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Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« on: April 06, 2009, 03:25:45 PM »
i hope its good as the first one, enjoy

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/zeitgeist_addendum.php

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 04:41:43 PM »
A global resource based economy is just codeword for communism.  Crap movie, same goes for the first one.  Made by the same people who bring us the mainstream media.  Don't fall for it.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 04:45:52 PM »
is the movie about jews being responsible for 9/11

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 04:48:26 PM »
is the movie about jews being responsible for 9/11

CNN discusses that:



It's racist to blame 9/11 on Jews, yet somehow it isn't racist to blame 9/11 on Afghanis?  ???

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 02:44:39 AM »
So who had the most to gain from a reason to invade Afghanistan & Iraq ??

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2009, 02:46:58 AM »
CNN discusses that:



It's racist to blame 9/11 on Jews, yet somehow it isn't racist to blame 9/11 on Afghanis?  ???

Mossad are NOT - all Jewish people - tho, huh ??
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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2009, 02:57:01 AM »
i hope its good as the first one, enjoy

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/zeitgeist_addendum.php

hahahaha, that pseudo-scientific nonsense is a waste of time.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2009, 03:12:26 AM »
hahahaha, that pseudo-scientific nonsense is a waste of time.

Rather than that sweping generalizations can you pick the film apart, scene by scene.
This would be far more convincing than a 1 line wonder, using the term "pseudo-scientific nonsense"

Give me something to work with here buddy !! ???
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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2009, 03:17:40 AM »
Rather that sweping generalizations can you pick the film apart, scene by scene.
This would be far more convincing than a 1 line wonder, using the term "pseudo-scientific nonsense"

Give me something to work with here buddy !! ???


I don't even bother watching that, but the stuff they said about religion in the first movie was nonsense, ripped-out-of-context-quotes and such.
And considering all the 9/11 conspiracy topics, that's just bullshit. People try to knock some "sense" into something they don't understand, plus that not only Iranians but US-Citizens themselves seem to see their own gouvernment as "the great Satan".

Read some books about religion or politics, you're much better off than some non-scientific internet hoax.


And read this:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2009, 03:29:42 AM »
I agree with the movie that the goverment is corrupt, especially the scarcity part, they re holding back technology so they can keep the money only for themselves. Why is a battery for electric cars so expensive and rare, they build them maybe 15 years ago.They want to continue to pollute the earth with gas and oil cause it makes profit. I like the concept that machines can do 90% of the work, so due to technology you wouldnt need to work, and everybody should have a abundance life without working. Its more complex than that but still the governments wants things to stay as it is.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 03:39:06 AM »
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And considering all the 9/11 conspiracy topics, that's just bullshit.

I have been on this stuff (genre) for well over a decade, & I agree that that film (not all) is FULL of holes !! some credible intel, but on the whole very little.
Just wanted to see if you knew where some of them were is all.

As for your statement above, are you saying - ALL - ARE 'BS' or just some ??

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 03:42:04 AM »
I agree with the movie that the goverment is corrupt, especially the scarcity part, they re holding back technology

They ?? they - they - they - they !! FFS, who.
& NO it is not the 'GOV' if you are using that term to refer to Clinton / Bush (1&2)  / Obama.

The word 'THEY' IS SO OVER USED IT IS JUST NOT FUNNY !!

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 03:44:38 AM »
The film wasnt about 9/11 or terrorism, it was more about $$.

they did say in us

yearly people that die on terrorism =70 people
people that die of heart disease= 450 000 people
us spends 6500x times more money on preventing terrorism than heart disease. and these are facts.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 03:47:59 AM »
They ?? they - they - they - they !! FFS, who.
& NO it is not the 'GOV' if you are using that term to refer to Clinton / Bush (1&2)  / Obama.

The word 'THEY' IS SO OVER USED IT IS JUST NOT FUNNY !!

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im not so good in english, but it makes you wonder why the government doesnt act against these accusations if they were false, you cant go around accusing the government and president like that without coucequences. so there is a lot of truth in this.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 04:05:31 AM »



im not so good in english, but it makes you wonder why the government doesnt act against these accusations if they were false, you cant go around accusing the government and president like that without coucequences. so there is a lot of truth in this.

DUDE YOU ARE NEARLY ON THE MONEY!!1

You are right, you cannot accuse the folks that run the world without consequenses, but you are wrong when you imply the likes of the president run anything.

Now, ask yourself this; will you get sacked/character assasinated/jailed for criticising the president, the queen, politicians in general... er nope.

Now, ask yourself, which group can you not criticise, and if you do so you will face the sack, character assasination, and JAIL in Europe?

To wit, which group does Zeitgeist not go near?

Now you have some uncomfortable truth.

Oy Vey.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2009, 04:08:57 AM »
I have a real problem with certain aspects of the film, which I am going to discuss in this post – so if you haven’t seen the film and you think that reading about elements of it will ruin the film for you…… then please don’t read on. (Plus my rant will make more sense if you have seen the movie)

The film concentrates on the “one world government/economy” theory, saying that there is a hidden agenda for the world, which is propagated behind the scenes by the world banks. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the US government is really controlled behind the scenes by the banks, and how the Federal Reserve and the concept of lending money to the government with interest holds a government as a slave. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the bankers deliberately set in place disastrous events (ie wars and calculated economic depressions) to gain further control and to maximise their own profits. I agree with this.

However as far as these “controlling bankers” go, the film names individuals, but it never identifies the collective commonality that they share. I’ll give you a big hint for those that need it – it starts with a “J”, ends with a “W” and has one other letter in between.

It discusses the American founding fathers and explains their reasons and vision for America to show how things have gotten so far off track. They quote Benjamin Franklin as saying “The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution”.

However, unlike the film makers, Benjamin Franklin had the courage to identify and NAME the group involved.

The film also takes the view that “who controls the money in a country has the real power over whoever is in government, not the government itself”. And it goes on to explain why this is so evil, and how this happened to the USA and is the cause of the mess they are in now.

Well that’s great, but the bit that I have a problem with is that this view of the world banks, this stranglehold of the banks on a country is also EXACTLY WHAT ADOLF HITLER WAS FIGHTING AGAINST.

Read through Hitlers early speeches (http://www.hitler.org/speeches/), and I can see so many parallels with what the film is saying, and what Hitler was fighting against. He was fighting against the stranglehold of the world banks, which was the key to putting control of the country back in the hands of the German people. Except that he also had the courage to identify and NAME the group involved.

But true to form (which makes me question the real motives behind this film). It’s OK when the US Founding Fathers do it, however Hitler (and Germany and National Solicalism) is once again vilified.

The films tells us how the US was “tricked” and/or manipulated their entry into the two world wars by these “powerful behind the scenes” bankers. That fine, however the films writers ignore the fact that Germany had exactly the same ploys used on them to force their position, and only paints Germany as an aggressor. The US is allowed to be a “victim” of these powerful and highly manipulative world bankers – however Hitler and Germany of course, is not.

The film claims to expose the big “hidden agenda and conspiracy” behind who is running the world, and wants us to believe that such vast and evil manipulation is possible. But if they have that “mind set”, why do they then pay homage to the greatest other lie and manipulation that the world has seen – the LIE OF THE HOLOCUAST. The film throws in a quick “mandatory” holocaust reference, making statements about the Zyklon B gas that was “used by the NAZI’s to kill millions”.

So you want us to believe that these money and power hungry “bankers”, will finance world wars, killing millions, and deliberately orchestrating economic collapses to further their own profits, however they would NEVER make up anything as horrible as the holocaust to use as another accompanying tool to stop any questioning of what the “jews” might be doing, to use as a tool to set up the state of Israel, and to use as a tool to enslave the German people into paying them BILLIONS of dollars in repatriations.

No, the world bankers are an evil and manipulative and nasty bunch, controlling the world behind the scenes, causing the deaths of millions for profit and power, but they would never be that bad! Nobody is “badder” than those horrible NAZI’s and what they did with the holocaust.

Think about it. National Socialist Germany was actually successful in getting rid of the jewish banks stranglehold of their country. And look at how Germany flourished in the 1930’s – it was magnificent. What a beautiful, proud and successful country was formed by Hitlers National Socialist policies. I look at film footage from those times, and all I see is the look of absolute happiness on the face of the German people. I see no evil, horrible “NAZI’s”, I see the success and happiness of the one small period in modern history where our race was free of the parasitic stranglehold of the jew. And look at what it achieved. And look at what a threat it was to them. That is why they have done everything they can to completely forbid ANY open and fair discussion on Hitler and NAZI Germany and completely annihilate any “positive view” of NAZI Germany. What a threat to their power this ideology contains, that it is still so suppressed over 60 years later.

At first glance you might watch this film and think “wow”, what an eye opener, it’s telling the truth of what is going on. However I am suspicious of the motives and credibility of this film, not because of what it says and questions, but because of what it DOESN’T say and question, and the small but deliberate continuation of the “evil NAZI” theme, despite the fact that Hitler realised and acted on exactly what the film wants you to realise and fight against. The film tells us to “wake up” and question what is happening around us, yet propagates what I consider to be the biggest myth of the 20th century.

The ending of the film was really suspicious too – a “world government” is bad, but then trying to keep “separate identities” is “conceited”, and that thinking about people being different on racial grounds is wrong – we should all just be “one happy people”, and that will ensure world peace.

What a load of crap. The ending of the film just didn’t make any sense, and I suspect this film is actually an accompaniment to the agenda it claims to be against, however it is just approaching it from a completely different angle.

It’s taking you down a different road, but ultimately, the destination will be the same.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2009, 04:11:33 AM »
3 buildings going down in freefall just from 2 planes and fire. its laughable.
too many question marks. large groups of architects and engineers can tell you its a joke.
dont forget that the fbi admitted helping with the bombing on the trade center in '93.
too easy to label it as another conspiracy story made by some hippies.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 04:42:22 AM »
epic jew

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 04:47:03 AM »

However as far as these “controlling bankers” go, the film names individuals, but it never identifies the collective commonality that they share. I’ll give you a big hint for those that need it – it starts with a “J”, ends with a “W” and has one other letter in between.



Oh man, can you just give me 1 more hint on this one, it's on the tip of that thing in my mouth.
The whatcha-ma-call-it - thingy.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 04:48:33 AM »
3 buildings going down in freefall just from 2 planes and fire. its laughable.


1 word 'Thermate'

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2009, 04:57:02 AM »
epic jew

Can you expand upon this concept a little, it is rather ambiguous.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2009, 04:57:35 AM »
I have been on this stuff (genre) for well over a decade, & I agree that that film (not all) is FULL of holes !! some credible intel, but on the whole very little.
Just wanted to see if you knew where some of them were is all.

As for your statement above, are you saying - ALL - ARE 'BS' or just some ??

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All 9/11 conspiracies are BS, planes flown by Al Quaeda terrorists where used as weapons against the US. As if that wasn't bad enough.

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2009, 05:04:00 AM »
I have a real problem with certain aspects of the film, which I am going to discuss in this post – so if you haven’t seen the film and you think that reading about elements of it will ruin the film for you…… then please don’t read on. (Plus my rant will make more sense if you have seen the movie)

The film concentrates on the “one world government/economy” theory, saying that there is a hidden agenda for the world, which is propagated behind the scenes by the world banks. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the US government is really controlled behind the scenes by the banks, and how the Federal Reserve and the concept of lending money to the government with interest holds a government as a slave. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the bankers deliberately set in place disastrous events (ie wars and calculated economic depressions) to gain further control and to maximise their own profits. I agree with this.

However as far as these “controlling bankers” go, the film names individuals, but it never identifies the collective commonality that they share. I’ll give you a big hint for those that need it – it starts with a “J”, ends with a “W” and has one other letter in between.

It discusses the American founding fathers and explains their reasons and vision for America to show how things have gotten so far off track. They quote Benjamin Franklin as saying “The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution”.

However, unlike the film makers, Benjamin Franklin had the courage to identify and NAME the group involved.

The film also takes the view that “who controls the money in a country has the real power over whoever is in government, not the government itself”. And it goes on to explain why this is so evil, and how this happened to the USA and is the cause of the mess they are in now.

Well that’s great, but the bit that I have a problem with is that this view of the world banks, this stranglehold of the banks on a country is also EXACTLY WHAT ADOLF HITLER WAS FIGHTING AGAINST.

Read through Hitlers early speeches (http://www.hitler.org/speeches/), and I can see so many parallels with what the film is saying, and what Hitler was fighting against. He was fighting against the stranglehold of the world banks, which was the key to putting control of the country back in the hands of the German people. Except that he also had the courage to identify and NAME the group involved.

But true to form (which makes me question the real motives behind this film). It’s OK when the US Founding Fathers do it, however Hitler (and Germany and National Solicalism) is once again vilified.

The films tells us how the US was “tricked” and/or manipulated their entry into the two world wars by these “powerful behind the scenes” bankers. That fine, however the films writers ignore the fact that Germany had exactly the same ploys used on them to force their position, and only paints Germany as an aggressor. The US is allowed to be a “victim” of these powerful and highly manipulative world bankers – however Hitler and Germany of course, is not.

The film claims to expose the big “hidden agenda and conspiracy” behind who is running the world, and wants us to believe that such vast and evil manipulation is possible. But if they have that “mind set”, why do they then pay homage to the greatest other lie and manipulation that the world has seen – the LIE OF THE HOLOCUAST. The film throws in a quick “mandatory” holocaust reference, making statements about the Zyklon B gas that was “used by the NAZI’s to kill millions”.

So you want us to believe that these money and power hungry “bankers”, will finance world wars, killing millions, and deliberately orchestrating economic collapses to further their own profits, however they would NEVER make up anything as horrible as the holocaust to use as another accompanying tool to stop any questioning of what the “jews” might be doing, to use as a tool to set up the state of Israel, and to use as a tool to enslave the German people into paying them BILLIONS of dollars in repatriations.

No, the world bankers are an evil and manipulative and nasty bunch, controlling the world behind the scenes, causing the deaths of millions for profit and power, but they would never be that bad! Nobody is “badder” than those horrible NAZI’s and what they did with the holocaust.

Think about it. National Socialist Germany was actually successful in getting rid of the jewish banks stranglehold of their country. And look at how Germany flourished in the 1930’s – it was magnificent. What a beautiful, proud and successful country was formed by Hitlers National Socialist policies. I look at film footage from those times, and all I see is the look of absolute happiness on the face of the German people. I see no evil, horrible “NAZI’s”, I see the success and happiness of the one small period in modern history where our race was free of the parasitic stranglehold of the jew. And look at what it achieved. And look at what a threat it was to them. That is why they have done everything they can to completely forbid ANY open and fair discussion on Hitler and NAZI Germany and completely annihilate any “positive view” of NAZI Germany. What a threat to their power this ideology contains, that it is still so suppressed over 60 years later.

At first glance you might watch this film and think “wow”, what an eye opener, it’s telling the truth of what is going on. However I am suspicious of the motives and credibility of this film, not because of what it says and questions, but because of what it DOESN’T say and question, and the small but deliberate continuation of the “evil NAZI” theme, despite the fact that Hitler realised and acted on exactly what the film wants you to realise and fight against. The film tells us to “wake up” and question what is happening around us, yet propagates what I consider to be the biggest myth of the 20th century.

The ending of the film was really suspicious too – a “world government” is bad, but then trying to keep “separate identities” is “conceited”, and that thinking about people being different on racial grounds is wrong – we should all just be “one happy people”, and that will ensure world peace.

What a load of crap. The ending of the film just didn’t make any sense, and I suspect this film is actually an accompaniment to the agenda it claims to be against, however it is just approaching it from a completely different angle.

It’s taking you down a different road, but ultimately, the destination will be the same.


you re a smart thoughtful man, you think it will ever happen that we dont longer need to work to survive?

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2009, 05:07:18 AM »
I have a real problem with certain aspects of the film, which I am going to discuss in this post – so if you haven’t seen the film and you think that reading about elements of it will ruin the film for you…… then please don’t read on. (Plus my rant will make more sense if you have seen the movie)

The film concentrates on the “one world government/economy” theory, saying that there is a hidden agenda for the world, which is propagated behind the scenes by the world banks. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the US government is really controlled behind the scenes by the banks, and how the Federal Reserve and the concept of lending money to the government with interest holds a government as a slave. I agree with this.

The film talks about how the bankers deliberately set in place disastrous events (ie wars and calculated economic depressions) to gain further control and to maximise their own profits. I agree with this.

However as far as these “controlling bankers” go, the film names individuals, but it never identifies the collective commonality that they share. I’ll give you a big hint for those that need it – it starts with a “J”, ends with a “W” and has one other letter in between.


Quality post, mate !!
!00% on the-fucking-money (scuse the pun)

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Re: Finally decided to watch Zeitgeist: Addendum 2008 (link)
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2009, 05:08:47 AM »

you think it will ever happen that we dont longer need to work to survive?

You are a Mexican - come on, out with it !!

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