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Developing Countries End Boycott At Climate Talks
« on: December 14, 2009, 11:49:10 AM »

Developing countries end boycott at climate talks

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By MICHAEL CASEY, Associated Press Writer Michael Casey, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 18 mins ago

COPENHAGEN – Poor countries ended a boycott of U.N. climate talks Monday after getting assurances that rich nations were not conspiring to soften their commitments to cutting greenhouse gases, European officials said.

European Union environment spokesman Andreas Carlgren said informal talks resolved the impasse, which was started by African countries and backed by major developing countries, including China and India.

Rich and poor countries "found a reasonable solution," he said.

Developing countries agreed to return to all working groups that they abandoned earlier in the day at the 192-nation conference, said Anders Frandsen, a spokesman for conference president Connie Hedegaard.

The boycott had disrupted efforts to forge a pact on global warming and forced the cancellation of formal working groups, delaying the frantic work of negotiators trying to resolve technical issues before the arrival of more than 110 world leaders, including President Barack Obama, later this week.

The move was largely seen as a ploy to shift the agenda to the responsibilities of the industrial countries and make emissions reductions the first item for discussion Tuesday.

"We are really prepared to discuss all issues in the negotiations. It means also absolutely all issues under the Kyoto Protocol," Carlgren said.

The developing countries want to extend the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which imposed penalties on rich nations if they did not comply with its strict emissions limits but made no such binding demands on developing nations.

Poor countries, supported by China, said Hedegaard had raised suspicion that the conference was likely to kill the Kyoto Protocol. The United States withdrew from Kyoto over concerns that it would harm the U.S. economy and that China, India and other major greenhouse gas emitters were not required to take action. China is now the world's largest greenhouse gas polluter.

It was the second time the Africans have disrupted the climate talks. At the last round of negotiations in November, the African bloc forced a one-day suspension until wealthy countries agreed to spell out what steps they will take to reduce emissions.

"They are trying to put the pressure on" before Obama and other world leaders arrive, said Gustavo Silva-Chavez, a climate change specialist with the Environmental Defense Fund. "They want to make sure that developed countries are not left off the hook."

An African delegate said developing countries decided to block the negotiations at a meeting hours before the conference was to resume. He said applause broke out every time China, India or another country supported the proposal to stall the talks.

Jake Schmidt of the Natural Resources Defense Fund said "this is all part of the negotiating dynamic, especially as you get closer to the end game."

U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer said Hedegaard was holding informal consultations with delegates "to get things going."

Canada's Environment Minister Jim Prentice said the dispute set back negotiations.

"We have lost some time. There is no doubt about that," Prentice said. "It is not particularly helpful, but all in all it is our responsibility to get on with it and continue to negotiate."

In Washington, the White House announced a new program drawing funds from international partners to spend $350 million over five years to give developing nations clean energy technology to curb greenhouse gas emissions and reduce global warming.

The program will distribute solar power alternatives for homes, including sun-powered lanterns, supply cleaner equipment and appliances and work to develop renewable energy systems in the world's poorer nations.

The U.S. share of the program will amount to $85 million, with the rest coming from Australia, Britain, the Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland, Energy Secretary Steven Chu said in Copenhagen.

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore told the conference the Arctic polar ice cap may disappear in the summer just a few years from now.

Some computer models suggest "that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap during some of the summer months will be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years," Gore said.

Gore, who won a Nobel Peace Prize for his work on climate change, joined the foreign ministers of Norway and Denmark in presenting two new reports on melting Arctic ice.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's office said he would go to Copenhagen on Tuesday — two days earlier than planned — to try to inject momentum into the talks. His spokesman denied that Brown — facing a national election by June — was seeking any personal credit if a deal is struck.

Earlier Monday, British Climate Change Secretary Ed Miliband said countries needed to offer more than fast-start financing for developing nations, noting that the British have called for a yearly fund of $100 billion by 2020.

The financing is intended to help poorer nations build coastal protection from rising seas, modify or shift crops threatened by drought, build water supplies and irrigation systems, preserve forests, improve health care to deal with diseases spread by warming, and move from fossil fuel to low-carbon energy systems.

At the conference center, throngs of newly arrived delegates, journalists and climate activists jammed the security and accreditation lines, forcing police to shut down the nearby subway stop.

In downtown Copenhagen, police said they detained about 20 people among 3,000 climate activists protesting outside Parliament.

More than 1,200 others were detained in weekend protests, although almost all were released after questioning. About a dozen were arraigned on preliminary charges of assaulting police officers or carrying sharp objects.

There were also sporadic reports of vandalism across the city overnight Monday.

Police spokesman Henrik Moeller Jakobsen said 12 cars had been set on fire, including three vehicles belonging to Danish power company Dong Energy. Vandals also smashed windows and threw red paint at the headquarters of the Danish Immigration Service. It was not immediately clear whether those attacks were related to the conference.
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Re: Developing Countries End Boycott At Climate Talks
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 12:09:31 PM »
I've been saying it for the past few years, but no one has been listening. The balance of power on this planet has shifted, and the key decision makers and players now and in the future will be China & India. Their decisions will dictate the course of actions or rather reactions by previous "superpowers" or previous global players. The US will no longer have it's way with the planet. We are seeing the democratization of power on the planet, with China & India being the deciding factors for all concerned. You want to influence the world? ...get China & India on your side.
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Re: Developing Countries End Boycott At Climate Talks
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 12:22:40 PM »
Copenfrauden: The Scandals Behind Global Warming
The Heritage Foundation ^ | December 11, 2009 | Nick Loris


Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 2:29:24 PM by thackney

Forget the dire economic consequences of a Copenhagen climate change treaty for a second and think about the fraud involved.

Carbon Trading Fraud

Take the European Union, for instance, which implemented a carbon trading scheme analogous to a cap and trade system. And it has been fraught with fraud. French officials are investigating a $230 million carbon trading fraud scheme and this is only the tip of the iceberg in what is a startling revelation and huge blow to the climate talks in Copenhagen:

Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement arm against organized crime, announced on Wednesday that carbon-trading fraud has cost the bloc’s governments $7.4 billion in lost tax revenue over the last 18 months.

“We have an ongoing investigation,’’ said Soren Pedersen, Europol’s chief spokesman, in a telephone interview on Thursday from The Hague. “We’re afraid the fraud is not completely finished yet, unfortunately. But it’s positive to see that actions are being taken and we hope soon it will disappear.”

These Enronesque situations will inevitably occur in the United States, guaranteeing that emissions will not be reduced, but what it will do is invite more burdensome regulations that thwart economic activity, adding on to the economic pain of higher energy prices as a result of carbon caps. It allows for corporations to manipulate a system at the expense of the consumer and the taxpayer while giving the market economy a bad name. This is not a market economy; it’s fraud and deceit that results from politicians trying to create their own desirable system.

Moreover, since the United States is largely blamed for “causing the climate catastrophe”, other countries will be monitoring the U.S. while they fall short of their own emissions targets and other treaty requirements.

Global Warming’s Robin Hood

Sadly, that’s not the only scandal at Copenhagen. The way things are going between developed nations and developing nations at Copenhagen, one would think that Robin Hood was the secretary-general of the United Nations, not Ban Ki Moon. One of the underlying themes has been to take from the rich and give to the poor…to fight climate change, of course. George Soros said $100 billion in funds from developed countries to developing ones “could just turn this conference from failure to success.”

Or it could add to the fraud of the climate change debate. Why wouldn’t leaders of developing countries play the global warming blame game if they can secure billions of dollars?

Scandalous Science

Then there’s the scandal behind the whole reason for cap and trade and climate treaties: the scientific consensus. Climategate revealed conspiracy, exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction and manipulation of data, and attempts to freeze out dissenting scientists from publishing their work in reputable journals.

Although proponents of cap and trade, Environmental Protection Agency regulations and/or climate treaties argue that now is the time for urgency, the reality is just the opposite is true. Now, more than ever, is the time to pull back the reigns on expensive global warming regulations.



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Re: Developing Countries End Boycott At Climate Talks
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 12:46:46 PM »
I've been saying it for the past few years, but no one has been listening. The balance of power on this planet has shifted, and the key decision makers and players now and in the future will be China & India. Their decisions will dictate the course of actions or rather reactions by previous "superpowers" or previous global players. The US will no longer have it's way with the planet. We are seeing the democratization of power on the planet, with China & India being the deciding factors for all concerned. You want to influence the world? ...get China & India on your side.

Has nothing to do with power, dipshit. Has everything to do with the fact that China and India are producing more pollution than anyone else and have zero regulations in place.  ::)

Kind of hard to stem pollution when the world's largest greenhouse gas producer (China) isn't on board.  ::)

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Re: Developing Countries End Boycott At Climate Talks
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 01:23:41 PM »
Has nothing to do with power, dipshit. Has everything to do with the fact that China and India are producing more pollution than anyone else and have zero regulations in place.  ::)

Kind of hard to stem pollution when the world's largest greenhouse gas producer (China) isn't on board.  ::)

Nor should they go along with it.Unlike our little ego mainiac community organiser president,China and India want to grow.Obama and his band of left wing loons,are hell bent on destroying this country.