Really not even self trt because even in my early 40s I don’t test low enough to get it under normal circumstances. I just run two 10 week cycles per year of low dose test but still much higher than average to stay ahead of the average joe. I never exceed 350 mg in total test taken per week, everything kept pretty modest. When done I roll out 4 weeks of clomid and tamoxifen and boom I’m done.