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Re: Strawman
« Reply #275 on: April 05, 2021, 10:21:39 AM »
That's why my opinion has weight.

I never subscribed to the circus.

It literally is a circus at this point.

Your opinion has as much weight on our elections and political landscape as people in other countries do.  Basically none.  Less weight actually, because they are non citizens with their own shitty countries to worry about. You live here and can’t be bothered to participate. 

So shut the fuck up ass roach.  For someone who came back from the dead you sure have blown your second chance at improving your dumb ass.

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« Reply #276 on: April 05, 2021, 10:23:39 AM »
Your opinion has as much weight on our elections and political landscape as people in other countries do.  Basically none.  Less weight actually, because they are non citizens with their own shitty countries to worry about. You live here and can’t be bothered to participate. 

So shut the fuck up ass roach.  For someone who came back from the dead you sure have blown your second chance at improving your dumb ass.
I'm neutral, brah

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #277 on: April 05, 2021, 10:27:39 AM »
I have seen two polls that state that 35-40% of Biden voters were unaware of the allegations against his on prior to the election (fits perfect with your soft steal narrative).

Of those surveyed, 9% would have changed their votes.  That's 3 million right there.

Generally, with these surveys I find the source and did into the data they provide....admittedly haven't done that yet...but did see this poll quoted in the Post this weekend.

But he hopefully won't run again...I doubt he will.

Dude, nine percent of

Oh, I get it.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #278 on: April 05, 2021, 10:31:27 AM »
Dude, nine percent of

Oh, I get it.

Yeah, did the same thing.
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Re: Strawman
« Reply #279 on: April 05, 2021, 10:38:10 AM »
I said it before and I will say it again.

Joe Biden couldn’t even defeat Bernie Sanders in the primaries.

And now you want America to believe he received the highest vote total in history?

Any person with an IQ above 50 can see that Joe Biden’s final vote total was historically, statistically, and mathematically impossible. It did not happen.

The COVID excuse to send out millions of mail-in ballots set the stage for the election results to be manipulated. There is absolutely no way Joe Biden received over 81,000,000 legal and legitimate votes.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #280 on: April 05, 2021, 11:32:58 AM »
I did. Stats’s and all. You have me a Reuters article

Maybe you can come up with an explanation as to why in all of the battleground states the vote count abruptly stopped around 10pm the night of the election when Trump was winning by a landslide in EVERY ONE OF THOSE states then the vote count restarted the next morning around 4am? Go ahead. Skate on this as well. This has never happened..

I’ll wait

Not here, you didn't. Read your post above....and underline for me the resources you provided therein.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #281 on: April 05, 2021, 11:41:23 AM »
I said it before and I will say it again.

Joe Biden couldn’t even defeat Bernie Sanders in the primaries.

And now you want America to believe he received the highest vote total in history?

Any person with an IQ above 50 can see that Joe Biden’s final vote total was historically, statistically, and mathematically impossible. It did not happen.

The COVID excuse to send out millions of mail-in ballots set the stage for the election results to be manipulated. There is absolutely no way Joe Biden received over 81,000,000 legal and legitimate votes.
Correct, and they are setting it up so they will never lose another election.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #282 on: April 05, 2021, 11:48:03 AM »
BINGO....like communist and socialist countries, rig the elections systems so the opposition can never win again. When Trump ran his promise was to “drain the swamp” and go after China. You go after China you disrupt the swamp. The “Swamp” didn’t want the status quo for decades disrupted and along comes an outsider, a non politician. Almost since the day his campaign started they knew he would trouble for the establishment and for four years while they made up conspiracy theories of all sorts while the MSM went along with it. The political left got ZERO done in those four except to look ahead 2020. Everything they threw at his was debunked right down to the fake impeachment’s and even today they’re still afraid of him which is he’s still in the headlines today. 

As for the courts? The “60” losses were not Trump lawyers but other attorneys/firms working pro Bono. Trump’s actual hired attorneys weren’t in court nearly that much.

BUT, most of the courts where those attorneys appeared were in front of Obama appointed attorneys and attorneys where Soros bought off the courts. Even in the local elections where I’m at, Soros money was involved funding the left.

Isn't this the U.S. Supreme Court you claimed would overturn the election?

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U.S. Supreme Court swiftly ends Trump-backed Texas bid to upend election results

The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday rejected a long-shot lawsuit by Texas and backed by President Donald Trump seeking to throw out voting results in four states, dealing him a likely fatal blow in his quest to undo his election loss to President-elect Joe Biden.

Trump said on Twitter, “The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, no Courage!”

Trump’s goal had long been for a case to reach the Supreme Court, where he had placed three new justices in his first term and where conservatives hold a 6-3 majority. The lawsuit brought by Texas and supported by 17 other states and more than 100 Republican members of Congress gave him that opportunity. The opportunity to lose once again. 

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #283 on: April 05, 2021, 11:52:39 AM »
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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Re: Strawman
« Reply #284 on: April 05, 2021, 11:59:12 AM »
now back to the hate and vitriol we all enjoy in this day and age. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Strawman
« Reply #285 on: April 05, 2021, 12:05:05 PM »
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
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Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
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<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

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Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

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‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
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QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.


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Re: Strawman
« Reply #286 on: April 05, 2021, 12:07:39 PM »
You admittedly don’t even vote, loser.

Or train or work out.   :D ;D ;)

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #287 on: April 05, 2021, 01:03:39 PM »
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
New York
Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
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<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

(Getty Images)

Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.

MSM - “It was an armed Insurrection”

Reality - No firearms were found or recovered

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #288 on: April 05, 2021, 01:07:02 PM »
Could Capitol rioters sue Trump for legal costs?
MSNBC host says Trump’s mob could sue for attorneys’ fees, lost income, and punitive damages

Nathan Place
New York
Wednesday 10 March 2021 16:31
 1 comments

<p>Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions</p>
Jacob Chansley, seen here in his horns during the Capitol riot, now blames Donald Trump for his actions

(Getty Images)

Multiple lawsuits are pending against Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January Capitol riot, but none have been brought by a key group: the rioters themselves. MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell thinks it’s about time.

“Who will be the first criminally charged attacker of the Capitol who turns on Donald Trump and files a lawsuit against Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was negligent in telling people to go to the Capitol and to fight?” Mr O’Donnell asked on his MSNBC show on Tuesday.

The host argued that Mr Trump upended many of his supporters’ lives by inducing them to attack the United States Capitol, which resulted in hundreds of them being arrested, charged with crimes, or fired from their jobs.

“There are over 300 people whose lives have been disrupted ... because of what Donald Trump told them to do,” he went on. “What they did for Donald Trump got them arrested by the FBI.”

Mr Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives for inciting a mob of his supporters to storm the Capitol, but was acquitted by the Senate. Since then, two Democratic representatives – Eric Swalwell of California and Bennie Thompson of Mississippi – have sued him in civil court.

Read more
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
Trump state department staffer arrested on Capitol riot charges
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
‘I will not step one foot out of line’: 18-year-old charged in Capitol riot begs for release
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
QAnon shaman ‘wounded’ over lack of Trump pardon, says he stopped rioters from ‘stealing muffins’
But Mr O’Donnell argued that it’s not just members of Congress who have a case.

“Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump for damages?” he wondered aloud about the rioters. “Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay attorneys’ fees in their criminal case? Which one of them will be the first to sue Donald Trump to pay for lost income and punitive damages for the time spent in jail?”


In a speech Mr Trump delivered in Washington, DC just before the riot, the former president told a crowd of his supporters to go to the Capitol and “fight” as Congress was certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,” Mr Trump said. “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated.”




Hours later, much of his audience was attacking the Capitol.

One of the people in that mob was the so-called QAnon shaman, Jacob Chansley, also known as Jake Angeli, an unemployed actor who infamously donned a pair of animal horns and face paint as he marauded through the Senate chamber. His lawyer now argues that Mr Trump “groomed” him with misleading conspiracy theories.

Mr O’Donnell wondered how far they would take that case.

“Will Jacob Chansley at some point sue Donald Trump for what happened to him that day? Will he sue Donald Trump for fraud in making him believe that the election was stolen, and he had to put on his horns and go to the Capitol and fight?”


Mr Chansley is currently in jail as he awaits his trial.

MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnel’s highly inaccurate, ridiculously biased, totally worthless opinion.

Guys like that play with their dog’s little red rocket.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #289 on: April 05, 2021, 01:08:08 PM »
I don’t have to defend anything.  It’s not my place to cater to your whining and delusions.

The fact that you can’t defend any of the policies or executive orders speaks volumes...

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #290 on: April 05, 2021, 01:28:54 PM »
The fact that you can’t defend any of the policies or executive orders speaks volumes...

The face you think I have to defend a negative shows how desperate you are in having other people believe your delusions.

Trump didn't have enough votes to win the election.  You didn't have enough votes to win this thread.  You are both losers.

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« Reply #291 on: April 05, 2021, 01:58:42 PM »
MSM - “It was an armed Insurrection”

Reality - No firearms were found or recovered

Partly right. No firearms have been found on the capital grounds the may have been used by the insurrectionists. The definition of arms is weapons.

Arms = weapons which includes knives and anything else which can be used to harm or kill others.

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the Jan. 6 riot, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.

Christopher Alberts, of Maryland, was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm on Capitol grounds or buildings, carrying a pistol without a license and possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

Federal prosecutors also have charged Lonnie Coffman, of Alabama, with possession of an unregistered firearm and carrying a pistol without a license. A bomb squad also recovered 11 Molotov cocktails from Coffman’s truck, according to the affidavit, and Coffman also was carrying two handguns.

Armed - equipped with or carrying a weapon or weapons.

Rioters brought knives, brass knuckles a stun gun and other weapons.

Video plainly shows the mob using all manner of makeshift weapons, including hockey sticks, flagpoles, fire extinguishers and a police shield stolen from an officer.






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« Reply #292 on: April 05, 2021, 02:10:34 PM »
I think the insurrection was a smashing success.  400+ retards now with felonies on their records.   You guys should plan another one.  That way I wont have to run into any of you unless I need someone to ask if I want fries with that at the drive thru.  Yeah, it will be a drain on society to have to foot the bill, but most will just move back in with their parents anyway.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #293 on: April 05, 2021, 02:10:57 PM »
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QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley says Trump ‘groomed’ him and other rioters
Mother of ‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley defends her son and repeats election conspiracy theories
I hope you're smarter than to believe he was a Trump supporter? He's a leftist actor who's purpose was to make Trump supporters look ridiculous.

It's a dog and pony show funk. That was not close to an insurrection. The real issue is the election was stolen with the help of foreigners. That's treason. The perpetrators should all be sentenced to death.

https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/buffalo-guy-trump-supporter-is-actually-a-leftist-agitator/



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« Reply #294 on: April 05, 2021, 02:12:40 PM »
I think the insurrection was a smashing success.  400+ retards now with felonies on their records.   You guys should plan another one.  That way I wont have to run into any of you unless I need someone to ask if I want fries with that at the drive thru.  Yeah, it will be a drain on society to have to foot the bill, but most will just move back in with their parents anyway.
It was not an insurrection. Trump supporters and a cop died. A real insurrection would have been bloody. The January 6th show was a PR stunt by the left.

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« Reply #295 on: April 05, 2021, 02:13:02 PM »
I'd call it a soft steal. There was a concerted, 4 year propaganda campaign against Trump.

Exactly, said the same. Coach's Hammer & Scoreboard or whatever the shit is a fantasy. The election was stolen via censorship and propaganda among other things. Trump could've done something about censorship when he had the chance but he didn't.

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« Reply #296 on: April 05, 2021, 02:14:13 PM »
It was not an insurrection. Trump supporters and a cop died. A real insurrection would have been bloody. The January 6th show was a PR stunt by the left.

Don't try to out troll Coach with the conspiracy theory bullshit.

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« Reply #297 on: April 05, 2021, 02:15:24 PM »
I don't like Strawman. But I voted for him to stay because this is one of the reasons Getbig is valuable. Because it tries to limit censorship. Getbig will die if it censors people like Twitter and Facebook. That's the one main thing it has over those platforms.

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« Reply #298 on: April 05, 2021, 02:18:40 PM »
Don't try to out troll Coach with the conspiracy theory bullshit.
It's a fact. The cops let them in to the building. And there were BLM activists that posed as Trump supporters.

A real insurrection would have seen people enter the building with weapons and with the aim to shoot or stab to kill. An insurrection is not a fucking party!

Zero leftists died on January 6th. It is a scam and you fell for it!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13749423/black-lives-matter-activist-john-sullivan-charged/

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« Reply #299 on: April 05, 2021, 02:22:19 PM »
Exactly, said the same. Coach's Hammer & Scoreboard or whatever the shit is a fantasy. The election was stolen via censorship and propaganda among other things. Trump could've done something about censorship when he had the chance but he didn't.
How is it a fantasy? Have you not seen the videos where Trump's numbers go down and Biden's increases by the same amount on live TV? How is that possible?

It was a soft and hard steal. They tried to steal it via 4 years of anti-Trump propaganda. And then when that did not work and Trump was winning they activated plan b, the hard steal of the election. The fact that courts refused to look at evidence makes the whole argument more valid. How can the courts make a determination without looking at evidence? They are acting on limited information.