yo tbombz

[Shawdow]

i saw in another thread you were doing 35 sets for shoulders, how many sets do you do for other bodyparts?
whats your rest between sets? to exhaust a muscle like you said you could just do a couple of huge dropsets, what do you think?

[io856]

why not do 100 sets?

[Reign Down]

why not do 100 sets?

exactly

[tbombz]

why not do 100 sets?

i do as many sets it takes untill doing more reps doesnt increase the size of my muscle. if my muscle keeps swelling with more and more sets, then ill keep going untill it stops swelling. shoulders happen to take alor of sets before they are stretched to the max. my biceps on the other hand can be pumped in porbably 12-15 sets if i go hard enough

[WillGrant]

lol

[chaos]

i do as many sets it takes untill doing more reps doesnt increase the size of my muscle. if my muscle keeps swelling with more and more sets, then ill keep going untill it stops swelling. shoulders happen to take alor of sets before they are stretched to the max. my biceps on the other hand can be pumped in porbably 12-15 sets if i go hard enough

Are you saying you can visually see a difference in your muscles with every set you do?

[haider]

Are you saying you can visually see a difference in your muscles with every set you do?

are you questioning the science behind tbombz methods? 

[Geo]

I'm gonna call bullshit on 35 sets....

[windsor88]

I'm gonna call bullshit on 35 sets....

x2 

totally uncalled for if true.

[chaos]

are you questioning the science behind tbombz methods? 

It sounds like that is what he is claiming, I just want to know if it's true.

[tbombz]

Are you saying you can visually see a difference in your muscles with every set you do?

not see but feel

[chaos]

not see but feel

So you "feel" your muscles getting bigger with every set?

[PANDAEMONIUM]

i do as many sets it takes untill doing more reps doesnt increase the size of my muscle. if my muscle keeps swelling with more and more sets, then ill keep going untill it stops swelling. shoulders happen to take alor of sets before they are stretched to the max. my biceps on the other hand can be pumped in porbably 12-15 sets if i go hard enough

Unless you have the worst genetics in the world, your bi's don't need 12-15 sets to grow.  Ditto on the 35+ sets for shoulders.  You do that much on shoulders, your rotators and joints will be fried by 35 years old, and probably before.

[Fatpanda]

candy, you have lost the plot it seems.

you used be be one of the brightest minds on getbig too 

[tbombz]

theres a difference between "need" and "optimal"

right now im training the way most top professional bodybuilders would tell you to train. i go untill i feel like the muscle is as full and stretched and as beat up as possible.












secondly i would advise anyone who would doubt the effectiveness of a high volume routine to read up on how exactly training triggers muscle growth. and if your one to just listen to the theories of others wich are based on no science (mentzer, yates, etc)....well, learn some science. at the end of the day the science shows that you beat the fuck out of muscle as hard as you can, and thats what makes it grow.

[Zach Trowbridge]

theres a difference between "need" and "optimal"

There is?

[tbombz]

There is?

if your being serious thats extremely ignorant




for example, in order to prevent nitrogen losses and malnutrition, a hard training bodybuilder only needs to consume about 50 grams of protein per day.  however, in order to grow muscle at an optimal pace (fastest possible pace), protien intake would need to be much higher than 50grams per day.

[Zach Trowbridge]

if your being serious thats extremely ignorant




for example, in order to prevent nitrogen losses and malnutrition, a hard training bodybuilder only needs to consume about 50 grams of protein per day.  however, in order to grow muscle at an optimal pace (fastest possible pace), protien intake would need to be much higher than 50grams per day.

That's a ridiculous example.  A sedentary person needs 50g of protein per day.  A "hard training bodybuilder" cannot grow on 50g a day.  Not in an optimal fashion, not in any fashion period.  Pick a better example next time.

[benchthis]

That's a ridiculous example.  A sedentary person needs 50g of protein per day.  A "hard training bodybuilder" cannot grow on 50g a day.  Not in an optimal fashion, not in any fashion period.  Pick a better example next time.

didnt danny padilla only consume like less than 100 g of protein per day

[Fatpanda]

c bass eats very little protein, and looks quite good for a 60 year old guy

[Rimbaud]

didnt danny padilla only consume like less than 100 g of protein per day

Less then 60g (I think). It was when he was training for one of the O's - I think the 1981 but I could be wrong.

[wes]

35 sets in not enough............40-60 sets should be done for each of the three deltoid heads.

[tbombz]

That's a ridiculous example.  A sedentary person needs 50g of protein per day.  A "hard training bodybuilder" cannot grow on 50g a day.  Not in an optimal fashion, not in any fashion period.  Pick a better example next time.

its not rediculous. in fact its perfect. alll a bodybuilder "needs" to eat is 50 grams or so. but what a bodybuilder has to eat for "optimal" is different than what a bodybuilder "needs".

and a sedentary person actually needs more protein than a hard training bodybuilder (in order to remain out of a nitrogen defecit and avoid malnutrition).

[foxboro]

forgive me fellas (wes, you seem to be the man on this forum) but 40-60 sets? do you mean reps? i mean thats a ridiculous amout of effort from the rotator cuff no? i couldnt imagine doing more than 4 for each head (12 total).

[d0nny2600]

forgive me fellas (wes, you seem to be the man on this forum) but 40-60 sets? do you mean reps? i mean thats a ridiculous amout of effort from the rotator cuff no? i couldnt imagine doing more than 4 for each head (12 total).

Did you notice the sarcasm?