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US casualties down significantly since the surge
« on: March 14, 2007, 08:26:51 AM »
Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers

BAGHDAD, March 14 (KUNA) -- The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre.

Only 17 members of the US military in Iraq have been killed since February 14 till March 13, compared to 42 from January 13 to February 13; the rate was on the decline during the first month of the security crackdown, compared to a month before.

Two of the 17 soldiers died at US Baghdad camps of non-combat causes.

The remarkable decrease in killings among the US troops came at a time when more of these troops were deployed in the Iraqi capital, especially in districts previously regarded as extremely hazardous for them such as Al-Sadr City, Al-Azamiyah, and Al-Doura.

Meanwhile, US attacks on insurgent strongholds north of Baghdad curbed attacks against helicopters. Before the new security plan, many such craft were downed leaving 20 soldiers dead.

The US army in Iraq had earlier said that sectarian fighting and violence in Baghdad had dropped sharply, by about 80 percent, since the launch of the plan.



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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 08:46:13 AM »
**CRICKETS**
Why are you posting good news about the war in Iraq?  People do not want to hear good news.  You're wasting your time. . . .

And this just in:  this story is not the lead story on CNN.com.  Shocking.   ::)

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 08:53:22 AM »
well, because immediately after the surge was started, baghdad and the white house coordinated a 'good news' program, where they started coordinating their news to show a false trend of improvement, that we could all thank W for.

chances are, they held off on risky shit for 2 months to let Bush take the victory.  then, congress will pass something, and bush will send em into clean up the mess that's festered for 2 months, men will die, and dems will get the blame.

if you don't believe that bush is playing politics with american soldiers' lives, you're incredibly naive.

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 09:00:49 AM »
Excellent results, everyone is happy with less US fatalities. Hopefully this crackdown will have a lasting effect.

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 09:31:10 AM »
Excellent results, everyone is happy with less US fatalities. Hopefully this crackdown will have a lasting effect.

Yes, hopefully lasting. Good to finally see something positive. With brighter leadership, this could've been done three or more years ago!!!!!!!

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 03:32:54 PM »
watch and see, folks.


the moment congress gets feisty, the US military will get more aggressive and casualties will go up.  Tony Snow will blame the dems.

Recall that Bush has no problem sending 3000 to their death so far in Iraq.  You think a few hundred to win the election in 2008 would be worth it to him?

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 10:30:48 PM »
watch and see, folks.


the moment congress gets feisty, the US military will get more aggressive and casualties will go up.  Tony Snow will blame the dems.

Recall that Bush has no problem sending 3000 to their death so far in Iraq.  You think a few hundred to win the election in 2008 would be worth it to him?

no offense,, but you seem like the most miserable, negative person in the world.. or do you keep your positive thoughts to yourself?

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 12:31:42 AM »
We shall see, but I can only hope that this bodes well for our troops in the future.

Kick some ass, then come home.

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 03:55:37 AM »
no offense,, but you seem like the most miserable, negative person in the world.. or do you keep your positive thoughts to yourself?

dude, when bush does something good, i point that out too.  He is doing very good things in advancing US fuel interests, and is working to cripple the chinese and russians. 

and i put stock in a lot of what bush used to say - he was very honest about the need to control iraq for oil costs.

However, when Tony Snow went on tv and was deeply offended by john kerry's joke a few months back, i realized the white house was acting like whiny bitches.  I mean seriously, whiny and pathetic.  And neocons have to be tough.  The "you hurt our feelings" line made them look bad.  So yes, they do use things for pity - and that's a flaw in the neocon agenda.  If you're gonna be ruthless for the greater good, I'm cool with that.  But don't act like bitches when you do it.  And I think they'll use deaths as political capital, yes.  You don't?

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 05:42:19 AM »
**CRICKETS**
Why are you posting good news about the war in Iraq?  People do not want to hear good news.  You're wasting your time. . . .

And this just in:  this story is not the lead story on CNN.com.  Shocking.   ::)
LOL!!!!   :D ;D

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 10:43:14 AM »
Apparently if the US finally ramps up production of the Cougar personnel vehicle (could've been done years ago) and uses them instead of Hummers, injuries will go down further. Supposedly no one's been killed while in one, even nearby an exploding IED:

Overview
The Cougar is produced by Force Protection Inc, a US-based company, who - according to their investor profile - "Manufactures ballistic and mine-protected vehicles through its wholly owned subsidiary. These specialty vehicles are protected against land mines, hostile fire, and Improvised Explosive Devices."


[edit] Variants
The Cougar comes in two configurations, a 4x4 and 6x6 configuration. It is designed for transport and protection of military engineers, especially against land mines and smaller ballistic explosives such as rocket propelled grenades, as well as Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs).

Tempest MPV (British version 4 x 4)
Cougar H (4 x 4)
Cougar HE (6 x 6)
Mastiff PPV (British version of the Cougar HE)

[edit] Operators
 Iraq
 United Kingdom [1][2]
 United States
The Cougar is used by the United States Armed Forces and Iraqi Army and will soon be delivered to the British Army. In service with those countries, the Cougar is used in a variety of roles, including the HEV (Hardened Engineer Vehicle) and the Joint Explosive Ordnance Disposal Rapid Response Vehicles (JERRV) whilst in service with the US Marine Corps.

The British forces variant will, compared to the original Cougar vehicle, be fitted with large, vertical armor plates which cover the large vision blocks and weapon firing ports. This is in line with British Army doctrine concerning the role of the APC/MICV, specifically that it is to carry troops under protection to the objective and then give firepower support when they have disembarked. It is not clear whether the Mastiff will be fitted with any armaments, either smoke dischargers and a cupola sporting a L7A2 GPMG (General Purpose Machine Gun) - the FN MAG 7.62 x 51 mm, L110A1 Light Machine Gun 5.56 x 45 mm or a L1A1 Heavy Machine Gun .50 inch (12.7 mm) BMG (Browning Machine gun). One aspect of the British Army's approach to APC/MICV units (which differs to that of the United States) is that ability of the average soldier to fire accurately out of the ports of a moving IFV has been questioned. The large armour plates will also give added side protection from RPGs or IED explosions.

The British Army has operated an early version of the Cougar since 2002 in the form of the Tempest MPV. [3][4] As of August 2006, the British Army has ordered 86 Cougar HE 6x6 vehicles for deployment in Iraq, and they will be known as Mastiff PPV (Protected Patrol Vehicle). It is conceivable that further orders may follow in the future if the vehicle performs adequately, perhaps replacing the older Saxon armoured trucks (some of which are being redesigned as armoured battlefield ambulances) until the introduction of FRES.


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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2007, 06:24:32 PM »
We shall see, but I can only hope that this bodes well for our troops in the future.

Kick some ass, then come home.

I have two Marines who are staying with my family and I. They both just got back from Iraq. One will be a civilian soon and the other guy will be going back.
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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2007, 06:56:13 PM »
Don't worry guys... 240 gets 90% of his news from Infowars and the likes of Alex Jones... the man is a loon.

The other 10% comes from hardline left wing media (NY Times, Wash Post, USAToday, etc.)

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2007, 08:43:17 PM »
Don't worry guys... 240 gets 90% of his news from Infowars and the likes of Alex Jones... the man is a loon.

The other 10% comes from hardline left wing media (NY Times, Wash Post, USAToday, etc.)

"hardline left wing"?

Dude, you are so fucking pwned it is beyond belief. 


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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2007, 08:56:27 PM »
"hardline left wing"?

Dude, you are so fucking pwned it is beyond belief. 



This from the guy who owns himself everytime he logs onto getbig.

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2007, 08:57:34 PM »
This from the guy who owns himself everytime he logs onto getbig.

ok hoss.

you go do your job now, mmkay?

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Re: US casualties down significantly since the surge
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2007, 09:01:59 PM »
ok hoss.

you go do your job now, mmkay?

excellent retort