if dexters 250 at the olympia it will be watching from row 7 fully clothed with boots on, the guy doesant even blow out off season he just gets about 10 pouinds heavier and a fair bit softer obviously as he smartly cleans himself out, before going hard for the next contest, i believe he could have won a few olympias already the guys shape is great and he still resembles the human anatomy unlike ronnie, no comment on Jay he doesnt rate in my book, just red and bloated i just cant figure it out, i would nt have him anywhere near the top.