Coronavirus - Italy - DO NOT underestimate this! Warning!

[JustPlaneJane]

Never liked Italians, they always travel in packs and are annoyingly loud

It would be a lot better if they were quiet, well mannered, and polite like urban African Americans.

[TonyAlva]

Unlikely. We've never met.

 I'm calling "shenanigans" on this statement

[JustPlaneJane]

I'm calling "shenanigans" on this statement

But....are you sexual ?

[pamith]

I believe everything happens for a reason, I believe Italy is going through a revival, a religious revival, thanks to the corona virus

[friedchickendinner]

Death rate in italy now 6,6%

"In Bergamo, the worst-affected province in Italy with 1,815 cases and 142 victims, Corriere della Sera reported that the church of Ognissanti has been transformed into a huge mortuary chamber, with at least 40 coffins with corpses waiting to be cremated."

"Until last Thursday, the crematorium - the only one in the province - still worked normal hours, but the municipality has ordered that it must work 24 hours a day.

But even it is not possible to keep pace with the terrible mortality of the virus: 146 people in five days."

[fredrollon]

The latest offical Coronavirus figures, in South Korea. They are as accurate and comprehensive, as you're likely to get.
 Scroll down for Table 2 ,which shows the distribution of cases by sex and age groups and the fatality rate for each group.

https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366557&tag=&nPage=1

The overall fatality rate is 0.92% , but it's 9.51% for 80 and above and 5.33% for age 70-79.
Doing a bit of calculation 53/788 x 100%  or 6.72% is the fatality rate for everyone aged 70+ for the disease.

It's 1.38% for the 60-69 age group and 0.38% for the 50-59 age group.

It's not really been a threat, for children and adults below the age of 50, so far.

[French]

It's mainly small villages, most are old and so the rate is higher

[friedchickendinner]

Doesn't everybody still live with their parents and grandparents in Italy, no wonder it spreads

[Army of One]

The latest offical Coronavirus figures, in South Korea. They are as accurate and comprehensive, as you're likely to get.
 Scroll down for Table 2 ,which shows the distribution of cases by sex and age groups and the fatality rate for each group.

https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366557&tag=&nPage=1

The ooverall fatality rate is 0.92% , but it's 9.51% for 80 and above and 5.33% for age 70-79.
Doing a bit of calculation 53/788 x 100%  or 6.72% is the fatality rate for everyone aged 70+ for the disease.

It's 1.38% for the 60-69 age group and 0.38% for the 50-59 age group.

It's not really been a threat, for children and adults below the age of 50, so far.

Cant really judge, south korea is doing something no other country can really do, test everyone and monitor most of them before symptoms even start, they also have the best healthcare in the world.

[SOMEPARTS]

Doesn't everybody still live with their parents and grandparents in Italy, no wonder it spreads

Momma-mia, poppa-pia, corona-via.

[honest]

Cant really judge, south korea is doing something no other country can really do, test everyone and monitor most of them before symptoms even start, they also have the best healthcare in the world.

theres a cure check the other thread, i dont like repeating myself, thats the point of difference here and in Japan.

The worlds not ending.

[French]

you don't realize..

[harmankardon1]

It's mainly small villages, most are old and so the rate is higher

Yes this^

Large number of aged population in Italy. Highest number of over 65's in Europe.

[Thin Lizzy]

The latest offical Coronavirus figures, in South Korea. They are as accurate and comprehensive, as you're likely to get.
 Scroll down for Table 2 ,which shows the distribution of cases by sex and age groups and the fatality rate for each group.

https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366557&tag=&nPage=1

The overall fatality rate is 0.92% , but it's 9.51% for 80 and above and 5.33% for age 70-79.
Doing a bit of calculation 53/788 x 100%  or 6.72% is the fatality rate for everyone aged 70+ for the disease.

It's 1.38% for the 60-69 age group and 0.38% for the 50-59 age group.

It's not really been a threat, for children and adults below the age of 50, so far.

Japan was in front of this way ahead of the United States. The Tokyo marathon was canceled in the middle of February. The Japanese are also very germphobic. Not uncommon to see people wearing dust masks at public events way before this thing started.


Abe eyes no virus emergency declaration, Tokyo Olympics as planned

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/9cfe9f88fe32-urgent-abe-says-currently-no-need-to-declare-emergency-over-virus.html

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Saturday he sees no immediate need to declare a state of emergency and that Japan will make preparations to hold the Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics as scheduled despite the global new coronavirus pandemic.

[friedchickendinner]

It will be pretty hard to hold the olympics as planned without any athletes.

[falco]

Thank you Lifter. Here in Portugal we are at the begining of the crisis. 500 infected, 1 dead. Numbers are increasing by the day.
 Spain has a rampant infection spread also: 149 deaths in one day, 2000 infected.

[Bevo]

Japan was in front of this way ahead of the United States. The Tokyo marathon was canceled in the middle of February. The Japanese are also very germphobic. Not uncommon to see people wearing dust masks at public events way before this thing started.


Abe eyes no virus emergency declaration, Tokyo Olympics as planned

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/9cfe9f88fe32-urgent-abe-says-currently-no-need-to-declare-emergency-over-virus.html

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Saturday he sees no immediate need to declare a state of emergency and that Japan will make preparations to hold the Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics as scheduled despite the global new coronavirus pandemic.

South Korea and Japan on top of things, making Italy and other “European” countries look like shit and not well managed 

[Bevo]

It will be pretty hard to hold the olympics as planned without any athletes.

We can send bbers over there

[friedchickendinner]

So much for the "European Union" it looks to me like it's every country for itself 

[Dave D]

theres a cure check the other thread, i dont like repeating myself, thats the point of difference here and in Japan.

The worlds not ending.

Army is not swayed by non fear mongering stats.

[pamith]

My Italian brothers and sisters, stay strong in your faith, God is with you, believe in Jesus, you can survive!

[gib]

Wow. Very sorry for these deaths

Can I ask, were any of those you knew who died smokers or already in poor health?

[pamith]

It would be a lot better if they were quiet, well mannered, and polite like urban African Americans.

Bro...

[BB]

Nothing we already didn't know, but regular flu strains seem to have higher mortality rates in Italy vs other countries, so this was bound to cause havoc -

"In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%."

"More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period."

"Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly."

"We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17, respectively, using the Goldstein index."

"The observed excess of deaths is not completely unexpected, given the high number of fragile very old subjects living in Italy."

Link to  study abstract - www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285 .

[friedchickendinner]

Here are the bodies.

Italian newspaper, 9th february: 1,5 page of obituaries.

Same newspaper, 13th march: 10 pages of obituaries.