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Potential WWIII on deck. Warmongers get ready.
Biden says at least 11 Americans among those killed in Israel, warns of hostages
BY BRETT SAMUELS - 10/09/23
President Biden on Monday announced the number of Americans killed in terrorist attacks against Israel had risen to 11, and he warned that American citizens may be among those being held hostage by the militant group Hamas.
“As we continue to account for the horrors of the appalling terrorist assault against Israel this weekend and the hundreds of innocent civilians who were murdered, we are seeing the immense scale and reach of this tragedy,” Biden said in a statement. “Sadly, we now know that at least 11 American citizens were among those killed—many of whom made a second home in Israel.”
U.S. officials are still working to confirm whether Americans are among those being held by Hamas, but said “it is likely” that is the case. “I have directed my team to work with their Israeli counterparts on every aspect of the hostage crisis, including sharing intelligence and deploying experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery efforts,” Biden said.
The State Department is providing consular assistance to Americans who are currently in Israel and urged those in the area to follow the guidance of local authorities.
More than 1,000 people have died since Hamas, a militant group that controls Gaza, launched attacks against Israel, triggering a response by Israeli forces. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday that Israel is “at war” with Hamas following the initial attacks.
Biden has spoken multiple times with Netanyahu since the attacks first unfolded, and he met earlier Monday with his national security team. The president has vowed to assist Israel as it deals with the fallout of the attacks, and the U.S. has already repositioned military assets in the region and sent some munitions to Israel.
In Monday’s statement, Biden called the U.S. and Israel “inseparable partners.”
“This is not some distant tragedy. The ties between Israel and the United States run deep. It is personal for so many American families who are feeling the pain of this attack as well as the scars inflicted through millennia of antisemitism and persecution of Jewish people,” Biden said in Monday’s statement.
“In cities across the country, police departments have stepped up security around centers of Jewish life, and the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and other federal law enforcement partners are closely monitoring for any domestic threats in connection with the horrific terrorist attacks in Israel.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4246322-biden-says-at-least-11-americans-among-those-killed-in-israel-warns-of-hostages/
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Hamas armed wing warns it will start killing Israeli hostages for any new bombing of homes without warning
Warning comes as Israel increases attacks in Gaza since Hamas attack on Saturday
By Greg Wehner Fox News
Published October 9, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-armed-wing-warns-start-killing-israeli-hostages-bombing-homes-warning
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Iran prisoner swap for $6 billion in spotlight after Hamas attacks Israel
Reuters
October 8, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-prisoner-swap-6-billion-spotlight-after-hamas-attacks-israel-2023-10-09/
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Iran’s support for Hamas fans suspicion it’s wrecking Israel-Saudi deal
Tehran’s remarks will feed speculation Iran is whipping up conflict to prevent a US-brokered normalization of Saudi-Israeli ties.
BY JAMIE DETTMER AND CHRISTIAN OLIVER
OCTOBER 7, 2023
https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-hamas-attacks-against-israel-palestine-jerusalem/
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I just hope this does not effect my Iranian Test supplier. God fucking forbid!
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I just hope this does not effect my Iranian Test supplier. God fucking forbid!
I would start looking for another supplier if I was you. :-\
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Biden Now Two Degrees of Separation from Slaughter of Israelis
https://www.westernjournal.com/bombshell-report-biden-now-two-degrees-separation-slaughter-israelis/
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Biden Now Two Degrees of Separation from Slaughter of Israelis
https://www.westernjournal.com/bombshell-report-biden-now-two-degrees-separation-slaughter-israelis/
Definitely has blood on his hands. Again.
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Retired U.S. Army colonel Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor
"The Israeli losses are predicted to exceed 1,000 dead. It is inconceivable that the IDF had NO ready forces positioned in the South or the North to deal with potential violence on the anniversary of 1973.
"At the same time, the Arabs did what they never do. They shut up. In this sense, it’s reminiscent of two conditions.
"First, Custer and his column were annihilated because the hostile tribes did something they had never done: They united and stood their ground. Normally, they were divided and fled as soon as Army Regulars showed up.
"He rushed in thinking that if he did not, the hostiles would fleet. It’s also reminiscent of the Bulge. We talked ourselves into a state of wishful thinking and the Germans surprised us.
"For Israel, however, this is deadly serious. If Hezbollah sits this out, the IDF will systematically crush Gaza. However, serious attacks from Southern Lebanon will stretch the IDF ground force to the limit.
"It may be that anger and disgust across the Muslim World with the destruction of Gaza and its people eventually provokes a larger war that could involve Iran, even Turkey.
"Egypt will be unable to sit it out. Jordan may fall apart under the pressure of internal unrest. In short, the world could change dramatically."
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Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut
By Summer Said
Updated Oct. 8, 2023
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25?mod=djemalertNEWS
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Animals. >:(
At least 40 babies, some beheaded, found by Israel soldiers in Hamas-attacked village
IDF Major General Itai Veruv described the scene in Kfar Aza as 'a massacre'
By Lawrence Richard Fox News
Published October 10, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/world/40-babies-some-beheaded-found-israel-soldiers-hamas-attacked-village
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US Might Send Another Aircraft Carrier to Middle East
By Theodore Bunker | 10 October 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/u-s-aircraft-carrier-israel/2023/10/10/id/1137782/
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Hamas terrorists executing people in a bomb shelter
https://rumble.com/v3obx43-hamas-terrorists-executing-people-in-a-bomb-shelter.html
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'Fired for expressing views?': Canadians split after Air Canada removes pilot for posting Palestine protest photos
Air Canada took swift action after the pilot allegedly posted pictures from a demonstration
Joy Joshi·Writer, Yahoo News Canada
October 11, 2023
Mostafa Ezzo is an Air Canada pilot flying out of Montreal.
Pictured in thread:
- Ezzo pointing out Hitler would be proud of Israel
- F*ck your Israeli Burn in Hell
- Keep the World Clean (and trash Israel)
- Enzo's biography
NO JEW would feel safe flying with this antisemite.
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https://news.yahoo.com/air-canada-pilot-palestine-protest-153914191.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jaXRpemVuZnJlZXByZXNzLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABPuYOtAZ9aRhM_ahiEp8ffXCtcGJeKytmBQCwxCdCx9bu3h1igBuHYN7WmaIMuqMiBQtbykbrhHaJ0Rg6799IA1WFr7li12viyxmU08N7CHVRv__6uZ07KWM4S70ekACmKlWWVsKXsoOa48iupj9j3FE9-oRlaEJHGytbMUGyWY
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What we know about the Americans killed in the Israel-Hamas war
At least 22 Americans have been killed so far, according to officials.
By Mary Kekatos
October 11, 2023
https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-killed-israel-hamas-war/story?id=103829720
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BREAKING: US Special Forces have just landed in Israel to help with freeing Israeli hostages
OCT. 10, 2023 BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-us-special-forces-have-just-landed-in-israel-to-help-with-freeing-israeli-hostages/
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A moment of moral clarity from the Biden Administration. I'm almost speechless.
Karine Jean-Pierre Says House Members' Comments On Israel Are 'Repugnant'
"There are not two sides here," the White House press secretary said when asked about some lawmakers who questioned U.S. support for Israel.
By Ron Dicker
Oct 11, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karine-jean-pierre-there-are-not-two-sides-repugnant_n_6526d57ae4b0102e69645a51
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Student groups pull back on controversial Israel-Hamas statements
BY LEXI LONAS - 10/11/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4250610-student-groups-controversial-israel-hamas/
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GOP Rep. Mills: I Had to Help Get Americans out of Israel Because Biden Won’t Do His Job
Just like Afghanistan. He treats American hostages like Hunter treated his laptop….he just leaves them there.
On Wednesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “America Reports,” Rep. Cory Mills (R-FL) discussed helping 32 Americans get out of Israel and stated that it’s now “the second time doing the Biden administration’s work, because they have no plan, they have no strategy to get these Americans out who are trapped and these church groups that had been left behind.”
Mills said, “I went in and was very thankful to be able to get — for the second time by the way, I’ll just add, helping the Biden administration — who has failed to do their job. The first time I did it was in 2021, when I conducted the very first successful overland rescue of Americans, but here it is, the second time doing the Biden administration’s work, because they have no plan, they have no strategy to get these Americans out who are trapped and these church groups that had been left behind.”
He added, “I’d worked with one of the pastors in this church group as well as for a couple of isolated individuals that were stuck in these areas. They had tried to get on multiple flights, their flights were canceled, they felt they were kind of being boxed in as some of the aggression around them started to increase and really were just looking for an answer, looking for a way out. A couple of them had called the State Department and really didn’t get a whole lot of support. And so, at that stage, I just felt it was necessary for me to step in and try and do something. Our government doesn’t necessarily define who we are as Americans. I think that the American spirit’s very much alive and I think standing up and stepping in is really what these people were looking for, and I hope that them being home now or them actually getting out and [being] in a safe space has given them confidence that Americans won’t be left behind and that at least those of us who are elected officials will stand up when it’s needed.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/12/gop-rep-mills-i-had-to-help-get-americans-out-of-israel-because-biden-wont-do-his-job/
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Blockade: No Power or Water for Gaza Until All Hostages Released Says Israel
OLIVER JJ LANE 12 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/10/12/blockade-no-power-or-water-for-gaza-until-all-hostages-released-says-israel/
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A War’s Brutality Invades Our Screens: The Coverage From Israel So Far
Published 10/12/23
Joe Concha
The war between Hamas and Israel has produced arguably some of the most graphic, shocking images the public has seen from any conflict in the age of social media. There are reports of decapitated babies and of the elderly, women and children — all non-combatants — being executed in their homes and on the streets or taken hostage.
Devastation, death and horror have dominated TV screens in America and around the world, and likely will for the foreseeable future. Twenty-two Americans are among the more than 2,000 dead since this conflict began, according to the latest U.S. official statements, with at least 17 to 20 Americans missing and thought to have been taken hostage.
Media coverage in the U.S. has been appropriately wall-to-wall since Hamas began killing civilians last Saturday. As a whole, the coverage has been solid, with war correspondents showing bravery and focus in reporting facts on the ground at their own peril, deserving of praise and awe. But there have been some missteps and media malfeasance worth noting, including:
The decision to provide Mustafa Barghouti, the leader of the Palestinian National Initiative, a West Bank political party, with an unchallenged national and international platform.
This began in earnest Sunday morning on Fareed Zakaria's CNN program. At one point, Zakaria pointedly and appropriately asked Barghouti about attacks on civilians by Hamas but then allowed him two straight minutes to tell what can only be called lies.
"Hamas mainly attacked military establishments, military installations," Barghouti falsely claimed. "And most of the people they have arrested and taken as war prisoners are military people. I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian."
Zakaria, despite his own network’s vivid reporting and video to the contrary, mistakenly allowed this propaganda to go unchallenged. Other outlets also booked Barghouti, including ABC News Australia, where he made another stunning claim, saying that "nobody will be executed" by Hamas — even though Hamas said it will execute hostages on video if Israel bombs Gazans’ homes.
There has been pointed criticism and argument over Hamas being described as a "militant group” rather than as a terrorist organization. This criticism came to a noteworthy head on MSNBC during an exchange between the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt, and MSNBC's Morning Joe.
“I am angry with a world that allowed the dehumanization of Israelis and sanitized the terrorism of Hamas,” Greenblatt said. “I must say, I love this show, and I love this network, but I’ve got to ask: Who’s writing the scripts? Hamas — the people who did this — they are not fighters, they are not militants, and I’m looking right at the camera: They are terrorists.”
The BBC, too, has been called out by British officials and others for not labeling Hamas as a terrorist organization. The British news organization's guidelines state that the word "terrorist" can be a "barrier rather than an aid" to educating and informing viewers.
"We should not adopt other people's language as our own," the BBC said in response. "Our responsibility is to remain objective and report in ways that enable our audiences to make their own assessments about who is doing what to whom.”
Marie van der Zyl, who serves as president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, said the BBC's stance is "insulting to the many British Jews whose friends and families are currently under attack by genocidally antisemitic terrorists and performs a profound disservice to millions of viewers."
Canada's oldest news organization, the CBC, is facing heat after an internal memo was leaked that instructed reporters not to use the word "terrorist" in their reporting.
"Do not refer to militants, soldiers or anyone else as ‘terrorists,’" wrote George Achi, the CBC's director of journalistic standards, in that internal memo. "The notion of terrorism remains heavily politicized and is part of the story."
When men, women and children are dragged from their homes and killed or kidnapped, that's terrorism carried out by terrorists. For these news outlets to take such a stance is maddening.
The U.S. government has listed Hamas as a terrorist organization since 1997, although the Director of National Intelligence’s counterterrorism guide to foreign terrorist organizations also refers to Hamas as “the largest and most capable militant group in the Palestinian territories and one of the territories two major political parties” before adding the State Department’s designation of Hamas as a “foreign terrorist organization.”
Hamas is using social media in the most insidious way to carry out a fear campaign.
Hamas has used the smartphones of some of their victims to record their murders or kidnappings, then posted the videos on the social media accounts of the phones’ owners.
“A terrorist broke into her home, murdered her, took her phone, photographed the horror and posted it on her Facebook wall. That’s how we found out,” Israeli citizen Mor Bayder wrote on her Facebook page regarding the murder of her grandmother in the village of Nir Oz, according to a chilling report in the New York Post and other media.
“My grandmother, my whole world, the light of my life," Bayder added. "The pillar of my life, in my family’s life."
“A big part of the strategy of inciting terror is not just the attack … but also depends on their ability to incite fear in especially online spaces,” Graham Brookie, senior director of the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, explained to Politico.
“A group like Hamas has, unfortunately, a lot of experience in creating this content. And they know that it needs to be an important part of their strategy to produce, essentially, terror propaganda," he concluded.
Biden has not taken one question from reporters since the war began.
Given that there are 22 Americans reported dead and more than 17 missing, the president has an obligation to the American people to field questions from reporters. Biden has held two press events, one on Saturday and the other on Tuesday, but walked away from the podium both times as reporters shouted questions.
As we've seen over the past 30 months, taking questions from the press has been mostly a foreign concept. It has been nearly one year since Biden has done a solo press conference on U.S. soil, and he has yet to do any interviews with a newspaper reporter since taking office.
At a time of such world instability — including the wars in Ukraine and, now, in Israel and Gaza — accountability is demanded of our leaders more than ever. But the administration still continues to shield Joe Biden more than any president we've seen in the modern era.
War is hell. And given the brutality of the murders of civilians, this is a hell the likes of which most of us have never seen on our phones or television screens.
For the foreseeable future, that jarring reality will continue to dominate programming and the news cycle.
https://themessenger.com/opinion/israel-war-hamas-media-coverage-graphic-images-social-media-terror
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interesting....
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Israel-Hamas war latest: Israel tells north Gaza residents to evacuate with ground invasion expected
BY TUCKER REALS, HALEY OTT, FARIS TANYOS, JOE RUIZ, CARA TABACHNICK, BRIAN DAKSS, KERRY BREEN, ELIAS LOPEZ
UPDATED ON: OCTOBER 13, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip/
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Iran cannot be bystander in face of Israeli onslaught
FM Amir-Abdollahian
Oct 15, 2023
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/207147/Iran-cannot-be-bystander-in-face-of-Israeli-onslaught
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State Department: 29 US Citizens Dead, 15 Missing After Hamas Attack
14 October 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/us/hamas-terrorist-attacks/2023/10/14/id/1138305/
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Pentagon sends deployment notices to 2,000 US troops over Israel-Hamas war
By AP
OCTOBER 16, 2023
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pentagon-sends-deployment-notices-to-2000-us-troops-over-israel-hamas-war/
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Iran Warns Of 'Pre-emptive Action' Against Israel
By AFP - Agence France Presse
October 16, 2023
https://www.barrons.com/news/iran-warns-of-pre-emptive-action-against-israel-3f056fea
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Israel Says Failed Islamic Jihad Rocket Launch Killed Hundreds at Gaza Hospital; Hamas Blames IDF
IDF says audio recording proves Islamic Jihad culpability; Netanyahu accuses 'barbaric terrorists' of responsibility for deaths at al-Ahli hospital
Yaniv Kubovich Ben Samuels The Associated Press Reuters
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-17/ty-article/hundreds-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza-city-hospital-gaza-health-ministry-says/0000018b-3ec5-dcae-afaf-7eff6ef70000
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US Deploying Marines Into Middle East to Support Israel
President Joe Biden landed in Israel as the Marines deployed. The United States has also sent Air Force fighter groups to the region.
By Zachary Stieber
10/18/2023
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/us-deploying-marines-into-middle-east-to-support-israel-5512348?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport
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I know when I am looking for Indepth information about Hamas vs Israel I'm coming to a thread hosted by Dos Equis.. It has to be the end all be all of the conflict.. Still waiting for some really good stuff... I'm sure it's just around the corner
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Does anyone have any ideas about how to find a peaceful solution?
3000-4000 People 1/3 of them children have already died in Gaza.
The IDF has bombed the shit out of them and their infrastructure
There are 200 hostages.
Maybe release the hostages with the guarantee that hostilities cease and talks begin?
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I know when I am looking for Indepth information about Hamas vs Israel I'm coming to a thread hosted by Dos Equis.. It has to be the end all be all of the conflict.. Still waiting for some really good stuff... I'm sure it's just around the corner
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Does anyone have any ideas about how to find a peaceful solution?
3000-4000 People 1/3 of them children have already died in Gaza.
The IDF has bombed the shit out of them and their infrastructure
There are 200 hostages.
Maybe release the hostages with the guarantee that hostilities cease and talks begin?
How do you negotiate with terrorists?
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How do you negotiate with terrorists?
I'd prefer not to kill more people who are just trying to live as a result.
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I'd prefer not to kill more people who are just trying to live as a result.
Peace though strength
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Peace though strength
That didn't work here. Those evil crazy fucks decided to lob 3000 missiles at Israel knowing it would result in something like this or worse. I have to wonder what their end-game strategy is. I don't know that killing more innocent people is going to work either. The situation just gets worse and the people who end up paying the real price and innocent families.
I wonder why there is a pause in the ground invasion.
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I'd prefer not to kill more people who are just trying to live as a result.
I think the only solution is to kill the terrorists.
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Those on twitter with both the LBGT flag and a Palestinian one show just how clueless the woke mob is.
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What are the roots of the Israel-Palestine conflict?
Recent events are the culmination of a decades-long clash in the disputed region of the Middle East
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/why-israel-palestine-conflict-history
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That didn't work here. Those evil crazy fucks decided to lob 3000 missiles at Israel knowing it would result in something like this or worse. I have to wonder what their end-game strategy is. I don't know that killing more innocent people is going to work either. The situation just gets worse and the people who end up paying the real price and innocent families.
I wonder why there is a pause in the ground invasion.
I wonder the same. They had to know Israel would go nuts. And then telling the people in Gaza to stay put after Israel gave a warning to evacuate.. it's like they don't care about their welfare at all.
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I wonder the same. They had to know Israel would go nuts. And then telling the people in Gaza to stay put after Israel gave a warning to evacuate.. it's like they don't care about their welfare at all.
The IDF is likely going to kill lots of people to discourage this from ever happening again. This is tragic. It's easy for people here to sit back in their cozy homes and secure lives and act ideologically citing principles when they aren't getting their homes bombed out, losing loved ones, desperate for food and water, and struggling to keep their families safe.
I think the IDF hasn't fully begun its invasion of Gaza because it needs to shore up its north and eastern borders from Hezbollah and get its reserve troops fully operational. If Hezbollah attacks I wouldn't be surprised to see us help.
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Those on twitter with both the LBGT flag and a Palestinian one show just how clueless the woke mob is.
I've been saying this for years. Leftists are often anti-Christian and pro-Islam, but fail to understand that Islamists literally throw gay people off of buildings with their hands tied behind their backs.
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Two American hostages released from Gaza, Fox News is told
As of Friday morning, 11 Americans were unaccounted for since beginning of Israel-Hamas war
By Greg Norman , Chris Pandolfo , Trey Yingst Fox News
Published October 20, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-american-hostages-released-gaza-fox-news-told
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He supports BLM and is anti-semitic. He should be removed from this forum.
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He supports BLM and is anti-semitic. He should be removed from this forum.
I don't take him seriously, but there is a place for everyone here.
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Bunch of savages.
EXCLUSIVE: Israeli morgue worker says horrors inflicted on Hamas's victims are 'worse than the Holocaust' including decapitated pregnant woman and her beheaded unborn child
Shari says the atrocities committed by Hamas are 'worse than the Holocaust'
She and her team spend 12 hours a day cleaning mutilated corpses
Her team has helped identify 800 bodies so far
By NICK FAGGE
UPDATED: 20 October 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12653435/Israeli-morgue-worker-says-horrors-inflicted-Hamass-victims-worse-Holocaust-including-decapitated-pregnant-woman-beheaded-unborn-child.html
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Associated Press Won't Let Reporters Call Hamas a Terrorist Organization
News organization says journalists should refer to its former officemates as 'militants'
Joseph Simonson
October 23, 2023
https://freebeacon.com/media/associated-press-wont-let-reporters-call-hamas-a-terrorist-organization/
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Hamas in ‘No Way’ Would Have Invaded Israel under Trump
Hamas’s unprecedented invasion of Israel would in “no way” have transpired under the presidency of Donald Trump, according to world-renowned military historian and professor Dr. Victor Davis Hanson, who also argued that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and China would not have sent spy balloons over the U.S., as he urged America to take back its international standing.
Speaking on former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia John Anderson’s “Conversations” podcast Wednesday, Dr. Hanson suggested that “to his credit,” former President Donald Trump demonstrated American deterrence and determination through his assassination of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani and destruction of the Islamist terror group ISIS.
In response, “Iran did not do anything,” and “there would be no way Hamas was doing this between 2017 and January of 2021,” he argued. “They had a small war, but they never did anything like this.”
According to Hanson, additional countries would have also been deterred under a Trump presidency.
“I don’t think Vladimir Putin would have gone into Ukraine, and I don’t think that China would have sent a balloon,” he said, attributing that to Trump’s reputation for being “unpredictable” and the nations’ conviction it would be a “dangerous thing” to tempt the United States.
And I think we want to get back to that,” he added.
While noting that “Trumpian rhetoric” was not essential, Hanson declared that the former president “set a model” whereby, during his presidency, Tehran was “suddenly” quiet for four years after having perpetually issued threats, and Russia “did not move” in Ukraine.
In addition, he highlighted how President Trump was warned against moves that would unleash mayhem, yet his unyielding approach proved to be most effective:
Everybody said if you move the embassy to Jerusalem, if you say that the Golan Heights shall be Israeli, if you cut off the $700 million to the Palestinians, if you say that you’re not going to give one dime to [the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East] — you can’t do that.
“And he did it all, and nothing happened,” he added. “And that was because we were strong and reliable. And I think we’ll be that way again.”
According to Hanson, if America projects strength, her allies “can be assured that they don’t have to go out on a limb.” That’s the real issue, isn’t it?” he said. “Because when we step back, then Japan and Australia and Taiwan — they’re confronted with a China that’ll say, ‘Look, the United States is in decline, [so] you better cut a deal with us or at least understand that we’re here.’”
He then asserted that the U.S. cannot demand countries lacking the “wherewithal to stand up to these global bullies” do so:
When we step back, we put them in an impossible situation; but when we step up, and we say, “We’re not asking you to be at the front of the steer, but we’re asking all of us to have shared interests and to sacrifice together in deterring these people,” then we’re always surprised how many allies we have.
“I don’t know why we don’t understand that lesson,” he added. “Some presidents understand it, some don’t.”
Hanson, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, insisted that one cannot “put allies in a position where they have to profess 110 percent solidarity with the United States when the United States doesn’t believe in itself, and it’s going to put them in jeopardy for that fealty — and that’s just a law of diplomacy.”
“And I think, to our blame, we didn’t understand that. We used to understand it, but we lost that, and I think it will come back again — that we won’t do that again. I’m hoping,” he said.
On Friday, Hanson argued:
The more a bankrupt America appeases the Middle East, sends aid and money, takes in its refugees, and lectures democratic Israel, all the more the Arab world shows contempt, and all the closer we get to a theater-wide war — predicated on the idea that a loud but contemptibly weak America is at the mercy of unstable governments and unhinged throngs.
He also called to:
Vastly increase our defenses, prepare for the worst, return to maximum fossil fuel production, stop importing oil and hatred of America from the Middle East, cease unrestricted immigration and yank visas, enforce our immigration laws—and allow Israel to defend itself from pre-civilizational murderers.
Earlier this month, Hanson accused the Biden administration of bolstering Hamas and its “SS murderers” while calling on Americans to demand “not one more American cent” be transferred to the Palestinians.
The current conflict between Israel and the terrorist Hamas organization follows the latter’s execution of the worst terror attack in Israel’s history on October 7.
The unprecedented attack saw some 2,500 terrorists burst into Israel by land, sea, and air and gun down participants at an outdoor music festival while others went door-to-door hunting, torturing, shooting, and kidnapping Jewish men, women, and children in local towns.
The terrorists also burned homes with families inside while proceeding to murder soldiers and infants alike, all while showering thousands of rockets down on Israeli civilian centers.
The attack has, so far, resulted in more than 1,400 deaths, the vast majority of them civilians, more than 5,300 injured, and at least 222 hostages of all ages taken captive in Gaza, including several Americans.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/23/victor-davis-hanson-hamas-in-no-way-would-have-invaded-israel-under-trump/
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Hamas in ‘No Way’ Would Have Invaded Israel under Trump
Hamas’s unprecedented invasion of Israel would in “no way” have transpired under the presidency of Donald Trump, according to world-renowned military historian and professor Dr. Victor Davis Hanson, who also argued that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and China would not have sent spy balloons over the U.S., as he urged America to take back its international standing.
Speaking on former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia John Anderson’s “Conversations” podcast Wednesday, Dr. Hanson suggested that “to his credit,” former President Donald Trump demonstrated American deterrence and determination through his assassination of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani and destruction of the Islamist terror group ISIS.
In response, “Iran did not do anything,” and “there would be no way Hamas was doing this between 2017 and January of 2021,” he argued. “They had a small war, but they never did anything like this.”
According to Hanson, additional countries would have also been deterred under a Trump presidency.
“I don’t think Vladimir Putin would have gone into Ukraine, and I don’t think that China would have sent a balloon,” he said, attributing that to Trump’s reputation for being “unpredictable” and the nations’ conviction it would be a “dangerous thing” to tempt the United States.
And I think we want to get back to that,” he added.
While noting that “Trumpian rhetoric” was not essential, Hanson declared that the former president “set a model” whereby, during his presidency, Tehran was “suddenly” quiet for four years after having perpetually issued threats, and Russia “did not move” in Ukraine.
In addition, he highlighted how President Trump was warned against moves that would unleash mayhem, yet his unyielding approach proved to be most effective:
Everybody said if you move the embassy to Jerusalem, if you say that the Golan Heights shall be Israeli, if you cut off the $700 million to the Palestinians, if you say that you’re not going to give one dime to [the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East] — you can’t do that.
“And he did it all, and nothing happened,” he added. “And that was because we were strong and reliable. And I think we’ll be that way again.”
According to Hanson, if America projects strength, her allies “can be assured that they don’t have to go out on a limb.” That’s the real issue, isn’t it?” he said. “Because when we step back, then Japan and Australia and Taiwan — they’re confronted with a China that’ll say, ‘Look, the United States is in decline, [so] you better cut a deal with us or at least understand that we’re here.’”
He then asserted that the U.S. cannot demand countries lacking the “wherewithal to stand up to these global bullies” do so:
When we step back, we put them in an impossible situation; but when we step up, and we say, “We’re not asking you to be at the front of the steer, but we’re asking all of us to have shared interests and to sacrifice together in deterring these people,” then we’re always surprised how many allies we have.
“I don’t know why we don’t understand that lesson,” he added. “Some presidents understand it, some don’t.”
Hanson, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, insisted that one cannot “put allies in a position where they have to profess 110 percent solidarity with the United States when the United States doesn’t believe in itself, and it’s going to put them in jeopardy for that fealty — and that’s just a law of diplomacy.”
“And I think, to our blame, we didn’t understand that. We used to understand it, but we lost that, and I think it will come back again — that we won’t do that again. I’m hoping,” he said.
On Friday, Hanson argued:
The more a bankrupt America appeases the Middle East, sends aid and money, takes in its refugees, and lectures democratic Israel, all the more the Arab world shows contempt, and all the closer we get to a theater-wide war — predicated on the idea that a loud but contemptibly weak America is at the mercy of unstable governments and unhinged throngs.
He also called to:
Vastly increase our defenses, prepare for the worst, return to maximum fossil fuel production, stop importing oil and hatred of America from the Middle East, cease unrestricted immigration and yank visas, enforce our immigration laws—and allow Israel to defend itself from pre-civilizational murderers.
Earlier this month, Hanson accused the Biden administration of bolstering Hamas and its “SS murderers” while calling on Americans to demand “not one more American cent” be transferred to the Palestinians.
The current conflict between Israel and the terrorist Hamas organization follows the latter’s execution of the worst terror attack in Israel’s history on October 7.
The unprecedented attack saw some 2,500 terrorists burst into Israel by land, sea, and air and gun down participants at an outdoor music festival while others went door-to-door hunting, torturing, shooting, and kidnapping Jewish men, women, and children in local towns.
The terrorists also burned homes with families inside while proceeding to murder soldiers and infants alike, all while showering thousands of rockets down on Israeli civilian centers.
The attack has, so far, resulted in more than 1,400 deaths, the vast majority of them civilians, more than 5,300 injured, and at least 222 hostages of all ages taken captive in Gaza, including several Americans.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/23/victor-davis-hanson-hamas-in-no-way-would-have-invaded-israel-under-trump/
I agree. I don't think Russia would have invaded Ukraine. Now watch China invade Taiwan. Elections have worldwide consequences. We saw the same thing happen when Obama was elected. Almost singlehandedly destabilized the Middle East.
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Associated Press Won't Let Reporters Call Hamas a Terrorist Organization
News organization says journalists should refer to its former officemates as 'militants'
Joseph Simonson
October 23, 2023
https://freebeacon.com/media/associated-press-wont-let-reporters-call-hamas-a-terrorist-organization/
Regarding the Associated Press, always remember that in 2008 Ryan Fournier essentially declared that the AP was leaving the straight new business to purse “advocacy journalism,” whatever that means. ::)
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Regarding the Associated Press, always remember that in 2008 Ryan Fournier essentially declared that the AP was leaving the straight new business to purse “advocacy journalism,” whatever that means. ::)
Oh we know exactly what that means. They believe they have to pick a side and advocate instead of just reporting the news. The MSM is an extension of the Democrat party.
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Fox's Yingst: What Hamas terrorist told Israeli interrogators, what he did to victims 'too graphic' for TV
Yingst says Hamas commanders told the terrorists to 'step on the heads of civilians, to behead them and do whatever they felt like'
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn Fox News
Published October 23, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/foxs-yingst-hamas-terrorist-told-israeli-interrogators-too-graphic
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Well, we know that traitor trump gave classified secrets of Israel to Russia. And since Vlad Putin is an ally of Iran, who knows what Israeli state secrets Hamas was handed over from traitor trump's loose lips.
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Send in the Marines to Rescue the Hostages?
JAZZ SHAW October 25, 2023
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/10/25/send-in-the-marines-to-rescue-the-hostages-n587506
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NATO "ally".
Turkey's Erdogan says Hamas is not terrorist organisation, cancels trip to Israel
ANKARA, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands.
NATO member Turkey condemned the civilian deaths caused by Hamas's Oct. 7 rampage in southern Israel, but also urged Israeli forces to act with restraint in their response. Ankara has strongly criticised Israel's bombardment of Gaza.
"Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, it is a liberation group, 'mujahideen' waging a battle to protect its lands and people," he told lawmakers from his ruling AK Party, using an Arabic word denoting those who fight for their faith.
Unlike many of its NATO allies and the European Union, Turkey does not consider Hamas a terrorist organisation and hosts members of the group on its territory. Ankara backs a two-state solution to the decades-old Israel-Palestinian conflict.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-says-hamas-is-not-terrorist-organisation-2023-10-25/
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This - Simple ;D
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This - Simple ;D
😂
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900 US Troops Head to Mideast to Bolster Defenses as Attacks Surge
Thursday, 26 October 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/mideast-troops/2023/10/26/id/1139837/
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Hamas terrorists placing their own people in danger by violating the Law of Armed Conflict.
Israel Posts Explainer Video Of Gaza Hospital, Alleges It's Hamas HQ
The Israeli army also accused Hamas of abusing hospitals in Gaza for military purposes, as war rages in and around the Palestinian territory
World NewsEdited by Debanish Achom (with inputs from AFP) Updated: October 27, 2023
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/israel-posts-explainer-video-of-gaza-hospital-alleges-its-hamas-hq-4521154
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Well, we know that traitor trump Biden gave classified secrets of Israel to Russia. And since Vlad Putin is an ally of Iran, who knows what Israeli state secrets Hamas was handed over from traitor Biden's loose lips.
Fixed for you, commie.
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'This Is A Time For War': Benjamin Netanyahu Won't Agree To Cease-Fire In Gaza
The head of the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees has been pushing for an "immediate" suspension of hostilities.
By Marita Vlachou
Oct 31, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/netanyahu-reject-cease-fire-israel-hamas-war_n_65410dafe4b02c5617da6067
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Well, we know that traitor trump gave classified secrets of Israel to Russia. And since Vlad Putin is an ally of Iran, who knows what Israeli state secrets Hamas was handed over from traitor trump's loose lips.
They were bagel recipes.
Putin loves bagels.
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Hamas terrorists placing their own people in danger by violating the Law of Armed Conflict.
Is that like the Marquis of Queensbury rules?
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Is that like the Marquis of Queensbury rules?
Nope. It's what people usually call the "law of war." It's a collection of things like the Geneva Conventions, treaties, custom and practice, etc. that govern how we fight. It includes a prohibition on targeting civilians, which Hamas did. It prohibits placing command and control in hospitals, churches/mosques, and civilian neighborhoods, which Hamas does. It prohibits using civilians as human shields, as Hamas does. It prohibits kidnapping civilians, which Hamas did.
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Pro Hamas peaceful propaganda in London:
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Pro Hamas peaceful propaganda in London:
Looks like one of those mostly peaceful BLM protestors. Just incredible how these raging antisemites are everywhere.
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Looks like one of those mostly peaceful BLM protestors. Just incredible how these raging antisemites are everywhere.
They couldn't care less about Jews, alcohol or pork meat. It's all about earning money and making a great living, while "fighting for the cause".
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BREAKING: Netanyahu Rebukes US, Declares No Pause and No Fuel Before Hostages are Released
ED MORRISSEY November 03, 2023
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/11/03/breaking-netanyahu-rebukes-us-declares-no-pause-and-no-fuel-before-hostages-are-released-n589754
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BREAKING: Netanyahu Rebukes US, Declares No Pause and No Fuel Before Hostages are Released
ED MORRISSEY November 03, 2023
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/11/03/breaking-netanyahu-rebukes-us-declares-no-pause-and-no-fuel-before-hostages-are-released-n589754
Good! Crush Gaza!
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Oh we know exactly what that means. They believe they have to pick a side and advocate instead of just reporting the news. The MSM is an extension of the Democrat party.
Turley posts a piece right on time:
https://jonathanturley.org/2023/11/05/new-york-times-controversy-exposes-the-inherent-conflict-in-advocacy-journalism/
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I have long been a critic of what I called “advocacy journalism” as it began to emerge in journalism schools. These schools encourage students to use their “lived expertise” and to “leave[] neutrality behind.” Instead, of neutrality, they are pushing “solidarity [as] ‘a commitment to social justice that translates into action.’”
For example, we previously discussed the release of the results of interviews with over 75 media leaders by former executive editor for The Washington Post Leonard Downie Jr. and former CBS News President Andrew Heyward. They concluded that objectivity is now considered reactionary and even harmful. Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, editor-in-chief at the San Francisco Chronicle said it plainly: “Objectivity has got to go."
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Nope. It's what people usually call the "law of war." It's a collection of things like the Geneva Conventions, treaties, custom and practice, etc. that govern how we fight. It includes a prohibition on targeting civilians, which Hamas did. It prohibits placing command and control in hospitals, churches/mosques, and civilian neighborhoods, which Hamas does. It prohibits using civilians as human shields, as Hamas does. It prohibits kidnapping civilians, which Hamas did.
What about the 8,000+ civilians killed by Israel in Gaza?
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What about the 8,000+ civilians killed by Israel in Gaza?
What is the source for 8,000+ civilians killed by Israel in Gaza? Is it the same people who shot a missile into their own hospital and within minutes claimed Israel had killed 500 people?
Whatever the number of civilians killed in Gaza, none of them were directly targeted and none were killed by Israel violating the Law of Armed Conflict. It is Hamas who is using civilians as human shields.
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US nuclear sub offers show of force in the Middle East
November 6, 2023
https://dnyuz.com/2023/11/06/us-nuclear-sub-offers-show-of-force-in-the-middle-east/
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US, Israel unsure how many Hamas hostages are 'still alive,' Jake Sullivan says
Sullivan is working to secure the release of 10 missing Americans from Gaza
By Anders Hagstrom Fox News
Published November 12, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-israel-unsure-how-many-hamas-hostages-still-alive-jake-sullivan
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Hamas Planned Much More Extensive Attack On October 7 Than Previously Known: Report
By Ryan Saavedra
Nov 13, 2023
https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-planned-much-more-extensive-attack-on-october-7-than-previously-known-report
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Another hostage found dead in Gaza…
NOV. 17, 2023
https://therightscoop.com/another-hostage-found-dead-in-gaza/
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NOT GOOD: Two Israeli hostages found dead in hospital compound
NOV. 17, 2023 BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/not-good-two-hostages-found-dead-in-hospital-compound/
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Dead Americans murdered by Hamas and American hostages held by Hamas should be the lead story on every newscast. But it isn't.
Israel, Hamas agree to temporary cease-fire, hostage release deal including freeing 3 Americans
Hamas took about 240 hostages from Israel during its terror attack on Oct. 7, when it killed approximately 1,200 people
By Lawrence Richard , Bradford Betz Fox News
Published November 21, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-hamas-agree-temporary-cease-fire-hostage-release-deal-americans
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Biden offers apology to Muslim-American leaders for questioning Hamas death toll: report
Stepheny Price
November 26, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-offers-apology-muslim-american-023546626.html
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Animals.
Hamas ‘no longer has control’ of its youngest Israeli hostage
IDF say 10-month-old Kfir and his family have been handed to a separate Palestinian terror group in southern city of Khan Yunis
By Henry Bodkin,
SENIOR REPORTER, IN JERUSALEM
27 November 2023
https://archive.is/LP64x#selection-2403.4-2455.19
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Leverage? White House Confirms Nine Americans *Still* Held Hostage by Hamas
ED MORRISSEY November 28, 2023
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/11/28/leverage-white-house-confirms-nine-americans-still-held-hostage-by-hamas-n595187
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White House tells Israel to scale BACK Gaza offensive in 'weeks' - but Netanyahu warns he won't stop until Hamas is 'eliminated'
Jake Sullivan met Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu in Tel Aviv on Thursday
He told Netanyahu that he must move to a low-intensity campaign 'in weeks'
Aid agencies are warning of a humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza
By ROB CRILLY, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 14 December 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12865455/Netanyahu-Israel-Gaza-lower-intensity-Sullivan-Hamas.html
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First American to die in Hamas captivity has NY ties; wife remains held by terrorists
By Melissa Koenig
Published Dec. 22, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/12/22/news/hamas-hostage-with-ny-ties-first-american-dead-in-captivity/
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NY native held hostage in Gaza has been killed — Hamas terrorists still holding body
By Melissa Koenig
Published Dec. 28, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/12/28/news/judi-weinstein-haggai-new-york-native-held-hostage-in-gaza-has-been-killed/
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Israel Privately Estimates as Many as 50 Hostages Could Be Dead
Number has been used in hostage negotiations between Israel and Hamas
By Summer Said, Nancy A. Youssef and Jared Malsin
Feb. 6, 2024
https://archive.is/wwPLP#selection-5685.0-5771.12
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U.S. Vetoes U.N. Resolution Demanding Immediate Gaza Cease-Fire
In a surprise move ahead of the vote, the United States circulated a rival U.N. Security Council resolution that would support a temporary cease-fire in Gaza.
Edith M. Lederer
Feb 20, 2024
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-gaza-cease-fire-un-resolutions_n_65d48ac2e4b0b65d69207fde
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Strategic blow: Alleged Israeli airstrike takes out Iranian general in Damascus
The strike killed Mohammad Reza Zahedi, a top commander in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), according to a report in Reuters, citing a security source in Lebanon.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF, YONAH JEREMY BOB, REUTERS
APRIL 1, 2024
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-794796
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First lady Jill Biden reportedly urging the president privately to end the war in Gaza: 'Stop, stop it now'
President Biden has faced a lot of backlash over his handling of the Israel-Hamas war
By Hanna Panreck Fox News
Published April 4, 202
https://www.foxnews.com/media/first-lady-jill-biden-reportedly-urging-president-end-war-gaza-private-stop-stop-now
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Rubio accuses Biden of leaking Netanyahu call to appease anti-Israel activists: 'Game they are playing'
Iran launched an unprecedented aerial attack on Israel, firing 170 drones, more than 30 cruise missiles and more than 120 ballistic missiles on Saturday
By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published April 15, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rubio-accuses-biden-leaking-netanyahu-call-appease-anti-israel-activists-game-they-playing
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Iran directly attacks Israel. The Middle East was already a powder keg after Biden got elected. He now has on the verge of possibly WWIII.
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Iran directly attacks Israel. The Middle East was already a powder keg after Biden got elected. He now has on the verge of possibly WWIII.
The Middle East has been a 'powder keg' for as long as I can remember... at least since 1948 when Israel declared its independence. Today, Israeli President Isaac Herzog and his advisors are on the verge of starting WWIII.
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The Middle East has been a 'powder keg' for as long as I can remember... at least since 1948 when Israel declared its independence. Today, Israeli President Isaac Herzog and his advisors are on the verge of starting WWIII.
Yes it has pretty much been a volatile place for as long as I can remember too. But it has not always been on the verge of all out war.
No Israel is not on the verge of starting WWIII. They are defending themselves from terrorist attacks. They are fighting for their survival. One of my friends who lives in Israel just sent me video of the drone attacks from her balcony. They have a "safe room." Imagine sitting in your living room and having to worry about a foreign country dropping bombs in your neighborhood trying to kill you. That is the existence for many Israelis.
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Yes it has pretty much been a volatile place for as long as I can remember too. But it has not always been on the verge of all out war.
No Israel is not on the verge of starting WWIII. They are defending themselves from terrorist attacks. They are fighting for their survival. One of my friends who lives in Israel just sent me video of the drone attacks from her balcony. They have a "safe room." Imagine sitting in your living room and having to worry about a foreign country dropping bombs in your neighborhood trying to kill you. That is the existence for many Israelis.
It is difficult for me to accurately imagine such an attack because I have never experienced one. The closest in person reference I would have of is when I lived in West Berlin, Germany with my aunt and uncle in 1949 when I was 4 years old. And to be honest, I do not remember seeing bombed out buildings. It is possible that they protected me from seeing the destruction or my memory of it has faded over the past 75 years.
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I've had more than enough of Muslims & Jews Fighting over Fairytale nonsense
Israel should've of never been created
Now just Blow the Fucking lot up as this Fighting is never going to stop
& likely just get worse & involving many other countries
Enough is Enough. FFS.
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I've had more than enough of Muslims & Jews Fighting over Fairytale nonsense
Israel should've of never been created
Now just Blow the Fucking lot up as this Fighting is never going to stop
& likely just get worse & involving many other countries
Enough is Enough. FFS.
You know what I call that statement? Common ground. Well said.
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You know what I call that statement? Common ground. Well said.
Israel was likely created where it is to ensure ongoing conflict
as it was a certainty there would be no lasting peace.
I'd say it's a high probability if there is a 3rd WW it will start
around there & Israel will be a precursor.
Hope I'm wrong - as i'd rather be proved wrong than Right.
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Israel strikes back at Iran: Explosions rock airbase in city linked to Tehran's nuke program but US denies nuclear facilities were targeted after Netanyahu launched attack in defiance of Biden
Explosions rang out in the central Iranian city of Isfahan around 5am local time
Iranian officials and state media outlets downplayed the scale of the attack
By WILL POTTER and DAVID AVERRE
PUBLISHED: 18 April 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13326307/Israel-strikes-Iran-war-Isfahan-rockets-tehran.html
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IDF hits 40 Hezbollah sites; Gallant says group’s south Lebanon command decimated
Fighter jets, artillery target weapon depots, assets in Ayta ash-Shab amid incessant attacks, including missile fire on Avivim
April 24, 2024
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-hits-40-hezbollah-sites-gallant-says-groups-south-lebanon-command-decimated/