As I said, nothing really changed much.  Like democrats, someone got into the white house that pandered to your views.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 10:53:39 AM
   
     on and on ... to page 80.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 07, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
Let’s start page 80 off right...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 07, 2021, 11:30:36 AM
Let’s start page 80 off right...

How was Trumpy greeted?  Oh with laughter and baby blimp of him flying around.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 11:42:31 AM
 
     boo hoo hoo he feels unwelcomed. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 12:04:58 PM
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 12:18:36 PM
       
                                                      ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 07, 2021, 12:26:27 PM
Ok times up - is the trash heap cleaned up yet? 



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 12:40:14 PM
Ok times up - is the trash heap cleaned up yet? 


     
   
     
     
                                                                  good stuff important to know.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 01:08:35 PM
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 07, 2021, 02:52:41 PM
   




OLD CRIPLE funk41 is dreaming .................
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 07, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
   


Hahaha..funk still playing on debunked “smoking gun” 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 07, 2021, 03:01:52 PM
How was Trumpy greeted?  Oh with laughter and baby blimp of him flying around.


BoB2 = BOOOOORRRIIIING  :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 07, 2021, 03:05:54 PM
      boo hoo hoo he feels unwelcomed. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Mr.Grim Reaper is asking 4 your address  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 03:39:42 PM
Mr.Grim Reaper is asking 4 your address  ;D
   wishing me dead eh, I hear karma's a bitch. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on June 07, 2021, 03:40:37 PM
   


If he would've pulled a Fredo with those two, I'd have voted for him. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 04:12:51 PM


OLD CRIPLE funk41 is dreaming .................
                     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 04:32:19 PM
Pete Buttigieg Mops The Floor With Republicans During CBS Interview
By Caleb Newton -June 6, 2021
During an appearance on CBS’s Face The Nation on Sunday, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg outlined the imperative need behind the Biden administration’s push for an ambitious federal infrastructure spending plan. In so doing, Buttigieg expertly dismantled arguments from Republicans who have claimed that the Biden administration’s proposals aren’t needed. As Buttigieg put it, discussing the infrastructure spending negotiations, the issue is “not just about getting through this season.” Rather, he noted, it’s “about making sure that America wins the future.”




Buttigieg also called out Republican obstruction, saying that he thinks “it’s gonna be tough for this country to understand why Republicans would filibuster a good infrastructure bill.” As Buttigieg put it at first:

‘THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING THROUGH THIS SEASON OR SOME KIND OF SHORT-TERM STIMULUS. THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT AMERICA WINS THE FUTURE AT A TIME WHEN OUR COMPETITORS, LIKE CHINA, AND OUR ALLIES, ARE INVESTING MUCH MORE, FRANKLY, IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAN WE ARE. THAT’S WHY IT CALLS FOR SUCH A BIG STEP.’

Watch Buttigieg’s remarks below:



Buttigieg also provided a generally optimistic perspective on the progress of negotiations. There’s an option for Democrats to try and pass something through a procedural move called budget reconciliation, which would require a simple majority in the Senate and is how this year’s COVID-19 relief package got enacted, but as Buttigieg noted, there’s still a need to ensure that the Senate’s Democratic members (including conservatively minded figures like Sens. Krysten Sinema (Ariz.) and Joe Manchin (W.Va.)) are on board.



Buttigieg commented as follows:

‘THERE ARE 50 DEMOCRATIC SENATORS WHO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. YOU CAN’T SIMPLY ASSUME THAT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO COME ON BOARD WITH SOMETHING UNLESS WE WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER. THAT’S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC SENATORS IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE’RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT’S GONNA BE TOUGH FOR THIS COUNTRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY REPUBLICANS WOULD FILIBUSTER A GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. BUT WE WANNA GET THERE IN A BETTER WAY THAN WHAT’S HAPPENED TO A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE JUST GOTTEN COMPLETELY STUCK.’


Watch Buttigieg’s comments below:
   YA GOTTA LOVE OLD BUTTPLUG.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
 
     80 let's go
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 07, 2021, 05:39:59 PM
Ok times up - is the trash heap cleaned up yet? 


That heap has spread across funks yard and the neighborhood kids are climbing on it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 07, 2021, 06:57:52 PM
   wishing me dead eh, I hear karma's a bitch. ;) ;) ;) ;)


Nah, only another 5 or 6 hips replacements  ;D

& NO Kamala cookies for you !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 08, 2021, 04:52:59 AM

Nah, only another 5 or 6 hips replacements  ;D

& NO Kamala cookies for you !.
              alright then, I could live with that. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 08, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
   
   
   
   slow day today. page 81 will be a reach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 08, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar, nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing eachother.
Red believes that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.
The same is true in society.
Men vs Women
Black vs White
Faith vs Science
Young vs Old
Etc ...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves:
Who shook the jar?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 08, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar, nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing eachother.
Red believes that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.
The same is true in society.
Men vs Women
Black vs White
Faith vs Science
Young vs Old
Etc ...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves:
Who shook the jar?

I like it...Woke-Media is the lying enemy to all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 08, 2021, 01:52:43 PM
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar, nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing eachother.
Red believes that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.
The same is true in society.
Men vs Women
Black vs White
Faith vs Science
Young vs Old
Etc ...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves:
Who shook the jar?

Beautiful analogy. It also might be worthwhile to as not just who shook it but also why they shook it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 08, 2021, 01:55:38 PM
I like it...Woke-Media is the lying enemy to all.

Lying or maybe cherry picking. Either way, media is often the instigator. We're being played....all of us....not just one side or the other.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 08, 2021, 02:26:20 PM
Lying or maybe cherry picking. Either way, media is often the instigator. We're being played....all of us....not just one side or the other.

Yup, truth ^^
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 08, 2021, 05:22:46 PM
Hahahahahahah...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 08, 2021, 05:59:50 PM
Lying or maybe cherry picking. Either way, media is often the instigator. We're being played....all of us....not just one side or the other.


Rubbish, YOU have been bullshited by them  ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 08, 2021, 06:02:35 PM
Hahahahahahah...

"Great" numbers for a population of 330 millions  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 08, 2021, 08:34:41 PM
"Great" numbers for a population of 330 millions  :D

And the 80 million that “voted” for him 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 08, 2021, 08:47:22 PM
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar, nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing eachother.
Red believes that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.
The same is true in society.
Men vs Women
Black vs White
Faith vs Science
Young vs Old
Etc ...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves:
Who shook the jar?


What you post says you don't really want to know the answer to that question.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 08, 2021, 09:34:00 PM
And the 80 million that “voted” for him 😂


Remember all the times they stopped counting ballots on election night and all the news outlets just went off the air totally uninterested in why?

Oh, that only happened once? Hmmmm
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 09, 2021, 02:29:14 AM
Hahahahahahah...

They don't even bother trying to hide "lying" anymore.
Blatant retardism.

Govt  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 06:27:18 AM
"HAHAHAHAHAA" thinking the election was stolen and yet have no proof.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 06:29:00 AM
&t=84s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 06:49:10 AM
does trump wear a diaper. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 06:51:04 AM
"HAHAHAHAHAA" thinking the election was stolen and yet have no proof.
             
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 07:21:52 AM
I thought he was the perfect specimen.  239lbs in excellent health. 


 ???


BWAHAHHAHAHAAAA
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 09, 2021, 07:23:24 AM
does trump wear a diaper. ::) ::) ::) ::)

He may, he is full of shite, BUT, he doesn't perv on kids, or rape his own daughter, and what a pre-Fake-COVE economy we had!
So, still a win over current Zombie.  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: OzmO on June 09, 2021, 08:01:01 AM
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar, nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing eachother.
Red believes that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.
The same is true in society.
Men vs Women
Black vs White
Faith vs Science
Young vs Old
Etc ...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves:
Who shook the jar?

This.

I think most of us can agree we are far from the representative government our forefathers envisioned.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 08:04:17 AM
This.

I think most of us can agree we are far from the representative government our forefathers envisioned.

Yet our forefathers had the foresight to put in place mechanisms for things that are happening to this day. One side for the most part, honors it, the other side blatantly ignores it or tried to change it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 08:11:15 AM
Yet our forefathers had the foresight to put in place mechanisms for things that are happening to this day. One side for the most part, honors it, the other side blatantly ignores it or tried to change it

Agreed.  Let's get back to what our Founders created which means we need to get rid of the filibuster.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 09, 2021, 09:12:53 AM
Agreed.  Let's get back to what our Founders created which means we need to get rid of the filibuster.


Ok - and direct election of senators, lol. Oh yeah, and women's right to vote. And the income tax! We are finally on the same page.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 09:24:34 AM

Ok - and direct election of senators, lol. Oh yeah, and women's right to vote. And the income tax! We are finally on the same page.

do you want to bring back slavery too

You do realize that the filibuster was created by a Senate rule change and nothing more

The direct election of Senators is the 17th amendment to The Constitution

No comparison to the filibuster

how about we just make Senators who want to filibuster actually have to filibuster

There was recently a vote in the Senate

The vote tally was 54-35

The side with 35 won

The Senate is allegedly evenly divided yet the Dems actually represent ~ 45 million more voters....and that's when the vote is 50-50.

How few voters were represented by the 35 who "won" the vote ?

AT THE VERY LEAST these Senators should actually have to filibuster rather than just opposing a vote and then taking a vacation to Cancun

Here is the bottom line for me

I KNOW that Republicans will get rid of the filibuster as soon as it serves their purpose

The Dems will just stand there dumbfounded....again..  watching people like Lindsey Graham or Mitch McConnell suddenly be in favor of the thing they just opposed

Their words MEAN NOTHING



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 09, 2021, 10:53:16 AM

Ok - and direct election of senators, lol. Oh yeah, and women's right to vote. And the income tax! We are finally on the same page.



...and "equal opportunity" and cradle to grave welfare/housing.

Also no illegals voting or having driver's licenses.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 11:01:45 AM


...and "equal opportunity" and cradle to grave welfare/housing.

Also no illegals voting or having driver's licenses.

illegals can't vote dipshit

and none of those things you mentioned have anything to do with the fact that a tiny minority essentially controls all legislation in this counry CONTRARY to The Constition

Again, if the tables were turned The Republicans would shit can the filibuster in a heartbeat and never look back

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 11:10:08 AM
illegals can't vote dipshit

and none of those things you mentioned have anything to do with the fact that a tiny minority essentially controls all legislation in this counry CONTRARY to The Constition

Again, if the tables were turned The Republicans would shit can the filibuster in a heartbeat and never look back

Not supposed to but they do. Do you actually think what the left is doing as far as  immigration, sanctuary cities, benefits to illegals, etc are for humanitarian purposes? Fuck no. They couldn’t give two shits as long they can get in. Why the hell do you think they want no voter ID?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 11:12:14 AM
I thought he was the perfect specimen.  239lbs in excellent health. 


 ???


BWAHAHHAHAHAAAA
               
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 09, 2021, 11:16:30 AM
illegals can't vote dipshit

and none of those things you mentioned have anything to do with the fact that a tiny minority essentially controls all legislation in this counry CONTRARY to The Constition

Again, if the tables were turned The Republicans would shit can the filibuster in a heartbeat and never look back

Its FNG Wednesday damnit!     Did you clean up the pig sty and mess yet?   The neighbors are even contacting the mods of GB for an answer .    :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 09, 2021, 11:21:24 AM
illegals can't vote dipshit

and none of those things you mentioned have anything to do with the fact that a tiny minority essentially controls all legislation in this counry CONTRARY to The Constition

Again, if the tables were turned The Republicans would shit can the filibuster in a heartbeat and never look back


Ah, name calling.

You understand your party is socialist, both economically and socially but you don't want a concentration of wealth and power? It's the primary goal of the left, they aren't hiding it.

You never defend the platform. I've asked multiple times and now it seems you just don't understand how left the dem party has gone. Sad, ignorant stuff.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 09, 2021, 11:21:55 AM
Its FNG Wednesday damnit!     Did you clean up the pig sty and mess yet?   The neighbors are even contacting the mods of GB for an answer .    :D



Gas is too high to fill up the lawnmower and blower.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 11:25:27 AM
Not supposed to but they do. Do you actually think what the left is doing as far as  immigration, sanctuary cities, benefits to illegals, etc are for humanitarian purposes? Fuck no. They couldn’t give two shits as long they can get in. Why the hell do you think they want no voter ID?

NO THEY DON'T

just because you imagine and really really believe something doesn't make it a reality

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 09, 2021, 11:27:01 AM


Gas is too high to fill up the lawnmower and blower.  ;D

The Gas is just too damn high! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 09, 2021, 11:38:11 AM
I would recommend any democrat that owns much to get involved in your party and see what the people in your party under 30 believe.

One thing I can assure you of is that in the top 5 things they "stand for" will not be the Constitution or limiting centralized power.

There is a reason that Bernie, AOC, Beto, Omar, etc...have all the energy of the party. It's a radical left movement. You either understand and accept that or continue to be a fool and think this is the same party of the 70s.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2021, 11:50:08 AM

Rubbish, YOU have been bullshited by them  ;D

Ha, ha....you are so accustomed to being contrary that even when we agree you think we don't. Cherry picked, lied = bullshitted. They all mean pretty much the same thing. It's cool, but it is also rather humorous.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:02:16 PM
He may, he is full of shite, BUT, he doesn't perv on kids, or rape his own daughter, and what a pre-Fake-COVE economy we had!
So, still a win over current Zombie.  8)
   Donald Trump setback in rape defamation case
Published27 October 2020
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A US federal judge has dismissed an effort by the Department of Justice (DoJ) to defend President Donald Trump in a case brought by a woman who accuses him of raping her.

Columnist E Jean Carroll accuses Mr Trump of assaulting her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s.

In a lawsuit, she argues the president defamed her when he denied her claim and said she was "totally lying".

The DoJ had sought to put itself in the dock as defendant, instead of Mr Trump.

Citing a law designed to protect federal employees from being sued over actions stemming from the performance of their duties, the department argued that he was serving in his capacity as president when he denied Ms Carroll's allegation.

What did the judge say?
But Judge Lewis Kaplan of the Federal District Court in Manhattan argued that the US president was not an "employee" within the meaning of that law - the Tort Claims Act.

Mr Trump's critics say that during his presidency he has compromised the DoJ, which is meant to operate independently of the White House.

The case was filed in New York state court in November 2019 and Mr Trump was represented by his personal lawyer Marc Kasowitz.

The sexual allegations against Donald Trump
The DoJ had raised this to a federal court level, where the case would pit Ms Carroll against the US government - not Mr Trump as a private citizen.

Experts say the move would have brought the lawsuit to an end as the federal government cannot be sued for defamation.

Judge Kaplan's ruling means the original case can go ahead.


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In a 61-page ruling, Judge Kaplan said Mr Trump's comments "concerned an alleged sexual assault that took place several decades before he took office, and the allegations have no relationship to the official business of the United States".




How did E Jean Carroll respond?
Ms Carroll - who was an advice columnist for Elle magazine - said in a statement: "When Donald Trump called me a liar and denied that he had ever met me, he was not speaking on behalf of the United States. I am happy that Judge Kaplan recognised these basic truths."

Her lawyer Roberta Kaplan said the case would now be pursued in a federal court, adding: "That brutal, personal attack cannot be attributed to the Office of the President."

Ms Carroll's legal team has asked the president to provide a DNA sample so they can determine whether his genetic material is on a black Donna Karan dress that she says she was wearing at the time of the alleged assault.

What does E Jean Carroll allege?
She says the attack happened at a Bergdorf Goodman store in Midtown Manhattan in late 1995 or early 1996, when the pair bumped into each other while shopping.

The former Apprentice star and real estate magnate allegedly asked her for advice when buying lingerie for another woman and jokingly asked her to model it for him.

In the changing rooms, she said Mr Trump lunged at her, pinned her against a wall and forced himself on her.

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Ms Carroll claims she managed to push him off after a "colossal struggle".

Both Mr Trump and Ms Carroll were aged around 50 at the time, and he was married to Marla Maples.

Mr Trump has publicly denied the allegation several times, including saying that Ms Carroll was "totally lying" and "not my type".

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Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:03:26 PM
   Donald Trump setback in rape defamation case
Published27 October 2020
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E. Jean Carroll departs from her hearing at federal court during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, U.S., October 21, 2020
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image captionE Jean Carroll said she was happy the judge had recognised some "basic truths"
A US federal judge has dismissed an effort by the Department of Justice (DoJ) to defend President Donald Trump in a case brought by a woman who accuses him of raping her.

Columnist E Jean Carroll accuses Mr Trump of assaulting her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s.

In a lawsuit, she argues the president defamed her when he denied her claim and said she was "totally lying".

The DoJ had sought to put itself in the dock as defendant, instead of Mr Trump.

Citing a law designed to protect federal employees from being sued over actions stemming from the performance of their duties, the department argued that he was serving in his capacity as president when he denied Ms Carroll's allegation.

What did the judge say?
But Judge Lewis Kaplan of the Federal District Court in Manhattan argued that the US president was not an "employee" within the meaning of that law - the Tort Claims Act.

Mr Trump's critics say that during his presidency he has compromised the DoJ, which is meant to operate independently of the White House.

The case was filed in New York state court in November 2019 and Mr Trump was represented by his personal lawyer Marc Kasowitz.

The sexual allegations against Donald Trump
The DoJ had raised this to a federal court level, where the case would pit Ms Carroll against the US government - not Mr Trump as a private citizen.

Experts say the move would have brought the lawsuit to an end as the federal government cannot be sued for defamation.

Judge Kaplan's ruling means the original case can go ahead.


media captionLife after #MeToo
In a 61-page ruling, Judge Kaplan said Mr Trump's comments "concerned an alleged sexual assault that took place several decades before he took office, and the allegations have no relationship to the official business of the United States".




How did E Jean Carroll respond?
Ms Carroll - who was an advice columnist for Elle magazine - said in a statement: "When Donald Trump called me a liar and denied that he had ever met me, he was not speaking on behalf of the United States. I am happy that Judge Kaplan recognised these basic truths."

Her lawyer Roberta Kaplan said the case would now be pursued in a federal court, adding: "That brutal, personal attack cannot be attributed to the Office of the President."

Ms Carroll's legal team has asked the president to provide a DNA sample so they can determine whether his genetic material is on a black Donna Karan dress that she says she was wearing at the time of the alleged assault.

What does E Jean Carroll allege?
She says the attack happened at a Bergdorf Goodman store in Midtown Manhattan in late 1995 or early 1996, when the pair bumped into each other while shopping.

The former Apprentice star and real estate magnate allegedly asked her for advice when buying lingerie for another woman and jokingly asked her to model it for him.

In the changing rooms, she said Mr Trump lunged at her, pinned her against a wall and forced himself on her.

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Ms Carroll claims she managed to push him off after a "colossal struggle".

Both Mr Trump and Ms Carroll were aged around 50 at the time, and he was married to Marla Maples.

Mr Trump has publicly denied the allegation several times, including saying that Ms Carroll was "totally lying" and "not my type".

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            What are the sexual allegations against Donald Trump?
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US President Donald Trump has been accused of inappropriate sexual behaviour and misconduct by multiple women whose allegations span decades.

His accusers, including beauty queens, models and political aides, have made allegations dating back to the 1980s.

During the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, Mr Trump faced a barrage of sexual misconduct claims, bringing his behaviour towards women into sharp focus.

Most accusers came forward after a now-infamous "sex boasts" recording from 2005 was leaked. In it, Mr Trump said celebrities such as him can "do anything" to women, including "grab them by the pussy".

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Since taking office, more women have gone public with allegations.

Mr Trump has strongly denied all the allegations against him, dismissing them as "fake news", political smears and conspiracies.

Below are most of the publicly known allegations against Mr Trump, and his responses to them.

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Claims: Ms Leeds, 74, from Manhattan, says Mr Trump groped her in the early 1980s, when she was sitting beside him in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York.

She told the New York Times in October 2016 that about 45 minutes after take-off, Mr Trump lifted the armrest and started groping her. She claims the business mogul grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.

She called the encounter "an assault", saying: "He was like an octopus. His hands were everywhere."

Ms Leeds, then 38, says she left her first-class seat and retreated to the standard-class cabin.

Ms Crooks, from Ohio, says Mr Trump kissed her on the cheeks and "directly on the mouth" when she introduced herself outside a lift in 2005. At the time Ms Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate firm based in Trump Tower.

She told the NYT: "I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that."

Trump's response: His lawyer sent a letter threatening to sue the NYT and calling the allegations "false and malicious".

"Clearly, The New York Times is willing to provide a platform to anyone wishing to smear Mr Trump's name and reputation," the letter says.

The NYT stands by the piece and calls it "public service journalism".

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Name: Mindy McGillivray
Claim: Ms McGillivray, 36, from California, says Donald Trump grabbed her backside at his Mar-a-Lago resort 13 years ago.

She told the Palm Beach Post that while she did not report the incident to police, she did tell her companion that day. Photographer Ken Davidoff, who Ms McGillivray was assisting, told the newspaper he recalled her pulling him aside and saying: ''Donald just grabbed my ass."

Ms McGillivray says she was standing next to Mr Trump and his then fiancee Melania when Mr Trump allegedly groped her.

Trump's response: Mr Trump's then press secretary, Hope Hicks, said: "There is no truth to this whatsoever. This allegation lacks any merit or veracity."

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Name: Natasha Stoynoff
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Claim: Former People Magazine writer Natasha Stoynoff, in a piece for the publication in October 2016, alleges Mr Trump pushed her against a wall and forced his tongue down her throat while she was at the Mar-a-Lago resort in 2005.

Ms Stoynoff claims the incident happened during a break while she was interviewing Mr Trump and his then pregnant wife Melania for a feature on their first year of marriage.

She says she was taken by surprise and that the alleged assault was interrupted when the resort's butler entered the room.

He later told her: "You know we're going to have an affair, don't you?"

She says she chose at the time not to report it because she felt ashamed and blamed herself for the incident.

Trump's response: A spokeswoman for the Trump presidential campaign said: "This has never happened. there is no merit or veracity to this fictional story. Why wasn't this reported at the time? Mr Trump was the biggest star on television and surely this would have been a far bigger scoop for People magazine. She alleges this took place in a public space with people around. This is nothing but politically motivated fictional pile-on."

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Cassandra Searles - beauty queen alleges Donald Trump repeatedly grabbed her backside, 2013
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Claim: Yahoo News reported in June 2016 on a Facebook post by Ms Searles, who participated in the Miss USA pageant, which was owned by Mr Trump from 2002 to 2015.

The 2013 Miss Washington tagged her fellow competitors on a picture of the women on stage with Mr Trump that was posted to the social network and wrote: "Do y'all remember that one time we had to do our onstage introductions, but this one guy treated us like cattle and made us do it again because we didn't look him in the eyes? Do you also remember when he then proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property?"

She also alleged that the presidential candidate continually grabbed her backside and invited her to his hotel room.

Trump's response: He has not directly responded to Ms Searles' claims.

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Jill Harth who alleges Donald Trump groped her, 28 March 2016
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Claim: Ms Harth told The Guardian in October 2016 that over the course of their acquaintance, Mr Trump leered at her, made inappropriate comments, groped her and eventually cornered her in a bedroom during a 1993 visit to Mar-a-Lago.

There, Ms Harth alleges "he pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again... I had to physically say: 'What are you doing? Stop it.'"

Ms Harth first spoke about some of her experiences with Mr Trump in a piece by the New York Times in May 2016 looking into his relationship with women.

In 1997, she filed a sexual assault lawsuit against Mr Trump, which she later dropped.

Trump's response: He has denied her claims and called them "meritless".

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Name: Jessica Drake
Claim: Mr Trump met the porn actress and sex educator 10 years ago at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, California, where he tried to persuade her to have sex, Ms Drake, 42, alleges.

Speaking at a news conference in Los Angeles, she said she went with two other women at Mr Trump's invitation to his hotel room. Mr Trump was wearing pyjamas when they arrived, she said.

The businessman "grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission".

After Ms Drake returned to her room, she says she received a phone call from a man, possibly Mr Trump, offering $10,000 (£8,200) if she went back to his suite. She could also use his private plane to fly to Los Angeles.

Trump's response: His campaign issued a statement saying: "This story is totally false and ridiculous." It went on: "Mr Trump does not know this person, does not remember this person and would have no interest in ever knowing her... this is just another attempt by the Clinton campaign to defame a candidate who just today is number one in three different polls."

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Names: Temple Taggart

Claim: Ms Taggart told the New York Times in May 2016 that as the 21-year-old Miss Utah in 1997, Mr Trump kissed her directly on the mouth without her consent.

"I remember feeling kind of embarrassed, like wanting to turn and wipe my mouth, like 'What just happened?'" she said.

They are also several other contestants from the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss USA Teen family of pageants - then owned by Mr Trump - that allege similar inappropriate conduct. Some of these claims were made anonymously.

Trump's response: Mr Trump denied Ms Taggart's claim, telling the newspaper he is reluctant to kiss strangers on the lips. He told NBC News he could not remember her.

Mr Trump's campaign did not respond directly to the other allegations.

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Name: Summer Zervos
Summer Zervos, former Apprentice participant, who accuses Donald Trump of inappropriate sexual conduct, 14 October 2016
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Claim: Ms Zervos, a former contestant on The Apprentice, said she was sexually assaulted by Mr Trump in 2007 after he invited her to discuss employment opportunities.

At a news conference, she said she had met him in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel where the businessman greeted her by kissing her on the mouth.

She described sitting next to him on a sofa where he "grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast".

Ms Zervos said he attempted to lead her into the bedroom and "began thrusting his genitals", but she rejected his advances.

He then began talking as if they were in a job interview, she added, and she was later offered a low-paying job at a golf course owned by Mr Trump.

Ms Zervos said she was a Republican.

Trump's response: Mr Trump's campaign said he "vaguely remembers" Ms Zervos, but insisted the meeting at the hotel didn't happen.

In a statement, he said: "The media is now creating a theatre of absurdity that threatens to tear our democratic process apart and poison the minds of the American public."

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Name: Kristin Anderson
Claim: Ms Anderson told the Washington Post in October 2016 that Mr Trump had reached up her skirt and groped her in a New York night club in the 1990s.

She immediately turned round to find a man sitting on a red velvet couch whom she recognised instantly as the celebrity property mogul.

Ms Anderson, who was working as a waitress at the time, said she was "very grossed out and weirded out".

"It wasn't a sexual come-on. I don't know why he did it. It was like just to prove that he could do it, and nothing would happen," she added.

The newspaper said it had approached Ms Anderson after learning of her story through a third party, and she had spent several days in deliberation before deciding to go public.

Trump's response: Hope Hicks, Mr Trump's spokeswoman, said in a statement emailed to the Washington Post: "Mr Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous."

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Name: Cathy Heller
Claim: Ms Heller told the Guardian in October 2016 that she had met Mr Trump briefly at a Mother's Day lunch in 1997 at Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate. She says she extended her hand to him for a handshake but he "grabbed" her to try and kiss her. When she leaned backwards to avoid him he said "come on" and ended up kissing the side of her mouth before walking away.

Ms Heller was a supporter of Hillary Clinton but her family and friends, including some who were present at the Mother's Day lunch, have come forward to back her story up.

Trump's response: Mr Trump's spokesman said in a statement: "There is no way that something like this could have happened in a public place on Mother's Day at Mr Trump's resort. It would have been the talk of Palm Beach for the past two decades."

He accused "the media" of "wheeling out a politically motivated Democratic activist" and said "anyone covering this story should be embarrassed for elevating this bogus claim".

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Name: Karena Virginia
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Claim: Ms Virginia, a yoga instructor and life coach, went public with her allegations at a press conference in October 2016.

She claims that, after leaving the US Open at Flushing Meadows, New York, in 1998, Mr Trump approached her with a group of men.

Making comments about her appearance, he said "Hey, look at this one" while walking behind her, Ms Virginia alleges. Mr Trump allegedly grabbed her by the arm and touched her breast.

When Ms Virginia recoiled, Mr Trump allegedly responded by asking her: "Don't you know who I am? Don't you know who I am?"

"I felt intimidated, and I felt powerless," Ms Virginia said. "I felt ashamed that I was wearing a short dress and high heels."

Mr Trump's response: Jessica Ditto, then his campaign spokeswoman, called the allegations "another co-ordinated, publicity-seeking attack", suggesting the Clinton campaign was involved.

"Voters are tired of these circus-like antics and reject these fictional stories and the clear efforts to benefit Hillary Clinton," she added.

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Ninni Laaksonen, former Miss Finland
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image captionNinni Laaksonen claims Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks
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Claim: Ms Laaksonen claims Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks before they appeared together on the Late Show with David Letterman on 26 July, 2006.

"Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt," she alleged in an interview with Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat.

The former Miss Finland told the paper she "flinched" when Mr Trump touched her.

Ms Laaksonen said somebody told her Mr Trump found her attractive because she reminded him of his wife Melania, whom he had married a year earlier.

"It left me disgusted," she said.

Mr Trump's response: Mr Trump does not appear to have responded directly to Ms Laaksonen's allegations. However, Mr Trump did address sexual misconduct allegations against him in general at the time her claims were published.

In an interview with Good Morning America, he said "the stories are all totally false" and threatened to sue his accusers.

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Name: Juliet Huddy
Claim: In December 2017, the former Fox News host claimed Mr Trump tried to kiss her in 2005 or 2006.

She claims he "leaned in to kiss me on the lips" when the pair said goodbye.

Ms Huddy said the incident, which happened in an elevator in Trump Tower, surprised her but did not make her feel threatened.

"It was a weird moment," she said on podcast Mornin!!! With Bill Schulz. "He never tried anything after that, and I was never alone with him."

Mr Trump's response: He has not directly responded to Ms Huddy's claims.

When appearing on Ms Huddy's show, however, she alleges that Mr Trump later joked about the incident, saying: "I tried hitting on her but she blew me off."

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Alva Johnson
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image captionMs Johnson filed a lawsuit against Mr Trump accusing him of kissing her without her consent
Claim: A former staffer for Mr Trump's campaign, Ms Johnson claims the then-candidate tried to forcibly kiss her after a rally in August 2016.

When she filed the suit in February 2019, she told the Washington Post she "felt violated because I wasn't expecting it or wanting it".

"I can still see his lips coming straight for my face," she added.

A federal court in Florida threw her case out in June 2019. Judge William Jung ruled that her claim - which included details of 19 other alleged incidents of sexual misconduct by Mr Trump - amounted to no more than a political statement.

Mr Trump's response: Mr Trump and the White House denied Ms Johnson's allegations.

Then White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said the allegation was "absurd on its face", adding: "This never happened and is directly contradicted by multiple highly credible eyewitness accounts."

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E. Jean Carroll attending an event in 2015
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image captionE. Jean Carroll - seen here at an event in 2015 - has made the allegation in an article
Claim: Ms Carroll claims Mr Trump sexually assaulted her at a Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan, New York in late 1995 or early 1996.

The former Apprentice star allegedly asked her for advice when buying lingerie for another woman and jokingly asked her to model it for him.

In the charging rooms, Mr Trump allegedly lunged at her, pinned her against a wall and forced himself on her.

Ms Carroll, whose "Ask E. Jean" column has appeared in Elle magazine since 1993, claims she managed to push him off after a "colossal struggle".

She made her allegations public in New York Magazine in June 2019.

Mr Trump's response: He accused Ms Carroll of "totally lying" about allegations.

"I'll say it with great respect: Number one, she's not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?" Mr Trump told The Hill.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
   
     
       this is as good as place as any for this nonsense.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:15:22 PM
     
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:20:55 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/06/09/donald-trump-jr-if-eric-or-i-used-n-word-like-hunter-biden-corporate-media-would-lose-their-damn-minds-they-are-100-silent-on-this/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 09, 2021, 12:28:58 PM
     
   


At least trump goes after hot women.   

Biden goes after children.   Obama went after men.  Michelle aka "Big Mike" after the cakes, donuts, shrimps, muffins, bagels, and anything else not nailed to the floor.   

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 12:31:04 PM
               


Trumpy looks like a fat Down's version of Brock Lesner there.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:31:48 PM
   
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:32:57 PM
Trumpy looks like a fat Down's version of Brock Lesner there.

But still the most powerful man in the country....deal with it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:35:55 PM
At least trump goes after hot women.   

Biden goes after children.   Obama went after men.  Michelle aka "Big Mike" after the cakes, donuts, shrimps, muffins, bagels, and anything else not nailed to the floor.
       
                   there's no evidence that joe biden is a pedophile but there's plenty that trump is a social deviant. so you approve of rape and incest.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:36:04 PM
My girl speaks up in this...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/09/racisthunter-catches-steam-hes-a-product-of-the-biden-family-household/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 12:37:22 PM
But still the most powerful man in the country....deal with it

The most powerful man that can't even own a social media account, multiple investigations underway, spends all day whining about the Big Lie, and has a base of idiots like you....   yeah, right.   ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:39:01 PM
       
                   there's no evidence that joe biden is a pedophile but there's plenty that trump is a social deviant. so you approve of rape and incest.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire...and the fact that Biden Sr. Knew about the Hunters videos with him having sex with waaaaay under age girls makes it worse for him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:41:44 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/09/racisthunter-catches-steam-hes-a-product-of-the-biden-family-household/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:42:17 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 12:42:37 PM
1/3 of Republicans say that Trumpy will be reinstated this year as President.  I'm surprised the number is that low considering the amount of dumbasses in the party.  Like this moron :

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dumbest-guy-congress-asks-u-175403496.html

‘The Dumbest Guy in Congress’ (Republican obviously) Asks U.S. Forest Service If It Can Change Moon’s Orbit.

At first I had to read the title again to make sure they were not talking about MTG... but it did say "guy", so whether he is smarter than she is can be debated.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
The most powerful man that can't even own a social media account, multiple investigations underway, spends all day whining about the Big Lie, and has a base of idiots like you....   yeah, right.   ::)

Whatever you say cupcake. It’s not like you haven’t been wrong 100% of the time
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 12:44:11 PM
1/3 of Republicans say that Trumpy will be reinstated this year as President.  I'm surprised the number is that low considering the amount of dumbasses in the party.  Like this moron :

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dumbest-guy-congress-asks-u-175403496.html

‘The Dumbest Guy in Congress’ (Republican obviously) Asks U.S. Forest Service If It Can Change Moon’s Orbit.

At first I had to read the title again to make sure they were not talking about MTG... but it did say "guy", so whether he is smarter than she is can be debated.

Irrelevant to anything....trying to post random bullshit to try to make whatever point your trying to make to the epitome TDS
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 09, 2021, 12:49:48 PM
1/3 of Republicans say that Trumpy will be reinstated this year as President.  I'm surprised the number is that low considering the amount of dumbasses in the party.  Like this moron :

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dumbest-guy-congress-asks-u-175403496.html

‘The Dumbest Guy in Congress’ (Republican obviously) Asks U.S. Forest Service If It Can Change Moon’s Orbit.

At first I had to read the title again to make sure they were not talking about MTG... but it did say "guy", so whether he is smarter than she is can be debated.

40% of libfags want to stay home for fear of Rona still. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:51:54 PM
   
   
   onto 83
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 09, 2021, 12:53:55 PM
40% of libfags want to stay home for fear of Rona still.
               
&t=45s    TRUTH
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 03:48:47 PM
Whatever you say cupcake. It’s not like you haven’t been wrong 100% of the time

Says the birther that believes in Pizzagate and covid assassinations.  You are so stupid you can't understand anything that is right.  That's why all your threads blow up in your face.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2021, 03:57:26 PM
Sidney Powell Just ‘Eviscerated’ Her Own Legal Defense.

I think she might have Alzheimer's. Nobody in their right mind can be this dumb, can they?

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/uLs2vZXqGQGMs13Cr4mGyQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTUzOS44OTc0MzU4OTc0MzU5/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/FwyB8rEJaInNjDKolaaCkQ--~B/aD02NTg7dz0xMTcwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/thedailybeast.com/6fad12396341b958f5197141ed9f22fc)

At a Dalas MAGA rally last month, Powell said, "I don’t think they realized that some of us litigators were going to catch on and hold their feet to the fire and expose what really happened or that they could shut us up by, say, suing me for 4.3 billion dollars in three different states,” Powell said at the panel discussion. “Threatening me is like waving a red flag in a bull’s face.” She went on to say, "We meant what we said and we have the evidence to back it up.” and  “....then we will get discovery against Dominion and we will be on offense,” she added.

Her stance—‘I can prove it’—is definitely inconsistent with her lawyers’ stance: “nobody would take it (she accused Dominion of fraud) as anything but opinion."

Sidney Powell tells court "no reasonable person" would take her voter fraud claims as fact.

She couldn’t help herself. And now, legal experts say, she may be in even more serious trouble.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 04:00:37 PM

I think she might have Alzheimer's. Nobody in their right mind can be this dumb, can they?


She's the female version of Coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2021, 04:02:57 PM
She's the female version of Coach.

Maybe, but Coach is better looking. (No Homo)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 09, 2021, 04:03:23 PM
Maybe, but Coach is better looking. (No Homo)

Outed.    :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 09, 2021, 05:42:26 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/09/racisthunter-catches-steam-hes-a-product-of-the-biden-family-household/

Racist crack addict who rapes under-age kids, hmm, nothing to see here (MSM).  ::)

Demtards->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif) <- School Childen
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 05:52:38 PM
Sidney Powell Just ‘Eviscerated’ Her Own Legal Defense.

I think she might have Alzheimer's. Nobody in their right mind can be this dumb, can they?

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/uLs2vZXqGQGMs13Cr4mGyQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTUzOS44OTc0MzU4OTc0MzU5/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/FwyB8rEJaInNjDKolaaCkQ--~B/aD02NTg7dz0xMTcwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/thedailybeast.com/6fad12396341b958f5197141ed9f22fc)

At a Dalas MAGA rally last month, Powell said, "I don’t think they realized that some of us litigators were going to catch on and hold their feet to the fire and expose what really happened or that they could shut us up by, say, suing me for 4.3 billion dollars in three different states,” Powell said at the panel discussion. “Threatening me is like waving a red flag in a bull’s face.” She went on to say, "We meant what we said and we have the evidence to back it up.” and  “....then we will get discovery against Dominion and we will be on offense,” she added.

Her stance—‘I can prove it’—is definitely inconsistent with her lawyers’ stance: “nobody would take it (she accused Dominion of fraud) as anything but opinion."

Sidney Powell tells court "no reasonable person" would take her voter fraud claims as fact.

She couldn’t help herself. And now, legal experts say, she may be in even more serious trouble.

And as usual no source link. And for the record along with Lurker both you and Strawman have also been wrong 100% of the time
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 09, 2021, 06:03:11 PM
funk51 taking over for the filthiest lawn on the block!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 06:08:01 PM
But still the most powerful man in the country....deal with it

You've made this claim multiple times

Each time I've asked you to provide examples and each time you've disappeared

Will you disappear again this time?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 06:15:41 PM
Maybe, but Coach is better looking. (No Homo)

WTF is up with you constantly sucking up to this idiot?

Seriously WTF?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 09, 2021, 06:16:37 PM
WTF is up with you constantly sucking up to this idiot?

Seriously WTF?
You upset he stopped sucking you off for a minute ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 06:17:18 PM
Racist crack addict who rapes under-age kids, hmm, nothing to see here (MSM).  ::)

Demtards->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif) <- School Childen

sounds like Republicans have found their next candidate for POTUS
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 09, 2021, 06:18:09 PM
You upset he stopped sucking you off for a minute ???

sounds more like you
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2021, 06:30:00 PM
Outed.    :D

Please don't tell Coach....it will ruin our relationship.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
And as usual no source link. And for the record along with Lurker both you and Strawman have also been wrong 100% of the time

You can look up a source.  Or not. Nobody cares if you do or don’t.  You wouldn’t understand it anyway.  If you could refute it or prove it wrong you would.  But you can’t.  So instead you worry about the “source” Mr Navarroreport.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 06:44:26 PM
Poor Trumpturds.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 07:16:39 PM
You can look up a source.  Or not. Nobody cares if you do or don’t.  You wouldn’t understand it anyway.  If you could refute it or prove it wrong you would.  But you can’t.  So instead you worry about the “source” Mr Navarroreport.

Stop making excuses lip Tarde he could’ve fucking  easily Put the link source in after He copied and pasted the article. Just like fucking liberals to be that goddamn lazy do you want everybody else to do your own work for you
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 09, 2021, 07:34:48 PM
Stop making excuses lip Tarde he could’ve fucking  easily Put the link source in after He copied and pasted the article. Just like fucking liberals to be that goddamn lazy do you want everybody else to do your own work for you

Is that so Mr. “I can’t reveal my sources”?

I busted your stupid ass trying to pass off bullshit info by omitting the source you copied it from after you lied and said “I can’t reveal my sources”.  Seeing how it was navarroreport it makes sense to be ashamed of it.  Dumb MF.

You stupid ass still hasn’t refuted or disproven the info anyway. Link or not. Because you can’t. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 09, 2021, 10:02:58 PM
What liberals arguing politics sounds like:

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 09, 2021, 10:59:42 PM
Is that so Mr. “I can’t reveal my sources”?

I busted your stupid ass trying to pass off bullshit info by omitting the source you copied it from after you lied and said “I can’t reveal my sources”.  Seeing how it was navarroreport it makes sense to be ashamed of it.  Dumb MF.

You stupid ass still hasn’t refuted or disproven the info anyway. Link or not. Because you can’t.

You dumb son of a bitch. The link was right there within the post of the document.....now, refute it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 04:55:21 AM
What liberals arguing politics sounds like:


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 10, 2021, 07:58:38 AM
You dumb son of a bitch. The link was right there within the post of the document.....now, refute it.

No it wasn't.   On that thread you trotted out a bullshit screen shot article in an effort to hide from it was from.  When asked about the source.  You refused to provide a link to your "source" but an easy search revealed it was a cut and paste hack from navarroreport.   

Your game consists of requesting source of information or attacking the source of information.  Because you are too stupid to actually refute or disprove any information.

When it comes to your stupidity, how much of it is Fragile X and how much is your own doing?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 07:59:38 AM
No it wasn't.   On that thread you trotted out a bullshit screen shot article in an effort to hide from it was from.  When asked about the source.  You refused to provide a link to your "source" but an easy search revealed it was a cut and paste hack from navarroreport.   

Your game consists of requesting source of information or attacking the source of information.  Because you are too stupid to actually refute or disprove any information.

When it comes to your stupidity, how much of it is Fragile X and how much is your own doing?

Another lazy ass libtard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 10, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Another lazy ass libtard

Another Fragile X excuse by stupid Coach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 08:52:25 AM
Another Fragile X excuse by stupid Coach.

Like I said....lazy

https://www.theblaze.com/news/employer-stopped-hiring-ivy-league-grads-too-woke
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 10, 2021, 08:53:57 AM
Like I said....lazy

https://www.theblaze.com/news/employer-stopped-hiring-ivy-league-grads-too-woke

That has nothing to do with what I posted.

Again, how much of your stupidity is from Fragile X and how much is your own doing?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 08:58:09 AM
83!   YES


The dump and toxic waste site might just get cleaned up before 2022 at this pace. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 09:25:41 AM
83!   YES


The dump and toxic waste site might just get cleaned up before 2022 at this pace.
   
   this might be a  big help to you mister soul crusher.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 09:28:54 AM
   
   this might be a  big help to you mister soul crusher.

I missed my shot.   I coulda been someone    :D



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
That has nothing to do with what I posted.

Again, how much of your stupidity is from Fragile X and how much is your own doing?

It actually does since you vote and support communism
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 09:46:04 AM
I missed my shot.   I coulda been someone    :D


;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 10:00:02 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 10, 2021, 10:21:50 AM
   

Nice video.  Danny is funny.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 10, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
It actually does since you vote and support communism

No it doesn't.  The fact you want it to only proves your stupidity.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 11:12:41 AM
   
    it's only funny till someone loses an eye.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2021, 11:18:22 AM
   
   this might be a  big help to you mister soul crusher.

I need one of those. Arthritis in the hands is a bitch.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 11:25:15 AM
I need one of those. Arthritis in the hands is a bitch.
    my grip isn't like it once was, i generally just use a rubber flexible disc to get a better grip on things. i have a set of heavy hand grippers  used to be able to close the 200's now can't even get the 100's anymore. set is from 100 lb to 350 lb strength. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2021, 11:33:40 AM
    my grip isn't like it once was, i generally just use a rubber flexible disc to get a better grip on things. i have a set of heavy hand grippers  used to be able to close the 200's now can't even get the 100's anymore. set is from 100 lb to 350 lb strength. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I have a ball that I squeeze to strengthen my hands. I think I may have tried the hand grips you posted in the past. I should get some. One of the gyms has a nautilus that has hand grips with adjustable tension, which I've used. The downside of these things is the hand pain later on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 11:57:08 AM
&t=159s   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 11:59:56 AM
No it doesn't.  The fact you want it to only proves your stupidity.

Hahahah...you haven’t been ready for prime time in this or any other thread related anything to politics for 12 years. The excuse “I don’t have to prove anything” speaks volumes...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 10, 2021, 12:36:40 PM
     i generally just use a rubber flexible dick to get a better grip on things.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 10, 2021, 12:38:26 PM
I have balls that I squeeze to strengthen my hands.


You old guys and your weird training methods.  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 12:44:05 PM
I have a ball that I squeeze to strengthen my hands. I think I may have tried the hand grips you posted in the past. I should get some. One of the gyms has a nautilus that has hand grips with adjustable tension, which I've used. The downside of these things is the hand pain later on.

If we did a Gofundme - and raised say $500 - would you drive south to help straw clean up the toxic dump that has become his yard?   We have been trying for weeks to help the neighbors and nothing works.   The neighbors pmd the mods, the city counsel is threatening fines and eminent domain, condemnation proceedings, etc.  Maybe we can even do a 2 fer    you meet up w Coach who you love.  Coach and fight Straw and you film it.   Afterwards you all clean up the disaster area - and everyone is finally happy.     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 12:58:41 PM
If we did a Gofundme - and raised say $500 - would you drive south to help straw clean up the toxic dump that has become his yard?   We have been trying for weeks to help the neighbors and nothing works.   The neighbors pmd the mods, the city counsel is threatening fines and eminent domain, condemnation proceedings, etc.  Maybe we can even do a 2 fer    you meet up w Coach who you love.  Coach and fight Straw and you film it.   Afterwards you all clean up the disaster area - and everyone is finally happy.   

why are you spending so much time thinking about me ?

fucking queer
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 01:02:06 PM
why are you spending so much time thinking about me ?

fucking queer

Trying to help your neighbors out here.  We deal with enough here on GB, its not fair to rest of the world to have to deal with a mess.  Just clean up already.   Save the Planet.   You know, all that earth day stuff?  Come on, Pelosi, Omar, AOC, DeBlasio, etc they are all waiting and counting on you.   :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 10, 2021, 01:41:17 PM
Hahahah...you haven’t been ready for prime time in this or any other thread related anything to politics for 12 years. The excuse “I don’t have to prove anything” speaks volumes...

Like you proved the fake birth certificate?  Or Pizzagate?  Or Hillary going to jail?  Or covid assassination attempts?

You haven't and can't prove shit.  That's why you constantly spin and deflect.  And because you are a stupid little man too.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2021, 02:27:38 PM

You old guys and your weird training methods.  :D

That's pretty funny only my version is more accurate. I actually only have one testicle. When I had the mumps as a kid I developed orchitis in my right testicle.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 03:23:06 PM
Trying to help your neighbors out here.  We deal with enough here on GB, its not fair to rest of the world to have to deal with a mess.  Just clean up already.   Save the Planet.   You know, all that earth day stuff?  Come on, Pelosi, Omar, AOC, DeBlasio, etc they are all waiting and counting on you.   :D ;D

you and I both know you didn't do anything except IMAGINE all this shit

why are you spending time thinking about me

it's fucking weird
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 03:53:09 PM
you and I both know you didn't do anything except IMAGINE all this shit

why are you spending time thinking about me

it's fucking weird

Dude it’s GB just roll w it.  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 04:06:26 PM
Dude it’s GB just roll w it.  ;)

you can roll with it or even better why don't you give it a rest
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 04:11:04 PM
you can roll with it or even better why don't you give it a rest


If you can’t hang here it’s ok


I’ve weathered it  all and worst


GB = survival of the top.   Kill or be killed.  Eat or be eaten.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 04:19:42 PM

If you can’t hang here it’s ok


I’ve weathered it  all and worst


GB = survival of the top.   Kill or be killed.  Eat or be eaten.

it's old and stupid

find something new
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 10, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
I need one of those. Arthritis in the hands is a bitch.


Finally some happy news from Portland  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
it's old and stupid

find something new

Pathetic....



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on June 10, 2021, 04:59:20 PM
Pathetic....

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 10, 2021, 05:01:59 PM
    my grip isn't like it once was, i generally just use a rubber flexible disc to get a better grip on things. i have a set of heavy hand grippers  used to be able to close the 200's now can't even get the 100's anymore. set is from 100 lb to 350 lb strength. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Lovely news  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 10, 2021, 05:05:37 PM
Straw needs to just clean up the dump. Lift weights.    Tell Big Mike to suck a dick and it’s all good.

GB is for hardcore mofo.   

F even a lot of fake o’tren types who lurk don’t dare post here because they know they will get destroyed.     Just own it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 10, 2021, 05:45:37 PM
it's old and stupid

find something new

Just like you...Now then...Something new...  Fuck off, cow chow.

FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 06:01:10 PM
Just like you...Now then...Something new...  Fuck off, cow chow.

FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF    FYYFF

Oh look...A fucking fuck. Hi fucking fuck! Go fuck your grandma's anus through her shitty depends, you fucking fuckwit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 10, 2021, 06:02:57 PM
Pathetic....

BoB's collection of the Italian wines  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 10, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
Oh look...A fucking fuck. Hi fucking fuck! Go fuck your grandma's anus through her shitty depends, you fucking fuckwit.

You really are a talentless individual.  We all know how it pains you to be so easily bested and that each night before you fuck your neighbor's male dog, you genuflect before a portrait of Hillary and vow to suck every dick in Chicago if only she'd grant your most precious desire - No...Not the one where you serve as a toilet for 23 obese transnegresses but the one even further from fruition than that.  The one wherein you don't make a fookin' tard of yourself in front of Getbig.

You may now return to giving yourself a reacharound.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 10, 2021, 06:23:59 PM
You really are a talentless individual.  We all know how it pains you to be so easily bested and that each night before you fuck your neighbor's male dog, you genuflect before a portrait of Hillary and vow to suck every dick in Chicago if only she'd grant your most precious desire - No...Not the one where you serve as a toilet for 23 obese transnegresses but the one even further from fruition than that.  The one wherein you don't make a fookin' tard of yourself in front of Getbig.

You may now return to giving yourself a reacharound.

Did you actually fuck your grandmother in the anus or was it a fantasy that you never got to fulfill

Given how often you said that to people it seems a lot like projection on your part

Is that why your family hates you



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 10, 2021, 08:14:24 PM
Did you actually fuck your grandmother in the anus or was it a fantasy that you never got to fulfill

Given how often you said that to people it seems a lot like projection on your part

Is that why your family hates you

That is a LOT of reference to something not so common..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2021, 04:43:00 AM
That is a LOT of reference to something not so common..

It must have been his buzzword/phrase for that week.  He gets stuck on the same ones in his psycho babble rants all the time and can't stop using them over and over ad nauseam in a (failing) attempt to sound like an intellect. Only when the other person points out his repetitious stupidity does he move along to the next set of buzzwords. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 11, 2021, 06:09:02 AM

  that's disc you idiot and i use it to open tough jars and bottles caps. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 11, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
   
     
   
     
    8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 11, 2021, 12:52:29 PM
^^  I saw Gary Moore, in a small club mid-80's, front row, standing right in front of them He had Bob Daisly on Bass and Cozy Powell on drums.
Freaking amazing.
He did a ton from Victims of the Future, a heavy ass-kicker of a record.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 11, 2021, 01:11:54 PM
^^  I saw Gary Moore, in a small club mid-80's, front row, standing right in front of them He had Bob Daisly on Bass and Cozy Powell on drums.
Freaking amazing.
He did a ton from Victims of the Future, a heavy ass-kicker of a record.


   
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2021, 01:43:56 PM
Another weekend is upon us.   The 64,000 dollar question - will this finally be the weekend Straw cleans up the pig sty. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2021, 04:11:25 PM
Another weekend is upon us.   The 64,000 dollar question - will this finally be the weekend Straw cleans up the pig sty.
Straws mess has spread to funks yard now.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 11, 2021, 06:01:15 PM
Straws mess has spread to funks yard now.

It's gonna be wheelschair cleaning .................
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 12, 2021, 07:54:11 AM
Straw is the kind of mental that talks to himself and then replies.  FTN.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 13, 2021, 11:17:33 AM
 ::) ::) ::) ::)   
    ;D ;D ;D ;D   MIA yesterday was running lose in Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Les Grossman on June 13, 2021, 11:30:12 AM
LurkerNoMore and Strawman remind me of that feminine homo Che that used to post stupid political shit here.

Probably died of AIDS.

Good riddance.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2021, 11:42:24 AM
::) ::) ::) ::)   
    ;D ;D ;D ;D   MIA yesterday was running lose in Philadelphia.
Retard. Are you not going to include statistics for tobacco or alcohol deaths? What about obesity deaths?
You have gone full liberal, never go full liberal.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2021, 12:48:55 PM
It's gonna be wheelschair cleaning .................

Probably more trash accumulated over the weekend.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 13, 2021, 12:52:44 PM
LurkerNoMore and Strawman remind me of that feminine homo Che that used to post stupid political shit here.

Probably died of AIDS.

Good riddance.


BoB is with Baiden @ the G7 Summit  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 13, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
Retard. Are you not going to include statistics for tobacco or alcohol deaths? What about obesity deaths?
You have gone full liberal, never go full liberal.
    I'm a retard now, high praise indeed coming from the likes of you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 13, 2021, 01:36:48 PM
onto page 86. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 13, 2021, 01:49:24 PM
    I'm a retard now, high praise indeed coming from the likes of you.


U must be on some nice pain killers 24/7  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 13, 2021, 01:56:16 PM

U must be on some nice pain killers 24/7  ;D
   
   good stuff, give em a try, you might die but you'll go out happy. ;D ;D  ...just kidding, I don't recommend this stuff to anyone.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 13, 2021, 02:11:05 PM
      good stuff, give em a try, you might die but you'll go out happy. ;D ;D  ...just kidding, I don't recommend this stuff to anyone.

 ;D if sharky snack me, you'll get my surfboard ...........


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2021, 02:41:27 PM
    I'm a retard now, high praise indeed coming from the likes of you.
It was supposed to be an insult but I guess when you're as low as a Bitem supporter being called retarded is high praise.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 13, 2021, 04:18:37 PM
LurkerNoMore and Strawman remind me of that feminine homo Che that used to post stupid political shit here.

Probably died of AIDS.

Good riddance.

Leslie reminds me of that closet gay homo in the eighth grade whose mother called the school to complain that his classmates told him there was no Santa Claus.

Probably die a virgin.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 13, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
    I'm a retard now, high praise indeed coming from the likes of you.

Didn't you know?  Red States have the highest rate of obesity, tobacco use and alcoholics than liberal states.  The highest rate for lack of education as well, which is why if you had pointed out that out.... he wouldn't have understood it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 13, 2021, 04:39:03 PM
End of another weekend - same question.   Is the pigs mess and garbage dump cleaned up ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 13, 2021, 04:50:53 PM
End of another weekend - same question.   Is the pigs mess and garbage dump cleaned up ?

I'm guessing that being the selfless hippie he is, he's going to ax for a grant to make his property into a home for Free Range Hobos. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 14, 2021, 12:36:46 PM
It was supposed to be an insult but I guess when you're as low as a Bitem supporter being called retarded is high praise.
   
                                     DUUUHHHH,  I know it was meant to be an insult, funny how I never, ever insult anyone on here. I could call you a moron, jackass miscreant, but no I choose to take the high road.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 14, 2021, 01:01:33 PM
I'm guessing that being the selfless hippie he is, he's going to ax for a grant to make his property into a home for Free Range Hobos.

I hope his silence means he is trash bags in hand, hired a few illegals welcomed by Kamala, and the place is finally getting some attention.   The illegals in the hood where he lives are going to flee back to Tijuana at this rate. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 14, 2021, 01:06:56 PM
 
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 14, 2021, 02:52:19 PM
Salma was amazing in that, stunning creature. ^^
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2021, 04:28:56 PM
   
                                     DUUUHHHH,  I know it was meant to be an insult, funny how I never, ever insult anyone on here. I could call you a moron, jackass miscreant, but no I choose to take the high road.
There is no high road in the democratic party. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 14, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
There is no high road in the democratic party. ;)
     AGAIN, I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT, I'M AN INDEPENDANT AS IN INDEPENDANT THINKER. RUN KASICH AND I VOTE REPUBLICAN, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2021, 05:02:17 PM
     AGAIN, I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT, I'M AN INDEPENDANT AS IN INDEPENDANT THINKER. RUN KASICH AND I VOTE REPUBLICAN, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

Ok maybe you are one of my gimmick accounts.  I’ve stated the exact same thing for the last three elections.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 14, 2021, 06:46:40 PM
   
                                     DUUUHHHH,  I know it was meant to be an insult, funny how I never, ever insult anyone on here. I could call you a moron, jackass miscreant, but no I choose to take the high road.

You have wired chest & X-ray machine @ the airport would zap you  ;D

+ those calcium batteries inside you .......... :P

Can't stop  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
     AGAIN, I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT, I'M AN INDEPENDANT AS IN INDEPENDANT THINKER. RUN KASICH AND I VOTE REPUBLICAN, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Ok maybe you are one of my gimmick accounts.  I’ve stated the exact same thing for the last three elections.
Yes, independents that only support democrats and their policies while criticizing everything republican. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 14, 2021, 07:47:25 PM
Ok maybe you are one of my gimmick accounts.


Makes sense....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 14, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
     AGAIN, I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT, I'M AN INDEPENDANT AS IN INDEPENDANT THINKER. RUN KASICH AND I VOTE REPUBLICAN, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

Literally every political post you’ve made in this and other threads points to you being a flat out leftist. Even on the mass shooting thread that Wes started you made it clear that you were anti-2A. But that’s okay, if I were a liberal Marxist I’d be embarrassed to admit it as well
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 14, 2021, 08:04:11 PM
Literally every political post you’ve made in this and other threads points to you being a flat out leftist.



Another "moderate dem" that doesn't realize what their party has become because they last paid attention to the platform in the 80s.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 14, 2021, 08:06:39 PM


Another "moderate dem" that doesn't realize what their party has become because they last paid attention to the platform in the 80s.

Yep..I also don’t think the others recognize where this country is heading....or maybe they do and completely support it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 07:43:48 AM

Makes sense....

...to idiots like you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 07:45:01 AM
Yes, independents that only support democrats and their policies while criticizing everything republican. ::)

 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 07:47:45 AM
...to idiots like you.



Ah, would you like to defend the dem platform then? No takers yet.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 07:51:07 AM


Ah, would you like to defend the dem platform then? No takers yet.

I don't have to when the other side believes in stolen elections, jewish space lasers, windmill cancer, the orange baboon will be back in office by August, etc...

Would you like to defend the Republican delusions platform?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 07:51:51 AM
As a real independent, I have no issue admitting my slant has become more "anti-democrat" in the past four years.

Biden and co are doing zero to change that.

However, this Adams guy running for mayor in NYC might be a good start - pro-police democrat who should be tough on crime.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2021, 07:54:41 AM
As a real independent, I have no issue admitting my slant has become more "anti-democrat" in the past four years.

Biden and co are doing zero to change that.

However, this Adams guy running for mayor in NYC might be a good start - pro-police democrat who should be tough on crime.

Deblasio and the woke mobs of losers have destroyed NYC.  These left wing failures and layabouts were given the keys and like liberal babies and losers - they made a gigantic mess and now we have rampant crime, filth, welfare mobs of bums and drug addicts, etc. 

Liberalism is a fatal disease.   Its cute when you are an idiot and 18 - but any adult voting for this is diseased and deranged.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 07:57:33 AM
I don't have to when the other side believes in stolen elections, jewish space lasers, windmill cancer, the orange baboon will be back in office by August, etc...

Would you like to defend the Republican delusions platform?


You mean The Constitution vs Das Kapital? Sure, I mean it's that easy really.

Again, one lib on here defend the far left platform of your party. Put a bow and lipstick on it all you want, just say something positive other than "Trump's gone".

Big crickets.

Now 86 pages arguing personality like women.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 08:25:48 AM

You mean The Constitution vs Das Kapital? Sure, I mean it's that easy really.

Again, one lib on here defend the far left platform of your party. Put a bow and lipstick on it all you want, just say something positive other than "Trump's gone".

Big crickets.

Now 86 pages arguing personality like women.

The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 08:33:32 AM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.



Where is the positive talk about the dem platform?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 15, 2021, 08:37:44 AM
Recent pic of Straw's house.

He hasn't made much progress.

(http://asergeev.com/pictures/archives/2006/510/jpeg/20.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: residue on June 15, 2021, 08:39:51 AM


Where is the positive talk about the dem platform?

you mean everything good about this country?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 08:46:15 AM


Where is the positive talk about the dem platform?

Compared to the Republican values I listed, everything is positive.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 08:48:34 AM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.

Let’s start here...dumbass. Tell me what all of these cities have in common. Not to mention billions going to blue state bailouts when their economies started taking a shit waaaay before the plannedemic . Not to mention blue states that tax high and for everything because they hate capitalism. Spare us with your red states federal aid bullshit


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2021, 09:06:26 AM
Compared to the Republican values I listed, everything is positive.

democrats are fleeing california and NYS for texas and florida. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Let’s start here...dumbass. Tell me what all of these cities have in common. Not to mention billions going to blue state bailouts when their economies started taking a shit waaaay before the plannedemic . Not to mention blue states that tax high and for everything because they hate capitalism. Spare us with your red states federal aid bullshit

That has nothing to do with what I posted.   What does the stats I posted have in common?  Republican principles at work.

Blue states tax high because they have to pay more to support the broke ass Republican red states.  Fact. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 09:12:27 AM
That has nothing to do with what I posted.   What does the stats I posted have in common?  Republican principles at work.

Blue states tax high because they have to pay more to support the broke ass Republican red states.  Fact.

Sure, that first Biden bailout where only 9% went to Chinavirus relief while most of the rest went to Blue state bailouts that Trump rightfully refused to give last year because they can’t add 2+2 let alone run a state’s economy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 09:18:33 AM
Sure, that first Biden bailed where only 9% went to Chinavirus relief while most of the rest went to Blue state bailouts that Trump rightfully refused to give last year because they can’t add 2+2 let alone run a state’s economy

The stats I posted have trended the same for decades.  You are attempting - and FAILING - to draw a conclusion based on the sum of a year.  Dumbass. 

If blue states can't add 2+2, then what does that say about red states that perform even worse?

How much of your stupidity is your own doing and how much is Fragile X responsible for?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 10:09:19 AM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.

You've accurately described a good portion of your detractors on Getbig.....you might make a couple of them pretty unhappy with this description....not that you should care.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 10:40:11 AM
The stats I posted have trended the same for decades.  You are attempting - and FAILING - to draw a conclusion based on the sum of a year.  Dumbass. 

If blue states can't add 2+2, then what does that say about red states that perform even worse?

How much of your stupidity is your own doing and how much is Fragile X responsible for?

I couldn’t find any stats you claimed to have posted. The one thing this article doesn’t address that I will, is that residences and businesses in blue states fleeing to Red states because of that states shitty economies and poor governing. Aside from this going long before the plannedemic...now you Governors like Cuomo literally begging for these people fleeing to come back. Most of these would be the rich that the left hates so much.

In California, residences were threatened that even if they left the state they would still be subjected to still paying that states tax. As far what you posted about drugs, etc. I’m not pulling any stats for that but just going by Dem ran cities, most are shitholes with their Representatives in Washington doing absolutely nothing for their constituents. I drive through Maxine Waters district 2-3x a week and it’s a shithole. I train at Golds Venice and am also apart of the Muscle Beach shows with judging and sponsoring. Venice has been bad in the past not worse by 10 fold...Dem ran. I was in Baltimore, DC, Chicago and Newark in Dec..all shitholes with rampant Homelessness, needles laying everywhere, feces, piss, beggars, etc. All Dem ran shitholes

Pelosi’s district in SF is right up there with the worst. What used to be one of the most beautiful cities in the country is now a shithole. Portland, Seattle..shitholes and good people from there are leaving. Spare me with your stats. Also, these are the same cities that was to “defund” the police..these are the geniuses that are running this country, cities and states

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/worst-run-states-big-spending-democrats/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 10:54:15 AM
you mean everything good about this country?

Cancel culture, racism, pandering, weak borders, defunding police, critical race theory, and anti-semitism aren't everything good.

Everything good should be strong military, low taxes, strong borders, affordable healthcare, education reform, innovation, respectable care for elders, prison reform, racial/sexual tolerance, a watchdog media, home of the free.

Democrats haven't done shit for that, and neither party has solved the healthcare, education, and eldercare part.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 10:54:34 AM
You have wired chest & X-ray machine @ the airport would zap you  ;D

+ those calcium batteries inside you .......... :P

Can't stop  ;D ;D
   no problem, they give you a card for the hip replacements to show at theses check points and the heart was just a simple valve job. they gave me cow parts to replace a missing aorta valve. lots of fun. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
You've accurately described a good portion of your detractors on Getbig.....you might make a couple of them pretty unhappy with this description....not that you should care.
               
&t=11s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 11:06:46 AM
I couldn’t find any stats you claimed to have posted.

Then you didn't look or (obviously) was too stupid to know what you were looking at.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 11:29:07 AM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.

These aren’t stats knucklehead
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 11:34:33 AM
These aren’t stats knucklehead

Maybe not to you or anyone else living in LaLa Land.  But yeah... they are.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 12:01:53 PM
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)    Someday, I’m going to die.

This, I grudgingly accept. I have no idea how it’s going to happen. Maybe I will die of having a tree fall on me, or eating tainted shellfish or of being struck by lightning. But this much I guarantee: I will not die of having wagered my life that TV carnival barkers, political half-wits and goobers in MAGA hats know more than experts with RNs, MDs and Ph.D.s after their names.

In other words, I will not die of stupid.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 12:11:36 PM
Compared to the Republican values I listed, everything is positive.


There's a lot of brain drain in the left. Dealing in generalizations...unable to expand on anything.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 12:31:28 PM
So called moderates will be distancing themselves from what the dem party is involved in...social justice and climate as fear tools...big tech and vax as control tools. Making all but the top 1% equally poor and standardizing lower expectations.


Last night Jon Stewart admitted the obvious that China CV lab probably release the CV19.


Roger Waters - a guy who penned the 1984 inspired "Animals" ....tells Zuck to GTFO...noting exactly what FB is being used for but failing to link where that information goes....


https://brandnewtube.com/watch/roger-waters-response-to-mark-zuckerberg-wanting-to-use-his-song-to-promote-instagram_OCmhBG3pZV8YjIx.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 12:37:45 PM
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)    Someday, I’m going to die.

This, I grudgingly accept. I have no idea how it’s going to happen. Maybe I will die of having a tree fall on me, or eating tainted shellfish or of being struck by lightning. But this much I guarantee: I will not die of having wagered my life that TV carnival barkers, political half-wits and goobers in MAGA hats know more than experts with RNs, MDs and Ph.D.s after their names.

In other words, I will not die of stupid.


Hold Fauci's hand as he walks you into the ground then.

Old liberals really are stubborn as mules..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 12:41:34 PM

There's a lot of brain drain in the left. Dealing in generalizations...unable to expand on anything.

I haven't seen you expand on anything.  Obviously you can't. 

Trickle down education at work I suppose.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 12:41:46 PM

Hold Fauci's hand as he walks you into the ground then.

Old liberals really are stubborn as mules..
   as opposed to drinking bleach and shoving an ultraviolet tube up your ass like the orange turd recommended, okay.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 12:44:03 PM
   as opposed to drinking bleach and shoving an ultraviolet tube up your ass like the orange turd recommended, okay.

Show the quote where he said to drink bleach or do that.

You used to be an awesome poster.

Now you flood the boards with non-stop memes, youtube videos and walls of copy/paste text.

You've become spam.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2021, 12:54:24 PM
Show the quote where he said to drink bleach or do that.

You used to be an awesome poster.

Now you flood the boards with non-stop memes, youtube videos and walls of copy/paste text.

You've become spam.

fair point

what he said is that maybe we should find a way to inject disinfectant (and bleach is in that category)

he was dead serious when he said it but when he found out later that he sounded like a fucking moron he pretended it was a joke


Quote
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2021, 12:55:58 PM
How is that dumb?   WTF do you think people with infections take anti biotics for etc?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2021, 12:58:06 PM
How is that dumb?   WTF do you think people with infections take anti biotics for etc?

antibiotics are not disinfectants

how the fuck do you not know this ?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2021, 01:01:06 PM
antibiotics are not disinfectants

how the fuck do you not know this ?

You are parsing words and know damn well he was talking about the same exact thing.  This is why those infected with TDS so badly as yourself come across as so insane and mentally ill when it comes to Trump.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 01:02:24 PM
fair point

what he said is that maybe we should find a way to inject disinfectant (and bleach is in that category)

he was dead serious when he said it but when he found out later that he sounded like a fucking moron he pretended it was a joke

trumps was just "riffing" or so someone tried to tell me.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 01:08:49 PM
trumps was just "riffing" or so someone tried to tell me.

That is what I told you.  I said he was rifting, stupidly and inappropriately, speaking off the cuff, which was not something to do given the severity at the time.

For some reason you responded by googling the term "riff" and pasting definitions.

Either way, he didn't say to drink bleach.  He said it would be cool if there was a substance that acted inside the body the way disinfectants kill it outside the body.

The left ran with it, and now you still have idiots thinking he said to drink bleach.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 01:11:40 PM
Show the quote where he said to drink bleach or do that.

You used to be an awesome poster.

Now you flood the boards with non-stop memes, youtube videos and walls of copy/paste text.

You've become spam.
   just this thread, I'm just having some fun with it , this will stop when this thread hits 100 pages as I predicted in a very early post in this thread. look at my other posts not in this thread
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 01:18:54 PM
That is what I told you.  I said he was rifting, stupidly and inappropriately, speaking off the cuff, which was not something to do given the severity at the time.

For some reason you responded by googling the term "riff" and pasting definitions.

Either way, he didn't say to drink bleach.  He said it would be cool if there was a substance that acted inside the body the way disinfectants kill it outside the body.

The left ran with it, and now you still have idiots thinking he said to drink bleach.

My appologies. I did misread what you posted. In this situation, Trump riffing might have been better than him rifting now that I know the difference.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 01:18:58 PM
   just this thread, I'm just having some fun with it , this will stop when this thread hits 100 pages as I predicted in a very early post in this thread. look at my other posts not in this thread

I always liked your historical sports and ironage stuff.

I don't think the spam is limited to this, but I'll chalk it up to the hive minded lunacy of the last four years.

Plus, I saw the shit out of the mouth gif when I was eating and it pissed me off lol.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 01:20:34 PM
My appologies. I did misread what you posted. In this situation, Trump riffing might have been better than him rifting now that I know the difference.

All good.

I do think Trump was his own worst enemy, and said ridiculous things, and even when not ridiculous, messaged them extremely poorly.

But, I despise what our media has become, and the falsehoods that now have become reality.

Too dangerous.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2021, 02:26:24 PM
You are parsing words and know damn well he was talking about the same exact thing.  This is why those infected with TDS so badly as yourself come across as so insane and mentally ill when it comes to Trump.   

I'm not parsing anything

HE SAID DISINFECTANT

a list of disinfectants does not include antibiotics and antibiotics only work on bacterial infections

Covid is a virus

WTF is wrong you ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
The left still believing Trump said use disinfectant, mocked a disabled journalist, had an affair with a stripper, caused an “insurrection”, used military to clear a park 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 15, 2021, 03:20:54 PM
The left still believing Trump said use disinfectant, mocked a disabled journalist, had an affair with a stripper, caused an “insurrection”, used military to clear a park 😂

Coach, just let 'em continue with their diatribe against civilization and hope that they all go the way of the Dodo soon from having to house their illegal immigrant voters, free range hobos, or Schmoevid.  I wish the libs here and in the real world all the worst wurst.  Fuck 'em to Hades.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 03:29:08 PM
DR. JOHN BOSLEY ZIEGLER ... THE  DOCTOR WHO BROUGHT STEROIDS TO AMERICA                                 
Dr. John Ziegler, born in 1920, known as "Montana Jack", was a medical doctor who developed the anabolic steroid Dianabol, which was released in the USA in 1958 by Ciba Pharmaceuticals.
Ziegler pioneered its athletic use as an aid to muscle growth by bodybuilders, and he administered it to U.S. weightlifting champion Bill March, of the York Barbell Club in 1959, when Ziegler was acting the physician to the United States Weightlifting team.
Ziegler, who graduated from Gettysburg College in 1942, was a descent from three generations of doctors dating back to the American Civil War. His father, a practicing physician/scientist discovered the salt tablet.
Dr. "John" served as an officer in the United States Marine Corps in the Pacific during World War II, where he suffered extensive bullet wounds. His experience in surgery and convalescence led to his specialty in recuperative medicine at the Maryland Medical School. In 1954, he began specializing in the treatment of handicapped and seriously injured patients while he conducted part-time chemistry research at Ciba.
Dr. Ziegler became another of the  enthusiastic weightlifters who trained at the York Barbell Club, which was the center of American fitness, thanks to Bob Hoffman, owner of the York Barbell Company. In 1954, he traveled to Vienna, with the American weightlifting team. There, he met a Russian physicist who stated the the Russian lifters were being given testosterone.
Returning to America, Ziegler tried weak doses of testosterone on himself, and other athletes training at York.  All who participated gained body weight and strength, however, there were negative side-effects.
With research assistance from Ciba, Ziegler began to look for a synthetic substance that mimicked testosterone, without after-effects, and hit upon Dianabol. He administered the pill to the entire U. S. Olympic weightlifting team in Rome in 1960, but they still lost to the Soviets.
Ziegler gave up experimentation with athletes when he discovered that some who had taken 20 times the recommended dosage and had developed a liver condition. He was quoted in Science magazine in 1972, stating, "I lost interest in fooling with IQ's of that caliber. Now steroid abuse is about as widespread among these idiots as marijuana."
Later, Ziegler became even more outspoken against steroid abuse in sports, saying, "It's bad enough to have to deal with drug addicts, but now healthy athletes are putting themselves in the same category. It's a disgrace. Who plays sports for fun anymore?
Dr, John Bosley Ziegler suffered from heart disease, which he partially ascribed to his experimentation with steroids. He died from heart failure in 1983, at the age of 63.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2021, 03:36:36 PM
Coach, just let 'em continue with their diatribe against civilization and hope that they all go the way of the Dodo soon from having to house their illegal immigrant voters, free range hobos, or Schmoevid.  I wish the libs here and in the real world all the worst wurst.  Fuck 'em to Hades.

Agree 100% but knowing they’re baited and triggered with such stupidity warms my heart
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
I'm not parsing anything

HE SAID DISINFECTANT

a list of disinfectants does not include antibiotics and antibiotics only work on bacterial infections

Covid is a virus

WTF is wrong you ?


No what’s wrong with you ?    You know damn well what he was referring to.   For anyone to try to claim he was saying drink Clorox is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 15, 2021, 03:45:49 PM
I always liked your historical sports and ironage stuff.

I don't think the spam is limited to this, but I'll chalk it up to the hive minded lunacy of the last four years.

Plus, I saw the shit out of the mouth gif when I was eating and it pissed me off lol.
  sorry about that, that is gross.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2021, 03:58:28 PM

No what’s wrong with you ?    You know damn well what he was referring to.   For anyone to try to claim he was saying drink Clorox is ridiculous.

He didn't say drink Clorox

he said INJECT DISINFECTANT

Here is the AGAIN

Why are you wasting your time trying this

This what he said

Quote
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 04:25:41 PM
All good.

I do think Trump was his own worst enemy, and said ridiculous things, and even when not ridiculous, messaged them extremely poorly.

But, I despise what our media has become, and the falsehoods that now have become reality.

Too dangerous.

Someone posted a tiny clip from a video of Biden's answering a question from a reporter at a NATO press conference wherein he takes a long pause before addressing part of the question he'd been asked. I believe the intent was to make Biden appear to be senile. Like Biden or not, at least he thinks before he speaks.

Biden has had his share of gaffes over his 40+ year career in politics and it appears he's learned something from his mistakes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 04:27:24 PM
Someone posted a tiny clip from a video of Biden's answering a question from a reporter at a NATO press conference wherein he takes a long pause before addressing part of the question he'd been asked. I believe the intent was to make Biden appear to be senile. Like Biden or not, at least he thinks before he speaks.

Biden has had his share of gaffes over his 40+ year career in politics and it appears he's learned something from his mistakes.

There is still reason to believe he may be in decline.

Too many examples, and his "handling" is concerning.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 04:30:22 PM
Imagine if the press reported every word and phrase Biden screwed up...the G7 is chocked full of gaffes and embarrassingly weak delivery.

Trump spoke with no handlers and no script. Obviously probably could have kept the whole disinfectant thing to himself but sounded like a bit of brainstorming, really.

Wouldn't it be nice to hear the POTUS sound like they had some ideas of their own or were at least at a working capacity?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 04:32:07 PM


Biden has had his share of gaffes over his 40+ year career in politics and it appears he's learned something from his mistakes.


Yeah, he just started not taking questions unless hand selected and reviewed by his advisors. Doesn't that oddly seem like something they would do in China or Russia?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 15, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
Someone posted a tiny clip from a video of Biden's answering a question from a reporter at a NATO press conference wherein he takes a long pause before addressing part of the question he'd been asked. I believe the intent was to make Biden appear to be senile. Like Biden or not, at least he thinks before he speaks.

Biden has had his share of gaffes over his 40+ year career in politics and it appears he's learned something from his mistakes.

Get real & inform yourself, YOURS president exposed his senility :

 - @ G7 Summit , mixing Syria & Libya 3X  ;D   

- He was totally lost inside cafe , what a  ;D ;D ;D by Brits

- He stupidly signed 25 pages long agreement  ::)   

- Then another fuck-up @ EU-US meeting  ;D

- Meeting Mr.Putin is gonna be ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ;D



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 15, 2021, 05:04:18 PM


WTF is wrong you ?




& WTF is wrong with yours prez , planet Earth is  ;D ;D ;D  @ him
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 05:08:22 PM
Imagine if the press reported every word and phrase Biden screwed up...the G7 is chocked full of gaffes and embarrassingly weak delivery.

Trump spoke with no handlers and no script. Obviously probably could have kept the whole disinfectant thing to himself but sounded like a bit of brainstorming, really.

Wouldn't it be nice to hear the POTUS sound like they had some ideas of their own or were at least at a working capacity?

Trump definitely has a mind of his own and it is all about him 100% of the time. This probably has something to do with why people didn't vote for him this time around.

You and I have a different take on Biden. I think he has a lot of his own ideas, but he is also willing to work with others to achieve goals. With Trump, it was strictly his way or the highway via a Twitter post which amounted to "You're Fired!"
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 15, 2021, 05:13:21 PM
   no problem, they give you a card for the hip replacements to show at theses check points and the heart was just a simple valve job. they gave me cow parts to replace a missing aorta valve. lots of fun. ;D ;D ;D ;D


funky , they gonna scan your ass @ the airports + all those tablets in your bag  :D

body search & X-ray is guaranteed
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 15, 2021, 05:24:36 PM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.
Links?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 15, 2021, 05:26:52 PM
I'm not parsing anything

HE SAID DISINFECTANT

a list of disinfectants does not include antibiotics and antibiotics only work on bacterial infections

Covid is a virus

WTF is wrong you ?
Suppose it's all about perspective....

disinfectant
[ˌdisənˈfektənt]
NOUN
a chemical liquid that destroys bacteria.
"all surfaces are cleaned manually or by pressure washer with disinfectant" · [more]
synonyms:
bactericide · germicide · antiseptic · sterilizer · sanitizer · cleaning agent · cleansing agent · cleanser · decontaminant · fumigant
ADJECTIVE
causing the destruction of bacteria.

"cleansing and disinfectant products"
synonyms:
germicidal · bactericidal · medicated
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
Links?

Google.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 15, 2021, 06:25:38 PM
The Republican platform has produced :

Trickle down economics that realllllly worked huh?
What health care plan again?
Red States that are the poorest in the country with the highest rate of federal aid going to them.
Red States with the highest rates of drug use, obesity, welfare, burglaries, teen pregnancies, high school drop outs, no college, poverty, diabetes, people on food stamps, covid deaths, suicide, divorce, gay porn, mental illness, etc...

What a fantastic platform.
???
Looks pretty even to me
Here are the 10 states with the most federal funding per resident:

1 Virginia ($10,301)
2 Kentucky ($9,145)
3 New Mexico ($8,692)
4 West Virginia ($7,283)
5 Alaska ($7,048)
6 Mississippi ($6,880)
7 Alabama ($6,694)
8 Maryland ($6,035)
9 Maine ($5,572)
10 Hawaii ($5,270)


#1 Being a blue state. :D


Even your drug stats are bullshit...quite evenly split.

1   District of Columbia   60.67   1   28   1
2   West Virginia   56.29   3   3   30
3   Missouri   53.98   25   1   12
4   Colorado   53.68   20   7   3
5   New Mexico   53.28   2   12   27
6   Nevada   50.22   12   39   2
7   Delaware   49.71   5   42   4
8   Michigan   49.52   14   19   9
9   Indiana   48.94   10   13   28
10   Kentucky   48.87   6   9   50
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on June 15, 2021, 07:18:20 PM
I think he has a lot of his own ideas, but he is also willing to work with others to achieve goals. With Trump, it was strictly his way or the highway via a Twitter post which amounted to "You're Fired!"

What has Biden done that is bipartisan since taking office?

He has reversed a lot of policy for pandering and spite, and the stay in Mexico discontinuation is costing him bigly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 15, 2021, 07:40:01 PM
Trump definitely has a mind of his own and it is all about him 100% of the time. This probably has something to do with why people didn't vote for him this time around.

You and I have a different take on Biden. I think he has a lot of his own ideas, but he is also willing to work with others to achieve goals. With Trump, it was strictly his way or the highway via a Twitter post which amounted to "You're Fired!"


Translation: I vote entirely based on personality and a couple hot button social issues.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 16, 2021, 03:46:07 AM
DR. JOHN BOSLEY ZIEGLER ... THE  DOCTOR WHO BROUGHT STEROIDS TO AMERICA                                 
Dr. John Ziegler, born in 1920, known as "Montana Jack", was a medical doctor who developed the anabolic steroid Dianabol, which was released in the USA in 1958 by Ciba Pharmaceuticals.
Ziegler pioneered its athletic use as an aid to muscle growth by bodybuilders, and he administered it to U.S. weightlifting champion Bill March, of the York Barbell Club in 1959, when Ziegler was acting the physician to the United States Weightlifting team.
Ziegler, who graduated from Gettysburg College in 1942, was a descent from three generations of doctors dating back to the American Civil War. His father, a practicing physician/scientist discovered the salt tablet.
Dr. "John" served as an officer in the United States Marine Corps in the Pacific during World War II, where he suffered extensive bullet wounds. His experience in surgery and convalescence led to his specialty in recuperative medicine at the Maryland Medical School. In 1954, he began specializing in the treatment of handicapped and seriously injured patients while he conducted part-time chemistry research at Ciba.
Dr. Ziegler became another of the  enthusiastic weightlifters who trained at the York Barbell Club, which was the center of American fitness, thanks to Bob Hoffman, owner of the York Barbell Company. In 1954, he traveled to Vienna, with the American weightlifting team. There, he met a Russian physicist who stated the the Russian lifters were being given testosterone.
Returning to America, Ziegler tried weak doses of testosterone on himself, and other athletes training at York.  All who participated gained body weight and strength, however, there were negative side-effects.
With research assistance from Ciba, Ziegler began to look for a synthetic substance that mimicked testosterone, without after-effects, and hit upon Dianabol. He administered the pill to the entire U. S. Olympic weightlifting team in Rome in 1960, but they still lost to the Soviets.
Ziegler gave up experimentation with athletes when he discovered that some who had taken 20 times the recommended dosage and had developed a liver condition. He was quoted in Science magazine in 1972, stating, "I lost interest in fooling with IQ's of that caliber. Now steroid abuse is about as widespread among these idiots as marijuana."
Later, Ziegler became even more outspoken against steroid abuse in sports, saying, "It's bad enough to have to deal with drug addicts, but now healthy athletes are putting themselves in the same category. It's a disgrace. Who plays sports for fun anymore?
Dr, John Bosley Ziegler suffered from heart disease, which he partially ascribed to his experimentation with steroids. He died from heart failure in 1983, at the age of 63.

Dr. Ziegler's claim to fame is being the first gym pusher.

Reports of him developing Dianabol are horsesh*t.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 16, 2021, 05:29:52 AM

funky , they gonna scan your ass @ the airports + all those tablets in your bag  :D

body search & X-ray is guaranteed

Funk is the bionic man, a Terminator of sorts... Glad you are doing better Funk.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
???
Looks pretty even to me
Here are the 10 states with the most federal funding per resident:

1 Virginia ($10,301)
2 Kentucky ($9,145)
3 New Mexico ($8,692)
4 West Virginia ($7,283)
5 Alaska ($7,048)
6 Mississippi ($6,880)
7 Alabama ($6,694)
8 Maryland ($6,035)
9 Maine ($5,572)
10 Hawaii ($5,270)


#1 Being a blue state. :D


Even your drug stats are bullshit...quite evenly split.

1   District of Columbia   60.67   1   28   1
2   West Virginia   56.29   3   3   30
3   Missouri   53.98   25   1   12
4   Colorado   53.68   20   7   3
5   New Mexico   53.28   2   12   27
6   Nevada   50.22   12   39   2
7   Delaware   49.71   5   42   4
8   Michigan   49.52   14   19   9
9   Indiana   48.94   10   13   28
10   Kentucky   48.87   6   9   50


Red States Highest Rate Of :

Stimulus Pay Out
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/05/12/blue-state-bailout-red-state-residents-received-largest-stimulus-checks-and-millions-in-federal-aid/?sh=2768cf4d8352

Obesity
https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/adult-obesity/
https://www.rwjf.org/en/library/articles-and-news/2015/09/State-of-Obesity-Report-2015.html

Welfare States - Greater Federal Aid Than They Pay Into The System
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494
http://politicalmaps.org/red-state-vs-blue-state-infographic/
https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

The states with the highest percentage of SNAP recipients are New Mexico (21%), Louisiana (17%), West Virginia (17%), Alabama (15%), and Mississippi (15%). New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nevada, and Rhode Island all have 14%. In Wyoming and Utah, only 5% of residents are SNAP recipients, the lowest in the U.S.

Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:

    New Mexico (21,368 per 100k)
    West Virginia (17,388 per 100k)
    Louisiana (17,388 per 100k)
    Mississippi (14,849 per 100k)
    Alabama (14,568 per 100k)
    Oklahoma (14,525 per 100k)
    Illinois (14,153 per 100k)
    Rhode Island (13,904 per 100k)
    Pennsylvania (13,623 per 100k)
    Oregon (13,617 per 100k)

Burglary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/02/16/the-u-s-states-with-the-highest-rates-of-burglary-infographic/?sh=51abf9fc2d45

Mental Illness(&Treatmen)/Drug Abuse/Suicide
https://www.kff.org/statedata/mental-health-and-substance-use-state-fact-sheets/
https://mhanational.org/blog/best-and-worst-states-mental-health


Covid
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/states-republican-governors-had-highest-covid-incidence-death-rates-study-n1260700

Gay Porn
https://www.mic.com/articles/85229/there-s-a-very-glaring-trend-in-the-3-states-that-love-gay-porn-the-most


TL;DR version
http://www.lyingforjesus.org/Evidence-Based-Memes/Bible-Belt-Dysfunction.php
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 16, 2021, 08:37:49 AM
Funk is the bionic man, a Terminator of sorts... Glad you are doing better Funk.
   
                                   thanks man, I hope you're doing good too. I want to say I have nothing against anyone on here even when they bash me. it's a bodybuilding website for christ sakes. sorry didn't mean to stir up any hard core Christians on here. for heaven's sakes
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 16, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
Its all good Funk, of course I do more than my share of acting cuckoo here, LOL.  ;)
I may bash a party, but Im open to be bashed as well. Who says I'm right?
Im sure we're just as looney to the left, LOL.

I like everyone here, Straw, Lurker, heck even Shizzo and Prime  ;)
They give as good as they get and dont seem to get razzled by it all.

All in fun... Plus us old guys will be dead before things burn-down anyways, so I try to enjoy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 16, 2021, 10:33:33 AM
Its all good Funk, of course I do more than my share of acting cuckoo here, LOL.  ;)
I may bash a party, but Im open to be bashed as well. Who says I'm right?
Im sure we're just as looney to the left, LOL.

I like everyone here, Straw, Lurker, heck even Shizzo and Prime  ;)
They give as good as they get and dont seem to get razzled by it all.

All in fun... Plus us old guys will be dead before things burn-down anyways, so I try to enjoy.
               
       good point
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 16, 2021, 12:43:31 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2021, 12:57:50 PM
Its all good Funk, of course I do more than my share of acting cuckoo here, LOL.  ;)
I may bash a party, but Im open to be bashed as well. Who says I'm right?
Im sure we're just as looney to the left, LOL.

I like everyone here, Straw, Lurker, heck even Shizzo and Prime  ;)
They give as good as they get and dont seem to get razzled by it all.

All in fun... Plus us old guys will be dead before things burn-down anyways, so I try to enjoy.

Well I will just keep trying until you don't like me.   LOL
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 16, 2021, 12:59:23 PM
Suppose it's all about perspective....

disinfectant
[ˌdisənˈfektənt]
NOUN
a chemical liquid that destroys bacteria.
"all surfaces are cleaned manually or by pressure washer with disinfectant" · [more]
synonyms:
bactericide · germicide · antiseptic · sterilizer · sanitizer · cleaning agent · cleansing agent · cleanser · decontaminant · fumigant
ADJECTIVE
causing the destruction of bacteria.

"cleansing and disinfectant products"
synonyms:
germicidal · bactericidal · medicated

and again, Covid is a VIRUS and not a BACTERIA

Most disinfectants that I know of are used to clean surfaces (which can kill both viruses and bacteria)

Let me know which one of those items on your list you'd like to inject into your body

Once the virus is inside your body and in your cells a disinfectant is not going to do anything to kill it no matter how much you inject.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2021, 01:01:36 PM
and again, Covid is a VIRUS and not a BACTERIA

Most disinfectants that I know of are used to clean surfaces (which can kill both viruses and bacteria)

Let me know which one of those items on your list you'd like to inject into your body

Once the virus is inside your body and in your cells a disinfectant is not going to do anything to kill it no matter how much you inject.

YES or NO - did you clean up the yard already? 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 16, 2021, 02:12:27 PM
YES or NO - did you clean up the yard already? 



😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 02:48:24 PM
Suppose it's all about perspective....

disinfectant
[ˌdisənˈfektənt]
NOUN
a chemical liquid that destroys bacteria.
"all surfaces are cleaned manually or by pressure washer with disinfectant" · [more]
synonyms:
bactericide · germicide · antiseptic · sterilizer · sanitizer · cleaning agent · cleansing agent · cleanser · decontaminant · fumigant
ADJECTIVE
causing the destruction of bacteria.

"cleansing and disinfectant products"
synonyms:
germicidal · bactericidal · medicated


Depending on the type of disinfectant, they can kill viruses prior to their infecting a host. Bleach is still one of the most common and available disinfectants that kills the broadest range of viruses, including hepatitis C which is resistant to many other disinfectants.

Antibiotics do not work on viruses, such as those that cause colds, flu, bronchitis, or runny noses, even if the mucus is thick, yellow, or green. Antibiotics are only needed for treating certain infections caused by bacteria.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 16, 2021, 06:52:35 PM


Glory Holes Swallower talks about viruses  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 07:21:11 PM

Glory Holes Swallower talks about viruses  ::) ::)

You are a jerk. But hey whatever it takes for you to feel good about yourself....go for it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 16, 2021, 07:26:52 PM
You are a jerk.

Report me to Dementia Joe !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 07:35:23 PM
Report me to Dementia Joe !.

I already have. They are coming for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2021, 04:35:31 AM
YES or NO - did you clean up the yard already? 



I bet they get some good stuff and re-sell it.

Clever the way the owner avoided answering the question about cost.

Just tell us the cost for 1/4...1/2...3/4...full truck.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 17, 2021, 10:31:09 AM
I bet they get some good stuff and re-sell it.
   
     these guys made a very lucrative career out of being garbage pickers.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2021, 12:13:35 PM
I bet they get some good stuff and re-sell it.

They pretty much take everything you want to get rid of including trash. Many of the thrift stores, including Goodwill, have very limited pickup service if any since the start of the pandemic. Goodwill has also closed many of their drop off locations. 1-800-Got-Junk is a brilliant idea.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 17, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
They pretty much take everything you want to get rid of including trash. Many of the thrift stores, including Goodwill, have very limited pickup service if any since the start of the pandemic. Goodwill has also closed many of their drop off locations. 1-800-Got-Junk is a brilliant idea.

Not really.  When I bought the condo I own as a rental, I tried to get them to come pick up a marble wall unit with a built in Murphy bed that was in the condo's guest bedroom.  They said that they would take the bed frame, weight balance hinges, mattress and bed dressings (comforter, pillows, etc.) but they would not take the Murphy bed frame.  It was beautiful full wall frame with recessed lighting, shelves, and cabinets.  They said it would be too much to move it due to the weight.

I ended up having a guy come over with a stone cutter and cut it into pieces to be taken out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2021, 03:11:57 PM
Not really.  When I bought the condo I own as a rental, I tried to get them to come pick up a marble wall unit with a built in Murphy bed that was in the condo's guest bedroom.  They said that they would take the bed frame, weight balance hinges, mattress and bed dressings (comforter, pillows, etc.) but they would not take the Murphy bed frame.  It was beautiful full wall frame with recessed lighting, shelves, and cabinets.  They said it would be too much to move it due to the weight.

I ended up having a guy come over with a stone cutter and cut it into pieces to be taken out.

Interesting....they claim they take pianos which is about the heaviest single thing in my house. When I was thinking about unloading mine, I called them and confirmed they took pianos. Turns out, I wasn't ready to let it go yet. They charge based on how much space your stuff takes up in their truck....apparently not by weight.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 17, 2021, 05:04:55 PM
Interesting....they claim they take pianos which is about the heaviest single thing in my house. When I was thinking about unloading mine, I called them and confirmed they took pianos. Turns out, I wasn't ready to let it go yet. They charge based on how much space your stuff takes up in their truck....apparently not by weight.

Call ANTIFA, they'll 'help you'  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2021, 10:03:26 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 18, 2021, 10:17:30 AM
Interesting....they claim they take pianos which is about the heaviest single thing in my house. When I was thinking about unloading mine, I called them and confirmed they took pianos. Turns out, I wasn't ready to let it go yet. They charge based on how much space your stuff takes up in their truck....apparently not by weight.

Pianos are a bit more mobile than this.  This was attached to the wall (obviously as it was real marble and weighed a ton), but apparently they just didn't want to do the labor in removing it due to the weight.  The guy that I did hire to take it out cut it into sections to make it more manageable weight wise.

The original owners that had it installed had it built in one place and then transported to the property where they had to hire a crane barge to come up the Intracoastal and lift it to the 18th floor.  They had to take the balcony doors out and the railing down in order to actually get it in the place.

When the sold the condo to the next owners (the ones I bought it from), they told me they wanted it removed but didn't want to spend all the money on the crane barge and getting permits, etc..  so they left it like it was.  It was a total beast.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2021, 10:47:14 AM

Do you even have to balance that thing?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Do you even have to balance that thing?
I don't think so, if you did it would probably roll on you and crush you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 18, 2021, 10:54:34 AM
Here we are YET AGAIN.   Another weekend, another opportunity to tidy up the filth and pig sty. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2021, 11:32:35 AM
    the comeback
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2021, 01:04:35 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 18, 2021, 05:42:01 PM
Here we are YET AGAIN.   Another weekend, another opportunity to tidy up the filth and pig sty.
Can't clean the yard when your fingers are pointing at everyone else.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on June 18, 2021, 07:52:21 PM
Can't clean the yard when your fingers are pointing at everyone else.

Or they're spreading his own butt cheeks so Straw can shove his head up his butt and be an anal ostrich, aka, Asstrich.

He needs to  Covid up or Kobe down as he is an anti-American twatling.  I really hope he and his comrades-in-cum get teh LemonAIDS and die.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 18, 2021, 08:40:10 PM
The left still believing Trump said use disinfectant, mocked a disabled journalist, had an affair with a stripper, caused an “insurrection”, used military to clear a park 😂

Coach.. I'm trying to let the political stuff go. It just doesn't matter. But when I read that you listed "had an affair with a stripper" as one of the things the Left still believe it gave me pause. So you're saying some of the right believe he DIDN'T have an affair? Can you tell me in your own words why he paid her off through his attorney?  You could be right and that he didn't have an affair although I think we can all agree an affair for the Donald isn't unusual, I've just never met someone or had the chance to ask someone who believes he Didn't Have an affair with Stormy given the information readily available and so I'm just curious as to your opinion.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 18, 2021, 08:44:57 PM
Trump definitely has a mind of his own and it is all about him 100% of the time. This probably has something to do with why people didn't vote for him this time around.

You and I have a different take on Biden. I think he has a lot of his own ideas, but he is also willing to work with others to achieve goals. With Trump, it was strictly his way or the highway via a Twitter post which amounted to "You're Fired!"

I think you are close. It wasn't necessarily his way. He really had no "way" prior to being elected. He flew by the seat of his pants on many things getting his marching orders from Hannity and the like. "His way" really amounted to what FOX News talking heads said that day, and what response he got from 35% of the Republican party. Which is why he lost to someone like Biden.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 19, 2021, 08:35:48 AM
   
   
   new footage of the tour of the capitol by the peaceful tourists   on jan 6   ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 19, 2021, 09:49:31 AM
Legendary Bodybuilder Robby Robinson Has Only Gotten Stronger
"Hard work pays off" and other lessons from the first-ever Masters Mr. Olympia.


BY KRISTIAN RHIM
JUN 15, 2021
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WHEN ROBBY ROBINSON started bodybuilding at Venice Beach’s Gold’s Gym in 1975, he remembers being told “Blacks don’t get contracts” to compete. He was harassed at contests and struggled with steroids and sickle cell anemia. Despite many wins, Robinson never captured the IFBB’s overall title, Mr. Olympia. After he complained about mistreatment, the IFBB suspended him and he moved overseas to compete without the fear of racism. He’d eventually return to the U. S. in 1994, winning the first-ever Masters Mr. Olympia, for athletes over 40, and then two more Masters titles in his 50s. Today, at age 75, Robinson still lifts, and he shares how he forged the strength to face any challenge.

MAKING THE LEAP
I WENT TO what was basically an all-Black high school in Tallahassee, Florida, so I really didn’t encounter that much racism. Because everybody was poor, Blacks and whites, it didn’t look like I was any better than you—we ate the same food, cooked in the same pots. So I didn’t really get a blunt force of it, I guess, until I left the swamps. I never heard the word n***** until I came to California in ’75. When I left the swamps, I realized, Wow, life is gonna be hard out there. That’s how I dealt with it.

BLOCKING OUT BIAS
I WAS DOING well because I had just a great body. I mean, that’s just the hardcore facts. I had a great physique; I had a good, tough mindset. So I just didn’t listen to all the negs. I think when you get caught up in the negs and just keep listening to it, it drains your ability to do whatever you want to do positive. I just didn’t pay any attention to it.

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MEN'S HEALTH
BATTLING OTHER DEMONS
MY FIRST ENCOUNTER with steroids was about two weeks before Mr. World [in 1979]. I remember taking a shot, walking home, collapsing in the door. My lady friend dragged me in the house. I collapsed because of the fact that when you take steroids, [there can be blood-pressure issues]. And for a person that has sickle cell, like I do, that’s just not good. So I was getting no oxygen to the brain, no oxygen to the heart; I’m almost probably going into a cardiac arrest. She was able to drag me to the bathtub and put cold water on me. Now, you might not believe it, but that saved my life. I went to New York and won Mr. World two weeks later, and I’m thinking, This is madness!

EXPERIENCING INJUSTICE
WHEN I CAME to Los Angeles in 1975 from Florida, I was denied a professional contract. By the ’80s, I’d moved to Europe, and I was based there basically my whole career, almost 13 years. Over there, I was treated completely differently. I was able to work and do exhibitions and seminars. I made enough money to buy a little home in Holland. So I think, Something good, something bad—that’s just how life is. It’s not perfect; it didn’t make you any promises. You have to go in there and make life, whatever life you want, all on your own. Nobody’s gonna give it to you. It inspired me, bro. I just kept working.

robby robinson on the cover of muscle mag muscle and fitness from june 1983
Robby Robinson on the cover of muscle mag Muscle & Fitness from June 1983
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STAGING A COMEBACK
I CAME BACK in 1994 for the Masters Mr. Olympia. I was standing onstage and they announce, “The first Masters Mr. Olympia winner 1994, Robby Robinson.” I remember all the obscenities I was called. I remember hearing all the fans—everybody booed. After the judging, after the show was over, they normally have a big banquet, and that night there was no banquet, there was no party, there was nothing. That hit me hard. And you’re talking the auditorium is packed, thousands of people screaming and yelling, you know, for Lou [Ferrigno]. But when the judge said, “The first Masters Mr. Olympia is Robby Robinson,” everybody let out boos.

BECOMING MORE VOCAL
YOU CAN'T BREAK me down mentally; the only person who can break me down is myself. And I just never listened to the negatives. For the Masters Mr. Olympia, I knew that if I could go in there and get myself in great shape, that whatever competitors—whatever racism, discrimination was there—I thought my physique could take it down, and it did. I made it through all of that, and I just felt that you got to say something. [In the early ’80s] I was suspended because of the fact I’ve spoken out about “Hey, you know, listen, there’s really no money here; people don’t really care about you. If you don’t care about yourself, you’re not gonna make it.”

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"You have to go in there and make life, whatever life you want, all on your own."—Robby Robinson
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STAYING READY FOR WHATEVER
YOU HAVE YOUR wishes and dreams, like to go to Hollywood and be labeled into that world, like Arnold with Conan and Lou the Hulk. I thought it would be a great thing to do. But naaah, they weren’t ready for that. You know, out there in that world at that point at that time, those doors were just not open. Today I’m in the process of doing a documentary on my life. I don’t really have the desire to want to be a movie star now. But if someone came along and said, “Hey, listen, run over there and jump over that wall and fire your machine gun,” I’d give it a try.

CONTINUING TO DO THE WORK
NO DISRESPECT TO any of the guys that are out there trying to create a great physique, but I don’t see it as art anymore. I just see big bodies out there that are all just a large amount of anabolics and whatever else they can use to get that physique. And you know, I can’t admire it. I’m in a very happy place with what I’ve accomplished. Hard work pays off. I continue to say that.

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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 19, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Truman's(who would be a republican by today's standard) own words:

On February 28, 1947, about a month before he signed EO 9835, Truman wrote to Pennsylvania Governor George Earle, "People are very much wrought up about the Communist 'bugaboo' but I am of the opinion that the country is perfectly safe so far as Communism is concerned–we have too many sane people."



The problem is we don't have the sane people anymore.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9835

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2021, 10:10:15 PM
Coach.. I'm trying to let the political stuff go. It just doesn't matter. But when I read that you listed "had an affair with a stripper" as one of the things the Left still believe it gave me pause. So you're saying some of the right believe he DIDN'T have an affair? Can you tell me in your own words why he paid her off through his attorney?  You could be right and that he didn't have an affair although I think we can all agree an affair for the Donald isn't unusual, I've just never met someone or had the chance to ask someone who believes he Didn't Have an affair with Stormy given the information readily available and so I'm just curious as to your opinion.   

why won't coach respond to this..  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on June 19, 2021, 10:14:02 PM
why won't coach respond to this..  ;D
Because desperation, is a stinky cologne. You sound desperate, and needy of attention. Coach is busy with high blood pressure, and getting his next client, knocked out.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 20, 2021, 06:20:43 AM
Because desperation, is a stinky cologne. You sound desperate, and needy of attention. Coach is busy with high blood pressure, and getting his next client, knocked out.
   
     
   I can still hear that sound in my head today.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 21, 2021, 12:18:10 PM
Need to up the test level in this thread.


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 21, 2021, 12:28:59 PM
   
   
   thread is definitely slowing down, we are crawling to the 100 page finish line....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 21, 2021, 12:32:42 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 21, 2021, 12:33:16 PM
   
   
   
     
&t=69s 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 22, 2021, 01:17:07 PM

"Cowboys for Trump" founder, who vowed to return with guns to Capitol for inauguration, arrested by FBI
JANUARY 18, 2021 / 5:49 AM / CBS/AP


A New Mexico county official and founder of the group Cowboys for Trump, who vowed to return to Washington after last week's riot at the U.S. Capitol to "plant our flag" on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk, was arrested Sunday by the FBI.


Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin was arrested on charges of illegally entering the U.S. Capitol.     


According to court documents, Griffin told investigators he was "caught up" in the crowd, which pushed its way through the barricades and entered the restricted area of the U.S. Capitol, but said he didn't enter the building and instead remained on the U.S. Capitol steps.


A video posted to Griffin's personal Facebook page shows Griffin in the restricted areas, according to the affidavit.

Griffin didn't immediately respond to phone or text messages from The Associated Press seeking comment.

On Thursday, Griffin, said he planned to travel with firearms to Washington, D.C., for President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration.

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"I'm gonna be there on Jan. 20 ... and I'm gonna take a stand for our country and for our freedoms," Griffin said during a meeting of the Otero County Board of Commissioners.

"I'm gonna leave either tonight or tomorrow. I've got a .357 Henry Big Boy rifle lever action that I've got in the trunk of my car and I've got a .357 single action revolver, the Colt Ruger Vaquero that I'll have underneath the front seat on my right side and I will embrace my Second Amendment.

"I will keep my right to bear arms. My vehicle is an extension of my home in regard to the Constitution law, and I have a right to have those firearms in my car," he said.


The ViacomCBS program "Inside Edition" showed Griffin on the Capitol steps during the protest. "We're not going anywhere," he said. "We're not going to take for no for an answer. We're not going to get our election stolen from us from China."


When asked about comments he made on Facebook that there's going to be "blood running out" of the Capitol if there are more demonstrations, and whether he was afraid that more people could die, Griffin responded, "I am more afraid of losing my freedom than I am anything."

At another point, Griffin also says, "We're not going to allow it. There will never be a Biden presidency."

Griffin is also featured in the CBSN documentary "Hindsight is 2020: An Unprecedented Election." Watch it in the video player at the top of this page.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 22, 2021, 01:20:09 PM
   
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 22, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 22, 2021, 07:51:14 PM
Even most libs know old turkey neck is lying to them. Not libs in this thread, but in general.


A Court Ruled Rachel Maddow's Viewers Know She Offers Exaggeration and Opinion, Not Facts

"Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news," an Obama-appointed judge ruled.



https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 22, 2021, 10:40:02 PM
Even most libs know old turkey neck is lying to them. Not libs in this thread, but in general.


A Court Ruled Rachel Maddow's Viewers Know She Offers Exaggeration and Opinion, Not Facts

"Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news," an Obama-appointed judge ruled.



https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

She claimed that OAN is essentially paid Russian propaganda because of the fact that an OAN reporter was concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned newspaper.

BFD
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2021, 11:04:32 PM
She claimed that OAN is essentially paid Russian propaganda because of the fact that an OAN reporter was concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned newspaper.

BFD

Stopped reading at “claimed”  but you’re okay with CNN (who you source frequently) being the lefts bitch (or the political left being CNN’s bitch) as well as being owned by China?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 23, 2021, 07:44:26 AM
She claimed that OAN is essentially paid Russian propaganda because of the fact that an OAN reporter was concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned newspaper.

BFD


She lied you dolt. The court noted she lies so much she can't be taken seriously. This is dangerous protection for an outlet that poses as "news" ... that you libs take as gospel...and the reason you are always dealing in falsehoods and half truths. Your marching orders come from a propaganda outlet.


"Viewers expect her to do so, as it is indeed her show, and viewers watch the segment with the understanding that it will contain Maddow’s “personal and subjective views” about the news. See id. Thus, the Court finds that as a part of the totality of the circumstances, the broad context weighs in favor of a finding that the alleged defamatory statement is Maddow’s opinion and exaggeration of the Daily Beast article, and that reasonable viewers would not take the statement as factual. . . . "



How about reading a whole article for once?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 23, 2021, 08:07:14 AM
The nation wants to know - is Straws dump cleaned up yet?   I can smell the stench in NYC from San Fransicko
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 23, 2021, 08:25:03 AM
The nation wants to know - is Straws dump cleaned up yet?   I can smell the stench in NYC from San Fransicko

That septic tank is overflowing.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 23, 2021, 08:57:59 AM
That septic tank is overflowing.
We always knew he was full of shit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 23, 2021, 10:20:08 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2021, 11:37:38 AM

She lied you dolt. The court noted she lies so much she can't be taken seriously. This is dangerous protection for an outlet that poses as "news" ... that you libs take as gospel...and the reason you are always dealing in falsehoods and half truths. Your marching orders come from a propaganda outlet.


"Viewers expect her to do so, as it is indeed her show, and viewers watch the segment with the understanding that it will contain Maddow’s “personal and subjective views” about the news. See id. Thus, the Court finds that as a part of the totality of the circumstances, the broad context weighs in favor of a finding that the alleged defamatory statement is Maddow’s opinion and exaggeration of the Daily Beast article, and that reasonable viewers would not take the statement as factual. . . . "



How about reading a whole article for once?

Was the OAN reporter concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned news agency?

Yes or No?

The answer is YES

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 23, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Madcow has owned herself into oblivion nightly.   Why do you still given credence to her? 

Side note, I have a 4th of July coupon for 10% off 30 yard containers shipped free to your home if you are interested.   :D  :D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2021, 11:58:57 AM
OAN flawed lawsuit claimed that  it had never received money from Russia or its government....but of course that is NOT what Maddow said which is why the lawsuit was thrown out and OAN had to reimburse legal fees incurred by MSNBC

pay close attention Trumptard

Quote
A judge ordered the parent company for right-wing cable network One America News Network to pay MSNBC and host Rachel Maddow nearly $250,000 in legal fees after a failed defamation lawsuit.

Herring Networks, which owns OAN, sued MSNBC for $10 million in September 2019 following a segment on Maddow's show, in which she said OAN "really literally is paid Russian propaganda." The network called the claims "malicious" and "utterly and completely false" and said it had never received money from Russia or its government, according to legal documents obtained by USA TODAY.

U.S. District Judge Cynthia Bashant ruled last May that "no set of facts that could support a claim for defamation based on Maddow's statement." After NBC Universal, MSNBC and Maddow asked for nearly $350,000 in legal fees, the court permanently dismissed the case and on Friday awarded the defendants $247,667.50.

In a 2019 letter to OAN, Amy Wolf, a counselor for NBCUniversal, MSNBC's parent company, argued that Maddow's comment was a "protected opinion based on disclosed facts" following a Daily Beast article that reported OAN reporter Kristian Rouz was also paid to write for Sputnik, which is funded by the Russian government.

"We literally learned today that that outlet the president is promoting shares staff with the Kremlin," Maddow said in a July 22, 2019, episode. "In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America really literally is paid Russian propaganda. The on air U.S. politics reporter is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government."

NBCUniversal's letter argued that "Ms. Maddow's comment could not have been reasonably understood to mean that the Russian government made checks payable to OAN; indeed, she specifically noted who was paid by Sputnik. Use of the word 'literally' here is the kind of figure of speech that connotes opinion and thus cannot give rise to a defamation claim."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/02/09/msnbc-rachel-maddow-awarded-legal-fees-after-oan-lawsuit/4447175001/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2021, 12:01:34 PM
Madcow has owned herself into oblivion nightly.   Why do you still given credence to her? 

Side note, I have a 4th of July coupon for 10% off 30 yard containers shipped free to your home if you are interested.   :D  :D  ;D  ;D  ;D

you can use if for you own shit hole ( you still live in the slums right?)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 23, 2021, 12:13:00 PM
   
     ;D ;D ;D new york is a living breathing cesspool. one night I stayed a week in New York.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 23, 2021, 12:55:45 PM
&t=64s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 23, 2021, 02:52:04 PM

    .... I stayed a week in New York.


....... before or after 9 hips surgeries  :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 23, 2021, 04:04:57 PM
She claimed that OAN is essentially paid Russian propaganda because of the fact that an OAN reporter was concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned newspaper.

BFD
Such an apologist. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 23, 2021, 08:06:09 PM
Was the OAN reporter concurrently a paid reporter for a Russian State owned news agency?

Yes or No?

The answer is YES



According to whom? Not the court statement.

Truly like arguing with a woman. FFS
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2021, 06:43:27 AM
Alleged ‘Oath Keeper’ Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy and Obstruction in Capitol Siege; Will Cooperate with Prosecutors

A Florida man and alleged member of the far-right militia group the Oath Keepers on Wednesday admitted to multiple crimes stemming from the Jan. 6th siege on the U.S. Capitol. He also agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors as they continue to pursue cases against other alleged members of the mob, the Department of Justice announced Wednesday.

Graydon Young, 54, of Englewood, Fla., pleaded guilty to one felony count each of conspiracy and obstruction of congress. Young was one of 16 alleged Oath Keepers accused of coordinating a military-style attack on the capitol aimed at preventing the U.S. Senate from counting and ratifying the electoral college votes during the 2020 election cycle.

He is the first of 16 alleged co-conspirators connected to the Oath Keepers to enter a guilty plea on charges that the group plotted the attack on the capitol, and he is the second actual alleged member of the Oath Keepers to plead guilty. In return for his plea and agreement to cooperate, the government dismissed four other counts charged against Young and recommended he serve between 63 and 78 months in prison.

In a Fourth Superseding Indictment filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the government alleged that on Jan. 6, Young and 15 other members of the Oath Keepers “planned with each other, and with others known and unknown, to forcibly enter the Capitol” in order to “stop, delay, and hinder the Congressional proceedings occurring that day.”

The group members, which include Kelly Meggs, Connie Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Thomas Caldwell, Donovan Crowl, Jessica Watkins, Sandra Parker, Bennie Parker, and Laura Steele, among others, are alleged to have “prepared themselves for battle before heading to the Capitol by equipping themselves with communication devices and donning reinforced vests, helmets, and goggles.” Prosecutors also allege that prior to Jan. 6th, the group “discussed the need to maintain operational security” and then used encrypted messaging apps to communicate and coordinate their plans. They were charged with conspiracy, obstructing official government proceedings, destruction of government property, and trespassing.

During Wednesday’s proceeding, Young admitted to unlawfully entering the capitol building before meeting up with his alleged co-conspirators to walk up stairs leading to east side of the building.

“Young and others walked in a ‘stack’ formation, with each person keeping a hand on the shoulder of the person in front. Young believed that when he entered the building, he and the co-conspirators were trying to obstruct, influence and impede an official proceeding, specifically Congress’s certification of the Electoral College vote,” the DOJ said in a press release. “Young admitted to intending to stop or delay the Congressional proceeding by intimidating and coercing government personnel who were participating in or supporting the proceeding.”

Following the siege on the Capitol, Young allegedly posted to Facebook that he “stormed and got inside” before deleting his account two days later. He was initially charged with destruction of evidence, but prosecutors dropped that charge.

Young had expressed severe difficulty in coping with his incarceration. After being denied bond in February, his attorney sought to have the ruling vacated by arguing that his client was “duped” into participating in the Oath Keepers’ plans and insisting that Young was “unaware of the organization’s nefarious purpose when he joined [the group].”

“The psychological burdens of being detained pending trial are very real for Mr. Young. Since he has no previous experience with the criminal justice system, being detained is taking an extremely high toll on his mental well-being,” the motion to vacate stated. “Prior to being detained, Mr. Young was a mentally strong and stable person with no history of mental disorders. His current emotional and psychological state is owing entirely to the fact that he has been detained and is unable to rely upon his normal social support systems. Because he is such a strong family man, locking him up away from his wife and children with the prospect of an extremely long period of time before trial is even scheduled is causing potentially irreparable psychological and emotional damage to Mr. Young.”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 24, 2021, 06:48:48 AM
Commie Marxist Gov't loves to single out these clowns, locking them up, prosecuting, etc.
While ignoring thousands who rioted, burned, looted.

If they treated them the same, it wouldnt be an issue.
But they dont, they let out criminals, rapists, killers back on to the streets, while rounding up these few retards.  ::)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2021, 06:57:45 AM
Commie Marxist Gov't loves to single out these clowns, locking them up, prosecuting, etc.
While ignoring thousands who rioted, burned, looted.

If they treated them the same, it wouldnt be an issue.
But they dont, they let out criminals, rapists, killers back on to the streets, while rounding up these few retards.  ::)
   
     they seem like some very fine people. what ya gonna do brother when some trumpamania runs wild over you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 24, 2021, 07:24:55 AM
   
     they seem like some very fine people. what ya gonna do brother when some trumpamania runs wild over you.

He turned out to be a fucking pussy.  Living with his parents, in debt, eating sissy ass lesbian vegan food.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2021, 11:17:00 AM
    this girl would kick his ass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 24, 2021, 02:12:25 PM
  this girl would kick his ass.


TV screen + Youtube = funks booorriing life  :-\

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2021, 02:14:37 PM
Such an apologist. ::)

It's a statement of fact

I know you Trumptards hate facts
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2021, 05:31:34 PM
It's a statement of fact

I know you Trumptards hate facts
You wouldn't know a fact if it fucked you in the ass and wiped it's dick on your curtains.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 24, 2021, 05:35:02 PM
    this girl would kick his ass.

Squat weights just as fake as her tits and ass. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 03:37:01 AM
You wouldn't know a fact if it fucked you in the ass and wiped it's dick on your curtains.

 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 25, 2021, 04:40:01 AM
He turned out to be a fucking pussy.  Living with his parents, in debt, eating sissy ass lesbian vegan food.

Like most MillenialTurdz these days, all SHOW, no GO...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 25, 2021, 05:16:38 AM
Another weekend is here - please please please - mofo please!  Clean up the dump.   :D  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 25, 2021, 06:08:43 AM

TV screen + Youtube = funks booorriing life  :-\
   
                                      :D :D :D :D    you forgot posting on getbig, making trumpturds like you cry and training 90 minutes a day   ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 25, 2021, 10:59:21 AM
Is that picture really from 2004?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 25, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Is that picture really from 2004?
   no, the camera's date got stuck, but some of that stuff dates back to 1959. actual gym in that room was from 1979 newest piece is the cable crossover from 2015. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 25, 2021, 11:09:42 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 25, 2021, 12:14:39 PM
    live
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2021, 05:36:47 PM
Filthy front yards.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
Filthy front yards.

 :D

We just lost BoB Straw, he's gone UFO hunting with the Army  :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 26, 2021, 09:48:15 AM
      ain't he just oh so special. 
&t=6s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 26, 2021, 12:13:06 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 26, 2021, 12:16:23 PM
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 26, 2021, 12:22:47 PM
:'( :'( :'( :'(

Genetics. My grandmother lived to 96. Smoked everyday since she was a teen until she went into a nursing home at 94. When she went in they did a full medical exam and her lungs were completely clear. Go figure
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 12:59:13 PM
::) ::) ::)

Why does Mitch McConnell always look like he is scared shitless?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 01:05:35 PM
Genetics. My grandmother lived to 96. Smoked everyday since she was a teen until she went into a nursing home at 94. When she went in they did a full medical exam and her lungs were completely clear. Go figure

Is it possible that she didn't inhale? Also, if didn't smoke filtered cigarettes, she was better off because those filters restrict air flow thus causing one to take a deeper drag which means they would undoubtedly inhale the poisons which cause lung damage. How many cigarettes did she smoke in a day? My mom was never without one from the time she woke up until the time she went to bed. She died from emphysema at 61 years of age. She smoked the day she died.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 26, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
Genetics. My grandmother lived to 96. Smoked everyday since she was a teen until she went into a nursing home at 94. When she went in they did a full medical exam and her lungs were completely clear. Go figure
Some people just have genetics to survive about anything.  My grandfather lived to be 104.  He smoked and drank like a fish until age 50.  He also worked around asbestos for years tearing the stuff out of walls or installing it and never wore a mask.  He never had breathing problems or any lung issues at all.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2021, 11:02:55 AM
Genetics. My grandmother lived to 96. Smoked everyday since she was a teen until she went into a nursing home at 94. When she went in they did a full medical exam and her lungs were completely clear. Go figure
   mr a aau     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2021, 11:05:59 AM
Why does Mitch McConnell always look like he is scared shitless?
     
   
&t=63s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: sync pulse on June 27, 2021, 11:20:48 AM
Genetics. My grandmother lived to 96. Smoked everyday since she was a teen until she went into a nursing home at 94. When she went in they did a full medical exam and her lungs were completely clear. Go figure

Think of your life as a Baccarat shoe...This shoe is filled with cards...Some have Influenza written on them...Some have various cancers and diseases written on them..."Lung Cancer"..."Skin Cancer"..."Emphysema"...The rest of them say "No Disease Today"...

These are all shuffled and loaded in the shoe, and each day you draw a card.

If you have bad habits like smoking, or spending too much time in the Sun...you are loading your "Life Shoe" with extra "Disease Cards" in relation to the "No Disease" cards, increasing your chances of getting something...But not guaranteeing that you will contract something.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2021, 11:31:18 AM
Another weekend on the cusp of being over - Inquiring minds want to know - has the dump been cleared out ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 27, 2021, 11:54:41 AM
Think of your life as a Baccarat shoe...This shoe is filled with cards...Some have Influenza written on them...Some have various cancers and diseases written on them..."Lung Cancer"..."Skin Cancer"..."Emphysema"...The rest of them say "No Disease Today"...

These are all shuffled and loaded in the shoe, and each day you draw a card.

If you have bad habits like smoking, or spending too much time in the Sun...you are loading your "Life Shoe" with extra "Disease Cards" in relation to the "No Disease" cards, increasing your chances of getting something...But not guaranteeing that you will contract something.
Good comparison.  Baccarat is my favorite casino game.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2021, 11:56:46 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 27, 2021, 12:37:29 PM
::) ::) ::)

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1310521;image)

Good one, Funk.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 27, 2021, 12:38:43 PM
Another weekend on the cusp of being over - Inquiring minds want to know - has the dump been cleared out ?
No. funks neighbors are complaining, straws neighbors have been buried, lurkers neighbors started burning trash to escape and prime depends on his hoa to remove the dump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 06:22:09 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 06:50:33 AM
ACLU selling shirts celebrating cheerleader's Snapchat Supreme Court victory
The $40 shirts have, "fuc&  school, softball, cheer, everything" in reference to the student's profanity-laden rant.
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Author: WNEP Web Staff
Published: 10:20 PM EDT June 24, 2021
Updated: 11:00 PM EDT June 24, 2021
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MAHANOY CITY, Pa. — The American Civil Liberties Union won the U.S. Supreme Court case this week defending the First Amendment rights of former Mahanoy Area cheerleader Brandi Levy.

Now, the ACLU is capitalizing off that historic victory.

The organization is selling T-shirts bearing the words of Levy's infamous Snapchat rant, profanity and all.


The same rant that got levy suspended from the cheerleading squad and led to the case before the high court.

The T-shirts are $40 and the ACLU says they're almost all sold out.


Credit: WNEP
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2021, 06:54:43 AM
Yes or no - did Straw at least hire some day laborers at home depot to clean up the dump?  That is the question, YET AGAIN   ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: stuntmovie on June 28, 2021, 08:52:27 AM
FUNK, Thanks for that Broken Arrow video.
I needed that and it came at the right time.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2021, 09:18:14 AM
https://simplyhealth.today/14-horrific-facts-you-didnt-know-about-hoarding/?utm_source=%2Bhoarder&utm_medium=14HorrificFactsYouDidn%27tKnowAboutHoarding&utm_campaign=adw_us&msclkid=52e73fc30e3d1c90cabf5f1af8123834


Straw - seek help for the hoarding.   :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 11:53:29 AM
History's Headlines: Mystery man of Marshall's Hill

History's Headlines: Mystery man of Marshall hill
People driving to Palmerton will probably notice a house on a hill. It is called Marshall's Hill, after General Elisha Marshall. This is the story of that brave man and heroic soldier whose tragic and at times bizarre life led him to the house and the hill.

Elisha Marshall's father was Chauncey Marshall, a Connecticut Yankee entrepreneur. He and his wife, Mary Hotchkiss Ward Marshall, came to Seneca Falls, New York in the 1820s. His most significant business was the Marshall & Adams clock factory. In 1836 Marshall & Adams made $40,000 in profits. But in 1837 Chauncey Marshall's real estate speculations collapsed. Suddenly this father of six found himself bankrupt. Apparently finding the shame too great to bear, he killed himself. His wife did not re-marry.


Elisha, their fourth child, was born on January 26, 1829. On July 1, 1845 he was appointed a cadet at West Point Military Academy. The most historically important of Marshall's classmates was Gouverneur Warren. On July 2, 1863 at Gettysburg, his knowledge of topography led him to recognize that a vital space called the Little Round Top would be essential to the eventual Union victory.

Marshall got his first action by being sent to the western frontier. In 1859, records Marshall's New York Times obituary, he was serving at Fort Mojave, New Mexico, "and at this point he engaged in his first skirmish in a brush with the Indians." In 1860 it was clear the nation was headed for Civil War. Marshall had no doubt about which side he was on. On April 20th 1862 he received a commission with the rank of Colonel in the Army of the Potomac, the main Union fighting force. That May Marshall married his first wife, Hannah Ericson. They were to have two children: a daughter, Nora, who died at the age of 5, and a son, Aaron, who died at the age of 1. Hannah died in 1873.

Throughout 1862 Marshall participated in several major campaigns. At the close of that year Marshall joined in the Union forces- flags flying- that charged into the entrenched Confederate troops at Fredericksburg, where they were killed by the hundreds. Marshall was so severely wounded at Fredericksburg that he was sent home to recover. It was not until June 17th 1864 that he found himself with Grant's forces outside of Petersburg, on the doorstep of the Confederate capital of Richmond, in front of a mass of fortifications that the Army of the Potomac could not crack.


This, on July 30, 1864 put Marshall at the center of what is known as the Battle of the Crater, which Grant was later to call "the saddest thing I have seen in the entire war." A group of soldiers from Schuylkill County, former coal miners turned soldiers, dug a tunnel underneath the Confederate entrenchments. Here they placed 4000 pounds of black powder. The idea was to blow a huge hole in the Rebel lines, so big that they would be stunned. Before they knew what was happening, Union troops would charge either side of the entrenchments, breaking the Petersburg defenses. Marshall's men charged into the crater and were so amazed that they became transfixed by it. "The division was simply there," recalled one eyewitness, "a mass of brave men without orders and without a head." Then the Union soldiers discovered they could not get out of the sheer clay walls of the crater, and that gave the Rebels time to reorganize.

Marshall held his post to the last, refusing to abandon a comrade whose artificial leg made of cork had been splintered by a flying shard of boulder, and left him lying on his back, helpless in the crater. "Men were dead and dying all around us," one officer recalled, "blood was streaming down the sides of the crater to the bottom for a time before being absorbed by the hard clay."

Marshall, severely wounded in a Confederate POW camp in Columbia, South Carolina survived. After Lee's surrender he was released. Marshall resigned his commission in 1869. It was in 1875, two years after his first wife's death, that he met Janet Rutherford, a wealthy woman from a prominent New Jersey family. They met while he was visiting the Rutherford family's Pennsylvania home. Strangely there is no mention of the marriage to Rutherford in Marshall's New York Times obituary.


It was in 1881 that the couple had their fourteen room home built. The builders were said to be local carpenters. After what Marshall had seen and been a part of during the Civil War he could have been easily been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. He was also carrying around an undoubtedly large amount of shell fragments in his body, which must have created almost constant pain.

How long Marshall actually lived in his Palmerton house is a subject of debate. In 1956 a newspaper article claimed, as most sources do, that the house was built in 1881. But Marshall's New York Times obituary gives his death date as August 3, 1883. So he may have only lived there a short time, or perhaps the 1881 date is off by a year or two. Marshall died of his war wounds at the age of 63 while at a rest cure facility for veterans in Canandaigua, New York. He was buried in Mount Hope Cemetery in Rochester, New York. Janet Rutherford lived on in the house as a virtual recluse. She died in Atlantic City in 1911 in a fruitless search for a cure for the cancer that eventually killed her.

Marshall had one more tragic act to play, this time from the grave. In 2000 his body was taken from the grave and the skull removed. The groundskeeper claimed it was probably taken for a satanic ritual. His headless body was reburied.     
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 28, 2021, 11:58:43 AM
Crazy life, Funk. ^
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 12:31:09 PM
Crazy life, Funk. ^
     
     
   
&t=151s   
   when we were kids we used to walk up to this house all the time. I never went in it however.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 12:48:51 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2021, 12:50:36 PM

         
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 28, 2021, 02:28:02 PM
         

funker, do you plan to have another hipsy surgery in the near future  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 29, 2021, 06:19:57 AM
funker, do you plan to have another hipsy surgery in the near future  ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   not if I can help it. I'm so used to them it's not that big a deal as it once was. it's easier to recover from open heart surgery, you just have to wait till sternum bone heals and you're good to train lightly after 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 29, 2021, 09:52:49 AM
      ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 29, 2021, 10:20:49 AM
Funk is the bionic man!!

(https://occ-0-116-114.1.nflxso.net/art/dd52c/1806020a24e91185dedfedf934652bd0731dd52c.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 29, 2021, 12:05:09 PM
      ::) ::) ::) ::)
She looked really good.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 29, 2021, 05:35:54 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   not if I can help it. I'm so used to them it's not that big a deal as it once was. it's easier to recover from open heart surgery, you just have to wait till sternum bone heals and you're good to train lightly after 6 weeks.

Don't BS, you are bullshiting yourself !.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 07:26:44 AM
    :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2021, 07:42:31 AM
    :o :o :o :o

I went to Summer Strong this year.  Was so great and hung out w Pops, Bert, and so many other freaks. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2021, 07:43:36 AM
    :o :o :o :o

Sorinex is FNG awesome.  The HQ is like Disney World for lifters. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 30, 2021, 07:47:26 AM
Sorinex is FNG awesome.  The HQ is like Disney World for lifters.

Spent a lot of time w/ Richard at the old Strongman dinners. Great guy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2021, 07:48:27 AM
Spent a lot of time w/ Richard at the old Strongman dinners. Great guy.

I know his son via Hammer Throw - they are awesome people.   Summer Strong was so fng good this year.   Definately going back next year. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 10:40:59 AM
     
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2021, 10:51:04 AM
     
   


I got to mess around with this rack when I was down there.   Serious piece of equipment.   Built like a damn tank 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on June 30, 2021, 12:05:03 PM
Family is anyone who buys our over-priced equipment.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 01:38:21 PM
Another Trump Obsessed Goon Arrested In Florida For Insurrection
By Carissa House-Dunphy -June 29, 2021
It’s difficult to argue your client’s innocence in court when millions of people have seen photos of him blatantly committing the crime with a giant smile on his face. That’s the conundrum facing the poor, unfortunate attorney of Mitchell Todd Gardner II, the 500th person in America to be arrested for his role in the Capitol riots on January 6, 2021.


Hillsborough man’s arrest makes 500 charged in Capitol riot

Mitchell Todd Gardner II was arrested Friday. 👏🏻
https://t.co/IIldNUMAVR

— LiA (@LibsInAmerica) June 29, 2021

Gardner was arrested and held in the Pinellas County Jail in Tampa, Florida over the weekend, where he awaits a court hearing on both felony and misdemeanor charges including destruction of government property, obstruction of an official proceeding, knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, engaging in disruptive conduct with the intention of disrupting government business, disruption with loud, threatening, and abusive language, and and demonstrating inside the Capitol Building.

According to Tampa Bay Times:

‘MITCHELL TODD GARDNER II, WHOM FEDERAL PROSECUTORS SAID HAS NO FIXED ADDRESS BUT RECENTLY LIVED AT A HOME IN SEFFNER, WAS ARRESTED FRIDAY AND HELD IN THE PINELLAS COUNTY JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND.

‘HE MADE HIS FIRST APPEARANCE MONDAY AFTERNOON IN A TAMPA FEDERAL COURTROOM. HE WAS TOLD THAT HE FACES SIX PENDING CHARGES, INCLUDING DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY AND IMPEDING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING, BOTH FELONIES.’

New Capitol case: Mitchell Todd Gardner was arrested in Tampa, Florida, on Friday. Feds say he smashed a Capitol window and sprayed a canister at police on Jan. 6. He wore a Reagan-Bush sweatshirt. Case unsealed today.#leatherhaneshisway #SeditionHunters pic.twitter.com/jsn6HwoFJt

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 28, 2021

Gardner is not only suspected of having participated in the violence and destruction of the mob on Jan. 6, but of being a ringleader, which could make a significant difference in what charges he will eventually face and the sentencing that may come with it.

‘THE PROSECUTOR DESCRIBED HIM AS HAVING TAKEN A “DE FACTO LEADERSHIP ROLE” IN THE RIOTS. HE WAS SEEN ON A LEDGE OUTSIDE THE SENATE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, USING A RED CANISTER IN A BLACK CASE TO BREAK A WINDOW, ACCORDING TO A STATEMENT OF FACTS THAT ACCOMPANIED A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT. HE THEN ENTERED THE BUILDING AND GESTURED FOR OTHERS TO JOIN HIM. GARDNER WAS ALSO SEEN SPRAYING AN UNKNOWN LIQUID FROM THE CANISTER AT CAPITOL POLICE OFFICERS, THE COMPLAINT STATES.’

Feds unseal charges against another Capitol rioter, Mitchell Todd Gardner, who was arrested in Tampa, Florida.

Affidavit includes photos showing Gardner breaking through a Senate Mezzanine window with some kind of canister. pic.twitter.com/5TI0f2fkRW

— Alex Mallin (@alex_mallin) June 28, 2021

Like the other defendants before him, Gardner now faces a courtroom where he will have to defend actions that were caught on camera and proudly spread across social media. A witness says that Gardner admitted to them that “things got a little crazy” and confirmed his participation in the riots.

‘THE PROSECUTOR ALLUDED TO VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT SHOWS GARDNER’S PARTICIPATION.

‘“THE DEFENDANT’S FACIAL EXPRESSION SAYS IT ALL,” SHE SAID. “THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS REJOICING IN HIS UNLAWFUL CONDUCT.”’
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 01:39:51 PM
Another Trump Obsessed Goon Arrested In Florida For Insurrection
By Carissa House-Dunphy -June 29, 2021
It’s difficult to argue your client’s innocence in court when millions of people have seen photos of him blatantly committing the crime with a giant smile on his face. That’s the conundrum facing the poor, unfortunate attorney of Mitchell Todd Gardner II, the 500th person in America to be arrested for his role in the Capitol riots on January 6, 2021.


Hillsborough man’s arrest makes 500 charged in Capitol riot

Mitchell Todd Gardner II was arrested Friday. 👏🏻
https://t.co/IIldNUMAVR

— LiA (@LibsInAmerica) June 29, 2021

Gardner was arrested and held in the Pinellas County Jail in Tampa, Florida over the weekend, where he awaits a court hearing on both felony and misdemeanor charges including destruction of government property, obstruction of an official proceeding, knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, engaging in disruptive conduct with the intention of disrupting government business, disruption with loud, threatening, and abusive language, and and demonstrating inside the Capitol Building.

According to Tampa Bay Times:

‘MITCHELL TODD GARDNER II, WHOM FEDERAL PROSECUTORS SAID HAS NO FIXED ADDRESS BUT RECENTLY LIVED AT A HOME IN SEFFNER, WAS ARRESTED FRIDAY AND HELD IN THE PINELLAS COUNTY JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND.

‘HE MADE HIS FIRST APPEARANCE MONDAY AFTERNOON IN A TAMPA FEDERAL COURTROOM. HE WAS TOLD THAT HE FACES SIX PENDING CHARGES, INCLUDING DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY AND IMPEDING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING, BOTH FELONIES.’

New Capitol case: Mitchell Todd Gardner was arrested in Tampa, Florida, on Friday. Feds say he smashed a Capitol window and sprayed a canister at police on Jan. 6. He wore a Reagan-Bush sweatshirt. Case unsealed today.#leatherhaneshisway #SeditionHunters pic.twitter.com/jsn6HwoFJt

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 28, 2021

Gardner is not only suspected of having participated in the violence and destruction of the mob on Jan. 6, but of being a ringleader, which could make a significant difference in what charges he will eventually face and the sentencing that may come with it.

‘THE PROSECUTOR DESCRIBED HIM AS HAVING TAKEN A “DE FACTO LEADERSHIP ROLE” IN THE RIOTS. HE WAS SEEN ON A LEDGE OUTSIDE THE SENATE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, USING A RED CANISTER IN A BLACK CASE TO BREAK A WINDOW, ACCORDING TO A STATEMENT OF FACTS THAT ACCOMPANIED A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT. HE THEN ENTERED THE BUILDING AND GESTURED FOR OTHERS TO JOIN HIM. GARDNER WAS ALSO SEEN SPRAYING AN UNKNOWN LIQUID FROM THE CANISTER AT CAPITOL POLICE OFFICERS, THE COMPLAINT STATES.’

Feds unseal charges against another Capitol rioter, Mitchell Todd Gardner, who was arrested in Tampa, Florida.

Affidavit includes photos showing Gardner breaking through a Senate Mezzanine window with some kind of canister. pic.twitter.com/5TI0f2fkRW

— Alex Mallin (@alex_mallin) June 28, 2021

Like the other defendants before him, Gardner now faces a courtroom where he will have to defend actions that were caught on camera and proudly spread across social media. A witness says that Gardner admitted to them that “things got a little crazy” and confirmed his participation in the riots.

‘THE PROSECUTOR ALLUDED TO VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT SHOWS GARDNER’S PARTICIPATION.

‘“THE DEFENDANT’S FACIAL EXPRESSION SAYS IT ALL,” SHE SAID. “THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS REJOICING IN HIS UNLAWFUL CONDUCT.”’
           
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
           

               
   better version
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2021, 01:44:07 PM
   are you not inspired ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on June 30, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
funk51 ran out of medication today.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 01, 2021, 09:55:16 AM
funk51 ran out of medication today.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D yup, the more things change the more they stay the same.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 01, 2021, 10:01:32 AM
   
   
       
              ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2021, 10:04:12 AM
This dump and hoarder situation must be disastrous by now and why 40 of SF residents are planning to leave CA altogether. 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/more-than-40-of-san-francisco-residents-planning-to-leave-deteriorating-city-poll?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR3HiM7GDJYtyfgyePdpSVtJQbNdvsEBKhWDFY_rfYXImymOogA2kR-Z2GU
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 01, 2021, 10:43:19 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 01, 2021, 11:27:21 AM
I love when Libturds go after Trump and ignore Creepy Joe's illegal money, Hilary's daughters wedding paid for w/ her charity, etc.

Comical libtardz. Hypocrites.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2021, 11:36:26 AM
I love when Libturds go after Trump and ignore Creepy Joe's illegal money, Hilary's daughters wedding paid for w/ her charity, etc.

Comical libtardz. Hypocrites.



Hillary's daughter closing up a charity that "had" hundreds of millions it never paid out. Goes on and on....but Trump owns some hotels.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 01, 2021, 02:14:24 PM
    some much for pervy joe. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2021, 03:44:31 PM
    some much for pervy joe. ::)


You missed the memo about the age thing I guess.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2021, 05:59:28 PM
    some much for pervy joe. ::)

At least those are adults
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 01, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
    some much for pervy joe. ::)

Don't be this ignorant, Funk.  You know very well what I mean by this.  I despise libs. Biden is a TURDLE of a lib.  Go ahead.  Go there.  This ain't the real world my young friend.  You aren't stirring the  pot or the shit.  You are just being ignorant on this subject.  Do as you desire.  This shit is not worthy of respect. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2021, 05:08:13 AM
At least those are adults
   
Trump the predator
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006.
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006. Photograph: Patrick McMullan/Getty Images
A new book uncovers fresh allegations of the president’s inappropriate sexual behaviour

Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, additional reporting by Lucy Osborne
Sat 19 Oct 2019 04.58 EDT

We all know the story by now. In 2005, Donald Trump was caught on tape bragging that his fame allowed him to sexually assault women. In 2016, as he was running for president, that recording, the so-called Access Hollywood tape, was made public, resulting in a stream of women coming forward and alleging that Trump had groped or otherwise sexually assaulted them. He was elected anyway; the women’s stories didn’t seem to matter. But they should.

If we have understood one thing in the two years since actor Alyssa Milano tweeted #MeToo, sending the then 11-year-old phrase viral, it is that when women are not listened to, men in positions of power are left free to abuse their authority. When the accused abuser is the president of the United States, those allegations and how they are handled matter all the more. Thanks to his bully pulpit, Trump’s words and actions resonate far beyond the deeds themselves.

And then there is the question of collective responsibility. If we avert our eyes from the allegations of Trump’s abuse because we find it distasteful, we tacitly endorse his behaviour. When we dismiss or ignore his objectification and denigration of women, we legitimise it. Leaving these attitudes and actions unchecked allows them to proliferate.

When the recording was released, Trump brushed it off as “locker-room banter”. A short time later he denied having had affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. We, however, conducted more than 100 interviews in the course of researching our book All the President’s Women and found that the language and the affairs were not mere aberrations. Since his campaign, Trump has already faced allegations from nearly two dozen women. Our book reveals another 43 allegations, bringing the total to 67 accusations of inappropriate behaviour, including 26 instances of unwanted sexual contact. In short, far from being occasional or accidental, his alleged misconduct with women was regular and widespread. We found that Trump repeatedly and systematically engaged in aggressive sexual pursuit of women over many decades and that his alleged behaviour followed discernible patterns. One of those was a predilection for young models.

All of a sudden she heard someone shout: 'Put your robes on, here he comes!'
In the early 1980s, NaKina Carr was working in New York for Oscar de la Renta and was backstage in the models’ dressing room at one of his fashion shows when she heard Trump’s name mentioned for the first time. She was getting ready when all of a sudden she heard someone shout: “Put your robes on, here he comes!”

At 21, the Texas native was already on the older side for a catwalk model, who generally start working when they are in their teens, but she was new to New York and had no idea what was going on. “I didn’t know what they were talking about … but suddenly everyone threw on their dressing robes,” Carr said, speaking publicly about her memories of Trump for the first time. Carr asked another woman what was wrong, and she pointed to a man across the room. “She said: ‘He’s the money man. He can do whatever he wants … Unless you’re a gold digger, you avoid him at all costs.’”

Trump walked in as if he owned the place, according to Carr’s account, with a pregnant Ivana, his first wife, trailing behind him. “He threw his arms wide open and said: ‘OK now ladies, drop ’em,’” Carr said. “The one thing I’ll always remember is the dejected look on Ivana’s face in the dressing room. I thought how horrible, that he would treat her in this way.”

As Trump strode around the dressing room, Carr concealed herself behind a pillar, incredulous that someone would be so crude. “The other girls were obviously afraid of him, like they knew he meant it and it wasn’t a joke,” she said. The model was later assured that she was not Trump’s type – at the time the rumours among modelling insiders was that he preferred younger women. “If you’re over 21 you don’t have to worry,” Carr said she was told.

Those rumours appear to be backed up by other accounts of Trump during that era. Model Barbara Pilling was not yet 18 when her booker took her to a party a few days after her arrival in New York, in the summer of 1989. Trump was also in attendance. Pilling didn’t know who the real estate developer was, but she noticed him looking at her. “I could see him eyeing me up and watching me,” she said. She claims that once he caught her gaze, Trump started talking to her. “I remember him saying: ‘Oh, how old are you?’ And I said 17, and he said: ‘That’s just great; you’re not too old, not too young.’”

Pilling said Trump tried to make small talk with her for a while, but his gaze kept veering to her chest. He asked her if she liked where she was living and said he knew great places she could stay if she didn’t. Trump offered to show her the city and to take her to dinner. He told her she was gorgeous, like a dark-haired Marilyn Monroe, and asked her if she would ever consider going blond. “I was starting to feel uncomfortable,” Pilling remembered. “It’s not a nice feeling for a young girl to have an older man making advances on her.” Another model standing nearby whispered to Pilling that Trump clearly liked her, and explained who he was. “I wasn’t impressed by it. I mean, I was only 17.”

From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017.
From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017. Photograph: Andrew Kelly/Reuters
Pilling eventually excused herself to go to the restroom, where yet another woman was talking about the developer. “She said he grabbed her ass and kept going for her and was all hands,” Pilling said. Between that and her own conversation with him, Pilling was so disturbed that she left the party without saying goodbye to anyone.

When the Australian Shayna Love was living in New York in 1991, she says models were encouraged to attend dinners that became occasions for “men to pick up girls”. “You’d go to these things and look pretty, give the men attention,” Love said. She was 16 at the time and part of the Elite model agency’s “New Faces” campaign. “We might as well have been called ‘fresh meat’.” Love recalled a dinner with Trump. “This time it was a private area, a big table and lots of girls – I’d say around 10 to 15 of us, all between the ages of 14 and 18,” she said. “It was just us models, Trump and [Elite founder] John [Casablancas]. We were all underage, but we were offered drinks.” Love said she went home early, but other girls stayed.

Trump was often seen with Casablancas. He hosted events for Elite’s modelling contests at his New York properties and provided lodging for the contestants. Eli Nessa had just turned 17 and was representing Norway during one such Elite competition hosted by Trump’s hotel in the early 90s. In addition to the events for the competition, the women were expected to attend several nights of parties. “There were all these older men,” she said. “It was so seedy.” Nessa was accompanied by her agent, but other women appeared to be alone. “I remember this Italian girl, extremely naive, who couldn’t speak any English. She was easy prey. They were all around her,” Nessa said. “We were a bunch of kids, just put there with all these older men.”

Heather Braden was also an Elite model and, in the late 90s, alleges that she was instructed to go to a party in a mansion on one of the islands off Miami Beach. Trump was going to be there, she was told. Braden went with a couple of friends who were also models. When they arrived, the first thing they saw was a table manned by two security guards. The models were handed papers. “I presume they were NDAs for us to sign,” Braden recalled. They ignored the papers and walked into a big room where there were about 50 models. In her mid-20s, Braden was one of the oldest women there. Many were from eastern Europe and didn’t speak English, so Braden and her friends kept to themselves.

They found the party odd. There was no DJ, no food, and no bartender – though there were drinks, Braden remembers. “It was very awkward from the beginning,” she said years later. “Fifty females in this room, no real hosts. Very unusual. And then down this large staircase, in front of all of us, there was Donald Trump and behind him there were three actors, 40s, maybe 50s. I don’t want to name them because they’re all still around.” The actors were famous. “They came down the stairs and spread out like sharks among the girls,” who had broken up into little clusters throughout the room. “Obviously, some of these younger girls were starstruck.”

John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991.
John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991. Photograph: Ron Galella/Getty Images
Braden said she had been in the industry long enough to understand what was happening. “Clearly, we were there for one reason. We were just pieces of meat.” At a typical fashion industry party, there would be a mix of people, men of different ages, male models, men in the business. Not here. Braden believed that this party had been set up specifically for Trump and the three actors. “This was not eye candy,” she said. “Sometimes you’re brought to these big parties like that, but this was different.”

From a couch in the farthest corner of the room, Braden and her friends watched as each man made his way through the knots of models. They started with the standard opening lines, asking the women their names and where they were from. “Five minutes later – this is what they did to me: ‘You want to come upstairs?’ It was anything from, ‘You want to see the rest of the house?’ to ‘Do you want to see the bedroom? The view?’ Or ‘Do you want to partake in party favours?’ That was the terminology,” Braden said. “Sometimes there’d be a couple of girls that would go up together.” Braden said Trump approached her at the party, and chuckled when she turned him down.

In addition to Casablancas, whose marriage ended after he had an affair with a 16-year-old Stephanie Seymour and who later married another one of his models when she was 17, Trump’s social circle in the early 90s included Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender who allegedly ran a sex ring of underage girls. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor and in July 2019 was charged with two federal counts of sex trafficking before being found dead in his prison cell in an apparent suicide in August. Trump once said of Epstein: “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Eventually Trump found an easier way to surround himself with models: he started his own agency. Trump Model Management launched in 1999, the same year Trump divorced Marla Maples. When Leonardo DiCaprio – another man with a taste for women who walk the runway – heard about Trump’s new venture, he approvingly dubbed it “one-stop date shopping”.

'Clearly, we were there for one reason … We were just pieces of meat'
Now Trump had the models coming to him, and it is alleged that he introduced them to his sons. Ksenia Maximova said she worked for Trump Model Management in 2003 and 2004, and again a few years later. In 2004, when the Russian-British model was 18, her agent summoned her to a meeting in Trump Tower. “He said: ‘Oh, we’re just going to meet the owner of the agency,’” she said, speaking publicly for the first time about the encounter. “And then he told me to get all dressed up, properly, because I was quite tomboyish, so he did tell me to put a nice dress on and some high heels and stuff.”

Maximova complied, and she and her agent took the elevator to Trump’s offices. The developer was at his desk with Donald Jr, then 26, standing behind him, although they weren’t introduced so Maximova didn’t know this was Trump’s son. She settled on a chair and Trump and her agent began talking. “I was just kind of sitting there,” she said. Trump asked her a few questions but for the most part didn’t address her. Donald Jr was generally silent, too. “It was all really awkward because it was like: ‘Let the grownups do the talking,’ kind of thing,” she said. “It was just like I didn’t matter and he didn’t matter. I just thought he was some aide or something.”

Maximova was made to feel so inconsequential that she began wondering why she had been brought there in the first place. “I didn’t really get introduced much. It was more like just to actually show me, visually. It wasn’t like anyone was interested in my personality or anything like that, so I was like: ‘What’s the point in this?’” She asked her agent as much when they were back in the elevator on their way down to the street. “We’ve heard that [Trump’s son] is maybe looking for a girlfriend now,” Maximova claims her agent told her. “That’s when I got really angry and told him off and asked him to never, ever, please, do this kind of thing again, especially without my consent.”

But even before he put the Trump brand on young models, he had found another business that ensured he would have a steady supply of beautiful young women in his life. In 1996, he purchased the Miss Universe Organisation, which also operates the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants. “It’s a very, very great entertainment format,” he said at the time. “It gets very high ratings, it’s doing very well and we’ll make it even better.” Trump’s improvement plan? “I made sure the women were really beautiful because they were getting a little bit not as beautiful. They had a person who was extremely proud that a number of women had become doctors. And I wasn’t interested,” he said on the Howard Stern radio show. “I made the bikinis smaller and the heels higher,” he told the late-night TV host David Letterman in 2010.

Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012.
Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012. Photograph: AP
From the very beginning, Trump exercised what he saw as the owner’s prerogative. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” Trump told Stern in 2005. “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

At times, Trump’s gaze was more targeted. Samantha Holvey told CNN that when she was 20 and competing in the 2006 Miss USA pageant, Trump made pointed visual inspections of all the contestants. “He would step in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people,” she said. “You know when a gross guy at the bar is checking you out? It’s that feeling.” Being ogled by Trump made Holvey feel “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life”. She and her fellow contestants were also invited to private parties filled with “old, rich, drunk guys ogling all over us”, Holvey said.

These women are just a sample of those who have come forward with accusations against Trump; new allegations continue to emerge. And while Trump is the most visible of the influential men accused of predatory behaviour, he is far from an outlier, as even a cursory glance at recent headlines illustrates. Jeffrey Epstein. Harvey Weinstein. R Kelly. Hundreds of men were brought down in the wake of #MeToo as women began to share their stories.

Still, these reckonings, while important, are not the ultimate solution, because the individual men are not themselves the core of the problem; that runs much deeper. These abuses took place over the course of decades and were far from secret. All too often, institutions sacrificed accusers to protect themselves and the coteries that ran them. If lasting and significant change is to take place, it will require a significant overhaul of the systems and societal attitudes that allowed that to happen.

 Edited and extracted from All The President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator by Barry Levine & Monique El-Faizy, published in the UK on 23 October by Trapeze (£20) – to order a copy go to guardianbookshop,com – and in the US on 22 October by Hachette ($29). It is published in Australia on 23 October by Hachette ($32.99). Also available as an audiobook. Lucy Osborne, whose reporting contributed to the book, continues to investigate Trump and women. Her email is lucy.osborne@theguardian.com

                               
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 02, 2021, 05:17:21 AM
She and her turkey neck wish Trump would inspect her now.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2021, 05:33:46 AM
She and her turkey neck wish Trump would inspect her now.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  she really did go down hill quick.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2021, 06:49:49 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 03, 2021, 05:30:38 AM
Why Did Gold’s Gym Become So Popular?
   by Conor Heffernan
APRIL 19, 2021
FILED UNDER:
TRAINING
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In 1965, former bodybuilder and US Marine, Joe Gold opened up a gym in Venice California as a place for himself and his friends to train. Charging $60 a year, Joe kept costs down by making his own gym equipment, skimping on the heating and recruiting every bodybuilder worth his salt as a member.

Unbeknownst to Joe, his simple gym would eventually become an institution in the fitness world.


Why open a gym?
Since the early 1950s muscle men had flocked to California to join the growing bodybuilding community at Venice Beach. Back then the Santa Monica Pier severed as the go to gym for aspiring muscle men.

Crudely decked out on a wooden platform lifters competed over free weights, rings, dip and chin up bars. It wasn’t unknown for legends such like Steve Reeves to train in Santa Monica. In 1959 however, things changed.

Following allegations of sexual misconduct by a small cohort of bodybuilders, a decision was taken by the Santa Monica City Council to pull weights from the beach. Bodybuilders were seen as an anti-social group and the decision to force them from the beaches and into small indoor gyms hardly helped matters.

Bodybuilders begrudgingly made their way into nearby gyms like the Dungeon, Wilshire or Muscle Beach Gym. There was one bodybuilder who wasn’t content with the selection of gyms on offer.

In 1965, Joe Gold decided to open his own training facility for himself and his former Santa Monica compatriots. A man well versed in the comings and goings of the real estate market, Gold by then had amassed a tidy number of beachfront properties for a small sum. Joe soon decided that one of his properties on Pacific Avenue would serve as his new gym.

joe-gold-cropJoe Gold in his prime

Gold had chosen his location well. Santa Monica’s lifters were Joe’s first pool of members and when rumors began to emerge around Venice that Gold was opening up a serious training gym, lifters could hardly contain their excitement. Dick Tyler writing in August 1965 being one such example;

Here’s big news to all the BIG men reading this column. Well-known California muscle man, Joe Gold will soon be opening a gym at 1006 Pacific Ave. in Venice. For those of you who now know, Venice is just a stone’s throw from famed Muscle Beach. Joe, who owns some real estate hereabouts, is building the gym from the ground up. Nothing “made over” for Joe. Now this is going to be a gym for men. No fancy rugs or chrome – just plain old-fashioned weights and the greatest apparatus you ever saw.

How’s this for dumbbells? The gym will have two complete sets of dumbbells going from 10 lbs. to 80lbs. in five pound jumps. From there they’ll go to 150 lbs. by tens. Already Joe is having equipment made to order for the specialists. Joe is a Weider man and you can bet your bottom dollar that this is going to be a hot bed of training for Southern California strong men. Co-managing will be ole Zabo Koszewski himself. How can they miss? Those of you not already here in “Sunsville” better make Gold’s gym a tourist attraction.

Tyler’s predictions that the gym would be a hot bed of training proved to be true. Within five years Gold’s boasted a veritable who’s who of the bodybuilding scene with legends like Zane, Arnold and Franco all regular attendees but as the gym became increasingly popular, its owner became increasingly disgruntled. The gym was a money pit.

In 1970, Joe Gold sold the gym for $50,000 and became a merchant marine.

The Birth of Mecca
With Joe Gold now out at high seas, Gold’s Gym fell into the hands of Dave Saxe and Bud Danitz who ran the gym for a little over two years before selling it on to Ken Sprague. Sprague had been training at Golds since 1969 and as owner he would oversee its first expansion.

Almost immediately after buying the gym Sprague began sponsoring bodybuilding contests, which regularly drew upwards of 5,000 fans. Sensing the need to attract greater and greater audience numbers, Sprague would create circus spectacles where half-clad bodybuilders would rid atop bull elephants to the music of brass bands. Amidst all this chaos, the Gold’s Gym logo would be brandished.

7046091-MSprague would put the Gold’s logo on anything he could

As luck would have it, it was the logo that helped Golds spread across California. In 1973, Ric Drasin created a new logo for Gold’s Gym on the back of a napkin. The logo of a bald brooding lifter, caught Sprague’s attention, who instantly began putting them on Gold’s Gym T-shirts. Every the promoter, Sprague would have bodybuilders wear them during photo ops and on the beach. The strategy paid off too. At one point Sprague was selling t-shirts faster than he could mail them out.

goldsgymlogoricdrasinDra sin’s Gold’s Logo was an instant hit

By 1975, Sprague had cemented Gold’s position as THE place to train for bodybuilders. It was a mecca for men of strength and a golden age for bodybuilding. Al Antuck musings in Ironman magazine showed as much

Why are some restaurants and other establishments the “in” places to go?…Whatever it is, Gold’s Gym on Pacific Avenue, one block from the beach in Venice, California has it. Gold’s attracts many of the top California physique stars — Schwarzenegger, Zane, Draper, Columbu, Bill Grant, Birdsong, to name a few….

Gold’s is a bodybuilders’ gym. Here you won’t find business men types who work out just to stay in shape. Most members are bodybuilders who work hard to gain bulk, density and symmetry, and they work hard with minimum time for kibitzing or goofing-off.

The idea that Gold’s was some form of Bodybuilding Mecca was born but there was something the sport still lacked. Mainstream acceptance.

Pumping Iron and Going Hollywood
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In 1974, freelance photographer George Butler and his partner, novelist Charles Gaines, called Sprague about the possibility of filming some of the bodybuilders in California. The two men had been responsible for Pumping Iron  a book on the subculture of bodybuilding published that same year, which had met with financial success. The clear interest in bodybuilding from the general public encouraged the two men their work to the silver screen.

Despite the success of Pumping Iron the book, Gaines and Butler failed to secure any real form of funding for a movie. Studios were doubtful that a documentary on a niche subculture would garner any interest whatsoever. Not that the lack of support deterred the two men. Keeping costs to the bear minimum, Butler and Gaines managed to raise enough money for the necessary equipment and a contract for the star Arnold Schwarzenegger ($50,000 for the Austrian Oak’s services). Luckily for the aspiring film makers, they managed to secure a free venue for the majority of their filming, none other than Gold’s Gym. There the two men would film legends like Arnold, Columbu, Waller and countless others lift weights with unparallelled intensity.

Pumping-IronStill from Pumping Iron

The movie itself was shot over the course of a month and detailed the epic bodybuilding battle between Arnold and Lou Ferrigno for the 1975 Mr. Universe and Mr. Olympia titles. Aside from the constant financial worry the two men faced, they also had to deal with massaging the egos of the periphery lifters. Whilst Arnold was earning $50,000, the rest were given paltry contracts, something that irked the men in Golds. Every now and then, scenes would have to be re-shot after a disgruntled bodybuilder deliberately stepped into frame. Eventually however, deals were struck and by the end of 1975, Butler had all but wrapped up shooting the movie.

All he had to show for his work was a single print of the movie and no means of promoting it. For two years, the movie sat in the back offices of studios in what film buffs refer to as development hell. Frustrated that his movie would never see the light of day, Butler rented out space at the Whitney Museum in New York and had Arnold and Ken Waller pose on rotating discs to raise money. To increase interest in the event, Butler arranged for Candice Bergen to be a celebrity commentator and made noise about the fact that Arnold, then a Golden Glove winner for his performance in Stay Hunger would be posing. The theme of the exhibition was living art and surprisingly, the art critics loved it. Butler had only expected 500 people to show up. Instead he got 5,000 and more money than he could fit in the registers. The publicity stunt worked, and allowed Butler to finish production on his movie.

In 1977 Pumping Iron finally hit US scenes and although fewer than one million Americans ended up seeing it that year, a buzz had been created. Soon after the movie’s release stars such as Clint Eastwood and Muhammad Ali began to show up at Golds looking to train at the Mecca of bodybuilding. Hollywood and popular culture became hooked on muscle.

The following years saw Arnold become a movie star with flicks such as Conan, Ferrigno become the Hulk and mainstream actors like Stallone, Weathers and Eastwood display chiseled physiques in their movies. Sprague’s Golds suddenly began to feature in fashion magazines and even a piece on 60 minutes. During this time, dues at Golds reached $200, a far cry from the $60 Joe Gold had charged in the beginning.

Gold’s in the 1980s
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By the 1980s bodybuilding and fitness in general had entered the mainstream, sadly Sprague would not be part of it. In the late 1970s following a personal tragedy, Sprague sold Golds on to Pete Grymkowski, Tim Kimber and Ed Connors. The three men would help expand Golds’ influence across the US.

In 1980 Connors commissioned the first ever licensed Gold’s Gym in San Francisco in 1980 and began spawning out licensees across the US. By 1981, there were over 5,000 Golds in the United States. Connors appears to have had a keen eye for the fitness industry, opening up the first group fitness class in Golds in 1981, about a decade before such movements became popular.

The 1980s were a period of sustained growth for the club, both domestically and abroad. In 1985 the gym went international, opening up its first branch in Canada to the joy of Canadian lifters everywhere. Unsurprisingly, the growing expansion of the gym franchise meant that the Gold brand began to pop up everywhere in American popular culture. The iconic Drasin designed t-shirts was worn by Carl Weathers in an SNL skit and by numerous celebrity figures in other TV shows and films during this time.

The Nineties
By the time the 1980s rolled into the 90s, Golds membership established itself as a status symbol, with some scholars arguing that it became the McDonalds of the fitness community. From Janet Jackson to Michael Jordan, the Golds brand was pictured with a plethora of celebrities. By 1993 the gym franchises had over one million members and Gold’s trainers were often presented as experts in the field appearing in local and regional magazines with the latest fitness tips.

In 1996, chains were opened in Europe and Asia, including Moscow. Less than 5 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Gold’s Gym, an American institution had found it’s way into the heart of Russia.

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Gold’s Gym became a worldwide phenomena

The continued success of the chain did have its downsides however. Catering to larger and larger demographics meant that Golds was forced to move with the winds of the fitness industry. The releative re-birth of the cardio age saw Golds shift its focus more towards treadmills, steppers and group classes. Free weights were still there, but now they took a secondary place to everything else the gym had to offer. During the 90s, the franchise would be bought by Brockway Moran for an undisclosed fee. The private equity firm would spend five years acquiring other gyms and branching out the chain even further.

2000 to Present Day
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In 2004, Gold’s was bought by TRT Holdings for over $150 million. TRT Holdings slowly but surely helped Gold’s evolve even further into a cross-sector company that happened to specialize in fitness.

In 2004, the company created its own Gold’s Gym Fitness Institute to serve as a think tank on critical health and fitness issues. The same year also saw Gold’s branch out and become a national fitness sponsor of the American Diabetes Association’s Tour de Cure. In 2009, Gold’s released a Cardio workout on the Nintendo Wii. All of which serves to demonstrate how Gold’s has moved away from being solely a gym into a multi-agency machine.

TRT never slowed down on Gold’s expansion either. At the time of writing the gym franchise boasts 400 locations in 37 U.S. states and 20 other countries with over three million members worldwide. It’s a far cry from the cold shack opened up by Joe Gold for his buddies in the ’60s.

 

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2021, 05:22:19 PM
Funk51 flat out acting the fool as usual.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 03, 2021, 05:26:19 PM
Funk51 flat out acting the fool as usual.

I for one don't understand why he is  doing so.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 04, 2021, 04:44:40 AM
     
                                  just trying to get coach's thread to 100 pages which will be a milestone for him, and at the same time finally purging myself of the dreaded TDS disease, when this thread reaches the magic 100 milestone it will be gone. hopefully BDS won't kick in.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2021, 05:29:42 AM
Straw it’s Independence Day.    Free yourself from the mess and the clutter and chaos.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 04, 2021, 07:23:29 AM
I for one don't understand why he is  doing so.
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on July 04, 2021, 10:20:51 AM
   
Trump the predator
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006.
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006. Photograph: Patrick McMullan/Getty Images
A new book uncovers fresh allegations of the president’s inappropriate sexual behaviour

Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, additional reporting by Lucy Osborne
Sat 19 Oct 2019 04.58 EDT

We all know the story by now. In 2005, Donald Trump was caught on tape bragging that his fame allowed him to sexually assault women. In 2016, as he was running for president, that recording, the so-called Access Hollywood tape, was made public, resulting in a stream of women coming forward and alleging that Trump had groped or otherwise sexually assaulted them. He was elected anyway; the women’s stories didn’t seem to matter. But they should.

If we have understood one thing in the two years since actor Alyssa Milano tweeted #MeToo, sending the then 11-year-old phrase viral, it is that when women are not listened to, men in positions of power are left free to abuse their authority. When the accused abuser is the president of the United States, those allegations and how they are handled matter all the more. Thanks to his bully pulpit, Trump’s words and actions resonate far beyond the deeds themselves.

And then there is the question of collective responsibility. If we avert our eyes from the allegations of Trump’s abuse because we find it distasteful, we tacitly endorse his behaviour. When we dismiss or ignore his objectification and denigration of women, we legitimise it. Leaving these attitudes and actions unchecked allows them to proliferate.

When the recording was released, Trump brushed it off as “locker-room banter”. A short time later he denied having had affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. We, however, conducted more than 100 interviews in the course of researching our book All the President’s Women and found that the language and the affairs were not mere aberrations. Since his campaign, Trump has already faced allegations from nearly two dozen women. Our book reveals another 43 allegations, bringing the total to 67 accusations of inappropriate behaviour, including 26 instances of unwanted sexual contact. In short, far from being occasional or accidental, his alleged misconduct with women was regular and widespread. We found that Trump repeatedly and systematically engaged in aggressive sexual pursuit of women over many decades and that his alleged behaviour followed discernible patterns. One of those was a predilection for young models.

All of a sudden she heard someone shout: 'Put your robes on, here he comes!'
In the early 1980s, NaKina Carr was working in New York for Oscar de la Renta and was backstage in the models’ dressing room at one of his fashion shows when she heard Trump’s name mentioned for the first time. She was getting ready when all of a sudden she heard someone shout: “Put your robes on, here he comes!”

At 21, the Texas native was already on the older side for a catwalk model, who generally start working when they are in their teens, but she was new to New York and had no idea what was going on. “I didn’t know what they were talking about … but suddenly everyone threw on their dressing robes,” Carr said, speaking publicly about her memories of Trump for the first time. Carr asked another woman what was wrong, and she pointed to a man across the room. “She said: ‘He’s the money man. He can do whatever he wants … Unless you’re a gold digger, you avoid him at all costs.’”

Trump walked in as if he owned the place, according to Carr’s account, with a pregnant Ivana, his first wife, trailing behind him. “He threw his arms wide open and said: ‘OK now ladies, drop ’em,’” Carr said. “The one thing I’ll always remember is the dejected look on Ivana’s face in the dressing room. I thought how horrible, that he would treat her in this way.”

As Trump strode around the dressing room, Carr concealed herself behind a pillar, incredulous that someone would be so crude. “The other girls were obviously afraid of him, like they knew he meant it and it wasn’t a joke,” she said. The model was later assured that she was not Trump’s type – at the time the rumours among modelling insiders was that he preferred younger women. “If you’re over 21 you don’t have to worry,” Carr said she was told.

Those rumours appear to be backed up by other accounts of Trump during that era. Model Barbara Pilling was not yet 18 when her booker took her to a party a few days after her arrival in New York, in the summer of 1989. Trump was also in attendance. Pilling didn’t know who the real estate developer was, but she noticed him looking at her. “I could see him eyeing me up and watching me,” she said. She claims that once he caught her gaze, Trump started talking to her. “I remember him saying: ‘Oh, how old are you?’ And I said 17, and he said: ‘That’s just great; you’re not too old, not too young.’”

Pilling said Trump tried to make small talk with her for a while, but his gaze kept veering to her chest. He asked her if she liked where she was living and said he knew great places she could stay if she didn’t. Trump offered to show her the city and to take her to dinner. He told her she was gorgeous, like a dark-haired Marilyn Monroe, and asked her if she would ever consider going blond. “I was starting to feel uncomfortable,” Pilling remembered. “It’s not a nice feeling for a young girl to have an older man making advances on her.” Another model standing nearby whispered to Pilling that Trump clearly liked her, and explained who he was. “I wasn’t impressed by it. I mean, I was only 17.”

From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017.
From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017. Photograph: Andrew Kelly/Reuters
Pilling eventually excused herself to go to the restroom, where yet another woman was talking about the developer. “She said he grabbed her ass and kept going for her and was all hands,” Pilling said. Between that and her own conversation with him, Pilling was so disturbed that she left the party without saying goodbye to anyone.

When the Australian Shayna Love was living in New York in 1991, she says models were encouraged to attend dinners that became occasions for “men to pick up girls”. “You’d go to these things and look pretty, give the men attention,” Love said. She was 16 at the time and part of the Elite model agency’s “New Faces” campaign. “We might as well have been called ‘fresh meat’.” Love recalled a dinner with Trump. “This time it was a private area, a big table and lots of girls – I’d say around 10 to 15 of us, all between the ages of 14 and 18,” she said. “It was just us models, Trump and [Elite founder] John [Casablancas]. We were all underage, but we were offered drinks.” Love said she went home early, but other girls stayed.

Trump was often seen with Casablancas. He hosted events for Elite’s modelling contests at his New York properties and provided lodging for the contestants. Eli Nessa had just turned 17 and was representing Norway during one such Elite competition hosted by Trump’s hotel in the early 90s. In addition to the events for the competition, the women were expected to attend several nights of parties. “There were all these older men,” she said. “It was so seedy.” Nessa was accompanied by her agent, but other women appeared to be alone. “I remember this Italian girl, extremely naive, who couldn’t speak any English. She was easy prey. They were all around her,” Nessa said. “We were a bunch of kids, just put there with all these older men.”

Heather Braden was also an Elite model and, in the late 90s, alleges that she was instructed to go to a party in a mansion on one of the islands off Miami Beach. Trump was going to be there, she was told. Braden went with a couple of friends who were also models. When they arrived, the first thing they saw was a table manned by two security guards. The models were handed papers. “I presume they were NDAs for us to sign,” Braden recalled. They ignored the papers and walked into a big room where there were about 50 models. In her mid-20s, Braden was one of the oldest women there. Many were from eastern Europe and didn’t speak English, so Braden and her friends kept to themselves.

They found the party odd. There was no DJ, no food, and no bartender – though there were drinks, Braden remembers. “It was very awkward from the beginning,” she said years later. “Fifty females in this room, no real hosts. Very unusual. And then down this large staircase, in front of all of us, there was Donald Trump and behind him there were three actors, 40s, maybe 50s. I don’t want to name them because they’re all still around.” The actors were famous. “They came down the stairs and spread out like sharks among the girls,” who had broken up into little clusters throughout the room. “Obviously, some of these younger girls were starstruck.”

John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991.
John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991. Photograph: Ron Galella/Getty Images
Braden said she had been in the industry long enough to understand what was happening. “Clearly, we were there for one reason. We were just pieces of meat.” At a typical fashion industry party, there would be a mix of people, men of different ages, male models, men in the business. Not here. Braden believed that this party had been set up specifically for Trump and the three actors. “This was not eye candy,” she said. “Sometimes you’re brought to these big parties like that, but this was different.”

From a couch in the farthest corner of the room, Braden and her friends watched as each man made his way through the knots of models. They started with the standard opening lines, asking the women their names and where they were from. “Five minutes later – this is what they did to me: ‘You want to come upstairs?’ It was anything from, ‘You want to see the rest of the house?’ to ‘Do you want to see the bedroom? The view?’ Or ‘Do you want to partake in party favours?’ That was the terminology,” Braden said. “Sometimes there’d be a couple of girls that would go up together.” Braden said Trump approached her at the party, and chuckled when she turned him down.

In addition to Casablancas, whose marriage ended after he had an affair with a 16-year-old Stephanie Seymour and who later married another one of his models when she was 17, Trump’s social circle in the early 90s included Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender who allegedly ran a sex ring of underage girls. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor and in July 2019 was charged with two federal counts of sex trafficking before being found dead in his prison cell in an apparent suicide in August. Trump once said of Epstein: “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Eventually Trump found an easier way to surround himself with models: he started his own agency. Trump Model Management launched in 1999, the same year Trump divorced Marla Maples. When Leonardo DiCaprio – another man with a taste for women who walk the runway – heard about Trump’s new venture, he approvingly dubbed it “one-stop date shopping”.

'Clearly, we were there for one reason … We were just pieces of meat'
Now Trump had the models coming to him, and it is alleged that he introduced them to his sons. Ksenia Maximova said she worked for Trump Model Management in 2003 and 2004, and again a few years later. In 2004, when the Russian-British model was 18, her agent summoned her to a meeting in Trump Tower. “He said: ‘Oh, we’re just going to meet the owner of the agency,’” she said, speaking publicly for the first time about the encounter. “And then he told me to get all dressed up, properly, because I was quite tomboyish, so he did tell me to put a nice dress on and some high heels and stuff.”

Maximova complied, and she and her agent took the elevator to Trump’s offices. The developer was at his desk with Donald Jr, then 26, standing behind him, although they weren’t introduced so Maximova didn’t know this was Trump’s son. She settled on a chair and Trump and her agent began talking. “I was just kind of sitting there,” she said. Trump asked her a few questions but for the most part didn’t address her. Donald Jr was generally silent, too. “It was all really awkward because it was like: ‘Let the grownups do the talking,’ kind of thing,” she said. “It was just like I didn’t matter and he didn’t matter. I just thought he was some aide or something.”

Maximova was made to feel so inconsequential that she began wondering why she had been brought there in the first place. “I didn’t really get introduced much. It was more like just to actually show me, visually. It wasn’t like anyone was interested in my personality or anything like that, so I was like: ‘What’s the point in this?’” She asked her agent as much when they were back in the elevator on their way down to the street. “We’ve heard that [Trump’s son] is maybe looking for a girlfriend now,” Maximova claims her agent told her. “That’s when I got really angry and told him off and asked him to never, ever, please, do this kind of thing again, especially without my consent.”

But even before he put the Trump brand on young models, he had found another business that ensured he would have a steady supply of beautiful young women in his life. In 1996, he purchased the Miss Universe Organisation, which also operates the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants. “It’s a very, very great entertainment format,” he said at the time. “It gets very high ratings, it’s doing very well and we’ll make it even better.” Trump’s improvement plan? “I made sure the women were really beautiful because they were getting a little bit not as beautiful. They had a person who was extremely proud that a number of women had become doctors. And I wasn’t interested,” he said on the Howard Stern radio show. “I made the bikinis smaller and the heels higher,” he told the late-night TV host David Letterman in 2010.

Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012.
Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012. Photograph: AP
From the very beginning, Trump exercised what he saw as the owner’s prerogative. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” Trump told Stern in 2005. “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

At times, Trump’s gaze was more targeted. Samantha Holvey told CNN that when she was 20 and competing in the 2006 Miss USA pageant, Trump made pointed visual inspections of all the contestants. “He would step in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people,” she said. “You know when a gross guy at the bar is checking you out? It’s that feeling.” Being ogled by Trump made Holvey feel “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life”. She and her fellow contestants were also invited to private parties filled with “old, rich, drunk guys ogling all over us”, Holvey said.

These women are just a sample of those who have come forward with accusations against Trump; new allegations continue to emerge. And while Trump is the most visible of the influential men accused of predatory behaviour, he is far from an outlier, as even a cursory glance at recent headlines illustrates. Jeffrey Epstein. Harvey Weinstein. R Kelly. Hundreds of men were brought down in the wake of #MeToo as women began to share their stories.

Still, these reckonings, while important, are not the ultimate solution, because the individual men are not themselves the core of the problem; that runs much deeper. These abuses took place over the course of decades and were far from secret. All too often, institutions sacrificed accusers to protect themselves and the coteries that ran them. If lasting and significant change is to take place, it will require a significant overhaul of the systems and societal attitudes that allowed that to happen.

 Edited and extracted from All The President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator by Barry Levine & Monique El-Faizy, published in the UK on 23 October by Trapeze (£20) – to order a copy go to guardianbookshop,com – and in the US on 22 October by Hachette ($29). It is published in Australia on 23 October by Hachette ($32.99). Also available as an audiobook. Lucy Osborne, whose reporting contributed to the book, continues to investigate Trump and women. Her email is lucy.osborne@theguardian.com

                               


You do realize that EVERY accusation against Trump has been debunked, right? Btw, no one reads your long ass posts especially when you post up a CNN video🙄
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 04, 2021, 10:27:50 AM
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
         
     HAPPY JULY 4 to all of you,  friends and haters alike have a good one, signing off for the day.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 04, 2021, 11:12:07 AM
Happy 4th and have a great day Funk.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 04, 2021, 08:41:09 PM
Dementia Joe says:

"Happy 4th of Junteen, where little girls sit on his lap, and out goes his peen, he sniffs their hair while twisting his knob, he runs that outfit over there, that guy named "Bob".

He strokes and pokes til' his wrist goes numb, ole Perv Joe tries to make young Dinah-Mo Hum. He raped his daughter in the shower, like Prime enjoying an hour on the Tower of Power.
Ole Joe and Hunter, kid raping felons, hero's to the libturdz, kids make their dummies a swellin'.
Brain-dead libs,  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 04, 2021, 10:57:53 PM
You do realize that EVERY accusation against Trump has been debunked, right? Btw, no one reads your long ass posts especially when you post up a CNN video🙄


it seems you are admitting you didn't read all the accusations and just posted that they had all been debunked. It's not that it's uncommon, it's just that rarely does anyone admit they don't read the accusations before dismissing them like you did
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 05, 2021, 02:46:03 AM


How is Commander-in- Chief doin' in Afghanistan  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 10:32:58 AM

it seems you are admitting you didn't read all the accusations and just posted that they had all been debunked. It's not that it's uncommon, it's just that rarely does anyone admit they don't read the accusations before dismissing them like you did
;D ;D ;D  good point everything that requires reading or  analysis is put off as fake news.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 10:36:05 AM
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
             
   
   
     the party of law and order INDEED.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 10:39:09 AM
Happy 4th and have a great day Funk.
           
    hope you had a good one too.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 10:44:34 AM
Rioters accused of erasing content from social media, phones
BY JACQUES BILLEAUD ASSOCIATED PRESS
JULY 04, 2021 09:26 PM
FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo people record as Capitol police officers push back violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump U.S. Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File)
FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo people record as Capitol police officers push back violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump U.S. Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File) JOSE LUIS MAGANA AP

PHOENIX
They flaunted their participation in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol on social media and then, apparently realizing they were in legal trouble, rushed to delete evidence of it, authorities say. Now their attempts to cover up their role in the deadly siege are likely to come back to haunt them in court.

An Associated Press review of court records has found that at least 49 defendants are accused of trying to erase incriminating photos, videos and texts from phones or social media accounts documenting their conduct as a pro-Donald Trump mob stormed Congress and briefly interrupted the certification of Democrat Joe Biden’s election victory.

Experts say the efforts to scrub the social media accounts reveal a desperate willingness to manipulate evidence once these people realized they were in hot water. And, they say, it can serve as powerful proof of people’s consciousness of guilt and can make it harder to negotiate plea deals and seek leniency at sentencing.

“It makes them look tricky, makes them look sneaky,” said Gabriel J. Chin, who teaches criminal law at the University of California, Davis.

One such defendant is James Breheny, a member of the Oath Keepers extremist group, who bragged in texts to others about being inside the Capitol during the insurrection, authorities say. An associate instructed Breheny, in an encrypted message two days after the riot, to “delete all pictures, messages and get a new phone,” according to court documents.

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That same day, the FBI said, Breheny shut down his Facebook account, where he had photos that he taken during the riot and complained the government had grown tyrannical. “The People’s Duty is to replace that Government with one they agree with,” Breheny wrote on Facebook on Jan. 6 in an exchange about the riot. “I’m all ears. What’s our options???”

Breheney’s lawyer, Harley Breite, said his client never obstructed the riot investigation or destroyed evidence, and that Breheny didn’t know when he shut down account that his content would be considered evidence.

Breite rejected the notion that Breheny might have been able to recognize, in the days immediately after Jan. 6 when the riot dominated news coverage, that the attack was a serious situation that could put Breheny's liberty at risk.

“You can’t delete evidence if you don’t know you are being charged with anything,” Breite said.

Other defendants who have not been accused of destroying evidence still engaged in exchanges with others about deleting content, according to court documents.

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The FBI said one woman who posted video and comments showing she was inside the Capitol during the attack later decided not to restore her new phone with her iCloud content — a move that authorities suspect was aimed at preventing them from uncovering the material.

In another case, authorities say screenshots from a North Carolina man’s deleted Facebook posts contradicted his claim during an interview with an FBI agent that he didn’t intend on disrupting the Electoral College certification.

Erasing digital content isn’t as easy as deleting content from phones, removing social media posts or shutting down accounts. Investigators have been able to retrieve the digital content by requesting it from social media companies, even after accounts are shut down.

Posts made on Facebook, Instagram and other social media platforms are recoverable for a certain period of time, and authorities routinely ask those companies to preserve the records until they get court orders to view the posts, said Adam Scott Wandt, a public policy professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who trains law enforcement on cyber-based investigations.

Authorities also have other avenues for investigating whether someone has tried to delete evidence.


Even when a person removes content from an account, authorities may still get access to it if it had been backed up on a cloud server. People who aren’t involved in a crime yet were sent incriminating videos or photos may end up forwarding them to investigators. Also, metadata embedded in digital content can show whether it has been modified or deleted.

“You can’t do it,” said Joel Hirschhorn, a criminal defense lawyer in Miami who is not involved in Capitol riot cases. “The metadata will do them in every time.”

Only a handful of the more than 500 people across the U.S. who have been arrested in the riot have actually been charged with tampering for deleting incriminating material from their phones or Facebook accounts.

They include several defendants in the sweeping case against members and associates of the Oath Keepers extremist group, who are accused of conspiring to block the certification of the vote. In one instance, a defendant instructed another to “make sure that all signal comms about the op has been deleted and burned,” authorities say.

But even if it does not result in more charges, deleting evidence will make it difficult for those defendants to get much benefit at sentencing for accepting responsibility for their actions, said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School.


Some lawyers might argue their clients removed the content to lessen the social impact that the attack had on their families and show they do not support what had occurred during the riot. But she said that argument has limits.

“The words ‘self-serving’ will come to mind,” Levenson said. “That’s what the prosecutors will argue — you removed it because all of a sudden, you have to face the consequences of your actions.”

Matthew Mark Wood, who acknowledged deleting content from his phone and Facebook account that showed presence in the Capitol during the riot, told an FBI agent that he did not intend on disrupting the Electoral College certification.

But investigators say screenshots of two of his deleted Facebook posts tell a different story.

In the posts, Wood reveled in rioters sending “those politicians running” and declared that he had stood up against a tyrannical government in the face of a stolen election, the FBI said in court records. “When diplomacy doesn’t work and your message has gone undelivered, it shouldn’t surprise you when we revolt,” Wood wrote. His lawyer did not return a call seeking comment.


Even though she is not accused of deleting content that showed she was inside the Capitol during the riot, one defendant told her father that she was not going to restore her new phone with her iCloud backup about three weeks after the riot, the FBI said.

“Stay off the clouds!" the father warned his daughter, according to authorities. "They are how they are screwing with us.”

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FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021 file photo, violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump storm the U.S. Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File) JOSE LUIS MAGANA AP     THEY DIDN'T DO NOTHING WRONG, NO.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 12:16:25 PM
Arizona GOP Hit With Lawsuit Exposing Phony Election ‘Audit’
By Caleb Newton -July 5, 2021
Republicans in the Arizona state Senate have now been sued by the state’s largest newspaper in connection to the sham, so-called “audit” that they have been overseeing in Maricopa County, Arizona, which includes Phoenix and where Joe Biden was victorious last November. The newspaper — The Arizona Republic — is seeking financial and communication records connected to the audit, which it says members of the public should be able to access under laws regarding public records. Besides Republican leaders, the lawsuit also targets Cyber Ninjas, the company that Arizona state Senate leaders tasked with conducting the audit despite its total lack of experience in election auditing.




Attorney David Bodney, who is representing the newspaper, commented as follows:

‘ARIZONA LAW ENTITLES THE PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW THIS AUDIT IS BEING CONDUCTED AND FUNDED. AND THE ARIZONA PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DOES NOT PERMIT THE SENATE TO PLAY ‘HIDE THE BALL’ BY DELEGATING CORE RESPONSIBILITIES TO A THIRD PARTY LIKE CYBER NINJAS AND CONCEALING RECORDS OF GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES AND PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN CYBER NINJAS’ FILES.’



The lawsuit itself adds the following:

‘THE ARIZONA SENATE’S AUDIT OF MARICOPA COUNTY BALLOTS IS A MATTER OF THE MOST URGENT PUBLIC CONCERN. NOTHING IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY THAN THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR ELECTIONS. DEFENDANTS THEMSELVES HAVE STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN VOTING AND ELECTIONS AS JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE AUDIT, AND HAVE PLEDGED TRANSPARENCY IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT. BUT THE PUBLIC CANNOT PROPERLY EVALUATE THE CONDUCT OF AND FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT WITHOUT PROMPT AND FULL ACCESS TO THE VERY PUBLIC RECORDS THAT DEFENDANTS ARE UNLAWFULLY WITHHOLDING.’




There have been serious, documented issues with the procedures used for the Maricopa audit, and more broadly, the debacle has also proceeded under clearly biased pretenses. Despite the lack of evidence, Cyber Ninjas founder Doug Logan even narrated a recent web documentary claiming that systematic election fraud was present in last year’s presidential race. Audit workers, meanwhile, were at one point looking for bamboo fibers among the election materials on the basis of the bonkers conspiracy theory that fraudulent ballots may have been shipped in from Asia. If the so-called auditors are sufficiently disconnected from reality to allow for a search for bamboo fibers in the first place, then who’s to say that they wouldn’t be inclined to come up with sham “evidence” for other nonsense? Their final report, whenever it emerges, is not going to be remotely credible. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 05, 2021, 12:31:29 PM
Arizona GOP Hit With Lawsuit Exposing Phony Election ‘Audit’
By Caleb Newton -July 5, 2021
Republicans in the Arizona state Senate have now been sued by the state’s largest newspaper in connection to the sham, so-called “audit” that they have been overseeing in Maricopa County, Arizona, which includes Phoenix and where Joe Biden was victorious last November. The newspaper — The Arizona Republic — is seeking financial and communication records connected to the audit, which it says members of the public should be able to access under laws regarding public records. Besides Republican leaders, the lawsuit also targets Cyber Ninjas, the company that Arizona state Senate leaders tasked with conducting the audit despite its total lack of experience in election auditing.




Attorney David Bodney, who is representing the newspaper, commented as follows:

‘ARIZONA LAW ENTITLES THE PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW THIS AUDIT IS BEING CONDUCTED AND FUNDED. AND THE ARIZONA PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DOES NOT PERMIT THE SENATE TO PLAY ‘HIDE THE BALL’ BY DELEGATING CORE RESPONSIBILITIES TO A THIRD PARTY LIKE CYBER NINJAS AND CONCEALING RECORDS OF GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES AND PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN CYBER NINJAS’ FILES.’



The lawsuit itself adds the following:

‘THE ARIZONA SENATE’S AUDIT OF MARICOPA COUNTY BALLOTS IS A MATTER OF THE MOST URGENT PUBLIC CONCERN. NOTHING IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY THAN THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR ELECTIONS. DEFENDANTS THEMSELVES HAVE STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN VOTING AND ELECTIONS AS JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE AUDIT, AND HAVE PLEDGED TRANSPARENCY IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT. BUT THE PUBLIC CANNOT PROPERLY EVALUATE THE CONDUCT OF AND FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT WITHOUT PROMPT AND FULL ACCESS TO THE VERY PUBLIC RECORDS THAT DEFENDANTS ARE UNLAWFULLY WITHHOLDING.’




There have been serious, documented issues with the procedures used for the Maricopa audit, and more broadly, the debacle has also proceeded under clearly biased pretenses. Despite the lack of evidence, Cyber Ninjas founder Doug Logan even narrated a recent web documentary claiming that systematic election fraud was present in last year’s presidential race. Audit workers, meanwhile, were at one point looking for bamboo fibers among the election materials on the basis of the bonkers conspiracy theory that fraudulent ballots may have been shipped in from Asia. If the so-called auditors are sufficiently disconnected from reality to allow for a search for bamboo fibers in the first place, then who’s to say that they wouldn’t be inclined to come up with sham “evidence” for other nonsense? Their final report, whenever it emerges, is not going to be remotely credible. ;D ;D ;D ;D

LOL...another left hit piece. They're scared to death lmao
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
     CHINA
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 12:35:39 PM
     how many are fans of this one ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 12:37:05 PM
    any fans of this one?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 12:53:44 PM
    can anyone spot the peplum star in this one ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 05, 2021, 12:58:39 PM
    any fans of this one?

This isn't racist..you nor any other leftist idiot can even define "racist" as the left makes it out to be. Pirro is 1000% dead on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2021, 01:09:28 PM
3 day long weekend - was the dump cleaned up hopefully ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2021, 01:19:29 PM
This isn't racist..you nor any other leftist idiot can even define "racist" as the left makes it out to be. Pirro is 1000% dead on.
       
                                                                     but wasn't covid just a hoax to bring down trump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 05, 2021, 01:58:34 PM
    any fans of this one?

Let it go, Funk.  Or just continue to go on and on, ad nauseam.  In some ways you remind me of my youngest living brother in that every once in a while he will call me and scream some liberal accusations at me for a couple of minutes or so and then he shuts up...And then apologizes.  He once did so for about five minutes worth of dross that strangely enough included crap about how he and our family thought I was full of toxic masculinity and then suddenly stopped.  He then recalled how I squished some asshole that had taken a dislike to him and  roughed him up nearly 50 years ago and how glad he was that I was there and I was very toxic.

I glance at some of your stuff but mostly stick to the historical ones and avoid the hysterical stuff such as when my little brother calls to whine at me about Trump.  I hate whining.  I don't mind complaining about something worthy of complaints but whining?  FTN.

Do as you wish.  I am weary of cucks here and in the real world.  I do not suffer them well and outside this place if they are dumb enough to scream or yell at me for imagined slights done them by "whitey" (and many are caucasionals themselves), I just look at them and either tell them to do a Straw Man (i.e., go FUCK their dead grandmother) or give them a pass and walk away.  Oddly enough they seem to attack me more when I am having to use my crutches. 

Talk about being "fair", LOL!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 05, 2021, 02:13:09 PM
Funk
You said you're not a repub or dem but you never post anything critical of the dems and always things critical of repubs.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 05, 2021, 02:35:35 PM


Hey fucked up funk, why do you need so many surgeries ................ ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 05, 2021, 08:40:03 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 05, 2021, 08:44:29 PM
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Bob, Italians prefer Vino Rosso over Vino Bianco !.  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 05, 2021, 09:49:19 PM
       
                                                                     but wasn't covid just a hoax to bring down trump.

He never called the virus a hoax. And yes, the shut down was absolutely the plan.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 05:33:46 AM
Let it go, Funk.  Or just continue to go on and on, ad nauseam.  In some ways you remind me of my youngest living brother in that every once in a while he will call me and scream some liberal accusations at me for a couple of minutes or so and then he shuts up...And then apologizes.  He once did so for about five minutes worth of dross that strangely enough included crap about how he and our family thought I was full of toxic masculinity and then suddenly stopped.  He then recalled how I squished some asshole that had taken a dislike to him and  roughed him up nearly 50 years ago and how glad he was that I was there and I was very toxic.

I glance at some of your stuff but mostly stick to the historical ones and avoid the hysterical stuff such as when my little brother calls to whine at me about Trump.  I hate whining.  I don't mind complaining about something worthy of complaints but whining?  FTN.

Do as you wish.  I am weary of cucks here and in the real world.  I do not suffer them well and outside this place if they are dumb enough to scream or yell at me for imagined slights done them by "whitey" (and many are caucasionals themselves), I just look at them and either tell them to do a Straw Man (i.e., go FUCK their dead grandmother) or give them a pass and walk away.  Oddly enough they seem to attack me more when I am having to use my crutches. 

Talk about being "fair", LOL!
  i agree with you that's why when this thread hits 100 pages, i'm going to knock this crap off.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 05:36:19 AM
Funk
You said you're not a repub or dem but you never post anything critical of the dems and always things critical of repubs.
   if you look way back, I was one of the worse critics of OBAMA. then he gave me free healthcare and a golden ticket to thousands of gyms and i shut my yap. :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 05:38:22 AM

Hey fucked up funk, why do you need so many surgeries ................ ;D
   a very active lifestyle in my youth racked up many injuries and broken bones. but I'm nearing 70 so why complain. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 05:41:55 AM
He never called the virus a hoax. And yes, the shut down was absolutely the plan.
                    the individual state governors were responsible for the shutdowns. while trump bragged that his covid briefings were the number one "SHOW" on television. always the showman.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 06, 2021, 06:43:40 AM
   if you look way back, I was one of the worse critics of OBAMA. then he gave me free healthcare and a golden ticket to thousands of gyms and i shut my yap. :D :D :D :D :D

That's in the past but what about now?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 06, 2021, 06:57:34 AM
..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 07:30:07 AM
That's in the past but what about now?
  joe biden is a figurehead just like trump was, I think he has a better team behind him though, and keeps a lower profile. not constantly bombarding people with his insane tweets when he wakes up at 2 in the morning with indigestion. trump would have been well served by distancing himself from some of the shady and deranged characters he kept close to him.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2021, 08:20:27 AM
                    the individual state governors were responsible for the shutdowns. while trump bragged that his covid briefings were the number one "SHOW" on television. always the showman.
They were the #1 "show". Trump was and is still far more popular than Bitem. His 2 am indigestion tweets got more views than all of Bitems appearances put together. :D

  joe biden is a figurehead just like trump was, I think he has a better team behind him though, and keeps a lower profile. not constantly bombarding people with his insane tweets when he wakes up at 2 in the morning with indigestion. trump would have been well served by distancing himself from some of the shady and deranged characters he kept close to him.
Are you saying Bitem isn't surrounded by crooks, scum and deranged characters? It's about how the media portrays the situation. The media has coddled every Bitem gaffe, stutter, dementia ridden moment and handled him with baby soft gloves vs the absolute bashing the media gave Trump over everything from the flavor of his ice cream to how tall his kid is.
No new wars vs Bitem in office 5 months before we're bombing other countries. ::)

If you were to turn off your tv and go outside, compare job markets, gas and food prices, housing prices, car prices, etc, etc....and honestly tell us  if Trump was all that bad.
I could go on, but what's the point? Trump tweeted something mean!!!  :'( :'( ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2021, 08:22:11 AM
Its Tuesday - for F sake - even the homeless are using Straws place as an open toilet.   Clean the FNG mess.   Liberal failures and squalor. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 06, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
             
   
   
     the party of law and order INDEED.

But Coachy says they are all political prisoners sitting in jail with no charges filed against them.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 06, 2021, 10:01:02 AM
  joe biden is a figurehead just like trump was, I think he has a better team behind him though, and keeps a lower profile. not constantly bombarding people with his insane tweets when he wakes up at 2 in the morning with indigestion. trump would have been well served by distancing himself from some of the shady and deranged characters he kept close to him.

So, will you now post something negative about Biden for even reporting?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 10:09:34 AM
They were the #1 "show". Trump was and is still far more popular than Bitem. His 2 am indigestion tweets got more views than all of Bitems appearances put together. :D
Are you saying Bitem isn't surrounded by crooks, scum and deranged characters? It's about how the media portrays the situation. The media has coddled every Bitem gaffe, stutter, dementia ridden moment and handled him with baby soft gloves vs the absolute bashing the media gave Trump over everything from the flavor of his ice cream to how tall his kid is.
No new wars vs Bitem in office 5 months before we're bombing other countries. ::)

If you were to turn off your tv and go outside, compare job markets, gas and food prices, housing prices, car prices, etc, etc....and honestly tell us  if Trump was all that bad.
I could go on, but what's the point? Trump tweeted something mean!!!  :'( :'( ::)
   why am I not surprised that for you it's all about tv ratings and number of tweets. all flash and no substance.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 10:10:24 AM
Remembering actor BILLY “FROGGY” LAUGHLIN (1932 – 1948), who was born on July 5th. He rose to fame at the age of eight when he appeared in his first Our Gang film, The New Pupil. His character was known for his strange, guttural voice, which was reminiscent of a frog's croak. Laughlin's last Our Gang short film was the last film of the series in 1944 called Dancing Romeo. Contrary to popular belief, Laughlin did the voice himself without dubbing. He died at a hospital on August 31, 1948 after a speeding truck hit him while he was delivering newspapers and riding a Cushman Motor Scooter near his home in La Puente, California. - Wiki
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 06, 2021, 10:27:47 AM
   a very active lifestyle in my youth racked up many injuries and broken bones. but I'm nearing 70 so why complain. :)

............ ;D ;D ;D do you have a nurse 24/7 ............can't stop  ;D

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2021, 10:53:35 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream-media-democratic-lawmakers-bash-america-at-every-turn-during-fourth-of-july-weekend
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2021, 12:47:39 PM
   why am I not surprised that for you it's all about tv ratings and number of tweets. all flash and no substance.
I know you're old and feeble and your decrepit mind isnt working so well these days, maybe get your nurse to read you my post and translate it into baby speak for you ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 01:27:47 PM
............ ;D ;D ;D do you have a nurse 24/7 ............can't stop  ;D
     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   you're a funny guy, glad to give you a laugh at my expense. don't forget though that karma's a bitch.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 01:30:29 PM
I know you're old and feeble and your decrepit mind isnt working so well these days, maybe get your nurse to read you my post and translate it into baby speak for you ???
    how old are you mister chaos? you talk real tough, how good are you at backing it up though,  inquiring minds want to know. :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2021, 01:32:53 PM
    how old are you mister chaos? you talk real tough, how good are you at backing it up though,  inquiring minds want to know. :) :) :) :) :)
Old enough to be your grandson. :D
What part of my post was intimidating to you? I didn't mean to scare the elderly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 01:41:50 PM
Old enough to be your grandson. :D
What part of my post was intimidating to you? I didn't mean to scare the elderly.
  not intimidated in the least , just curious why you think it's funny to run someone down because of a few health problems. does it make you feel tough and all superior, just trying to understand your motive for your constant attacks. I've never said a bad word about you on here. to tell you the truth I never knew you existed. at any rate have a good day and keep up the good fight.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2021, 01:44:00 PM
  not intimidated in the least , just curious why you think it's funny to run someone down because of a few health problems. does it make you feel tough and all superior, just trying to understand your motive for your constant attacks. I've never said a bad word about you on here. to tell you the truth I never knew you existed. at any rate have a good day and keep up the good fight.

Usually people smarten up by your age not to be a liberal . . .
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
  not intimidated in the least , just curious why you think it's funny to run someone down because of a few health problems. does it make you feel tough and all superior, just trying to understand your motive for your constant attacks. I've never said a bad word about you on here. to tell you the truth I never knew you existed. at any rate have a good day and keep up the good fight.
Typical liberal, always a victim. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 01:47:05 PM
Usually people smarten up by your age not to be a liberal . . .
    not really a liberal, bottle boy I'm an independent thinker who lives life according to the golden rule.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2021, 01:50:34 PM
    not really a liberal, bottle boy I'm an independent thinker who lives life according to the golden rule.

Really?   8 years later and you still bring that up?   ;D  ;D  ;D :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 06, 2021, 02:04:16 PM
Really?   8 years later and you still bring that up?   ;D  ;D  ;D :D  :D  :D
   
    had to look it up, I always thought you were at a yankee game. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2021, 02:27:38 PM
   
    had to look it up, I always thought you were at a yankee game. :)

Yankees suck this year.    >:( :(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2021, 02:39:10 PM
    not really a liberal, bottle boy I'm an independent thinker who lives life according to the golden rule.
Why are you trying to hurt Souls feelings? Does it make you feel like a man to belittle someone else for not being able to open a bottle of water?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2021, 03:50:08 PM
Yankees suck this year.    >:( :(

No shit.  What the fuck is up with that?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2021, 04:06:26 PM
No shit.  What the fuck is up with that?

Judge not looking so stellar this year. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2021, 04:13:11 PM
Judge not looking so stellar this year.

Maybe they'll pull it together in the 2nd half.  I hate that they aren't doing the expanded post season this year.  I want an 8 team playoffs like in all the other major sports.  Fuck the weather.  Make the playoffs a destination like the Superbowl.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 06, 2021, 04:37:51 PM
I know you're old and feeble and your decrepit mind isnt working so well these days, maybe get your nurse to read you my post and translate it into baby speak for you ???

Ummm...I think you have mistaken funk for me! ;D  Other than the baby talk thing, that is... ;D

While it's said that if you are not a liberal when you're young you don't have a heart and if you're not a Conservative when you're old you don't have a brain, I have ALWAYS been Conservative.

And that is because even with my somewhat limited, okay..really limited, mental abilities I know that liberalism is nothing more than making morons feeeeeeeeeeel better about getting assfucked for the lazy and worthless of this world.  Fuck That Noise.

It is not that Conservatives don't feel, we just don't allow our emotions to run wild and in doing so allow Democrats and  RINOs to run away with our hard earned money and give it to a bunch of two-legged rabbits that live only to fuck one another physically and fuck over those that work for a living.   Again.  FTN.

And now, while I hopefully have your attention...Fuck that Emo Bitch Billie Eyelash.  What a disgusting "singer".  FTN.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 06, 2021, 08:07:31 PM
Usually people smarten up by your age not to be a liberal . . .


Behind every old liberal man is a woman who is wearing the pants.

No man would vote for his own marginalization without a reason.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 06, 2021, 08:38:37 PM
     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   you're a funny guy, glad to give you a laugh at my expense. don't forget though that karma's a bitch.



Just don't get too sexual with yours nurse  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
But Coachy says they are all political prisoners sitting in jail with no charges filed against them.

Yep...most are. And in solitary confinement 23hrs a day. This should make you happy, Benito since it was a fake “Insurrection”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 07, 2021, 07:28:48 AM
       
   
                           on the first page of gossip there are 19 Biden related topics. BDS is growing by the day. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 07, 2021, 07:29:53 AM
Yep...most are. And in solitary confinement 23hrs a day. This should make you happy, Benito since it was a fake “Insurrection”

Which ones don't have charges against them?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 07, 2021, 07:30:27 AM
Im having fun with the Biden stuff, Im so mind-blown that someone can truly be that retarded, most epic entertainment in years...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2021, 07:35:49 AM
This is what Straw yard looks like now.   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 07, 2021, 07:36:50 AM
I'll take Biden in a fight w/ Trump though. He would jab the Donald silly.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Joe_Biden_at_the_White_House_gym_-_2016-04-26.jpg/1024px-Joe_Biden_at_the_White_House_gym_-_2016-04-26.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 07, 2021, 08:47:48 AM
I hope Biden is better with the weights than Obama was.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 07, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
Why are you trying to hurt Souls feelings? Does it make you feel like a man to belittle someone else for not being able to open a bottle of water?
     
   now who's the victim, I'm only helping soul crusher celebrate his 15 seconds of fame nothing more nothing less, tough guy. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 07, 2021, 10:00:44 AM
Im having fun with the Biden stuff, Im so mind-blown that someone can truly be that retarded, most epic entertainment in years...
           
   while you're laughing, joe Biden is turning this country around for the better, probably the best president ever in my lifetime. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 07, 2021, 10:01:28 AM
I'll take Biden in a fight w/ Trump though. He would jab the Donald silly.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Joe_Biden_at_the_White_House_gym_-_2016-04-26.jpg/1024px-Joe_Biden_at_the_White_House_gym_-_2016-04-26.jpg)

I'll bet now that he is POTUS Dr. Jill is sucking his cock with the gusto of a sorority girl.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 07, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
           
   while you're laughing, joe Biden is turning this country around for the better, probably the best president ever in my lifetime. ;D

 ;) :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 07, 2021, 01:02:07 PM
This is what Straw yard looks like now.   ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1312599;image)

Wow, he is making progress!  Looks much better.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 07, 2021, 01:39:43 PM
           
   while you're laughing, joe Biden is turning this country around for the better, probably the best president ever in my lifetime. ;D


very soon 1000's of Afghan refugees will visit you
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 07, 2021, 04:43:11 PM
All I know is Straw is a pretty popular dude... 2400+ replies...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2021, 04:59:49 PM
Wow, he is making progress!  Looks much better.
;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2021, 05:06:20 PM
This is what Straw yard looks like now.   ;D

LMFAO 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 07, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
All I know is Straw is a pretty popular dude... 2400+ replies...

I couldn't get a 100 page thread about me if I paid you motherfuckers.  Straw is a legit getbigger.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2021, 06:34:02 PM
I couldn't get a 100 page thread about me if I paid you motherfuckers.  Straw is a legit getbigger.

But not in a good way. He’s a full blown commie
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 06:52:13 AM
Fleetwood man charged in Jan. 6 Capitol riot; he used stun gun on police, attacked news photographer, complaint states
By ANDREW SCOTT
THE MORNING CALL |
JUL 07, 2021 AT 7:01 PM


The FBI has charged a Berks County man caught on video wearing a gray “Kutztown” beanie with attacking a news photographer and assaulting police with a stun gun during the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot, according to a U.S. District Court criminal complaint.

Alan Byerly, 54, of Fleetwood was identified as one of the protesters filmed attacking Metro and U.S. Capitol police, according to the June 25 complaint. Byerly wielded a stun gun as he charged at police and continued attacking them after he was disarmed, the document says.

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He is charged with assaulting a federal officer, obstructing law enforcement, entering a restricted building, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds and assault.

A federal magistrate in Allentown ordered Byerly to be jailed pending a detention hearing Monday, according to The Associated Press. Court records don’t list a defense attorney for him.

More than 500 people have been charged with federal crimes in the riots at the Capitol on the day Congress gathered to certify Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 presidential election.

In this Jan. 6 image from video, Alan Byerly, right, is seen allegedly attacking an Associated Press photographer during a riot at the U.S. Capitol in Washington. Byerly was arrested on charges that he assaulted the photographer and police officers. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)
In this Jan. 6 image from video, Alan Byerly, right, is seen allegedly attacking an Associated Press photographer during a riot at the U.S. Capitol in Washington. Byerly was arrested on charges that he assaulted the photographer and police officers. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez) (Julio Cortez/AP)
According to the complaint:

At 2:10 p.m. on the Capitol Grounds’ Lower West Terrace beside the media tower, police were using bike racks as a barrier against protesters. Byerly is visible in police body camera photos wearing a gray beanie with the word “Kutztown” and a dark-colored facial covering. Byerly lives 5 miles from Kutztown.

Byerly, “seemingly unprovoked,” activated the stun gun, emitting a “clearly audible” electric charge. He then raised his right hand, holding the stun gun, and charged at police.

Police disarmed Byerly, but he continued to hit and push officers and tried taking one officer’s baton.


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One officer’s body camera footage shows the officer armed with the baton trying to defend himself and restrain Byerly when the officer lost control and fell. Byerly, helped by another rioter, broke free and fled, after which officers recovered the stun gun from the ground.

In addition, according to the complaint, news media footage taken shortly before the 2:10 p.m. assault on police shows Byerly and other protesters pushing, shoving and dragging a man wearing an Associated Press lanyard and carrying a camera near the Lower West Terrace.

On Feb. 3, the FBI posted photos of Byerly on its website and social media. On April 5, someone contacted the FBI and identified the man in the photos as Byerly, the court document says. The tipster said they’ve known Byerly for years and that Byerly told them he was waiting to be arrested because his photo has been publicized, the complaint states.

Cellphone records showed Byerly’s phone was in Washington on Jan. 6, the FBI said.     JUST ANOTHER PEACEFUL VISITOR TO THE CAPITOL JANUARY SIXTH.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 08, 2021, 07:00:50 AM
These singled-out retards still dont compare in any way, shape or form to the mass riots allowed by the libturdz.
BLM, Portland, ANTIFA, child murders, Cop murders, all swept aside and called 'peaceful'.

Yes these people are kuntz, but nothing in comparison in any way to the country-wide peaceful, hero Rapist-Floyd deadly riots...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 08, 2021, 07:09:22 AM
These singled-out retards still dont compare in any way, shape or form to the mass riots allowed by the libturdz.
BLM, Portland, ANTIFA, child murders, Cop murders, all swept aside and called 'peaceful'.

Yes these people are kuntz, but nothing in comparison in any way to the country-wide peaceful, hero Rapist-Floyd deadly riots...

I agree. No comparison. The January 6th pussies are much, much worse.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 07:42:19 AM
These singled-out retards still dont compare in any way, shape or form to the mass riots allowed by the libturdz.
BLM, Portland, ANTIFA, child murders, Cop murders, all swept aside and called 'peaceful'.

Yes these people are kuntz, but nothing in comparison in any way to the country-wide peaceful, hero Rapist-Floyd deadly riots...
   allowed by not committed by big difference. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
New study indicates conspiracy theory believers have less developed critical thinking abilities
by Eric W. Dolan July 3, 2021in Cognitive Science, Conspiracy Theories

New research published in Applied Cognitive Psychology provides evidence that critical thinking skills are negatively related to belief in conspiracy theories. In other words, the study suggests that people with greater critical thinking skills are less likely to believe that terrorist attacks are being covertly directed by a country’s own government or that mind-control technology is secretly being used to control the population.

“Regularly, different private and public actors provide homemade tools such as ‘critical thinking skills training programs’ that are supposed to be an effective way of reducing the spread of conspiracy theories,” said study author Anthony Lantian, an associate professor of social psychology at Paris Nanterre University.

“The issue is that essential steps have been skipped. Not only have these tools mostly not been scientifically tested, but to our knowledge, the idea that people who believe more in conspiracy theories have less developed critical thinking ability had never been properly tested. This opportunity came about because, due to circumstances, one of my co-authors took the time to translate a critical thinking ability test in French.”


 
In two studies, 338 undergraduate students completed a French version of the Ennis-Weir Critical Thinking Essay Test, which assessed their ability to understand an argument and formulate a written response to it. They also completed a questionnaire that assessed their general tendency to believe in conspiracy theories. In addition, the participants were asked if they thought there was a relationship between belief in conspiracy theories and critical thinking ability.

The researchers found that those who scored lower on the test were more likely to agree with statements such as “Certain significant events have been the result of the activity of a small group who secretly manipulate world events” and “The power held by heads of state is second to that of small unknown groups who really control world politics.”

“Two things can be learned from our two studies. First, the more people believe in conspiracy theories, the worse they perform on a critical thinking ability test. This test is characterized by an open-ended format highlighting several areas of critical thinking ability in the context of argumentation,” Lantian told PsyPost.

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“Second, if we look at the subjective feeling of being a critical thinker (rather than the critical thinking ability evaluated more objectively by the test mentioned earlier) we did not find any evidence for a higher (or lower) subjective critical thinking ability among those who subscribe more to conspiracy theories. This is not in line with the cliché of the conspiracy theorists who see themselves as critical thinkers.”

But the study — like all research — includes some caveats.

“Like any other studies, there are limitations. First, the methodological design of our studies prevents us from concluding that a lack of critical thinking ability plays a causal role in the increase of belief in conspiracy theories. We can only state that there is a negative association between these two variables,” Lantian explained.

“Another limitation is the difficulty of generalizing these results to other contexts. Whether this result can be extrapolated beyond French-speaking psychology students would require further study.”

The study, “Maybe a Free Thinker but not a Critical One: High Conspiracy Belief is Associated With low Critical Thinking Ability“, was authored by Anthony Lantian, Virginie Bagneux, Sylvain Delouvée, and Nicolas Gauvrit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 08, 2021, 10:06:08 AM
Applied cognitive psychology. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 08, 2021, 10:11:51 AM
Yeah like the Russian Collusion CT that was debunked but believed by most liberal communists trannies?

New study indicates conspiracy theory believers have less developed critical thinking abilities
by Eric W. Dolan July 3, 2021in Cognitive Science, Conspiracy Theories

New research published in Applied Cognitive Psychology provides evidence that critical thinking skills are negatively related to belief in conspiracy theories. In other words, the study suggests that people with greater critical thinking skills are less likely to believe that terrorist attacks are being covertly directed by a country’s own government or that mind-control technology is secretly being used to control the population.

“Regularly, different private and public actors provide homemade tools such as ‘critical thinking skills training programs’ that are supposed to be an effective way of reducing the spread of conspiracy theories,” said study author Anthony Lantian, an associate professor of social psychology at Paris Nanterre University.

“The issue is that essential steps have been skipped. Not only have these tools mostly not been scientifically tested, but to our knowledge, the idea that people who believe more in conspiracy theories have less developed critical thinking ability had never been properly tested. This opportunity came about because, due to circumstances, one of my co-authors took the time to translate a critical thinking ability test in French.”


 
In two studies, 338 undergraduate students completed a French version of the Ennis-Weir Critical Thinking Essay Test, which assessed their ability to understand an argument and formulate a written response to it. They also completed a questionnaire that assessed their general tendency to believe in conspiracy theories. In addition, the participants were asked if they thought there was a relationship between belief in conspiracy theories and critical thinking ability.

The researchers found that those who scored lower on the test were more likely to agree with statements such as “Certain significant events have been the result of the activity of a small group who secretly manipulate world events” and “The power held by heads of state is second to that of small unknown groups who really control world politics.”

“Two things can be learned from our two studies. First, the more people believe in conspiracy theories, the worse they perform on a critical thinking ability test. This test is characterized by an open-ended format highlighting several areas of critical thinking ability in the context of argumentation,” Lantian told PsyPost.

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“Second, if we look at the subjective feeling of being a critical thinker (rather than the critical thinking ability evaluated more objectively by the test mentioned earlier) we did not find any evidence for a higher (or lower) subjective critical thinking ability among those who subscribe more to conspiracy theories. This is not in line with the cliché of the conspiracy theorists who see themselves as critical thinkers.”

But the study — like all research — includes some caveats.

“Like any other studies, there are limitations. First, the methodological design of our studies prevents us from concluding that a lack of critical thinking ability plays a causal role in the increase of belief in conspiracy theories. We can only state that there is a negative association between these two variables,” Lantian explained.

“Another limitation is the difficulty of generalizing these results to other contexts. Whether this result can be extrapolated beyond French-speaking psychology students would require further study.”

The study, “Maybe a Free Thinker but not a Critical One: High Conspiracy Belief is Associated With low Critical Thinking Ability“, was authored by Anthony Lantian, Virginie Bagneux, Sylvain Delouvée, and Nicolas Gauvrit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 10:15:11 AM
Yeah like the Russian Collusion CT that was debunked but believed by most liberal communists trannies?

According to Senate Republicans, THE TRAITOR and his campaign colluded with Russia

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/08/24/senate-panel-trump-colluded-with-russia-in-2016-election/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 10:43:15 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 08, 2021, 10:44:27 AM
According to Senate Republicans, THE TRAITOR and his campaign colluded with Russia

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/08/24/senate-panel-trump-colluded-with-russia-in-2016-election/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder

That damn Mueller really dropped the ball I guess. . . . . .   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 10:50:35 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 10:58:06 AM
That damn Mueller really dropped the ball I guess. . . . . .   ;D ;)

only if you listen to Bill Barr's interpretation

https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 08, 2021, 12:50:32 PM
Which ones don't have charges against them?

Still waiting on Coachy to post the list of names of the Jan 6'ers that are in jail with no charges against them.

He hasn't yet.  And he won't.  Because he just flat out lied with that made up bullshit.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
united states love it or leave it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 08, 2021, 02:02:35 PM
united states love it or leave it.

Thats sweet. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on July 08, 2021, 02:34:24 PM
united states love it or leave it.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671940.0;attach=1312999;image)

Christ that's a thing of beauty... honestly...

 :P 8)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 09, 2021, 04:53:17 AM
Christ that's a thing of beauty... honestly...

 :P 8)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 09, 2021, 12:43:42 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 09, 2021, 03:13:23 PM
According to Senate Republicans, THE TRAITOR BIDEN  and his campaign colluded with TALIBAN



fixed
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on July 10, 2021, 05:25:47 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

3,1,2,4  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 05:54:35 AM
3,1,2,4  ;D
   actually number 4 is the most valuable among the bunch with iron collectors. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 06:27:47 AM
     
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2021, 07:03:00 AM
Will we break 100 this weekend ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 10, 2021, 08:38:33 AM
Will we break 100 this weekend ?
Depends if funkysmell51 gets his internet cut off or not.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Grape Ape on July 10, 2021, 08:54:30 AM
Depends if funkysmell51 gets his internet cut off or not.

Are you implying funkposts51videosAday is spamming this thread?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2021, 09:13:44 AM
Are you implying funkposts51videosAday is spamming this thread?

Funks posts are the best part of this thread
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2021, 09:43:04 AM
Funks posts are the best part of this thread

We will pull you over the line to 100.   Don’t worry.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on July 10, 2021, 09:56:16 AM
   actually number 4 is the most valuable among the bunch with iron collectors. :D

Fair enough - I have never been accused of having good taste LOL.  But the reason I chose the Ferrigno plates is 2-fold:

a - they are green like the Hulk and so talk to the child in me, and
b - have the only numbers on them (Kg) I understand (jk  ;D)

Stay loose my US Bro

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
Depends if funkysmell51 gets his internet cut off or not.
     
     funkysmell51 good one another new name from a trumpturd big surprise, at least it shows some imagination.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2021, 10:41:31 AM
We will pull you over the line to 100.   Don’t worry.

I couldn't give less of a shit
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 10:50:21 AM
I couldn't give less of a shit
   
        as you shouldn't no one on this board should ever be banned if they abide by the rules which you do. starting a thread to have someone banned for their political views is both childish and idiotic. which is par for the course for the followers of trump who himself gets banned from facebook , twitter, Instagram, having a charity, running a university and the list goes on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 11:51:19 AM
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2021, 11:55:16 AM
   

This woman is a real piece of work.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: GymnJuice on July 10, 2021, 11:56:55 AM
This woman is a real piece of work.

She was probably just as crazy and psychotic before Trump, and will be the same after Trump too.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 12:01:40 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=673388.0       just one of the 17 joe biden threads on page one of the gossip section. again he beats trump in popularity. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2021, 12:04:26 PM
She was probably just as crazy and psychotic before Trump, and will be the same after Trump too.

I have no doubts about that. There does seem to be an uptick in crazy and violent people since Trump came on the scene though. It is hard to conceive how one man can inspire so many people to follow them regardless of where that person takes them. This has happened other times with other supposedly charismatic people such as, Jim Jones, David Koresh and Adolph Hitler to name a few.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 10, 2021, 12:19:37 PM
     
   

If I were old an decrepit like you, I would spend some time posting the youtube videos of liberals melting down for the last 6 years over the mention of Trumps name. But then really, all I need to do is quote one of yours or straw mans posts. :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 12:20:06 PM
https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=historybooks
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 12:26:28 PM
If I were old an decrepit like you, I would spend some time posting the youtube videos of liberals melting down for the last 6 years over the mention of Trumps name. But then really, all I need to do is quote one of yours or straw mans posts. :)
   
   
   
&t=118s   
                                                         old and decrepit , young and stupid, not that big a difference. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 12:40:55 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 10, 2021, 01:12:05 PM
   
   
   
&t=118s   
                                                         old and decrepit , young and stupid, not that big a difference. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Thanks for proving my point. :-*
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 10, 2021, 01:16:49 PM
All "Supporters" are crazy sheep.
Libtards, Pubtardz, etc.

Its how the country is run that is key.
Trump had us in a great position "pre-fake RONA" scam.

This guy cant wipe his own arse-hole, and the country is going to shite.
(Unless of course you are into Trannies, child-rape, not working, crime, etc).
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 01:26:29 PM
Thanks for proving my point. :-*
                 ;) hope this helps . ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2021, 01:30:17 PM
100 pages and same question remains - is the pigs sty and filthy slop mess cleaned up yet ?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 01:36:46 PM
1
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 10, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2021, 02:10:25 PM


Why are you white knighting for straw ?   He needs to clean up his mess and yard That looks like a junk yard. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 10, 2021, 05:05:11 PM



Taliban thanks you & Biden for all that military supply !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 10, 2021, 06:57:48 PM
Funks posts are the best part of this thread

Actually the poll is
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 06:00:11 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2021, 08:29:56 AM
100 pages and same question remains - is the pigs sty and filthy slop mess cleaned up yet ?
funk51 is too busy spreading manure to clean up his yard.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 09:14:01 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 09:17:58 AM

   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on July 11, 2021, 09:25:46 AM
100 pages baby...

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdtkp6g0samjql.cloudfront.net%2Fuploads%2Fphoto%2Ffile%2F14458963%2Ff099c61d-5ced-49f8-974a-45155bb3cbb8.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 10:28:03 AM
100 pages baby...

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdtkp6g0samjql.cloudfront.net%2Fuploads%2Fphoto%2Ffile%2F14458963%2Ff099c61d-5ced-49f8-974a-45155bb3cbb8.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
     
    ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2021, 11:35:02 AM
100 pages and still the answer everyone wants to know eludes us . . . .

1.   Does Straw even Lift

2.  Is the dump cleaned up ?

3.  Is Michelle Obama really “Big Mike” ?

4.  Will Basile stop being a Kvnt and finally debate Goodrum online ?

5.  Are there any nudes of AOC online ? 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 12:05:18 PM
&t=5s   
&t=37s   
     
     hip hip hooray. we finally hit the century mark. will it hit 200, that's the question. still less than a hundred votes,  Biden still  everyone's president though. will trump take over  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) in august, time will tell. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 12:08:16 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 12:11:33 PM
&t=27s   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 12:23:13 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 12:23:47 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 12:30:11 PM
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2021, 12:43:52 PM
   movie of the year.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 11, 2021, 12:58:36 PM

  Biden still  everyone's president though.


& now Taliban love Joe too , they just love all those Hummers ........................ .....
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 11, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
100 pages and still the answer everyone wants to know eludes us . . . .

1.   Does Straw even Lift

2.  Is the dump cleaned up ?

3.  Is Michelle Obama really “Big Mike” ?

4.  Will Basile stop being a Kvnt and finally debate Goodrum online ?

5.  Are there any nudes of AOC online ?


Which is dirtier?

A) strawman's yard
B) hunter's browser history
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2021, 04:36:28 PM
100 pages and still the answer everyone wants to know eludes us . . . .

1.   Does Straw even Lift   No

2.  Is the dump cleaned up ?   No

3.  Is Michelle Obama really “Big Mike” ?     Possibly

4.  Will Basile stop being a Kvnt and finally debate Goodrum online ?    No

5.  Are there any nudes of AOC online ?     Possibly
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 04:41:08 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 11, 2021, 04:45:32 PM


Congrats on the 100th page. How will you ever top this crowning achievement? 🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2021, 05:14:01 PM
Congrats on the 100th page. How will you ever top this crowning achievement? 🤣
How low of an opinion must you have of Straw man that you believe this thread must be a crowning achievement for him? :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 06:24:34 PM
How low of an opinion must you have of Straw man that you believe this thread must be a crowning achievement for him? :D

Trumptards never get sarcasm or irony
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on July 11, 2021, 07:49:42 PM
Trumptards never get sarcasm or irony

Trumptards are like a reality TV version of The Onion.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 11, 2021, 07:53:02 PM
Trumptards never get sarcasm or irony


This is def the most attention you will ever receive. Your multiple attempts at starting threads never catch on....


It occurred to me a few pages ago that OP should delete the thread soon.
  8)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 08:22:17 PM

This is def the most attention you will ever receive. Your multiple attempts at starting threads never catch on....


It occurred to me a few pages ago that OP should delete the thread soon.
  8)

LOL

delete away

this thread is stupid just like the phony "coach" who started it

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2021, 08:23:33 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 12, 2021, 08:41:33 AM
Trumptards never get sarcasm or irony
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2021, 08:45:00 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Even Bill Mahr calling out liberal fags for being so ignorant of basic facts.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 12, 2021, 09:08:55 AM
Even Bill Mahr calling out liberal fags for being so ignorant of basic facts.


   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 12, 2021, 09:11:25 AM
   
     100 more pages TDS is not completely purged yet. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2021, 09:24:11 AM
   


Good diversion.  Mahr obliterated liberals on their behaviors these past 2 years.   Own it.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 12, 2021, 09:34:37 AM
Good diversion.  Mahr obliterated liberals on their behaviors these past 2 years.   Own it.
       
     again not a liberal just an old  independent geezer, who can still open my own water bottles thanks to the use of my heavy grips. as an independent I can poke fun at the extremes of both parties, right and left.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2021, 09:53:32 AM
       
     again not a liberal just an old  independent geezer, who can still open my own water bottles thanks to the use of my heavy grips. as an independent I can poke fun at the extremes of both parties, right and left.

Mean!!!  And yes - i bought those and have them to help my weaknesses in grip strength.   :D ;D. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 12, 2021, 10:05:16 AM
Mean!!!  And yes - i bought those and have them to help my weaknesses in grip strength.   :D ;D.
   
   
    good to hear. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2021, 07:50:31 PM
     again not a liberal just an old  independent geezer,
The biggest lie you ever told.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2021, 07:53:10 PM
The biggest lie you ever told.

This
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 09:59:23 AM
The biggest lie you ever told.
     
                    not a lie,  it's the truth, of course you guys believe the truth isn't always the truth.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 10:07:47 AM
&t=147s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 10:09:20 AM
&t=2s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 13, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
     
                    not a lie,  it's the truth, of course you guys believe the truth isn't always the truth.

Fruity Rudy... Cap'n Insano..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
Seinfeld was great.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 12:50:21 PM
&t=12s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
 
     
     :o :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 13, 2021, 01:29:00 PM
I guess the new goal is on to 200! 

Clean up that FNG dump! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 01:40:28 PM
I guess the new goal is on to 200! 

Clean up that FNG dump!
     
     why not, I'm in  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 13, 2021, 01:41:24 PM
     
     why not, I'm in  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 01:45:07 PM
     there's a lesson here , somewhere.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 01:57:42 PM
;D :D
     
     now go lift and don't forget  to do some grip work. :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 14, 2021, 11:50:22 AM
Lou dwarfs Arnold but size isn't everything.  Lou was a huge underachiever in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2021, 03:51:11 PM
I guess the new goal is on to 200! 

Clean up that FNG dump!
If you deleted the funkylib51's youtube links the thread would only be 25 pages.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 14, 2021, 05:26:35 PM
If you deleted the funkylib51's youtube links the thread would only be 25 pages.

funk41 is BoB's wheelschaired bodyguard  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2021, 05:43:43 PM
Brutal

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 14, 2021, 08:31:00 PM
Brutal

And I'm still here and you're still my bitch
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
And I'm still here and you're still my bitch
That makes you Trumps bitch. ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
And I'm still here and you're still my bitch

lol....good one, Karl

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 14, 2021, 09:29:21 PM
That makes you Trumps bitch. ;)

LOL

that's Trumptard logic for you

You and all Trumptards are Reality's Bitch
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2021, 09:38:35 PM
LOL

that's Trumptard logic for you

You and all Trumptards are Reality's Bitch
And you are your husbands bitch.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2021, 09:59:11 PM
And you are your husbands bitch.

lurker
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 14, 2021, 10:13:03 PM
LOL

that's Trumptard logic for you

You and all Trumptards are Reality's Bitch


"Muchos Gracias" Senor BoB, are you gonna fight for el Comandante in Havana !. 7


                                          ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 15, 2021, 03:50:30 AM
.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 15, 2021, 04:51:47 AM
funk41 is BoB's wheelschaired bodyguard  :D
   
     it's 51 don't make it any worse than it is.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:47 AM
lol....good one, Karl
               
      now that's a good one   ;D ;D ;D especially since I've personally gotten 6 robocalls from  lara trump , eric or one other of trump's minions. that and 4 letters asking for money to finance his various schemes.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 15, 2021, 06:32:31 AM
If you deleted the funkylib51's youtube links the thread would only be 25 pages.
   
     at least a lot of them are bodybuilding oriented and somewhat educational. I'm one of the few positive members on here, you seldom see me running people down without just cause. I live by the golden rule. you would be well served following my example.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 15, 2021, 07:21:31 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 15, 2021, 01:58:04 PM
   
     it's 51 don't make it any worse than it is.


Shit, are you need another surgery  :-\
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 16, 2021, 11:40:19 AM

Shit, are you need another surgery  :-\
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 16, 2021, 11:56:33 AM
Democratic HQ, Feds Say
Zoe Richards  37 mins ago
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The fourth wave of COVID-19 has arrived in US. How big will it get?
Psaki criticizes 'loaded and inaccurate' question from Fox's Doocy

Two Trump fanatics who abused steroids and had access to a disturbing home arsenal plotted to blow up a Democratic building in the wake of Biden’s win—and even reached out to the Proud Boys for help, according to new indictments unsealed Thursday.

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According to court documents filed by DOJ attorneys in the Northern District of California, Ian Benjamin Rogers, 45, of Napa, and Jarrod Copeland, 37, of Vallejo started plotting to attack Democratic targets as early as November, after former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election. They also contacted anti-government groups with the hopes of rallying them to commit similar acts of violence and overthrow the government, the indictment alleges.





Through a messaging app, the pair had discussed using “Molotov cocktails and gasoline,” to take out the California governor’s mansion as early as Nov. 25, according to court documents.

Then days before the Capitol insurrection, Rogers allegedly insisted the pair needed backup support from other groups in their plot. Text messages recovered from Rogers’ phone showed an effort to keep Trump in power at all costs, and showed that he intended to attack Democrats and places associated with Democrats in an effort to keep Trump in office, DOJ officials said.

“We need help though and I don’t know how to get more people involve [sic],” Rogers allegedly wrote in a message on Jan. 4.

Copeland responded: “Proud boys and 3%” then allegedly wrote that he had “emailed proud boys.”

Days after the Capitol assault, Copeland—who once deserted the U.S. Army —lauded “REVOLUTION” in messages to Rogers and fantasized about drinking Red Bulls, and grabbing his tactical gear and weapons, according to court documents. “I’m fucking juiced!!!!!” he wrote. “I’m bout to throw my gear on and drive around and punish sombitces.”

In the days that followed, the pair, who spent $1,200 on a stash of steroids, pointedly discussed targeting the Sacramento office as part of an initial attack. “I want to blow up a democrat building bad,” Rogers allegedly wrote. Copeland responded: “I agree” and “Plan attack,” the indictment says.

Both men allegedly planned to use incendiary or explosive devices in their attacks and believed the attacks would start a movement. They allegedly intended to initiate their plans following the January inauguration.

“Let’s see what happens after the 20th we go to war,” Rogers allegedly told Copeland in a message dated Jan. 11.

Rogers has been in custody since January when law enforcement officials searched his home and business and discovered a stash of weapons including 49 firearms, two dozen boxes of ammunition containing thousands of rounds of ammunition, and five pipe bombs, according to a criminal complaint at the time.

During their search, officers also seized two copies of books titled “U.S. Army Special Forces Guide to Unconventional Warfare,” and “U.S. Army Guerrilla Warfare Handbook.” They also identified a “Three Percenters” sticker on Rogers’ car, the complaint said.

After learning of Rogers’ arrest, according to prosecutors, Copeland allegedly contacted an unnamed militia group to which both men belonged that was affiliated with the Three Percenters, an anti-government militia group which advocates armed rebellion against the federal government. According to the indictment, members of the militia advised Copeland to use a different messaging app and delete communications with Rogers. Copeland was taken into custody on Wednesday.

Both men were charged with conspiracy to destroy by fire or explosive a building used or in affecting interstate commerce. Rogers is also charged with possession of unregistered destructive devices and possession of machine guns. Copeland faces an additional count of destruction of records, the DOJ said.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Craig Fair lauded the prevention of the attack in a statement Thursday.

“The FBI’s highest priority has remained preventing terrorist attacks before they occur, including homegrown plots from domestic violent extremists,” Fair said. “As described in the indictment, Ian Rogers and Jarrod Copeland planned an attack using incendiary devices. The FBI and the Napa County Sheriff’s Office have worked hand-in-hand to uncover this conspiracy and to prevent any loss of life.”

onward to 200.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:01 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2021, 06:04:35 PM
Can't be mentally healthy to spend that much time obsessing over one man.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 16, 2021, 07:31:16 PM
These twatlings are now squealing about how President Trump was plotting a "coup".  I hope all libs covid up or Kobe down.  Fuck 'em all to Hades.  Assholes that deserve teh AIDS and teh Covid.  Seriously, I hope they catch it and die from it.  Fuck 'em.

And when they die from it, I hope I am wrong and there is a Hell and they are in it for eternity.  Kunts.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2021, 07:33:14 PM
D’oh

https://m.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-july-16-74k-ballots-returned-without-records-18k-voters-taken-off-rolls-after-election-ceo_3905536.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Taffin on July 17, 2021, 08:04:18 AM
These twatlings are now squealing about how President Trump was plotting a "coup".  I hope all libs covid up or Kobe down.  Fuck 'em all to Hades.  Assholes that deserve teh AIDS and teh Covid.  Seriously, I hope they catch it and die from it.  Fuck 'em.

And when they die from it, I hope I am wrong and there is a Hell and they are in it for eternity.  Kunts.

 :D

COVID of teh AIDS?  :'(

 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2021, 10:05:43 AM
If you are confused as to why so many Americans are defending the confederate flag, monuments, and statues right now, I put together a quick Q&A, with questions from a hypothetical person with misconceptions and answers from my perspective as an AP U.S. History Teacher:
Q: What did the Confederacy stand for?
A: Rather than interpreting, let's go directly to the words of the Confederacy's Vice President, Alexander Stephens. In his "Cornerstone Speech" on March 21, 1861, he stated "The Constitution... rested upon the equality of races. This was an error. Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
Q: But people keep saying heritage, not hate! They think the purpose of the flags and monuments are to honor confederate soldiers, right?
A: The vast majority of confederate flags flying over government buildings in the south were first put up in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement. So for the first hundred years after the Civil War ended, while relatives of those who fought in it were still alive, the confederate flag wasn't much of a symbol at all. But when Martin Luther King, Jr. and John Lewis were marching on Washington to get the Civil Rights Act (1964) and Voting Rights Act (1965) passed, leaders in the south felt compelled to fly confederate flags and put up monuments to honor people who had no living family members and had fought in a war that ended a century ago. Their purpose in doing this was to exhibit their displeasure with black people fighting for basic human rights that were guaranteed to them in the 14th and 15th Amendments but being withheld by racist policies and practices.
Q: But if we take down confederate statues and monuments, how will we teach about and remember the past?
A: Monuments and statues pose little educational relevance, whereas museums, the rightful place for Confederate paraphernalia, can provide more educational opportunities for citizens to learn about our country's history. The Civil War is important to learn about, and will always loom large in social studies curriculum. Removing monuments from public places and putting them in museums also allows us to avoid celebrating and honoring people who believed that tens of millions of black Americans should be legal property.
Q: But what if the Confederate flag symbol means something different to me?
A: Individuals aren't able to change the meaning of symbols that have been defined by history. When I hang a Bucs flag outside my house, to me, the Bucs might represent the best team in the NFL, but to the outside world, they represent an awful NFL team, since they haven't won a playoff game in 18 years. I can't change that meaning for everyone who drives by my house because it has been established for the whole world to see. If a Confederate flag stands for generic rebellion or southern pride to you, your personal interpretation forfeits any meaning once you display it publicly, as its meaning takes on the meaning it earned when a failed regime killed hundreds of thousands of Americans in an attempt to destroy America and keep black people enslaved forever.
Q: But my uncle posted a meme that said the Civil War/Confederacy was about state's rights and not slavery?
A: "A state's right to what?" - John Green
Q: Everyone is offended about everything these days. Should we take everything down that offends anyone?
A: The Confederacy literally existed to go against the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the idea that black people are human beings that deserve to live freely. If that doesn't upset or offend you, you are un-American.
Q: Taking these down goes against the First Amendment and freedom of speech, right?
A: No. Anyone can do whatever they want on their private property, on their social media, etc. Taking these down in public, or having private corporations like NASCAR ban them on their properties, has literally nothing to do with the Bill of Rights.
Q: How can people claim to be patriotic while supporting a flag that stood for a group of insurgent failures who tried to permanently destroy America and killed 300,000 Americans in the process?
A: No clue.
Q: So if I made a confederate flag my profile picture, or put a confederate bumper sticker on my car, what am I declaring to my friends, family, and the world?
A: That you support the Confederacy. To recap, the Confederacy stands for: slavery, white supremacy, treason, failure, and a desire to permanently destroy Selective history as it supports white supremacy.
It’s no accident that:
You learned about Helen Keller instead of W.E.B, DuBois           
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2021, 10:49:48 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2021, 10:51:13 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2021, 11:32:55 AM
     THE MYTH   
    the reality    ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 17, 2021, 12:14:13 PM
If you are confused as to why so many Americans are defending the confederate flag, monuments, and statues right now, I put together a quick Q&A, with questions from a hypothetical person with misconceptions and answers from my perspective as an AP U.S. History Teacher:
Q: What did the Confederacy stand for?
A: Rather than interpreting, let's go directly to the words of the Confederacy's Vice President, Alexander Stephens. In his "Cornerstone Speech" on March 21, 1861, he stated "The Constitution... rested upon the equality of races. This was an error. Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
Q: But people keep saying heritage, not hate! They think the purpose of the flags and monuments are to honor confederate soldiers, right?
A: The vast majority of confederate flags flying over government buildings in the south were first put up in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement. So for the first hundred years after the Civil War ended, while relatives of those who fought in it were still alive, the confederate flag wasn't much of a symbol at all. But when Martin Luther King, Jr. and John Lewis were marching on Washington to get the Civil Rights Act (1964) and Voting Rights Act (1965) passed, leaders in the south felt compelled to fly confederate flags and put up monuments to honor people who had no living family members and had fought in a war that ended a century ago. Their purpose in doing this was to exhibit their displeasure with black people fighting for basic human rights that were guaranteed to them in the 14th and 15th Amendments but being withheld by racist policies and practices.
Q: But if we take down confederate statues and monuments, how will we teach about and remember the past?
A: Monuments and statues pose little educational relevance, whereas museums, the rightful place for Confederate paraphernalia, can provide more educational opportunities for citizens to learn about our country's history. The Civil War is important to learn about, and will always loom large in social studies curriculum. Removing monuments from public places and putting them in museums also allows us to avoid celebrating and honoring people who believed that tens of millions of black Americans should be legal property.
Q: But what if the Confederate flag symbol means something different to me?
A: Individuals aren't able to change the meaning of symbols that have been defined by history. When I hang a Bucs flag outside my house, to me, the Bucs might represent the best team in the NFL, but to the outside world, they represent an awful NFL team, since they haven't won a playoff game in 18 years. I can't change that meaning for everyone who drives by my house because it has been established for the whole world to see. If a Confederate flag stands for generic rebellion or southern pride to you, your personal interpretation forfeits any meaning once you display it publicly, as its meaning takes on the meaning it earned when a failed regime killed hundreds of thousands of Americans in an attempt to destroy America and keep black people enslaved forever.
Q: But my uncle posted a meme that said the Civil War/Confederacy was about state's rights and not slavery?
A: "A state's right to what?" - John Green
Q: Everyone is offended about everything these days. Should we take everything down that offends anyone?
A: The Confederacy literally existed to go against the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the idea that black people are human beings that deserve to live freely. If that doesn't upset or offend you, you are un-American.
Q: Taking these down goes against the First Amendment and freedom of speech, right?
A: No. Anyone can do whatever they want on their private property, on their social media, etc. Taking these down in public, or having private corporations like NASCAR ban them on their properties, has literally nothing to do with the Bill of Rights.
Q: How can people claim to be patriotic while supporting a flag that stood for a group of insurgent failures who tried to permanently destroy America and killed 300,000 Americans in the process?
A: No clue.
Q: So if I made a confederate flag my profile picture, or put a confederate bumper sticker on my car, what am I declaring to my friends, family, and the world?
A: That you support the Confederacy. To recap, the Confederacy stands for: slavery, white supremacy, treason, failure, and a desire to permanently destroy Selective history as it supports white supremacy.
It’s no accident that:
You learned about Helen Keller instead of W.E.B, DuBois           

And your point is?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 17, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2021, 02:23:48 PM
If you are confused as to why so many Americans are defending the confederate flag, monuments, and statues right now, I put together a quick Q&A, with questions from a hypothetical person with misconceptions and answers from my perspective as an AP U.S. History Teacher:
Q: What did the Confederacy stand for?
A: Rather than interpreting, let's go directly to the words of the Confederacy's Vice President, Alexander Stephens. In his "Cornerstone Speech" on March 21, 1861, he stated "The Constitution... rested upon the equality of races. This was an error. Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
Q: But people keep saying heritage, not hate! They think the purpose of the flags and monuments are to honor confederate soldiers, right?
A: The vast majority of confederate flags flying over government buildings in the south were first put up in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement. So for the first hundred years after the Civil War ended, while relatives of those who fought in it were still alive, the confederate flag wasn't much of a symbol at all. But when Martin Luther King, Jr. and John Lewis were marching on Washington to get the Civil Rights Act (1964) and Voting Rights Act (1965) passed, leaders in the south felt compelled to fly confederate flags and put up monuments to honor people who had no living family members and had fought in a war that ended a century ago. Their purpose in doing this was to exhibit their displeasure with black people fighting for basic human rights that were guaranteed to them in the 14th and 15th Amendments but being withheld by racist policies and practices.
Q: But if we take down confederate statues and monuments, how will we teach about and remember the past?
A: Monuments and statues pose little educational relevance, whereas museums, the rightful place for Confederate paraphernalia, can provide more educational opportunities for citizens to learn about our country's history. The Civil War is important to learn about, and will always loom large in social studies curriculum. Removing monuments from public places and putting them in museums also allows us to avoid celebrating and honoring people who believed that tens of millions of black Americans should be legal property.
Q: But what if the Confederate flag symbol means something different to me?
A: Individuals aren't able to change the meaning of symbols that have been defined by history. When I hang a Bucs flag outside my house, to me, the Bucs might represent the best team in the NFL, but to the outside world, they represent an awful NFL team, since they haven't won a playoff game in 18 years. I can't change that meaning for everyone who drives by my house because it has been established for the whole world to see. If a Confederate flag stands for generic rebellion or southern pride to you, your personal interpretation forfeits any meaning once you display it publicly, as its meaning takes on the meaning it earned when a failed regime killed hundreds of thousands of Americans in an attempt to destroy America and keep black people enslaved forever.
Q: But my uncle posted a meme that said the Civil War/Confederacy was about state's rights and not slavery?
A: "A state's right to what?" - John Green
Q: Everyone is offended about everything these days. Should we take everything down that offends anyone?
A: The Confederacy literally existed to go against the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the idea that black people are human beings that deserve to live freely. If that doesn't upset or offend you, you are un-American.
Q: Taking these down goes against the First Amendment and freedom of speech, right?
A: No. Anyone can do whatever they want on their private property, on their social media, etc. Taking these down in public, or having private corporations like NASCAR ban them on their properties, has literally nothing to do with the Bill of Rights.
Q: How can people claim to be patriotic while supporting a flag that stood for a group of insurgent failures who tried to permanently destroy America and killed 300,000 Americans in the process?
A: No clue.
Q: So if I made a confederate flag my profile picture, or put a confederate bumper sticker on my car, what am I declaring to my friends, family, and the world?
A: That you support the Confederacy. To recap, the Confederacy stands for: slavery, white supremacy, treason, failure, and a desire to permanently destroy Selective history as it supports white supremacy.
It’s no accident that:
You learned about Helen Keller instead of W.E.B, DuBois           

Not going to read this liberal retard drivel.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 17, 2021, 03:23:00 PM
LOL

that's Trumptard logic for you

You and all Trumptards are Reality's Bitch


Tell us about Biden & Taliban Reality BITCHING
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 17, 2021, 03:25:20 PM




                                            I'm one of the few positive members on here,




 :o :o :o  ::) ::) ::)  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 06:22:27 AM
     strange cover of an old classic. ah wat
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
     strange cover of an old classic. ah wat
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:18:08 AM
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:20:00 AM
   

   
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:21:51 AM
   
   

   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:23:20 AM
   
   

   
      progress.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 09:25:07 AM
 ::)
   
      progress.
   
     page 103 is all about the coal. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2021, 09:53:30 AM
Should change the thread title to "funk51's dementia ridden TDS youtube drivel" :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2021, 10:23:25 AM
The mess still goes on . . .
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2021, 10:25:58 AM
Should change the thread title to "funk51's dementia ridden TDS youtube drivel" :D

Or he could just start his own thread so we can derail it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 10:28:36 AM
Should change the thread title to "funk51's dementia ridden TDS youtube drivel" :D
    as a mod you could actually do it. would make about as much sense as anything about this thread. one member calling for a ban of another just because he don't like him. i like every body on this site even you mister chaos ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :) :) :), we are all brothers of the iron, kind of like a code of steel. ::) :o :D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
    as a mod you could actually do it. would make about as much sense as anything about this thread. one member calling for a ban of another just because he don't like him. i like every body on this site even you mister chaos ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :) :) :), we are all brothers of the iron, kind of like a code of steel. ::) :o :D ;)

You’re not even reading hardly anything in this thread. You don’t even read the novels you cut and paste. If that’s what you think then don’t post on it. I know you’re trying to protect your “boy” Strawman
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2021, 10:51:54 AM
You’re not even reading hardly anything in this thread. You don’t even read the novels you cut and paste. If that’s what you think then don’t post on it. I know you’re trying to protect your “boy” Strawman
   I think all voices should be heard, if someone would say let's ban coach, I would stick up for you and say let's not. as far as the novels go, I usually don't read them in their entirety, but if it's something that interests me, I might come back later and read the whole thing. I'd say 20 percent of the time I will,  unless it's political then probably not. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2021, 01:03:53 PM
   I think all voices should be heard, if someone would say let's ban coach, I would stick up for you and say let's not. as far as the novels go, I usually don't read them in their entirety, but if it's something that interests me, I might come back later and read the whole thing. I'd say 20 percent of the time I will,  unless it's political then probably not. ;D ;)

Yes, they should unless you’re purposely trolling then it’s just...trolling but you don’t come in an hijack a thread with off completely off topic content just because you don’t like. I love all the old school strength and bodybuilding content you post. But start a thread for it and not hijack someone else’s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2021, 01:44:36 PM
    as a mod you could actually do it. would make about as much sense as anything about this thread. one member calling for a ban of another just because he don't like him. i like every body on this site even you mister chaos ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :) :) :), we are all brothers of the iron, kind of like a code of steel. ::) :o :D ;)
So can the guy that made the first post.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 18, 2021, 02:49:43 PM
Should change the thread title to "funk51's dementia ridden TDS youtube drivel" :D


Or "funk41 & 9 hips replacements"  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 18, 2021, 05:54:54 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 19, 2021, 06:14:39 AM

   
   
    I was going to get a wolf hybrid but changed my mind due to age. I might eventually get another husky though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 19, 2021, 07:05:41 AM
White Fang - Legendary Funk Pup...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 19, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 19, 2021, 04:05:46 PM
I told you Straw is a good dude, he likes Pups!!  ^^
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 20, 2021, 05:15:31 AM

     
                                           the answer to who let the dogs out
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 20, 2021, 05:19:13 AM
       who doesn't like dogs. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 20, 2021, 03:09:19 PM
     
                                           the answer to who let the dogs out


Holly shit, Joe Biden look a like  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 20, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
       who doesn't like dogs. ??? ??? ???

agreed, you'd have to be a real piece of human scum to not like dogs

Apparently THE TRAITOR doesn't like them ....at least according to his first wife who said  “Donald was not a dog fan,”

Quote
And as The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker noted last year, Trump has a long-standing habit of comparing people who he perceives as enemies to dogs, often while accusing them of behavior not normally associated with canines.

Former chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon was “dumped like a dog by almost everyone.” Mitt Romney “choked like a dog” during the 2012 presidential election. The New Hampshire Union Leader was “kicked out of the ABC News debate like a dog” in 2016.[/b] Conservative radio host Glenn Beck, retired Army Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, journalist David Gregory, conservative commentator Erick Erickson and the communications director for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) have all been “fired like a dog,” despite the fact that dogs are not typically known to have jobs. Other people who have been directly likened to dogs include the now-deceased rapper Mac Miller, former Obama senior adviser David Axelrod and former “The Apprentice” star and White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/12/trump-first-president-century-with-no-dog-explains-why-i-dont-have-any-time/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 20, 2021, 05:07:44 PM
agreed, you'd have to be a real piece of human scum to not like dogs

Apparently THE TRAITOR doesn't like them ....at least according to his first wife who said  “Donald was not a dog fan,”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/12/trump-first-president-century-with-no-dog-explains-why-i-dont-have-any-time/

I just love how he owns that empty piece of real estate in your head 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 20, 2021, 05:24:09 PM
I just love how he owns that empty piece of real estate in your head 😂

so says the phony "coach"

all I did was answer Funks question about what kind of person doesn't like dogs

don't blame me if THE TRAITOR is a well known dog hater
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 20, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
so says the phony "coach"

all I did was answer Funks question about what kind of person doesn't like dogs

don't blame me if THE TRAITOR is a well known dog hater

The fact you have to insert him in every post is enough to prove my point, Karl 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 20, 2021, 06:13:16 PM
The fact you have to insert him in every post is enough to prove my point, Karl 😂

Do you EVER stop being a whiny little bitch

Funk asked a question and I gave him an answer

THE TRAITOR just happens to be the only person I can think of who hates dogs

If you can think of someone else feel free to respond to him if you'd like

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 20, 2021, 06:51:32 PM
Do you EVER stop being a whiny little bitch

Funk asked a question and I gave him an answer

THE TRAITOR just happens to be the only person I can think of who hates dogs

If you can think of someone else feel free to respond to him if you'd like

Micheal Vick...or was that racist?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 20, 2021, 06:53:46 PM
agreed, you'd have to be a real piece of human scum to not like dogs

Apparently THE TRAITOR doesn't like them ....at least according to his first wife who said  “Donald was not a dog fan,”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/12/trump-first-president-century-with-no-dog-explains-why-i-dont-have-any-time/
Dude, in all seriousness, take a break, turn off cnn, go outside, get away from politics, your TDS obsession is dangerous to your health at this point.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 20, 2021, 07:09:15 PM
Dude, in all seriousness, take a break, turn off cnn, go outside, get away from politics, your TDS obsession is dangerous to your health at this point.

probably good advice from all of us. interject FOX, Brietbart, etc along with CNN... 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 20, 2021, 07:12:30 PM
probably good advice from all of us. interject FOX, Brietbart, etc along with CNN...
:D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 20, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
:D

you caught me... I meant "for"... can't get nothing by old Chaos.. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 20, 2021, 09:02:03 PM
agreed, you'd have to be a real piece of human scum to not like dogs

Apparently BoB Z. doesn't like them ....at least according to his first boyfriend who said  “BoB was not a dog fan,”




fixed  ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 20, 2021, 09:12:19 PM
For the record, I am not a cat person. If I meet a cat and spend time with it, 9 times out of 10 I like that specific cat but I don't care for all cats. Might be tied to my severe allergy to them but I don't know.. could be my love for dogs... Just sayin'
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2021, 06:04:16 AM

Holly shit, Joe Biden look a like  ;D ;D ;D
     
      sure does :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 09:53:23 AM
Dude, in all seriousness, take a break, turn off cnn, go outside, get away from politics, your TDS obsession is dangerous to your health at this point.

You post MORE THAN ME Dumbass (take a look at your daily average compared to mine)

Typical Trumptard hypocrisy

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 10:14:37 AM
Joe:

"All I know is Ole Cornpop is a bad dude man, Cmon"??
"My boy Hunter, you know the child-rapist? Yeah, the crack-head"...
"The one who does illegal deals w/ me in China and Ukraine! Yes, thats the one"!

"I taught him how to rape way back, when I got my own kid in the shower, I showed him good I did"!
"I also git Hunter in the ole Cornhole,  just like ole Cornpop". "Now he's a bad dude (and rapie-crackhead)"!!

"Give me a break man, Cmon"??????
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 11:18:48 AM
Joe:

"All I know is Ole Cornpop is a bad dude man, Cmon"??
"My boy Hunter, you know the child-rapist? Yeah, the crack-head"...
"The one who does illegal deals w/ me in China and Ukraine! Yes, thats the one"!

"I taught him how to rape way back, when I got my own kid in the shower, I showed him good I did"!
"I also git Hunter in the ole Cornhole,  just like ole Cornpop". "Now he's a bad dude (and rapie-crackhead)"!!

"Give me a break man, Cmon"??????

read this so you can learn how quotation marks work

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 11:24:04 AM
read this so you can learn how quotation marks work

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/

If I cared, I might...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 21, 2021, 11:35:19 AM
read this so you can learn how quotation marks work

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/


This reminds me of Adam Schiff....remember when he made up "quotes" that Trump had on a phone call in congress and later called it parody?

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 11:51:52 AM
https://nypost.com/article/worst-joe-biden-gaffes/

“I am a gaffe machine,” Joe Biden admitted in 2018.

Throughout his 47 years in public life, our presumptive president-elect has had a habit of letting his glib tongue run ahead of his brain.

Just last week, Biden raised eyebrows with a garbled explanation of how he and his soon-to-be veep, Kamala Harris, would resolve a serious disagreement.

“I will develop some disease and say I have to resign,” he told CNN, as Harris shook her head in bewilderment.

Many supporters see Biden’s verbal stumbles as endearing — but his chronic case of foot-in-mouth often reveals his ornery side. Take the incident last December when he exploded at an Iowa Democrat who challenged him with some impertinent questions.

“You’re a damn liar, man,” Biden sputtered in an eruption of insults.

Later, one reporter chided him for the flare-up. “You talk about needing to restore civility,” she began.

“It’s not civil to call someone who lied a liar?” Biden bristled in response.

For a man who ran on the promise of a return to political decorum, Biden has a long history of bigoted cracks, public put-downs, and angry outbursts. Here are some of the most notorious …

“A Much Higher IQ,” 1987
Three decades ago, Biden’s verbal attack on a voter at a New Hampshire house party helped derail his first presidential campaign.

When Claremont, NH, high-school teacher Frank Fahey asked Biden what law school he attended, the then-senator from Delaware melted down.

“I probably have a much higher IQ than you do, I suspect,” Biden snapped as he expounded on a glittering academic record that, reporters later found, was largely imaginary.

The exchange, captured by C-Span’s cameras, resurfaced months later, when Biden was revealed as a serial plagiarist going back to his college days. He abandoned his White House bid soon after.

“Slight Indian Accent,” 2006
In 2006, as he explored a second presidential run, Biden’s penchant for racial insensitivity caused him repeated headaches.

“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans, moving from India,” he told one voter.

“You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. And I’m not joking,” he added with a grin.

Indian-American groups objected to what they called “embarrassing, stereotypical comments.”

“We do appreciate knowing what he really thinks of his Indian-American constituents,” said Dr. Raghavendra Vijayanagar of the Indian-American Republican Council.

“Articulate and Bright and Clean,” 2007
Biden’s attempt at magnanimity toward a fellow presidential hopeful backfired spectacularly in 2007.

“I mean, you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean,” Biden said of then-Sen. Barack Obama as both campaigned ahead of the 2008 primaries. “That’s a storybook, man.”

The backhanded compliment instantly branded Biden, then 65, as an out-of-touch remnant of a racially tone-deaf generation — and helped to elevate Obama above the rest of the pack.

“I didn’t take Sen. Biden’s comments personally,” Obama said in a carefully distanced response. “Obviously they were historically inaccurate.”

Debate debacle, 2012
Voters cringed through the vice-presidential debate between Biden and Republican Paul Ryan in 2012, as the hyper-aggressive veep put on a bravura 90-minute display of mugging and eye-rolling.

“Oh, now you’re Jack Kennedy?” Biden broke in as Ryan explained how the GOP’s tax-cut plan mirrored Kennedy’s in 1960.

“Look, this is a bunch of stuff,” he exclaimed later.

All told, Biden interrupted Ryan 85 times with sudden guffaws and dismissive interjections — a heckling strategy much like the one that Donald Trump turned on Biden in their first debate this year.

“You Stupid Bastards,” 2016
A peevish Biden scolded American troops for their tepid response to a set-up applause line in 2016.

“Clap for that, you stupid bastards,” the vice-president barked, minutes into his speech to the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing stationed in Abu Dhabi.

Biden was seeking kudos for his “incredibly good judgment” in having nominated one of the group’s officers to the Air Force Academy — but his pronouncement was met with crickets.

“Man, you are a dull bunch,” he complained, as service members standing behind him gave him the side-eye.

“Gangbangers,” 2019
Biden’s apparent cluelessness about racially sensitive language has repeatedly landed him in hot water. One day after Kamala Harris scorched him for his past opposition to racially integrating schools through busing in a June 2019 debate, Biden fumbled to redeem himself.

“We’ve got to recognize that a kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate,” he told members of Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow PUSH Coalition — “not a gangbanger.”

In seeking to dispel damaging stereotypes, critics said, Biden reinforced them.

“This is just another example of lessons that Joe Biden shouldn’t have to learn,” sighed New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker.

“Poor Kids” vs. “White Kids,” 2019
A speech to a group of minority activists in Des Moines, Iowa, set the stage for a stunning Biden blunder.

“We should challenge students in these schools to have Advanced Placement programs,” he said at an Aug. 8, 2019, town hall.

“We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor you can not do it,” Biden went on. “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

After a pause, he realized his faux pas.

“Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids,” he revamped. “No, I really mean it, but think how we think about it.”

“Look, Fat,” 2019    

And many more....

--

One week after his humiliating fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, Biden slammed a young voter with a head-scratching taunt.

“How can you explain the performance in Iowa, and why should the voters believe you can win the national election?” Madison Moore (above), a 21-year-old college student, asked at a campaign stop in Hampton, NH.

“Ever been to a caucus?” Biden challenged her.

Moore nodded yes.

“No, you haven’t,” he told the dumbfounded young woman. “You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier.”

Moore later criticized Biden’s “inability to answer a simple question from a nobody college student like me.”

“It was kind of humiliating to be called a liar on national TV by the former vice president,” she told the Macon Telegraph.

Agent Orange would still be getting Libtard death threats if he ever did that to an ANTIFA-Turd, Karen, BLM, Man-Bunner...

Plus Bidens are rapists.                 Plus Bidens are rapists.                    Plus Bidens are rapists.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
Middle of summer and the premises are still strewn with garbage and trash everywhere.   Typical liberal.  Make a mess and expect everyone else to clean up. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on July 21, 2021, 12:00:52 PM
Middle of summer and the premises are still strewn with garbage and trash everywhere.   Typical liberal.  Make a mess and expect everyone else to clean up. 

Looks like he's been trying but needs more trash cans.

Needs a Go Fund Me.

(https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.4549936.1565813969!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:04:34 PM
The worlds failing, meanwhile back at the Biden Caulk-Cave:

(https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/joe-biden-ice-cream-rtr-img.jpg)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:07:39 PM
Joe's 1st sife was pretty clueless:

At approximately 2:30 p.m., Neilia was driving westbound on rural Valley Road in Hockessin, the three children accompanying her in the family station wagon. She pulled the car past a stop sign and directly into the path of a tractor-trailer, headed full-steam along Route 7 to Pennsylvania.

According to reports, the impact sent the station wagon hurling some 150 feet into an embankment, leaving "Biden for Senator" campaign literature scattered in its wake.

--

Was she listening to "Kiss Destroyer" at the time?? (There's a truck ahead, light staring at my eyes, Oh my god no time to turn)!!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:13:01 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:14:38 PM
(https://image.cagle.com/223538/750/223538.png)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:15:38 PM
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5VgAAOSwyd1gFmDf/s-l300.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 12:18:21 PM
(https://classicalpoets.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Biden-cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 01:09:03 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2021, 01:13:06 PM
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LOL - he is barely breathing and probably checked on a monitor minute by minute.   ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 01:15:33 PM
.

He is... And he's hysterical. Gotta love the comedy-factor.
He does a horrific job, but yes, he's our Prez... (I hate those tards that say "Not my President").  ::)

Yes he is, sorry...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 01:28:17 PM
He is... And he's hysterical. Gotta love the comedy-factor.
He does a horrific job, but yes, he's our Prez... (I hate those tards that say "Not my President").  ::)

Yes he is, sorry...

LOL - he is barely breathing and probably checked on a monitor minute by minute.   ;)

and yet he still managed to stomp the shit out of THE TRAITOR and has a better approval rating than THE TRAITOR ever had in his 4 years in office

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 21, 2021, 01:32:46 PM
and yet he still managed to stomp the shit out of THE TRAITOR and has a better approval rating than THE TRAITOR ever had in his 4 years in office

That only shows America is fukked up, has nothing to do w/ the candidates.
Remember their TDS, they would have voted in Osama Bin Laden if he were here to run.
Dont get so defensive of Joe Bob, he can handle himself.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2021, 01:53:39 PM
Liz Cheney Steamrolls Kevin McCarthy For Being A Traitor
By Caleb Newton -July 21, 2021
This Wednesday, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) expressed her support for a decision by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to reject two Republican House members who had been picked by House GOP leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) to serve on the committee that the House has set up to investigate the Capitol riot. Both members — Reps. Jim Jordan (Ohio) and Jim Banks (Ind.) — had voted against certifying Biden’s win, making their impartiality dubious. Subsequently, McCarthy petulantly announced that he’d be withdrawing all five of his selections for the committee, leaving Cheney, who’d been selected by Pelosi, as the only Republican on the panel. Speaking with reporters outside the Capitol, Cheney went after McCarthy, characterizing him as lacking a basic commitment to the “rule of law.”




Discussing recent developments, Cheney — who was one of ten House Republicans who voted in favor of impeaching Trump on a charge of incitement of insurrection after the riot — commented as follows on Wednesday:

‘THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THERE MUST BE AN INVESTIGATION THAT IS NON-PARTISAN, THAT IS SOBER, THAT IS SERIOUS, THAT GETS TO THE FACTS WHEREVER THEY MAY LEAD. AND AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, [MCCARTHY] HAS ATTEMPTED TO PREVENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED… THIS INVESTIGATION MUST GO FORWARD. THE IDEA THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE PLAYING POLITICS WITH AN ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL IS DESPICABLE AND IS DISGRACEFUL.’

Subsequently, asked if she believes that McCarthy “deserves” to serve as Speaker of the House, Cheney commented as follows:

‘I THINK THAT ANY PERSON WHO WOULD BE THIRD IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY MUST DEMONSTRATE A COMMITMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION AND A COMMITMENT TO THE RULE OF LAW, AND MINORITY LEADER MCCARTHY HAS NOT DONE THAT.’

Check out Cheney’s comments below:



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Next week, the House committee investigating the Capitol riot is planning to host a hearing with four local officers as witnesses. One of those present will be D.C. officer Michael Fanone, who has been particularly outspoken about his experiences while defending the Capitol against rioting Trump supporters in January. Trump supporters dragged him away from a group of officers, beat him, and repeatedly tased him at the base of his skull. Fanone is one of scores of officers who were seriously injured in attacks by Trump supporters at the Capitol. Overall, the investigation underway by the House committee will allow for an opportunity to examine the broader circumstances surrounding the Capitol riot — including the inspiration for the violence provided by Trump’s lies about the integrity of last year’s presidential election.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2021, 02:09:03 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2021, 02:13:13 PM
&t=47s    golf as usual. 
&t=13s    isn't this illegal. 
&t=27s  memories of his greatness comp for his fan boys.   
   a new era has begun
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2021, 02:17:20 PM
I can not shop at Costco anymore  :-)))))Yesterday I was at Costco buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Necco, the Wonder Dog, which weighs 191 lbs. I was in the check-out line when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog.What did she think I had an elephant?So because I'm retired and have little to do,on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again.I added that I probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it works is, to load your jacket pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry.The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.)Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stopped to Pee on a Fire Hydrant and a car hit me,
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard.
Costco won't let me shop there anymore.Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the World to think of crazy things to say.Forward this (especially) to all your retired friends...it will be their laugh for the day! DOGS
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on July 21, 2021, 05:01:22 PM
I can not shop at Costco anymore  :-)))))Yesterday I was at Costco buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Necco, the Wonder Dog, which weighs 191 lbs. I was in the check-out line when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog.What did she think I had an elephant?So because I'm retired and have little to do,on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again.I added that I probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it works is, to load your jacket pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry.The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.)Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stopped to Pee on a Fire Hydrant and a car hit me,
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard.
Costco won't let me shop there anymore.Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the World to think of crazy things to say.Forward this (especially) to all your retired friends...it will be their laugh for the day! DOGS

Love the story. Not sure I'd have the gumption to pull something like that off. I doubt though that Costco banned you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 21, 2021, 05:26:04 PM
you caught me... I meant "for"... can't get nothing by old Chaos..
You're slipping in retirement. :-*

You post MORE THAN ME Dumbass (take a look at your daily average compared to mine)

Typical Trumptard hypocrisy
For the record your posts are 99.97% about Trump or Trump related topics. Has nothing to do with HOW MANY TIMES YOU POST, it has to do with your chosen obsession, you fucking retarded dipshit. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2021, 05:29:19 PM
You're slipping in retirement. :-*
For the record your posts are 99.97% about Trump or Trump related topics. Has nothing to do with HOW MANY TIMES YOU POST, it has to do with your chosen obsession, you fucking retarded dipshit. ::)

😂🤣
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 05:44:01 PM
Love the story. Not sure I'd have the gumption to pull something like that off. I doubt though that Costco banned you.

fyi - it's not really his story...still funny though
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 21, 2021, 05:46:19 PM
You're slipping in retirement. :-*
For the record your posts are 99.97% about Trump or Trump related topics. Has nothing to do with HOW MANY TIMES YOU POST, it has to do with your chosen obsession, you fucking retarded dipshit. ::)

bullshit

btw - I'd be happy to never mention THE TRAITOR again

Maybe you haven't noticed but THE TRAITOR or a member of his crime family is in the new almost every day and unfortunately for you it's never good news

I understand that you'd prefer not to be reminded of all the terrible shit THE TRAITOR has said/done and continues to do.

I'll make a deal with you ...when THE TRAITOR or a member of his crime family is no longer in the news then I'll stop making posts about him

Deal?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 21, 2021, 05:51:48 PM
bullshit

This describes your post perfectly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 21, 2021, 06:02:05 PM
bullshit

btw - I'd be happy to never mention THE TRAITOR again

Maybe you haven't noticed but THE TRAITOR or a member of his crime family is in the new almost every day and unfortunately for you it's never good news

I understand that you'd prefer not to be reminded of all the terrible shit THE TRAITOR has said/done and continues to do.

I'll make a deal with you ...when THE TRAITOR or a member of his crime family is no longer in the news then I'll stop making posts about him

Deal?

Covid up kuntling.  You and all your kind.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 22, 2021, 03:21:13 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 22, 2021, 06:25:53 AM
     must see tv
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 22, 2021, 06:52:58 AM


    must see tv


Two nut-cases...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 22, 2021, 06:55:36 AM
Two nut-cases...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  exactly.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 22, 2021, 06:59:10 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on July 22, 2021, 10:15:01 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 22, 2021, 10:22:55 AM
Gotta love Joe's new quote  ???

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 22, 2021, 10:43:01 AM
Gotta love Joe's new quote  ???

“81mil votes”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2021, 10:46:34 AM
Gotta love Joe's new quote  ???

Dementia
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 22, 2021, 01:01:39 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on July 22, 2021, 05:47:54 PM
   


You do realize that the only people that agree with you here are buggier than batshit?  This does not bode well for you, my friend.  It appears you are playing moral limbo.  How low will you go?  It is no longer a game nor even a "gayme".  It has become as retarded a President Biden is demented. 

I am no longer a praying man.  It's your soul you're peddling here. If, that is, one exists.  If politics makes strange bedfellows then TDS makes you look stupid.  I'm no a fairy so I cannot help you out here.  Do as you wish.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 22, 2021, 06:03:07 PM

  a new era has begun



Yeah, but in Afghanistan !.Thanks to Biden & his general !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 22, 2021, 06:06:25 PM
I can not shop at Costco anymore  :-)))))Yesterday I was at Costco buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Necco, the Wonder Dog, which weighs 191 lbs. I was in the check-out line when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog.What did she think I had an elephant?So because I'm retired and have little to do,on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again.I added that I probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it works is, to load your jacket pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry.The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.)Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stopped to Pee on a Fire Hydrant and a car hit me,
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard.
Costco won't let me shop there anymore.Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the World to think of crazy things to say.Forward this (especially) to all your retired friends...it will be their laugh for the day! DOGS


You are crippled wheelschaired bullshiter !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 23, 2021, 04:42:14 AM

You are cripled wheelschaired bullshiter !.
       
               it's called a sense of humor get one junior   :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 24, 2021, 09:52:34 AM
       https://bipartisanreport.com/2021/07/27/officers-who-defended-capitol-crush-gop-during-opening-statement/?fbclid=IwAR2IA4YAIUoHNsMWKo34i71Zv9sawCBwRnBovdxOWml7rumaPuMVXpsJqgc
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 27, 2021, 06:58:43 AM
     94 pages short of the 200 goal. well, it was fun while it lasted.  ::) 8) ??? ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on July 27, 2021, 06:43:16 PM
     94 pages short of the 200 goal. well, it was fun while it lasted.  ::) 8) ??? ;D :D :)
We could get to 200 if we move all of your liberal posts to this thread.... ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on July 28, 2021, 05:45:03 AM
We could get to 200 if we move all of your liberal posts to this thread.... ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D then we're talking into the 1000 page category.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 28, 2021, 08:25:18 PM
     94 pages short of the 200 goal. well, it was fun while it lasted.  ::) 8) ??? ;D :D :)

Go to ABBA, The Door's music is just too brutal 4 you !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 29, 2021, 02:49:12 AM
That aint Straw-Bob...

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 29, 2021, 04:27:24 AM
That aint Straw-Bob...
:D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2021, 07:27:12 PM
Can't let this thread die...as much as I thought it wasn't possible, he's a bigger fucking idiot and troll than expected
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on August 10, 2021, 07:28:57 PM
That aint Straw-Bob...

Who found Matt C?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2021, 07:29:52 PM
Can't let this thread die...as much as I thought it wasn't possible, he's a bigger fucking idiot and troll than expected

Why so cranky you whiny little bitch

Did you get your period?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2021, 07:36:41 PM
Why so cranky you whiny little bitch

Did you get your period?

Stay behind your keyboard, Karl. You and Lurker are safe there
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 11, 2021, 06:42:32 AM
   
     200 still a possibility. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 11, 2021, 06:53:11 AM
     just some filler, carry on. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 11, 2021, 07:14:08 AM
Stay behind your keyboard, Karl. You and Lurker are safe there

Stay in your delusional La La Land midget.  Facts and reality won't get you there.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: B_B_C on August 11, 2021, 07:16:14 AM
That aint Straw-Bob...
s'wath happens when you can open bottle caps
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 07:34:43 AM
Stay in your delusional La La Land midget.  Facts and reality won't get you there.

Like I said
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 11, 2021, 12:41:33 PM
Like I said

Like you were told.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 11, 2021, 03:25:00 PM
Stay in your delusional La La Land midget.  Facts and reality won't get you there.


Hey ANTIFA BoB, you should report him to George Soros  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 05:13:11 PM
Stay behind your keyboard, Karl. You and Lurker are safe there

Feeling any better today Nancy

Have your cramps gone away yet?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 17, 2021, 07:10:31 PM
Feeling any better today Nancy

Have your cramps gone away yet?

Time for you to go, Karl
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 18, 2021, 10:22:25 AM
       
    still going for 200 pages here's  some filler
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 18, 2021, 10:58:52 AM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 18, 2021, 11:31:43 AM


Why don’t you stop hijacking this thread. It’s like the only time you post. You can protect that loser all you want the fact will still remain he’s a Marxist loser
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 18, 2021, 01:53:45 PM
    this is good stuff.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 18, 2021, 03:00:24 PM
Why don’t you stop hijacking this thread. It’s like the only time you post. You can protect that loser all you want the fact will still remain he’s a Marxist loser


CRIPPLED funk is so desperate to save The Demented 1 !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 19, 2021, 04:53:12 AM

CRIPPLED funk is so desperate to save The Demented 1 !.
         
                                 not really, he can defend himself pretty well on his own. I'm just adding volume to coach's thread to help keep it alive.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 19, 2021, 04:56:16 AM

CRIPPLED funk is so desperate to save The Demented 1 !.
    also fun fact for you when craig monson smacked the future leader of the Crips gang for interrupting one of his workouts. the guy had a bad leg  and he told him get out of here you Crip. ::) ::) ::) thus the origin of the name.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 19, 2021, 12:01:13 PM
    also fun fact for you when craig monson smacked the future leader of the Crips gang for interrupting one of his workouts. the guy had a bad leg  and he told him get out of here you Crip. ::) ::) ::) thus the origin of the name.


Looks like U a pro Talibani !.
 
(I never ever watched yours videos  :-\)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on August 19, 2021, 01:06:34 PM

Looks like U a pro Talibani !.
 
(I never ever watched yours videos  :-\)
     then why even bother replying ??? ??? ??? ??? but if it makes you happy enjoy...I'm not one to spoil your fun. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 19, 2021, 03:17:41 PM
.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 20, 2021, 04:56:01 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No one cares dumbass

I give you permission to stop thinking me

Give it a try...if you can


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on August 20, 2021, 06:28:46 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No one cares dumbass

I give you permission to stop thinking me

Give it a try...if you can
Is this the email Trump sent you ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 20, 2021, 06:33:01 PM



THE LIAR IN CHIEF. EVEN ABC IS DONE WITH IT.

IMAGINE VOTING FOR IT?  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 21, 2021, 05:02:01 PM
Is this the email Trump sent you ???

 ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2021, 05:38:48 PM



THE LIAR IN CHIEF. EVEN ABC IS DONE WITH IT.

IMAGINE VOTING FOR IT?  ;D

Straw won’t address
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 21, 2021, 06:04:59 PM
Is this the email Trump sent you ???

I wasn't aware that THE TRAITOR read this site

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 21, 2021, 06:06:27 PM
Straw won’t address

Address it yourself if you care so much

I've already said at least a few times that Biden fucked up and he owns this

When you have any you idiots ever said that about one your guys
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on August 21, 2021, 06:27:45 PM
Address it yourself if you care so much

I've already said at least a few times that Biden fucked up and he owns this

When you have any you idiots ever said that about one your guys

(http://i.postimg.cc/WpF9bv1h/Breathtaking.jpg)

Your smelestial mates await!   We all know(se) you cannot wait for the ultimate NOSEDOWN with Utah's "Chin Twiins", Probesia and Miatardle Probooscusovia!!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on August 21, 2021, 06:31:58 PM
(http://i.postimg.cc/WpF9bv1h/Breathtaking.jpg)[/img]

Your smelestial mates await!   We all know(se) you cannot wait for the ultimate NOSEDOWN with Utah's "Chin Twiins", Probesia and Miatardle Probooscusovia!!

Go find someone else to obsess over you fucking queer
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on August 21, 2021, 06:33:51 PM
I wasn't aware that THE TRAITOR read this site
I wasn't talking about Joe Bitem arming the Taliban. ::)

Go find someone else to obsess over you fucking queer
Trumps second email to you?^^ :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 21, 2021, 08:14:01 PM
(http://i.postimg.cc/WpF9bv1h/Breathtaking.jpg)

Your smelestial mates await!   We all know(se) you cannot wait for the ultimate NOSEDOWN with Utah's "Chin Twiins", Probesia and Miatardle Probooscusovia!!

Scotty , please stop making fun of BoB Straw 'girlz'  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 09:49:12 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/09/01/matt-gaetz-exonerated-after-man-charged-with-extortion-n2595102?fbclid=IwAR2ZS7YVp3wWFwxQpKKQJKbEQ8aKu--cnBLAK1tq_sPFRtoDwzHpK9IVoHM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 11:17:21 AM
Libs are in control, things should be going well right? 

Next on the menu, handing Taiwan over to China.  ::)



(https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/Screenshot%202021-09-01%20at%2004-26-03%20Image-1%20%284%29%20-%20YonColonleTextAmCitsRedacted%20pdf.png?itok=WXpRF3oJ)


(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/biden%20hands%20face.PNG?itok=EJN8a3Up)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 01, 2021, 11:28:26 AM


Next on the menu, handing Taiwan over to China.  ::)


If China invades Taiwan, in your opinion, should the US declare war on China? Would you go fight?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
As Biden said in this speech we gave all US Citizens ample time (starting in March) to get out of Afghanistan if they wanted to leave.



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tommywishbone on September 01, 2021, 11:37:43 AM
(http://i.postimg.cc/WpF9bv1h/Breathtaking.jpg)

Your smelestial mates await!   We all know(se) you cannot wait for the ultimate NOSEDOWN with Utah's "Chin Twiins", Probesia and Miatardle Probooscusovia!!

Just made me drop my fork and spill my drink.  Damn you!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 11:48:03 AM
If China invades Taiwan, in your opinion, should the US declare war on China? Would you go fight?



It would not be a ground war, not that there will be one. There is no will in Xiden to displease the masters in China.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 11:51:42 AM
As Biden said in this speech we gave all US Citizens ample time (starting in March) to get out of Afghanistan if they wanted to leave.





Constant projection of weakness, somebody else's fault or responsibility, etc.

Absolute joke POTUS GTFO.

Taiwan is no different than Obama telegraphing Crimea to Russia.

So much is made in Taiwan it would make your head spin - to think that even more production control that we have would just be gone like that.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: deadz on September 01, 2021, 11:57:41 AM
Address it yourself if you care so much

I've already said at least a few times that Biden fucked up and he owns this

When you have any you idiots ever said that about one your guys
Tell getbig ONE decision Biden got right.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 01, 2021, 11:58:01 AM


It would not be a ground war, not that there will be one. There is no will in Xiden to displease the masters in China.

But what do you think should be done in case China invades Taiwan? Would you bomb them from afar?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2021, 11:58:34 AM
If China invades Taiwan, in your opinion, should the US declare war on China? Would you go fight?

This administration would never declare war on China or any other communist country they are too far in bed with all of them especially China. That’s no exaggeration
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: deadz on September 01, 2021, 12:00:12 PM
This administration would never declare war on China or any other communist country they are too far in bed with all of them especially China. That’s no exaggeration
China pays Biden’s bills. No doubt about it. We’ll documented that he and his low life family are paid by China.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 01, 2021, 12:10:15 PM
This administration would never declare war on China or any other communist country they are too far in bed with all of them especially China. That’s no exaggeration

But I'm asking what you think should be done?

As you've said yourself the US is now a communist country, most republican politicians are communists so what does it matter. You think Trump would've bombed China if they invaded Taiwan? You think there would be support for a major war among the citizens for something like this? I don't think so.

I don't think China is America's problem. Neocons are a much bigger problem.

China pays Biden’s bills. No doubt about it. We’ll documented that he and his low life family are paid by China.

You think Biden can't pay his bills without China? He might end up on the street if not? He knows he has months to live, I don't think he is concerned with numbers in his bank account at this point.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 12:15:00 PM


You think Biden can't pay his bills without China? He might end up on the street if not? He knows he has months to live, I don't think he is concerned with numbers in his bank account at this point.



He's trying to keep the red dots off his entire family would be my guess. He owes the piper well as most national level politicians do.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: deadz on September 01, 2021, 12:15:15 PM
But I'm asking what you think should be done?

As you've said yourself the US is now a communist country, most republican politicians are communists so what does it matter. You think Trump would've bombed China if they invaded Taiwan? You think there would be support for a major war among the citizens for something like this? I don't think so.

I don't think China is America's problem. Neocons are a much bigger problem.

You think Biden can't pay his bills without China? He might end up on the street if not? He knows he has months to live, I don't think he is concerned with numbers in his bank account at this point.
Its we’ll documented that the Biden’s received millions from China. Do your research before questioning me.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 12:19:36 PM
But what do you think should be done in case China invades Taiwan? Would you bomb them from afar?


It's 60 years of poor policy, what do I have to do with it? Is fighting a war in China's backyard tactically a good idea or probably even winnable...no.

You can't put sanctions on China when they make everything. Politicians made stupid and corrupt deals for decades, just as Trump said.

The USA is being dismantled as a superpower from inside. We have demonstrably weak leaders not able to keep their word on basic American stuff, we look to be retarded on purpose.

Remember, Biden said China's not even a rival of ours.  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 12:24:49 PM
Its we’ll documented that the Biden’s received millions from China. Do your research before questioning me.

great job not providing a link to the documentation

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 01, 2021, 12:38:38 PM
Its we’ll documented that the Biden’s received millions from China. Do your research before questioning me.

He wants for nothing. Millions in his bank account mean nothing as far as changing his life. Absolutely nothing. He is a prisoner to his office. I think money is a poor explanation as far as motivation to become president. Trump was also accused of enriching himself but if I had been him pre-president no way would I have wanted that job. Couldn't do shit as far as carnal pleasures. The motivation us aomething else, leaving their name in history, ego.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 01, 2021, 12:41:14 PM



The USA is being dismantled as a superpower from inside. We have demonstrably weak leaders not able to keep their word on basic American stuff, we look to be retarded on purpose.

Remember, Biden said China's not even a rival of ours.  ::)

The enemy is within. Fighting China seems ridiculous when the US has been dismantled from the inside, as you say. Start a civil war.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 01, 2021, 01:09:38 PM
Cmon man, I dont know my face-diaper from my ass-diaper man, both are filled with the shit I spew man, like ole Cornpop man, Cmon???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 01, 2021, 01:15:12 PM
 
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 01, 2021, 03:25:58 PM
The enemy is within. Fighting China seems ridiculous when the US has been dismantled from the inside, as you say. Start a civil war.


Now China will have access to all American military gear in Afghanistan !.

Guess WHY !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 01, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Tell getbig ONE decision Biden got right.

Carrying out Trumps deal with the Taliban to get the fuck out of Afghanistan.  It is going to be looked upon as a GREAT success for both presidents when the history books are written.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 01, 2021, 06:24:23 PM
Carrying out Trumps deal with the Taliban to get the fuck out of Afghanistan.  It is going to be looked upon as a GREAT success for both presidents when the history books are written.

Trump would have never left like Biden did. Classic example of politicians telling the military how to do their job. It was weapons and people out then lastly the military. Biden tried to get the military out first. Insanity. Biden's puppet masters thought they would be throwing parades for Biden but it blew up in their face. Don't think China and Russia haven't noticed how bad this was handled.  Bagram should have been kept until the weapons and friendlies  were out of there.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 01, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
Okay folks I know you all hate my cut and paste tactics because you have not hesitated to make an issue of it. That's cool.

Because I did not want you all to think this was just my opinion but actually something that the (liberal) Oregonian published today, I am pasting part of the article on Getbig.

This is an Oregonian reprint from the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON — Addressing the nation, a defensive President Joe Biden on Tuesday called the U.S. military airlift to extract more than 120,000 Afghans, Americans and other allies to end a 20 year war an “extraordinary success,” though more than 100 Americans and thousands of Afghans looking to leave remain.

A lot of people, liberals included, question Biden's decision to end the war in Afghanistan in the manner that he did. It is pretty clear from the 'tone' of this article that the author was slamming Biden's decision, his defensiveness and his self assessment. If he orchestrated an extraordinarily successful extradition of American troops from what is now Taliban territory....a lot of folks aren't in agreement. Furthermore, it is far too soon to assess its successfulness. Maybe sometime in the future we can look back and say, yeah Biden made the right move, or maybe this little venture will go down in history like Bushes' comment about 'weapons of mass destruction' to justify invading Iraq. 

In March 2003, U.S. forces invaded Iraq vowing to destroy Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and end the dictatorial rule of Saddam Hussein. When WMD intelligence proved illusory and a violent insurgency arose, the war lost public support.

Warning to U.S. Presidents, be careful of what you say because it may come back to haunt you.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 01, 2021, 07:15:05 PM
Trump would have never left like Biden did. Classic example of politicians telling the military how to do their job. It was weapons and people out then lastly the military. Biden tried to get the military out first. Insanity. Biden's puppet masters thought they would be throwing parades for Biden but it blew up in their face. Don't think China and Russia haven't noticed how bad this was handled.  Bagram should have been kept until the weapons and friendlies  were out of there.

You're probably right.  He signed a deal and probably would have re-negged and then the Taliban would have started ambushing our troops, the puppet Afghan govt, etc. etc.  We'd more than likely be looking at more than 13 perished soldiers.  13 it too many and I lament the loss of any life but credit where due, Trump signed the deal.  Biden executed it. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2021, 08:04:26 PM
You're probably right.  He signed a deal and probably would have re-negged and then the Taliban would have started ambushing our troops, the puppet Afghan govt, etc. etc.  We'd more than likely be looking at more than 13 perished soldiers.  13 it too many and I lament the loss of any life but credit where due, Trump signed the deal.  Biden executed it.


TDS total takeover.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 01, 2021, 09:15:22 PM

TDS total takeover.

When that's all you've got, play out the strings.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 02, 2021, 08:35:08 AM
Trump would have never left like Biden did. Classic example of politicians telling the military how to do their job. It was weapons and people out then lastly the military. Biden tried to get the military out first. Insanity. Biden's puppet masters thought they would be throwing parades for Biden but it blew up in their face. Don't think China and Russia haven't noticed how bad this was handled.  Bagram should have been kept until the weapons and friendlies  were out of there.

I watched the Biden presser where he said that he consulted with all the generals on the ground as to the best pulling-out strategy. Do you think he actually went against their advices?
I haven't followed this extremely closely so I don't know if this has been debated in the press etc.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 02, 2021, 09:16:03 AM
I watched the Biden presser where he said that he consulted with all the generals on the ground as to the best pulling-out strategy. Do you think he actually went against their advices?
I haven't followed this extremely closely so I don't know if this has been debated in the press etc.

Last time he messed up a pulling-out strategy, he failed then as well and crated a major fukk-up called "Hunter".
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 02, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
lol

How dare black guys call Obozo "The worst"!!  ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 04, 2021, 10:30:43 AM
Jimmy Carter lived long enough to see his successor as the worst. In only a matter of months Biden has become the world symbol of aged incompetence for the next 100 years.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 04, 2021, 11:05:01 AM
Jimmy Carter lived long enough to see his successor as the worst. In only a matter of months Biden has become the world symbol of aged incompetence for the next 100 years.

Ronald Reagan, one of the most liked presidents of all time was Jimmy Carter's successor. The next two presidents who came after Reagan had some good moments and some bad ones.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 04, 2021, 11:10:53 AM
Jimmy Carter lived long enough to see his successor as the worst. In only a matter of months Biden has become the world symbol of aged incompetence for the next 100 years.

If Biden's approval rating drops any lower he is in danger of hitting THE TRAITORS all time highs
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 04, 2021, 12:48:03 PM
You're probably right.  He signed a deal and probably would have re-negged and then the Taliban would have started ambushing our troops, the puppet Afghan govt, etc. etc.  We'd more than likely be looking at more than 13 perished soldiers.  13 it too many and I lament the loss of any life but credit where due, Trump signed the deal.  Biden executed it.
Links?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
If Biden's approval rating drops any lower he is in danger of hitting THE TRAITORS all time highs

Still don’t know the definition of traitor yet? Let me help you...and we can literally go through 50 years of him in Washington


https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/29/report-taliban-offered-biden-control-of-kabul-but-he-declined/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/markwayne-mullin-afghanistan-us-citizens-biden-lying
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 04, 2021, 12:56:22 PM
If Biden's approval rating drops any lower he is in danger of hitting THE TRAITORS all time highs


THE DEMENTED TRAITOR gave guns to muslim Talibans ..................
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 12:57:13 PM

THE DEMENTED TRAITOR gave guns to muslim Talibans ..................


$85billion worth
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: deadz on September 04, 2021, 01:25:12 PM
If Biden's approval rating drops any lower he is in danger of hitting THE TRAITORS all time highs
Biden is unquestionably the WORST President in HISTORY.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 04, 2021, 04:56:09 PM
Still don’t know the definition of traitor yet? Let me help you...and we can literally go through 50 years of him in Washington


https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/29/report-taliban-offered-biden-control-of-kabul-but-he-declined/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/markwayne-mullin-afghanistan-us-citizens-biden-lying

Ive been thinking it for a while, but now I know Straw is just trolling everyone.
There's no way he believes anything about what he actually posts. It would be nearly impossible.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 04, 2021, 05:23:36 PM

$85billion worth

He could easily give up Guntanamo Bay naval base to Cubanos  ::)
 
Cubans would love to get some free gear too !
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 07:31:41 PM
Ive been thinking it for a while, but now I know Straw is just trolling everyone.
There's no way he believes anything about what he actually posts. It would be nearly impossible.

He has never in all these years given any indication that he doesn’t believe anything he posts
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 04, 2021, 08:17:43 PM
If Biden's approval rating drops any lower he is in danger of hitting THE TRAITORS all time highs


I doubt even you could answer an anonymous poll about Biden positively. There's simply nothing positive of note unless you are completely on welfare.

Everyone that voted Biden now understands they threw the country in the toilet because of mean tweets.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 04, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Conservative News Viewers More Accurately Estimate COVID-19 Death Risk
Rasmussen Reports ^ | September 3, 2021 | Staff
Posted on 9/4/2021, 11:24:51 PM by CheshireTheCat

....The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 30% of American Adults correctly estimate the rate as being less than 2%, while 20% believe the rate to be between 2% and 5%. Seventeen percent (17%) estimate the mortality rate to be in the 5%-10% range and 19% believe the rate is more than 10%. Another 14% say they’re not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

More viewers of Newsmax (40%) and Fox News (34%) correctly estimated the COVID-19 mortality rate than viewers of CNN (22%) or MSNBC (24%). Twenty-one percent (21%) of One America News (OAN) viewers correctly estimated the coronavirus mortality rate. Among Americans who say they don’t watch cable news at all, 38% correctly estimated the mortality rate as less than 2%.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe public health officials are lying about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. That’s up from 32% in early July. Forty-four percent (44%) now don’t believe officials are lying about vaccine safety, but 19% are not sure....

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2021, 12:42:36 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 12:54:01 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.

Interesting. Essentially, you are telling the mods that you are holding this tread hostage which Stawman proliferates with his liberal leaning posts and which facilitate the perfect springboard for your opposing conservative views. It is kind of like you are shooting yourself in the foot. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 16, 2021, 12:54:57 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 12:56:13 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.

109 pages and you're still whining

How long does your menses last ?

It's seems you're always on the rag
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 01:01:00 PM
109 pages and you're still whining

How long does your menses last ?

It's seems you're always on the rag


"a menstruating person" as AOC would say.

Post something positive about Biden or answer who you think shuts his mic off?






Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:03:10 PM
Conservative News Viewers More Accurately Estimate COVID-19 Death Risk
Rasmussen Reports ^ | September 3, 2021 | Staff
Posted on 9/4/2021, 11:24:51 PM by CheshireTheCat

....The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 30% of American Adults correctly estimate the rate as being less than 2%, while 20% believe the rate to be between 2% and 5%. Seventeen percent (17%) estimate the mortality rate to be in the 5%-10% range and 19% believe the rate is more than 10%. Another 14% say they’re not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

More viewers of Newsmax (40%) and Fox News (34%) correctly estimated the COVID-19 mortality rate than viewers of CNN (22%) or MSNBC (24%). Twenty-one percent (21%) of One America News (OAN) viewers correctly estimated the coronavirus mortality rate. Among Americans who say they don’t watch cable news at all, 38% correctly estimated the mortality rate as less than 2%.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe public health officials are lying about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. That’s up from 32% in early July. Forty-four percent (44%) now don’t believe officials are lying about vaccine safety, but 19% are not sure....

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...

If you work at Fox News you have to either be vaccinated or be TESTED DAILY

Maybe Biden should adopt Fox's New's protocol and then when Tucker, Sean an all the other idiots start whining about it Biden can remind them he got the idea from their employer
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 16, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
If you work at Fox News you have to either be vaccinated or be TESTED DAILY

Maybe Biden should adopt Fox's New's protocol and then when Tucker, Sean an all the other idiots start whining about it Biden can remind them he got the idea from their employer

Joes not that clever.
(Not that they are either),but he would just shit his diaper, jam a sugar-cone in his rectum, brush his anus with a toothbrush, while molesting a school-girl.

 ::)

Biden->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Down Syndrome Kids
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:20:54 PM

"a menstruating person" as AOC would say.

Post something positive about Biden or answer who you think shuts his mic off?




Thanks for the correction
I should have referred to the phony "coach" as a menstruating person

No one shuts of his mic

That's just another right wing lie that you and other morons apparently fell for.

Next time you want to post another right wing lie you can check with me first so you don't embarrass yourself

You're welcome

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 16, 2021, 01:21:53 PM
Joes not that clever.
(Not that they are either),but he would just shit his diaper, jam a sugar-cone in his rectum, brush his anus with a toothbrush, while molesting a school-girl.

 ::)

Biden->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Down Syndrome Kids
   how dare you talk about coach that way.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:22:33 PM
Joes not that clever.
(Not that they are either),but he would just shit his diaper, jam a sugar-cone in his rectum, brush his anus with a toothbrush, while molesting a school-girl.

 ::)

Biden->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Down Syndrome Kids

how specific

sounds like you're speaking from your own personal experience
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 01:29:28 PM
Joke all you want but every dem knows the truth. The more Biden speaks the worse it gets.

The press went hard on Reagan when he was slipping in his last 2 years....it was never like this.

This is like the emperor's new clothes where everyone is playing along that it's not that bad.

Even Hillary or Bernie would be better because at least you'd have some warning as to what fuckery was going on. Biden experiences groundhog day every morning when they try to get him out there and do something, anything that is useful.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:33:08 PM
Joke all you want but every dem knows the truth. The more Biden speaks the worse it gets.

The press went hard on Reagan when he was slipping in his last 2 years....it was never like this.

This is like the emperor's new clothes where everyone is playing along that it's not that bad.

Even Hillary or Bernie would be better because at least you'd have some warning as to what fuckery was going on. Biden experiences groundhog day every morning when they try to get him out there and do something, anything that is useful.

You got punked

deal with it

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 01:37:45 PM
You got punked

deal with it


By Biden being office? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Hypertrophy on September 16, 2021, 01:39:54 PM
You got punked

deal with it


Oh fuck off, punk bitch.


I don't mean that personally. I mean for your entire species, lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 16, 2021, 01:47:28 PM
how specific

sounds like you're speaking from your own personal experience

 ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:50:21 PM

By Biden being office? Absolutely.

Nope that's called Democracy

If you don't like it maybe you can find some solace in the fact that even though the Senate is ostensibly divided 50/50 the Senate Republicans actually represent about 40 million LESS voters than the Senate Dems

So your party represents a minority of voters but still gets 50% representation in the Senate

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:51:41 PM

Oh fuck off, punk bitch.


I don't mean that personally. I mean for your entire species, lol

Don't get mad at me because you fell for a right wing lie

Maybe ask yourself why your side needs to lie so much

Is it intentional or are they just that stupid?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2021, 01:52:00 PM
Fucker needs to go….fuck him
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:58:18 PM
Fucker needs to go….fuck him

Hey phony "coach"

I give you permission to stop reading my posts

Give that a try and see if you feel any better
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 02:25:43 PM
Nope that's called Democracy

If you don't like it maybe you can find some solace in the fact that even though the Senate is ostensibly divided 50/50 the Senate Republicans actually represent about 40 million LESS voters than the Senate Dems

So your party represents a minority of voters but still gets 50% representation in the Senate



It isn't my party.

Not conservative enough.

Some people don't understand why the Framers did what they did, pretty much the issue of the day in any topic.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 02:48:43 PM


It isn't my party.

Not conservative enough.

Some people don't understand why the Framers did what they did, pretty much the issue of the day in any topic.

Not conservative enough for you ?
Maybe you'd fit in better in Afghanistan

There were only 13 states in 1776

They had no clue of the future size of the country

North and South Dakota didn't even exist in 1776
Combined they have ~ 1.6 million people and 4 Senators

California has 40 million people and 2 senators

Why should 1.6 million people have more representation in the Senate (which controls judicial nominations including obviously the Supreme Court) than a state like California, or Florida or Texas

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 16, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
https://www.tribdem.com/news/2-pennsylvania-men-charged-in-january-attack-on-us-capitol/article_57c70cd4-b5c6-5714-8ac7-539dda183819.html        meanwhile two more patriots are being charged for their part in the jan 6 insurrection hoax.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2021, 03:22:08 PM
Hey phony "coach"

I give you permission to stop reading my posts

Give that a try and see if you feel any better

And I give you permission for fuck off and not post in this thread…troll. Leave my country while you’re at it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 16, 2021, 03:39:10 PM
https://www.tribdem.com/news/2-pennsylvania-men-charged-in-january-attack-on-us-capitol/article_57c70cd4-b5c6-5714-8ac7-539dda183819.html        meanwhile two more patriots are being charged for their part in the jan 6 insurrection hoax.

But of course, prosecute those tardz, but deliver bricks to BLM destruction and let them destroy anything.
Hypocrites. Like law even means anything anymore...

Clown-world... The lot of 'em. If at least they were consistent, it might make some sense... But it doesnt..
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 16, 2021, 03:44:10 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.

I am in on this circle jerk thing too.  Don't forget about me.   ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 16, 2021, 03:44:48 PM
Then there's the violent thugs hey let out of jail only to rape, murder innocent folks.
Lets not forget the many thousands of Cartel and illegal criminals they are shuffling around the country.

But those unarmed thugs, who cops let in and were joking with, just terrible...
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: honest on September 16, 2021, 03:51:52 PM

It's 60 years of poor policy, what do I have to do with it? Is fighting a war in China's backyard tactically a good idea or probably even winnable...no.

You can't put sanctions on China when they make everything. Politicians made stupid and corrupt deals for decades, just as Trump said.

The USA is being dismantled as a superpower from inside. We have demonstrably weak leaders not able to keep their word on basic American stuff, we look to be retarded on purpose.

Remember, Biden said China's not even a rival of ours.  ::)

Totally agree with you, the opportunity to attempt any type of reverse was a second Trump term, and my views politically are central as more of a traditional republican voter than a trump man, but obviously the slight majority in the country that vote democrat are obviously supportive of the US stepping back globally and allowing China to become more dominant. Forget personalities democrat policy was always going to allow this shift to continue. You cannot compete with cheap labour and energy. Basically similar to where traditional communism couldn't co exist with capitalism, capitalism cannot co exist with Chinese type modern communism or socialism, they manipulate their currency, their labor markets are not subject to unions, minimum wage etc, and their climate concessions just give them the perfect platform over the next twenty years to leave the capitalist west and the US behind. To counter it the west is becoming more socialist, would be fascinating to see what Gorbachev would think of this reversal when he presided over the decline of traditional communism.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 03:53:26 PM
And I give you permission for fuck off and not post in this thread…troll. Leave my country while you’re at it

This is OUR country

Yours, mine and every other citizen

I'll post wherever the fuck I want

Why don't you try to calm down a bit.

It's just a stupid message board

You're going to give yourself another stroke
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on September 16, 2021, 04:28:34 PM
Hey Straw, how 'bout them 49ers?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
This is OUR country

Yours, mine and every other citizen

I'll post wherever the fuck I want

Why don't you try to calm down a bit.

It's just a stupid message board

You're going to give yourself another stroke



Citizens? Haha, when did that start? You really don't know what the left doing, eh? You are not in the club and the plans aim to minimize everything you ever had or knew.


(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/09/16/PPHX/9a70c307-9386-4872-96f3-524839602ef9-border-tweet.JPG?width=660&height=524&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 16, 2021, 07:16:01 PM
I am in on this circle jerk thing too.  Don't forget about me.   ;D
Someone has to clean up. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 16, 2021, 07:28:32 PM


Citizens? Haha, when did that start? You really don't know what the left doing, eh? You are not in the club and the plans aim to minimize everything you ever had or knew.




Zombies invasion !.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on September 16, 2021, 07:46:02 PM


Citizens? Haha, when did that start? You really don't know what the left doing, eh? You are not in the club and the plans aim to minimize everything you ever had or knew.


(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/09/16/PPHX/9a70c307-9386-4872-96f3-524839602ef9-border-tweet.JPG?width=660&height=524&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

Straw and his littermates are not true Americans.  They are SHITIZENS of the Turd World.  FTN, brother.  FTN.


Hopefully they all Covid up or Kobe down.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 16, 2021, 07:49:25 PM
Someone has to clean up. :D

A "zinger" that would make Howard proud.  PIP.   ;)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 16, 2021, 07:59:06 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.

What a pussy you are.  Too bad you get your ass handed to you daily by him and others.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Hmmm, Strawman getting bludgeoned and you just pop up.

(https://c.tenor.com/oxpouynXyZ0AAAAM/walrus-interesting.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 16, 2021, 08:02:06 PM
And I give you permission for fuck off and not post in this thread…troll. Leave my country while you’re at it

If you don't like the country, the President and the fellow Americans that elected him, why don't you take your crybaby ass somewhere else?  They have booster seats on flights.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 16, 2021, 08:03:08 PM
Hmmm, Strawman getting bludgeoned and you just pop up.

(https://c.tenor.com/oxpouynXyZ0AAAAM/walrus-interesting.gif)

Hmm... Straw handing out beat downs and you just pop up to receive yours.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2021, 10:39:41 PM
What a pussy you are.  Too bad you get your ass handed to you daily by him and others.

Fuckin’ hilarious. Hiding behind a keyboard then pop up when Karl starts posting talking shit….again, hiding behind a keyboard and I’m the pussy lmfao
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2021, 10:47:33 PM
If you don't like the country, the President and the fellow Americans that elected him, why don't you take your crybaby ass somewhere else?  They have booster seats on flights.

You’re the one voted that for him knowing his ties to China then having our servicemen and allies killed leaving them behind then AFTER that making deals with the Taliban…blood is you hands just as much as Biden because 1. You were stupid enough to vote for him and 2. I don’t see one post from you, Karl or Prime condemning any of it and then you put the cherry on top by not condemning Milley for admitting he let China know about some retarded plot he made up in his pea brain thinking Trump was going to attack.

This tells me people of your ilk would have no problem going against our country
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 04:49:01 AM
Fuckin’ hilarious. Hiding behind a keyboard then pop up when Karl starts posting talking shit….again, hiding behind a keyboard and I’m the pussy lmfao

A pussy.  A complete Trumptardian pussy.  You can't handle the daily ass beatings he hands you so you start a thread begging for the mods to ban him and then say you will keep at it until he is gone.

You can't counter a damn thing he says without lying or posting misinformation that is easily refuted.  Your stupid ass thinks it will be easier to live with your delusions once he is gone and unable to point out just how stupid you are. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 04:52:08 AM
You’re the one voted that for him knowing his ties to China then having our servicemen and allies killed leaving them behind then AFTER that making deals with the Taliban…blood is you hands just as much as Biden because 1. You were stupid enough to vote for him and 2. I don’t see one post from you, Karl or Prime condemning any of it and then you put the cherry on top by not condemning Milley for admitting he let China know about some retarded plot he made up in his pea brain thinking Trump was going to attack.

This tells me people of your ilk would have no problem going against our country

You better hope they don't.  Because if they do, you won't do a damn thing about it you little pussy except mass post on the internet whining about everything.  Leaving a "revolution" up to the likes of you and your brain washed, dead beat ilk would be the same thing as hiring emos to write get well cards.  It would be a failure with nothing happening but a lot of whining.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 06:49:07 AM
The coverups at the border continue. FAA grounds all drones that were looking at the 8,000 people I just posted on the last page....for "special security reasons".

This is not a normal govt we have. Libs cannot defend this. There is no transparency and as I said we are all playing along that Biden controls anything.


https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_9857.html
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2021, 09:31:08 AM
You better hope they don't.  Because if they do, you won't do a damn thing about it you little pussy except mass post on the internet whining about everything.  Leaving a "revolution" up to the likes of you and your brain washed, dead beat ilk would be the same thing as hiring emos to write get well cards.  It would be a failure with nothing happening but a lot of whining.

Bet me sissy boy
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2021, 09:48:26 AM
A pussy.  A complete Trumptardian pussy.  You can't handle the daily ass beatings he hands you so you start a thread begging for the mods to ban him and then say you will keep at it until he is gone.

You can't counter a damn thing he says without lying or posting misinformation that is easily refuted.  Your stupid ass thinks it will be easier to live with your delusions once he is gone and unable to point out just how stupid you are.

Sure…whatever you say. Like Strawman, just keep hiding behind you keyboard talking shit. Easily refuted…not by your leftist sources. Lol

But just keep hiding. Like I said, if anything happens it’s you that’ll be curled in the fetal position crying like a leftist bitch…count on it
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 17, 2021, 09:51:40 AM
   If you’re “searching for things on the Internet” or “watching YouTube videos” or “reading articles,” some say you aren’t “doing your own research” but merely “consuming content”—an activity as enlightening as fondling yourself while arguing with Chinese bots on Twitter.⁣

This plays well with the peanut gallery because, as Aldous Huxley noted, the opportunity to maltreat others with good conscience, to misbehave as a form of “righteous indignation,” is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.⁣

What is “research,” though?⁣

The hecklers will often say something like, “it’s skillfully reviewing every study you can find on the matter and determining the balance of the evidence.”⁣

So basically, unless you’re a trained scientist, you can't “do research” and come to good conclusions but only “consume content” and continue to be clueless. ⁣

Sorry, sweetie.⁣

Webster’s disagrees, though. It says research is “studious inquiry or examination” (with “studious” meaning “marked by or suggesting purposefulness or diligence”) and even “the collecting of information about a particular subject.”⁣

Ferreting around on the internet to find things to watch, read, and listen to is in fact “doing research,” then. The crux, however, is how you go about it. Are you doing good research? ⁣

And that requires more than just scientific literacy. ⁣

You have to understand the grammar of logic. You have to seek the strongest counterpoints to your preferred theories. It helps to be conversant in assorted mental models, philosophical razors, and cognitive forcing strategies. ⁣

Thus, there are many ways for science-minded folk and laypeople alike to do bad research—selection biases, confirmation biases, disconfirmation biases, conformity biases, selective skepticism, faulty generalization, the list yammers on. ⁣

To suggest, however, that only formally educated specialists can “do good research” is like suggesting that only porn (das)star(d)s can have a good tumble.⁣

So, a more accurate meme would state only that many people aren’t good at research, but where’s the fun in that? No righteous indignation. No psychological luxury. No moral treat.    MAYBE IT'S TIME WE ALL GROW UP.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 10:36:34 AM


Citizens? Haha, when did that start? You really don't know what the left doing, eh? You are not in the club and the plans aim to minimize everything you ever had or knew.


(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/09/16/PPHX/9a70c307-9386-4872-96f3-524839602ef9-border-tweet.JPG?width=660&height=524&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

Is English your first language
I have no idea what you're rambling about but it sounds like you know some big secret so why don't you share it here.  Don't worry, we won't tell anyone
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 10:39:30 AM
Straw and his littermates are not true Americans.  They are SHITIZENS of the Turd World.  FTN, brother.  FTN.


Hopefully they all Covid up or Kobe down.

You're just jealous because all those Mexican can do something that you can't do.....WALK.

My taxes pay for your state subsidized Depends so be nice to your nurse when she comes to change your diaper
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 11:56:18 AM
Is English your first language
I have no idea what you're rambling about but it sounds like you know some big secret so why don't you share it here.  Don't worry, we won't tell anyone


Non-answer/deflection...a poor one at that. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears while yelling you can't hear.

So...defend having an open border. Go ahead. While you are at it defend making it so we can't see how many people are involved by decree.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
You're just jealous because all those Mexican can do something that you can't do.....WALK.

My taxes pay for your state subsidized Depends so be nice to your nurse when she comes to change your diaper


Well, I just decided to vote.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 12:00:01 PM

Non-answer/deflection...a poor one at that. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears while yelling you can't hear.

So...defend having an open border. Go ahead. While you are at it defend making it so we can't see how many people are involved by decree.

what is there to answer to?

those people don't vote in our elections

No matter how much you idiots imagine that they do ...they still don't

Now tell us the big secret of the "club" you imagine exists
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 12:05:18 PM
what is there to answer to?

those people don't vote in our elections

No matter how much you idiots imagine that they do ...they still don't

Now tell us the big secret of the "club" you imagine exists


You can't be that devoid of logic.

Same logic as the old woman in the neighborhood that feeds the stray cats and is shocked there are more and more cats as time goes on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2021, 12:29:27 PM
Hey phony "coach"

I give you permission to stop reading my posts

Give that a try and see if you feel any better

Don't be cruel....you're all he's got.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 12:38:35 PM
Sure…whatever you say. Like Strawman, just keep hiding behind you keyboard talking shit. Easily refuted…not by your leftist sources. Lol

But just keep hiding. Like I said, if anything happens it’s you that’ll be curled in the fetal position crying like a leftist bitch…count on it

You will do nothing more than whine on the internet.  Post your little navarroreport and then dodge and deflect when it is debunked.  You have been doing it since Obama and everyone knows it.   You act we all haven't seen you lies before.

If shit went down in this country your little ass would do nothing but post about it on the internet. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 12:41:13 PM
Don't be cruel....you're all he's got.

For real.  Poor coachy is like Rudy, Kraken, My Pillow, Lin Wood and Melissa Carone all rolled into one.

I swear he must dip his tampon in soy every morning before logging onto the internet.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 12:50:17 PM

You can't be that devoid of logic.

Same logic as the old woman in the neighborhood that feeds the stray cats and is shocked there are more and more cats as time goes on.

you were saying


Non-answer/deflection...a poor one at that. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears while yelling you can't hear.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 12:51:37 PM
Don't be cruel....you're all he's got.

Don't you think he'd feel better if he just didn't read my posts

He's the only person here who seems to not be able to handle the usual "back and forth" shit talking on this board

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
You will do nothing more than whine on the internet.  Post your little navarroreport and then dodge and deflect when it is debunked.  You have been doing it since Obama and everyone knows it.   You act we all haven't seen you lies before.

If shit went down in this country your little ass would do nothing but post about it on the internet.

And you’ll do nothing but hide
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 02:44:40 PM
And you’ll do nothing but hide

As opposed to waging an embarrassing war on the internet where every post back fires like you do?    ::)

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 17, 2021, 03:21:42 PM
A pussy.  A complete Trumptardian pussy.  You can't handle the daily ass beatings he hands you so you start a thread begging for the mods to ban him and then say you will keep at it until he is gone.

You can't counter a damn thing he says without lying or posting misinformation that is easily refuted.  Your stupid ass thinks it will be easier to live with your delusions once he is gone and unable to point out just how stupid you are.


BoB, are U gonna SMASH Mr.Coach @ Olympia '21 or NOT !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 04:41:55 PM
you were saying


This, again... is not a response or defense of policy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 17, 2021, 04:56:57 PM

This, again... is not a response or defense of policy.

Below is my my post to which you responded with the photo from the border

What point were you trying to make

None of those people in the photo are US  citizens which is what my post was to the phony "coach"

So what point were you trying to make again?

This is OUR country

Yours, mine and every other citizen

I'll post wherever the fuck I want

Why don't you try to calm down a bit.

It's just a stupid message board

You're going to give yourself another stroke
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2021, 06:24:14 PM
What is the over/under odds on the pussy ass Trumpturds on here attending the rally tomorrow?

Or will they just sit on the internet posting?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 17, 2021, 06:30:08 PM
Below is my my post to which you responded with the photo from the border

What point were you trying to make

None of those people in the photo are US  citizens which is what my post was to the phony "coach"

So what point were you trying to make again?


The point is your tax dollars and votes are going toward destroying your own interests....fellow citizen.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on September 17, 2021, 06:41:10 PM
What is the over/under odds on the pussy ass Trumpturds on here attending the rally tomorrow?

Or will they just sit on the internet posting?

How does that go...For the sake of idiots such as yourself, I shall paraphrase.The greatest obstacle for a cuck (that would be such as you) to the acceptance of the truth is the illusion that your acceptance actually matters. 

When the societal shit hits the fan, you will be among the first flies taken out, of that I have no doubt. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 17, 2021, 06:58:24 PM


None of those people in the photo are US  citizens .....................



........around 8000 people on the photo & BoB knows them all ............ ::) ??? :P
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 17, 2021, 07:10:44 PM
A "zinger" that would make Howard proud.  PIP.   ;)
That was rude.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 17, 2021, 07:11:48 PM
If you don't like the country, the President and the fellow Americans that elected him, why don't you take your crybaby ass somewhere else?  They have booster seats on flights.
Says the bleeding cunt that cried for 5 years about Trump. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on September 17, 2021, 07:14:03 PM
........around 8000 people on the photo & BoB knows them all ............ ::) ??? :P

And probably blows them all.  A fence is a wall of endless glory holes.  Perfect for demcucks.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 17, 2021, 07:22:55 PM
And probably blows them all.  A fence is a wall of endless glory holes.  Perfect for demcucks.

.......every 1 of the Central American crooks will get Joe Biden green card .........
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Princess L on September 17, 2021, 07:53:56 PM
Says the bleeding cunt that cried for 5 years about Trump. ::)

Still crying
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 17, 2021, 09:41:25 PM
Mods…do your research and start going through Strawman’s posts and see he’s nothing but a troll. This coward literally contributes nothing to this site, most of the members hate him except Lurker and Prime so you have that circle jerk. Time for this unabated communist to go…fuck him. I’ll keep this thread going until this f**ker is gone.

what a sick sick post. Makes me vomit thinking this guy is afforded the same voting rights I have
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2021, 11:08:10 PM
what a sick sick post. Makes me vomit thinking this guy is afforded the same voting rights I have

You voted Biden, right?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2021, 11:28:25 PM
You voted Biden, right?

Yes.  Him, me, Straw, Lurk, Prime and only about 81 million other patriotic Americans!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: The Scott on September 18, 2021, 04:43:50 AM
what a sick sick post. Makes me vomit thinking this guy is afforded the same voting rights I have

Oh puhleeeeeze...Were you wearing your "Home of the Freak and Land of the SoooOOOoOOooOOoOoooo Buhrave" T-Shirt when you typed that crap?  Covid up or Kobe down, ace.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 08:31:26 AM
Yes.  Him, me, Straw, Lurk, Prime and only about 81 other patriotic Americans!

Fixed
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 08:35:54 AM
Yes.  Him, me, Straw, Lurk, Prime and only about 81 million other patriotic Americans!

Being warned before the election that if he won communism would be coming then voting for it is hardly patriotic unless you think communism is patriotic
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2021, 08:39:49 AM
what a sick sick post. Makes me vomit thinking this guy is afforded the same voting rights I have
Of coursse, you're a slave to the system, a useful idiot. One of the "jUsT dOiNG oUr JobZ" type of cops. ::) In reality the rest of us are ashamed that people like you and straw have the same rights as the rest of us normal Americans.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
What is the over/under odds on the pussy ass Trumpturds on here attending the rally tomorrow?

Or will they just sit on the internet posting?

Seems the odds were about 3%.

A trickle of a few dozen protesters, including the right-wing group the Three Percenters carried the group's signature flag. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg/1200px-Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg.png)

Searched the video for signs of Coach being there....didn't see him. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 11:22:14 AM
How does that go...For the sake of idiots such as yourself, I shall paraphrase.The greatest obstacle for a cuck (that would be such as you) to the acceptance of the truth is the illusion that your acceptance actually matters. 

When the societal shit hits the fan, you will be among the first flies taken out, of that I have no doubt.

Instead of this pseudo intellectual gibberish you rant off with, we will just chalk you up as a pussy ass who is staying at home. 

Not much you could do anyway to overcome those steps at the Capital.  Hell you can’t even overcome waxed floor or wet sidewalks.  Good thing the nursing home has wifi. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
Says the bleeding cunt that cried for 5 years about Trump. ::)

How does laughing at equate into crying?   

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 11:26:59 AM
Being warned before the election that if he won communism would be coming then voting for it is hardly patriotic unless you think communism is patriotic

Wasn’t that the same crying fest and excuse you used with Obama?  When you wasn’t crying over a fake birth certificate?    Clueless midget.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 11:28:46 AM
Seems the odds were about 3%.

A trickle of a few dozen protesters, including the right-wing group the Three Percenters carried the group's signature flag. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg/1200px-Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg.png)

Searched the video for signs of Coach being there....didn't see him. 




Hahahhahaha.   Let me guess.  The internet crybabies are saving their PTO, frequent flyer miles and sofa change for when the real revolution kicks off.    :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 18, 2021, 11:29:24 AM
Seems the odds were about 3%.

A trickle of a few dozen protesters, including the right-wing group the Three Percenters carried the group's signature flag. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg/1200px-Official_Three_Percent_Flag.svg.png)

Searched the video for signs of Coach being there....didn't see him. 

   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 11:37:05 AM
Wait..lemme guess. Another fake “insurrection”
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 11:47:12 AM
Naw… with over 600 arrested, CHARGED, some still in jail, some going back to jail, facing felony records (except those who already have them), and made into the laughing stock of the year….    The tards there now know that there won’t be any playing around with their dumb asses if they start shit again.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2021, 11:52:36 AM
Wait..lemme guess. Another fake failed “insurrection”

Fixed for accuracy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 18, 2021, 12:20:13 PM
Fixed for BJ accuracy.

Fixed 4 the facts.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 01:18:46 PM
What a joke

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/setup-press-police-undercover-agents-ray-bans-protesters-j-6-rally-washington-dc/
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 01:42:47 PM
Gateway pundit?    Hahahhahahaha.   Next to you the biggest laughing stock on the net.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 03:13:22 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 03:14:00 PM
Gateway pundit?    Hahahhahahaha.   Next to you the biggest laughing stock on the net.

Sure lol

Still waiting for the “insurrection” hahahahaha
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2021, 03:37:00 PM
There won't be an insurrection.  The retards didn't get it right last time and now they are too scared. 

Why aren't you there with that little crowd?  You would fit right in with the dingbats.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2021, 04:04:12 PM
There won't be an insurrection.  The retards didn't get it right last time and now they are too scared. 

Why aren't you there with that little crowd?  You would fit right in with the dingbats.
Look at how pathetic you are, so easily manipulated by the media. Weak and submissive to what your masters tell you. You are no man.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 04:14:24 PM
There won't be an insurrection.  The retards didn't get it right last time and now they are too scared. 

Why aren't you there with that little crowd?  You would fit right in with the dingbats.

Scared of what?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 18, 2021, 04:22:03 PM
Scared of what?


Coach, don't forget BoB Lurker-Straw will confront you @ Olympia weekend  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 04:32:03 PM

Coach, don't forget BoB Lurker-Straw will confront you @ Olympia weekend  ;D ;D ;D

I’ll be in Texas that week…but probably close to the half way point between HB and Florida.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 18, 2021, 06:39:14 PM
The invading hoarde is now 11,000 strong at the bridge in Texas.

Biden somewhere in Delaware sitting around like an elf on a shelf.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_k3ACnX0AYVqEZ?format=jpg&name=240x240)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 19, 2021, 07:11:56 AM
Now up to 15,000 at the bridge in TX...a majority are from Haiti. How does that work?

Didn't the Clintons fix Haiti with 100 million from their charity? Oh, right they closed that and kept it.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2021, 07:37:21 AM
Look at how pathetic you are, so easily manipulated by the media. Weak and submissive to what your masters tell you. You are no man.

Says the convict with shitty tats on his legs.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2021, 07:38:07 AM
Scared of what?

Getting your asses handed to you again like last time.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2021, 08:33:33 AM
Getting your asses handed to you again like last time.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2021, 11:38:14 AM
Says the convict with shitty tats on his legs.
Says the schmoe here to troll for cock.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 19, 2021, 11:43:20 AM
Libs running from my posts as fast as Prime drives by a bikini car wash.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 19, 2021, 01:36:15 PM
Libs running from my posts as fast as Prime drives by a bikini car wash.

They still have those?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 19, 2021, 01:57:08 PM


50 GB's hate BoB Straw-Lurker  :D

Jay III, must be jelaous of his "popularity"  :P
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 19, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
 
&t=10s
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 19, 2021, 02:15:25 PM
Hey funk41, WTF happened NO medals for U @ ParaOlympics in Tokyo  :P
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 19, 2021, 06:41:01 PM
They still have those?


Only in red states.  ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2021, 06:56:12 PM
Says the schmoe here to troll for cock.

Is that what you do?  Old prison habits?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 21, 2021, 09:21:50 PM



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 22, 2021, 07:45:48 AM
Hey funk41, WTF happened NO medals for U @ ParaOlympics in Tokyo  :P
   
     
                        naw I heard you won them all. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 22, 2021, 12:10:36 PM
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 22, 2021, 12:16:40 PM


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 22, 2021, 12:37:40 PM
 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2021, 12:41:21 PM
&t=631s

Cameo looked great
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
&t=631s

Cameo looked great

And she was probably the smartest person on that episode
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 22, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
Dems are going back to kids in cages in GITMO ....haha. Obama's favorite place.



"The Biden administration is looking for a private contractor to operate a migrant detention facility at the US naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, according to NBC News, citing government records. One requirement - some of the guards must speak Spanish and Haitian Creole, and the contractor itself needs to be able to build temporary housing facilities."



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-seeks-contractor-run-migrant-detention-facility-gitmo-guards-n1279886
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 25, 2021, 02:38:34 PM
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Socialism under the bridge , hey let's blame Mr.Trump for another 1 of Joes fuck ups !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 25, 2021, 05:52:02 PM
Libs wall of denial is a lot stronger than the border. Ideas, concepts and logic can't even get through.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 25, 2021, 09:44:22 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 08:16:41 AM
&t=5s   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 27, 2021, 08:27:32 AM
&t=5s


That's not a Haitian. Stay on topic.

12,000 more dumped on the streets in the USA per Biden Admin.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 08:28:57 AM

That's not a Haitian. Stay on topic.

12,000 more dumped on the streets in the USA per Biden Admin.
   
     
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2021, 10:23:35 AM
We should combine the straw and lurker threads.  Lol. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 10:38:15 AM
We should combine the straw and lurker threads.  Lol.
   
&t=877s    just doing my part to take it to 200.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 27, 2021, 11:05:27 AM
He looks natural now.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 12:11:22 PM
He looks natural now.
   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and pretty normal.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 12:12:11 PM
   
     and onward to 200 flame on.   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 12:22:38 PM
   
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 01:13:35 PM
The Amazing Transformation
of Bruce Randall
Randy Roach
Reprinted from Muscle, Smoke & Mirrors (Bloomington, IN: Author House Publishing, 2008): 562 pp.
Editors' Note: The following article is taken from a
book published two months ago by Randy Roach.
Called Muscle, Smoke & Mirrors, this fascinating
work is the result of six years of research and writing. A
full 562 pages in length, it is also the first of two volumes. Both volumes deal with the history of the relationship between bodybuilding/strength training and
nutrition. Roach has been an active participant in the
Iron Game for three decades, and for the past 20 years
he has operated a private training facility. A Canadian
living in Ontario, Roach has a background as a senior
!programmer in the fields of museum work and environmental engineering. The book may be ordered online
at:www. musclesmokeandmirrors. com.
In 1966, an 18-year-old Terry Strand responded
enthusiastically to a Chicago Sun Times advertisement
announcing the appearance of a former Mr. Universe at
a downtown Montgomery Ward department store.
Strand recalled very few people showing up to see and
listen to the physique star promote Billard barbells, a
company the muscleman represented. What impressed
the young Sh·and was not just the amazing physique of
the 1959 Mr. Universe, Bruce Randall, but the vety
demeanour and sincere nature of the athlete. Sh·and
reflected:
Bruce was much less interested in hawking
Wards' products than in evangelizing the
passersby as to the glory of a fit and toned
body. As an eighteen-year-old already with a
bad case of iron fever, I listened enthralled to
his impassioned pitch for health via the barbell
lifestyle. I squeezed in a question now and
then, asking him about protein, reps, sets ...
just the usual inquiries.
This photo of Bruce Randall was taken in the summer of
1955, when he weighed 387 pounds at a height of 6'2" and
his chest was measured at 61". Later that summer he
reached his top weight, 401 pounds, at which time he radically changed both his exercise routine and his diet. Thirtytwo weeks later he had lost 218 pounds.
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He could have blown me off, seeing that I was
a ragamuffin kid with no lucre for the till.
Instead he el).ded up volunteering his personal
home address in case I needed some further
illumination. 1
A year later, Strand met up again with Randall at
a Chicago Teenage Youth event where both were participating. Strand was fulfilling a commitment to the
YMCA, which awarded him a scholarship for being one
of the top five outstanding teenage athletes in the region.
Bruce Randall was still as impressive in character as
Strand remembered him from the year before:
He was as always more of a Jack Lalanne educator than a Joe Weider marketer ... He was
never given a lot of coverage because he headRandall, weighing about 350 pounds, was very strong, particularly in the deadlift. He claimed to have done 770
pounds, well ahead of the best dead lift done up until that
time. As can be seen in the photo, he also had unusually
well-shaped thighs and calves, which were two of the reasons he was successful as a bodybuilder several years later.
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ed up the Billard Barbell Company for Diversified Products of Canada. So he was looked
upon as a competitor by the Hoffman and Weider equipment companies.z
What was so special about this [future] 1959
bodybuilding champion that even Peary Rader would
dedicate both his editorial and a feature article to him in
the May 1957 issue of Iron Man? Rader set the tone in
his editorial titled, "A Lesson from Bruce Randall's Story":
VERY few, if any, men have come along in the
Iron Game who created such a sensation as
Bruce Randall. We had followed this young
man's rapid rise to fame during the past year or
so through friends who knew him and watched
his progress. His remarkable gains in bodyweight and power were truly unbelievable.
When he reached a little over 300 lbs. none of
us ever thought he would go on to over 400
lbs. How much farther could he have gone?
He feels he could have reached at least 500
lbs., and no doubt he could have. He feels that
at 500 lbs. bodyweight he could have dead lifted 1,000 lbs. After seeing his remarkable
accomplishments we would not want to doubt
his ability to lift so much.3
Rader's lesson in this story was firmly on faith
and detetmination in one's God-given abilities to do
what he or she sets their mind to. Randall not only
willed himself to bring his bodyweight up methodically
to over 400 lbs. (181.8 kg) for strength purposes, but to
then make such a dramatic transformation that he was
able to capture the 1959 Mr. Universe crown. In the
same May 1957 issue of Iron Man, Rader shared the
"Amazing Story of Bruce Randall. "4
Randall believed his appreciation for the value
of proper diet was obtained during a summer job on a
merchant vessel. It was during his stint at sea that he
attributed the fresh air, hard work, and good eating for
taking his bodyweight from 164 lbs. (74.55 kg) to 192
lbs. (87.27 kg) in 58 days. Back to school and playing
football and putting the shot, his weight dropped back to
185 lbs. (84.09 kg), where it remained until he graduated.
After entering the Marine Corps and finishing
August 2008
boot camp, he was stationed at
the Norfolk Naval Base. It was at
this point where Randall stated
he was six months past his 21st
year in January of 1953 when he
was introduced to the finest
weight h·aining facility in the
Navy, mn by Chief Petty Officer
Walter Metzler. Randall was still
playing around with his shot put
and weighed 203 lbs. (92.27 kg)
but he wanted to get up to 225
lbs. (102.3 kg) in order to play
football for the base.
Randall stated his initiating strategy for getting bigger
and sh·onger:
In order to mcrease my
food intake, each time I
sat down to a meal I
would take an extra chop,
glass of milk, slice of
bread, etc. before leaving
the table. By doing this
at every meal, (and I
made it a point never to
miss a meal), my stomach seemed to stretch in
order to accommodate
the increase in food. Also
my digestion, assimilation and other body functions stepped up to take
care of the increase.
(Now I do not necessarily recommend this
method for those who
wish to gain weight. I
merely relate this to illustrate how I gained so rapidly.)s
Iron Game History
This photo, from the Todd-Mclean Collection, was given to Ottley Coulter by Randall
in the late 1950s, when he weighed approximately 225 pounds. It demonstrates the
body Randall had when he won the coveted NABBA Mr. Universe title in 1959. The
remarkable physical transformation he was able to make in just a few years, before
the arrival of anabolic steroids, is unprecedented in the annals of physical culture.
Even today-with anabolic steroids, human Growth Hormone, food supplements, and
an improved understanding of nutrition and training techniques-no one has come
close to doing what Randall did.
Randall shot from 203 lbs. (92.27 kg) up to 225 tion, but was a bit perplexed over his choice of training
lbs. (1 02.3 kg) in six weeks. By spring, he was up to 265 routines. It was well known that Rader and others were
lbs. (120.5 kg). At that point, Metzler convinced him to adamant about heavy leg work anchoring a big
drop football and focus on the weight training. Peary eating/strength program, but strangely enough, Randall
Rader liked and respected Randall's attitude and disposi- chose to work nothing but arms for those first initial
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months of training. However, Randall was quite diplomatic about his approach:
Let me say here and now that I do not believe
one can just get fat and become strong. Things
such as what foods were used to gain the
weight, routines used in training, living habits,
etc., all have to be done properly in order to
become stronger through increases in bodyweight. In other words if one makes a corresponding increase in the weights used in training as he gains weight the end result is
increased strength. This of course is not the
only way to get stronger. It just happens to be
the method I employed.6
Bmce Randall did make some alterations to his
program, but nothing elaborate and still no squats. He
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added some chest work and the "good morning" exercise
to his routine. On the latter movement, he would build
up to an unbelievable weight of 685 lbs. (311.4 kg).
Most people were afraid of doing the good morning
exercise with an empty barbell or even a broomstick, let
alone dare think of a weight of that enormity. It was tmly a Herculean feat of strength.
Randall originally shied away from the squat
because of a serious injury three years previously in
which he broke his leg in seven places. He would periodically test his strength in this movement and attributed
the hard work in the good morning exercise for allowing
him to squat 680 lbs. (309.1 kg). Not bad for an occasional attempt. He actually once took a shot at a 750 lbs.
(340.9 kg) good morning, but had to drop the bar
because the weights shifted on him.
The only thing rivaling Randall's incredible
feats of strength was the quantity of food he consumed.
In this photo, Randall weighs 187 pounds, which is almost as low as he went before upping
It was his belief that in order
to increase his strength, he
would have to increase his
size, and this meant a significant increase in food. He
structured his diet around
four meals starting at 6:30
a.m., 11 :30 a.m., 4:30 p.m.,
and finally 9:30 p.m. The
only food he would allow
between meals was milk.
On average, he consumed
eight to ten quatis (7 .26 to
9.08 L) a day along with 12
to 18 eggs. As mentioned,
this was average! He stated
it was not uncommon for
him to drink two quarts
(1.82 L) of milk for breakfast, along with 28 fried
eggs and a loaf and a half of
bread. He once consumed
19 quatis (17.25 L) of milk
in one day, and 171 eggs in
total over seven consecutive
breakfasts! That's almost
five gallons, or close to
15,000 calories and over
600 grams of protein in milk
alone. He was known to virtually fill an entire cafeteria
his food intake and altering his weight-loss training program. He added almost 40 pounds
before he won the Mr. Universe contest. The training programs and the diet he used to trim
down were at least as radical as the techniques he used to gain from 203 pounds to 342
pounds in just over 14 months. For example, during his weight-loss period he once trained
for 81 hours in one week, and in the first 15 days of 1956 he did at least 5,000 sit-ups every
day. He realized that these procedures were potentially dangerous, and did not recommend
them.
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August 2008
tray with rice and pork and consume it all at a single sitting. [Editors ' note: On one occasion, this resulted in a
trip to the hospital. What happened is that by the time
Randall got to the mess hall most of the food that he
liked was gone- except for rice. So he ate a cafeteria
tray fit!! of rice which, not having been thoroughly
cooked, swelled so much once Randall had eaten it that
he had to have his stomach pumped.}
Randall was discharged from the Marines on
March 11, 1954 and tipped the scales at 342 lbs. (155 .5
kg). This was a gain of 139lbs. (63.18 kg) in just over
14 months. He continued to bring his weight up to 380
lbs. (172. 7 kg), when he made the following lifts:
Press: 2 repetitions with 365 lbs. (165.9 kg),
1 rep with 375 lbs.(170.5 kg);
Squat: 680 lbs. (309.1 kg);
Good morning exercise: with legs bent, back
parallel to floor, 685 lbs. (311.4 kg);
Deadlift: 730 lbs. (331.8 kg) 2 repetitions,
770 lbs. (350.0 kg) 1 rep;
Curl: 228 lbs. (1 03.6 kg);
Dum bell bench press: with pair of 220 lbs.
( 100 kg) dumbells, 2 repetitions;
Supine press: with 482 lbs. (2·19.1 kg) after 3
seconds pause at chest;
Decline dum bell press: with pair of 220 lbs.
(1 00 kg) dumbells, 1 repetition;
45 degree incline clean and press: 380 lbs.
(172.7 kg), twice, 410 lbs. (186.4 kg) once;
[Ed. Note: This was probably a continental
clean of some kind and not a power clean.}
Support weight at chest for 1/4 squats:
1320 lbs. (600 kg);
1/4 squats: with weight well in excess of
2100 lbs. (909.55 kg).7
These lifts were rivaling those of the phenomenal 1956 Olympic heavyweight weightlifting gold
medalist , Paul Anderson. Randall stated that he brought
his weight up to a final401lbs. (182.3 kg), but was finding it difficult to focus strictly on his training. [Ed. Note:
Not to mention the expense of his diet.} To this giant athlete, his quest for strength through sheer size was driven
by the power of a willful mind resembling that of The
Mighty Atom:
I am a finn believer in the power of the mind
when it comes to lifting (or anything else for
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Iron Game History
that matter). It is only with the constant urging
of the mind upon the body to do more and
more that one attains the pinnacle. As much as
one uses his body in this spmi I believe he uses
his mind more. Strength, I believe, depends
upon one's mental attitude. How many times
I have seen a man say, 'I can't lift this,' and
consequently he can not. Conversely many
men can lift a weight because they think they
can. And they do! It all boils down to this.
Without the proper frame of mind nothing is
possible and with the proper frame of JRind
nothing is impossible.s
What Goes Up Must Come Down!
His "never say never" attitude was about to be
put to the test. It was August of 1955 when he hit 401
lbs. (182.3 kg) and decided he wanted to "look at life
from the other side of the weight picture." Upon his
decision to reduce his weight dramatically, he was met
by some negative feedback, including some from
authorities in the industry. Undaunted, Randall viewed
the challenge methodically as he stated:
Take a sculptor about to create a statue. He
takes a big, ungainly piece of rock and with his
hammer and chisel he chips away at the rock
until he creates the desired effect. Well, I was
that big ungainly hulk of rock and the dumbells and barbells were my hammer and chisel.
I also had something on my side that the sculptor does not have, Diet.9
Randall's strategy was basically to reverse all
engines. Just as he gradually increased his calories by
incrementally adding food to each meal, he did the
opposite by slowly reducing the size of each meal until
he settled into the following regimen:
Breakfast
Lunch
2 soft boiled eggs
Plain pint (0.45 L) of skim milk
Glass of orange juice
Apple
Salad, dates, nuts
Supper
Round steak
Two vegetables
Iron Game History
Quart (0.91 L) skim milk with
additional powdered milk
Gelatine
Coffee occasionallyiO
Volume 10 Number 3
chronically over-trained state. He probably had little difficulty bringing his competition weight up to 219 lbs.
(99.55 kg). According to the November, 1957 issue of
Muscle Power, he placed sixth a year later at 195 lbs.
(88.64 kg), 24 lbs. (10.9 kg) lighter than the year
He adopted a system formatted similarly to one before.l2 Randall's off-season weight seemed to have
Vince Gironda used the next year, but Randall would be settled between 230 lbs. (104.5 kg) and 240 lbs. (109.1
much more radical in his exercise regimen. He elimi- kg). He competed and won the 1959 NABBA Mr. Uninated the starch and much of the fat from his diet and
verse title at a body weight of222lbs. (100.9 kg). went very light on the lunch. His eating plan was pri- Randall said it was unlikely that he'd bring his marily lean protein and some fmits and vegetables.
Once again, Randall matched the dramatic reduction in weight to such a size again, but would not totally mle the
calories with an equally phenomenal increase in his possibility out. His food bill was often over $100 a week
h·aining. Repetitions jumped from three to five up to 12 and that wasn't cheap back in the mid-1950s. He did
to 15. His sets went from three to five and his repertoire state, however, that if he did choose to do so, he felt he
of exercises went from six to 20. He claimed his ses- could reach 500 1bs. (227.3 kg) in 18 months.
13 Bmce
sions lasted from six to seven hours. He stated that he Randall finished his revelations to Peary Rader in that
once h·ained 27 hours in two days, and 81 hours in one May 1957 article with the following advice, "In concluweek. sion I should like to say that I have found these two mles
In his New Year's resolution for 1956, he vowed enmmously helpful in any undertaking I have attempted.
to do 5,000 sit-ups daily for 15 days straight. He feels 1. Ask and ye shall receive. 2. The Lord helps those who
the 75,000 sit-ups helped him reduce his waist to 33 help themselves."l4
inches (83.82 em). Randall also incorporated a lot of It may have been the muscles of Bmce Randall
mnning into his routine and by March 20, 1956, he that first drew the young Chicago native, Teny Strand, to
weighed in at 183 lbs. (83.18 kg). This was an amazing go with such enthusiasm to see the 1950s physique star.
drop of 218 lbs. (99.09 kg) in 32 weeks. Below are However, it was Randall's nature that left so powerful an
Bmce Randall's measurements at his various weights. impression on Strand that 40 years later, Strand had He stated the measurements listed at 401 lbs. ( 182.3 kg) exhausted all Iron Game avenues in order to ascetiain
were actually taken at a lower weight. II
.----:-----=---:--=-==------=----:--:::--:-==-------:-::---:--=---:-:=-=:::,---, the remaining legacy of the idol of
January 3, 1953 August 2, 1955 March 20, 1956 his youth. Surely, many would be
203 lbs. (92.27 kg) 401 lbs. (182.3 kg) 183 lbs. (83.18 kg) curious as to just what else the amazArm: 16 ~" (41.28 em) 231/8" (58.75 em) 17 W (43.81 em)
ing drive of Bmce Randall brought
him through the subsequent decades
Chest: 45" (114.3 em) 61 %" (156.84 em) 49" (124.46 em) ofhis life.
Waist: 31" (78.74 em) 58 W' (148.59 em) 29" (73.66 em) Notes: Thigh: 23" 58.42 em) 35 W 89.54 em) 24" (60.96 em) 1. Interview with Terry Strand, 2006.
Calf: 16" (40.64 em) 22 1/8" (56.21 em) 17" (43.18 em) .__ ___ __;_ ___ _;__ _____ ....:...,_ __ __;_ ___ ___; ___ ....;.____. 3. Peary Rader, 'Editorial: A Lesson From Bruce Ran- 2. Ibid .
Randall went on to compete in the Mr. America
that year and placed thirteenth. His weight had gone
from 183 lbs. (83.18 kg) to 219 lbs. (99.55 kg) for that
event. What was amazing is that it was noted in Iron
Man that after all the weight manipulations, there were
no stretch marks or loose skin visible on his body at the
America show. At six feet two inches tall (187.96 em),
183 lbs. (83 .18 kg) was not an appropriate weight for
him and most likely represented a vety emaciated,
28
dall's Story,' Iron Man (April/May 1957): 7.
4. Peary Rader "The Amazing Story of Bruce Randall," Iron Man (April/May 1957):
12-17,42, 47-51.
5. 1bid., 12.
6. Ibid., 13-14.
7. Ibid., 15-16.
B. Ibid., 16.
9. Ibid.
10. Ibid., 42.
11 . 1bid.
12. Charles Coster, "Ron Lacy Gains Double Victory at Daytona," Muscle Power
(November 1957): 25.
13. Rader, "Amazing Story of Bnuce R
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 27, 2021, 01:17:24 PM

Dallas, WTF is CNN & MSNBC .......comedy clubs or something !?.

(looks like U A into rainbow colours)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2021, 03:50:16 PM
Dallas, WTF is CNN & MSNBC .......comedy clubs or something !?.

(looks like U A into rainbow colours)
   
&t=106s    why weren't you there fighting for your man. he needed you and you abandoned him in his time of need.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 27, 2021, 10:35:52 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 28, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
       why weren't you there fighting for your man. he needed you and you abandoned him in his time of need.

Dallas , I never-ever watch those videos  :-\

Do U plan another hip replacement in 2021 !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 28, 2021, 03:21:48 PM
Dallas , I never-ever watch those videos  :-\

Do U plan another hip replacement in 2021 !.
   not if I can help it,  that's for sure. and I'm checking to see what's involved in getting my name changed to dallas . I'm kind of liking being called dallas. :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 29, 2021, 12:56:35 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2021, 01:11:02 PM


anyone else curious to whats going on down there?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on September 29, 2021, 03:59:50 PM
anyone else curious to whats going on down there?

The human Tri-pod!
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on September 29, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Physically he's literally half a man. Otherwise he's twice the man as compared to a lot of others. Great attitude. Very impressive.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on September 29, 2021, 08:16:15 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on September 30, 2021, 10:28:08 AM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2021, 05:37:18 PM


..........any good videos about joe biden bridge in del rio  :D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2021, 05:39:43 PM


.......any videos about joe biden bridge in del rio ...........
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 30, 2021, 06:19:53 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 01, 2021, 04:55:23 AM
..........any good videos about joe biden bridge in del rio  :D
     
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 01, 2021, 09:35:34 AM

I'll bet the officer's family were pissed.  They just lost her and her death is announced by an airhead on TV. ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2021, 03:59:28 PM
Bump for this commie to be booted
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 05, 2021, 04:14:26 PM
Bump for this commie to be booted

Stop whining you little bitch

If you can't deal with my posts then just stop reading them



Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2021, 04:33:39 PM
Stop whining you little bitch

If you can't deal with my posts then just stop reading them

You had a sample banning last week and still didn't learn anything. I'm going to filibuster for lifetime ban
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 05, 2021, 05:13:56 PM
You had a sample banning last week and still didn't learn anything. I'm going to filibuster for lifetime ban

 :o :o :o

 ???
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 05, 2021, 05:28:33 PM
You had a sample banning last week and still didn't learn anything. I'm going to filibuster for lifetime ban

typical fascist behavior

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: AbrahamG on October 05, 2021, 05:31:11 PM
typical fascist behavior

 ;D
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 05, 2021, 05:44:16 PM
;D

if you really want a laugh check out this clip from the audio book and you can hear Boehner say it himself

It's the last words in his book

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2021, 05:54:52 PM
typical fascist behavior

You shouldn't use big words that you don't know the definition of
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 05, 2021, 06:08:30 PM
You shouldn't use big words that you don't know the definition of

I'm sure you think fascism is a "big word"

Here let me help you out
Quote
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Note the suppression of opposition part.

Sound familiar ?

Aren't you embarrassed to be trying to get me banned just because you can't deal with the fact that REALITY kicks you in your tiny shriveled balls every day of your life

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2021, 06:14:29 PM
I'm sure you think fascism is a "big word"

Here let me help you out
Note the suppression of opposition part.

Sound familiar ?

Aren't you embarrassed to be trying to get me banned just because you can't deal with the fact that REALITY kicks you in your tiny shriveled balls every day of your life

So then you admit that Trump was never a fascist? You owned yourself again..tard
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 07, 2021, 04:23:52 PM
You shouldn't use big words that you don't know the definition of

After all, he is of ITALIAN DNA  :D, we know WHO "invented" fascism , don't we !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 07, 2021, 07:11:00 PM
AbrahamG you will appreciate this
It's a long walk but I think you know what I'm talking about

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 08, 2021, 11:50:22 AM
So then you admit that Trump was never a fascist? You owned yourself again..tard

wrong

right over your head as usual

Trump is both a FASCIST and a TRAITOR (and we learned even more about his treason yesterday)

Fascists like Trump depend on useful idiots such as yourself
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2021, 01:15:58 PM
wrong

right over your head as usual

Trump is both a FASCIST and a TRAITOR (and we learned even more about his treason yesterday)

Fascists like Trump depend on useful idiots such as yourself

Lol…. Village idiot has never been more fitting 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2021, 01:19:19 PM
wrong

right over your head as usual

Trump is both a FASCIST and a TRAITOR (and we learned even more about his treason yesterday)

Fascists like Trump depend on useful idiots such as yourself

LOL - Biden the decrepit old queer homo is doing more fascistic bs than trump could ever imagine. 



LETS GO BRANDON! 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 08, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
LOL - Biden the decrepit old queer homo is doing more fascistic bs than trump could ever imagine. 



LETS GO BRANDON!
   
    like him or not he sure could open those bottles of high quality H2O...........drinking from them was another matter altogether though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 08, 2021, 03:55:27 PM
wrong

right over your head as usual

Trump is both a FASCIST and a TRAITOR (and we learned even more about his treason yesterday)

Fascists like Trump depend on useful idiots such as yourself


What about YOU BoB , you are Italiano REMEMBER !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 14, 2021, 01:56:31 PM
...this troll needs to go. He's a useless piece of shit that contributes NOTHING to this board or life in general
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 14, 2021, 01:59:02 PM

What about YOU BoB , you are Italiano REMEMBER !.

There is no possible way Straw is Italian 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: djliftsthings on October 14, 2021, 02:09:18 PM
haha more votes for him to stay now. I voted for him to stay simply to watch him own Coach over and over
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on October 14, 2021, 02:11:24 PM
No cancelling on Getbig.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 14, 2021, 04:21:07 PM
There is no possible way Straw is Italian

ITALIAN/American , he is very proud of his Sicilian origyn !.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on October 14, 2021, 04:25:50 PM
ITALIAN/American , he is very proud of his Sicilian origyn !.



I never knew a Sicilian pussy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 14, 2021, 06:31:16 PM
...this troll needs to go. He's a useless piece of shit that contributes NOTHING to this board or life in general

He contributes to the daily ass beating you incur in multiples each time you visit the board.

The fact you want him banned tells us how far in your head he is. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 14, 2021, 06:46:07 PM
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 14, 2021, 07:14:39 PM
He contributes to the daily ass beating you incur in multiples each time you visit the board.

The fact you want him banned tells us how far in your head he is.


HHhahah..here one of the three toads now..sure cupcake 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 07:26:35 AM

HHhahah..here one of the three toads now..sure cupcake 😂

Poor little midget.  Straw simply owns that little tumbleweed factory you call a mind.  You can't overcome his facts and logic so you want the mods to ban him and the little reality you can't cope with.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 15, 2021, 08:31:42 AM
Poor little midget.  Straw simply owns that little tumbleweed factory you call a mind.  You can't overcome his facts and logic so you want the mods to ban him and the little reality you can't cope with.
Straw doesn't own anyone's mind including his own.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 08:41:29 AM
Straw doesn't own anyone's mind including his own.

The very existence of this poll calling for his banishment says otherwise.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 08:54:43 AM
Poor little midget.  Straw simply owns that little tumbleweed factory you call a mind.  You can't overcome his facts and logic so you want the mods to ban him and the little reality you can't cope with.

Back for another ass beating lol

Keep hiding. You’re safe there 😂
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 15, 2021, 09:22:08 AM
Back for another ass beating lol

Keep hiding. You’re safe there 😂

Hey phony "coach"

How is this thread working out for you?

116 pages later and I'm still here and you're still a whiny little bitch

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 09:26:39 AM
Hey phony "coach"

How is this thread working out for you?

116 pages later and I'm still here and you're still a whiny little bitch

Great, or can you not count?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 15, 2021, 09:28:56 AM
Great, or can you not count?

I count just fine

Just like all the votes that were counted and re-counted and re-re-counted that confirmed Joe Biden kicked Donald Trumps fat ass

After all that counting both Biden and I are still here and you're still a phony "coach"


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 09:40:29 AM
I count just fine

Just like all the votes that were counted and re-counted and re-re-counted that confirmed Joe Biden kicked Donald Trumps fat ass

After all that counting both Biden and I are still here and you're still a phony "coach"

Of course he did...lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 15, 2021, 09:49:55 AM
Of course he did...lol

Yep, he did

We're all aware that your broken brain can't handle that reality

It's just fucking weird that people like you still cling to this lie

Your guy lost.  Better luck next time

That's how life works





Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IroNat on October 15, 2021, 10:11:54 AM
The poll results don't mean you are liked, only that Getbiggers don't believe in cancelling.

So different from your lefty, Commie associates, Strawzy.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
Back for another ass beating lol

Keep hiding. You’re safe there 😂

Why do you lie so much?

What am I hiding from?  Certainly not your little midget ass.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 10:14:22 AM
Of course he did...lol

He did.  If you say otherwise, you are a liar.  Which you are, so carry on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 10:29:49 AM
He did.  If you say otherwise, you are a liar.  Which you are, so carry on.

lol….the other hiding troll
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 15, 2021, 10:37:33 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5qk3yu.jpg)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 11:26:16 AM
lol….the other hiding troll

Who is hiding and what are they hiding from?

You've been asked this before.  Why no answer?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
His own party knows the truth.

---
Republican Group Trolls Trump With Massive Billboard Reminding Him He's A Loser.

A Republican group is using billboards to send a blunt message to Donald Trump and his supporters who are still pushing for election audits based on debunked claims of election fraud.

“TRUMP LOST,” the billboards from Republicans for Voting Rights read. “NO MORE ‘AUDITS.’”

One billboard is in Times Square in New York.

“The 2020 election was secure and fair,” Amanda Carpenter, director of Republicans for Voting Rights, said in a statement. “These sham audits are a waste of time and money.”

---
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 15, 2021, 11:35:07 AM
   
     it's a yes or no question. but he can't say yes..... or no. ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 12:27:38 PM
His own party knows the truth.

---
Republican Group Trolls Trump With Massive Billboard Reminding Him He's A Loser.

A Republican group is using billboards to send a blunt message to Donald Trump and his supporters who are still pushing for election audits based on debunked claims of election fraud.

“TRUMP LOST,” the billboards from Republicans for Voting Rights read. “NO MORE ‘AUDITS.’”

One billboard is in Times Square in New York.

“The 2020 election was secure and fair,” Amanda Carpenter, director of Republicans for Voting Rights, said in a statement. “These sham audits are a waste of time and money.”

---

you seem nervous
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Straw Man on October 15, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
His own party knows the truth.

---
Republican Group Trolls Trump With Massive Billboard Reminding Him He's A Loser.

A Republican group is using billboards to send a blunt message to Donald Trump and his supporters who are still pushing for election audits based on debunked claims of election fraud.

“TRUMP LOST,” the billboards from Republicans for Voting Rights read. “NO MORE ‘AUDITS.’”

One billboard is in Times Square in New York.

“The 2020 election was secure and fair,” Amanda Carpenter, director of Republicans for Voting Rights, said in a statement. “These sham audits are a waste of time and money.”

---

Speaking of sham audits

Did you see the story where Idaho wants to send a bill to Mike Lindell for their worthless audit

WTF ?

If they were stupid enough to take a crackhead pillow salesman seriously that's their problem.
They knew his claims were bogus from the start.  The crackhead claimed that there was electronic manipulation of the vote in all 44 counties in the state which was an obviously bogus claim since at least seven Idaho counties have no electronic steps in their vote counting processes.

The question I have is why did they even bother taking this idiot seriously in the first place. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/idaho-state-secretary-mike-lindell-audit-bill-voter-fraud-claims-2021-10
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: djliftsthings on October 15, 2021, 12:30:13 PM
how in the glorious hell of fuck does Lurker "seem nervous" from posting a thing about a billboard about Trump? Its a fucking post about a subject. How does that translate into being nervous by the poster??????????

my fucking god
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 12:33:58 PM
you seem nervous

Of what?   
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 12:46:38 PM
how in the glorious hell of fuck does Lurker "seem nervous" from posting a thing about a billboard about Trump? Its a fucking post about a subject. How does that translate into being nervous by the poster??????????

my fucking god

It's a mental crutch that the dim witted half pint has constructed for himself so he doesn't have to deal with reality.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
Of what?

Trump of course, your TDS is as bad as your boyfriends
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 12:48:38 PM
It's a mental crutch that the dim witted half pint has constructed for himself so he doesn't have to deal with reality.

You're trolling me dumb shit lol
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Trump of course, your TDS is as bad as your boyfriends

Laughing at Trump is a sign of nervousness?  Or just in your mind?

Why would I be nervous of a multi election loser like he is?   You certainly are stupid.  We all know that, but you seem to want to remind us of the fact every time you sign on.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 15, 2021, 05:15:22 PM
HILARIOUS


Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
(https://image.emojipng.com/892/1945892.jpg)
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts never ending
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
Do you ever wonder
That to win, somebody's got to lose
You might as well get over the blues
Just like fishing in the ocean
There'll always be something new
You did it wrong 'cause there's been stormy weather
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts everlasting
And the beat goes on....better believe it
Still moving strong on and on
Don't stop for nobody
This time try to keep your feet on solid ground
Now I understand why you're a clown
Like the sweet sound of hip music
There'll always be something new
To keep the tables turning
Hey, this super song
There'll never be an ending
And the beat goes on
Just like the words never ending
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
The beat goes on
The beat goes on
Get down playing that fee, sure the beat is real
The beat goes on
Do you ever wonder
That to win, somebody's got to lose
Might as well get over the blues
Just like fishing in the ocean
There'll always be someone new
You did it wrong 'cause there's been stormy weather
And the beat goes on
Just like the words everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts never ending
And the beat goes on
Just like those posts, baby
Just like the words, those words, baby, on and on
And the beat goes on
Don't stop the moving
Don't stop the moving
And the beat goes on
Just like the words everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
And the beat goes on
Just like the words never ending
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
And the beat goes on, just like the words, baby
Just like those posts, baby, everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong and I own you
The beat goes on
The beat goes on
The beat goes on
The beat goes on
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts never ending
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong and they own you
And the beat goes on
Just like the posts everlasting
And the beat goes on
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: tom joad on October 15, 2021, 07:00:49 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBwrSw8VIAQiJdR?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2021, 10:44:50 PM
Laughing at Trump is a sign of nervousness?  Or just in your mind?

Why would I be nervous of a multi election loser like he is?   You certainly are stupid.  We all know that, but you seem to want to remind us of the fact every time you sign on.

Yeah…
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2021, 11:21:07 PM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag
This is a very good observation. Listen up Coach; the bottom line is to be careful of what you wish for.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2021, 11:25:07 PM
And this is why it is soooooo hard to give you any credibility. You HAVE to know all the people who ratified the election, I won't repeat it because we've been over it so many times, and you STILL cling to the nonsense claim like a well conditioned Trumpster

You do realize that you are....

(https://c.tenor.com/Om-QDgQaFw8AAAAC/southpark-beat.gif)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 16, 2021, 06:52:31 AM
Yeah…

Yeah... you are.  Stupid.  Everyone knows it.  You prove it over and over.  Daily.

Little man, little mind. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 16, 2021, 07:09:44 AM
Coach. I will try speaking to you as a rational adult.

Strawman speaks for a lot of Americans. In fact, he speaks for about 80 million vs 74 million.Thats just a fact. You can play like Biden didn't get that many votes and many on here will play along with you but the proven fact remains he did.

You post a lot of BS. You are famous for making a bold headline with a link and no comment. 9 times out of 10 after reading your link it contradicts your headline which makes people think you don't read the articles you post, you just go off the headlines and it affects your credibility.

I personally have called you out over and over on your (what I perceive) t0 be your kindergarten grasp of politics and facts. Affidavits being one of those things, but I want to go on record here as saying I believe you to be an upstanding solid citizen. We disagree on almost every aspect of poltics, but that doesn't mean you aren't a stand up guy. I think in a pinch you would be a guy who could be counted on. I also think Strawman is in that category. Politics aside, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he isn't a person of his word.

You call him a troll. I understand that because if I didn't know you, I would think YOU were a troll. Politics of today isn't the politics of 20 years ago. There is division an animosity that hasn't existed in my life time. I would just ask that we ALL check emotion and realize not everyone sees things the way we see them and they may believe it as much as you believe whatever you believe. There are a LOT of trolls on Getbig. You and Strawman aren't one of them.

Ag

PEW PEW PEW goes the sound of reality bouncing off Qoach's Shield O' Delusions.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 16, 2021, 02:10:42 PM
Yeah... you are.  Stupid.  Everyone knows it.  You prove it over and over.  Daily.

Little man, little mind.


BoB, why don't yaa employ 'Russian bounty hunters from Afghanistan' to fix him up !.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 16, 2021, 02:52:08 PM

BoB, why don't yaa employ 'Russian bounty hunters from Afghanistan' to fix him up !.

Because despite being stupid, he is still American.  Unlike you, you jealous kvunt.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 17, 2021, 10:56:59 AM
   
     
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 17, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
Because despite being stupid, he is still American.  Unlike you, you jealous kvunt.


BoB , I dream to be Rio Grande border officer , can you help !.

(I don't speak Haitian  :-\)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 17, 2021, 03:12:49 PM

BoB , I dream to be Rio Grande border officer , can you help !.

(I don't speak Haitian  :-\)

That would require you to be an American.  Which you are not.   3rd world trash.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: djliftsthings on October 17, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
heres what I always wonder about with this whole american political thing. Whether you like Biden or Trump, who is President for the next few years? It seems redundant and a waste of time to bitch about it on the internet. It wouldbe like me bitching about the Edmonton Oilers losing a game 4 days after they lost. Its redundant, it doesnt change a thing. American political arguments baffle me.

Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 17, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
That would require you to be an American.  Which you are not.   3rd world trash.

BoB, but NOW you live in the DDD rated country  :-\

& yours current president is ZZZ rated ,  :-\ :-\ :-\

Tell me BoB, those Del Rio bridge residents must be the 1st World elite from: Singapore,Japan,Australia & other AAA rated countries ........................ ................ ::)
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: King Shizzo on October 17, 2021, 10:59:33 PM
heres what I always wonder about with this whole american political thing. Whether you like Biden or Trump, who is President for the next few years? It seems redundant and a waste of time to bitch about it on the internet. It wouldbe like me bitching about the Edmonton Oilers losing a game 4 days after they lost. Its redundant, it doesnt change a thing. American political arguments baffle me.
You can't really say it's just an American thing. I'm sure there are plenty of Canadians that complain about Trudeau.

I remember liking the old British Prime Minister, Tony Blair.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2021, 05:19:30 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2021, 05:20:57 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 18, 2021, 09:23:34 AM
BoB, but NOW you live in the DDD rated country  :-\

& yours current president is ZZZ rated ,  :-\ :-\ :-\

Tell me BoB, those Del Rio bridge residents must be the 1st World elite from: Singapore,Japan,Australia & other AAA rated countries ........................ ................ ::)

Australia ain’t shit. 
We made Japan our bitch already.  Soy bois are irrelevant.
Singapore owes a chunk of their economy success to the US.  They need us more than we will ever need them.

So what shitty country you from?  Why so ashamed to say?  Or are you too stupid to give a simple answer?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2021, 04:43:27 PM
 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 18, 2021, 04:56:05 PM
Australia ain’t shit. 
We made Japan our bitch already.  Soy bois are irrelevant.
Singapore owes a chunk of their economy success to the US.  They need us more than we will ever need them.

So what shitty country you from?  Why so ashamed to say?  Or are you too stupid to give a simple answer?


Hillary level neocon detected.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 18, 2021, 04:57:53 PM

Hillary level neocon detected.

I prefer to view it as Trumpconian. 
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 18, 2021, 05:00:36 PM
I prefer to view it as Trumpconian.


Yes, we call that TDS when you assign things to Trump he didn't do. It continues.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Primemuscle on October 18, 2021, 05:14:28 PM
BoB, but NOW you live in the DDD rated country  :-\

& yours current president is ZZZ rated ,  :-\ :-\ :-\

Tell me BoB, those Del Rio bridge residents must be the 1st World elite from: Singapore,Japan,Australia & other AAA rated countries ........................ ................ ::)

I assume you mean credit rating. The U.S. current credit rating is not DDD, it is: United States
S&P AA+   Moody's Aaa   Finch AAA     DBRS AAA

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/rating

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/forecast
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 18, 2021, 05:59:33 PM

Yes, we call that TDS when you assign things to Trump he didn't do. It continues.

Quite the opposite.  I agree with his "shithole" countries comment.

Try again though.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 18, 2021, 06:00:36 PM
I assume you mean credit rating. The U.S. current credit rating is not DDD, it is: United States
S&P AA+   Moody's Aaa   Finch AAA     DBRS AAA

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/rating

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/forecast

Did you really think this idiot knew what he was talking about?
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 19, 2021, 10:56:05 AM
   
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: funk51 on October 19, 2021, 11:00:13 AM
   
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 28, 2022, 10:35:18 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 28, 2022, 10:36:38 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 29, 2022, 11:22:06 AM
Somebody needs to pay for all these false flag hoaxes. The libtards just move on to the next conspiracy against Trump.
Title: Re: Strawman
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 29, 2022, 06:42:01 PM
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LOL!

That's awesome.