What is it with you liberals? Just incapable of discussing issues without focusing on the person, rather than subject at hand. It's a very predictable pattern. I expect it from the dummies, but not the smart ones (like you).
There is nothing wrong with ad hominem arguments. You support torture b/c cheney says waterboarding is not torture. Both international and domestic case law/statutes state that waterboarding is torture. Yet you buck the law to stand with a man you seem to hold as representative of republican ideals.
If republican ideals include lawless brutality, then by gum, you are a republican.
I mention this b/c I see a worth in you and you are doing yourself a disservice.
In any event, I stand by what I said. If a person considers themselves a member of any organization, including political parties, there is a degree of loyalty required to the organization/party. I shouldn't have to explain that concept. This loyalty is particularly important if a person is in a leadership position. This means if you voluntarily join a group, you support the group.
I'll stand by this statement as well. It does not speak to what it means to be a republican, but I agree with it.
That doesn't mean you accept or agree with everything the organization or party does. But if you have a problem with the organization or party, you work to change it behind the scenes. If the differences are untenable and cannot be resolved, you leave. Simple as that.
I agree with this as well. But the statement is neutral to what it means to be a republican.
If you consider that nonsensical then we have a diametrically opposed view of loyalty.
This only makes sense if you view Dick Cheney's perspective of secretive government, torture, illegal/unjustified wars as the meat on the republican bone. I.e., Cheney's perspective is the republican party.
Is Dick Cheney the republican party?
Or does it mean something else to be a republican?
