Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Misc Too Board => Past IFBB & NPC Contests Boards => Pro Bodybuilding Weekly - Radio Board => Topic started by: Ron on September 07, 2006, 02:02:17 PM
-
Subject: PBW Presents "Magazine Wars" (Monday)
Bodybuilding talk radio returns on Monday as Team MuscleTech presents Pro Bodybuilding Weekly. The one-hour broadcast will feature a closer look at the war of words currently taking place on newsstands between rival magazines. Dan & Bob will also check in with Shawn Ray as PBW looks ahead toward Olympia Weekend. The voice of pro bodybuilding broadcasts LIVE on Monday, September 11th at 8pm EST (5pm pst) for a worldwide audience. Broadcasting at www.ProBodybuildingWeekl y.com
"Big Ron" Up Next! PBW will celebrate its 50th broadcast with 8-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman on Monday, September 18th…just days before he attempts to shatter Haney’s record!
-
Magazine wars? I mean it's a big issue but who wants to hear pro-Weider guy Chick blast MD for an hour. Dont get Shawn Ray on there or we'll never hear an opinion. If Romano shows up someone is going to have a meltdown.
-
Subject: PBW Presents "Magazine Wars" (Monday)
Bodybuilding talk radio returns on Monday as Team MuscleTech presents Pro Bodybuilding Weekly. The one-hour broadcast will feature a closer look at the war of words currently taking place on newsstands between rival magazines. Dan & Bob will also check in with Shawn Ray as PBW looks ahead toward Olympia Weekend. The voice of pro bodybuilding broadcasts LIVE on Monday, September 11th at 8pm EST (5pm pst) for a worldwide audience. Broadcasting at www.ProBodybuildingWeekl y.com
"Big Ron" Up Next! PBW will celebrate its 50th broadcast with 8-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman on Monday, September 18th…just days before he attempts to shatter Haney’s record!
Dan should "accidentally" hang up on Shawn when he starts rambling.
God, that man loves to talk!
-
No one really cares as i doubt many people on here read the damn things. By the time they report the Montreal we'll all be discussing the Olympia and Mr Getbig.
-
I don't see whats wrong with Shawn's responses they are lengthy but do answer the question throughly.
-
This should be an interesting way for us in the peanut gallery to learn more about the writers. I'd suggest a few things:
1) Dan is awesome at this, but Bob is not - I would ask that the hosts remain very very neutral this week during the debate. Do not offer opinions on the mag wars. Otherwise it'll quickly become a 2 on 1, as Bob and Team FLEX take on MD. (See: Lee priest radio piece) If Bob can - even just this week - step back and just ask awesome questions, and each side receives equal time to respond, it'd be awesome, and it'd be true journalism!
2) Now, for Bob himself, I'd like to ask him to tell us this:
Please tell us the difference between 2 Bbing mags and 2 Bbing federations. Please tell us why it's A-okay for the sport to have two magazines, but two federations is very bad for the sport. Why is it cool to divide up the BBing audience into segments for marketing publications, but dividing up the federations (mass=ifbb and aesthetics=pdi) is a terrible idea you've argued so vehemently against?
3) Finally, at the end, I would design a structure and earmark 3 minutes so that each guest can hae 20 seconds to make ONE statement which summarizes his points and positions. Tell them ahead of time so they can write it down. The radio show is awesome but closure is sometimes a little awkward. i'd like to hear each person have EXACTLY 20 seconds to share his composed thoughts with the listeners so that we walk away with the impression of a series of thinking points, not 6 guys yelling over each other as we run out of time.
-
Magazine wars? I mean it's a big issue but who wants to hear pro-Weider guy Chick blast MD for an hour. Dont get Shawn Ray on there or we'll never hear an opinion. If Romano shows up someone is going to have a meltdown.
Just have a cage match between the Weider athlethes and MD's.
-
2) Now, for Bob himself, I'd like to ask him to tell us this:
Please tell us the difference between 2 Bbing mags and 2 Bbing federations. Please tell us why it's A-okay for the sport to have two magazines, but two federations is very bad for the sport. Why is it cool to divide up the BBing audience into segments for marketing publications, but dividing up the federations (mass=ifbb and aesthetics=pdi) is a terrible idea you've argued so vehemently against?
I doubt that the other mags would like to know that you think they don't exist...
MMI, Ironman etc
C
-
I doubt that the other mags would like to know that you think they don't exist...
MMI, Ironman etc
C
don't rush him.
We are starting him off slowly. Today a couple of mags, maybe next month a book.
It will be an Archie Book, but it is still a book.
I am starting a collection to buy him a speak and spell, so cut the guy some slack.
;D ;D
-
I doubt that the other mags would like to know that you think they don't exist...
MMI, Ironman etc
You also have the NABBA, the WABBA, and lot of other fun groups. But as with all fields, there are always two names that are known. Coke & Pepsi. Nike & Reebok. Hertz & Avis. XBOX & PS2. Dems and Repubs. FLEX & MD. Come on man, this is mktg 1, the Law of Duality. In the long run, every market becomes a 2-horse race. Scribbles, call me up. You teach me to talk to fitness girls, I'll school you on the laws of mktg :)
-
hope this aint another "round table" episode ::)... Why not have Johnnie Jackson in the hotseat???? ;)
-
hope this aint another "round table" episode ::)... Why not have Johnnie Jackson in the hotseat???? ;)
When you say "hotseat", JoJ might just have his mind elsewhere ;)
-
When you say "hotseat", JoJ might just have his mind elsewhere ;)
;D
-
Anyone who thinks this show will be fair and balanced look no further then who their sponsor is one thie website...FLEX MAGAZINE...you're all idiots if you think this show will side with Blechman and crew in any manner.
-
Poor taste in the title of your show...on the five year anniversary of 9/11 to say this is a "war" is a mockery of a very real war that was launched on america. >:(
-
Anyone who thinks this show will be fair and balanced look no further then who their sponsor is one thie website...FLEX MAGAZINE...you're all idiots if you think this show will side with Blechman and crew in any manner.
I have faith that Bob can show restraint and that the questions can be 50/50 and the time can be 50/50. I think that since they know there is a potential conflict of interest, they'll go out of their way to avoid this in order to maintain journalistic integrity.
If they do, people here and everywhere will give them props, and IMO they'll take a step forward. If Bob grandstands and speaks his potentially biased piece each time, the split may be a 66/33 split.
I'll say it again - if this is billed as Magazine wars, the job of the media is to observe and not influence. Let's see a 50/50 split!
-
Poor taste in the title of your show...on the five year anniversary of 9/11 to say this is a "war" is a mockery of a very real war that was launched on america. >:(
Be careful there boss. There's a lot of evidence which says the "war on terror" involves a lot of white guys in ties that are eating steak on your dime right about now.
-
Be careful there boss. There's a lot of evidence which says the "war on terror" involves a lot of white guys in ties that are eating steak on your dime right about now.
we're not talking about your hardon for the "war on terror". Talking simple terms comparing two guys talking smack in a subculture industry vs planes being flown into our tallest buildings on the same day 5 years ago is much different. two very different "wars". show some respect for the real war people are fighting because of the events on 9/11, not some pissing parade between inflated egomaniacs.
"potential" conflict of interest? when you have FLEX magazine's logo as one of your sponsors there is clearly more then a "potential" conflict there boss.
why isn't steve coming on the show to discuss?
-
I'll say it again - if this is billed as Magazine wars, the job of the media is to observe and not influence. Let's see a 50/50 split!
How do you figure it's the job of the media to observe and not influence?
PS - let me know if you need some tips on talking to fitness women, I'll be down in West Palm Beach the week after the Olympia if you want to sign up for a couple classes. ;)
-
How do you figure it's the job of the media to observe and not influence?
I live media and politics man.
Despite the fact that each show will be tailored to its target demo, there has to be a modicum of neutrality or the show hosts lose their ability to call themselves journalists and they become entertainers.
Lou Dobbs is a journalist. O'Reilly is not. Now, let's not kill this topic with politics. Which fitness girls you meeting? You do know that's arvilla's stomping grounds.
-
"potential" conflict of interest? when you have FLEX magazine's logo as one of your sponsors there is clearly more then a "potential" conflict there boss.
There will only be a conflict if the hosts let there be a conflict.
They can deliver a solid gold debate in which each side is asked 5 adversarial questions specific to their position, and each side has equal time to respond. I think they will, and I am looking fwd to it.
-
Cmon man it'sa easy. Peter calls Dan, Dan listens to Peter or else the sponsorship check will not be mailed.
-
let's not kill this topic with politics.
ami/weider pulled their own politics
that is the topic
-
ami/weider pulled their own politics
that is the topic
No saints in this graveyard my friend. Both sides taking public shots.
-
the real question is will shawn be appearing as himself or goatboy to plug his new goat protein
???
-
"potential" conflict of interest? when you have FLEX magazine's logo as one of your sponsors there is clearly more then a "potential" conflict there boss.
why isn't steve coming on the show to discuss?
For starters, you'll be glad to know that Mr. Blechman has been invited to appear on the show. In fact, all "parties" know that they are encouraged and welcome to appear. -- The radio show has maintained good relations with both magazines. John Romano has been very supportive of PBW in his MD column....and we have welcomed him on the show 3 or 4 times. Flex Magazine has also provided some tremendous support for the show. We maintain open communication with all parties and we ALWAYS encourage their participation.
-
Now that's some funny politically correct B.S. right there. Your sponsor is Flex Magazine and your co-host is under contract with, oh yeah, AMI, publisher of Flex Magazine. You can't have it both ways. You're insulting our intelligence here.
-
Now that's some funny politically correct B.S. right there. Your sponsor is Flex Magazine and your co-host is under contract with, oh yeah, AMI, publisher of Flex Magazine. You can't have it both ways. You're insulting our intelligence here.
HaterSpice,
You are a creative guy, but you're often quick to pass judgment before things happen. I could see some criticism should it turn into an AMI commercial or a bashfest... but if each side has equal time and the hosts are not opinionated, the show sponsor doesn't have to influence the show's content.
-
Invite Robert Kennedy as well. Lets get a third knowledgable opinion not related to the fighting to help mediate.
-
You're right 240. I am a creative guy, and a bright guy. It's not about hate, just keepin' it real. Take the blinders off. Like the Lee Priest appearance was fair and balanced, right? You remember the 2 on1 where Lee literally could not get a word in edgewise.
-
You're right 240. I am a creative guy, and a bright guy. It's not about hate, just keepin' it real. Take the blinders off. Like the Lee Priest appearance was fair and balanced, right? You remember the 2 on1 where Lee literally could not get a word in edgewise.
I cited that example myself as a way the debate should NOT be run. I was very vocal in my unhappiness about the way the argument was Bob&Shawn vs. Lee, with Dan being a neutral journalist and Bob just firing away. I am fine it that is the announced format and bob/Shawn's combined time = lee's time. but Shawn just talked nonstop and seriously took up more than his share, IMO.
I think that if they come with some tough questions for each side, let the sides ask each other Qs, and give everyone time to say their piece at the end, it could be one of those radio segments we're talking about next year.
If it turns into a Chic soliloquy, interrupted occasionally by some guys muttering at each other about who did what and when, it will be less memorable.
-
This should be an interesting way for us in the peanut gallery to learn more about the writers. I'd suggest a few things:
3) Finally, at the end, I would design a structure and earmark 3 minutes so that each guest can hae 20 seconds to make ONE statement which summarizes his points and positions. Tell them ahead of time so they can write it down. The radio show is awesome but closure is sometimes a little awkward. i'd like to hear each person have EXACTLY 20 seconds to share his composed thoughts with the listeners so that we walk away with the impression of a series of thinking points, not 6 guys yelling over each other as we run out of time.
This is one of the best ideas presented in a long time. Please give this one some serious consideration.
-
Now that's some funny politically correct B.S. right there. Your sponsor is Flex Magazine and your co-host is under contract with, oh yeah, AMI, publisher of Flex Magazine. You can't have it both ways. You're insulting our intelligence here.
I can appreciate your skeptisism. But, to answer your question - YES, we "CAN" have it both ways. -- The facts do not lie. Romano has been featured on our show 3 or 4 times (Fact). MD covers us in their magazine (Fact). Steve Blechman has received several invitations to appear on the radio show (Fact). -- Don't get me wrong, you are completely justified for feeling the way you do. It's hard for some people to comprehend that we are making every effort to showcase opinions and perspectives from ALL camps.
-
See 240, we agree how bad and unfairly run the Lee show. However, Dan was not being a "neutral journalist". Since he is the HOST of the show, neutrality would have been shown by him stopping the double team and making sure that Lee had a chance to speak. That didn't happen and all you have to do is listen to the replay if anyone is delusional enough to think otherwise.
But let's agree on one thing. If anyone is talking about a lousy segment of an internet radio show next year, that person must submit to therapy and we'll all take up a collection to help that person get a life! LMAO
As for you Dan, whatever you may say, you can't escape that Flex is your sponsor (FACT). Bob is your co-host, an AMI paid athlete (FACT). Romano being on the show to talk about the Olympia judging and a 'roundtable" snoozefest doesn't change the prior two facts. (FACT). And that same guy, Romano, doing a piece in his column proves nothing and doesn't change facts 1 and 2. (FACT).
-
I seem to recall Dan tried several times (okay twice) to reel shawn in but Shawn just kept on rambling.
Outside of hanging the guy up what really can be done?
-
But let's agree on one thing. If anyone is talking about a lousy segment of an internet radio show next year, that person must submit to therapy and we'll all take up a collection to help that person get a life! LMAO
the kamali-sued connection was made on that show and he will wear that stink for the rest of his life.
-
Subject: PBW Presents "Magazine Wars" (Monday)
Bodybuilding talk radio returns on Monday as Team MuscleTech presents Pro Bodybuilding Weekly. The one-hour broadcast will feature a closer look at the war of words currently taking place on newsstands between rival magazines. Dan & Bob will also check in with Shawn Ray as PBW looks ahead toward Olympia Weekend. The voice of pro bodybuilding broadcasts LIVE on Monday, September 11th at 8pm EST (5pm pst) for a worldwide audience. Broadcasting at www.ProBodybuildingWeekl y.com
Does this mean that they don't have a guest for this show? Or does this mean that they will have a discussion with a representative from both AMI's and MD's camps?
-
Dont you think its a little inappropriate to call tonights episode : magazine WARS esp since its airing on September 11 ?? Just an opinion from someone who was there ...
-
flex may sponser pbr but whats the worst that can happen dan does come across as neutral even if bob doesnt if flex decide to pull sponsership for something that was said that may have hurt their feelings thats just makes them look bad im sure md would be willing to sponser the show.
-
Magazine wars, right? who will be facing the firing squad tonight?
-
Hi 240 ;D
-
bob, shawn and don will be the only ones you hear from
-
Magazine wars, right? who will be facing the firing squad tonight?
Romano & Lonnie Tepper ...
Sorry that was Larry's show - Last week.
-
isn't ronnie on tonight???
-
tony danza
-
bob, shawn and don will be the only ones you hear from
You really think they'll make it less than a 50/50 split? I think they'll do the right thing and split the time evenly. I know, it's a little less of everyone's favorite guy holding rusty's trophy, but a 50/50 split on talking time would be great for fans who wanna hear both sides of the issue.
-
You really think they'll make it less than a 50/50 split? I think they'll do the right thing and split the time evenly. I know, it's a little less of everyone's favorite guy holding rusty's trophy, but a 50/50 split on talking time would be great for fans who wanna hear both sides of the issue.
If it is fair and equal for both sides then Shawn Ray is the Pope and Rhino will win the NOC. What fantasyland are you in today?
-
If it is fair and equal for both sides then Shawn Ray is the Pope and Rhino will win the NOC. What fantasyland are you in today?
Call me a dreamer, but I have faith. I am betting we'll have a 50/50 split on opinions.
Got your stopwatch ready?
-
Call me a dreamer, but I have faith. I am betting we'll have a 50/50 split on opinions.
Got your stopwatch ready?
delusional. If it's not 50/50 you never post here again.
see ya never again dreamweaver
-
Tonight I will be using two stopwatches to see if indeed, both sides of the magazine aisle receive equal time. I will stop both watches whenever men speak over each other, and I will post times. I encourage you all to do the same. Show is starting-
www.Probodybuildingweekl y.com
-
its not starting
-
its not starting
One of the guys had to call rusty and apologize for stealing his trophy. I'm sure it'll be on momentarily.
-
foreshadowing of what's to come 240... coincidence that the show isn't starting?
-
Hang tight boys...they're having a few technical difficulties at the station.
Show will be ready at 6:15...sorry.
-
foreshadowing of what's to come 240... coincidence that the show isn't starting?
my black stopwatch is for FLEX/AMI. My red stopwatch is for MD.
I will update times each break.
-
hahahahahah oh brother hahahahah
-
Brutal, 8pm sharp!
What would these clowns do if they were on a major network like ESPN?
Dead air for 10 minutes and counting....
Then they wonder why their not on any cable tv anymore ::)
-
my black stopwatch is for FLEX/AMI. My red stopwatch is for MD.
I will update times each break.
Also, I will not be recording Bob's time for AMI - unless he is arguing the merits of their case. Any time he starts presenting their side, they get clocktime added. Same if he chooses to give MD's side of things.
Equality begins, sushi!
-
Hang tight boys...they're having a few technical difficulties at the station.
Show will be ready at 6:15...sorry.
translation... no peter mcgough and no john romano on the show... stay tuned for the don and bob show with their sidekick goatboy talking about how great the new vyotech product is.
btw why does 240 have two stop watches ???
-
Is monday night football delayed too?
-
ps why does 240 have two stop watches ???
Accountability, baby. I actually have one near both computers. Ensures I spend more time working than posting. You'll notice my posts have dropped off a lot lately. Gotta keep the lights on.
-
Is timing them really necessary? Its not like it is scripted or anything.
-
Is timing them really necessary? Its not like it is scripted or anything.
No Peter McGough is missing , here I'll help out ...
CHECK DUNKIN DONUTS!!!
--no just just some dude with big ears asking for ice cream ....... :-*
-
Equality begins, sushi!
Equality begins when MD gets press passes.
-
Is timing them really necessary? Its not like it is scripted or anything.
of course not. but it's just a little tool to see if they give about the same amount of time to both sides of this argument. Some have said they might not, or that Bob Chic, an AMI bedfellow, might skew things a bit. Sponsorship issues too.
This will be a way to see exactly how it's split.
So far,
FLEX 0:00
MD 0:00
-
Getbiggers....we have a problem
-
of course not. but it's just a little tool to see if they give about the same amount of time to both sides of this argument. Some have said they might not, or that Bob Chic, an AMI bedfellow, might skew things a bit. Sponsorship issues too.
This will be a way to see exactly how it's split.
So far,
FLEX 0:00
MD 0:00
flex is a sponsor, shawn perine, flex writer is part of the show credits, bob is ami emcee as is shawn and don, all of them have contracts with ami/weider
FLEX - 6
MD - 0
-
flex is a sponsor, shawn perine, flex writer is part of the show credits, bob is ami emcee as is shawn and don, all of them have contracts with ami/weider
FLEX - 6
MD - 0
Its on now? I'm not getting anything.
-
We are doing the show right now...it will be run at 6:00 PST.
They're having a problem with linking up the show for some reason....sorry for the inconvenience.
-
flex is a sponsor, shawn perine, flex writer is part of the show credits, bob is ami emcee as is shawn and don, all of them have contracts with ami/weider
FLEX - 6
MD - 0
Which is exactly why watchdog groups like the Pencil Peanut Gallery exist. When the masters pro turned into a gift exchange in which no one pulled Rusty's name, the peanut gallery jumped into action. When a Jersey Princess was given a gift fit for a Wolf, the Peanut gallery was there.
Tonight we shall keep them honest.
-
We are doing the show right now...it will be run at 6:00 PST.
They're having a problem with linking up the show for some reason....sorry for the inconvenience.
Is it weather related? I'm checking Doppler
-
Show will be ready at 6:15...sorry.
6:15 what time zone ??? 8:23 on my watch
-
Hey, how about that? I just got in the door...so I'm not unhappy it's delayed.
-
this is no coincidence that there is no live show stop playing the gallery for peanuts
-
Damn Chick. Got Monday Night Football goin on, my fantasy team is gettin smoked, and WWE Raw comes on at 9 also. Son of a bitch.............
-
Attention to all:
Due to the fact the the radio show is hosted by an AMI athlete - and giving preference to AMI and Flex Magazine - Muscular Development has hijacked the show - and it will not heard today.
The war has began - and the AMI run radio show has now being held hostage by MD. If they give MD a fair shake on the radio - the tape will be released to the general public for their listening pleasure.
-
There is a one hour time delay to get rid on any unflattering remarks against AMI, and to put more negatie remarks against MD. Let's get it going boys - we want it live and uncensored.
-
There is a one hour time delay to get rid on any unflattering remarks against AMI, and to put more negatie remarks against MD. Let's get it going boys - we want it live and uncensored.
The StopWatchDogs, a division of Peanut gallery, Inc will be handling that.
FLEX 0:00
MD 0:00
-
Get yer pens 'n pencils ready!
-
Mechanical pencils are acceptable if no other option is available.
-
Who do you guys think is #1 in magazine sales? I like both Flex and MD but M&F is kinda Men's Healthish to me. MD is always thicker and more entertaining though,
-
Dangit, my bucktooth jack ass forget to buy some pens and pencils
-
MD is always thicker and more entertaining
So you find thicker things to be more entertaining? interesting.
-
So you find thicker things to be more entertaining? interesting.
HMMM bad choice of words! ;D I meant the magazine has more info/pages.
-
Who do you guys think is #1 in magazine sales? I like both Flex and MD but M&F is kinda Men's Healthish to me. MD is always thicker and more entertaining though,
All bodybuilding mags are a waste of the paper they're printed on: ads for useless products, incorrect bullshit training and nutrition "advice", and contest news and gossip that was on the boards three months ago!
-
We are doing the show right now...it will be run at 6:00 PST.
They're having a problem with linking up the show for some reason....sorry for the inconvenience.
It's now 6:09 PST. No show!
-
is this delay for censoring purposes?!? ???
-
is this delay for censoring purposes?!? ???
Probably... is Romano on the show? ;D
-
Probably... is Romano on the show? ;D
Maybe they killed each other?!
-
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radioarchive.htm
The link is already up but not working.... ???
-
Show should be up in 5-10 minutes...
-
its up!
-
Show should be up in 5-10 minutes...
It's up now
-
Sorry Guys! Another technical crisis at the studio. The replay is up and running. - Enjoy. www.ProBodybuildingWeekly.com (http://www.ProBodybuildingWeekly.com)
-
Sorry Guys! Another technical crisis at the studio. The replay is up and running. - Enjoy. www.ProBodybuildingWeekly.com (http://www.ProBodybuildingWeekly.com)
Dan, what are you guys doing with sponsorship money?
-
Dan, what are you guys doing with sponsorship money?
Sponsor dollars go toward Bob's hair gel allowance and his wedding fund. :)
-
lol crack pipes gota love it.
-
Sponsor dollars go toward Bob's hair gel allowance
Haha, classic!
-
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
This time difference in INSANE.
Stopwatch just went out the window.
www.ProBodybuildingWeekl y.com
-
Great promotion for the $50 gift certificate!!! Getbiggers have to be happy with that!
-
It's better than getting a Shawn Ray bobble-head.
-
Bob: "Nothing like throwing a few peanuts to the gallery"
;D
-
Dan: "Yes, folks, I did just say 'Pecker' on the radio!"
-
Romano calls "Meltdown" on Pecker! ;D
-
I pretty much disagree with everything shawn said. MD is hardcore and thats why I buy it.
-
That depends on your definition of "hardcore"...
Shawn also pointed out that he enjoys the BB articles by the respective pro's, etc...just not the "filler" that has nothing to do with BB per se...
-
Chickster......
GOOD SHOW!!!.... hey about bringing some foreign competitors on board.. I m sure many foreign fans will love this!!!
thanks
one
That depends on your definition of "hardcore"...
Shawn also pointed out that he enjoys the BB articles by the respective pro's, etc...just not the "filler" that has nothing to do with BB per se...
-
lee flipping the middle finger is not going to upset anyone. thats the stuff im talking about its not a big deal this isnt the 17th century anymore
-
lee flipping the middle finger is not going to upset anyone. thats the stuff im talking about its not a big deal this isnt the 17th century anymore
I don't think it's the end of the world either...the question is...does it LEND anything to the magazine?
Does it add any value to have 15 pages devoted to some porno chick? Columns that have nothing to do with BB? Sex cartoons?
As I said...they have cleaned up their act considerably over the last few years, but they need to stay focused on BB, first and foremost.
-
I think they have already gotten rid of most of the trash with in the last few years so it is not really an issue now, atleast not nearly as bad as shawn made it out to be.
-
Based on his comments on the radio show, I'm beginning to think Shawn doesn't like Shari very much! ;D
-
does anyone have the lowdown on how the whole ray kamali fued began? What was the first shot?
-
As a MD writer and a part time reader of many of the magazines (bathroom time permitting), i do think that many of the articles on training, the science side, nutrition (Alway, Fleck in MD; Jim S in Flex) have a lot of merit. All of the magazines need to spend more time educating all body builders the importance of health check ups and what tests to be done at what age and especially if you use gear. I would also think that since so many Pros and a few others are so focused on BB and forget to learn about a second career or investing, that there is merit to a small financial and career oriented column - to remind people that life does not revolve around the squat rack or the EZ curl bar.
Anyway, back to MNF.
-
240 - what's the final watch count? MD came out on the winning end for air time, no question about that - MONSTER AIR TIME FOR ROMANO and MD! JOHN OWNED FLEX on the is episode.
"comeback ambitions"... way to take credit for the Don Long comeback Chicaroo - you were wanting him to guest pose and not compete when he appeared on the show earlier. "I have had to work very hard on my end behind the scenes to even get it to that point..." "I'd love to see Don back on stage again" MONSTER BULLSHIT
shawn and bob rag on md AFTER romano is off the show... quality job guys ::) AMI EMCEE's sucking up to AMI - who would have thought of that on the show ???
no body wants to see naked girl's with whip cream? speak for yourselves guys.
-
Brutal, 8pm sharp!
What would these clowns do if they were on a major network like ESPN?
Dead air for 10 minutes and counting....
Then they wonder why their not on any cable tv anymore ::)
You ever see this shit hapenning on Sporstcenter? ::)
Monster professionalism.........
-
240 - what's the final watch count? MD came out on the winning end for air time, no question about that - MONSTER AIR TIME FOR ROMANO and MD! JOHN OWNED FLEX on the is episode.
"comeback ambitions"... way to take credit for the Don Long comeback Chicaroo - you were wanting him to guest pose and not compete when he appeared on the show earlier. "I have had to work very hard on my end behind the scenes to even get it to that point..." "I'd love to see Don back on stage again" MONSTER BULLSHIT
shawn and bob rag on md AFTER romano is off the show... quality job guys ::) AMI EMCEE's sucking up to AMI - who would have thought of that on the show ???
no body wants to see naked girl's with whip cream? speak for yourselves guys.
I've talked to Don on the matter...from day one.
I STILL dont like the idea of Don taking the stage again, personally.
My personal feelings aside....as his rep, I did all I could to make it a possibility for Don to compete again...thats my job.
As for "ragging" on MD...Shawn has his opinion, as do I, etc....John isn't in charge of the content of the mag...he himself may agree or disagree with the format...apparently someone else within the company had the same outlook, as the look and content of the mag has changed 180 degrees on numerous occasions (as I said on the show)...
-
I've talked to Don on the matter...from day one.
I STILL dont like the idea of Don taking the stage again, personally.
My personal feelings aside....as his rep, I did all I could to make it a possibility for Don to compete again...thats my job.
Hey Chic,
Is Don Long planning a comeback?
-
As for "ragging" on MD...Shawn has his opinion, as do I, etc....John isn't in charge of the content of the mag...he himself may agree or disagree with the format...apparently someone else within the company had the same outlook, as the look and content of the mag has changed 180 degrees on numerous occasions (as I said on the show)...
True enough. All admit though when it comes down to it I buy both flex and md because I love bodybuilding and any information out there is good to know.
-
... way to take credit for the Don Long comeback Chicaroo -
Why not... he tried to take credit for the Kamali "comeback". ;D ;D
-
Hey Chic,
Is Don Long planning a comeback?
No...he's not. Matter of fact, he's been quite clear that he is NOT making a comeback...just wants to compete one more time to prove something to himself, and inspire others afflicted with the same condition.
-
I've talked to Don on the matter...from day one.
Bob, that was really awesome how you had the scoop all along on the Don Long scoop. Question though - why did you deny it for four days and mock those who posted it (um, me), then when FLEXonline pwned you like a crackhead's VCR, you disappeared for 4 days?
Was the part of the master plan? if so, good work champ!
-
does anyone have the lowdown on how the whole ray kamali fued began? What was the first shot?
Kamali started it with his big mouth a long time ago, but it looks like Shawn's getting the last laugh.
-
Bob, that was really awesome how you had the scoop all along on the Don Long scoop. Question though - why did you deny it for four days and mock those who posted it (um, me), then when FLEXonline pwned you like a crackhead's VCR, you disappeared for 4 days?
Was the part of the master plan? if so, good work champ!
It was all just a big ruse to get you to post more naked pictures of yourself...and embarrass yourself like the predictable fool you are... as expected,you delivered right on cue.
Good work, chump!
-
It was all just a big ruse to get you to post more naked pictures of yourself...
Next week on PBBW: Dan quizzes Bob on his strange obsession with naked pics of some fat kid from southwest Florida!
-
Obsession? hardly...
Just pointing out the obvious.
-
Good work, chump!
yeah, namecalling usually follows being owned. Then threats and lawsuits. The peanut gallery is onto you, champ!
Good show tho!
-
Ever notice that my responses are in kind to yours? If you were just act normal, 240...you wouldn't get half the shit you do. Instead of trying to "Pwn" someone every time you post...why not try and make a point, or contribute to the discussion somehow?
-
Ever notice that my responses are in kind to yours? If you were just act normal, 240...you wouldn't get half the shit you do. Instead of trying to "Pwn" someone every time you post...why not try and make a point, or contribute to the discussion somehow?
Pwned.
-
Granted I do read MD a few times per year, I offered them a chance to get on Sirius satellite but Blechman declined. So I don't think professionalism is top on their list.
-
Ever notice that my responses are in kind to yours? If you were just act normal, 240...you wouldn't get half the shit you do. Instead of trying to "Pwn" someone every time you post...why not try and make a point, or contribute to the discussion somehow?
bob, i only give you heat because you made up some horrible shit about me and never apologized or took it back. I have quit beating on everyone here, i've given olive branches to just about everyone man. It's just, you use the word 'fool' to address anyone with a differing opinion from yours, and you called me a horrible thing based upon a damn AOL proxy block. And my offer to take a poly for $10k still stands on that.
That's why I still rip on your. I leave everyone else alone. And if you can ever apologize for the horrible shit you lied about, I'll leave you alone too.
-
bob, i only give you heat because you made up some horrible shit about me and never apologized or took it back. I have quit beating on everyone here, i've given olive branches to just about everyone man. It's just, you use the word 'fool' to address anyone with a differing opinion from yours, and you called me a horrible thing based upon a damn AOL proxy block. And my offer to take a poly for $10k still stands on that.
That's why I still rip on your. I leave everyone else alone. And if you can ever apologize for the horrible shit you lied about, I'll leave you alone too.
Don't make up guys, your tantrums equate to Kamili and Titus a few years back. It's kinda Jerry Springerish..
-
For real, if I made a horrible claim like that, and I was proven wrong, I would say something like "damn man, that was kinda a big thing to accuse, and yea, the AOL proxy stuff makes sense. Sorry bout that one" and do the right thing.
-
It was never proven you DIDN'T post it either...only that it was possible that someone else POSSIBLY could have had thee same proxy, etc.
I'm sure it was just a big coincidence that YOU were the one who posted it on Getbig...YOU were the one who was also posting on BB.com, and YOU also had the same IP as the person who posted it....
My bad, 240...we'll just chalk it up to circumstantial coincidence...
-
It was never proven you DIDN'T post it either...only that it was possible that someone else POSSIBLY could have had thee same proxy, etc.
I'm sure it was just a big coincidence that YOU were the one who posted it on Getbig...YOU were the one who was also posting on BB.com, and YOU also had the same IP as the person who posted it....
My bad, 240...we'll just chalk it up to circumstantial coincidence...
cool. Any my offer to take a polygraph on a wager will stand til the day I die.
-
cool. Any my offer to take a polygraph on a wager will stand til the day I die.
Wager? I believe that already got you in trouble!
-
AOL uses proxy blocks. At any given time, you might have 20 to 100 users on BBing.com using the same IP block. They just send all the packets at once.
That punk was using some program which posted something like 200 posts a minute, just unreal. And we were battling back then bob. So you know if I had known how to do it, it surely wouldn't have been that redneck drivel. It would have been a very witty baghdad bob image of course :)
All is well tho!
-
Wager? I believe that already got you in trouble!
LOL... My only trouble is figuring out where I'm spending your hard earned money after coleman wins #9!
-
LOL... My only trouble is figuring out where I'm spending your hard earned money after coleman wins #9!
I'm donating your entire savings to Lee's charity! :o I wonder if he'll give me a plaque for it. . . .
-
LOL... My only trouble is figuring out where I'm spending your hard earned money after coleman wins #9!
Emfamil and pampers?
-
Emfamil and pampers?
Bob, are you stocking already?
-
Emfamil and pampers?
Right? My King Ron Championship fund is already earmarked for a nice baby swing should I win, as much as I would have preferred a bottle of jaeger and a few lap dances.
-
Right? My King Ron Championship fund is already earmarked for a nice baby swing should I win, as much as I would have preferred a bottle of jaeger and a few lap dances.
What would Jesus do?
-
Sorry 240 all the things you did in the past nobody believes you. You are a liar :-\
-
240, please take this and go play with it on the Freeway!
You can thank me later ;D
-
240, please take this and go play with it on the Freeway!
You can thank me later ;D
Follow the signs, shawn. Turn around before it's too late!
-
Hey Rob, Is that a PRS you're playing in the above B&W pic?
Yessir :)
I guess your still bright enough to believe Bush had aliens to knock down the twin towers ::)
Huh? Do I believe there should be a new 911 investigation? Sure. Can you tell you 20 glaring holes in the official story which point to complicity of groups outside of ONYA, sure. But they want us to save that stuff for the general boards.
-
Yessir :)
Cool axe, still own it? what color is the maple top?
-
Cool axe, still own it? what color is the maple top?
Emerald Green, translucent toner over ash. She's long gone. Strictly les paul these days
-
I've talked to Don on the matter...from day one.
I STILL dont like the idea of Don taking the stage again, personally.
My personal feelings aside....as his rep, I did all I could to make it a possibility for Don to compete again...thats my job.
As for "ragging" on MD...Shawn has his opinion, as do I, etc....John isn't in charge of the content of the mag...he himself may agree or disagree with the format...apparently someone else within the company had the same outlook, as the look and content of the mag has changed 180 degrees on numerous occasions (as I said on the show)...
You talked to Don on the matter but wanted him to guest pose, not compete... You say on here you STILL don't like the idea of him taking the stage, yet on the show you state you look forward to seeing him to taking the stage, which is it? As his rep you did all you could to keep him off the stage and we all saw it here and heard you on the show....your show coined it "comeback ambitions", so you must have it right here and not on your show, there is no comeback.
Tonight I will be using two stopwatches to see if indeed, both sides of the magazine aisle receive equal time. I will stop both watches whenever men speak over each other, and I will post times. I encourage you all to do the same. Show is starting-
www.Probodybuildingweekl y.com
240 - still waiting for the time clock on the 50/50 split of fair and equality...
-
Stopwatch? Seriously guys, who gives a damn? Now we're timing who talks for how long? This is a radio show not a Senate hearing. Pathetic, so pathetic.
-
What is pathetic is that Chick and/or Shawn have no clue how to run a magazine, how to obtain quality content for the magazine and add to that have the audacity to criticize MD for changing formats over the years. Not only do these small-minded folk not understand the influence of being a public company (when Twinlab owned MD, before Steve Blechman bought the publishing arm of Twinlab), but they also do not acknolwedge the fact that there "own" Muscle and Fitness and Flex also have changed formats and content since AMI bought it as well as over the years. If you remember, back when Muscle Media was up and coming, it rankled Joe Weider and he had Flex try to be more edgy (never cam close) while adding some science to MnF (which in academia is known as Muscle and Fiction).
So, here we have AMI/Weider Publishing lackees bashing John R and MD AFTER John is not on the internet radio show...wow, so smooth there boys. Man-up and note that the more magazines that cover the Olympia and promote the BB's, the better chance that the BB's can make some money and have a career.
-
dknole, agreed. Why would Bob and Shawn keep referencing whipped cream, naked chicks, and overt sexual content in MD? Was'nt that shit like 4 years ago or something? Talk about coming onto the show with an agenda to try to take some steam out of MD. Once Romano was gone the show became nothing more than more AMI bullshit. This is getting old.
-
dknole, agreed. Why would Bob and Shawn keep referencing whipped cream, naked chicks, and overt sexual content in MD? Was'nt that shit like 4 years ago or something? Talk about coming onto the show with an agenda to try to take some steam out of MD. Once Romano was gone the show became nothing more than more AMI bullshit. This is getting old.
Should we expect anything different from two gents that made/make their livelyhood off of Weider/IFBB/AMI? What are they going to do next year when Ben Weider owns the Olympia again and sells the marketing rights to MD or Muscletech?
-
dman shawn ray really justifies wat ever he says..he is one of those pros who have logic in almost each and every statement he makes.this guy is wat bodybuilding wants.he is a true IFBB rep along with the great bob chick
-
What did anybody expect? Everytime anyone gets riled up for PBW they get let down. When King came all he rambled about was suing people, blah blah blah, instead of what he said he was going to do (bring Shawn Ray out). Lets think about it for a second. These are two magazines!!!!!!! I got amped up about it a week or so ago but when I came back to earth I thought "Who really cares?". I mean MD is ad after ad after ad. Palumbo telling idiot fans how to ruin they're physique and health and a couple mediocre articles from athletes talking the same bullshit they said last year around Olympia time. "Eating clean, dialed in, on schedule."
Flex is worse. Whoever they're recently signed athlete is, is shoved down our throat for 8 months leading up to the O. Then they actually print odds on who will win, is there any question anyway? In closing who cares? If the magazines arent competing to make the product any better than shut the fuck up.
-
If not for "the magazines" how do you think bodybuilding would have gotten as far as it has today? there was no internet when the Weiders began. So now because the net is here, suddenly print should be discounted as having no merit? Wrong. The net may be getting info out faster etc., but for the time being there is still a place for magazines.
As far as the editorial slant of Flex and MD, they both put out a product that they believe will sell...Remember, they are in BUSINESS here. Just because you do not appreciate the article content they have does not mean that everyone feels the same way. If that was the case, then the mags would have no sales, zero ad dollar support and would find themselves out of business.
-
If not for "the magazines" how do you think bodybuilding would have gotten as far as it has today? there was no internet when the Weiders began. So now because the net is here, suddenly print should be discounted as having no merit? Wrong. The net may be getting info out faster etc., but for the time being there is still a place for magazines.
Yeah, their place is redundancy, obsolescence, and the reporting of 2-month-old "news".
In 2006, a paper magazine is about as useful as a buggy whip.
-
Yeah, their place is redundancy, obsolescence, and the reporting of 2-month-old "news".
In 2006, a paper magazine is about as useful as a buggy whip.
Because "Goatboy" said so ::)
-
Because "Goatboy" said so ::)
And if G o a t b o y says so, you can count on it being true.
Hope this helps.
-
And if G o a t b o y says so, you can count on it being true.
Hope this helps.
Actually it's no help at all. :)
-
Bob, that was really awesome how you had the scoop all along on the Don Long scoop. Question though - why did you deny it for four days and mock those who posted it (um, me), then when FLEXonline pwned you like a crackhead's VCR, you disappeared for 4 days?
Was the part of the master plan? if so, good work champ!
You don'texpect Bob to actually admit he was wrong
or that he made a complete ass of himself, do you?
-
You don'texpect Bob to actually admit he was wrong
or that he made a complete ass of himself, do you?
He's wrong so much, and makes a complete ass of himself so often, that if he admitted it every time it occurred, he'd have nothing to say but negative things about himself. People would think he had no self-esteem at all.