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Very onest interview with Rony Rockel. (this is not a exact translation but basicly what he says..)

Says no Pro would ever admid what he realy takes..
But 13 grams per week would be a very low dose cycle for Yates or Coleman.
Back in the day they where doing crazy cycles.. (he isnt telling everything but it seems he knows what they where taking and to what extend)
 
Rockel was shocked after seing Yates for the first time, he thought it was impossible to weight this much and to be this big. Yates only did ten years of professional bodybuilding, because his body could not take more punishment. He saw him again later and Yates lost almost everything within a year, even his back. (was unrecognizable after one year off)

Rockel says: if they are bigger and harder, they take more.. there are no genetic exceptions to this rule..
atleast he has never seen a genetic outlier. He has never seen a good natural in his life.. (muscular and hard)

He heavily regrets that he didn't took enough steroids in his career, in the beginning he didn't knew any better (only did Dianabol, 800mg Propionat, Winstrol, 2007 Australien GP) and later because he was low on money\scared and developed Diabetes. He did some heavy cycles later but it wasn't enough in his opinion.

He has seen the stack's of some big guys through a popular trainer and 1.2 grams of Tren a week was standard. Says he only did barely a third of that. (later in career)

If he could start all over again he would go all in from the beginning..  :D

He also says that this is only his opinion and what he knows about bodybuilding. (one of the most active Pro's, knows alot of people\Trainers and programs). Rockel says when the Pro's reveal theire low dose stack's in interviews they have a hard time to hold back their own laughter..

Also says alot of competitions are rigged and Joe Weider's plan was to make Günter Schlierkamp Mr. Olympia. :O


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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2022, 07:59:31 AM »
stupid twat

Just think about how many shots you would need to get all that in

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2022, 08:05:24 AM »
Seems like Ronny Rockel is dealing some to make a living.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2022, 08:11:18 AM »
Seems like Ronny Rockel is dealing some to make a living.

No, i don't think so, he is just telling the truth..
He know's what it takes to be in the Mr. Olympia top six.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2022, 08:33:21 AM »

1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P".   ::)

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2022, 08:53:46 AM »

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2022, 09:37:06 AM »
No, i don't think so, he is just telling the truth..
He know's what it takes to be in the Mr. Olympia top six.
yep, 800mgs of test prop

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2022, 09:41:56 AM »
1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P".   ::)

You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..

This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)

Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.

Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)

craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..

To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2022, 10:33:11 AM »
You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..

This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)

Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.

Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)

craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..

To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)

Did Dallas die of kidney failure? Hard to keep track of all these fools who die in the industry. I didn’t even realize that the Mr O, Cedric I think?, was dead.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2022, 10:58:43 AM »
1.5 to 2 grams seemed to be the standard

can't imagine 13 grams or 22 grams... WTF???

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2022, 11:51:15 AM »
Is he a touch retarded?


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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2022, 11:56:18 AM »

You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..


Well thats good to hear he told about his high-cycles as well...

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2022, 11:58:20 AM »
Did Dallas die of kidney failure? Hard to keep track of all these fools who die in the industry. I didn’t even realize that the Mr O, Cedric I think?, was dead.

Cedric won an Arnold, Shawn Rhoden (Mr. Olympia) - both dead...

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2022, 12:17:02 PM »
1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P".   ::)

That was my immediate thought.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2022, 12:18:28 PM »
Ronnie is an inspiration.  A true gladiator

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2022, 12:55:39 PM »
Well thats good to hear he told about his high-cycles as well...

He was very open about everything in this interview, he is also an introvert and absolute believable, (in my opinion) He has not the personality to lie about things, his Bodybuilding career is long over anyway.

He also seems kind of depressed that he didn't do enough to climp the top and started too late with this mega-dosing approach in his career and absolutly regrets it today.

It seems these crazy stacks are more the norm than exceptions.
What they found in Dallas Mc Carvers blood is probably nothing spezial and just the same what they all take.
His body just couldn't handle it.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2022, 01:12:42 PM »
How thick do you think their blood is at that dosage?

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2022, 01:14:41 PM »
How thick do you think their blood is at that dosage?

I have no idea but i guess they take stuff to make it thinner..

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2022, 01:56:16 PM »
They all do “high” dosages

Genetics my ass, they downplay to look like they are some special specimen

All a joke, competitive bbing is a joke

I enjoy working out, not the whole culture of bbing and it’s g4p, homos, schmoes, drug dealers and criminals, mental cases

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2022, 02:11:49 PM »
Ruhl took shits bigger than this guy. Like every pro he took as much as he could as long as he could.

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2022, 03:15:04 PM »
Ruhl took shits bigger than this guy. Like every pro he took as much as he could as long as he could.

I remeber an old poster OTH wrote that he knew two pros who didnt even know how much they took, they used to just keep injecting until they ran out of places to inject due to the pain at the site

I think you would have to do something like that to be able to take multiple grams of anything

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2022, 05:19:00 PM »
The more gear you take the more it works to infinity? Sick! This dude is a retard

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2022, 01:12:32 AM »
I remeber an old poster OTH wrote that he knew two pros who didnt even know how much they took, they used to just keep injecting until they ran out of places to inject due to the pain at the site

I think you would have to do something like that to be able to take multiple grams of anything

I knew OTH and talked extensively with him back then. He knew his shit and had a pretty good physique, guy was a straight up guy, didn’t BS

I remember him mentioning that

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2022, 01:30:07 AM »
Is he a touch retarded?



and then some. 

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Re: Ronny Rockel: 13 grams would be a low dose cycle for Yates and Coleman
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2022, 01:34:25 AM »
Six grams is the sweetspot.

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