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« Reply #2325 on: July 01, 2021, 02:14:24 PM »
    some much for pervy joe. ::)
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    some much for pervy joe. ::)


You missed the memo about the age thing I guess.  ::)

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« Reply #2327 on: July 01, 2021, 05:59:28 PM »
    some much for pervy joe. ::)

At least those are adults

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« Reply #2328 on: July 01, 2021, 07:45:54 PM »
    some much for pervy joe. ::)

Don't be this ignorant, Funk.  You know very well what I mean by this.  I despise libs. Biden is a TURDLE of a lib.  Go ahead.  Go there.  This ain't the real world my young friend.  You aren't stirring the  pot or the shit.  You are just being ignorant on this subject.  Do as you desire.  This shit is not worthy of respect. 

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« Reply #2329 on: July 02, 2021, 05:08:13 AM »
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Trump the predator
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006.
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006. Photograph: Patrick McMullan/Getty Images
A new book uncovers fresh allegations of the president’s inappropriate sexual behaviour

Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, additional reporting by Lucy Osborne
Sat 19 Oct 2019 04.58 EDT

We all know the story by now. In 2005, Donald Trump was caught on tape bragging that his fame allowed him to sexually assault women. In 2016, as he was running for president, that recording, the so-called Access Hollywood tape, was made public, resulting in a stream of women coming forward and alleging that Trump had groped or otherwise sexually assaulted them. He was elected anyway; the women’s stories didn’t seem to matter. But they should.

If we have understood one thing in the two years since actor Alyssa Milano tweeted #MeToo, sending the then 11-year-old phrase viral, it is that when women are not listened to, men in positions of power are left free to abuse their authority. When the accused abuser is the president of the United States, those allegations and how they are handled matter all the more. Thanks to his bully pulpit, Trump’s words and actions resonate far beyond the deeds themselves.

And then there is the question of collective responsibility. If we avert our eyes from the allegations of Trump’s abuse because we find it distasteful, we tacitly endorse his behaviour. When we dismiss or ignore his objectification and denigration of women, we legitimise it. Leaving these attitudes and actions unchecked allows them to proliferate.

When the recording was released, Trump brushed it off as “locker-room banter”. A short time later he denied having had affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. We, however, conducted more than 100 interviews in the course of researching our book All the President’s Women and found that the language and the affairs were not mere aberrations. Since his campaign, Trump has already faced allegations from nearly two dozen women. Our book reveals another 43 allegations, bringing the total to 67 accusations of inappropriate behaviour, including 26 instances of unwanted sexual contact. In short, far from being occasional or accidental, his alleged misconduct with women was regular and widespread. We found that Trump repeatedly and systematically engaged in aggressive sexual pursuit of women over many decades and that his alleged behaviour followed discernible patterns. One of those was a predilection for young models.

All of a sudden she heard someone shout: 'Put your robes on, here he comes!'
In the early 1980s, NaKina Carr was working in New York for Oscar de la Renta and was backstage in the models’ dressing room at one of his fashion shows when she heard Trump’s name mentioned for the first time. She was getting ready when all of a sudden she heard someone shout: “Put your robes on, here he comes!”

At 21, the Texas native was already on the older side for a catwalk model, who generally start working when they are in their teens, but she was new to New York and had no idea what was going on. “I didn’t know what they were talking about … but suddenly everyone threw on their dressing robes,” Carr said, speaking publicly about her memories of Trump for the first time. Carr asked another woman what was wrong, and she pointed to a man across the room. “She said: ‘He’s the money man. He can do whatever he wants … Unless you’re a gold digger, you avoid him at all costs.’”

Trump walked in as if he owned the place, according to Carr’s account, with a pregnant Ivana, his first wife, trailing behind him. “He threw his arms wide open and said: ‘OK now ladies, drop ’em,’” Carr said. “The one thing I’ll always remember is the dejected look on Ivana’s face in the dressing room. I thought how horrible, that he would treat her in this way.”

As Trump strode around the dressing room, Carr concealed herself behind a pillar, incredulous that someone would be so crude. “The other girls were obviously afraid of him, like they knew he meant it and it wasn’t a joke,” she said. The model was later assured that she was not Trump’s type – at the time the rumours among modelling insiders was that he preferred younger women. “If you’re over 21 you don’t have to worry,” Carr said she was told.

Those rumours appear to be backed up by other accounts of Trump during that era. Model Barbara Pilling was not yet 18 when her booker took her to a party a few days after her arrival in New York, in the summer of 1989. Trump was also in attendance. Pilling didn’t know who the real estate developer was, but she noticed him looking at her. “I could see him eyeing me up and watching me,” she said. She claims that once he caught her gaze, Trump started talking to her. “I remember him saying: ‘Oh, how old are you?’ And I said 17, and he said: ‘That’s just great; you’re not too old, not too young.’”

Pilling said Trump tried to make small talk with her for a while, but his gaze kept veering to her chest. He asked her if she liked where she was living and said he knew great places she could stay if she didn’t. Trump offered to show her the city and to take her to dinner. He told her she was gorgeous, like a dark-haired Marilyn Monroe, and asked her if she would ever consider going blond. “I was starting to feel uncomfortable,” Pilling remembered. “It’s not a nice feeling for a young girl to have an older man making advances on her.” Another model standing nearby whispered to Pilling that Trump clearly liked her, and explained who he was. “I wasn’t impressed by it. I mean, I was only 17.”

From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017.
From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017. Photograph: Andrew Kelly/Reuters
Pilling eventually excused herself to go to the restroom, where yet another woman was talking about the developer. “She said he grabbed her ass and kept going for her and was all hands,” Pilling said. Between that and her own conversation with him, Pilling was so disturbed that she left the party without saying goodbye to anyone.

When the Australian Shayna Love was living in New York in 1991, she says models were encouraged to attend dinners that became occasions for “men to pick up girls”. “You’d go to these things and look pretty, give the men attention,” Love said. She was 16 at the time and part of the Elite model agency’s “New Faces” campaign. “We might as well have been called ‘fresh meat’.” Love recalled a dinner with Trump. “This time it was a private area, a big table and lots of girls – I’d say around 10 to 15 of us, all between the ages of 14 and 18,” she said. “It was just us models, Trump and [Elite founder] John [Casablancas]. We were all underage, but we were offered drinks.” Love said she went home early, but other girls stayed.

Trump was often seen with Casablancas. He hosted events for Elite’s modelling contests at his New York properties and provided lodging for the contestants. Eli Nessa had just turned 17 and was representing Norway during one such Elite competition hosted by Trump’s hotel in the early 90s. In addition to the events for the competition, the women were expected to attend several nights of parties. “There were all these older men,” she said. “It was so seedy.” Nessa was accompanied by her agent, but other women appeared to be alone. “I remember this Italian girl, extremely naive, who couldn’t speak any English. She was easy prey. They were all around her,” Nessa said. “We were a bunch of kids, just put there with all these older men.”

Heather Braden was also an Elite model and, in the late 90s, alleges that she was instructed to go to a party in a mansion on one of the islands off Miami Beach. Trump was going to be there, she was told. Braden went with a couple of friends who were also models. When they arrived, the first thing they saw was a table manned by two security guards. The models were handed papers. “I presume they were NDAs for us to sign,” Braden recalled. They ignored the papers and walked into a big room where there were about 50 models. In her mid-20s, Braden was one of the oldest women there. Many were from eastern Europe and didn’t speak English, so Braden and her friends kept to themselves.

They found the party odd. There was no DJ, no food, and no bartender – though there were drinks, Braden remembers. “It was very awkward from the beginning,” she said years later. “Fifty females in this room, no real hosts. Very unusual. And then down this large staircase, in front of all of us, there was Donald Trump and behind him there were three actors, 40s, maybe 50s. I don’t want to name them because they’re all still around.” The actors were famous. “They came down the stairs and spread out like sharks among the girls,” who had broken up into little clusters throughout the room. “Obviously, some of these younger girls were starstruck.”

John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991.
John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991. Photograph: Ron Galella/Getty Images
Braden said she had been in the industry long enough to understand what was happening. “Clearly, we were there for one reason. We were just pieces of meat.” At a typical fashion industry party, there would be a mix of people, men of different ages, male models, men in the business. Not here. Braden believed that this party had been set up specifically for Trump and the three actors. “This was not eye candy,” she said. “Sometimes you’re brought to these big parties like that, but this was different.”

From a couch in the farthest corner of the room, Braden and her friends watched as each man made his way through the knots of models. They started with the standard opening lines, asking the women their names and where they were from. “Five minutes later – this is what they did to me: ‘You want to come upstairs?’ It was anything from, ‘You want to see the rest of the house?’ to ‘Do you want to see the bedroom? The view?’ Or ‘Do you want to partake in party favours?’ That was the terminology,” Braden said. “Sometimes there’d be a couple of girls that would go up together.” Braden said Trump approached her at the party, and chuckled when she turned him down.

In addition to Casablancas, whose marriage ended after he had an affair with a 16-year-old Stephanie Seymour and who later married another one of his models when she was 17, Trump’s social circle in the early 90s included Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender who allegedly ran a sex ring of underage girls. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor and in July 2019 was charged with two federal counts of sex trafficking before being found dead in his prison cell in an apparent suicide in August. Trump once said of Epstein: “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Eventually Trump found an easier way to surround himself with models: he started his own agency. Trump Model Management launched in 1999, the same year Trump divorced Marla Maples. When Leonardo DiCaprio – another man with a taste for women who walk the runway – heard about Trump’s new venture, he approvingly dubbed it “one-stop date shopping”.

'Clearly, we were there for one reason … We were just pieces of meat'
Now Trump had the models coming to him, and it is alleged that he introduced them to his sons. Ksenia Maximova said she worked for Trump Model Management in 2003 and 2004, and again a few years later. In 2004, when the Russian-British model was 18, her agent summoned her to a meeting in Trump Tower. “He said: ‘Oh, we’re just going to meet the owner of the agency,’” she said, speaking publicly for the first time about the encounter. “And then he told me to get all dressed up, properly, because I was quite tomboyish, so he did tell me to put a nice dress on and some high heels and stuff.”

Maximova complied, and she and her agent took the elevator to Trump’s offices. The developer was at his desk with Donald Jr, then 26, standing behind him, although they weren’t introduced so Maximova didn’t know this was Trump’s son. She settled on a chair and Trump and her agent began talking. “I was just kind of sitting there,” she said. Trump asked her a few questions but for the most part didn’t address her. Donald Jr was generally silent, too. “It was all really awkward because it was like: ‘Let the grownups do the talking,’ kind of thing,” she said. “It was just like I didn’t matter and he didn’t matter. I just thought he was some aide or something.”

Maximova was made to feel so inconsequential that she began wondering why she had been brought there in the first place. “I didn’t really get introduced much. It was more like just to actually show me, visually. It wasn’t like anyone was interested in my personality or anything like that, so I was like: ‘What’s the point in this?’” She asked her agent as much when they were back in the elevator on their way down to the street. “We’ve heard that [Trump’s son] is maybe looking for a girlfriend now,” Maximova claims her agent told her. “That’s when I got really angry and told him off and asked him to never, ever, please, do this kind of thing again, especially without my consent.”

But even before he put the Trump brand on young models, he had found another business that ensured he would have a steady supply of beautiful young women in his life. In 1996, he purchased the Miss Universe Organisation, which also operates the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants. “It’s a very, very great entertainment format,” he said at the time. “It gets very high ratings, it’s doing very well and we’ll make it even better.” Trump’s improvement plan? “I made sure the women were really beautiful because they were getting a little bit not as beautiful. They had a person who was extremely proud that a number of women had become doctors. And I wasn’t interested,” he said on the Howard Stern radio show. “I made the bikinis smaller and the heels higher,” he told the late-night TV host David Letterman in 2010.

Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012.
Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012. Photograph: AP
From the very beginning, Trump exercised what he saw as the owner’s prerogative. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” Trump told Stern in 2005. “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

At times, Trump’s gaze was more targeted. Samantha Holvey told CNN that when she was 20 and competing in the 2006 Miss USA pageant, Trump made pointed visual inspections of all the contestants. “He would step in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people,” she said. “You know when a gross guy at the bar is checking you out? It’s that feeling.” Being ogled by Trump made Holvey feel “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life”. She and her fellow contestants were also invited to private parties filled with “old, rich, drunk guys ogling all over us”, Holvey said.

These women are just a sample of those who have come forward with accusations against Trump; new allegations continue to emerge. And while Trump is the most visible of the influential men accused of predatory behaviour, he is far from an outlier, as even a cursory glance at recent headlines illustrates. Jeffrey Epstein. Harvey Weinstein. R Kelly. Hundreds of men were brought down in the wake of #MeToo as women began to share their stories.

Still, these reckonings, while important, are not the ultimate solution, because the individual men are not themselves the core of the problem; that runs much deeper. These abuses took place over the course of decades and were far from secret. All too often, institutions sacrificed accusers to protect themselves and the coteries that ran them. If lasting and significant change is to take place, it will require a significant overhaul of the systems and societal attitudes that allowed that to happen.

 Edited and extracted from All The President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator by Barry Levine & Monique El-Faizy, published in the UK on 23 October by Trapeze (£20) – to order a copy go to guardianbookshop,com – and in the US on 22 October by Hachette ($29). It is published in Australia on 23 October by Hachette ($32.99). Also available as an audiobook. Lucy Osborne, whose reporting contributed to the book, continues to investigate Trump and women. Her email is lucy.osborne@theguardian.com

                               
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« Reply #2330 on: July 02, 2021, 05:17:21 AM »
She and her turkey neck wish Trump would inspect her now.

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« Reply #2331 on: July 02, 2021, 05:33:46 AM »
She and her turkey neck wish Trump would inspect her now.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  she really did go down hill quick.
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Why Did Gold’s Gym Become So Popular?
   by Conor Heffernan
APRIL 19, 2021
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In 1965, former bodybuilder and US Marine, Joe Gold opened up a gym in Venice California as a place for himself and his friends to train. Charging $60 a year, Joe kept costs down by making his own gym equipment, skimping on the heating and recruiting every bodybuilder worth his salt as a member.

Unbeknownst to Joe, his simple gym would eventually become an institution in the fitness world.


Why open a gym?
Since the early 1950s muscle men had flocked to California to join the growing bodybuilding community at Venice Beach. Back then the Santa Monica Pier severed as the go to gym for aspiring muscle men.

Crudely decked out on a wooden platform lifters competed over free weights, rings, dip and chin up bars. It wasn’t unknown for legends such like Steve Reeves to train in Santa Monica. In 1959 however, things changed.

Following allegations of sexual misconduct by a small cohort of bodybuilders, a decision was taken by the Santa Monica City Council to pull weights from the beach. Bodybuilders were seen as an anti-social group and the decision to force them from the beaches and into small indoor gyms hardly helped matters.

Bodybuilders begrudgingly made their way into nearby gyms like the Dungeon, Wilshire or Muscle Beach Gym. There was one bodybuilder who wasn’t content with the selection of gyms on offer.

In 1965, Joe Gold decided to open his own training facility for himself and his former Santa Monica compatriots. A man well versed in the comings and goings of the real estate market, Gold by then had amassed a tidy number of beachfront properties for a small sum. Joe soon decided that one of his properties on Pacific Avenue would serve as his new gym.

joe-gold-cropJoe Gold in his prime

Gold had chosen his location well. Santa Monica’s lifters were Joe’s first pool of members and when rumors began to emerge around Venice that Gold was opening up a serious training gym, lifters could hardly contain their excitement. Dick Tyler writing in August 1965 being one such example;

Here’s big news to all the BIG men reading this column. Well-known California muscle man, Joe Gold will soon be opening a gym at 1006 Pacific Ave. in Venice. For those of you who now know, Venice is just a stone’s throw from famed Muscle Beach. Joe, who owns some real estate hereabouts, is building the gym from the ground up. Nothing “made over” for Joe. Now this is going to be a gym for men. No fancy rugs or chrome – just plain old-fashioned weights and the greatest apparatus you ever saw.

How’s this for dumbbells? The gym will have two complete sets of dumbbells going from 10 lbs. to 80lbs. in five pound jumps. From there they’ll go to 150 lbs. by tens. Already Joe is having equipment made to order for the specialists. Joe is a Weider man and you can bet your bottom dollar that this is going to be a hot bed of training for Southern California strong men. Co-managing will be ole Zabo Koszewski himself. How can they miss? Those of you not already here in “Sunsville” better make Gold’s gym a tourist attraction.

Tyler’s predictions that the gym would be a hot bed of training proved to be true. Within five years Gold’s boasted a veritable who’s who of the bodybuilding scene with legends like Zane, Arnold and Franco all regular attendees but as the gym became increasingly popular, its owner became increasingly disgruntled. The gym was a money pit.

In 1970, Joe Gold sold the gym for $50,000 and became a merchant marine.

The Birth of Mecca
With Joe Gold now out at high seas, Gold’s Gym fell into the hands of Dave Saxe and Bud Danitz who ran the gym for a little over two years before selling it on to Ken Sprague. Sprague had been training at Golds since 1969 and as owner he would oversee its first expansion.

Almost immediately after buying the gym Sprague began sponsoring bodybuilding contests, which regularly drew upwards of 5,000 fans. Sensing the need to attract greater and greater audience numbers, Sprague would create circus spectacles where half-clad bodybuilders would rid atop bull elephants to the music of brass bands. Amidst all this chaos, the Gold’s Gym logo would be brandished.

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As luck would have it, it was the logo that helped Golds spread across California. In 1973, Ric Drasin created a new logo for Gold’s Gym on the back of a napkin. The logo of a bald brooding lifter, caught Sprague’s attention, who instantly began putting them on Gold’s Gym T-shirts. Every the promoter, Sprague would have bodybuilders wear them during photo ops and on the beach. The strategy paid off too. At one point Sprague was selling t-shirts faster than he could mail them out.

goldsgymlogoricdrasinDra sin’s Gold’s Logo was an instant hit

By 1975, Sprague had cemented Gold’s position as THE place to train for bodybuilders. It was a mecca for men of strength and a golden age for bodybuilding. Al Antuck musings in Ironman magazine showed as much

Why are some restaurants and other establishments the “in” places to go?…Whatever it is, Gold’s Gym on Pacific Avenue, one block from the beach in Venice, California has it. Gold’s attracts many of the top California physique stars — Schwarzenegger, Zane, Draper, Columbu, Bill Grant, Birdsong, to name a few….

Gold’s is a bodybuilders’ gym. Here you won’t find business men types who work out just to stay in shape. Most members are bodybuilders who work hard to gain bulk, density and symmetry, and they work hard with minimum time for kibitzing or goofing-off.

The idea that Gold’s was some form of Bodybuilding Mecca was born but there was something the sport still lacked. Mainstream acceptance.

Pumping Iron and Going Hollywood
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In 1974, freelance photographer George Butler and his partner, novelist Charles Gaines, called Sprague about the possibility of filming some of the bodybuilders in California. The two men had been responsible for Pumping Iron  a book on the subculture of bodybuilding published that same year, which had met with financial success. The clear interest in bodybuilding from the general public encouraged the two men their work to the silver screen.

Despite the success of Pumping Iron the book, Gaines and Butler failed to secure any real form of funding for a movie. Studios were doubtful that a documentary on a niche subculture would garner any interest whatsoever. Not that the lack of support deterred the two men. Keeping costs to the bear minimum, Butler and Gaines managed to raise enough money for the necessary equipment and a contract for the star Arnold Schwarzenegger ($50,000 for the Austrian Oak’s services). Luckily for the aspiring film makers, they managed to secure a free venue for the majority of their filming, none other than Gold’s Gym. There the two men would film legends like Arnold, Columbu, Waller and countless others lift weights with unparallelled intensity.

Pumping-IronStill from Pumping Iron

The movie itself was shot over the course of a month and detailed the epic bodybuilding battle between Arnold and Lou Ferrigno for the 1975 Mr. Universe and Mr. Olympia titles. Aside from the constant financial worry the two men faced, they also had to deal with massaging the egos of the periphery lifters. Whilst Arnold was earning $50,000, the rest were given paltry contracts, something that irked the men in Golds. Every now and then, scenes would have to be re-shot after a disgruntled bodybuilder deliberately stepped into frame. Eventually however, deals were struck and by the end of 1975, Butler had all but wrapped up shooting the movie.

All he had to show for his work was a single print of the movie and no means of promoting it. For two years, the movie sat in the back offices of studios in what film buffs refer to as development hell. Frustrated that his movie would never see the light of day, Butler rented out space at the Whitney Museum in New York and had Arnold and Ken Waller pose on rotating discs to raise money. To increase interest in the event, Butler arranged for Candice Bergen to be a celebrity commentator and made noise about the fact that Arnold, then a Golden Glove winner for his performance in Stay Hunger would be posing. The theme of the exhibition was living art and surprisingly, the art critics loved it. Butler had only expected 500 people to show up. Instead he got 5,000 and more money than he could fit in the registers. The publicity stunt worked, and allowed Butler to finish production on his movie.

In 1977 Pumping Iron finally hit US scenes and although fewer than one million Americans ended up seeing it that year, a buzz had been created. Soon after the movie’s release stars such as Clint Eastwood and Muhammad Ali began to show up at Golds looking to train at the Mecca of bodybuilding. Hollywood and popular culture became hooked on muscle.

The following years saw Arnold become a movie star with flicks such as Conan, Ferrigno become the Hulk and mainstream actors like Stallone, Weathers and Eastwood display chiseled physiques in their movies. Sprague’s Golds suddenly began to feature in fashion magazines and even a piece on 60 minutes. During this time, dues at Golds reached $200, a far cry from the $60 Joe Gold had charged in the beginning.

Gold’s in the 1980s
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By the 1980s bodybuilding and fitness in general had entered the mainstream, sadly Sprague would not be part of it. In the late 1970s following a personal tragedy, Sprague sold Golds on to Pete Grymkowski, Tim Kimber and Ed Connors. The three men would help expand Golds’ influence across the US.

In 1980 Connors commissioned the first ever licensed Gold’s Gym in San Francisco in 1980 and began spawning out licensees across the US. By 1981, there were over 5,000 Golds in the United States. Connors appears to have had a keen eye for the fitness industry, opening up the first group fitness class in Golds in 1981, about a decade before such movements became popular.

The 1980s were a period of sustained growth for the club, both domestically and abroad. In 1985 the gym went international, opening up its first branch in Canada to the joy of Canadian lifters everywhere. Unsurprisingly, the growing expansion of the gym franchise meant that the Gold brand began to pop up everywhere in American popular culture. The iconic Drasin designed t-shirts was worn by Carl Weathers in an SNL skit and by numerous celebrity figures in other TV shows and films during this time.

The Nineties
By the time the 1980s rolled into the 90s, Golds membership established itself as a status symbol, with some scholars arguing that it became the McDonalds of the fitness community. From Janet Jackson to Michael Jordan, the Golds brand was pictured with a plethora of celebrities. By 1993 the gym franchises had over one million members and Gold’s trainers were often presented as experts in the field appearing in local and regional magazines with the latest fitness tips.

In 1996, chains were opened in Europe and Asia, including Moscow. Less than 5 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Gold’s Gym, an American institution had found it’s way into the heart of Russia.

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Gold’s Gym became a worldwide phenomena

The continued success of the chain did have its downsides however. Catering to larger and larger demographics meant that Golds was forced to move with the winds of the fitness industry. The releative re-birth of the cardio age saw Golds shift its focus more towards treadmills, steppers and group classes. Free weights were still there, but now they took a secondary place to everything else the gym had to offer. During the 90s, the franchise would be bought by Brockway Moran for an undisclosed fee. The private equity firm would spend five years acquiring other gyms and branching out the chain even further.

2000 to Present Day
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In 2004, Gold’s was bought by TRT Holdings for over $150 million. TRT Holdings slowly but surely helped Gold’s evolve even further into a cross-sector company that happened to specialize in fitness.

In 2004, the company created its own Gold’s Gym Fitness Institute to serve as a think tank on critical health and fitness issues. The same year also saw Gold’s branch out and become a national fitness sponsor of the American Diabetes Association’s Tour de Cure. In 2009, Gold’s released a Cardio workout on the Nintendo Wii. All of which serves to demonstrate how Gold’s has moved away from being solely a gym into a multi-agency machine.

TRT never slowed down on Gold’s expansion either. At the time of writing the gym franchise boasts 400 locations in 37 U.S. states and 20 other countries with over three million members worldwide. It’s a far cry from the cold shack opened up by Joe Gold for his buddies in the ’60s.

 

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                                  just trying to get coach's thread to 100 pages which will be a milestone for him, and at the same time finally purging myself of the dreaded TDS disease, when this thread reaches the magic 100 milestone it will be gone. hopefully BDS won't kick in.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #2337 on: July 04, 2021, 05:29:42 AM »
Straw it’s Independence Day.    Free yourself from the mess and the clutter and chaos.

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« Reply #2338 on: July 04, 2021, 07:23:29 AM »
I for one don't understand why he is  doing so.
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
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« Reply #2339 on: July 04, 2021, 10:20:51 AM »
   
Trump the predator
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006.
Donald Trump attends The Miss Universe Guide to Beauty book launch at Trump Tower, New York, in 2006. Photograph: Patrick McMullan/Getty Images
A new book uncovers fresh allegations of the president’s inappropriate sexual behaviour

Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, additional reporting by Lucy Osborne
Sat 19 Oct 2019 04.58 EDT

We all know the story by now. In 2005, Donald Trump was caught on tape bragging that his fame allowed him to sexually assault women. In 2016, as he was running for president, that recording, the so-called Access Hollywood tape, was made public, resulting in a stream of women coming forward and alleging that Trump had groped or otherwise sexually assaulted them. He was elected anyway; the women’s stories didn’t seem to matter. But they should.

If we have understood one thing in the two years since actor Alyssa Milano tweeted #MeToo, sending the then 11-year-old phrase viral, it is that when women are not listened to, men in positions of power are left free to abuse their authority. When the accused abuser is the president of the United States, those allegations and how they are handled matter all the more. Thanks to his bully pulpit, Trump’s words and actions resonate far beyond the deeds themselves.

And then there is the question of collective responsibility. If we avert our eyes from the allegations of Trump’s abuse because we find it distasteful, we tacitly endorse his behaviour. When we dismiss or ignore his objectification and denigration of women, we legitimise it. Leaving these attitudes and actions unchecked allows them to proliferate.

When the recording was released, Trump brushed it off as “locker-room banter”. A short time later he denied having had affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. We, however, conducted more than 100 interviews in the course of researching our book All the President’s Women and found that the language and the affairs were not mere aberrations. Since his campaign, Trump has already faced allegations from nearly two dozen women. Our book reveals another 43 allegations, bringing the total to 67 accusations of inappropriate behaviour, including 26 instances of unwanted sexual contact. In short, far from being occasional or accidental, his alleged misconduct with women was regular and widespread. We found that Trump repeatedly and systematically engaged in aggressive sexual pursuit of women over many decades and that his alleged behaviour followed discernible patterns. One of those was a predilection for young models.

All of a sudden she heard someone shout: 'Put your robes on, here he comes!'
In the early 1980s, NaKina Carr was working in New York for Oscar de la Renta and was backstage in the models’ dressing room at one of his fashion shows when she heard Trump’s name mentioned for the first time. She was getting ready when all of a sudden she heard someone shout: “Put your robes on, here he comes!”

At 21, the Texas native was already on the older side for a catwalk model, who generally start working when they are in their teens, but she was new to New York and had no idea what was going on. “I didn’t know what they were talking about … but suddenly everyone threw on their dressing robes,” Carr said, speaking publicly about her memories of Trump for the first time. Carr asked another woman what was wrong, and she pointed to a man across the room. “She said: ‘He’s the money man. He can do whatever he wants … Unless you’re a gold digger, you avoid him at all costs.’”

Trump walked in as if he owned the place, according to Carr’s account, with a pregnant Ivana, his first wife, trailing behind him. “He threw his arms wide open and said: ‘OK now ladies, drop ’em,’” Carr said. “The one thing I’ll always remember is the dejected look on Ivana’s face in the dressing room. I thought how horrible, that he would treat her in this way.”

As Trump strode around the dressing room, Carr concealed herself behind a pillar, incredulous that someone would be so crude. “The other girls were obviously afraid of him, like they knew he meant it and it wasn’t a joke,” she said. The model was later assured that she was not Trump’s type – at the time the rumours among modelling insiders was that he preferred younger women. “If you’re over 21 you don’t have to worry,” Carr said she was told.

Those rumours appear to be backed up by other accounts of Trump during that era. Model Barbara Pilling was not yet 18 when her booker took her to a party a few days after her arrival in New York, in the summer of 1989. Trump was also in attendance. Pilling didn’t know who the real estate developer was, but she noticed him looking at her. “I could see him eyeing me up and watching me,” she said. She claims that once he caught her gaze, Trump started talking to her. “I remember him saying: ‘Oh, how old are you?’ And I said 17, and he said: ‘That’s just great; you’re not too old, not too young.’”

Pilling said Trump tried to make small talk with her for a while, but his gaze kept veering to her chest. He asked her if she liked where she was living and said he knew great places she could stay if she didn’t. Trump offered to show her the city and to take her to dinner. He told her she was gorgeous, like a dark-haired Marilyn Monroe, and asked her if she would ever consider going blond. “I was starting to feel uncomfortable,” Pilling remembered. “It’s not a nice feeling for a young girl to have an older man making advances on her.” Another model standing nearby whispered to Pilling that Trump clearly liked her, and explained who he was. “I wasn’t impressed by it. I mean, I was only 17.”

From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017.
From left: Rachel Crooks, Jessica Leeds and Samantha Holvey speak at news conference in New York, 2017. Photograph: Andrew Kelly/Reuters
Pilling eventually excused herself to go to the restroom, where yet another woman was talking about the developer. “She said he grabbed her ass and kept going for her and was all hands,” Pilling said. Between that and her own conversation with him, Pilling was so disturbed that she left the party without saying goodbye to anyone.

When the Australian Shayna Love was living in New York in 1991, she says models were encouraged to attend dinners that became occasions for “men to pick up girls”. “You’d go to these things and look pretty, give the men attention,” Love said. She was 16 at the time and part of the Elite model agency’s “New Faces” campaign. “We might as well have been called ‘fresh meat’.” Love recalled a dinner with Trump. “This time it was a private area, a big table and lots of girls – I’d say around 10 to 15 of us, all between the ages of 14 and 18,” she said. “It was just us models, Trump and [Elite founder] John [Casablancas]. We were all underage, but we were offered drinks.” Love said she went home early, but other girls stayed.

Trump was often seen with Casablancas. He hosted events for Elite’s modelling contests at his New York properties and provided lodging for the contestants. Eli Nessa had just turned 17 and was representing Norway during one such Elite competition hosted by Trump’s hotel in the early 90s. In addition to the events for the competition, the women were expected to attend several nights of parties. “There were all these older men,” she said. “It was so seedy.” Nessa was accompanied by her agent, but other women appeared to be alone. “I remember this Italian girl, extremely naive, who couldn’t speak any English. She was easy prey. They were all around her,” Nessa said. “We were a bunch of kids, just put there with all these older men.”

Heather Braden was also an Elite model and, in the late 90s, alleges that she was instructed to go to a party in a mansion on one of the islands off Miami Beach. Trump was going to be there, she was told. Braden went with a couple of friends who were also models. When they arrived, the first thing they saw was a table manned by two security guards. The models were handed papers. “I presume they were NDAs for us to sign,” Braden recalled. They ignored the papers and walked into a big room where there were about 50 models. In her mid-20s, Braden was one of the oldest women there. Many were from eastern Europe and didn’t speak English, so Braden and her friends kept to themselves.

They found the party odd. There was no DJ, no food, and no bartender – though there were drinks, Braden remembers. “It was very awkward from the beginning,” she said years later. “Fifty females in this room, no real hosts. Very unusual. And then down this large staircase, in front of all of us, there was Donald Trump and behind him there were three actors, 40s, maybe 50s. I don’t want to name them because they’re all still around.” The actors were famous. “They came down the stairs and spread out like sharks among the girls,” who had broken up into little clusters throughout the room. “Obviously, some of these younger girls were starstruck.”

John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991.
John Casablancas and Trump at the Elite Model Agency Look of the Year awards in 1991. Photograph: Ron Galella/Getty Images
Braden said she had been in the industry long enough to understand what was happening. “Clearly, we were there for one reason. We were just pieces of meat.” At a typical fashion industry party, there would be a mix of people, men of different ages, male models, men in the business. Not here. Braden believed that this party had been set up specifically for Trump and the three actors. “This was not eye candy,” she said. “Sometimes you’re brought to these big parties like that, but this was different.”

From a couch in the farthest corner of the room, Braden and her friends watched as each man made his way through the knots of models. They started with the standard opening lines, asking the women their names and where they were from. “Five minutes later – this is what they did to me: ‘You want to come upstairs?’ It was anything from, ‘You want to see the rest of the house?’ to ‘Do you want to see the bedroom? The view?’ Or ‘Do you want to partake in party favours?’ That was the terminology,” Braden said. “Sometimes there’d be a couple of girls that would go up together.” Braden said Trump approached her at the party, and chuckled when she turned him down.

In addition to Casablancas, whose marriage ended after he had an affair with a 16-year-old Stephanie Seymour and who later married another one of his models when she was 17, Trump’s social circle in the early 90s included Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender who allegedly ran a sex ring of underage girls. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor and in July 2019 was charged with two federal counts of sex trafficking before being found dead in his prison cell in an apparent suicide in August. Trump once said of Epstein: “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Eventually Trump found an easier way to surround himself with models: he started his own agency. Trump Model Management launched in 1999, the same year Trump divorced Marla Maples. When Leonardo DiCaprio – another man with a taste for women who walk the runway – heard about Trump’s new venture, he approvingly dubbed it “one-stop date shopping”.

'Clearly, we were there for one reason … We were just pieces of meat'
Now Trump had the models coming to him, and it is alleged that he introduced them to his sons. Ksenia Maximova said she worked for Trump Model Management in 2003 and 2004, and again a few years later. In 2004, when the Russian-British model was 18, her agent summoned her to a meeting in Trump Tower. “He said: ‘Oh, we’re just going to meet the owner of the agency,’” she said, speaking publicly for the first time about the encounter. “And then he told me to get all dressed up, properly, because I was quite tomboyish, so he did tell me to put a nice dress on and some high heels and stuff.”

Maximova complied, and she and her agent took the elevator to Trump’s offices. The developer was at his desk with Donald Jr, then 26, standing behind him, although they weren’t introduced so Maximova didn’t know this was Trump’s son. She settled on a chair and Trump and her agent began talking. “I was just kind of sitting there,” she said. Trump asked her a few questions but for the most part didn’t address her. Donald Jr was generally silent, too. “It was all really awkward because it was like: ‘Let the grownups do the talking,’ kind of thing,” she said. “It was just like I didn’t matter and he didn’t matter. I just thought he was some aide or something.”

Maximova was made to feel so inconsequential that she began wondering why she had been brought there in the first place. “I didn’t really get introduced much. It was more like just to actually show me, visually. It wasn’t like anyone was interested in my personality or anything like that, so I was like: ‘What’s the point in this?’” She asked her agent as much when they were back in the elevator on their way down to the street. “We’ve heard that [Trump’s son] is maybe looking for a girlfriend now,” Maximova claims her agent told her. “That’s when I got really angry and told him off and asked him to never, ever, please, do this kind of thing again, especially without my consent.”

But even before he put the Trump brand on young models, he had found another business that ensured he would have a steady supply of beautiful young women in his life. In 1996, he purchased the Miss Universe Organisation, which also operates the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants. “It’s a very, very great entertainment format,” he said at the time. “It gets very high ratings, it’s doing very well and we’ll make it even better.” Trump’s improvement plan? “I made sure the women were really beautiful because they were getting a little bit not as beautiful. They had a person who was extremely proud that a number of women had become doctors. And I wasn’t interested,” he said on the Howard Stern radio show. “I made the bikinis smaller and the heels higher,” he told the late-night TV host David Letterman in 2010.

Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012.
Trump addresses the contestants in the Miss USA beauty pageant in 2012. Photograph: AP
From the very beginning, Trump exercised what he saw as the owner’s prerogative. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” Trump told Stern in 2005. “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

At times, Trump’s gaze was more targeted. Samantha Holvey told CNN that when she was 20 and competing in the 2006 Miss USA pageant, Trump made pointed visual inspections of all the contestants. “He would step in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people,” she said. “You know when a gross guy at the bar is checking you out? It’s that feeling.” Being ogled by Trump made Holvey feel “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life”. She and her fellow contestants were also invited to private parties filled with “old, rich, drunk guys ogling all over us”, Holvey said.

These women are just a sample of those who have come forward with accusations against Trump; new allegations continue to emerge. And while Trump is the most visible of the influential men accused of predatory behaviour, he is far from an outlier, as even a cursory glance at recent headlines illustrates. Jeffrey Epstein. Harvey Weinstein. R Kelly. Hundreds of men were brought down in the wake of #MeToo as women began to share their stories.

Still, these reckonings, while important, are not the ultimate solution, because the individual men are not themselves the core of the problem; that runs much deeper. These abuses took place over the course of decades and were far from secret. All too often, institutions sacrificed accusers to protect themselves and the coteries that ran them. If lasting and significant change is to take place, it will require a significant overhaul of the systems and societal attitudes that allowed that to happen.

 Edited and extracted from All The President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator by Barry Levine & Monique El-Faizy, published in the UK on 23 October by Trapeze (£20) – to order a copy go to guardianbookshop,com – and in the US on 22 October by Hachette ($29). It is published in Australia on 23 October by Hachette ($32.99). Also available as an audiobook. Lucy Osborne, whose reporting contributed to the book, continues to investigate Trump and women. Her email is lucy.osborne@theguardian.com

                               


You do realize that EVERY accusation against Trump has been debunked, right? Btw, no one reads your long ass posts especially when you post up a CNN video🙄

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« Reply #2340 on: July 04, 2021, 10:27:50 AM »
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
         
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« Reply #2341 on: July 04, 2021, 11:12:07 AM »
Happy 4th and have a great day Funk.

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« Reply #2342 on: July 04, 2021, 08:41:09 PM »
Dementia Joe says:

"Happy 4th of Junteen, where little girls sit on his lap, and out goes his peen, he sniffs their hair while twisting his knob, he runs that outfit over there, that guy named "Bob".

He strokes and pokes til' his wrist goes numb, ole Perv Joe tries to make young Dinah-Mo Hum. He raped his daughter in the shower, like Prime enjoying an hour on the Tower of Power.
Ole Joe and Hunter, kid raping felons, hero's to the libturdz, kids make their dummies a swellin'.
Brain-dead libs,  ::)

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« Reply #2343 on: July 04, 2021, 10:57:53 PM »
You do realize that EVERY accusation against Trump has been debunked, right? Btw, no one reads your long ass posts especially when you post up a CNN video🙄


it seems you are admitting you didn't read all the accusations and just posted that they had all been debunked. It's not that it's uncommon, it's just that rarely does anyone admit they don't read the accusations before dismissing them like you did

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« Reply #2344 on: July 05, 2021, 02:46:03 AM »


How is Commander-in- Chief doin' in Afghanistan  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #2345 on: July 05, 2021, 10:32:58 AM »

it seems you are admitting you didn't read all the accusations and just posted that they had all been debunked. It's not that it's uncommon, it's just that rarely does anyone admit they don't read the accusations before dismissing them like you did
;D ;D ;D  good point everything that requires reading or  analysis is put off as fake news.
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« Reply #2346 on: July 05, 2021, 10:36:05 AM »
It's his TDS. No matter the topic, he has to go back and promote the media hysteria that follows Trump. He has nothing good to say about his candidate or the political climate of violence his side has created and encouraged, so he deflects into the standard "but Trump said...." bullshit. ::)
             
   
   
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« Reply #2347 on: July 05, 2021, 10:39:09 AM »
Happy 4th and have a great day Funk.
           
    hope you had a good one too.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #2348 on: July 05, 2021, 10:44:34 AM »
Rioters accused of erasing content from social media, phones
BY JACQUES BILLEAUD ASSOCIATED PRESS
JULY 04, 2021 09:26 PM
FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo people record as Capitol police officers push back violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump U.S. Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File)
FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo people record as Capitol police officers push back violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump U.S. Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File) JOSE LUIS MAGANA AP

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They flaunted their participation in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol on social media and then, apparently realizing they were in legal trouble, rushed to delete evidence of it, authorities say. Now their attempts to cover up their role in the deadly siege are likely to come back to haunt them in court.

An Associated Press review of court records has found that at least 49 defendants are accused of trying to erase incriminating photos, videos and texts from phones or social media accounts documenting their conduct as a pro-Donald Trump mob stormed Congress and briefly interrupted the certification of Democrat Joe Biden’s election victory.

Experts say the efforts to scrub the social media accounts reveal a desperate willingness to manipulate evidence once these people realized they were in hot water. And, they say, it can serve as powerful proof of people’s consciousness of guilt and can make it harder to negotiate plea deals and seek leniency at sentencing.

“It makes them look tricky, makes them look sneaky,” said Gabriel J. Chin, who teaches criminal law at the University of California, Davis.

One such defendant is James Breheny, a member of the Oath Keepers extremist group, who bragged in texts to others about being inside the Capitol during the insurrection, authorities say. An associate instructed Breheny, in an encrypted message two days after the riot, to “delete all pictures, messages and get a new phone,” according to court documents.

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That same day, the FBI said, Breheny shut down his Facebook account, where he had photos that he taken during the riot and complained the government had grown tyrannical. “The People’s Duty is to replace that Government with one they agree with,” Breheny wrote on Facebook on Jan. 6 in an exchange about the riot. “I’m all ears. What’s our options???”

Breheney’s lawyer, Harley Breite, said his client never obstructed the riot investigation or destroyed evidence, and that Breheny didn’t know when he shut down account that his content would be considered evidence.

Breite rejected the notion that Breheny might have been able to recognize, in the days immediately after Jan. 6 when the riot dominated news coverage, that the attack was a serious situation that could put Breheny's liberty at risk.

“You can’t delete evidence if you don’t know you are being charged with anything,” Breite said.

Other defendants who have not been accused of destroying evidence still engaged in exchanges with others about deleting content, according to court documents.

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The FBI said one woman who posted video and comments showing she was inside the Capitol during the attack later decided not to restore her new phone with her iCloud content — a move that authorities suspect was aimed at preventing them from uncovering the material.

In another case, authorities say screenshots from a North Carolina man’s deleted Facebook posts contradicted his claim during an interview with an FBI agent that he didn’t intend on disrupting the Electoral College certification.

Erasing digital content isn’t as easy as deleting content from phones, removing social media posts or shutting down accounts. Investigators have been able to retrieve the digital content by requesting it from social media companies, even after accounts are shut down.

Posts made on Facebook, Instagram and other social media platforms are recoverable for a certain period of time, and authorities routinely ask those companies to preserve the records until they get court orders to view the posts, said Adam Scott Wandt, a public policy professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who trains law enforcement on cyber-based investigations.

Authorities also have other avenues for investigating whether someone has tried to delete evidence.


Even when a person removes content from an account, authorities may still get access to it if it had been backed up on a cloud server. People who aren’t involved in a crime yet were sent incriminating videos or photos may end up forwarding them to investigators. Also, metadata embedded in digital content can show whether it has been modified or deleted.

“You can’t do it,” said Joel Hirschhorn, a criminal defense lawyer in Miami who is not involved in Capitol riot cases. “The metadata will do them in every time.”

Only a handful of the more than 500 people across the U.S. who have been arrested in the riot have actually been charged with tampering for deleting incriminating material from their phones or Facebook accounts.

They include several defendants in the sweeping case against members and associates of the Oath Keepers extremist group, who are accused of conspiring to block the certification of the vote. In one instance, a defendant instructed another to “make sure that all signal comms about the op has been deleted and burned,” authorities say.

But even if it does not result in more charges, deleting evidence will make it difficult for those defendants to get much benefit at sentencing for accepting responsibility for their actions, said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School.


Some lawyers might argue their clients removed the content to lessen the social impact that the attack had on their families and show they do not support what had occurred during the riot. But she said that argument has limits.

“The words ‘self-serving’ will come to mind,” Levenson said. “That’s what the prosecutors will argue — you removed it because all of a sudden, you have to face the consequences of your actions.”

Matthew Mark Wood, who acknowledged deleting content from his phone and Facebook account that showed presence in the Capitol during the riot, told an FBI agent that he did not intend on disrupting the Electoral College certification.

But investigators say screenshots of two of his deleted Facebook posts tell a different story.

In the posts, Wood reveled in rioters sending “those politicians running” and declared that he had stood up against a tyrannical government in the face of a stolen election, the FBI said in court records. “When diplomacy doesn’t work and your message has gone undelivered, it shouldn’t surprise you when we revolt,” Wood wrote. His lawyer did not return a call seeking comment.


Even though she is not accused of deleting content that showed she was inside the Capitol during the riot, one defendant told her father that she was not going to restore her new phone with her iCloud backup about three weeks after the riot, the FBI said.

“Stay off the clouds!" the father warned his daughter, according to authorities. "They are how they are screwing with us.”

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« Reply #2349 on: July 05, 2021, 12:16:25 PM »
Arizona GOP Hit With Lawsuit Exposing Phony Election ‘Audit’
By Caleb Newton -July 5, 2021
Republicans in the Arizona state Senate have now been sued by the state’s largest newspaper in connection to the sham, so-called “audit” that they have been overseeing in Maricopa County, Arizona, which includes Phoenix and where Joe Biden was victorious last November. The newspaper — The Arizona Republic — is seeking financial and communication records connected to the audit, which it says members of the public should be able to access under laws regarding public records. Besides Republican leaders, the lawsuit also targets Cyber Ninjas, the company that Arizona state Senate leaders tasked with conducting the audit despite its total lack of experience in election auditing.




Attorney David Bodney, who is representing the newspaper, commented as follows:

‘ARIZONA LAW ENTITLES THE PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW THIS AUDIT IS BEING CONDUCTED AND FUNDED. AND THE ARIZONA PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DOES NOT PERMIT THE SENATE TO PLAY ‘HIDE THE BALL’ BY DELEGATING CORE RESPONSIBILITIES TO A THIRD PARTY LIKE CYBER NINJAS AND CONCEALING RECORDS OF GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES AND PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN CYBER NINJAS’ FILES.’



The lawsuit itself adds the following:

‘THE ARIZONA SENATE’S AUDIT OF MARICOPA COUNTY BALLOTS IS A MATTER OF THE MOST URGENT PUBLIC CONCERN. NOTHING IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY THAN THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR ELECTIONS. DEFENDANTS THEMSELVES HAVE STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN VOTING AND ELECTIONS AS JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE AUDIT, AND HAVE PLEDGED TRANSPARENCY IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT. BUT THE PUBLIC CANNOT PROPERLY EVALUATE THE CONDUCT OF AND FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT WITHOUT PROMPT AND FULL ACCESS TO THE VERY PUBLIC RECORDS THAT DEFENDANTS ARE UNLAWFULLY WITHHOLDING.’




There have been serious, documented issues with the procedures used for the Maricopa audit, and more broadly, the debacle has also proceeded under clearly biased pretenses. Despite the lack of evidence, Cyber Ninjas founder Doug Logan even narrated a recent web documentary claiming that systematic election fraud was present in last year’s presidential race. Audit workers, meanwhile, were at one point looking for bamboo fibers among the election materials on the basis of the bonkers conspiracy theory that fraudulent ballots may have been shipped in from Asia. If the so-called auditors are sufficiently disconnected from reality to allow for a search for bamboo fibers in the first place, then who’s to say that they wouldn’t be inclined to come up with sham “evidence” for other nonsense? Their final report, whenever it emerges, is not going to be remotely credible. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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