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Announcement - Episode #219
PBW Presents: "Kai Greene - On the Record" (Replay Now Available)
From his Vegas Disappointment......to his longtime Guru. - Kai Comes Clean!
This Week on PBW: From the moment Kai Greene walked on stage at last years Olympia, the bodybuilding world started asking questions. Coming off back to back Arnold Classic victories, most insiders felt Kai was ready to take a run at Cutler's title. But, in one of the biggest surprises of the year, Kai fell completely out of the Olympia's Top 6, and his improbable rise toward the top came to a screeching stop. - On this weeks edition of bodybuilding talk radio, the questions are finally asked; What really happened in Las Vegas? Is Kai truly done with his longtime guru Oscar Ardon? Has the Predator turned to George Farah to get himself back on track? -- Some of Kai's answers just may surprise you! -- Presented by MuscleTech, this weeks broadcast also features inside reports from around the IFBB: "Rockel vs Branch", "Flex Lewis's Next Decision", and More!
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oh boy cant wait
ill make sure i leave work early to get home so i can tune in
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Did kai and Oscar patch things up yet?
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Do Kai and Oscar speak anymore? Did he really jump ship to George Farah?
I still say he crushes Heath! It's not even close. With Farah, he'll be even better.
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Kai is the next Mr Olympia - He just has to get it all together at the right time. Worth a bet on him for 2011...
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he lost me with comparing bbers to "gladiators in the trenches"
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Some crazy shit must of gone down between these two. Kai goes on PBW. Dan asks him what went down with Oscar. Kai says he's finished with the guy and now with George Farra. They then asked him if he has anything to say to Oscar and Kai refuses to say anything to Oscar. WTF. These guys were inseparable!! Kai also said he didn't know he was off at the Olympia until after the 3rd callout. Say what?
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he lost me with comparing bbers to "gladiators in the trenches"
real shit rite there
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Oscar was poisoning Kai's mind with all of that over indulgent, self help, metaphysical tripe
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Oscar was poisoning Kai's mind with all of that over indulgent, self help, metaphysical tripe
Ah...A mind such as Kai's is indeed, a terrible thing, to, ummmmmm....waste. Yeah, that's it. To waste. Or to better facilitate Kai being able to "read" this: 2 WAySTe.
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kai's going to war.
not in the david henry sense.
no, kai is about it FOR REALZ.
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Oscar was poisoning Kai's mind with all of that over indulgent, self help, metaphysical tripe
hahah now that makes sense, I figured he didnt pick up all that junk he was talking in the hood
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Oscar had Kai on "MEGA DOSES", it was causing Kai's health to degenerate, he had to make the move to save his life.
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Oscar was probably scamming money from Kai. Kai finally realized Oscar was using him as a meal ticket, things went sour.
Or maybe the condom just broke while Oscar was fucking him up the ass?
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What about the rumors that Kai was dying?
Seems like he'll actually compete in a few weeks time but is keeping a low profile.
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Some crazy shit must of gone down between these two. Kai goes on PBW. Dan asks him what went down with Oscar. Kai says he's finished with the guy and now with George Farra. They then asked him if he has anything to say to Oscar and Kai refuses to say anything to Oscar. WTF. These guys were inseparable!! Kai also said he didn't know he was off at the Olympia until after the 3rd callout. Say what?
Who is Oscar?
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yes, Farah's DNP/Tren regiment is best known for its health benefits
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yes, Farah's DNP/Tren regiment is best known for it's health benefits
;D
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Dont worry DavidM, their relationship is like the NFL labor talks. Very complex and very important to millions of people. Just give it time.
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Ah...A mind such as Kai's is indeed, a terrible thing, to, ummmmmm....waste. Yeah, that's it. To waste. Or to better facilitate Kai being able to "read" this: 2 WAySTe.
I've never seen Kai misspell words in such a fashion. He's likely smarter and more well read than you.
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yes, Farah's DNP/Tren regiment is best known for its health benefits
LOL :-\
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I've never seen Kai misspell words in such a fashion. He's likely smarter and more well read than you.
Reeves is a wannabe Hemmingway. He writes in fruity English and tries to portray himself as well-educated. Many ugly and nerdy people take this path to try to get laid and be respected.
Everybody's trying to be something.....
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Kai has nothing to say to Oscar and for good reason. Oscar is a fucking scumbag.
I hope you read this Oscar. You're a slimy, fat, piece of shit.
Give Kai the money you owe him you stupid son of a bitch.
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WHO IS OSCAR??
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WHO IS OSCAR??
Oscar is the dirty lowlife that disguised himself as a trainer/guru and took Kai for a fool while stealing more than half of his contest earnings.
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Oscar is the dirty lowlife that disguised himself as a trainer/guru and took Kai for a fool while stealing more than half of his contest earnings.
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Gotcha. Never heard of this person.
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Gotcha. Never heard of this person.
You would never even look in this bastard's direction. You're a man of class with a solid clientele who swear by your work. This guy is just a scumbag, plain and simple.
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You would never even look in this bastard's direction. You're a man of class with a solid clientele who swear by your work. This guy is just a scumbag, plain and simple.
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Thank you.
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There is a lot more to this story.
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WHO IS OSCAR??
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WHO IS OSCAR??
Oscar Arden. Currently training Vic Martinez. Former guru of Kai and Evan.
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Oscar is the dirty lowlife that disguised himself as a trainer/guru and took Kai for a fool while stealing more than half of his contest earnings.
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How do you know this? How did he "disguise" himself to someone who knew him well for over twenty years? ???
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He probably quit supplying grapefruits to Kai something along those lines....
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Oscar is the dirty lowlife that disguised himself as a trainer/guru and took Kai for a fool while stealing more than half of his contest earnings.
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HE did a Don King on him.
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Oscar is the dirty lowlife that disguised himself as a trainer/guru and took Kai for a fool while stealing more than half of his contest earnings.
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kai was with charles until he decided to hit on his old lady. the oscar BS is on kai. he was a clown to give another man 50% of those arnold checks just to carry his grapefruit.
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isnt the story that oscar took kai off the mean streets of Brooklyn, out of the foster care/instituitonalised system when Kai was a teen. then basically brouhgt Kai up like a son and saves his life from the ghetto?
is that the oscar version of the story?
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I've never seen Kai misspell words in such a fashion. He's likely smarter and more well read than you.
Muy blanco of you el stupido. "More well read"...you are so predictably ignorant. I would tell you to go eat shit but that would be akin to cannibalism for you, pal. Oh what the hell. Go eat shit you imbecilic little fucktard. ;D
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Muy blanco of you el stupido. "More well read"...you are so predictably ignorant. I would tell you to go eat shit but that would be akin to cannibalism for you, pal. Oh what the hell. Go eat shit you imbecilic little fucktard. ;D
I'm devastated.
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He found a better drug dealer (Farah). Its that simple.
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I'm devastated.
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Wow. ;D ;D ;D ;D Actually you are just plain ol' stupid. I'd almost say "West Virginia stupid" but that'd be an insult to those folks. Its either that or you're giving an Oscar worthy performance and I seriously doubt anyone with that ability would post here. Nope. You my inbred little man, are stupid. Somewhere, a village cries out for you. You are so stupid that you have to be watered twice a week. I really have no clue as to what makes you so stupid, but rest assured it's working. You're one of those guys that doesn't know the meaning of the world "fear", but then, I'll wager you don't know the meaning of a lot of words, do you Mr. Benny Experience Blanco?
Why the "Experience" in the middle of your name? Because that's the name everyone gives to their mistakes. Believe me, your parents called and they said you are one big fucking stupid mistake. You're over your head stupid little man. So predictable and so stupid.
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Wow. ;D ;D ;D ;D Actually you are just plain ol' stupid. I'd almost say "West Virginia stupid" but that'd be an insult to those folks. Its either that or you're giving an Oscar worthy performance and I seriously doubt anyone with that ability would post here. Nope. You my inbred little man, are stupid. Somewhere, a village cries out for you. You are so stupid that you have to be watered twice a week. I really have no clue as to what makes you so stupid, but rest assured it's working. You're one of those guys that doesn't know the meaning of the world "fear", but then, I'll wager you don't know the meaning of a lot of words, do you Mr. Benny Experience Blanco?
Why the "Experience" in the middle of your name? Because that's the name everyone gives to their mistakes. Believe me, your parents called and they said you are one big fucking stupid mistake. You're over your head stupid little man. So predictable and so stupid.
Do you got any poems or short stories? Post them up. Let's see how good of a writer you really are.
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Wow. ;D ;D ;D ;D Actually you are just plain ol' stupid. I'd almost say "West Virginia stupid" but that'd be an insult to those folks. Its either that or you're giving an Oscar worthy performance and I seriously doubt anyone with that ability would post here. Nope. You my inbred little man, are stupid. Somewhere, a village cries out for you. You are so stupid that you have to be watered twice a week. I really have no clue as to what makes you so stupid, but rest assured it's working. You're one of those guys that doesn't know the meaning of the world "fear", but then, I'll wager you don't know the meaning of a lot of words, do you Mr. Benny Experience Blanco?
Why the "Experience" in the middle of your name? Because that's the name everyone gives to their mistakes. Believe me, your parents called and they said you are one big fucking stupid mistake. You're over your head stupid little man. So predictable and so stupid.
LOL I didn't bother reading all of that dreck, as it appears emblematic of a getbig:
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Ya' see Reeves, I make more money than you do, I am more well-read than you will ever be, and I possess degrees from schools you could never have dreamed of being accepted by, and I make love to a woman of equal education that would not even look in your direction unless it was under the assumption that you were there to park her Mercedes. There are many fine men who are self-taught and may not have the "traditional markers of success", and there are outrageously rich hedge fund managers and bankers that are complete assholes. So wealth or lack thereof does not make you a "good person" per se, but I find in this pithy engagement that I should point out that you are...quite frankly...on a lower socio-economic level than the one on which I move. But hey, as an amibitious young buck eager to assert himself, I go ahead and let you strut your stuff. Go ahead and stick out your chest, throw some whimsical words of majesty to impress the lower classes that permeate this board. It ought to be good for a chuckle or two. You write poetry? Lay it on us slick! I want to be impressed. 8) Just bear in mind , that should I GET SERIOUS about humiliating you in all manner of literary verbiage, you will be systematically disected, dismantled, and DESTROYED.
Capiche!
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LOL I didn't bother reading all of that dreck, as it appears emblematic of a getbig:
(http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/denial-and-the-coming-data-meltdown.jpg)
Ya' see Reeves, I make more money than you do, I am more well-read than you will ever be, and I possess degrees from schools you could never have dreamed of being accepted by, and I make love to a woman of equal education that would not even look in your direction unless it was under the assumption that you were there to park her Mercedes. There are many fine men who are self-taught and may not have the "traditional markers of success", and there are outrageously rich hedge fund managers and bankers that are complete assholes. So wealth or lack thereof does not make you a "good person" per se, but I find in this pithy engagement that I should point out that you are...quite frankly...on a lower socio-economic level than the one on which I move. But hey, as an amibitious young buck eager to assert himself, I go ahead and let you strut your stuff. Go ahead and stick out your chest, throw some whimsical words of majesty to impress the lower classes that permeate this board. It ought to be good for a chuckle or two. You write poetry? Lay it on us slick! I want to be impressed. 8) Just bear in mind , that should I GET SERIOUS about humiliating you in all manner of literary verbiage, you will be systematically disected, dismantled, and DESTROYED.
Capiche!
Thanks for the smile, kid. ;D Oh, and you read what I wrote. Later, young man.
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As everyone knows, this past weekend was the Arnold Fitness Festival and, more specifically for bodybuilding fans, The Arnold Classic Pro Bodybuilding Championships. When I set out for Columbus this year, I had many goals, but my main one was to get to the bottom of what's going on with Kai Greene. He's been one of my favorite bodybuilders for several years now, and when I recently heard he was no longer working with long-time friend and mentor Oscar Ardon, and has instead decided to work with prep coach George Farah, I became concerned. It wasn't because Farah is a bad prep coach/guru, it was because I felt that Oscar
and Kai worked well together, and maybe more than that. In the least, their story is compelling. Oscar met Kai in the gym when he was just a kid, still living in a group home. They would drive together as teenagers in Oscar's car listening to the Conan movie sound track and dreaming of being on the Olympia stage. And years later, their friendship helped Kai achieve the pinnacle of the sport they both loved so much. It certainly is a compelling story! I hated to see it end; so did many others. Being the nosey yenta that I am, I called Oscar to find out what happened.
Arden responded very openly, "I don't know what happened. We were supposed to talk a few weeks after the [2010] Olympia, but my calls and text messages went unanswered. This is the first I have heard of Kai working with George!"
In a conversation that lasted over an hour, I could tell that Oscar felt hurt by not hearing from Kai. He felt like Kai was more than a friend; a member of his family.
"If Kai wanted to work with someone else, that's his decision, and regardless, I would support him. I believed our friendship was deeper than that. When Evan [Centopani] decided not to use me this year, I understood; and to this day, we remain friends. I'm happy for his success, just as I would like to see Kai succeed," Oscar added.
Fast forward to the 2011 Arnold... I had a golden opportunity. All the players were in the same place at the same time. This was my chance to find out the real story.
I was backstage at the Arnold Classic men's night show, and both George and Oscar were backstage watching their athletes (George watching Branch; Oscar watching Victor) compete on the big flat screen TV. As they watched, I slithered next to George and asked:, "Are you prepping Kai this year?" and George answered, "Yes, I've already started helping him for the New York Pro." That really isn't big news as it's been covered extensively on the Internet message boards for over a week by this point.
I asked the big question I had been holding in all weekend: "George, why did Kai leave Oscar?"
Farah immediately replied, "He was ripping him off. Taking 50% of everything he earn!"
At that point Oscar was only a few feet away, but I thought it best to hold off on telling him what Farah said till I did some more checking. I asked two other sources in the know, and they both basically agreed that Kai felt like Oscar was charging him too much.
Last night, I called Oscar to tell him what I was told, and to get his reaction. To put it mildly, Oscar took it poorly. He was very emotional, and had to take 10 minutes to gather himself before giving me his side of the story for the record.
"It is disappointing to hear... Wow... I'm kind of hurt, man. Really hurt. I don't do this for the money. I have helped a lot of athletes... Evan, Kevin English, Desmond Miller, and Victor Martinez, and never taken a dollar. I've invested in them, because I wanted them to succeed."
Oscar then went on to recount training Kai for the New York Pro in 2006 and three shows in 2007, all for no fee. After Kai won the Colorado Pro in 2007 Oscar decided that he had other interests he would like to pursue, and he told Kai that it was time for him to continue on his own.
Oscar recalls, "Kai didn't feel comfortable doing it on his own, and told me that because of the way I assisted him-- training him in the gym, cooking his meals-- there was no way he would do this without me. He told me that he wanted to do this 50/50. I told him, are you sure that's what you want to do, because that's a lot of money? And he told me that if he didn't place, neither of us would get anything."
Oscar continues, "Right from Kai's mouth, he told me that if he didn't place in the money, than he or I don't get anything. He felt it was a fair deal."
It's important to note that Oscar was getting 50% of Kai's contest winnings; this deal didn't include Kai's magazine deal, his supplement contract, or any appearance fees... the bulk of Kai's earnings. It's also important to note that this deal was done with a handshake; nothing was signed. Oscar insists that if at any time Kai felt like it was unfair, all he had to do was pull him aside and talk to him about it.
I encourage you to listen to ACCESS BODYBUILDING this week and hear the entire interview with Oscar Arden.
After doing the interview, I asked Oscar if he felt some sort of a cathartic release from talking about the whole affair. His response? "I feel like a close friend just died."
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As everyone knows, this past weekend was the Arnold Fitness Festival and, more specifically for bodybuilding fans, The Arnold Classic Pro Bodybuilding Championships. When I set out for Columbus this year, I had many goals, but my main one was to get to the bottom of what's going on with Kai Greene. He's been one of my favorite bodybuilders for several years now, and when I recently heard he was no longer working with long-time friend and mentor Oscar Ardon, and has instead decided to work with prep coach George Farah, I became concerned. It wasn't because Farah is a bad prep coach/guru, it was because I felt that Oscar
and Kai worked well together, and maybe more than that. In the least, their story is compelling. Oscar met Kai in the gym when he was just a kid, still living in a group home. They would drive together as teenagers in Oscar's car listening to the Conan movie sound track and dreaming of being on the Olympia stage. And years later, their friendship helped Kai achieve the pinnacle of the sport they both loved so much. It certainly is a compelling story! I hated to see it end; so did many others. Being the nosey yenta that I am, I called Oscar to find out what happened.
Arden responded very openly, "I don't know what happened. We were supposed to talk a few weeks after the [2010] Olympia, but my calls and text messages went unanswered. This is the first I have heard of Kai working with George!"
In a conversation that lasted over an hour, I could tell that Oscar felt hurt by not hearing from Kai. He felt like Kai was more than a friend; a member of his family.
"If Kai wanted to work with someone else, that's his decision, and regardless, I would support him. I believed our friendship was deeper than that. When Evan [Centopani] decided not to use me this year, I understood; and to this day, we remain friends. I'm happy for his success, just as I would like to see Kai succeed," Oscar added.
Fast forward to the 2011 Arnold... I had a golden opportunity. All the players were in the same place at the same time. This was my chance to find out the real story.
I was backstage at the Arnold Classic men's night show, and both George and Oscar were backstage watching their athletes (George watching Branch; Oscar watching Victor) compete on the big flat screen TV. As they watched, I slithered next to George and asked:, "Are you prepping Kai this year?" and George answered, "Yes, I've already started helping him for the New York Pro." That really isn't big news as it's been covered extensively on the Internet message boards for over a week by this point.
I asked the big question I had been holding in all weekend: "George, why did Kai leave Oscar?"
Farah immediately replied, "He was ripping him off. Taking 50% of everything he earn!"
At that point Oscar was only a few feet away, but I thought it best to hold off on telling him what Farah said till I did some more checking. I asked two other sources in the know, and they both basically agreed that Kai felt like Oscar was charging him too much.
Last night, I called Oscar to tell him what I was told, and to get his reaction. To put it mildly, Oscar took it poorly. He was very emotional, and had to take 10 minutes to gather himself before giving me his side of the story for the record.
"It is disappointing to hear... Wow... I'm kind of hurt, man. Really hurt. I don't do this for the money. I have helped a lot of athletes... Evan, Kevin English, Desmond Miller, and Victor Martinez, and never taken a dollar. I've invested in them, because I wanted them to succeed."
Oscar then went on to recount training Kai for the New York Pro in 2006 and three shows in 2007, all for no fee. After Kai won the Colorado Pro in 2007 Oscar decided that he had other interests he would like to pursue, and he told Kai that it was time for him to continue on his own.
Oscar recalls, "Kai didn't feel comfortable doing it on his own, and told me that because of the way I assisted him-- training him in the gym, cooking his meals-- there was no way he would do this without me. He told me that he wanted to do this 50/50. I told him, are you sure that's what you want to do, because that's a lot of money? And he told me that if he didn't place, neither of us would get anything."
Oscar continues, "Right from Kai's mouth, he told me that if he didn't place in the money, than he or I don't get anything. He felt it was a fair deal."
It's important to note that Oscar was getting 50% of Kai's contest winnings; this deal didn't include Kai's magazine deal, his supplement contract, or any appearance fees... the bulk of Kai's earnings. It's also important to note that this deal was done with a handshake; nothing was signed. Oscar insists that if at any time Kai felt like it was unfair, all he had to do was pull him aside and talk to him about it.
I encourage you to listen to ACCESS BODYBUILDING this week and hear the entire interview with Oscar Arden.
After doing the interview, I asked Oscar if he felt some sort of a cathartic release from talking about the whole affair. His response? "I feel like a close friend just died."
still stalking fitness competitors and trying to blackmail them for coke?
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Ah...A mind such as Kai's is indeed, a terrible thing, to, ummmmmm....waste. Yeah, that's it. To waste. Or to better facilitate Kai being able to "read" this: 2 WAySTe.
That's actually pretty good ;D
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still stalking fitness competitors and trying to blackmail them for coke?
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No... I've moved on to bikini competitors and heroin.
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its a true case of "the grass is greener on the other side" and "its everyone elses fault"
its dangerous to have people like oscar around, not because he doesnt know stuff but simply because he was licking kais asshole 24/7, "you are the best" "wow your amazing" etc.
Kai also started talking as if hes some professor or something, you asked him "what time is it?" and he paused and slowly gave a reply, overthinking 100 times before saying something and then spitting out some total BULLSHIT.
George wont help kai get any place better, my guess is kai will go running back to oscar.
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Best and most relevant post to the topic in this thread
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AARON.....your question to Kai at the Olympia Press Conference was just downright stupid. I was embarassed for you.
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AARON.....your question to Kai at the Olympia Press Conference was just downright stupid. I was embarassed for you.
I agree. I promise to do better this year.
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"oscar scammed kai for half of his moneychecks"
dudes and dudettes, if kai is so dumb that he gives half of his prize money to his trainer its his own fault.its not like anyone forced him to do it with a gun to his head
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sounds like oscar didn't love the cock enough.
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Kai obviously agreed on this deal, 50/50 from the start.
As of late Oscar started working with Victor Martinez who most likely gave Oscar way less of the winnings.
Victor and Kai talked about their deals and with Kai hearing how much less Oscar was charging with Victor he felt ripped off.
These guys are so predictable 8)
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any coverage on cnn?
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That 50/50 bullshucks--if Kai agreed to such terms, then he truly is El Goro...plus, It's not Oscar body that is put thru the drug regimes, the sets, the reps, the dieting...eff 50%, Oscar is a supplier and motivator, nothing more.
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and kai greene is a grown man who can make his own decitions, oscar didnt force him to take all the gear and give him 50procent of the money.
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sounds like oscar didn't love the cock enough.
;D
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50/50..... WOW
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Best and most relevant post to the topic in this thread
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I was backstage at the Arnold Classic men's night show, and both George and Oscar were backstage watching their athletes (George watching Branch; Oscar watching Victor) compete on the big flat screen TV. As they watched, I slithered next to George and asked:, "Are you prepping Kai this year?" and George answered, "Yes, I've already started helping him for the New York Pro." That really isn't big news as it's been covered extensively on the Internet message boards for over a week by this point.
Haha - this sentence cracks me up every time!
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Are we serious about these "gurus?"
I mean, we all know they don't have some secret 'revolutionary' diet shoved up their asses and we also know for a fact that the Pros aren't going to follow it to the "T"
Do these "gurus" wait to get to know their clients a little and then develop a trust so that they can just prescribe a freaking drug regimen that might be a little more 'revolutionary' than the rest?
I mean, seriously, it would make sense.
One guy is all into Keto and Clen, Gh and cardio
the other is into DNP, carbs and no cardio and diuretics
Seriously? No wonder some of these guys don't think they need a guru. And WTF does Charles Glass fit into all this? Is he gonna recommend some chronic on their cheat-meal days?
His exercises are creative, but anyone who's been bbing for awhile knows nothing other than complete neglect is really going to make a difference unless you ALREADY have something to work with.
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"I don't do this for the money. I have helped a lot of athletes... Evan, Kevin English, Desmond Miller, and Victor Martinez, and never taken a dollar. I've invested in them, because I wanted them to succeed."
My bollix would you invest in strangers just to see them succeed!
It's all about the status and money, fookin' goodwill has nothing to do with it!
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kai's going to war.
not in the david henry sense.
no, kai is about it FOR REALZ.
Dude thats how Mexican girls talk out here
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Oscars rectum just needs some rest.
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Are we serious about these "gurus?"
I mean, we all know they don't have some secret 'revolutionary' diet shoved up their asses and we also know for a fact that the Pros aren't going to follow it to the "T"
Do these "gurus" wait to get to know their clients a little and then develop a trust so that they can just prescribe a freaking drug regimen that might be a little more 'revolutionary' than the rest?
I mean, seriously, it would make sense.
One guy is all into Keto and Clen, Gh and cardio
the other is into DNP, carbs and no cardio and diuretics
Seriously? No wonder some of these guys don't think they need a guru. And WTF does Charles Glass fit into all this? Is he gonna recommend some chronic on their cheat-meal days?
His exercises are creative, but anyone who's been bbing for awhile knows nothing other than complete neglect is really going to make a difference unless you ALREADY have something to work with.
the gurus keep on changing their theories, so whatever guru might of been pro igf a few years ago now he might not advise to use it etc etc
glass knows training, and he helped a ton of guys, more so than the drug advisors.
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Oscars rectum just needs some rest.
Did he end up in hospital when he learned Kai dumped him?
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Did he end up in hospital when he learned Kai dumped him?
I think that is after Dorain was done with him
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Listening Kay interview last night on PBW was a painful experience!
There is nothing worst when a really uneducated person try to be phylosophical!
Hopefully samebody decoded the interview because I am sure that even Kay doesen't know what he was talking about when he was answering at the questions.
I don't know who sound more out of his mind Kay or Peter Paul nowdays?
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Listening Kay interview last night on PBW was a painful experience!
There is nothing worst when a really uneducated person try to be phylosophical!
Hopefully samebody decoded the interview because I am sure that even Kay doesen't know what he was talking about when he was answering at the questions.
I don't know who sound more out of his mind Kay or Peter Paul nowdays?
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Maybe someone got squirted some grapefruit in the eyes
(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/PopularScience/7-1939/med_gapefruit.jpg)
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lol
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oscar is a charlatan
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Listening Kay interview last night on PBW was a painful experience!
There is nothing worst when a really uneducated person try to be phylosophical!
Hopefully samebody decoded the interview because I am sure that even Kay doesen't know what he was talking about when he was answering at the questions.
I don't know who sound more out of his mind Kay or Peter Paul nowdays?
That was a strong statement when he said "do i buy a car or the supplements i need"..WOW!
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That was a strong statement when he said "do i buy a car or the supplements i need"..WOW!
Holy crap!
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Holy crap!
Holy crap indeed...to the fact that it is still news to getbiggers the price of gh.
Seriously?
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oh boy cant wait
ill make sure i leave work early to get home so i can tune in
are you being sarcastic? ???
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ridiculous
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still stalking fitness competitors and trying to blackmail them for coke?
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please expand on this post bench.
thank you
flexington
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please expand on this post bench.
thank you
flexington
LOL..... still "phishing" for anything you can..... :-X
Epic obsession.
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please expand on this post bench.
thank you
flexington
FUCKING LOL.
It's nice to see that some Getbiggers are polite and have manners.
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please expand on this post bench.
thank you
flexington
i already have in the past.....maybe you or blockhead can go back and find it yourselves ;)
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i already have in the past.....maybe you or blockhead can go back and find it yourselves ;)
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no ill pass.
but thanx.
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no ill pass.
but thanx.
pathetic...
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pathetic...
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have a great weekend
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Kai will deserve to win the Olympia but probably never will.
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Kai will deserve to win the Olympia but probably never will.
Kay Secki. Sheebal nome. Pyongshin. :-*
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I agree. I promise to do better this year.
Aaron did you ever get down that little sluts pants? Not kai but Erin whats her face.