more...Owen can post his own if he wants.
which one has bad form? I have perfect form...for the specific movement. If you don't know what we were doing, you can't comment on the form. For example, Owen's pic shows me doing ultra-wide curls all the way up above my head...good form. Bad form for "normal" curls.
which one has bad form? I have perfect form...for the specific movement. If you don't know what we were doing, you can't comment on the form. For example, Owen's pic shows me doing ultra-wide curls all the way up above my head...good form. Bad form for "normal" curls.
ahh...those were press-downs with an ultra-wide arc.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN NATURAL... I JUST TRAIN AND LIVE LIFE WITH A MENTALITY OF A WARRIOR THAT I COULD DIE TOMORROW SO I BETTER WIN THE WAR ON THE WEIGHT ROOM TODAY...
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN NATURAL... I JUST TRAIN AND LIVE LIFE WITH A MENTALITY OF A WARRIOR THAT I COULD DIE TOMORROW SO I BETTER WIN THE WAR ON THE WEIGHT ROOM TODAY...
I'm there with you bro. F*CK THOSE WEIGHTS! NO MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my main backgrund is mixed martial arts and i just use the same intensity when i lift weights twice a week or so and garreath has been a real soldier he has literally lost over 35 pounds in less than 3 months training hardcore with me along with his strict diet program... he has the biggest HEART FOR A BODYBUILDER THAT I'VE EVER KNOWN MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN LAST A MONTH WITH ME!He has a pretty damn big head, too. :o
actually his elbows were still tucked to his ribb cage and forward so that the shoulders wont help him this like after 100 reps or something!
sir mixalot: do you mix cum and vodka?
i love bending a barbell over and showing it who's boss, right in front of everyone!!
Damn straight. I have pledged a jihad on dumbells and it's a fricken genocide on the 45's!
ha ha yes! i carry a few 45's and an olympic bar in the back of my car, just in case i want to pull over and do a few sets.
LOL
Haven't these pics taught you anything?
All you need is a few wrist weights or soup cans. Then curl those babies for an hour.
That's set 1.
i don't have an asian ladyboy to spot me though.
LOL... YOU GUYS ARE FUNNY!!! WERE ABOUT TO ANNIHILATE OUR LEGS TONIGHT WITH MILOS WISH US LUCK AND HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND TO ALL MY BODYBUILDING BROTHAS!! =)
First of all I want to give a credit when credit is due...guys did PHENOMENAL JOB last night and I am proud of them.
I gave them the options and asked if they want easier version (biceps-triceps giant sets...alternating exercises - one for biceps and than one for triceps...) or they want to try harder version - biceps separately and than triceps separately...
They chose HARDER version...and this is only second time they train with me.
I also gave them the options of different levels of difficulty...ranging from low to super high...and they just smiled and said: GO AHEAD hit us with your best shot...So, I've decided to give them almost identical workout that I trained Silvio and Hide few hours before...
Anyway, they did surprisingly good - and I take my hat off to both of them - THEY HAVE A HEART - that's for sure.
Tonight they are coming for legs ;D ;D ;D ;D...and this is just a "little" different story...I hope they'll survive the workout...and I hope they are not planning to walk this weekend - as they will not be able to...
Holy fuck, Garraeth looks improved!!!
We need more hardcore threads like this. I just got through crushing my back extra hard after seeing this thread a while ago.
In case anyone is wondering, I did the empty 45 bar for rows, 480.2 reps in true Milos fashion. ;D
BOO-YA!
Hardcore! I hope you don't plan on swatting at flies this weekend, because you will not be able to...
Mishko....Knny you in for a free seminar?
I know I've given you shit in the past......
but damn good thread.
You guys both look good in those pics. That's the first time I saw a pic of you garrath, I don't understand people calling you a fat ass, I don't see it.Sir Mix a Lot looks natural to me, he's got some muscle but nothing about him looks enhanced.
Sir mix a lot, arms are looking big brother, but I still have a real hard time believing your natural. Either way, props to the both of you.
Sir Mix a Lot looks natural to me, he's got some muscle but nothing about him looks enhanced.
garreath, i'm gonna praise you and bash you for a second.i think Garraeth's arms look pretty good, very big but in a natural kind of way.
praise: for deciding to get in shape and picking a guy who knows what he's doing to get you there.
bash: for your synthol use. see how awkward your arms look man? i mean even if you had 12 inch biceps before, they'd look better than they do now. do you still plan on doing more? and does synthol stay there forever or does it dissipate eventually?
i think Garraeth's arms look pretty good, very big but in a natural kind of way.
maybe it just looks worse to me cuz i know it's there. either way, he's done a great job slimming down. 30 more lbs or so and he'll be an animal.i don't think he needs to lose 30 more, that's a lot, you have to remember he's 6'2" if he loses 30 more he'll be 215 or so, he'll be a string bean if he does that.
i don't think he needs to lose 30 more, that's a lot, you have to remember he's 6'2" if he loses 30 more he'll be 215 or so, he'll be a string bean if he does that.
...or how about Silvio...Also almost 20 pounds heavier...and NOT MUCH DIFFERENT than contest time - don't you think?
To those of you who cast constant controversy of Milos and his routines... I have some pics of Garraeth and I getting our arms Blasted to another Dimension last night!!!
garreath, i'm gonna praise you and bash you for a second.
praise: for deciding to get in shape and picking a guy who knows what he's doing to get you there.
bash: for your synthol use. see how awkward your arms look man? i mean even if you had 12 inch biceps before, they'd look better than they do now. do you still plan on doing more? and does synthol stay there forever or does it dissipate eventually?
Sir Mix a Lot looks natural to me, he's got some muscle but nothing about him looks enhanced.Absolutely not. Look at his tits. These are gynos. If you hands up and look like this(Round fat around your tits), undoubtly that is gyno.
...or how about Silvio...Also almost 20 pounds heavier...and NOT MUCH DIFFERENT than contest time - don't you think?Agreed. Awsome. Almost same condition. Hide also.
wierd looking biceps on garraeth. synthol?Nah. Just he is bressed with biceps peak.
TA said that garraeth was a fat lazy twat but he doesn't look very overweight to me. ???i heard garreth is an arab too ???
Synthol is pretty well always a bad idea.
I'm there with you bro. F*CK THOSE WEIGHTS! NO MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely not. Look at his tits. These are gynos. If you hands up and look like this(Round fat around your tits), undoubtly that is gyno.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=138114.0;attach=154827;image)
He is not natural... he has lil' Deca / Test titties that would show as big massive bitch tits if his body fat would be in the single digits...Exactly.With this body fat,already you can see them. So if his body fat go down, they will appear more clearly
Too bad about the Synthol in garraeth's biceps. They will never look natural again.what the hell are you talking about? they look natural to me, you couldn't tell there was ever anything in there.
what the hell are you talking about? they look natural to me, you couldn't tell there was ever anything in there.Look at his left bicep in particular in the above pic. The shape is "classic" Synthol look. That Milos' protege Binais Begovic has the exact same shape too.
oh brother. Did you just get the internet or something?
haha cool, are you the dood in the blue shirt?
Absolutely not. Look at his tits. These are gynos. If you hands up and look like this(Round fat around your tits), undoubtly that is gyno.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=138114.0;attach=154827;image)
That's what I was thinking too, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now comes the next subject, do you think he can bench press 605lbs? He claims he can, all while being a natural...Bench press is a misterious staff. He dont look like as you imply,but who knows....
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111450.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=111450.0)
I have never taken any Deca or Test or whatever in my entire life, but nearly a year and a half ago when Gaspari Nutrition came out with M1T (it was considered naturally occuring prohormone and available legally over the counter then and my supplement store recommended that I really should give it a try) I got really good results with that as my bench went from 495 to 605 in 4 months and put on about twenty 20 pounds on my body weight, but I got carried away with it and took it for 4 months straight and my nipples did get sore after a while but I got such tremendous gains on my strength from it that I got carried away with it being able to do the whole stack of 300pounds on the lat pulldowns 15 to 20 reps with ease. But after I was able to make that goal of benching 605 I was done with as my life also went upside down during that time as I was facing an impending divorce so my life went to hell and I got really sick for a while due to black mold in my lungs that took me nearly a year to recover as doctors and all their drugs and inhalers could not help me as my lungs dropped to 62% capacity and was in really bad shape for over a year out of my life and just now getting back into the swing of things completely weening myself out of all those Doctor Prescribed treatments along with crazy inhalers like Advair and whatever junk they experimented with on me that even after them telling me to triple the doses it just destroyed my body even more as it has stuff in there that suppresses your natural hormones. After months painfully weening myself out of those drugs even though the doctors was against it... I was able to became pretty healthy again doing what I know best which is lots of heavy and hard training and taking NOXPLODE which helped me at least get my intensity back at the gym and probably 80 percent of the shape I was then. And now I can still do 500pounds on my bench these days.
This is a pic of my lat spread back then of course I just finished doing 25 reps of the whole stack of lat pulldowns on my 3rd set.
I have never taken any Deca or Test or whatever in my entire life, but nearly a year and a half ago when .So. A question.
M1T is an Adrosteneodione after all or somethings so it is Androgenic. That's why I was suppose to stop taking it after a month or so but in the first month I put on nearly 50 pounds on my bench press with it with a bounce off my chest but could do 495 at a 3second pause at the chest and explode up in perfect form so I knew that if I were able to eventually bounce off 605 raw or without a bench shirt I could have competitively lifted at least 550 at a more strict form for powerlifting competition, but that was all I pretty much did was bench pressing and layoff at the squats so my squats was still at less than 500 with perfect form. But I just wanted to become good at bench pressing because I get much more of a rush with so much weight bouncing off of my chest.Ah finaly. Then its a steroid isnt it?
I wish you all a wonderful weekend!
milos, what is it with the super pumped upper arms on your guys? makes their chest and back look small.
I have never taken any Deca or Test or whatever in my entire life, but nearly a year and a half ago when Gaspari Nutrition came out with M1T (it was considered naturally occuring prohormone and available legally over the counter then and my supplement store recommended that I really should give it a try) I got really good results with that as my bench went from 495 to 605 in 4 months and put on about twenty 20 pounds on my body weight, but I got carried away with it and took it for 4 months straight and my nipples did get sore after a while but I got such tremendous gains on my strength from it that I got carried away with it being able to do the whole stack of 300pounds on the lat pulldowns 15 to 20 reps with ease. But after I was able to make that goal of benching 605 I was done with as my life also went upside down during that time as I was facing an impending divorce so my life went to hell and I got really sick for a while due to black mold in my lungs that took me nearly a year to recover as doctors and all their drugs and inhalers could not help me as my lungs dropped to 62% capacity and was in really bad shape for over a year out of my life and just now getting back into the swing of things completely weening myself out of all those Doctor Prescribed treatments along with crazy inhalers like Advair and whatever junk they experimented with on me that even after them telling me to triple the doses it just destroyed my body even more as it has stuff in there that suppresses your natural hormones. After months painfully weening myself out of those drugs even though the doctors was against it... I was able to became pretty healthy again doing what I know best which is lots of heavy and hard training and taking NOXPLODE which helped me at least get my intensity back at the gym and probably 80 percent of the shape I was then. And now I can still do 500pounds on my bench these days.
This is a pic of my lat spread back then of course I just finished doing 25 reps of the whole stack of lat pulldowns on my 3rd set.
Photos are taken after ARM training...thus - arms are exploding full...Same happens with CHEST, BACK, DELTS, LEGS...when hey train those body parts...Thank you for very useful info. My enemy ;D
By now - everyone knows that I am giving SPECIAL DRINKS to my guys...We have PRE, DURING and POST workout drinks...
Concept that many still don't consider worth trying...but I have been doing for years:
Insure available nutrients (only what is needed) and make sure you have potent driver - to store those nutrients exactly where you want them to go...
Have all that when matters the most - and YOU'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS...
FLEX magazine (Silvio on the cover) explains my theory... but here it is again (for my getbig friends ;D - and the enemies :'():
- Considering that human body has approximately 5 liters of blood...and knowing that 15-20 % of that blood circulates through skeletal muscles at rest...What do you guys think will happen when we train intensely...(or beyond intensely - my giant sets approach)...when circulation is enhanced 5 times over the resting (consider 5X5 liters of blood pumping through your body...but this time up to 80% (instead of 15-20 ;)) goes to and through your muscles?
- Than think what could happen if you have readily available NUTRIENTS OF CHOICE (my drinks are designed that way) that are rushed with 5 fold increased blood volume to working cells (guess which cells am I talking about? Yes muscle cells of the muscle being trained...and contrary to straight sets theory - with continuous GIANT SETS for the same muscles - it is prolonged oversaturation of fibers and cells of the trained muscle groups...)
- Yes, I do potantiate the strongest anabolic hormone...STORAGE HORMONE (Insulin) who's primarily job IS to drive nutrients into the cells and "store" them...
And think what will happen if you do have sufficient amount of nutrients BEFORE, DURING (drinking in between set - thus supplying necessary aminos, glucose...etc...to the working muscle) and AFTER....
YES - it works...it works UNBELIEVABLE...and EVERY TIME...and WITH EVERYONE (natural athletes actually benefit MORE with this concept as their body will be super sensitive and due to major disadvantage to "not so natural" athletes they MUST consider ALL anabolic and anti-catabolic methods they can use to create maximal anabolic potential which would in fact create muscle hypertrophy some would challenge as "drug induced"...
My two best examples are my two dear friends from Malaysia - Samad Sazali and Teck Liaw Leong - drug free athletes for life that have accomplished PHENOMENAL LEVEL OF MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT...as these photos show... ;)
Those guys are in great condition!
Milos is your "during workout" drink available to the public yet?
are you gonna compete this year milos?
Almost...
You want to try it?
Come to the gym and I'll mix it for you...(all my AJINOPURE aminos are in my office) that way maybe you can actually talk to me...and read me better.
I see that you mentioned - you train in my gym???
Photos are taken after ARM training...thus - arms are exploding full...Same happens with CHEST, BACK, DELTS, LEGS...when hey train those body parts...
By now - everyone knows that I am giving SPECIAL DRINKS to my guys...We have PRE, DURING and POST workout drinks...
Concept that many still don't consider worth trying...but I have been doing for years:
Insure available nutrients (only what is needed) and make sure you have potent driver - to store those nutrients exactly where you want them to go...
Have all that when matters the most - and YOU'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS...
FLEX magazine (Silvio on the cover) explains my theory... but here it is again (for my getbig friends ;D - and the enemies :'():
- Considering that human body has approximately 5 liters of blood...and knowing that 15-20 % of that blood circulates through skeletal muscles at rest...What do you guys think will happen when we train intensely...(or beyond intensely - my giant sets approach)...when circulation is enhanced 5 times over the resting (consider 5X5 liters of blood pumping through your body...but this time up to 80% (instead of 15-20 ;)) goes to and through your muscles?
- Than think what could happen if you have readily available NUTRIENTS OF CHOICE (my drinks are designed that way) that are rushed with 5 fold increased blood volume to working cells (guess which cells am I talking about? Yes muscle cells of the muscle being trained...and contrary to straight sets theory - with continuous GIANT SETS for the same muscles - it is prolonged oversaturation of fibers and cells of the trained muscle groups...)
- Yes, I do potantiate the strongest anabolic hormone...STORAGE HORMONE (Insulin) who's primarily job IS to drive nutrients into the cells and "store" them...
And think what will happen if you do have sufficient amount of nutrients BEFORE, DURING (drinking in between set - thus supplying necessary aminos, glucose...etc...to the working muscle) and AFTER....
YES - it works...it works UNBELIEVABLE...and EVERY TIME...and WITH EVERYONE (natural athletes actually benefit MORE with this concept as their body will be super sensitive and due to major disadvantage to "not so natural" athletes they MUST consider ALL anabolic and anti-catabolic methods they can use to create maximal anabolic potential which would in fact create muscle hypertrophy some would challenge as "drug induced"...
My two best examples are my two dear friends from Malaysia - Samad Sazali and Teck Liaw Leong - drug free athletes for life that have accomplished PHENOMENAL LEVEL OF MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT...as these photos show... ;)
Thank you for very useful info. My enemy ;D
M1T is an Adrosteneodione after all or somethings so it is Androgenic. That's why I was suppose to stop taking it after a month or so but in the first month I put on nearly 50 pounds on my bench press with it with a bounce off my chest but could do 495 at a 3second pause at the chest and explode up in perfect form so I knew that if I were able to eventually bounce off 605 raw or without a bench shirt I could have competitively lifted at least 550 at a more strict form for powerlifting competition, but that was all I pretty much did was bench pressing and layoff at the squats so my squats was still at less than 500 with perfect form. But I just wanted to become good at bench pressing because I get much more of a rush with so much weight bouncing off of my chest.
I wish you all a wonderful weekend!
Those guys are in great condition!
No problem...I don't like (OK - I am afraid of) snakes..but I don't mind letting it in my life and even holding it. When I know it is there - keeps me alert and when I am holding one I am carefully watching...You know - snake can bite ;)He he. Watch your back dude! I am near!! ;D
If these guys truly = naturals for life, then they are one of the best naturals in teh world.
Milos those two guys look absolutely incredible but are you really suggesting that they're natural? i'm sure they're not huge juice factories but natural??? come on.I call BS on that as well.. but they look damn good for sure.
are you gonna compete this year milos?
Milos those two guys look absolutely incredible but are you really suggesting that they're natural? i'm sure they're not huge juice factories but natural??? come on.Why not. Amount of mass they have is similar to me. Since I am natural.
Dude... you get sore nipples from M1T...ok... fine... you stop taking it and the nipples will go back to normal within a few short weeks... your nipples are still swollen big time... your face is bloated... you are bloated all over... you are on test and deca... ::)
I'll sure try...and if not than next year...
I have a little problems with some nagging injuries...Since I had 3 surgeries on my knees and my right quadriceps is shortened - it throws of my back every so often...Than my biceps tendon got ruptured - as I had moment of weakness (thinking I am 30 years old again) and wanting to show Silvio and Hide that I can do 30 reps with weight they were struggling for 10 (Barbell curls) - and on my ninth rep - it snapped...Since than I am little "handicapped"...but as I always believe MIND OVER THE MATTER - I am healing myself to the point that I will make myself competitive looking again...And I mean Mr. Olympia competitive looking - if you know what I mean ;)
I didn't live with them all my life...so it is matter of trust...and when they claim they NEVER DID USE ANYTHING and in 4 months preparation period for the mos important show of their lives THEY DID NOT USE ANYTHING (except my drinks ;D) - I absolutely believe them.
Drug-free issue is very sensitive and most of the guys would just NOT ACCPET that this kind of development is possible without "little help"...
Well, if it means anything - take it from me: IT IS POSSIBLE...and NUMEROUS GUYS AROUND THE WORLD ACHIEVE SIMILAR RESULTS.
Hard work, dedication, discipline, persistence, healthy lifestyle and meticulous eating habits with right kind of supplementation (and I do mean NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS - as they are worth mentioning...cause they DO HELP immensely), knowing your body and exploring human physiology, exercise physiology...and certainly nutrition = could lead to lifetime of muscular excellence these two gentlemen (my dear friends Leong and Zali) posses.
not true, once you start to get an onset of gyno, you must take an anti-e ASAP or it can become permanent. In his case, he ignored the signs, and now has to live with it or get surgery. Just because someone has gyno, it doesn't mean they are currently on anything.
dont be silly... you get off the supps your hormonal levels normalize and the extra tissue will dissapear... happened to me... happened to others.. for some it takes a bit longer than others but it will go away if you stop using it long enough.... same with your balls... they will come back in size
Why would I talk to you? So you can revoke my membership and get your goons to mug me in the parking lot?
He he. Watch your back dude! I am near!! ;D
Anyway,really good info. Thanx.
they have the typical drug like artifical look to their muscles you don't get as a natural. there is no difference in their unnatural looks when you compare them to milos' other disciples be it luke, silvio, hide or whoever... the only variation is the amount of muscle they carry... and even the 'smaller' ones of milos' disciples are too big to be natural.
Oh, I forget to mention...I also step on the snake which don't behave and attempt to bite me - and make a belt for my wife...
I am watching...and have eyes on the back of my head - so be nice...
You see...That is why you feel the way you do.
Everyone is against you...I would revoke your membership and get my goons (who are they BTW?) to mug you?
So you are implicating that I might be even a criminal?
After your pointless attack and sensless assumptions about me - I am still trying to give you a helping hand and a handshake...and plus I am doing it publically - so IF something happens you can expose me to the world...
I don't ask you or anyone to love me, respect me...or whatever else...But, if someone judges me and they are wrong - I am (I hope you agree) entitled to "defend" myself and give my point of view.
As I am confident enough to say - that whoever meets me in person WILL SEE who I really am - I am giving you the opportunity to meet me firsthand.
You don't want that - no problem.
At least I tried.
I do want to lead with example and spread LOVE and FRIENDSHIPS among "BROTHERS OF IRON"...After all we are that...and most of us will be that FOR LIFE.
We (THE BODYBUILDERS) are not so accepted by general public as they see certain things...and those things are obvious...and you can see it here - everyday.
Login on my board and see what is going on there.
Nothing but love, support, understanding, friendly atmosphere with true family feeling to it...We encourage and motivate, we help and support...WE LOVE each other over there - and IT IS BEAUTIFUL THING...If I could make over 10000 members get along for years on my forum...I am sure I can at least contribute here...and that is exactly what I am doing.
I sustained all of attacks and convert some of my "enemies" to be friends...and I believe ALL OF YOU HERE ON BOARD who "fight" against each other - could make a piece very easily...
VERY EASILY.
Why can't we all get along ( ::) OK I didn't want to sound like Rodney King)?
watch out for animals rights org, mr sarcevious
Killing poisonous sneak that tries to bite is a selfdefence ;D
Are you offering to show him the secret handshake?
What's up with that?
-Hedge
i agree 100%...some fat human right pigs wouldnt agree tho!
All you have to do is - put them in a cage with one...
haha milos true.
milos, what do you think of vegetarians?
Oh, I forget to mention...I also step on the snake which don't behave and attempt to bite me - and make a belt for my wife...Ha ha! I dont want to be a belt of her though.... ;D
I am watching...and have eyes on the back of my head - so be nice...
Ha ha! I dont want to be a belt of her though.... ;D
Anyway, Maybe it doesnt look nice to you but I would say the samething what i said before to your face(So even if we took dinner with you in S Suzana).
I dont try to be nice nor bad to you. I just say what i think.I dont(always) have anything special feeling(Bad or good) to you.Every people in here know me about that. I am quite neutral person.
This time,your info looks quite precious. So I act like this. Thats all.
NIPPON VS SRPSKANo i dont think so. He has HIDE there.
No i dont think so. He has HIDE there.
Maybe NIPPON + SRPSKA VS KYOMU ;D
sounds like an international gay porn movie.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! COOLL!!! (^o^)v
I think they are deprived of meat ;Dare u saying that staying away from the meat is a sure way to flush your placings down the shitter ??? no pun intended
milos, whats the weirdest question you have been asked by a training client?
One of the best threads on getbig in a very long time. Thank you Milos, garraeth, SirMixalot and everyone else who's put their cents in.
Since biceps don't affect the rest of my training, I'm gonna try Milos biceps workout, will try to get a grasp of exactly how to do it.
Give it a go for at least 8 weeks, see what happens.
-Hedge
Ha ha! I dont want to be a belt of her though.... ;D
Anyway, Maybe it doesnt look nice to you but I would say the samething what i said before to your face(So even if we took dinner with you in S Suzana).
I dont try to be nice nor bad to you. I just say what i think.I dont(always) have anything special feeling(Bad or good) to you.Every people in here know me about that. I am quite neutral person.
This time,your info looks quite precious. So I act like this. Thats all.
No i dont think so. He has HIDE there.
Maybe NIPPON + SRPSKA VS KYOMU ;D
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! COOLL!!! (^o^)v
are u saying that staying away from the meat is a sure way to flush your placings down the shitter ??? no pun intended
One of the best threads on getbig in a very long time. Thank you Milos, garraeth, SirMixalot and everyone else who's put their cents in.
Since biceps don't affect the rest of my training, I'm gonna try Milos biceps workout, will try to get a grasp of exactly how to do it.
Give it a go for at least 8 weeks, see what happens.
-Hedge
same here...i'm gonna get an account on Milos's site, and see if i can get more info there
i was skeptical at first, but after what Milos wrote about his theories i'm intrigued to try it
I said crystal clear what I said and obviously your brain is making some assumptions...and I wonder why? (no pun intended)I'm jsut trying to read in between the lines here, as you would know the truth about truth's- there's more to it than just the literal and seemingly clearcut. So to say that I'm making mere assumptions is underguesstimating me, or perhaps Milos plays the fool? You made a general statement that vegetarianism isn't a healthy choice for bodybuilders, as to what it implies is clear to some and profoundly deep to others.
You made a general statement that vegetarianism isn't a healthy choice for bodybuilders, as to what it implies is clear to some and profoundly deep to others.
He, haven't been sore since Saturday...if you'd like, I'll do laps up and down the stairs at the gym to prove it to you. heh. Did normal cardio sat, sun and tonight...no probs, and calves saturday (kinda same general area). I like legs. :D
...so, I think you owe me a PW shake, whohoo! ;D
is that synthol in your left bicep?
you look too hunched on your rows. need to get your shoulders back more. the way you're doing it makes that traps, rhomboids and lower back do most of the work.you have to hunch your back or "round it" to really stretch your lats, i can't stand the way people train back these days trying to stay upright and arched the whole time, there's absolutely no way to stretch your lats like that.
i'm surprised milos isn't giving you any instruction on exercise performance. what exactly are you paying for again ???
anyway, gotta go, in the middle of a giant set, talk later...pfft
how many times you barfed?
Another sophisticated getbig question. ::)
maybe a little sophisticated for you pumpy but garraeth understood it fine.
just aswell i wasn't aiming it at you hey? ;)
barfing, puking, whatever sophisticated terminolgy you want to use, happens to be a feature of the milos w.o so get your head out of your arse.
Lighten up, barf-breath.
that was exactly my point to you.
Aren't there more Steve Reeves posts to get to? ;)
dunno, are there? seems you're the one obsessed with the poor guy.
you do know he's both heterosexual and deceased don't you ???
heh, none. Chewing gum REALLY helps with that. When I start feeling woozy I chew like mad and it goes away.
Saturday one guy puked, but not me -- thankfully.
We did legs AGAIN today -- yea, saturday and tuesday. It was murder. I was still super sore. And another guy puked. Bad, from what I could hear. But he came back and finished strong.
Synthol: yeah big mistake. But I look it like any handicap -- it can be overcome. So my arms won't be like Frank McGrath's, but they'll be decent and match the rest of my physique. It'll be a lot harder, but do-able imo. Plus it seems people like Nasser, Kovacs, and Heiko Kallbach were at the ends of their careers and/or already super drugged out and everything shot and worn. I'm neither.
And there are others who've used synthol that you don't know about because they were able to fix the damage.
BEAST 8692: not sure which pic you're referring to, but we were to stretch pretty far when doing the rows. Plus, after doing 400 reps, you start to loose your perfect form...
Another great workout Garraeth...
I wish you posted some photos and complete program for our friends here on getbig....
As you know - I don't have much time...but I would go from one exercise to another - explaining what was done in each and every one...
I can post those pics...just haven't cuz I'm working on a watermarking script.
Gimme a bit and I'll put them up...
Legs again today...you wanna see the pics? Or no?
It was cool...another guy I'd never seen joined us today (he mighta been a regular member, I dunno, but everyone acted as tho they knew him) -- didn't finish.
Another one bites the dust ;D
I'm evil, I know -- but I'm surprised how they drop like flies. So far, 3 new people have tried and not finished. And it's only been like 3 weeks.
heh, thanks.
But I don't plan on it ending anytime soon...it's not a trial basis type of thing -- at least, not for me!
Legs again today...you wanna see the pics? Or no?Is the drop out in the pics?
It was cool...another guy I'd never seen joined us today (he mighta been a regular member, I dunno, but everyone acted as tho they knew him) -- didn't finish.
Another one bites the dust ;D
I'm evil, I know -- but I'm surprised how they drop like flies. So far, 3 new people have tried and not finished. And it's only been like 3 weeks.
Shoulders today -- no pics...what did you guys do garraeth?
heh...I really have no idea. Both have strengths and both have weaknesses, imo...
Pretty much...they're both bigger than me. ;D
Here's a question for everyone...whoe would you rather have train you? a. charles glass b. Milos SarchevGood question that i've thought about myself. Impossible to answer without more equivalent details about Charles' approaches. Most likely they're both excellent and quite different.
K, no pics again. Sorry time was short this afternoon...
We did chest and calves. imo I have a really good chest, but today was just not good for me...mighta been cuz of the insanity from yesterday. dunno.
Calves always hurt like mad for me tho.
Then tonight we did shoulders...they did them in Fullerton, I did them here. I need to move up there to do 2x/day workouts -- the hour long rush-hour commute is just too much. damm...
Did hamstrings & calves locally this afternoon. Tonight did shoulders w/ Milos & Dennis.LOL. Without the pictures, and with the musings, it takes on an agony aunt-like diary entry. :)
No pics...sorry :(
Legs tonight after the seminar. Armin Schultz (spelling?), Dennis Wolf, Milos, Rick (Milos' business partner) and I. It was kinda less than normal cuz everyone was super tired after the events of the day -- especially, I'm sure, Milos!
Dennis James just did cardio cuz he'd got a photoshoot tomorrow and didn't want his legs to be dead during it.
Today was shoulders in the afternoon...then back in the evening.
Oh, and did I mention that I gained 4lbs last week? ;D
lol 4lbs in one week ::).....
i think you have a giant turd inside of you waiting to be born!
Speaking of humungous turds...excellent empty post. ;)
I can't post any cuz it'll nullify my contract with AMI.
Yesterday I only did quads -- just 1 workout cuz I had meetings in the morning...
um...ok...next week tho cuz this week I'm on my own.thats cool,i honestly looked through every page of this just to see you train legs and back like 8 times,but no chest ;D
Afternoon: shoulders
Evening: back
more...
At my level? Sure I guess so...
What's a trigger point?
Today:
Afternoon: chest
Evening: biceps & triceps
Walk away from what? Stop training? You're joking right.
Ahh yea...well, I'm hoping Milos will come back into the picture and we can continue w/ the photos and info. As you can tell, he's kinda busy/preoccupied right now so we haven't been training together.
So, look at it this way: my training log -- in the wrong forum. heh.
I'm still loving it...people keep asking me what I'm "on"? heh. And that I'm bigger every time they see me. Or that I'm smaller every time they see me (they say "smaller" meaning less fat -- cuz obviously, if I've gained 13 lbs in the past 2 months, I'm not smaller).
I'm getting some really gnarly veins in my legs too -- something I never thought I'd have. And they are starting to chafe when I walk -- awesome. My waist is 41" (just had it measured last Sunday for a tux for a friends wedding next month - I'm 6'2", so 41 isn't as bad as it sounds). So I have to get my legs to 41" as well. I got a while to go :D but w/ my genetics it's definitely doable...I've always had big legs - kids in elementary school used to tease me because of my "fat" legs (not fat, just unusually big).
'course everything else will be in proportion...! I think that's a big reason I'm a fan of Mustafa -- his physique is a good "target" for me (excellent genetics for legs & chest, good for back & shoulders -- all things I've got...I just need better arms). I look at him and see where I will be if I can hold everything together just long enough (training, diet, time, money, etc...etc...etc...).
(...sorry, leg day today in about 15 minutes, so it's on my mind...)
'eh, I've always shot high. Generally higher than I can achieve. But that's why I shoot so high -- I enjoy the challenge and don't accept mediocrity.
I did this when I wrote my portal software. And again, my ecommerce software. As well when I created my own company. All thing people said I was crazy/delusional/foolish to even try. And each time, I set for myself a target -- and that target has ALWAYS been whatever was currently the best in the industry (granted Mustafa isn't the best, but Coleman is grotesque imo).
The only difference this time is the end result is my physique rather than a product or business.
So yes, I'm definately delusional. But I'd rather that, than live an average life.
Just got back from gym: 265 dammit. Lost 2lbs.huh, what's up lightweight? ;D
Just did cardio, abs and a bit of light shoulders for fun.
Yeah, seriously DJ has nothing on me! heh.That's pretty funny man ;D
Today:
Afternoon: shoulders
Evening: back
Funny: These guys from some eastern block country (they are always speaking Russian or something like that) were doing tricep push-downs. On the machine where you can put your back on the pad and have the horizontal bar come down in front of you. You know the one...
Anyhow, they were using the rope. And were doing it with their arms overhead...so facing away from the pad, arms overhead, and straightening their arms out front.
So one guy would do that.
While another guy (guy "A") would stand behind him (guy "B" - doing the exercise) -- between "B" and the pad -- facing "B", with "A"'s hand on "B"'s lower back. And since "B" was bent over, and "A" was facing him, smashed up between "B" and the pad with his hand on "B"'s lower back...well, you get the picture...I had to hide my face to hide my laughing...but I think they saw me and quit doing that after the one set. ;D
Holy crap the gym (24 Hour) was insane tonight. Today it was totally empty, but tonight it was wall-to-wall. Never seen it so busy. Stupid people coming in to workout for summer. arrg.
Afternoon: chest
Evening: biceps & triceps
Yeah 24 hour...laaaaame.
Pretty freaken hard, so I gather a bunch of dumbells/barbells around a bench or whatever, and do like 10 exercises in my little 5x3' area. Or run around to open machines doing whatever I can...skipping ones someone jumped on.
And, if I go back and train w/ Milos more and he takes pics, then I'll do the exercises...I'm too lazy to write it all out each time w/o photos -- and I forget.
Yeah, tuesdays are usually ok tho...plus it was at 8pm. I was surprised.
Today just did quads in afternoon...met w/ Milos tonight so didn't get to hams & calves. He's off to Japan to hang w/ Hide for a couple weeks, so we reviewed my diet and the past couple weeks me training by myself. I got an A. ;D
Today just did cardio and abs...little triceps and leg extensions just for the pump.
Weighed in at 266.5...up 1.5 lbs. So kinda fluxuating between 265 and 267.
This week I got my first two "fanboys". Interesting. Couple kids (guys in late teens or early 20's) asking cliche questions like: "how long you been lifting?" or "what can I take to get big?" or "how often do you lift?" or just wanting to talk about...anything. They are nice and all, just kinda weird (random people don't generally want to talk to me cuz I'm a bit like quazomoto - fugly)...and a bit distracting cuz any time I see them, they want to come up to me and chat. But it's kinda cool...flattering.
I also got my first online stalker (hater?) via PM's. That too is interesting. But a good experience to learn from I guess. Random person telling me I'm fat and don't know what the hell I'm doing (I don't, but I've got faith in Milos' advice), etc...etc...heh, again, weird...
Yesterday - chest in morning. Had a lunch meeting and it screwed me all up so I didn't go back for arms.
Today:
Afternoon: quads
Evening: hams/calves. Kinda cool...saw a guy from the Koloseum there (he was wearing a Koloseum t-shirt too). So we chatted. Guess he lives here (Aliso Viejo) but trains in Fullerton because he works there. He was training his wife local tonight. He was saying the same thing I have in the past -- holy crap, what a huge crowd! heh.
heh, man you're tough! ;)
Just curious: Have you ever competed?
I didn't want to go into detail, but after the lunch meeting I was nauseous the rest of the day from what I ate at lunch. At least I learned that now my stomach is a lot more sensitive than before. So, even if I'm craving shit food, it's a bad idea if I want to be at full strength the rest of the day. ...and yeah, a little nausea doesn't usually keep me out of the gym (gum usually helps enough to get over it), but I felt a bit beat up -- and do worry somewhat about overtraining.
...I've only skipped, what? Two sessions? Six days a week, twice a day...plus cardio/abs sunday. I dunno, is that's normal (or required?) for someone trying to get as big as I'm trying to get...? I've just never heard of anyone working out that much. The only time I heard of the pro's doing that is the weeks before a big competition.
That's quite a compliment. Dunno what to say...Thanks.
Today I skipped the gym and watched all six Star Wars movies. Before I started, I ran to the store and got a tub of Ben & Jerrys and some Cherry Coke to wash it down with. Yummy!
Not.
Afternoon: shoulders...the last round of the first giant set hurt so bad my eyes were watering. omg. insane. the last exercise was the pink dumbells and it hurt so damm bad...
Evening: back...hurt like mad too. On back I was watching Mustafa (yea, I'm a dork) and noticed he always does FULL range of motion. So I was trying to duplicate that. heh. It makes more of a difference than you'd think! 10 reps of lat pulldowns "normal" style is nothing compared to 10 reps full range...then try that with 7 exercises in a row -- full range. fucken-a.
Sorry no, I'll clarify: his video
lol
probably...ah well, the price of fame ;D
Didn't you read, I've got fanboys now too! whohoo!
havent read ur whole post yet...but wanted to assure you: you aren't one of the fanboys I was talking about...they are at my gym here in cali...heh, no no no no no no...not you
Very cool. So what sport? Or don't wanna say...
np...
anon people are fine -- goatboy, gh15, etc...just when anon people are attacking others (texasbubba) does it irk me and others
nah, if i was a bber or associated eg. p/lifter i'd say but my sport has nothing to do with what we discuss on this site so i don't want to open it up to negativity.curling is not a real sport ::)
lol, i'm really in to this positivity thing aren't i? ;D
curling is not a real sport ::)
Garraeth, got a date on your return to the Koloseum yet? Missed you big guy :-*
About those fanboys, shave your head, grow a goatee, get some tats, find that look in your eye and they'll leave you alone ;D
hey, it's more a sport than bbing asshole >:(bbing is not a sport, either :-*
bbing is not a sport, either :-*
competitive darts, now there a good ole fashioned sport! :D
Cool to hear about your funding, Garraeth, when are you going to let us mere mortals in?
About those arms, I don't know the whole story, synthol you say? What's with the ultrasound and massages?
do you actually compete in darts man ??? :o yes, now you're talking hardcore baby.It's that game where someone spins a blob, and the other guys sweep the floor in front of it. I don't know the point, looks pretty lame.
i was going to take up competitve darts when i was a kid but my folks thought it was too dangerous so i convinced them to let me do the ultimate sport, curling.
i've been a curler ever since...
btw, what's curling ???
I hadn't...he just emailed asking for some questions.
We did, however, get the store up finally: www.koloseum.com
Which is cool.
Tonight: shoulders. I took a friend along for the ride. He did really well!
Today:I'm 5'4" >:( and it was 100 lbs, you must have not seen the 2.5's on each side :P
bis/tris at Koloseum...I had a wedding rehearsal in Brea at 6pm so it just made sense to workout there (down the street from the rehearsal) rather than by my house and then get stuck in traffic for an hour and half. Weddings are boring.
Chaos was there, so it was cool to chat w/ him a bit. He's a tiny-tit, but that's ok. You're what? Like 5'3" and about 160 -- you have quite a bit of fat to loose, so maybe 145 ripped. I helped him with his workout. I was impressed that he was able to bench 95lbs for 10 with a full range of motion and no bounce. Give him a month or so and we'll add a 5lb plate to each side.
Today we did bis/tris. My legs are sore from yesterday...I won't ruin you thread with flaming, garraeth, but I seriously fucking doubt the above post is true ;)
Anyhow, Milos came to Hide and me and said: "I think Bluto is right. I'm going to change my whole training philosophy and do what Bluto says to do.".
So today we did heavy curls, skullcrushers and close grip bench. I think Milos has seen the error of his ways and has learned from the experience and knowledge of Bluto. Finally.
I'll upload pics later -- I've got to get some work done...eating dinner now.
Course not. But it was pretty funny ;Dha ha ::)
Today we did bis/tris. My legs are sore from yesterday...
Anyhow, Milos came to Hide and me and said: "I think Bluto is right. I'm going to change my whole training philosophy and do what Bluto says to do.".
So today we did heavy curls, skullcrushers and close grip bench. I think Milos has seen the error of his ways and has learned from the experience and knowledge of Bluto. Finally.
I'll upload pics later -- I've got to get some work done...eating dinner now.
Kewl...whose the Gaspari guy??good stuff Garraeth, love these pics, most interseting stuff on this site for sure.
And here are pics from yesterday of our arm workout. HEAVY: http://www.koloseum.com/gallery//ThumbnailView.php?DOMAIN_Link=&iGalleryUnq=34&iCategoryUnq=1
Milamar is way cool. I was showing her how to upload pics to the gallery (in bulk and have the system auto-watermark them), and while the pics were FTPing up, we were lauging about that post about Milos' pic being on the gay porn site -- and the guy who posted the initial msg saying stuff like: "I'm not gay!" and "It was my friend who showed me the site!", etc...hehe...altho I'm pissed cuz some jackass mod DELETED (not moved, DELETED) it. It was way funny...and she wanted to see his pics on the site. heh.
Long sleeve shirts? No. Just t-shirts...short sleeve t-shirts:(http://www.koloseum.com/gallery/Galleries//1/35/IMG_7565.JPG)
Today we did legs - again. Milos is asking me to make sure to do full range of motion even if I can't do all the reps. As I said before about my back workout -- doing full ROM is insane. So doing it (and slow/controlled) for legs fucken kills you...I could feel the nerves in my head tingle from lack of oxygen. heh. damm.
Hide is a monster. He's doing double the weight I am and it hardly phases him.
Pics here (Milamar uploaded these): http://www.koloseum.com/gallery//ThumbnailView.php?DOMAIN_Link=&iGalleryUnq=37&iCategoryUnq=1
Here I am inspecting the equipment:
(http://www.koloseum.com/gallery/Galleries//1/37/IMG_0706.JPG)
heh, I'm stretching...
There are a ton of middle-aged guys who ride street bikes around here. It's the newest fad for guys from 35-55. They all have money. And so buy $3k bikes and all the trimmings. Including the skin tight shirt and shorts with the bike racing stripes and logo look. And the gloves and pointy helmet.
I'd say about 75% of them are about 30-40% bf with a nice pot-belly bouncing against their knees as they peddle up and down hills huffing and puffing against the highest possible gear ratio money can buy. They are all posers. Wannabes. Never-wills. Have too much money and not enough sense. Don't want to pay their dues. Want instant gratification. Want the 5% bf look with a double cheeseburger and fries on the side.
I'll pay my dues before I cash in...
heh, that's kinda what Milos says too...get comfortable with your body parts (referring to posing though).
So you're right...at my gym I wear tank-tops all the time. But that's cuz there I'm not a poser -- I'm the biggest guy there! At the K, it's almost like I'm a poser cuz I'm the SMALLEST guy there.
my God this "beast 8692" must be an absolute monster, we have to get some pics of this guy, i mean he trains in tank tops and tiny shorts, he must be 275 pounds at 2 percent bodyfat and 5'7".
comprehension wasn't your strong point in school was it?hahahaha, prove me wrong "big man" post your picture, come on i know you can do it, all this knowledge you have you must be an absolute machine, show us all what a real bodybuilder looks like. ;D
hahahaha, prove me wrong "big man" post your picture, come on i know you can do it, all this knowledge you have you must be an absolute machine, show us all what a real bodybuilder looks like. ;D
ok, i'll help you out a little seeing as you obviously need special education and i am considerate like that. :Dhahahaha, just what i thought more bullshit and deflection, until you post a picture you're a 14 year old 105 pound zit faced virgin. ;D
i am not a bber, never have been.
is my advice false or without wisdom? please educate us squadfather because we can all see for ourselves your credentials on the subject.
actually, i'm glad you turned up because you would have to be my best example of a bber that has greatly suffered development wise due to your lack of disclosure. still wearing those bed sheets to cover up your man boobs and 50" gut squad? ;D
hahahaha, just what i thought more bullshit and deflection, until you post a picture you're a 14 year old 105 pound zit faced virgin. ;D
Heh, read me like a book... :-[
Ok. Fuck em. I'll wear what I want and do the comparisons, etc...I'll wear what I want later tho cuz everything is still packed from my move ;D
Heh, read me like a book... :-[haha garraeth, you know you're not the smallest, that's my spot >:(
Ok. Fuck em. I'll wear what I want and do the comparisons, etc...I'll wear what I want later tho cuz everything is still packed from my move ;D
Yeah, it was:sounds brutal, looks like you guys did almost exactly what i did yesterday for triceps, close grip bench/overhead db extension/pushdown/lying extension giant sets, i did 3 rotations.
--two arm db curl
--preacher
--incline db curl
--barbell curl
--seated db curl - hammer
--reverse grip preacher
We do them power-style. Just fuck-all bounce off the rack as fast as you can go. Good finishing move, but no finesse.i pause the weight on the pins before pressing up , the hard part is keeping the bar in a straight line before starting the next rep.
Today was legs. I bit the dust after the first round...skipped the second and finished strong.you skipped the second round ??? If I would have known that then >:(
Johnny Jackson joined us. Chaos & friend were there too...doing legs on their own.
Pics here: http://www.koloseum.com/gallery//ThumbnailView.php?DOMAIN_Link=&iGalleryUnq=42&iCategoryUnq=1
Why, would you have joined us? heh, ok...next time then ;D Oh, and it was the second round on the first half -- before you guys arrived...nah, you guys are way too far ahead of me :'( We thought it was funny that Milos would tell you not to make that face, instead of focusing on your form or something that mattered. I missed out today and I'll miss tomorrow as well, when it rains...........
Yeah, it's hard to control your face when in pain...Hide gives me shit sometimes too cuz when I'm doing stuff on bench, my legs flop around sometimes. heh.
Today was shoulders...I had to leave after the first half tho cuz I had a lunch meeting. So no pics till tomorrow. I dunno...when it rains, it pours. I just got home -- been gone since 11am...same happened yesterday, and pretty much all last week. Hopefully it'll calm down and give me a bit more focus @ gym.
Yeah...kinda weird, but he's doing it to help train my mind -- so I can be calm and relaxed no matter the pain...he's "the mind" afterall
i have such conflicting opinions on this man (i'll have to meet him one day to find out what he's really like) but he's very smart when he's not trying to sell something.
by keeping your face calm, it calms your mind aswell so you can challenge your focus on what you're doing and achieving and, in a bodybuilding sense, obviously that would mean targeting the intended muscle group and creating more forceful and focused contractions.
i learnt this from when i started competing in boxing. novices, especially hws get hyped up, angry and charge in all tense and i was no exception. on the night with the crowd and everything, there is too much adrenaline flowing. i was told by my amateur coach at the time (few years back now) to 'knock this guy out'. well, i could do it in sparring and i did want to be mike tyson so that's exactly what i tried to do.
cut a long story short, i lost the fight (lucky i didn't get ktfo myself), i was so exhausted that i didn't recover for hours after (a police officer at the fight said he saw corpses that looked better than me - i was blue from lack of oxygen ;D) and when i look back at the video, there's the fucking coach slapping me in the face and yelling at me in between rounds (as if i wasn't tight enough ::)). thing is, plan, defense, power, speed, stamina - focus went out the window and that's why i lost.
the reason i bring up fighting is because there are not many other sports where the flight or fight rush kicks in more, yet the best fighters ALWAYS stay calm. same with car racing, anything. staying calm under pressure is an extremely important lesson in sports/life and yes, it starts with the face.
very very good post. another aspect is that some bodybuilders psych up too much before lifts, which will drain your mental energies fast! and possibly cause overtraining (altho overtraining is often a misused word and an excuse to not work hard). same goes with guys who think about bodybuilding 24/7, which will make you burn out real quick.
very very good post. another aspect is that some bodybuilders psych up too much before lifts, which will drain your mental energies fast! and possibly cause overtraining (altho overtraining is often a misused word and an excuse to not work hard). same goes with guys who think about bodybuilding 24/7, which will make you burn out real quick.
remember to stay calm before lifting ;D
970 pound deadlift
didnt help. all i read was some bullshit from you and a few others and it still remain bullshit as far as i can see
now show me your war face!
Today was shoulders. Milos upped the intensity, or I'm getting weaker...one of the two. But he's going crazy now to get Hide ready for the Mr. O, and Benice for the Worlds.
3 rounds of:
--reverse delts on the fly machine
--shoulder presses on the calf machine
--shoulder presses on the incline bench press machine (lying on the bench face-down instead of face-up)
--shoulder press machine
--fly machine
3 rounds of:
--lying on incline bench, rear delt flys
--sitting up on incline bench, lateral flys
--sitting up on lincline bench, front delt flys
--standing bent over rear delt flys
--delt press machine
--upright rows
--smith machine shoulder presses
--seated barbell shoulder presses - power
2 rounds of:
--snatch
--clean & press
--overhead press
--upright rows
this was all done w/o putting the barbell down...we only did 2 rounds cuz Milos went nutz and put on 45's (the 1st round was w/ 25's). And Hide was barfing. Heh. So Milos and Hide did it but I only did 5 reps of each and Benice did some and Sasha did some (didn't keep track of them).
--then seated one arm cable pulls for rear delt - alternating arms for 3 rounds each arm
--then right into standing one arm cable pulls for side delt - 3 rounds each arm again
We went insanely fast between rounds. Like no more than a minute (sometimes 30 seconds). So everyone was totally wasted and dizzy...like I said, Hide puked -- too much pre-workout drink I think, combined w/ the added intensity and speed. Cuz he's normally super stable and strong as hell.
I went home and slept an hour.
and I'm driving like an idiot cuz I can't focus and walking around with tunnel vision. It's bad. heh.was that you that cut me off the other day >:(
Probably.
Today was back. Yey. Mine is smaller now than before. It was really hard today. Funny cuz afterwards Steve was asking if we ever got used to it.
I got pissed in the last round cuz on one hand I'm trying to do perfect form and on the other hand, the weight keeps going up...so it's impossible. Fucken ultra heavy weight that I could barely move fresh, much less at the end of the workout...and try doing it with any semblance of form 10x -- not happening. So that was one I said fuck it and stopped after like 4 reps -- 4 useless reps of me swinging the weight. So the next (and last) round I cut the weight in half and did all 10 w/ perfect form. I think sometimes they forget I'm 9 inches taller and not Mr. O... ::)
yeah yeah...so i had one bad set...bleh. I'm over it.
And, I was just being sarcastic: my back shrank cuz the workout was soooo hard.
:)
Bunch of new galleries of Hide: http://www.koloseum.com/gallery//G_Display.php?iCategoryUnq=3
Garraeth,
Do you guys works abs with Milos? If you do, would you post the routine. Thanks a lot.
slaveboy1980 is pretty correct. The only thing that's different is that when we do abs, we normally do cable crunches and always go way the hell up to the a max stretch. I usually face away from the pulley so that it's actually pulling me back and up. I guess you want a max stretch at the top to create the deep horizontal lines between each ab muscle.you cant isolate lower vs upper abs. cable crunches hit both "upper" and "lower". the leg raises may feel like they hit "lower" abs more...but they stimulate all of the abs: upper and lower. (not including obliques..which gets some stimulus..but shouldnt be trained directly by a bodybuilder)
And go all the way to the bottom and curl your head under into your crotch as far as possible -- and exhale as much as possible. To get a max crunch at the bottom.
This full range really makes it a lot harder than normal, but builds them better too.
And I keep upping the weight (reps of 8-20) because your ab muscles respond to additional weight just like any other muscle.
Then lower abs on the pullup machine - leg raises. As high as you can do. I can only go half way now. But the other guys can go all the way up. Hard. And, make sure to use your lower abs. Not your leg muscles. Most people find leg raises easy because they use their leg muscles to pull their legs up, not their abs.
slaveboy1980 is pretty correct. The only thing that's different is that when we do abs, we normally do cable crunches and always go way the hell up to the a max stretch. I usually face away from the pulley so that it's actually pulling me back and up. I guess you want a max stretch at the top to create the deep horizontal lines between each ab muscle.
And go all the way to the bottom and curl your head under into your crotch as far as possible -- and exhale as much as possible. To get a max crunch at the bottom.
This full range really makes it a lot harder than normal, but builds them better too.
And I keep upping the weight (reps of 8-20) because your ab muscles respond to additional weight just like any other muscle.
Then lower abs on the pullup machine - leg raises. As high as you can do. I can only go half way now. But the other guys can go all the way up. Hard. And, make sure to use your lower abs. Not your leg muscles. Most people find leg raises easy because they use their leg muscles to pull their legs up, not their abs.
np...
Today was arms. My weakest part. We did the "normal" rounds. About 20 exercises in a row. I'm not finishing all 10 reps for each bicep exercise because I'm really trying to concentrate on the bottom part of my biceps. That's the worse for me. And yes, you can work parts of your muscle -- upper vs/ lower bicep, inner vs/ outer pecs, etc...I didn't think so until Milos told me to test it. I did. With my outer pecs. Once, on my own, I did chest. Every movement was ultra-wide grip. The next day, my outer pecs were totally painful, but my inner was fine.
So for my lower bicep, I'm making sure to go all the way to the bottom and stretch it fully. So it's really hard to do full reps. Like, try preacher curls normal, with a decent weight, for 10. Then do the same weight and pull your body back and down a bit so that at the bottom, the barbell isn't touching anything and your arms feel like they're being pulled the wrong way. Then do your sets with each rep like that. And don't bounce at the bottom.
It's hard.
Please bring this up on the G&O board, I'd rather keep this a simple log.
Thanks!!
Today was legs. Hardest thing - by far. I always get mad cramps in my legs later at night. It really wastes you.
We did (3 rounds):
--front squats
--smith machine squats
--smith machine squats - wide stance, to decline bench
--leg press - wide stance
--leg curls
--leg press - on toes, close stance
--sissy squats on hack machine
--normal stance on hack machine
--wide stance squats to bench
--1-leg squats on smith machine
--1-leg leg presses
Then (2 rounds):
--descending sets on hack squat machine. Start w/ 4 plates/side and do 3 reps. Each 3rd rep, take 1 plate off one side. Alternate sides.
--wide stance, on toes, smith machine squats
--leg presses - wide stance
--leg presses - 20 reps
--leg presses - 30 reps (each leg press exercise is on a different machine)
--leg curls - 20 reps
Bleh...week before last, Milos was super busy.Busy>not busy ;)
Last week, I was (fucken-a, the first three days I slept 3 hours).
Dunno what'll happen this week w/ holidays.
I wish.That sucks :(
No. Server started to die (PHP was corrupt) and we had investor meetings Tuesday and Thursday. I got lucky and the Tuesday meeting got cancelled (she was sick). But I still had to move the whole site (about 2,000,000 files and 15gigs) from one server to a brand new one and get the new one set up by Wed night.
RIP :'(
Are you saying garraeth cannot afford paying 500$ for every workout?I'm saying Garraeth cannot afford to post here. ;)
still in jail?? :-[ :-[Uber busy running his business.
Uber busy running his business.
Good old 2007... :'(
Getbig was the shit back then.
Milos workouts were the new trend.. along with his intra-workout amino acid drink. :)