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« Reply #775 on: April 15, 2021, 09:01:14 AM »
Post the source of this.

Again, no comment on how the GOP itself has declared there was no theft.

Post up your evidence that the election was legit. Even with him in office now, just by his (I mean his puppet masters) actions you can they have ZERO clue on what to do and I mean fucking ZERO

Here’s one example


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« Reply #776 on: April 15, 2021, 09:14:52 AM »
Post up your evidence that the election was legit. Even with him in office now, just by his (I mean his puppet masters) actions you can they have ZERO clue on what to do and I mean fucking ZERO

Here’s one example

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« Reply #777 on: April 15, 2021, 09:14:59 AM »
Can’t recall Fox (which I watch very little of) Newsmax, OANN or any conservative pundits trying to over throw duly elected President or cheat the election. Even now that Biden is the puppet “President” are they doing it and I guess the CNN guy caught with Project Veritas was just an actor?

are you fucking kidding me

was your TV broken for the last 6 months ?

Faux News is being sued for the very thing you claim you "can't recall" them doing

And of  course their constant LIES contributed to your fellow TRAITORS literally attacking our Capitol in an attempt to over throw a duly elected  President


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« Reply #778 on: April 15, 2021, 09:16:02 AM »
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« Reply #779 on: April 15, 2021, 09:19:34 AM »
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    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

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Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
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"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

Analysis: When COVID-19 vaccines were most scarce, seniors in Florida’s wealthiest counties got them at higher rates


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On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
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Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them.
After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

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Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

More: Florida sues CDC over cruising as timeline to get cruise ships back in US waters remains unclear

But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
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DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
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If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
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Re: Strawman
« Reply #781 on: April 15, 2021, 10:37:09 AM »
    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

COVID dilemma: Yacht clubs, golf courses, gated communities: Florida’s pop-up vaccine clinics raise ethical concerns

Looking to 2024: The GOP presidential primary comes to Trump's doorstep in Florida



Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
AP
"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

Analysis: When COVID-19 vaccines were most scarce, seniors in Florida’s wealthiest counties got them at higher rates


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Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, political allies, over the years
On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
Fitting the candidate profile
Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them.
After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

More: Republican unity? Not so much. Donald Trump goes off-script, hits McConnell, Pence, others

Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

More: Florida sues CDC over cruising as timeline to get cruise ships back in US waters remains unclear

But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
AMY BETH BENNETT/SUN SENTINEL/TNS
DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
ANDREA MELENDEZ/THE NEWS-PRESS/USA TODAY,FLORIDA NETWORK
If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021

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« Reply #782 on: April 15, 2021, 10:54:49 AM »
Post the source you quoted.

STILL WAITING.


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« Reply #783 on: April 15, 2021, 10:55:30 AM »

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Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t


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« Reply #784 on: April 15, 2021, 11:07:28 AM »
Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t



and he's is being sued for HIS LIES...remember?

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #785 on: April 15, 2021, 11:10:27 AM »
and he's is being sued for HIS LIES

Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

Gonna sue or prosecute all of those people as well?

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« Reply #786 on: April 15, 2021, 11:11:33 AM »
Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

so

Why hasn't Trump sued CNN?

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« Reply #787 on: April 15, 2021, 11:17:44 AM »
Yes, still waiting...for anything. Done playing games. You cant come up anything or refute anything. Talk about training or something

Here...all kinds of info on here to refute. Check back in 31/2 hrs after you’ve watched the entire hearing...you won’t



So when asked to post a link to your source, you don't.

Why so scared?   Post your source.   

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« Reply #788 on: April 15, 2021, 11:18:40 AM »
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Plenty more where this came from

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« Reply #789 on: April 15, 2021, 12:02:00 PM »
Anyone can sue anyone.....buuut those affidavits 🤷‍♂️

Gonna sue or prosecute all of those people as well?

Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

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« Reply #790 on: April 15, 2021, 12:10:35 PM »
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

Oh just stop it.  As if Coach were smart enough to come up with an end-game plan.  As evident here and in other threads, he can't even come up with a now-game plan. 

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    Ron DeSantis might already be running for president. Donald Trump could help – and hurt – his plans
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021
PALM BEACH, Fla. – Gathered in the Grand Ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on a hot Saturday night, wealthy Republican donors and Donald Trump backers heard familiar riffs on the value of reopening the economy after COVID-19, the perils of "Big Tech" and "woke corporations," and the shortcomings of Democrats.

And not just from the former president.

Another speaker, who may want to follow in Trump's presidential footsteps, hit the same Trumpian themes: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis' prime speaking slot at last weekend's Republican National Committee retreat is just the latest example of how the 42-year-old governor is becoming the most visible candidate in the "invisible primary" for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

"We have too many people in this party who don’t fight back," DeSantis told the crowd, taking a decidedly Trump-like tone, according to one aide who discussed the speech on condition of anonymity because it was a private event.


As Republicans wait for Trump to decide whether he will run again, the first-term governor of the nation's third-most-populous state is making the kinds of attention-getting moves of a prospective presidential candidate: High-profile speeches, fights over media scrutiny, and state proposals that can appeal to Republicans nationally – and to Trump voters.

DeSantis, an early Trump supporter during his years in Congress, also is drawing notice from the kinds of big-money donors he spoke to Saturday.

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Gov. reopening Florida's economy despite spread
Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida, and banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks as he seeks to reopen the state's economy despite the spread of the coronavirus. (Sept. 25)
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"I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them," said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter.

But when it comes to his national ambitions, DeSantis will have to walk a fine line for at least the next 19 months. He's up for reelection as governor in 2022, and Florida voters may punish DeSantis if they believe he is more interested in running for president than in serving the state. And all the presidential talk is likely to fire up DeSantis' rivals.

"It could ultimately turn out more Democrats than would normally turn out in a midterm election," said Susan MacManus, a political science professor emeritus at the University of South Florida.

DeSantis and his aides have said their focus remains on Florida, and on his reelection bid next year – a test he must pass if he wants to run for president.

And many Republicans doubt DeSantis would run for president if Trump decides to mount another campaign. The two remain friendly, and Trump praised the governor in his speech at Mar-a-Lago Saturday. The next morning, Trump and DeSantis were photographed playing golf together.

Still, DeSantis and other Republicans thinking of running for president must find a way to test the national waters without alienating Trump. That could be a challenge if Trump's popularity wanes in the years ahead.

Said MacManus: "If DeSantis feels like Trump is a liability, what happens?"

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Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, political allies, over the years
On many occasions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has called former president Donald Trump his mentor and has given speeches at Trump rallies
Fitting the candidate profile
Fitting the candidate profile
As the presidential buzz increases, DeSantis supporters are starting to tout what they call a sterling resume.

A history major at Yale, where he captained the baseball team. A teacher at a Georgia prep school for a short time before attending Harvard Law School. Served in the military as a JAG lawyer. A Navy veteran deployed to Iraq.

After a stint in a U.S. attorney's office in Florida, DeSantis ran for Congress in 2012 in a U.S. House district on Florida's northeast coast. Riding the wave of the then-nascent Tea Party, DeSantis had written a 2011 book called "Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama."

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Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based fundraiser and DeSantis supporter
I'm getting calls from people all over the country wanting him to come to their states and do events for them.
After two terms in the House, DeSantis began making plans to run for the U.S. Senate when it appeared that incumbent Marco Rubio wouldn't seek reelection. DeSantis withdrew after Rubio, who lost to Trump in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, decided to run again for the Senate after all.

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Staying in the House, DeSantis became an ardent supporter of Trump, frequently appearing on television to denounce the investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election.

With Trump's support, DeSantis decided to run for governor in 2018. He prevailed in a Republican primary and then won the general election over Democratic candidate and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum – by less than a percentage point after a recount.

DeSantis remembers how close his election was, aides said, which is why he is more focused on his current job than on the presidency.

"This is about '22," said one DeSantis adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the governor's political future. "This is Florida – a landslide in Florida is three points."

COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
COVID-19 response, '60 Minutes' bring visibility 
The next presidential election is, of course, a long way away. But people who may want to run need to start gearing up now, a process of seeking support and name recognition that amounts to a behind-the-scenes primary.


In addition to DeSantis, potential Republican wannabees include people like former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Several attended the weekend retreat in Florida.

Many, perhaps most, of these candidates will wait to see if Trump runs before making any announcements themselves.

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But DeSantis seems to be drawing the most attention because of aggressive COVID-19 policies in Florida – an essential state in an Electoral College victory for any GOP presidential nominee.

DeSantis reopened the state's schools and economy ahead of others and refused to impose a statewide mask mandate, despite criticism from local and federal health officials. Florida's coronavirus rates are comparable with those in other states, though opponents of the governor they call "DeathSantis" say his policies contributed to deaths of more than 34,000 residents.

In late February, DeSantis made a well-received speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando. He touted his decision to reopen Florida's economy early during the pandemic, saying "Florida got it right and the lockdown states got it wrong."

Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a news conference about COVID-19 at Broward Health’s Corporate Office in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
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DeSantis finished second to Trump in a CPAC presidential straw poll – and first when Trump's name was not included on the ballot. The fact the conference was held in his home state no doubt helped DeSantis in the poll, but his showing still drew national political attention.

"As soon as the CPAC poll went public, our phones lit up," Iarossi said.

The COVID-19 response would be a major issue in a presidential race involving DeSantis and will definitely be a topic in his Florida reelection bid next year.

As such, it is drawing intense scrutiny from the media and other politicians.

That includes a "60 Minutes" report alleging the DeSantis administration's distribution of COVID-19 vaccines favored the wealthy over other Floridians, particularly people of color. The report sought to tie the state's vaccine distribution partnership with the Publix grocery store chain to political contributions Publix officials made to DeSantis' 2022 reelection campaign.

DeSantis responded with an attack on the highly rated CBS news program, saying "60 Minutes" failed to interview Democratic supporters of the Publix program and edited his comments at a news conference about how the program was developed.

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DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that.
It's no accident DeSantis spotlighted the negative news report: It rarely hurts a Republican candidate to attack the mainstream media, and it's a good way to attract attention from conservatives.

"DeSantis is building up a huge amount of name ID very fast – CBS helped with that," said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who worked in presidential campaigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

"Republicans hate the media and assume on spec that if a show like '60 Minutes' is attacking someone, that someone must be a good guy."

Since the CPAC speech, DeSantis has proposed new state policies aimed at such Trump-like targets as "cancel culture," "Big Tech," the teaching of critical race theory, and requirements for "vaccine passports" – issues he also touched on at Mar-a-Lago.

Last week, the governor authorized a state lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to end the halt on the cruise industry.

“We don’t believe the federal government has the right to mothball a major industry for over a year based on very little evidence and very little data,” DeSantis said.

Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats ready to hit DeSantis in either race
Democrats said they plan to end DeSantis' presidential dreams at the state level, arguing that his policies benefit wealthy supporters at the expense of everybody else. National Democrats are also targeting DeSantis.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement: " (DeSantis') corrupt and ineffective leadership will forever be a stain, and Floridians will surely remember in 2022."

Nikki Fried, the Florida agriculture commissioner and a possible Democratic candidate for governor next year, tweeted recently that "Governor DeSantis has consistently lied about COVID-19 data and withheld information from the public."

Given his fight at home, aides said, don't expect DeSantis to engage in another pre-presidential campaign activity: visiting other states to stump for local Republican candidates.

President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
President Donald Trump arrives at Southwest Florida International Airport and deplaned at PrivateSky. Governor Ron DeSantis and Fort Myers Mayor Randy Henderson were among the small group welcoming the President.
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If DeSantis wins reelection, however, Republicans will be watching to see if DeSantis makes the circuit of early contest states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Should Trump take a pass on running in 2024, DeSantis probably won't be the only Floridian in the race. Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is also said to be pondering a presidential bid. Local Republicans also wonder if Rubio still has the presidential bug.

Every election cycle, someone emerges as the hot candidate of the moment, and most do not make it, party members pointed out. The history of Republican primaries is replete with bright new stars that flamed out, from businessman Steve Forbes in 1996 to Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2012 to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in 2016.

On the other hand, people who have done the kinds of things DeSantis is doing this early have gone all the way, including governors who became presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

And any two-term governor of a pivotal state like Florida is almost automatically a candidate for president, or vice-president.

"The question is how you connect with voters," said Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who has been writing about politics since the 1980 presidential election.

At this point, however, several Republicans pointed out, no one knows for sure if Trump is running, or DeSantis, or any of the others.

"Three years is an eternity in politics," the DeSantis adviser noted.

Published 4:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 12:25 PM EDT Apr. 13, 2021



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Re: Strawman
« Reply #792 on: April 15, 2021, 12:14:53 PM »
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

I asked the same earlier in the thread.

I would like for Coach to give some projections of the future and possible strategies. What is the game plan?

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« Reply #793 on: April 15, 2021, 12:16:39 PM »
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    desantis will run for president in 2024 and donald junior will be his running mate, if they win, watch for desantis to get killaryied and junior will be president. how's that for a conspiracy theory. ::)
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« Reply #794 on: April 15, 2021, 12:39:00 PM »
I asked the same earlier in the thread.

I would like for Coach to give some projections of the future and possible strategies. What is the game plan?

The only way that this could’ve played itself out is if on January 6 Trump would’ve went on TV and said: “The election was stolen. What is happening now at the Capitol is just and right. I encourage all loyal citizens throughout the United States to stand up for their rights and demand that their elected officials be called to account.” Instead, he condemned the rioters and ordered that “law and order” be restored. At that point, the game was over and Trump was exposed for what he is, a wealthy guy who preferred the status quo to whatever would have come after he “gave the order” that might have sparked a revolution.  Now, the best so-called conservatives can hope for is a drawn out rear-guard action that slows the inevitable march of statism, globalism and multi-nationalism that is upon them although anything short of historical gains in the ‘22 midterm elections will make it start to look like a disorganized rout.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #795 on: April 15, 2021, 01:02:31 PM »
Coach - If the election was fixed then whoever fixed it must be pretty powerful. What chance do you stand against them? Is Candace Owens, et al., going to be able to take down the cabal that rigged the US presidential election? What’s your end game here? It seems like the game is over.

It's already started with Georgia's voter reform and a few other states as well, mostly Red states) IMO, has to be state by state reform following in Georgia's footsteps or similar. The left (as you can see from Strawmans reaction to it mimicking what Abrams and the left saying it's "Racist") because it actually does make it harder to cheat the vote as well as several states getting judgements to examine the Dominion machines before they get wiped clean (unless they wiped them out right after the "election"

Then there's HR1 that had already passed in the house but hopefully will be DOA when it finally hit's the senate. It's a disaster bill that only benefits the left

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1

And now you have the attempt to expand the SCOTUS (been 9 since like 1859) to 13 but from what I understand even if they tried they would need a total of 60 votes and as of now wouldn't even get 50.

Another thing is, the RINO's in the GOP have to go but no matter who's in Democrat's or Republican's there has to be term limits. These fuckers that have been in for 20,30, 40 and FORTY SEVEN YEARS haven't a clue what's going on in this country, fuck, they don't even pay attention to their constituents.

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Re: Strawman
« Reply #796 on: April 15, 2021, 01:04:15 PM »
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« Reply #797 on: April 15, 2021, 01:11:31 PM »
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« Reply #798 on: April 15, 2021, 01:44:31 PM »
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« Reply #799 on: April 15, 2021, 02:04:15 PM »
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