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Title: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 27, 2006, 08:33:26 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4168667096306129265&q=philadelphia+experiment&hl=en



if ya do your research...this is the real thing folks..

if you insist on being impatient..watch min 14 and onward..
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 27, 2006, 08:37:11 PM


the devil..lies in the details folks...unless its more comfy to overlook those details and just cal me a conspiracy theorist...


man o man..i teach some of Americas finest about internet security..ya better hope i aint a quack... :-X
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 27, 2006, 09:06:45 PM
unified field theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_unified_field_theory


or GUTS...grand unified theories..the holy grail of physics...
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Nordic Superman on December 28, 2006, 02:42:47 AM
You are a quack and know little about internet security :-X :-*
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 03:39:24 AM
a lot of truth right up to the philadelphia crap... That one guy was so clearly reading a story rather than telling from experience.  I gotta call BS on that shit and I've been following this story since the 80's.  It's crap.  There was a great movie with a similiar theme but via accident that was one of my favorite movies: The Final Countdown
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 10:27:31 AM
You are a quack and know little about internet security :-X :-*

of course...i dont deal in firewalls mate..


not my job..  ;)

and this is related to this thread how?
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 10:29:09 AM
a lot of truth right up to the philadelphia crap... That one guy was so clearly reading a story rather than telling from experience.  I gotta call BS on that shit and I've been following this story since the 80's.  It's crap.  There was a great movie with a similiar theme but via accident that was one of my favorite movies: The Final Countdown


http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/



so far fetched when the military is still to this day doing research on remote viewing?
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 10:44:11 AM

http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/



so far fetched when the military is still to this day doing research on remote viewing?
Oh shiet... Please don't tell me you actually believe Maj Ed Dames, he popularized this crap in the 90's and so far he's only turned out to be bullshit. As far as I know the army does not actively research in this area any more.  remote viewing is bullshit...
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 11:05:33 AM
army does not actively research in this area any more.  remote viewing is bullshit...

ok ..fine but key words..ANYMORE...if they researched something so far out..what makes ya think they didn't research bending light waves by using electromagnetism?


i mean gravity bends light...


Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
ok ..fine but key words..ANYMORE...if they researched something so far out..what makes ya think they didn't research bending light waves by using electromagnetism?


i mean gravity bends light...




fooie... Do you have any idea of how much gravity it would require to bend the light completely around a ship?  If that much gravity took place in the vicinity of that ship, there would not be anybody left looking remotely human to tell about it.  You would need a force so much greather than the earth's gravity.  the ocean would have welled up around the ship and when the gravitational field dropped, the shores would have been flooded with a wave.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 11:31:48 AM
fooie... Do you have any idea of how much gravity it would require to bend the light completely around a ship?  If that much gravity took place in the vicinity of that ship, there would not be anybody left looking remotely human to tell about it.  You would need a force so much greather than the earth's gravity.  the ocean would have welled up around the ship and when the gravitational field dropped, the shores would have been flooded with a wave.

i didn't say gravity..i said electromagnetism..   http://www.wlap.org/wl-repository/umich/phys/satmorn/2004/20040313-umwlap001-01-campbell/realaudio/sld001.htm

at the core all forces are the same...

which is the holy grail of physics..which is to unify all the forces..a grand unified theory..

there r partial grand unified theories...not a complete one yet...


http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/spr/2001-11/msg0036574.html
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 28, 2006, 11:48:48 AM
tox,

by attacking your networking credentials, he manages to avoid arguing the facts of this, which he no comprehende.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
tox,

by attacking your networking credentials, he manages to avoid arguing the facts of this, which he no comprehende.

i used to live in a nice little universe where everything ws what it ws...

where everything ws what it seemed..



now..i realize HARDLY anything is what it seems...
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 12:15:02 PM
Light has no charge so it can't be bent by an electromatic field.  To a very small degree, so small it's hard to measure, light can be scattered some or spit into several rays by an extremely strong EM wave, it's a quantum effect called Delbruck scattering.  So yo need gravity to bent light and you did actually say gravity tox.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 12:15:59 PM
i used to live in a nice little universe where everything ws what it ws...

where everything ws what it seemed..



now..i realize HARDLY anything is what it seems...
This I agree with ;D
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 12:32:11 PM
Light has no charge so it can't be bent by an electromatic field.  To a very small degree, so small it's hard to measure, light can be scattered some or spit into several rays by an extremely strong EM wave, it's a quantum effect called Delbruck scattering.  So yo need gravity to bent light and you did actually say gravity tox.


a few posts above i say electromagnetism...

an then  i say " i mean gravity bends light" soo why not electromagnetism...


well..how strong an EM wave can military projects come up with?

Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 12:40:53 PM

a few posts above i say electromagnetism...

an then  i say " i mean gravity bends light" soo why not electromagnetism...


well..how strong an EM wave can military projects come up with?


To completely scatter all light, ahahaha... it's not happening. It's doubtfull they could have a strong enough em wave to visibly blur an object and that's all that could happen, if you totally scattered all light, it would probably just look like a gray blur rather than how gravity bends light around a mass.  So since it would have to be electromagnetic and the report was that it went invisible, then it's bullshit.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 12:52:07 PM
To completely scatter all light, ahahaha... it's not happening. It's doubtfull they could have a strong enough em wave to visibly blur an object and that's all that could happen, if you totally scattered all light, it would probably just look like a gray blur rather than how gravity bends light around a mass.  So since it would have to be electromagnetic and the report was that it went invisible, then it's bullshit.

the vid says it ws a green blur...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12961080/


technology is trickeled down to the masses...
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 01:10:52 PM
Hello.... Earth to Tox... remember a very strong EM wave is needed to even measure the effect to a small extent.  So how strong would it need to be to blur out the ship so that it disapeared into a blur?  ahahaha something like 100 times stronger than a magnetar... Please tell us all what happens to the earth when that switch is hit ;D
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 01:19:28 PM
did ya read that link up there>?
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 01:21:03 PM
Tox, watch that guy that's relating the story... You cannot tell me that it does not stick out like a sore thumb that he is reading from a story rather than relating experience.  Go back and listen to that, it's so obvious.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 01:32:18 PM
Tox, watch that guy that's relating the story... You cannot tell me that it does not stick out like a sore thumb that he is reading from a story rather than relating experience.  Go back and listen to that, it's so obvious.

there r other better links..i just posted the shortest vid...


here read this story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12961080/
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 01:52:44 PM
Well, you just completely changed the argument with that tox... To go this route, and this is a completely different route than your electromagnetic theory, they would have to have cloaked the ship in a manmade material with nano structures smaller than the wavelength of the light to be bent.  Again, I know we're advanced, but no way on this one back then.  Didn't happen, sorry...  Plus none of that was remotely close to their description.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 01:55:34 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7027255937915952897&q=philadelphia+experiment
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 02:05:56 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7027255937915952897&q=philadelphia+experiment
How does anti gravity relate to this?  What is this Tox, the throw everything but the kitchen sink approach to proving your point?  ???
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:08:34 PM
How does anti gravity relate to this?  What is this Tox, the throw everything but the kitchen sink approach to proving your point?  ???


ahh if ya have read about hutchenson <sp?> he also reports a greenish mist at times in his room where he conducts his experiments..exactly  what reported in the phili experiment

a lot of his experiments with electromagnetism were influenced by the phili experiment..

he also has been harassed quite a bit by the canadian govt..his equiptment taken away..

sorry i just sometimes assume everyone reads up on this  :-[
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:09:19 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=hutchinson+effect+philadelphia+experiment&spell=1
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
I follow a lot of this and THIS IS BULLSHIT...  ::)
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 02:12:36 PM
This "Hutchison Effect" has been claimed for years, without any independent verification - ever. In fact, its originator can't even replicated [sic] it on demand. This has been investigated more than once, been part of documentaries on the discovery channel, but still never seems to pass critical muster. This is in the category of folklore. In general, the "American Antigravity" web site caters to such folklore and its enthusiasts.

—Marc G. Millis
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:13:25 PM
This "Hutchison Effect" has been claimed for years, without any independent verification - ever. In fact, its originator can't even replicated [sic] it on demand. This has been investigated more than once, been part of documentaries on the discovery channel, but still never seems to pass critical muster. This is in the category of folklore. In general, the "American Antigravity" web site caters to such folklore and its enthusiasts.

—Marc G. Millis


i dont believe its just so cut and dry...
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 02:22:09 PM
i dont believe its just so cut and dry...
In one of the clips you can see a fishing line or thin string of some kind bobling the object... when busted with this he has some lame exuse for the string...

""The string is not string but #32-gauge double polythermalized wire on a takeup up reel with 20 to 50000 volts DC. The the main apparatus was turned on, causing the toy plastic ufo to fly all about in amazing gyrations. This was a pretest to gryphon films airing this fall for fox TV. I did not need the extra high voltage 2000 time period so the toy levitated without a high voltage hook up during the filming for gryphon there was a string on the toy no high-voltage dc but interesting movements."

That's pretty cut and dry bullshit....
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:27:29 PM
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-2.htm

there...you live in your world and i'll live in mine!  :)
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:29:47 PM

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-2.htm
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 02:36:37 PM
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-2.htm

there...you live in your world and i'll live in mine!  :)
But you ARE in my world ;D  I believe a lot of stuff, follow a lot of conspiracies and phenomena, even supernatural things... People say the movie conspiracy theory was based on me... ;D But I know when to call BS on something.  Dude there are so many people out there who are just out to make a buck off of bullshit.  They make up some crap and get on coast to coast or Rense and pawn some stupid video or book and suckers eat it up.  Part of being a good conspiracy theorist is being a good skeptic too.  Crap like this is what gives us all a bad name and zero credibility.  Know when to call bullshit...  Some of that UFO stuff you posted is BS too and I believe in ET, some of the stuff out there is pretty credible.
Title: Re: The philadelphia experiment: yall NEED to watch this.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 02:49:33 PM
But you ARE in my world ;D  I believe a lot of stuff, follow a lot of conspiracies and phenomena, even supernatural things... People say the movie conspiracy theory was based on me... ;D But I know when to call BS on something.  Dude there are so many people out there who are just out to make a buck off of bullshit.  They make up some crap and get on coast to coast or Rense and pawn some stupid video or book and suckers eat it up.  Part of being a good conspiracy theorist is being a good skeptic too.  Crap like this is what gives us all a bad name and zero credibility.  Know when to call bullshit...  Some of that UFO stuff you posted is BS too and I believe in ET, some of the stuff out there is pretty credible.


how is this bullshit??


its NASA footage  :-\

in spare time..watch part 1 and 2


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=evidence+ufo