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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
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California Town Declares Independence From “Dictatorship Powers” Of State, Federal COVID Mandates
A town in California has declared itself a “constitutional republic,” independent of executive orders issued by the federal or state governments, in protest of lockdowns, mask mandates and compulsory vaccinations.
https://summit.news/2021/11/26/video-california-town-declares-independence-from-dictatorship-powers-of-federal-covid-mandates/
'The vice-mayor further explained, “I believe that worldwide, but especially in California, that the very fabric of our nation is at a crossroads of how much authority we’ll let the government have,” comparing the struggle to a war.
“I don’t believe that anybody wins when the government has more authority,” Thompson emphasised, adding and “every time that you lose freedom, usually it takes bloodshed to get it back.”
“We’re getting threats of loss of money for our city, but for us, and especially for me, they can have their money; we want freedom in California, we want freedom in Oroville, and so that’s what we’re standing up for,” Thompson further urged.'
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Hopefully, people wake up.
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We need smaller government and not larger as in socialism.
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
Omicron will kill you.
(https://cdn.lemediaen442.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/28123951/Omicron-1.jpg)
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The jew controlled governments are mandating DEATH. All legal options have been essentially exhausted as unconstitutional mandates requiring injections of deadly substances completely annul the social contract and any basis for peaceful coexistence with the tyrants and their democidal plan.
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Massive non-compliance is the only way we end this nightmare.
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It's a contagious virus that quickly spreads and does hospitalize or even kill a small %.
My wife and I had the 2 shot Pfizer vaccine last spring and recently got our booster.
I also got my flu vaccine when I got my booster. Never had side effects or any problems .
When I went to Japan in the USMC, we got several air gun vaccinations to prevent us from a variety of diseases.
Nobody protested and we didn't stop doing our job. BUT, we did get vaccinated .
It's a legit health problem and we need to deal with it as a health problem.
Let's end the crazy rumors of human extinction or covid being some evil plan to control people.
It's a virus, and we need to deal with it and keep moving.
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Wake up, it's a mad made virus to reign in deadly injections created by the Jewish cabal to kill everyone off.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uqNHhFzKTUKp/
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
Great post!
You've singlehandedly managed to demonstrate exactly why we NEED government mandated shutdowns and vaccine passports.
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Great post!
You've singlehandedly managed to demonstrate exactly why we NEED government mandated shutdowns and vaccine passports.
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What- no fart jokes? tsk tsk
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
And if you happen to get sick with COVID, say no to that too. Say no to quarantine. Say no to the hospital. Say no to death - this one might be a bit more difficult, since once your dead, you'll say nothing at all.
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
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Exactly Right
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Great post!
You've singlehandedly managed to demonstrate exactly why we NEED government mandated shutdowns and vaccine passports.
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Fuck off Nazi .
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It's a contagious virus that quickly spreads and does hospitalize or even kill a small %.
My wife and I had the 2 shot Pfizer vaccine last spring and recently got our booster.
I also got my flu vaccine when I got my booster. Never had side effects or any problems .
When I went to Japan in the USMC, we got several air gun vaccinations to prevent us from a variety of diseases.
Nobody protested and we didn't stop doing our job. BUT, we did get vaccinated .
It's a legit health problem and we need to deal with it as a health problem.
Let's end the crazy rumors of human extinction or covid being some evil plan to control people.
It's a virus, and we need to deal with it and keep moving.
And where did the Virus come from ??? Wuhan Virology lab & who's money trail leads to that lab ????
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And where did the Virus come from ??? Wuhan Virology lab & who's money trail leads to that lab ????
Your problem is that you trust a “Chinese mystery virus” over an American made vaccine. That makes NO sense.
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Your problem is that you trust a “Chinese mystery virus” over an American made vaccine. That makes NO sense.
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Your Problem is You're a Sheep Like Imbecilic Programmed Fucking Nazi.
Now Fuck Off.
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The jew controlled governments are mandating DEATH. All legal options have been essentially exhausted as unconstitutional mandates requiring injections of deadly substances completely annul the social contract and any basis for peaceful coexistence with the tyrants and their democidal plan.
Welcome to Stormfront. Fuckface!!!!!!
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Your Problem is You're a Sheep Like Imbecilic Programmed Fucking Nazi.
Now Fuck Off.
I’m a sheep?
Other than “not getting the vaccine” name ONE independent thing you’ve ever done in your life?
I bet you can’t.
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And where did the Virus come from ??? Wuhan Virology lab & who's money trail leads to that lab ????
STOP the crazy conspiracy crap...please.
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And if you happen to get sick with COVID, say no to that too. Say no to quarantine. Say no to the hospital. Say no to death - this one might be a bit more difficult, since once your dead, you'll say nothing at all.
Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.
So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?
I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.
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Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.
So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?
I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.
what do the taxes we pay have to do w medical treatment?
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STOP the crazy conspiracy crap...please.
Why Don't you STOP your Crazy Pro Vaccine Conspiracy Crap ??? Please
You Failed to answer the questions.
You are not the be all / Know all on Getbig.
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I’m a sheep?
Other than “not getting the vaccine” name ONE independent thing you’ve ever done in your life?
I bet you can’t.
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Fuck Off Nazi
I'm Not Telling You Anything
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Fuck Off Nazi
I'm Not Telling You Anything
Interesting. That’s EXACTLY what I though you’d say. You SHEEP are so predictable.
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Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.
So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?
I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.
It’s just a matter of time before the unvaccinated lose the right to COVID treatment. Our system can’t handle it.
Also, it’s already happened in Singapore. I hear it’s very popular there too.
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what do the taxes we pay have to do w medical treatment?
In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.
I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you :D
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Never comply.
Tell people to fuck off. They are all cowards. Worthless filthy cowards. They all need to die.
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It’s just a matter of time before the unvaccinated lose the right to COVID treatment. Our system can’t handle it.
Also, it’s already happened in Singapore. I hear it’s very popular there too.
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Wait for the long term vaxx side effects kicking in and you'll spend most of your life between hospital beds :D
Submissive c.unt
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Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.
So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?
I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.
You missed the point which is if someone seriously denies COVID existence and everything connected with it, how can they get sick or die from something that isn't real?
Why do you care so much about my 'butthole'? I guarantee it doesn't give a shit about you.
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Wait for the long term vaxx side effects kicking in and you'll spend most of your life between hospital beds :D
Submissive c.unt
8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.
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8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.
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You're already acting like a slut so maybe that's a side effect of being vaxxed, and that's worst than death.
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8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.
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5 years time after booster number 23
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Interesting. That’s EXACTLY what I though you’d say. You SHEEP are so predictable.
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Fuck Off Nazi
Ha, Sheep, that's you NumbNuts.
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In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.
I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you :D
Sorry, forgot that posters from other countries post here ;D anyways: the american government exists to generate profits for corporations, not to serve its constituents
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Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.
So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?
I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.
Think about like this:
You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.
Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.
Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.
The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.
The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)
No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT, getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.
Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?
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In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.
I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you :D
We have 12 aircraft carriers, lots of nuclear submarines, stealth bombers and jets, etc.
How many of those does your country have?
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Think about like this:
You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.
Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.
Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.
The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.
The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)
No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT, getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.
Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?
Where do you come up with the 40x figure? What age group?
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Think about like this:
You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.
Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.
Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.
The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.
The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)
No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT, getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.
Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?
Because practicality (common sense) has no place amateur politics
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We have 12 aircraft carriers, lots of nuclear submarines, stealth bombers and jets, etc.
How many of those does your country have?
Yes, our government gives private military industrial contractors ungodly amounts of money. Imagine if they spent that money on their constituents instead :'(
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Because practicality (common sense) has no place amateur politics
Common sense would suggest I’d rather take the risk of the virus vs long term effects of gene therapy that was studied and executed in less than a year. Anybody who took that thing is a lab experiment whether you like it or not and now you’re on your third shot in less than a year. Meanwhile I just dealt with what was mild cold and recovered naturally.
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Common sense would suggest I’d rather take the risk of the virus vs long term effects of gene therapy that was studied and executed in less than a year. Anybody who took that thing is a lab experiment whether you like it or not and now you’re on your third shot in less than a year. Meanwhile I just dealt with what was mild cold and recovered naturally.
That's great YOU recovered. How many people did you spread the virus to?
The virus is in you body for the rest of your life now. Most viruses have long term side effects. What will the long term effects of COVID be?
Also, it been shown that "natural immunity" doesn't last very long. Odds are you will get the virus again.
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In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.
I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you :D
You're coming to terms with the truth about socialism. I know they told you it's nice. I know they said we're all in this together. But with universal programs come universal mandates.
Once you acknowledge that you're paying for fat people's heart attacks while having zero say in your own destiny, you might conclude that systems which strip you of your natural right of self determination and withhold life sustaining essentials if you try to make your own choices instead of doing as you're told are actually the opposite of nice.
At which point you'll feel kinda silly for expecting reciprocity or fairness from systems which have to destroy dissent in order to survive. You'll see that you have been lied to, that you basically live in a large prison, and taking about deserving services in exchange for taxation is begging your jailer for help because you've been a well behaved inmate.
Clearly, I'm off the deep end here. So here's a crackpot idea: If you want medical care, you go to the doctor and pay him for it. You don't go to the government. You don't go to an insurance company. When I want apples, I buy them from someone who sells apples. You buy the thing you want from the person who sells it. A lunatic fringe notion, I admit.
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Systems of collective equity are by definition inequitable since they imply a super-collective administrative authority which inequitably enforces equity. "Some more equal than others."
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To stop inhibiting an activity doesn't bestow the right to perform the activity. If you're trying to walk down the sidewalk and I keep sticking my arms out and blocking the sidewalk, you wouldn't say, after I finally stand aside, that you didn't have the right to take a walk until I gave it to you. You wouldn't say it if I had a squad of hired goons helping me. It wouldn't even be true if I got all the homeowners who live on that street to help me. Even though there are thousands of ways I can stop you from taking a walk, none of them make me the source of your right to take a walk.
Because someone can stop you exercising your natural rights doesn't make them the source of your rights. Don't be fooled.
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8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.
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It's located right next to the mass graves from all the Covid deaths.
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You're coming to terms with the truth about socialism. I know they told you it's nice. I know they said we're all in this together. But with universal programs come universal mandates.
Once you acknowledge that you're paying for fat people's heart attacks while having zero say in your own destiny, you might conclude that systems which strip you of your natural right of self determination and withhold life sustaining essentials if you try to make your own choices instead of doing as you're told are actually the opposite of nice.
At which point you'll feel kinda silly for expecting reciprocity or fairness from systems which have to destroy dissent in order to survive. You'll see that you have been lied to, that you basically live in a large prison, and taking about deserving services in exchange for taxation is begging your jailer for help because you've been a well behaved inmate.
Clearly, I'm off the deep end here. So here's a crackpot idea: If you want medical care, you go to the doctor and pay him for it. You don't go to the government. You don't go to an insurance company. When I want apples, I buy them from someone who sells apples. You buy the thing you want from the person who sells it. A lunatic fringe notion, I admit.
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Systems of collective equity are by definition inequitable since they imply a super-collective administrative authority which inequitably enforces equity. "Some more equal than others."
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To stop inhibiting an activity doesn't bestow the right to perform the activity. If you're trying to walk down the sidewalk and I keep sticking my arms out and blocking the sidewalk, you wouldn't say, after I finally stand aside, that you didn't have the right to take a walk until I gave it to you. You wouldn't say it if I had a squad of hired goons helping me. It wouldn't even be true if I got all the homeowners who live on that street to help me. Even though there are thousands of ways I can stop you from taking a walk, none of them make me the source of your right to take a walk.
Because someone can stop you exercising your natural rights doesn't make them the source of your rights. Don't be fooled.
What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?
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It's located right next to the mass graves from all the Covid deaths.
Here's an EXAMPLE of a COVID mass grave, where's the ones for the vaccine?
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/6r-Zhb5dkTY-b2BB9zASfNmnyCk=/1500x1076/media/img/photo/2020/06/coronavirus-latin-america/a02_1221662792/original.jpg)
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What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?
What happens to the healthy guy who keeps paying for his fat neighbor's heart attacks under the current system?
I'll make you a deal. Have a pobrecito system so no one is left out in the cold and I'll even chip in taxwise. In exchange, I and others are unencumbered in forming agreements with any service provider who wants our business, which is what naturally happens in the absence of government interference.
You get your socialist safety net but the government is not party to every agreement. Everybody gets what he wants.
So I don't want to hear any more about "You hurt others by hurting the system, therefore you must abdicate individual agency completely and obey all government dictates without question or delay."
In b4 "But you'll get a better quality of care and that isn't fair!" Tread carefully now. You don't want to acknowledge that socialist systems produce crappier results.
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What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?
Assuming Tapeworm lives in the U.S. everyone is entitled to medical care. Hospitals (the ER) cannot legally turn people away who cannot afford to pay. Which is why they sometimes end up treating non-emergency patients. There are a number of reasons an individual doctor can refuse to treat a patient, including inability to pay.
In 2020, only 8.6% of the population did not have medical insurance, which is not the same as saying 8.6% couldn't afford to pay for healthcare. Some people 'self-insure'. 66.5% had private health insurance. Most of these are employment-based policies at 54%. About 10% buy their health coverage outright. The remaining 35% have some form of public or government provided health insurance; such as, Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-care, VA or CHAMPVA (also veterans).
Basically, there are a couple of ways in which the cost of healthcare insurance is covered. It's an employee benefit, which is part of what employers factor in the cost of personnel. Technically, if they didn't have to pay benefits, the could afford to pay employees a higher wage. A portion of Federal and State income tax goes to fund social services, including public healthcare insurance (people with high income tax, subsidize those who pay low income tax). Entrepreneurs buy private health insurance the cost of which is passed on to their customers. So, no matter how you cut it, it is basically socialized medicine.
Do people with quality medical insurance get better healthcare? Absolutely. And, unlike countries with single payer medical insurance (socialized medicine) those with insurance are often treated more expediently and have full elective medical needs coverage (non emergency).
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What happens to the healthy guy who keeps paying for his fat neighbor's heart attacks under the current system?
I'll make you a deal. Have a pobrecito system so no one is left out in the cold and I'll even chip in taxwise. In exchange, I and others are unencumbered in forming agreements with any service provider who wants our business, which is what naturally happens in the absence of government interference.
You get your socialist safety net but the government is not party to every agreement. Everybody gets what he wants.
So I don't want to hear any more about "You hurt others by hurting the system, therefore you must abdicate individual agency completely and obey all government dictates without question or delay."
In b4 "But you'll get a better quality of care and that isn't fair!" Tread carefully now. You don't want to acknowledge that socialist systems produce crappier results.
Americans pay more for their healthcare while suffering worse outcomes than most other Western countries. You can’t credibly argue that the American healthcare system is good, personal ideology notwithstanding
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You know quite well I reside in Australia, where you do as the government commands or you will be destroyed. And sometimes even if you do.
The army recently 'relocated' a bunch of aborigines in the Northern Territory to a quarantine camp. Let me say it again. Soldiers took citizens to a camp. Most weren't ill. They tested negative but had been in contact with someone who was sick. What happens if they say no? Idk, but I'm guessing they sent the army instead of social workers for a reason.
I have been cured of whatever few illusions I retained about the omniscience or benevolence of government.
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You know quite well I reside in Australia, where you do as the government commands or you will be destroyed. And sometimes even if you do.
The army recently 'relocated' a bunch of aborigines in the Northern Territory to a quarantine camp. Let me say it again. Soldiers took citizens to a camp. Most weren't ill. They tested negative but had been in contact with someone who was sick. What happens if they say no? Idk, but I'm guessing they sent the army instead of social workers for a reason.
I have been cured of whatever few illusions I retained about the omniscience or benevolence of government.
I actually didn’t know that, sorry I’ll update my getbiggers.xlsx spreadsheet
I’m not claiming that government is beneficent or omniscient, but that healthcare shouldn’t be left up to private, for-profit industry
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Do people with quality medical insurance get better healthcare? Absolutely. And, unlike countries with single payer medical insurance (socialized medicine) those with insurance are often treated more expediently and have full elective medical needs coverage (non emergency).
You are on Medicare, a government funded single payer system. Do you feel that you receive less expedient care or an inability to receive elective care now, compared to when you had employer-provided private health insurance?
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Americans pay more for their healthcare while suffering worse outcomes than most other Western countries. You can’t credibly argue that the American healthcare system is good, personal ideology notwithstanding
I'm not. The American system enshrined insurance company profits into law under Obama. Think just maybe they're gonna price gouge a little? Again with the government intervention creating a shitshow.
Find a doctor. He's in business. Pay him. Receive service in exchange. How is that hard?
Whenever we say something is super special and important and can't be trusted to industry (heath care, education, social programs), it ends up crazy expensive and rotten in quality because it's run by flabby halfwits who keep getting funded whether they get shit done or not.
Go both systems, as I said. Pure free market vs pure gov run. In 10 years show me which one you prefer.
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I actually didn’t know that, sorry I’ll update my getbiggers.xlsx spreadsheet
I’m not claiming that government is beneficent or omniscient, but that healthcare shouldn’t be left up to private, for-profit industry
Not you bro. Prime. Pretty sure he knows I live here.
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Here in Ireland legislation is to be rushed through giving the "Department of Health" the power to remove people from their homes who are believed to be sources of contagion.
Look what is happening in Austria, once the general lockdown ends there mid December the "unclean" have to continue remaining in lockdown and as of next February it will become mandatory for one and all.
Look at the hundreds of footballers dropping dead. The car seat belt analogy really should be turned on its head.
With every booster the natural immunity gets more compromised. Spike proteins are causing the clots and heart attacks.
And soon money will be no more, the food will run out and we will be hooked up to a social credit system like in China. Its coming.
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Here in Ireland legislation is to be rushed through giving the "Department of Health" the power to remove people from their homes who are believed to be sources of contagion.
Look what is happening in Austria, once the general lockdown ends there mid December the "unclean" have to continue remaining in lockdown and as of next February it will become mandatory for one and all.
Look at the hundreds of footballers dropping dead. The car seat belt analogy really should be turned on its head.
With every booster the natural immunity gets more compromised. Spike proteins are causing the clots and heart attacks.
And soon money will be no more, the food will run out and we will be hooked up to a social credit system like in China. Its coming.
Exactly Right & Very well Stated
It's happening openly as you say in many countries right now & in Plain sight of all.
Yet the Brainwashed Sheep Like ( Howard, Prime, Oak, ETC ) are so far down the rabbit hole & Vaccinated
out of their minds, Taking in all the Propaganda Government WEF MSM tells them.
Believing its All About a Virus ::) FFS.
All powers of rational thought & seeing what is happening to people around the world goes Right over their heads, Unwilling / unable to acknowledge or recognize the similarities to what the Nazi's Did. FFS
Its Now Hidden in Plain Sight - WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB FUCKERS.
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Here in Ireland legislation is to be rushed through giving the "Department of Health" the power to remove people from their homes who are believed to be sources of contagion.
Look what is happening in Austria, once the general lockdown ends there mid December the "unclean" have to continue remaining in lockdown and as of next February it will become mandatory for one and all.
Look at the hundreds of footballers dropping dead. The car seat belt analogy really should be turned on its head.
With every booster the natural immunity gets more compromised. Spike proteins are causing the clots and heart attacks.
And soon money will be no more, the food will run out and we will be hooked up to a social credit system like in China. Its coming.
I agree. It's despotism. It's worldwide and we won't come back from it. Your children and grandchildren won't know the world which you knew. "Pappy, tell us about the Before Times when everyone was always sick and Enemies Of The People tried to trick us into dangerous freedom."
The Victorian legislature is trying to pass a bill which allows the state Premier to declare a state of emergency without the assent of the Health Officer. It can last indefinitely. Citizens, either individuals or defined groups, can be incarcerated without charge and for any duration. It's basically martial law in perpetuity.
People hang shit on the boomers for being poor stewards but I don't see anyone younger not complying. Very nearly everyone I know has had their shots because their employment was under threat. Nothing bad actually happened to them. Just the threat of it and they all capitulated immediately. None of them realize that their children are next. I don't mean for shots or pandemic lockdowns. I mean for a life of hardcore surveillance and control that their coward parents invited in because they were fearful of the possibility of financial discomfort, lol.
Yeah, I'd guess it's more than not letting a good crisis go to waste. This seems orchestrated, but maybe it's not. I'm still into vaccines vs covid but I'm not sure it's even the discussion to hold anymore.
The US appears to be a sole beacon.
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Think about like this:
You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.
Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.
Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.
The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.
The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)
No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT, getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.
Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?
Who is this known unvaccinated person in India & S Africa you speak of Name Them & Proof Please ??
And if you can't............
Fuck Off, Just Fuck Right off with your Vaccine Propaganda Crap.
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I believe the turning point is the Cybertron mutation. The Powers aka Pharmacy Agents say it is the deadliest variant yet while the world says it's the flu bug. Lastly, even imbeciles, know this isn't a South African virus.
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Anyone bothered to look into how they got data to develop the "vaccines" for china virus? From the chinese government itself, good luck with that crap in your system...
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Exactly Right & Very well Stated
It's happening openly as you say in many countries right now & in Plain sight of all.
Yet the Brainwashed Sheep Like ( Howard, Prime, Oak, ETC ) are so far down the rabbit hole & Vaccinated
out of their minds, Taking in all the Propaganda Government WEF MSM tells them.
Believing its All About a Virus ::) FFS.
All powers of rational thought & seeing what is happening to people around the world goes Right over their heads, Unwilling / unable to acknowledge or recognize the similarities to what the Nazi's Did. FFS
Its Now Hidden in Plain Sight - WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB FUCKERS.
Prime, OAK and other old farts have been brainwashed by the media for 40+ years. You can't help these people. The longer you are blinded by the MSM the harder it is to accept that you have been lied to and made a fool of. We are all in the same boat, vaxxed and unvaxxed.
An Austrian/(German?) doc that was analyzing the vaxx ingredients was arrested by the police during one of his live streams. I read somewhere he's dead now. NAZI times are slowly kincking back in:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wQnLiO9Bc0Qc/
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Prime, OAK and other old farts have been brainwashed by the media for 40+ years. You can't help these people. The longer you are blinded by the MSM the harder it is to accept that you have been lied to and made a fool of. We are all in the same boat, vaxxed and unvaxxed.
An Austrian/(German?) doc that was analyzing the vaxx ingredients was arrested by the police during one of his live streams. I read somewhere he's dead now. NAZI times are slowly kincking back in:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wQnLiO9Bc0Qc/
Very true. It is amazing to see so many who trust the MSM and their "fact checkers" after they've been caught lying day after day and year after year.
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nobody in the media seem to grasp that viruses never mutate to become more deadly, nevermind more transmissible AND deadly.
It's the comical world of journalism and contemporary virology
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Americans pay more for their healthcare while suffering worse outcomes than most other Western countries. You can’t credibly argue that the American healthcare system is good, personal ideology notwithstanding
This isn't because of the medical care. This is because Americans are fat, lazy, and entitled.
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The usual anti-Libertarian Statist position is that we need the government to check the power of powerful corporations.
Obama mandated insurance companies get paid. Now every government is mandating you become a pharmaceutical consumer.
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Here in Portugal from December the 1st on, one needs to either have a vacine digital certificate or a 2 dollar negative test to enter a gym (among other places).
Go Apartheid go!!!
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So even though the products of Operation Warp Speed were met with Trump hate early on by Democrats, it's not surprising that initial, non-coerced vaccine uptake was Leftist once their guy started pushing it. Socialism is the belief that the government knows what's best, so it didn't take much messaging to get people to go along who already believed that their Biden government was competent and benevolent.
I also think this is why Russell Brand is hitting harder than Fox News. Yeah, he's got the advantage of not being an obvious propagandist for a political party, but Fox keep hacking on Biden's competence. No matter how obviously poor his performance is though, the Democrats get to retreat to their Fortress of Morality and basically retort "Well at least he's well intentioned and not an obnoxious dick like Trump." Which is a nonsequitor but effective because Trump actually is an obnoxious dick. But Brand is laying siege to that fortress. "You're not nice. Your a bunch of greedy phonies." They can't make claims to competence so it's checkmate.
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Get prepare to be locked down for several month. Omicron will spread more widely than Delta.
The Autralian government are crazy
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Here in Portugal from December the 1st on, one needs to either have a vacine digital certificate or a 2 dollar negative test to enter a gym (among other places).
Go Apartheid go!!!
they are discussing this shit here in Ireland too. I hope many gyms refuse to comply with it.
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Anyone bothered to look into how they got data to develop the "vaccines" for china virus? From the chinese government itself, good luck with that crap in your system...
Exactly right !!!! I have a clip from UK day time Tv of some Pharma Executive saying they downloaded the formula from China ::) & were producing it within 3hrs !!!!! FFS & the Sheep like are taking 7 promoting this Crap.
You couldn't make this story up if you tried.
Carry on Howard, oak, prime et al
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nobody in the media seem to grasp that viruses never mutate to become more deadly, nevermind more transmissible AND deadly.
It's the comical world of journalism and contemporary virology
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This x2
Wake up Scared & Brainwashed Sheep Like.
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I’m a sheep?
Other than “not getting the vaccine” name ONE independent thing you’ve ever done in your life?
I bet you can’t.
😎😎😎
The Jews are literally trying to exterminate you right in front of your very eyes, and you see it has a savior ::)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rdln8bAs2DyF/
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Who is this known unvaccinated person in India & S Africa you speak of Name Them & Proof Please ??
And if you can't............
Busted. It's from Uranus and transmitted on micro-bits of dingle-berries after you farted. ::)
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The Jews are literally trying to exterminate you right in front of your very eyes, and you see it has a savior ::)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rdln8bAs2DyF/
Hmm, I remember some crazy dude with a goofy lil' 'stache led a group that said similar stuff about Jews.
I don't think history looks fondly upon them.
Hope this helps
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Hmm, I remember some crazy dude with a goofy lil' 'stache led a group that said similar stuff about Jews.
I don't think history looks fondly upon them.
Hope this helps
Maybe because the history books you boomers were weaned off of were written by the Jews themselves ::)
Take a look.. just like your covid hysteria is just another Jewish hoax (and probably the last one albeit)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rdln8bAs2DyF/
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Busted. It's from Uranus and transmitted on micro-bits of dingle-berries after you farted. ::)
Oi SillyBollocks - Back up what you stated or retract it if you cant.
Then Pls Fuck Off
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Hmm, I remember some crazy dude with a goofy lil' 'stache led a group that said similar stuff about Jews.
I don't think history looks fondly upon them.
Hope this helps
Silly Bollocks - have you provided proof to back up your Statement ????
or is it just more Vaccine Propaganda Garbage from you.
OH & Fuck Off.
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Hmm, I remember some crazy dude with a goofy lil' 'stache led a group that said similar stuff about Jews.
I don't think history looks fondly upon them.
Hope this helps
I totally agree with Howard, the Germans were insane:
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:o
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to all of it... because this entire shit show is only possible with your compliance.
resist in numbers.. and it stops.
otherwise - our descent into hell will accelerate... as it should.
does humanity truly prefer evil deception leading to its own doom over any type of truth?
it sure looks that way.
100% to all of this
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Great post!
You've singlehandedly managed to demonstrate exactly why we NEED government mandated shutdowns and vaccine passports.
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So you’re a communist as well? Have no use for communists. They should all be eradicated
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So you’re a communist as well? Have no use for communists. They should all be eradicated
calm down Pinochet
;)
With Good Nutrition, ...Good Things Happen!
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calm down Pinochet
;)
With Good Nutrition, ...Good Things Happen!
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Nah
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Nah
You're a bitter man...
Have you ever fucked a black girl?
With Good Nutrition, ...Good Things Happen!
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You're a bitter man...
Have you ever fucked a black girl?
With Good Nutrition, ...Good Things Happen!
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Racist, and typically stupid, post reported.
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You are on Medicare, a government funded single payer system. Do you feel that you receive less expedient care or an inability to receive elective care now, compared to when you had employer-provided private health insurance?
I have Regence MedAdvantage Classic to be exact. It runs me an extra $47 a month. My previous employer self-funded medical insurance, matching the Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield plan. The change from one to the other was seamless for me. Like all insurance plans, it is tweaked every year. Lately these have increased the number of services they cover. For the most part, I have the same doctors I had when I was still working.
Doctors, hospitals and pharmacies enter into contracts with medical insurance providers. They've agreed to accept what they pay them for each service. Also, a doctor cannot charge the patient for the difference between what insurance covers combined with patient co-pays and what they charge non-covered patients. If they did, they'd risk voiding their contract. Currently, my co-pay for primary care is $10 per visit and it is $40 for specialists. Drug coverage has 6 tiers. My prescriptions run me on average $5 each per month. The ophthalmologist prescribed new eye drops for glaucoma. The copay was around $150 per month. I asked the doctor to prescribe something that was covered. A 90 day prescription for testosterone cypionate runs around $20. I think emergency room visits run around $100 which is waved if you're admitted to the hospital. The evidence of coverage booklet Regence sends out annually is a thick as a bible. LOL!
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Great point that will never be discussed by the MSM.
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I had COVID 46 years old I’ve had worst colds ain’t buying into this shit anymore b
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Keep your weight under control stay fit and heathy what the funk you worry about.
If I was in a rest home in poor health then I would take the precautions but I’m in not!
If I was over weight I lose some wouldn’t pin all my hopes on a jab!!
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I had COVID 46
:o :o :o
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You got downsyndrome?
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Which story will be the distraction..going all on at the same time
School shooting
Ghislane Maxwell Trial
SCOTUS hearing of the Mississippi Abortion case that could overturn Row v Wade
CNN/Cuomo
LeSnitch getting the Chinavirus
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Coach don't live in America, but here in the UK much the same pushing a different agenda every week.
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Coach don't live in America, but here in the UK much the same pushing a different agenda every week.
Same similar distractions?
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Difennetly coach don't think it's much worse living in North Korea.
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Which story will be the distraction..going all on at the same time
School shooting
Ghislane Maxwell Trial
SCOTUS hearing of the Mississippi Abortion case that could overturn Row v Wade
CNN/Cuomo
LeSnitch getting the Chinavirus
Yup all these court trials and bullshit just a distraction from how fucked up Biden made America.
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Which story will be the distraction..going all on at the same time
School shooting
Ghislane Maxwell Trial
SCOTUS hearing of the Mississippi Abortion case that could overturn Row v Wade
CNN/Cuomo
LeSnitch getting the Chinavirus
Adding to this list from today..Fraudci was just on TV scaring the shit out of “OAK”
https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/first-us-case-of-omicron-covid-variant-detected-in-california/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=com.duckduckgo.mobile.ios.OpenAction2
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Which story will be the distraction..going all on at the same time
School shooting
Ghislane Maxwell Trial
SCOTUS hearing of the Mississippi Abortion case that could overturn Row v Wade
CNN/Cuomo
LeSnitch getting the Chinavirus
'Janes' testimony yesterday in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial is very interesting. She named names of folks who flew with Epstein. Can you guess whose name was among those mentioned?
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"The most powerful weapon of the elite is the ignorance of the masses."
Currently the central banks are deliberately destroying to the global economy; they're using this "pandemic" as the catalyst; These people pulling the strings must be resisted ->
https://odysee.com/@jermwarfare:2/ernst-wolff:f4
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Good luck saying no to masks, tests, injections and other restrictions when the Omicron hits the states and other countries.
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Good luck saying no to masks, tests, injections and other restrictions when the Omicron hits the states and other countries.
Just Say No
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Fauci needs to die. Someone needs to whack that coward.
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Maybe because the history books you boomers were weaned off of were written by the Jews themselves ::)
Take a look.. just like your covid hysteria is just another Jewish hoax (and probably the last one albeit)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rdln8bAs2DyF/
Blame the Jews for a virus that originated in China. ::)
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100% to all of this
Say's a man who actually got covid .
Ok, seriously Coach, I'm sincerely glad you or your wife didn't get seriously ill.
BUT, you were fortunate and should promote vaccines and mitigation measures.
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Fauci needs to die. Someone needs to whack that coward.
Ok, so a doc that's devoted his life to curing humans from deadly, infectious diseases ...needs to DIE. WTF?
By that logic we need to release rapists and murderers from prison.
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Say's a man who actually got covid .
Ok, seriously Coach, I'm sincerely glad you or your wife didn't get seriously ill.
BUT, you were fortunate and should promote vaccines and mitigation measures.
Promote vaccines to those who are compromised, old, high risk.
Promote overall better health - diet, supplementation, exercise to all.
It's not a one size fits all solution, and shouldn't be treated as such. All known data should be on the table - efficacy, potential issues, natural immunity, etc.....but it's only talked about as vax, vax, vax.
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Blame the Jews for a virus that originated in China. ::)
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4924549,00.html (https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4924549,00.html)
"The Chinese talk about the third wave of Jewish immigrants with a lot of satisfaction, as it helped save the lives of Jews fleeing Nazi Germany. More than 30,000 Jews arrived in Shanghai from 1933 to 1941 after escaping from Europe. In fact, Shanghai alone took in more Jewish refugees than Canada, Australia, India, South Africa and New Zealand combined."
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Promote vaccines to those who are compromised, old, high risk.
Promote overall better health - diet, supplementation, exercise to all.
It's not a one size fits all solution, and shouldn't be treated as such. All known data should be on the table - efficacy, potential issues, natural immunity, etc.....but it's only talked about as vax, vax, vax.
THat's because vaccines is how we eradicate pandemic level diseases. ( Polio, small pox, measles , etc)
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Promote vaccines to those who are compromised, old, high risk.
Promote overall better health - diet, supplementation, exercise to all.
It's not a one size fits all solution, and shouldn't be treated as such. All known data should be on the table - efficacy, potential issues, natural immunity, etc.....but it's only talked about as vax, vax, vax.
"Eating healthy" and exercising a few times a week will not prevent you from getting COVID. Viruses don't work that way. Look at all of the professional athletes who got COVID. Were they not healthy enough?
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Promote vaccines to those who are compromised, old, high risk.
Promote overall better health - diet, supplementation, exercise to all.
It's not a one size fits all solution, and shouldn't be treated as such. All known data should be on the table - efficacy, potential issues, natural immunity, etc.....but it's only talked about as vax, vax, vax.
Also, it's not enough to only give vaccines those that are high risk. We need to think bigger than that, we must stop the spread of the virus.
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Thats the thing...the drug doesnt stop the spread of the virus numbnuts
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THat's because vaccines is how we eradicate pandemic level diseases. ( Polio, small pox, measles , etc)
These vaccines don't work like those.
In fact, Miriam Webster had to change their definition of a vaccine so that this one fit the term.
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THat's because vaccines is how we eradicate pandemic level diseases. ( Polio, small pox, measles , etc)
Completely different diseases. Why do people keep repeating this bullshit.
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Thats the thing...the drug doesnt stop the spread of the virus numbnuts
Wow.
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These vaccines don't work like those.
In fact, Miriam Webster had to change their definition of a vaccine so that this one fit the term.
This is commonly seen on Facebook but has been proven to be false.
Also, why would they do this? Is Miriam Webster owned by Big Pharma?
🙄🙄🙄
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Maybe because the history books you boomers were weaned off of were written by the Jews themselves ::)
Take a look.. just like your covid hysteria is just another Jewish hoax (and probably the last one albeit)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rdln8bAs2DyF/
howard is jewish
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Blame the Jews for a virus that originated in China. ::)
the left blamed trump...
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"Eating healthy" and exercising a few times a week will not prevent you from getting COVID. Viruses don't work that way. Look at all of the professional athletes who got COVID. Were they not healthy enough?
name the athletes that died or even had worse symptoms than the flu
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name the athletes that died or even had worse symptoms than the flu
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they dont exist. the only athletes dropping dead are the ones who got the experimental drug
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Say's a man who actually got covid .
Ok, seriously Coach, I'm sincerely glad you or your wife didn't get seriously ill.
BUT, you were fortunate and should promote vaccines and mitigation measures.
And lived and we were seriously Ill. Getting the Chinavirus reinforces my belief that the “vaccine” isn’t necessary. It’s not to be trusted. There’s little to no science behind it. Today we take 200mg of Hydroxycholroquin once a week.
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name the athletes that died or even had worse symptoms than the flu
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It's not about one athlete dying ....it's about how many the virus is spread to who ultimately die or overwhelm the medical system.
Why is that SO hard to understand?
::) ::) ::)
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And lived and we were seriously Ill. Getting the Chinavirus reinforces my belief that the “vaccine” isn’t necessary. It’s not to be trusted. There’s little to no science behind it. Today we take 200mg of Hydroxycholroquin once a week.
Congratulations.....you now have the Chinavirus (your words not mine) in your body for the rest of your life. In about 10 or 15 you'll know if there's any long term side effects.
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Congratulations.....you now have the Chinavirus (your words not mine) in your body for the rest of your life. In about 10 or 15 you'll know if there's any long term side effects.
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Translation….my natural immunity is 10x what your fake immunity is. Now head back to under your moms bed where you’re safe. Hope this helps
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/court-orders-fda-comply-foia-release-information-pfizer-eua-first-batch-documents-shows-1200-vaccine-deaths-within-first-90-days/
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Ok, so a doc that's devoted his life to curing humans from deadly, infectious diseases ...needs to DIE. WTF?
By that logic we need to release rapists and murderers from prison.
This is what you want to believe because you couldn't cope with the idea that people like Fauci don't give a shi1t about people like us.
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It's not about one athlete dying ....it's about how many the virus is spread to who ultimately die or overwhelm the medical system.
Why is that SO hard to understand?
::) ::) ::)
why is it so hard to understand the vast majority of the dead were already older than normal life expectancy? you want to destroy daily life to protect old farts that are already on death's doorsteps ::)
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THat's because vaccines is how we eradicate pandemic level diseases. ( Polio, small pox, measles , etc)
Correct. This doesn't do that. So, by definition, is not a vaccine.
Your fingers are deep in your ears. No amount of data showing spread in high uptake, boosted countries will convince you. Even statements by the CEO of Moderna won't change your mind. You're parroting the untrue promises that were made to you as if you're quoting scripture.
You proselytize to the unbelievers, will tolerate no criticism of the Sacred Syringe whatsoever, and believe that those who will not be converted will be destroyed by viral retribution or by the righteous hand of government.
The prophesies didn't come true. It's not a way out of the pandemic like we were promised. It's not going to eradicate covid. It's time to stop doubling down on January's prognostications, set down the koolaid, and live in today's reality.
There's no easy way to break this to you.
Howard. You're in a cult.
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why is it so hard to understand the vast majority of the dead were already older than normal life expectancy? you want to destroy daily life to protect old farts that are already on death's doorsteps ::)
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Lovely post. Your parents must be proud.
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"Eating healthy" and exercising a few times a week will not prevent you from getting COVID. Viruses don't work that way. Look at all of the professional athletes who got COVID. Were they not healthy enough?
They were jabbed
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They were jabbed
If they weren’t vaccinated odds are their careers would be over.
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Lovely post. Your parents must be proud.
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i'm sure your parents are proud of you being a coward
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i'm sure your parents are proud of you being a coward
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You’re the one who’s scared of a needle.
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You’re the one who’s scared of a needle.
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if it has heroin or any other unknown drug in it, yes
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if it has heroin or any other unknown drug in it, yes
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Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.
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If they weren’t vaccinated odds are their careers would be over.
And like everything else, it would have ZERO to do with "science"
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Correct. This doesn't do that. So, by definition, is not a vaccine.
Your fingers are deep in your ears. No amount of data showing spread in high uptake, boosted countries will convince you. Even statements by the CEO of Moderna won't change your mind. You're parroting the untrue promises that were made to you as if you're quoting scripture.
You proselytize to the unbelievers, will tolerate no criticism of the Sacred Syringe whatsoever, and believe that those who will not be converted will be destroyed by viral retribution or by the righteous hand of government.
The prophesies didn't come true. It's not a way out of the pandemic like we were promised. It's not going to eradicate covid. It's time to stop doubling down on January's prognostications, set down the koolaid, and live in today's reality.
There's no easy way to break this to you.
Howard. You're in a cult.
Just call him a cvunt, less words and gets your point across faster.
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Just call him a cvunt, less words and gets your point across faster.
I'm blabby. :-\ I blab. Boundless blabbery blabbing.
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Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.
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you are the one that surrendered your freedom
you have already gotten the jab 3 times right? you will get more and more because that is what your master tells you to do
your masters are not following their own rules for masks or social distancing, that doesn't make you think you are being lied to?
i imagine you still wear your mask everywhere willingly restricting your own breathing despite the fact the dog killer fauci said in his emails masks don't help and admitted he wears a mask because it's part of his image
if we all lose our freedom it will because submissive weaklings like you willingly gave it up, beta male
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if we all lose our freedom it will because submissive weaklings like you willingly gave it up
yes - they r compliantly crushing freedom.. one shot at a time.
Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.
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the problem with your shortsighted, subservient compliance is that it facilitates the growth of a very dark, cancerous tyranny - from which there is no return - for anyone.
attempting to serve your own interests in this way will result in the loss of everything.
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https://www.naturalnews.com/files/536-postmarketing-experience.pdf
The document reveals that within just 90 days after the EUA release of Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine, the company was already aware of voluntary adverse reaction reports that revealed 1,223 deaths and over 42,000 adverse reports describing a total of 158,893 adverse reactions. The reports originated from numerous countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain and other nations.
Aside from “general disorders,” the No. 1 most frequently reported category of mRNA vaccine adverse reactions was Nervous system disorders, clocking in at 25,957 reports.
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Say's a man who actually got covid .
Ok, seriously Coach, I'm sincerely glad you or your wife didn't get seriously ill.
BUT, you were fortunate and should promote vaccines and mitigation measures.
seriously - you back again!!! FFS You post up False Propaganda statements about the china virus & the unvaccinated and cant Back up your Bollocks ... FUCK OFF
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https://www.naturalnews.com/files/536-postmarketing-experience.pdf
The document reveals that within just 90 days after the EUA release of Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine, the company was already aware of voluntary adverse reaction reports that revealed 1,223 deaths and over 42,000 adverse reports describing a total of 158,893 adverse reactions. The reports originated from numerous countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain and other nations.
Aside from “general disorders,” the No. 1 most frequently reported category of mRNA vaccine adverse reactions was Nervous system disorders, clocking in at 25,957 reports.
The MSM never mentions any of this. If you bring up adverse reactions you are a "conspiracy theorist." ::)
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you are the one that surrendered your freedom
you have already gotten the jab 3 times right? you will get more and more because that is what your master tells you to do
your masters are not following their own rules for masks or social distancing, that doesn't make you think you are being lied to?
i imagine you still wear your mask everywhere willingly restricting your own breathing despite the fact the dog killer fauci said in his emails masks don't help and admitted he wears a mask because it's part of his image
if we all lose our freedom it will because submissive weaklings like you willingly gave it up, beta male
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Exactly Right well Stated .
He's a Pathetic Frightened Specimen. ::)
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Got the third shot yesterday. I feel like crap today. No working out today.
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you are the one that surrendered your freedom
you have already gotten the jab 3 times right? you will get more and more because that is what your master tells you to do
your masters are not following their own rules for masks or social distancing, that doesn't make you think you are being lied to?
i imagine you still wear your mask everywhere willingly restricting your own breathing despite the fact the dog killer fauci said in his emails masks don't help and admitted he wears a mask because it's part of his image
if we all lose our freedom it will because submissive weaklings like you willingly gave it up, beta male
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Question:
If requiring people to wear masks in public is a loss of their freedom isn't requiring people to wear clothes in public a loss of their freedom too?
How come antivaxxers aren't protesting pants or underwear mandates too?
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Antivaxxers are SO dumb.
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Got the third shot yesterday. I feel like crap today. No working out today.
I got my 3rd shot of Testosterone 2 days ago, I feel Great worked out legs Very hard Today ;D ;) ;D
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Question:
If requiring people to wear masks in public is a loss of their freedom isn't requiring people to wear clothes in public a loss of their freedom too?
How come antivaxxers aren't protesting pants or underwear mandates too?
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Antivaxxers are SO dumb.
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They don't hinder your breathing - Moron ::)
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They don't hinder your breathing - Moron ::)
They only hinder your breathing if you're severely out of shape. You need to take testosterone in order to complete your workouts you say?
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They only hinder your breathing if you're severely out of shape. You need to take testosterone in order to complete your workouts you say?
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I think we should start the "Shot of the Month" club...Then we would be prepared for every variant that comes down the pike. Don't you think so?
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They don't hinder your breathing - Moron ::)
You can’t breath with a mask on? Are you a baby?
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I think we should start the "Shot of the Month" club...Then we would be prepared for every variant that comes down the pike. Don't you think so?
If antivaxxers continue to refuse the shot…we’ll have to.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
Your odds of death from Covid in the state with the highest death rate is literally 0.346%
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
Your odds of death from Covid in the state with the highest death rate is literally 0.346%
This isn't correct.
You're mixing up death rate with case fatality rate (CFR) which is approximately 2%.
The odds of death from COVID are 1 in 50.
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They don't hinder your breathing - Moron ::)
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Whatever you say Karen.
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This isn't correct.
You're mixing up death rate with case fatality rate (CFR) which is approximately 2%.
The odds of death from COVID are 1 in 50.
Serious question what’s the difference?
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noun: fatality; plural noun: fatalities
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an occurrence of death by accident, in war, or from disease.
"shooting was heard and there were fatalities"
Also Could you please post your source? I haven’t seen a 2% death rate anywhere
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Serious question what’s the difference?
fa·tal·i·ty
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noun
noun: fatality; plural noun: fatalities
1.
an occurrence of death by accident, in war, or from disease.
"shooting was heard and there were fatalities"
Also Could you please post your source? I haven’t seen a 2% death rate anywhere
This explains everything:
https://newslit.org/updates/case-fatality-rate-vs-mortality-rate/ (https://newslit.org/updates/case-fatality-rate-vs-mortality-rate/)
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I caught up on reading this thread. What a waste of time. Getbigger's are so predictable and laughable at the same time.
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Serious question what’s the difference?
fa·tal·i·ty
/fāˈtalədē,fəˈtalədē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fatality; plural noun: fatalities
1.
an occurrence of death by accident, in war, or from disease.
"shooting was heard and there were fatalities"
Also Could you please post your source? I haven’t seen a 2% death rate anywhere
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I caught up on reading this thread. What a waste of time. Getbigger's are so predictable and laughable at the same time.
Hahaha...so true.
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What's disturbing is all the people catching covid with 2 or 3 shots. Is this shot working? 80% of adults have the shots and we still have panic and mask wearing. Will the panic and masks end with 85%, 90% or do we need 100% for this nonsense to end. The age group that has the highest survival rate is ages 5 to 17. Why are they wearing masks in schools if all the teachers have to have the shot? I just got the third shot yesterday and I'm not feeling great today. I know it will pass. If I get covid I'm going to be pissed.
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What's disturbing is all the people catching covid with 2 or 3 shots. Is this shot working? 80% of adults have the shots and we still have panic and mask wearing. Will the panic and masks end with 85%, 90% or do we need 100% for this nonsense to end. The age group that has the highest survival rate is ages 5 to 17. Why are they wearing masks in schools if all the teachers have to have the shot? I just got the third shot yesterday and I'm not feeling great today. I know it will pass. If I get covid I'm going to be pissed.
It's the right move for older people and other at risk folks like the obese and immune compromised, imo.
Speculating here but boost Pfizer at 4-5 months. UK data shows a strong spike in deaths at month 7 but a ramping up beginning in month 5. J&J, my impression is 3. It has the worst durability. Moderna idk. Guessing 6 month boost. Individual response is variable so I guess you could test for antibody levels.
They're disappointing products overall but are of benefit to some people. If I were north of 70 I'd probably take it.
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What's disturbing is all the people catching covid with 2 or 3 shots. Is this shot working? I just got the third shot yesterday and I'm not feeling great today.
It's the right move for older people and other at risk folks like the obese and immune compromised, imo.
If I were north of 70 I'd probably take it.
nothing good comes from injecting a synthetic gene therapy bio weapon.
nothing at all - not at any age.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
u two r blithering idiots (or worse), and a lost cause.
there is a lot of truthful information posted on this forum by which a discerning individual may become well informed about the reality of these injections.
Just Say No.... or get got.
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nothing good comes from injecting a synthetic gene therapy bio weapon.
nothing at all - not at any age.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
u two r blithering idiots (or worse), and a lost cause.
there is a lot of truthful information posted on this forum by which a discerning individual may become well informed about the reality of these injections.
Just Say No.... or get got.
Bah. You're the same knucklehead you were before. All assertions, no facts. It's a good choice for the elderly. Way less of them died. Look it up.
Not taking it myself since imo it's risks outweigh its benefits for a 48yo in good shape.
Now both sides hate me, lol. Bring the pain!
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say no to the masks.
say no to the tests.
say no to the injections.
say no to the brainwashed cowards.
say no to going to the hospital if you get covid. ;)
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They only hinder your breathing if you're severely out of shape. You need to take testosterone in order to complete your workouts you say?
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Simple Moron - Come Knock on my door & Find out how out of shape I am.
Enough of the Stupid bollocks on here Put your money where your mouth is.
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Simple Moron - Come Knock on my door & Find out how out of shape I am.
Enough of the Stupid bollocks on here Put your money where your mouth is.
Ok. Post your address.
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Ok. Post your address.
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Post yours Billy Big Bollocks with proof
LIKE THE FUCK YOU WILL - RETARD
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Post yours Billy Big Bollocks with proof
LIKE THE FUCK YOU WILL - RETARD
Why? You told me to come to your house?
You’re not very bright are you?
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Question:
If requiring people to wear masks in public is a loss of their freedom isn't requiring people to wear clothes in public a loss of their freedom too?
How come antivaxxers aren't protesting pants or underwear mandates too?
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Antivaxxers are SO dumb.
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most people look better with their clothes on, not to mention clothes provide warmth
if you are saying you like wearing a mask, you must be very ugly
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This show will never end. But some of us knew that already.
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What's disturbing is all the people catching covid with 2 or 3 shots. Is this shot working? 80% of adults have the shots and we still have panic and mask wearing. Will the panic and masks end with 85%, 90% or do we need 100% for this nonsense to end. The age group that has the highest survival rate is ages 5 to 17. Why are they wearing masks in schools if all the teachers have to have the shot? I just got the third shot yesterday and I'm not feeling great today. I know it will pass. If I get covid I'm going to be pissed.
This, it’s bs at this point
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I wonder when the ruling class and the tech oligarchs will allow us to talk about the observable reality that the vaccines don't work very well.
How many fucking shots do we all need to take before we develop immunity and stop this virus in it's tracks? 3, 4, 10?
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https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
Even using your site that tracks deaths from the beginning when Covid was more deadly and no vaccine was available which despite being “leaky” has kept the death rate way lower it puts the death rate at 1.3%. The death rate is even lower now if your track the last 6 months. What do you want to do wear masks and have restrictions forever? It’d been proven they don’t work and with the southern eastern states having lower case numbers than places like California you could make the argument they are counter productive that’s the “science” in a real world experiment. No pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years how long you willing to do this dance ? I’ve accepted the fact that you need to get vaccinated or catch Covid or both,and realistically most people will have both happen weather they know it or not. You have to realize going in public is a risk no matter how many masks u have on and if Covid is as contagious as they say you will not be able to avoid it so society mite as well get on with it. It’s been to long.
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I wonder when the ruling class and the tech oligarchs will allow us to talk about the observable reality that the vaccines don't work very well.
How many fucking shots do we all need to take before we develop immunity and stop this virus in it's tracks? 3, 4, 10?
Funny big pharma said we can tweak the vaccine for delta yet the boosters are here and people are lining up for the exact same shot no delta tweak. Now same is being said for the even WEAKER omnicron. Why would u line up again for the same shot? I could see maybe if u were at risk and they tweaked it but for the same shot? Are you expecting a different result? If they lasted 6 months the 1st time it’s prob a safe bet they will last 6 months the 2nd time. Yet banned from everything if you mention that even if your a md?
To answer your question they are gonna want your money at least once, prob twice a year for a shot u don’t need like the flu shot
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Even using your site that tracks deaths from the beginning when Covid was more deadly and no vaccine was available which despite being “leaky” has kept the death rate way lower it puts the death rate at 1.3%. The death rate is even lower now if your track the last 6 months. What do you want to do wear masks and have restrictions forever? It’d been proven they don’t work and with the southern eastern states having lower case numbers than places like California you could make the argument they are counter productive that’s the “science” in a real world experiment. No pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years how long you willing to do this dance ? I’ve accepted the fact that you need to get vaccinated or catch Covid or both,and realistically most people will have both happen weather they know it or not. You have to realize going in public is a risk no matter how many masks u have on and if Covid is as contagious as they say you will not be able to avoid it so society mite as well get on with it. It’s been to long.
Yep. Let 'er rip.
Or use terror and punishment to institute a technocratic oligarchy.
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They told you it would only take another 14 days to flatten the curve. Then they promised you the masks, social distancing and lockdowns would protect you. Then they said the vaccines would get us back to normal. Now they are promising you the boosters will protect you. They said there were almost no cases of flu due to the restrictions but now it's back even though the restrictions are still implemented and are stricter than ever before. Nothing what they told you has worked and you still believe and do everything they say? You are slowly but surely being programmed. Just like a woman who keeps coming back to her abusive boyfriend and defends him while her friends point out the obvious.
and the cherry on the cake for them is us turning against each other. And it works perfectly
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Hahaha.....too funny!
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The Technocratic Dictatorship has been emerging for a very long time now... I think "zog", or whatever stupid name one gives it, is in a kind of hurry to "seal the deal".
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Why? You told me to come to your house?
You’re not very bright are you?
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Post up Yours Moron
Then you can wait for my knock at your door.
As for being Bright I maybe as bright as a 100w bulb You're about as bright as a 5w bulb.
Carry on wearing your face nappies & gloves & visor & having your jabs.
FUCK OFF MORON
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Go ahead. Laugh it up.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to leave your house.
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neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha
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Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.
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Pretty soon you won’t be able to leave your house.
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children get lower doses and those under 12 will get even smaller doses when that gets the ok.
this is the true Howard.
he gleefully endorses the loss of freedom and poisoning of children.
the compliant r depraved.
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Question:
If requiring people to wear masks in public is a loss of their freedom isn't requiring people to wear clothes in public a loss of their freedom too?
How come antivaxxers aren't protesting pants or underwear mandates too?
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Antivaxxers are SO dumb.
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Which is why in liberal Portland or in Oregon, it is not illegal to be naked unless there is an intent to arouse. It is one of those catch 22 issues. This law is based on freedom of speech. It is was allows for "naked bike ride' and various other group naked events. Walk around beating off and it is off to jail. Clear as mud.
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I hear a lot of 'end justifies means' arguments in support of mandates. Is there anything we can't do or do we have an obligation to accept any distasteful policy if it saves lives over all?
Say people are slow to vaccinate their children. If it would save 100 lives each time by motivating parents to vaccinate their kids, should we have a nationally televised weekly program where a death squad turns up and cuts the lad top to bottom in half with a chainsaw? Would you do it if it saves lives? Don't you have to?
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I hear a lot of 'end justifies means' arguments in support of mandates. Is there anything we can't do or do we have an obligation to accept any distasteful policy if it saves lives over all?
Say people are slow to vaccinate their children. If it would save 100 lives each time by motivating parents to vaccinate their kids, should we have a nationally televised weekly program where a death squad turns up and cuts the lad top to bottom in half with a chainsaw? Would you do it if it saves lives? Don't you have to?
Cutting kids up with a chain saw seems just a tad bit excessive as compared to mask wearing and vaccinations.
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Cutting kids up with a chain saw seems just a tad bit excessive as compared to mask wearing and vaccinations.
Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.
How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?
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Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.
How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?
You are trying to set me up. I read the news too. Since this has happened, your question is surely rhetorical. Since when did what I do have any bearing on what should be done? In general, I opposed separating children from their parents in all but the most extreme situations. IMO not getting your kids vaccinated for COVID does not qualify as extreme. Not only that, there are a plethora of other ways resolve issues with unvaccinated kids...for example, don't allow them to attend school.
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Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.
How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?
Democrats believe in that whole "It takes a village" bullshit. I have no doubt that most of them would be on board. They already have the FBI investigating parents at school board meetings.
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I had no idea that's actually happened. I forsee it as a likely action of the Aus government tho. Honestly don't know what you mean about your personal circumstances. Not having a crack at you personally, Prime.
The point I'm trying to make is that utilitarian reckoning is absurd. It demands we chainsaw a kid in half on TV because doing it will save more lives, and if you don't chainsaw the kid then you're evil because you let 100 others die.
Justifying harm inflicted by benefits gained is nonsense reasoning, yet it's normalized at this point. So my question is where's the boundary or is there one at all?
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Democrats believe in that whole "It takes a village" bullshit. I have no doubt that most of them would be on board. They already have the FBI investigating parents at school board meetings.
It's time for them to be honest. Next campaign ad should be Hillary pulling out a pistol and pointing it at some working class guy. "I said... we're all in this together! Now get in the boxcar with the others!" [sips champagne] "YOU CALL THIS CHILLED!!"
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I had no idea that's actually happened. I forsee it as a likely action of the Aus government tho. Honestly don't know what you mean about your personal circumstances. Not having a crack at you personally, Prime.
The point I'm trying to make is that utilitarian reckoning is absurd. It demands we chainsaw a kid in half on TV because doing it will save more lives, and if you don't chainsaw the kid then you're evil because you let 100 others die.
Justifying harm inflicted by benefits gained is nonsense reasoning, yet it's normalized at this point. So my question is where's the boundary or is there one at all?
Higher level thinking post reported to moderators.
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We need smaller government and not larger as in socialism.
agree./ Convince your Republican party and I'm on board.
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agree./ Convince your Republican party and I'm on board.
Get the plunger. There's a huuuuuuuge turdle in the forums. Law Enfarcement Officer.
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Higher level thinking post reported to moderators.
Ha, thanks man.
While I'm geeking: There a great scene in Dr. Zhivago where the doctor's brother, who is a Bolshevik operative, explains, "We're just like you. We're performing an operation on the social body. We're cutting out injustice."
Zhivago, more interested in poetry and love than politics, replies, "Ah, but removing injustice from life is a deep operation. Someone has to keep the patient alive while you perform it. By living. Isn't that right?"
Brother's voice as narrator, "I thought then that it was wrong."
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neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha
Ha. ;D That he will,
Anyway he's pretty much paralyzed from the neck up as it is already.
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neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha
I think he's in his parents basement. The wOAK deserves to Covid up and crap out.
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Btw, in addition to the adverse reactions which my gf witnessed among geriatrics in her workplace who received AstraZeneca, and those she witnessed among fellow staff members who received Pfizer, as well as my mother's increase in tinnitus (vehemently denied by the doctor at the time, now listed as a possible side effect), all of which I've already bored the board with, I've since been told by a couple for whom I was doing painting work that their 22yo otherwise healthy daughter ended up in the hospital with severe chest pains in days following her Pfizer shot (unsure if first or second). Another prospective client advised me he's not bothered that I'm unvaccinated. He isn't either, on the advice of his daughter who works at a pharmacy and claims to have witnessed multiple adverse events, and is herself remaining unvaccinated for that reason, even though it'll cost her the job.
Fwiw. If it's worth nothing to you, not a problem. As for myself, I can't reconcile this frequency of severe events with claims that data shows bad reactions to be exceedingly rare. Absent explanations for the seeming disparity, I'm inclined to believe what I judge to be credible witness reports over data about which I can't make any judgment.
Obviously, I have no way of proving that I'm faithfully repeating what others have told me. So, again, it's just for what it's worth.
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Go ahead. Laugh it up.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to leave your house.
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Ha, ha, sure. There is no way people will obey that decree.
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The virus is +-5000 smaller than the holes in surgical face masks. thinking masks will stop the virus is the equivalent of throwing handfuls of marbles at building scaffolding thinking none will hit the building. That’s how effective masks are. In fact there's NO correlation between mask mandates and covid infections going down in some cases the opposite occurs. It's a "safety blanket" to help fearful people feel more secure and for governments and "Authorities" to be seen to be doing something. thats all.
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I had no idea that's actually happened. I forsee it as a likely action of the Aus government tho. Honestly don't know what you mean about your personal circumstances. Not having a crack at you personally, Prime.
The point I'm trying to make is that utilitarian reckoning is absurd. It demands we chainsaw a kid in half on TV because doing it will save more lives, and if you don't chainsaw the kid then you're evil because you let 100 others die.
Justifying harm inflicted by benefits gained is nonsense reasoning, yet it's normalized at this point. So my question is where's the boundary or is there one at all?
You might find this article interesting, note that it was pre-COVID 2016: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5308147/
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/3/16069204/vaccine-fines-measles-outbreaks-europe-australia
This one was reversed: https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/cook-county-judge-strips-mother-of-parental-rights-over-vaccination-status
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Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.
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Zero cases means zero freedoms. Prepare for your microchip and monthly injections for the rest of your life, because that is the end game here. And thanks to weak men like you, our children are going to get the bad end of this and will live in satanic slavery. You should be deported to China.
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I love this virus.
It kills lazy fat fucks and reveals cowards.
Go Covid go!
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I love this virus.
It kills lazy fat fucks and reveals cowards.
Go Covid go!
I like the fact that I can go to a restaurant, movie theatre or sporting event without having sit next to the UNVACCINATED.
Can you say "low class" and "low intelligence".
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The virus is +-5000 smaller than the holes in surgical face masks. thinking masks will stop the virus is the equivalent of throwing handfuls of marbles at building scaffolding thinking none will hit the building. That’s how effective masks are. In fact there's NO correlation between mask mandates and covid infections going down in some cases the opposite occurs. It's a "safety blanket" to help fearful people feel more secure and for governments and "Authorities" to be seen to be doing something. thats all.
Everything you posted here has been PROVEN to be false eons ago.
Come on antivaxxer, I thought you guys were EXPERTS on research?
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The virus is +-5000 smaller than the holes in surgical face masks. thinking masks will stop the virus is the equivalent of throwing handfuls of marbles at building scaffolding thinking none will hit the building. That’s how effective masks are. In fact there's NO correlation between mask mandates and covid infections going down in some cases the opposite occurs. It's a "safety blanket" to help fearful people feel more secure and for governments and "Authorities" to be seen to be doing something. thats all.
Bingo. Mask are laughable. Pure comedy.
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Bingo. Mask are laughable. Pure comedy.
True.
Only Not if you're a Scared Shit less Brain dead Sheep Like Moron - Then Everything MSM & "Expert" Government
Advisor's is 100% TRUTH as They Have Their Health as a Priority .
FFS just look at the Moronic posts they put up constantly. !!!
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but, but they said the jabs would end the plandemic ;D
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#%20
''High COVID-19 vaccination rates were expected to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in populations by reducing the number of possible sources for transmission and thereby to reduce the burden of COVID-19 disease. Recent data, however, indicate that the epidemiological relevance of COVID-19 vaccinated individuals is increasing.
- In the UK it was described that secondary attack rates among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% for vaccinated vs 23% for unvaccinated). 12 of 31 infections in fully vaccinated household contacts (39%) arose from fully vaccinated epidemiologically linked index cases. Peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type [[1]].
- In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”) is reported weekly since 21. July 2021 and was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older [[2]]. This proportion is increasing week by week and was 58.9% on 27. October 2021 (Figure 1) providing clear evidence of the increasing relevance of the fully vaccinated as a possible source of transmission.
- A similar situation was described for the UK. Between week 39 and 42, a total of 100.160 COVID-19 cases were reported among citizens of 60 years or older. 89.821 occurred among the fully vaccinated (89.7%), 3.395 among the unvaccinated (3.4%) [[3]]. One week before, the COVID-19 case rate per 100.000 was higher among the subgroup of the vaccinated compared to the subgroup of the unvaccinated in all age groups of 30 years or more.
- In Israel a nosocomial outbreak was reported involving 16 healthcare workers, 23 exposed patients and two family members. The source was a fully vaccinated COVID-19 patient. The vaccination rate was 96.2% among all exposed individuals (151 healthcare workers and 97 patients). Fourteen fully vaccinated patients became severely ill or died, the two unvaccinated patients developed mild disease [[4]].
- The US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies four of the top five counties with the highest percentage of fully vaccinated population (99.9–84.3%) as “high” transmission counties [[5]]. Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures.
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I like the fact that I can go to a restaurant, movie theatre or sporting event without having sit next to the UNVACCINATED.
Can you say "low class" and "low intelligence".
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Until you don't go in for your booster every 3 months then those rights will be revoked and you'll be no better than the deplorable "unvaccinated" you seem to despise so much. And after you reject say you're 5th or 6th booster, then what are you going to do??
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I like the fact that I can go to a restaurant, movie theatre or sporting event without having sit next to the UNVACCINATED.
Can you say "low class" and "low intelligence".
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Silly child. You must live in an assisted living environment. You are evidence that Nature does indeed abhor a moron. What a maroon.
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Until you don't go in for your booster every 3 months then those rights will be revoked and you'll be no better than the deplorable "unvaccinated" you seem to despise so much. And after you reject say you're 5th or 6th booster, then what are you going to do??
If everyone had listened to the experts (instead of what they read of Facebook) and gotten vaccinated when they were supposed to we wouldn’t need the booster.
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If everyone had listened to the experts (instead of what they read of Facebook) and gotten vaccinated when they were supposed to we wouldn’t need the booster.
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Enjoy your myocarditis, C unt!
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Enjoy your myocarditis, C unt!
I don’t have to worry about that….I’m fully vaxxed.
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If everyone had listened to the experts (instead of what they read of Facebook) and gotten vaccinated when they were supposed to we wouldn’t need the booster.
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This is false. This was going to happen weather people complied or not (which most did and we are still here)
The narrative you have been barfing out is absolutely revolting and just plain stupid. Dangerous ignorance at it's finest.
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This is false. This was going to happen weather people complied or not (which most did and we are still here)
The narrative you have been barfing out is absolutely revolting and just plain stupid. Dangerous ignorance at it's finest.
Of coarse it’s true! That’s the whole point of the vaccine.
Where do you get your information from? Facebook?
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Of coarse it’s true! That’s the whole point of the vaccine.
Where do you get your information from? Facebook?
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CNN, ABC, CBC.. only real news outlets not bought and paid for by big pharma HAHAHA
moron
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CNN, ABC, CBC.. only real news outlets not bought and paid for by big pharma HAHAHA
moron
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Can you say "low class" and "low intelligence".
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They're called liberals. ;)
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If everyone had listened to the experts (instead of what they read of Facebook) and gotten vaccinated when they were supposed to we wouldn’t need the booster.
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You could make the argument if no vaccine was introduced and no lock downs happened we’d be out of this now or in a month or 2 considering no pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years including the Spanish flu. Covid started at the end of 2019 and you went a whole year with no variants. Then the vaccine was introduced at the end of 2020 and with in months you have multiple variants. Was it because of the vaccine? Who knows but the timing is suspicious to stay the least. Also if your vaccinated and are worried about unvaccinated “ you didnt take a vaccine you took a 6 month antibody therapy”(in whispering voice :D)
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Which is why in liberal Portland or in Oregon, it is not illegal to be naked unless there is an intent to arouse. It is one of those catch 22 issues. This law is based on freedom of speech. It is was allows for "naked bike ride' and various other group naked events. Walk around beating off and it is off to jail. Clear as mud.
Go beat off in public pedo
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I like the fact that I can go to a restaurant, movie theatre or sporting event without having sit next to the UNVACCINATED.
Can you say "low class" and "low intelligence".
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I'm unvaccinated.
I travel all over the US.
Go anywhere i want.
I wish you sat next to me somewhere; i'd have my girlfriend punch you in the throat.
Phaggot gimmick.
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Of coarse it’s true! That’s the whole point of the vaccine.
Where do you get your information from? Facebook?
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There are plenty of MD's not paid by big pharma on Facebook ??? Like what the what?
Your QR code is only rolling out just in time for your mandated boosters to revoke the passes for those who fell for the 'take two jabs to return to normal' narrative and who plan on refusing the boosters.
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I'm unvaccinated.
I travel all over the US.
Go anywhere i want.
I wish you sat next to me somewhere; i'd have my girlfriend punch you in the throat.
Phaggot gimmick.
Well said - he's A Complete & Utter Khunt
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They're called liberals. ;)
Haha...this I can agree with.
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I'm unvaccinated.
I travel all over the US.
Go anywhere i want.
I wish you sat next to me somewhere; i'd have my girlfriend punch you in the throat.
Phaggot gimmick.
It's just a matter of time before the unvaccinated won't be able to leave their homes in the US.
I can't believe you're so trusting of the government.
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There are plenty of MD's not paid by big pharma on Facebook ??? Like what the what?
Your QR code is only rolling out just in time for your mandated boosters to revoke the passes for those who fell for the 'take two jabs to return to normal' narrative and who plan on refusing the boosters.
Wow. I can't believe you just admitted that get your info from Facebook.
You can't trust big Pharma, the media or any government.....but Facebook is ok?
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You could make the argument if no vaccine was introduced and no lock downs happened we’d be out of this now or in a month or 2 considering no pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years including the Spanish flu. Covid started at the end of 2019 and you went a whole year with no variants. Then the vaccine was introduced at the end of 2020 and with in months you have multiple variants. Was it because of the vaccine? Who knows but the timing is suspicious to stay the least. Also if your vaccinated and are worried about unvaccinated “ you didnt take a vaccine you took a 6 month antibody therapy”(in whispering voice :D)
Do you really believe the pandemic would be over if the vaccine was never introduced?
Interesting.
Can you post the FAKE link that backs this up please?
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Do you really believe the pandemic would be over if the vaccine was never introduced?
Interesting.
Can you post the FAKE link that backs this up please?
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It's not over now with your fake "vaccine". ::) ::) ::)
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Well said - he's A Complete & Utter Khunt
Hey. Remember last week when you invited me over to your house so I could see how muscular you were?
That was weird.
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It's not over now with your fake "vaccine". ::) ::) ::)
It would have been over...but the antivaxxers ruined it.
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I would have been over...but the antivaxxers ruined it.
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So did the thousands of "breakthrough" cases of the fake vaccines that don't work. ;)
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It's just a matter of time before the unvaccinated Jews won't be able to leave their homes camps in the US. Poland.
I can't believe you're so trusting of the government.
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So did the thousands of "breakthrough" cases of the fake vaccines that don't work. ;)
Over 3 billion people fully vaccinated and only a few "thousand" breakthrough cases.
That's interesting.
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Over 3 billion people fully vaccinated and only a few "thousand" breakthrough cases.
That's interesting.
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Lies. Impossible to be fully vaccinated since boosters are required every 60 days. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Lies. Impossible to be fully vaccinated since boosters are required every 60 days. ::) ::) ::) ::)
If you define "fully vaccinated" as 100% effective then yes.
But that's not realistic.
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Wow. I can't believe you just admitted that get your info from Facebook.
You can't trust big Pharma, the media or any government.....but Facebook is ok?
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Yes, there are MD's who use social media you revolting soy boy.
You should be uncerimonisly wedgied with dental floss and then deported for being so gullible and stupid.
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Yes, there are MD's who use social media you revolting soy boy.
You should be uncerimonisly wedgied with dental floss and then deported for being so gullible and stupid.
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Just say no...denial is such a powerful tactic. But, the river is very long, so anything might happen before you enter the Mediterranean sea with a full sail ahead to Monaco. Not many make it that far.
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If you define "fully vaccinated" as 100% effective then yes.
But that's not realistic.
What do you think the current shots effectiveness are rated at? 90%? 80% 60%? What percentage would you consider a failure? How much time between boosters would you consider a failure? 6 months? 3 months? 30 days?
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What do you think the current shots effectiveness are rated at? 90%? 80% 60%? What percentage would you consider a failure? How much time between boosters would you consider a failure? 6 months? 3 months? 30 days?
The new malaria vaccine is approximately 30% effective, that's considered a huge success. The COVID vaccine is more effective than that.
I'll admit I'm not an expert on vaccines (most antivaxxers are not either) I'll I let the experts determine whether or not the vaccine is a "success" or "failure".
I do know that 99% of Medical Doctors in Canada are fully vaccinated.
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I'm not an expert on vaccines
what u r... is the perfect little compliant piece of shit.
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The new malaria vaccine is approximately 30% effective, that's considered a huge success. The COVID vaccine is more effective than that.
I'll admit I'm not an expert on vaccines (most antivaxxers are not either) I'll I let the experts determine whether or not the vaccine is a "success" or "failure".
I do know that 99% of Medical Doctors in Canada are fully vaccinated.
When the medical experts aren't allowed to disagree and have open debate with the narrative pushed by the big pharma and the government, I think I'll take a step back and watch what happens. Science is supposed to be about proving goals and part of that proof comes from being questioned, if you're not allowed to question the narrative, there is no science.
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When the medical experts aren't allowed to disagree and have open debate with the narrative pushed by the big pharma and the government, I think I'll take a step back and watch what happens. Science is supposed to be about proving goals and part of that proof comes from being questioned, if you're not allowed to question the narrative, there is no science.
There’s literally millions of Doctors and medical experts in North America alone. Are you suggesting that the government and big pharma has been able to silence all of them?
Doesn’t that seem a bit far fetched?
Also “taking a step back” and not getting vaccinated is how the virus spreads and mutates.
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Just say no...denial is such a powerful tactic. But, the river is very long, so anything might happen before you enter the Mediterranean sea with a full sail ahead to Monaco. Not many make it that far.
I guess Shizzoak wasn't the only one drinking on a Saturday night.
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There’s literally millions of Doctors and medical experts in North America alone. Are you suggesting that the government and big pharma has been able to silence all of them?
Doesn’t that seem a bit far fetched?
Also “taking a step back” and not getting vaccinated is how the virus spreads and mutates.
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There are not "millions" of Drs in N America, stop lying. Yes big pharma, the government and social media has silenced a huge portion of Drs that disagree with forcing people to take this experimental drug.
This virus has been forced to mutate due to the inefficient and ineffective drugs you support. :-*
How many booster shots have you had?
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Just say no...denial is such a powerful tactic. But, the river is very long, so anything might happen before you enter the Mediterranean sea with a full sail ahead to Monaco. Not many make it that far.
Man- your arrogance is legend, lol. What is your background again?
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There are not "millions" of Drs in N America, stop lying. Yes big pharma, the government and social media has silenced a huge portion of Drs that disagree with forcing people to take this experimental drug.
This virus has been forced to mutate due to the inefficient and ineffective drugs you support. :-*
How many booster shots have you had?
Of course there are millions of Medical Doctors and medical experts in North America. Let alone the entire world. That's common knowledge.
How could big pharma silence nearly all of them? Do the math, there isn't enough money in the world to do that? Unless they paid them each $5 or $10 ::)
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The new malaria vaccine is approximately 30% effective, that's considered a huge success. The COVID vaccine is more effective than that.
I'll admit I'm not an expert on vaccines (most antivaxxers are not either) I'll I let the experts determine whether or not the vaccine is a "success" or "failure".
I do know that 99% of Medical Doctors in Canada are fully vaccinated.
You get all of your information from the CBC though which is 100% misinformation ???
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You get all of your information from the CBC though which is 100% misinformation ???
Ok, I’m all ears. Where should I go to get the most accurate medical information?
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Ok, I’m all ears. Where should I go to get the most accurate medical information?
A variety of sources, then use reason and logic and come up with your own conclusions..
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A variety of sources, then use reason and logic and come up with your own conclusions..
Ummm….that’s not an answer. 🙄
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Ummm….that’s not an answer. 🙄
You talk to your hand, don't you? Look, if we killed everyone in the world that despised you it wouldn't be "murder".
It would be an apocalypse.
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What do you think the current shots effectiveness are rated at? 90%? 80% 60%? What percentage would you consider a failure? How much time between boosters would you consider a failure? 6 months? 3 months? 30 days?
Initially – Moderna has a 95% efficacy which gradually reduces to 90% over 6 months. It claims to be effective against Beta, Delta, Eta, and Kappa variants.
Pfizer – starts out at 90% dropping to 77%. With two doses it is about 84% effective overall against COVID mutations
Johnson and Johnson single shot is 72% effective with a booster it is 94% effective
There are a few other brands available outside the U.S. that I haven't assessed here.
Time between boosters no doubt varies from one brand to another. Failure is subjective. IMO less than 6 months is unacceptable, preferably a booster would last a year. One problem is that the vaccines work better against some variants than others and how well they will work with future variants/mutations is unknowable.
What isn't effective is no vaccine because one cannot know if they have natural immunity until they are exposed to COVID. Some will not have any symptoms and others may get sick and possibly die, which makes this a hell of a crap shoot.
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Initially – Moderna has a 95% efficacy which gradually reduces to 90% over 6 months. It claims to be effective against Beta, Delta, Eta, and Kappa variants.
Pfizer – starts out at 90% dropping to 77%. With two doses it is about 84% effective overall against COVID mutations
Johnson and Johnson single shot is 72% effective with a booster it is 94% effective
There are a few other brands available outside the U.S. that I haven't assessed here.
Time between boosters no doubt varies from one brand to another. Failure is subjective. IMO less than 6 months is unacceptable, preferably a booster would last a year. One problem is that the vaccines work better against some variants than others and how well they will work with future variants/mutations is unknowable.
What isn't effective is no vaccine because one cannot know if they have natural immunity until they are exposed to COVID. Some will not have any symptoms and others may get sick and possibly die, which makes this a hell of a crap shoot.
ON British day time TV - Woman from one of the Big Pharma Companies
Openly States
" We downloaded the Vaccine formula from CHINA & were Manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
FFS China !!! manufacturing it in 3hrs - where was any Testing ?? Where did the Virus come from - China
And you're willingly & unquestioningly Having that injected into You. ::)
Glad you & many others are so Trusting with your Health to China.
She didn't say from where in China they downloaded the formula -
I wouldn't Be Remotely Surprised if it was The Very Same Wuhan Virology Lab the Virus Came From.
Good Luck.
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ON British day time TV - Woman from one of the Big Pharma Companies
Openly States
" We downloaded the Vaccine formula from CHINA & were Manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
FFS China !!! manufacturing it in 3hrs - where was any Testing ?? Where did the Virus come from - China
And you're willingly & unquestioningly Having that injected into You. ::)
Glad you & many others are so Trusting with your Health to China.
She didn't say from where in China they downloaded the formula -
I wouldn't Be Remotely Surprised if it was The Very Same Wuhan Virology Lab the Virus Came From.
Good Luck.
the boxes of lateral flow tests are made in China
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ON British day time TV - Woman from one of the Big Pharma Companies
Openly States
" We downloaded the Vaccine formula from CHINA & were Manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
FFS China !!! manufacturing it in 3hrs - where was any Testing ?? Where did the Virus come from - China
And you're willingly & unquestioningly Having that injected into You. ::)
Glad you & many others are so Trusting with your Health to China.
She didn't say from where in China they downloaded the formula -
I wouldn't Be Remotely Surprised if it was The Very Same Wuhan Virology Lab the Virus Came From.
Good Luck.
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Of course there are millions of Medical Doctors and medical experts in North America. Let alone the entire world. That's common knowledge.
How could big pharma silence nearly all of them? Do the math, there isn't enough money in the world to do that? Unless they paid them each $5 or $10 ::)
You're wrong. :-*
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ON British day time TV - Woman from one of the Big Pharma Companies
Openly States
" We downloaded the Vaccine formula from CHINA & were Manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
FFS China !!! manufacturing it in 3hrs - where was any Testing ?? Where did the Virus come from - China
And you're willingly & unquestioningly Having that injected into You. ::)
Glad you & many others are so Trusting with your Health to China.
She didn't say from where in China they downloaded the formula -
I wouldn't Be Remotely Surprised if it was The Very Same Wuhan Virology Lab the Virus Came From.
Good Luck.
And you trust a nameless woman from an unknown big pharma who got herself on daytime TV claiming, "We downloaded the vaccine formula from China & were manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
Maybe you could link me to a video of her making this wildly insane claim so I can judge for myself how honest she appears. These are the three vaccines available in Great Britain; Moderna vaccine, Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Any idea which of these companies she worked for? What was her position there?
The AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is not yet approved in the United States because the one large-scale trial of the vaccine conducted so far used outdated data. The FDA found that in initial trials, some participants mistakenly got half doses of the vaccine. It also found that the trial did not include enough people over 55 years old.
The Moderna and Pfizer COVID vaccines are easier/quicker to manufacture, but shipment and storage requirements limit it's availability in many parts of the world.
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Keep feeding the trolls. ::)
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Initially – Moderna has a 95% efficacy which gradually reduces to 90% over 6 months. It claims to be effective against Beta, Delta, Eta, and Kappa variants.
Pfizer – starts out at 90% dropping to 77%. With two doses it is about 84% effective overall against COVID mutations
Johnson and Johnson single shot is 72% effective with a booster it is 94% effective
There are a few other brands available outside the U.S. that I haven't assessed here.
Time between boosters no doubt varies from one brand to another. Failure is subjective. IMO less than 6 months is unacceptable, preferably a booster would last a year. One problem is that the vaccines work better against some variants than others and how well they will work with future variants/mutations is unknowable.
What isn't effective is no vaccine because one cannot know if they have natural immunity until they are exposed to COVID. Some will not have any symptoms and others may get sick and possibly die, which makes this a hell of a crap shoot.
Who provided those percentages, the vaxxx companies? Why would you need a booster every 3-6 months if they were so effective?
It's a cult if you can't put 2 and 2 together. Those numbers are nowhere near reality.
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You're wrong. :-*
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Who provided those percentages, the vaxxx companies? Why would you need a booster every 3-6 months if they were so effective?
It's a cult if you can't put 2 and 2 together. Those numbers are nowhere near reality.
Really? You’re asking questions that we’ve known the answers to for months. Come on antivaxxer where are your research skills.
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And you trust a nameless woman from an unknown big pharma who got herself on daytime TV claiming, "We downloaded the vaccine formula from China & were manufacturing it within 3 hrs" :o
Maybe you could link me to a video of her making this wildly insane claim so I can judge for myself how honest she appears. These are the three vaccines available in Great Britain; Moderna vaccine, Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Any idea which of these companies she worked for? What was her position there?
The AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is not yet approved in the United States because the one large-scale trial of the vaccine conducted so far used outdated data. The FDA found that in initial trials, some participants mistakenly got half doses of the vaccine. It also found that the trial did not include enough people over 55 years old.
The Moderna and Pfizer COVID vaccines are easier/quicker to manufacture, but shipment and storage requirements limit it's availability in many parts of the world.
Hold up a minute - she wasn't Just Some Woman from A Name less Pharmaceutical company
I have the video clip on one of my phones - when or if i can be bothered to find it no doubt it'll give
her name & what company.
Yet you Trust & Believe all the lies around the China Virus .
why as a supposedly intelligent & reasoned person would you take a Vaccine that hasn,t had any prior animal testing or clinical trials - You & those taking it are the clinical trials. !!! FFS
And developed in such a short time frame.
Yes The Pharmaceutical companies are that sure of their product That they Have a No Liability Clause.
That must instil great confidence in you.
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Initially – Moderna has a 95% efficacy which gradually reduces to 90% over 6 months. It claims to be effective against Beta, Delta, Eta, and Kappa variants.
Pfizer – starts out at 90% dropping to 77%. With two doses it is about 84% effective overall against COVID mutations
Johnson and Johnson single shot is 72% effective with a booster it is 94% effective
There are a few other brands available outside the U.S. that I haven't assessed here.
Time between boosters no doubt varies from one brand to another. Failure is subjective. IMO less than 6 months is unacceptable, preferably a booster would last a year. One problem is that the vaccines work better against some variants than others and how well they will work with future variants/mutations is unknowable.
What isn't effective is no vaccine because one cannot know if they have natural immunity until they are exposed to COVID. Some will not have any symptoms and others may get sick and possibly die, which makes this a hell of a crap shoot.
Silly boomer. You're under media mind control...
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why as a supposedly intelligent & reasoned person would you take a Vaccine that hasn,t had any prior animal testing or clinical trials - You & those taking it are the clinical trials. !!! FFS
Colleen Huber, NMD
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure. There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
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Really? You’re asking questions that we’ve known the answers to for months. Come on antivaxxer where are your research skills.
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Old news. Covered somewhere around page 80-90 as a guess.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=660828.3025
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Really? You’re asking questions that we’ve known the answers to for months. Come on antivaxxer where are your research skills.
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"Antivaxxer" lol. So do you call someone that doesn't want to get raped an 'anti raper'
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"Antivaxxer" lol. So do you call someone that doesn't want to get raped an 'anti raper'
OMG! Are you comparing a small needle to getting raped? Are you a baby?
You make me sick!
What has happened to GetBig?
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OMG! Are you comparing a small needle to getting raped? Are you a baby?
What has happened to GetBig?
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And youre scared of the flu??? Are you a pussy?
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And youre scared of the flu??? Are you a pussy?
You’re not fooling anyone. Everyone on this board knows you’re coach.
You make me sick too.
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You make me sick!
What has happened to GetBig?
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u mock the death of children, celebrate tyranny... and endorse the damnation of mankind.
the majority of this forum wants u to die by way of grease fire.
u r a lame gimmick and worse troll.
u will burn in hell.
hope this helps.
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Colleen Huber, NMD, February 21, 2021, updated March 23, 2021
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccineccc
Most of the links below are from medical journals, the FDA, CDC, and other entities that generally support vaccination, yet the information in this article shows how EXTREMELY RISKY the COVID-19 vacdatecines are.
Is the COVID vaccine experimental? Pfizer and Moderna make the COVID-19 vaccines in the US. The FDA granted “emergency use authorization” for these vaccines (herein “COVID injections,” because they are unlike conventional vaccines). Emergency use authorization is required by law to be made only if there are no effective treatments for COVID-19.
But are there effective COVID-19 treatments? 100s of studies done around the world have established, and repeatedly confirmed, fast, effective, well-tolerated treatments for COVID-19 that are in widespread use. I briefly summarize them here.
General risk vs benefit An emergency experimental vaccine cannot be assumed to be safer than a virus with a very high survival rate, such as COVID-19. The average survival rate for NO COVID treatment at all is 99.74%, and we have very successful treatments available, which should easily achieve universal survivability from COVID, if widely available. Where does 99.74% survival come from? Dr. John Ioannidis is the most widely cited scientist in the world. His estimate in June 2020 of a 0.26% infection fatality rate is now confirmed around the world. 100% - 0.26% = 99.74% average survival rate.
Does the COVID injection work? The COVID injection is not even known to stop the spread of COVID. Dr. Larry Corey, who oversees National Institutes of Health COVID-19 vaccine trials said on 11/20/20: “The studies aren’t designed to assess transmission. They don’t ask that question, and there’s really no information on this at this point in time.” https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941388.
The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID-19 infections. "Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group." This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
Specific risks of COVID injections, in roughly chronological order of side-effect manifestation:
Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is one of the ingredients. This has been correlated with anaphylactic shock. So the CDC is now recommending intubation kits at vaccination sites.
Cationic lipid coating of mRNA is known for many years to be toxic, because these (+) charged fats interact with the (–) charges on our amino acids, our cell membranes and the phosphates of our DNA. Cationic lipids are attracted to and are destructive toward:
Lungs ,
Mitochondria,
red blood cells,
white blood cells,
Liver,
Immune and nervous systems function (This is the likely cause of the Bell’s Palsy and tremors that are seen in vaccine victims.)
mRNA: Unlike a traditional vaccine, of injected, inactivated virus intended to stimulate antibody response, the COVID injection on the other hand is completely different in this respect. It uses messenger RNA (mRNA), which is a blueprint for your cells to create COVID-like (spike) proteins. Then your cells begin to make these COVID-like proteins. However, those proteins, in turn, stimulate your body to make antibodies against them. So now your body has been turned into a munitions factory for both sides of a war: The bad guys (COVID-like spike proteins) and the good guys (the antibodies fighting against them). However, before you pledge allegiance to the good guys, as you will see below, the good guys can be more lethal to the vaccinated person.
History of mRNA injections: This technology had disastrous results in dengue fever vaccines in the past. Dengue vaccine is a mRNA vaccine. When this was used in children in the Philippines, many vaccinated children had far worse outcomes than unvaccinated children when they were later exposed to dengue, and many died. Prosecution for homicide resulted. However, this had previously been known to happen with ferrets and with cats. In all cases, the vaccinated animal or human became more vulnerable to worse disease when confronted with it. It is expected that the relatively mild COVID-19 illness, with a survival rate of 99.74%, may reduce to a much lower survival rate and become a truly lethal disease in vaccinated people when they later become infected with it. There are no peer-reviewed published human trials of mRNA vaccines at all, and no mRNA vaccine has ever been FDA approved. That’s how new the technology is.
mRNA can affect DNA. One of the most worrisome risks with a mRNA vaccine is what can happen with reverse transcriptase. This is an enzyme in every cell, and it can theoretically lead to the mRNA creating changes in the cells’ DNA, a process known as viral retro-integration. Although this possibility had been thought unlikely, MIT and Harvard scientists found it happened here. If some of the 30 trillion or so cells in your body become permanent COVID factories, what is the long-term impact on your health, and would you want that outcome?
Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) problem: Prior attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine killed all the test animals, after they were later infected with wild virus. Here’s what happened: mRNA instructed the mammals’ cells to produce the spike proteins of the coronavirus. Then, later, when the animals confronted the wild virus, the intense build-up of antibodies had been stockpiled, and their sudden and overwhelming release killed the test animal. These risks have been documented in Nature, Science and Journal of Infectious Diseases. Here’s a study from Nature on that.
ADE mechanism: ADE is a form of pathogenic priming, meaning the vaccine can result in a more severe disease, which has been seen in prior attempts at making coronavirus vaccines. The antibodies made can be neutralizing (which inactivate a virus, and that’s good), but antibodies are a problem when they are non-neutralizing, because then these antibodies carry active viruses directly to macrophages, which then become infected. This is how ADE happens.
This antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) leads to:
increased viral replication (more viruses to make you sick); and more severe disease
ADE result: These macrophages tend to go to the lungs and fill the lungs, causing overwhelming inflammation and airway obstruction (as found later on autopsy). However, the augmented antibodies also attack similar-looking proteins on internal organs, resulting in cytokine storm and death or auto-immune disease and organ failure. “Cats that showed high titers following vaccination succumbed at later timepoints to fatal disease.”
What about miscarriages, and why have men been advised to freeze their sperm prior to getting the injection? Both men and women are at risk for possibly permanent infertility, because the spike protein of a coronavirus “looks” to the immune system similar to Syncytin-1, an essential protein in the placenta. This stimulates antibodies to fight the placenta, and possibly sperm. Mid-term miscarriages, which are normally very rare, have occurred in women who have been vaccinated for COVID. SARS-CoV-2 viral particles have been found to linger in the testicles of men after recovery from infection.
Why are COVID vaccinees MORE likely to spread COVID than the unvaccinated? Virologist Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, recently warned the World Health Organization (WHO) that "We are currently turning vaccinees into carriers shedding infectious variants."
Why is it more dangerous to vaccinate against COVID-19 than other viruses? Because COVID-19 virus uses the ACE-2 receptor to get into your endothelial cells, including those lining the blood vessels. This creates an inflammatory reaction that the great majority (99.74%) have survived even without treatment, and even more who used known, effective treatments. (See page 1) So if you have been exposed to the virus, and then get vaccinated, it is almost certain that the vaccine will cause new inflammation and damage to endothelial cells lining your blood vessels, and we have seen short-term abnormal blood clotting in people who have gotten the vaccine. But the more likely problem is launching new disease in the blood vessels. Dr. H Noorchashm MD, PhD says, “. . . the vaccine is almost certain to do damage to the vascular endothelium.” He explains here.
Israel is at this writing the most heavily COVID-vaccinated country in the world. The findings of infectious disease experts are reported here, in which they determined, from the Israeli data, that the COVID injection causes:
" . . .mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly . . .”
Well found Ziltoch
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Colleen Huber, NMD, February 21, 2021, updated March 23, 2021
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
Most of the links below are from medical journals, the FDA, CDC, and other entities that generally support vaccination, yet the information in this article shows how EXTREMELY RISKY the COVID-19 vaccines are.
Is the COVID vaccine experimental? Pfizer and Moderna make the COVID-19 vaccines in the US. The FDA granted “emergency use authorization” for these vaccines (herein “COVID injections,” because they are unlike conventional vaccines). Emergency use authorization is required by law to be made only if there are no effective treatments for COVID-19.
But are there effective COVID-19 treatments? 100s of studies done around the world have established, and repeatedly confirmed, fast, effective, well-tolerated treatments for COVID-19 that are in widespread use. I briefly summarize them here.
General risk vs benefit An emergency experimental vaccine cannot be assumed to be safer than a virus with a very high survival rate, such as COVID-19. The average survival rate for NO COVID treatment at all is 99.74%, and we have very successful treatments available, which should easily achieve universal survivability from COVID, if widely available. Where does 99.74% survival come from? Dr. John Ioannidis is the most widely cited scientist in the world. His estimate in June 2020 of a 0.26% infection fatality rate is now confirmed around the world. 100% - 0.26% = 99.74% average survival rate.
Does the COVID injection work? The COVID injection is not even known to stop the spread of COVID. Dr. Larry Corey, who oversees National Institutes of Health COVID-19 vaccine trials said on 11/20/20: “The studies aren’t designed to assess transmission. They don’t ask that question, and there’s really no information on this at this point in time.” https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941388.
The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID-19 infections. "Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group." This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
Specific risks of COVID injections, in roughly chronological order of side-effect manifestation:
Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is one of the ingredients. This has been correlated with anaphylactic shock. So the CDC is now recommending intubation kits at vaccination sites.
Cationic lipid coating of mRNA is known for many years to be toxic, because these (+) charged fats interact with the (–) charges on our amino acids, our cell membranes and the phosphates of our DNA. Cationic lipids are attracted to and are destructive toward:
Lungs ,
Mitochondria,
red blood cells,
white blood cells,
Liver,
Immune and nervous systems function (This is the likely cause of the Bell’s Palsy and tremors that are seen in vaccine victims.)
mRNA: Unlike a traditional vaccine, of injected, inactivated virus intended to stimulate antibody response, the COVID injection on the other hand is completely different in this respect. It uses messenger RNA (mRNA), which is a blueprint for your cells to create COVID-like (spike) proteins. Then your cells begin to make these COVID-like proteins. However, those proteins, in turn, stimulate your body to make antibodies against them. So now your body has been turned into a munitions factory for both sides of a war: The bad guys (COVID-like spike proteins) and the good guys (the antibodies fighting against them). However, before you pledge allegiance to the good guys, as you will see below, the good guys can be more lethal to the vaccinated person.
History of mRNA injections: This technology had disastrous results in dengue fever vaccines in the past. Dengue vaccine is a mRNA vaccine. When this was used in children in the Philippines, many vaccinated children had far worse outcomes than unvaccinated children when they were later exposed to dengue, and many died. Prosecution for homicide resulted. However, this had previously been known to happen with ferrets and with cats. In all cases, the vaccinated animal or human became more vulnerable to worse disease when confronted with it. It is expected that the relatively mild COVID-19 illness, with a survival rate of 99.74%, may reduce to a much lower survival rate and become a truly lethal disease in vaccinated people when they later become infected with it. There are no peer-reviewed published human trials of mRNA vaccines at all, and no mRNA vaccine has ever been FDA approved. That’s how new the technology is.
mRNA can affect DNA. One of the most worrisome risks with a mRNA vaccine is what can happen with reverse transcriptase. This is an enzyme in every cell, and it can theoretically lead to the mRNA creating changes in the cells’ DNA, a process known as viral retro-integration. Although this possibility had been thought unlikely, MIT and Harvard scientists found it happened here. If some of the 30 trillion or so cells in your body become permanent COVID factories, what is the long-term impact on your health, and would you want that outcome?
Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) problem: Prior attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine killed all the test animals, after they were later infected with wild virus. Here’s what happened: mRNA instructed the mammals’ cells to produce the spike proteins of the coronavirus. Then, later, when the animals confronted the wild virus, the intense build-up of antibodies had been stockpiled, and their sudden and overwhelming release killed the test animal. These risks have been documented in Nature, Science and Journal of Infectious Diseases. Here’s a study from Nature on that.
ADE mechanism: ADE is a form of pathogenic priming, meaning the vaccine can result in a more severe disease, which has been seen in prior attempts at making coronavirus vaccines. The antibodies made can be neutralizing (which inactivate a virus, and that’s good), but antibodies are a problem when they are non-neutralizing, because then these antibodies carry active viruses directly to macrophages, which then become infected. This is how ADE happens.
This antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) leads to:
increased viral replication (more viruses to make you sick); and more severe disease
ADE result: These macrophages tend to go to the lungs and fill the lungs, causing overwhelming inflammation and airway obstruction (as found later on autopsy). However, the augmented antibodies also attack similar-looking proteins on internal organs, resulting in cytokine storm and death or auto-immune disease and organ failure. “Cats that showed high titers following vaccination succumbed at later timepoints to fatal disease.”
What about miscarriages, and why have men been advised to freeze their sperm prior to getting the injection? Both men and women are at risk for possibly permanent infertility, because the spike protein of a coronavirus “looks” to the immune system similar to Syncytin-1, an essential protein in the placenta. This stimulates antibodies to fight the placenta, and possibly sperm. Mid-term miscarriages, which are normally very rare, have occurred in women who have been vaccinated for COVID. SARS-CoV-2 viral particles have been found to linger in the testicles of men after recovery from infection.
Why are COVID vaccinees MORE likely to spread COVID than the unvaccinated? Virologist Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, recently warned the World Health Organization (WHO) that "We are currently turning vaccinees into carriers shedding infectious variants."
Why is it more dangerous to vaccinate against COVID-19 than other viruses? Because COVID-19 virus uses the ACE-2 receptor to get into your endothelial cells, including those lining the blood vessels. This creates an inflammatory reaction that the great majority (99.74%) have survived even without treatment, and even more who used known, effective treatments. (See page 1) So if you have been exposed to the virus, and then get vaccinated, it is almost certain that the vaccine will cause new inflammation and damage to endothelial cells lining your blood vessels, and we have seen short-term abnormal blood clotting in people who have gotten the vaccine. But the more likely problem is launching new disease in the blood vessels. Dr. H Noorchashm MD, PhD says, “. . . the vaccine is almost certain to do damage to the vascular endothelium.” He explains here.
Israel is at this writing the most heavily COVID-vaccinated country in the world. The findings of infectious disease experts are reported here, in which they determined, from the Israeli data, that the COVID injection causes:
" . . .mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly . . .”
Well found Ziltoch
more good stuff
this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):
(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)
those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.
hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.
covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.
thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.
its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.
making designer rona... in effect a retrovirus – which increases transmissibility (increasing morbidity (not mortality))
also... this 'new DNA'... is in effect artificially procured 'complementary DNA' (cDNA)... which is - patentable
vaccine manufacturers will effectively own any human who becomes modified by their gene therapy – qualifying them as a genetically modified organism – captured, and protected under patent.
^ that is the rona... that is the 'vaccine'
Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/49
Potential for Permanent Incorporation of Spike Protein Gene into human DNA
'It has been claimed that mRNA-based vaccines are safer than DNA-vectored vaccines that work by incorporating the genetic code for the target antigenic protein into a DNA virus, because the RNA cannot become inadvertently incorporated into the human genome. However, it is not at all clear that this is true. The classic model of DNA → RNA → protein is now known to be false. It is now indisputable that there is a large class of viruses called retroviruses that carry genes that reverse transcribe RNA back into complementary DNA (cDNA).'
'In 1975, Howard Temin, Renato Dulbecco, and David Baltimore shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1975 for their discovery of reverse transcriptase and its synthesis by retroviruses (such as human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)) to derive DNA from RNA (Temin and Mizutani, 1970, Baltimore, 1970).'
'the mRNA in the new SARS-CoV-2 vaccines could also get passed on from generation to generation, with the help of LINEs expressed in sperm, vianon-integrated cDNA encapsulated in plasmids. The implications of this predictable phenomenon are unclear, but potentially far-reaching.'
mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are really ‘gene therapy’ and not vaccines
former professor at the University of Virginia’s school of medicine Dr. David Martin, Ph.D
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mrna-covid-19-vaccines-are-really-gene-therapy-and-not-vaccines-ethicist
“The problem is that in the case of Moderna and Pfizer, this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy,” he continued. The Moderna and Pfizer creations send “a strand of synthetic RNA into the human being and is invoking within the human being the creation of the S1 spike protein, which is a pathogen.”
“This is not only not keeping you from getting sick, it’s making your body produce the thing that makes you sick,” Martin added.
The interviewer admitted that this description – that the injection makes one's body produce an effect that makes one sick – sounds somewhat similar to the effect of vaccines.
But Martin countered that it is “not at all” like a vaccine, since “a vaccine is supposed to trigger immunity. It’s not supposed to trigger you to make a toxin.”
“It’s not somewhat different. It’s not the same at all,” Martin explained. “It’s a means by which your body is conscripted to make the toxin that then allegedly your body somehow gets used to dealing with, but unlike a vaccine, which is to trigger the immune response, this is to trigger the creation of the toxin.”
Targeting the pharmaceutical companies behind the supposed vaccinations, Martin alleged that they have manipulated clinical trial methodology to push their “vaccines” through development and production.
“They (pharmaceutical companies) said they could not test for the existence or absence of the virus and they could not test for the transmissivity because they said it would be impractical. (lol) The companies themselves have admitted to every single thing I’m saying, but they are using the public manipulation of the word vaccine to co-opt the public into believing they’re getting a thing which they are not getting.”
Instead, Martin warns that an mRNA injection “is not going to stop you from getting coronavirus. It’s not going to stop you from getting sick. In fact, on the contrary, it will make you sick far more often than the virus itself.”
Martin presented data confirming his claim, noting that after receiving their second shot of the jab, “80 percent of people had one or more clinical presentations of COVID-19,” whereas “80 percent of people who have an infection according to RT-PCR have no symptoms at all.”
Explaining what the figures mean, he said that people “will get COVID-19 symptoms from getting the gene therapy passed off as a vaccine. You will get COVID symptoms from that 80 percent of the time. If you’re exposed to SARS-CoV-2 according to RT-PCR (positive PCR test), 80 percent of the time you will have no symptoms at all.”
Looking more closely at the claims emanating from the clinical trials, Martin questioned the integrity of companies developing mRNA “gene therapy technology.”
“A human being is going to be potentially exposed to unclassified, both short-term and long-term, risks of altering their RNA and DNA from exposure to this gene therapy,” Martin warned. Of the 40,000 participants in Moderna’s clinical trial, Martin noted that only a “few hundred people had a few days less severe symptoms with the gene therapy when compared to the other control group.”
Even this, he said, is unreliable information, as the pharmaceutical firms “separate out adverse events from actual COVID symptoms.” This allowed the companies to reclassify “a lot of what would have been considered to be COVID symptoms by calling them adverse events,” giving rise to “this ridiculous 90 percent plus effectiveness.”
“As a result of that, we have both a methodology problem, which by the way, has been criticized by a number of clinical scientists. The bigger problem is that they’re still not measuring viral susceptibility and viral transmission. Those are the two legs of the stool that is (sic) required for anyone to say that they are vaccinating a population for public health reasons.”
Martin advised that “this (gene therapy) is not a prophylactic, this is not helping us, we are being told to take a treatment for a disease we don’t have and most likely will not have.”
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Could mRNA vaccines permanently alter DNA? Recent science suggests they might
Research on SARS-CoV-2 RNA by scientists at Harvard and MIT has implications for how mRNA vaccines could permanently alter genomic DNA, according to Doug Corrigan, Ph.D., a biochemist-molecular biologist who says more research is needed.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-mrna-vaccines-permanently-alter-dna-recent-science-suggests-they-might
April 9, 2021 Over the past year, it would be all but impossible for Americans not to notice the media’s decision to make vaccines the dominant COVID narrative, rushing to do so even before any coronavirus-attributed deaths occurred.
The media’s slanted coverage has provided a particularly fruitful public relations boost for messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines — decades in the making but never approved for human use — helping to usher the experimental technology closer to the regulatory finish line.
Under ordinary circumstances, the body makes (“transcribes”) mRNA from the DNA in a cell’s nucleus. The mRNA then travels out of the nucleus into the cytoplasm, where it provides instructions about which proteins to make.
By comparison, mRNA vaccines send their chemically synthesized mRNA payload (bundled with spike protein-manufacturing instructions) directly into the cytoplasm.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and most mRNA vaccine scientists, the buck then stops there — mRNA vaccines “do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way,” the CDC says. The CDC asserts first, that the mRNA cannot enter the cell’s nucleus (where DNA resides), and second, that the cell — Mission-Impossible-style (lmfao) — “gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.”
A December preprint about SARS-CoV-2, by scientists at Harvard and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), produced findings about wild coronavirus that raise questions about how viral RNA operates.
The scientists conducted the analysis because they were “puzzled by the fact that there is a respectable number of people who are testing positive for COVID-19 by PCR long after the infection was gone.”
Their key findings were as follows: SARS-CoV-2 RNAs “can be reverse transcribed in human cells,” “these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed” (a phenomenon called “retro-integration”) — and there are viable cellular pathways to explain how this happens.
According to Ph.D. biochemist and molecular biologist Dr. Doug Corrigan, these important findings (which run contrary to “current biological dogma”) belong to the category of “Things We Were Absolutely and Unequivocally Certain Couldn’t Happen Which Actually Happened.”
The findings of the Harvard and MIT researchers also put the CDC’s assumptions about mRNA vaccines on shakier ground, according to Corrigan. In fact, a month before the Harvard-MIT preprint appeared, Corrigan had already written a blog outlining possible mechanisms and pathways whereby mRNA vaccines could produce the identical phenomenon.
In a second blog post, written after the preprint came out, Corrigan emphasized that the Harvard-MIT findings about coronavirus RNA have major implications for mRNA vaccines — a fact he describes as “the big elephant in the room.” While not claiming that vaccine RNA will necessarily behave in the same way as coronavirus RNA — that is, permanently altering genomic DNA — Corrigan believes that the possibility exists and deserves close scrutiny.
In Corrigan’s view, the preprint’s contribution is that it “validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable.”
Reverse transcription
As the phrase “reverse transcription” implies, the DNA-to-mRNA pathway is not always a one-way street. Enzymes called reverse transcriptases can also convert RNA into DNA, allowing the latter to be integrated into the DNA in the cell nucleus.
Nor is reverse transcription uncommon. Geneticists report that “Over 40% of mammalian genomes comprise the products of reverse transcription.”
The preliminary evidence cited by the Harvard-MIT researchers indicates that endogenous reverse transcriptase enzymes may facilitate reverse transcription of coronavirus RNAs and trigger their integration into the human genome.
The authors suggest that while the clinical consequences require further study, detrimental effects are a distinct possibility and — depending on the integrated viral fragments’ “insertion sites in the human genome” and an individual’s underlying health status — could include “a more severe immune response … such as a ‘cytokine storm’ or auto-immune reactions.”
In 2012, a study suggested that viral genome integration could “lead to drastic consequences for the host cell, including gene disruption, insertional mutagenesis and cell death.”
Corrigan makes a point of saying that the pathways hypothesized to facilitate retro-integration of viral — or vaccine — RNA into DNA “are not unknown to people who understand molecular biology at a deeper level.”
Even so, the preprint’s discussion of reverse transcription and genome integration elicited a maelstrom of negative comments from readers unwilling to rethink biological dogma, some of whom even advocated for retraction (though preprints are, by definition, unpublished) on the grounds that “conspiracy theorists … will take this paper to ‘proof’ that mRNA vaccines can in fact alter your genetic code.”
More thoughtful readers agreed with Corrigan that the paper raises important questions. For example, one reader stated that confirmatory evidence is lacking “to show that the spike protein only is expressed for a short amount of time (say 1-3 days) after vaccination,” adding, “We think that this is the case, but there is no evidence for that.”
In fact, just how long the vaccines’ synthetic mRNA — and thus the instructions for cells to keep manufacturing spike protein — persist inside the cells is an open question.
Ordinarily, RNA is a “notoriously fragile” and unstable molecule. According to scientists, “this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.”
But the synthetic mRNA in the COVID vaccines is a different story. In fact, the step that ultimately allowed scientists and vaccine manufacturers to resolve their decades-long mRNA vaccine impasse was when they figured out how to chemically modify mRNA to increase its stability and longevity — in other words, produce RNA “that hangs around in the cell much longer than viral RNA, or even RNA that our cell normally produces for normal protein production.”
It is anyone’s guess what the synthetic mRNA is doing while it is “hanging around,” but Corrigan speculates that its enhanced longevity raises the probability of it “being converted over into DNA.”
Moreover, because the vaccine mRNA is also engineered to be more efficient at being translated into protein, “negative effects could be more frequent and more pronounced with the vaccine when compared to the natural virus.”
Dollar signs
Corrigan acknowledges that some people may dismiss his warnings, saying “If the virus is able to accomplish this, then why should I care if the vaccine does the same thing?”
He has a ready and compelling response:
“[T]here’s a big difference between the scenario where people randomly, and unwittingly, have their genetics monkeyed with because they were exposed to the coronavirus, and the scenario where we willfully vaccinate billions of people while telling them this isn’t happening.”
Unfortunately, the prevailing attitude seems to be that the “race to get the public vaccinated” justifies taking these extra risks.
In mid-November, after the Jerusalem Post told readers that “when the world begins inoculating itself with these completely new and revolutionary vaccines, it will know virtually nothing about their long-term effects,” an Israeli hospital director argued that it’s not worth waiting two more years to ferret out mRNA vaccines’ “unique and unknown risks” or potential long-term effects.
In the U.S., enthusiasm for mRNA technology is similarly unfettered. Just a few days after the CDC released updated data showing that more than 2,200 deaths of individuals who had received either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines had been reported as of Mar. 26 , The Atlantic praised the technology, suggesting that the “ingenious” synthetic mRNA technology behind Pfizer’s and Moderna’s COVID vaccines represented a “breakthrough” that could “change the world.”
Rather than dismiss the prospect of retro-integration of foreign DNA as a “conspiracy theory,” scientists should be conducting studies with the mRNA-vaccinated to assess actual risks.
In old Disney cartoons, viewers often witnessed Donald Duck’s rich uncle, Scrooge McDuck’s, “bulging eyes [turn] into oversized Vegas slot machine dollar signs” when contemplating opportunities to increase his already immense wealth.
Judging by pharmaceutical company executives’ willingness to overlook mRNA vaccines’ long-term — and possibly multigenerational — risks, they must be similarly entranced by dollar-sign visions of a never-ending pipeline of “plug and play” mRNA products.
COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease
J. Bart Classen, MD
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf
'The current RNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients.'
The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations.'
'The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. The enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit'
'There are many other potential adverse events that can be induced by the novel RNA based vaccines against COVID-19. The vaccine places a novel molecule, spike protein, in/on the surface of host cells. This spike protein is a potential receptor for another possibly novel infectious agent. If those who argue that the COVID-19 is actually a bioweapon are correct, then a second potentially more dangerous virus may be released that binds spike protein found on the host cells of vaccine recipients.'
'Genetic diversity protects species from mass casualties caused by infectious agents. One individual may be killed by a virus while another may have no ill effects from the same virus. By placing the identical receptor, the spike protein, on cells of everyone in a population, the genetic diversity for at least one potential receptor disappears. Everyone in the population now becomes potentially susceptible to binding with the same infectious agent.'
'Approving a vaccine, utilizing novel RNA technology without extensive testing is extremely dangerous. The vaccine could be a bioweapon and even more dangerous than the original infection.'
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Corona Unmasked
select excerpts taken from prelim pre pub chapter of forthcoming, yet to b finalized book – 'Corona Unmasked' – authored by world renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi (and some whore)
https://www.goldegg-verlag.com/goldegg-verlag/wp-content/uploads/corona_unmasked_engl_leseprobe.pdf
The vaccines are here, and they are being given en masse – yet we don’t know if they work, how well they work, or what they do. That is why these vaccines have not been given regular approval by the EU, but only a “conditional approval” for emergency use (1). In the next 2 years, it will be re-viewed whether their benefits outweigh the risks. Every person who gets vaccinated now is part of this huge experiment. But, of course, without any liability!
Because with vaccinations under emergency rules, the manufacturers make no guarantees whatsoever – in case of serious reactions, or even in case of death, they are free from any liability.
Especially for completely novel, gene-based vaccines such as the mRNA vaccines against CoroSARS-CoV-2, a careful study of the possible risks would be particularly important, because according to the current state of scientific knowledge, a variety of severe side effects are conceivable.
It is thus all the more astonishing that meaningful studies on the efficacy and safety of these novel vaccines do not exist at all - Nor were such studies feasible within the short time available. Three pharmaceutical companies were at the fore-front of the mad race for the highly lucrative emergency approval: AstraZeneca with its DNA vector vaccine based on an adenovirus, and Biontech/Pfizer as well as Moderna with their mRNA vaccines. On December 21, 2020, the EU Commission approved the Biontech/Pfi-zer vaccine, followed shortly thereafter on January 6 by approval of the Moderna vaccine; and on January 29, AstraZeneca received EU approval, too. While careful clinical testing of a new vaccine was previously known to take at least 7–10 years, the whole process has now been shortened to mere months. Could reliable data be on the table in such a short time, so that the public could weigh risk versus benefit? Of course not. Nevertheless, everything was accepted and bought sight unseen by the authorities in Europe.
Do current vaccines protect against severe SARS-CoV-2 infection?
As a matter of fact, a protective effect against severe and possibly life-threatening COVID-19 disease could not be shown in monkey models with any of the vaccines (3–5).
What do the human trials say?
Mainstream media jubilantly spread the press releases of the companies without ever asking any critical questions. Thus, from the media we learn that the protection afforded by the vaccines is simply great – with Biontech/Pfizer the level of protection is even 95 percent! That sounds great – bring on the vaccination! But how do these numbers come about, knowing that healthy people very rarely get life-threatening COVID -19?
In fact, among the 40,000+ test subjects of the Biontech/Pfizer study (7), just 170 COVID-19 “cases” occurred (about 0.4%). Of these, 8 occurred among the vaccinated (1x severe), whereas 162 in the unvaccinated control group. The 8 cases in the first group equal 5% of the 162 in the second – therefore, 95% protection!?
Considering this small number of cases overall, the evidence must be described as plainly ridiculous from a scientific point of view. Moreover: how did this study define a “COVID-19 case” in the first place? Aha: symptoms like cough, cold, hoarseness and a positive RT-PCR test, which is extremely unreliable, as everyone knows by now. So, what we have here is a vaccination that might possibly prevent cough, cold, hoarseness in 0.7% of the vaccinated. For this breathtaking achievement, hundreds of vaccinated people had to accept severe side effects, some of which led to hospitalization.
The situation is no better for the other vaccine manufacturers. Accordingly, Professor Peter Doshi, writing in the prestigious British Journal of Medicine, complains: “None of the studies currently underway are designed to detect a reduction in severe outcomes in terms of hospitalization, admission to intensive care units, or death.«
How great is the benefit of vaccination, especially for the group most at risk from the infection? No one knows. Thereby, the justification for the conditional approval is the demonstrated prevention of serious or even deadly events. The conditional approvals for all gene-based vaccines were thus made without any basis whatsoever.
The human trial continues, and everyone who is now enthusiastic about being vaccinated is taking part.
Does the vaccine prevent infection and thus the spread of the viruses?
A widely proclaimed goal of vaccination is not only to prevent COVID-19 disease in the vaccinated persons, but also to prevent the spread of the virus in the population. Already in kindergartens and elementary schools, children are taught that they could unknowingly kill their grandparents because they carry the viruses without being sick themselves. To prevent this, everyone should be vaccinated, including the children. Does this make sense – can a vaccination prevent an infection at all?
Let us start with the first question: does it make sense to try to prevent the spread of viruses that are of little danger to most people in order to supposedly protect a risk group?
When we do develop symptoms, this is a sign that the viruses have found a chance to become active, and also that our immune system has entered the battle. If there is no cough, cold, hoarseness, etc., it means that our body is keeping the viruses at bay from the start. The viral load that a person can release into the out-side world without symptoms is too small to endanger other people in public. Therefore, the plan to vaccinate the entire population is a delusional and insane undertaking.
Let us turn to question 2: could the vaccines prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 viruses at all? The RKI states that this question is completely unresolved so far (13). To find out, one would have to examine whether 1) vaccinated people can still get an infection and whether 2) in this case, the amount of virus present is sufficient to infect others.
AstraZeneca alone made headlines with the news that vaccinated people were significantly less contagious. However, on closer inspection, it is blindingly obvious that once more no data exist to draw this conclusion. The study in question only looked at part 1 of the question: how many more people get an infection after being vaccinated. How was this checked?
The only criterion was positive RT-PCR tests (14). Now even the WHO says that the PCR test alone is not enough to diagnose an infection (15). So what is the the unsubstantiated claim worth that the spread of infection was massively reduced by the AstraZeneca vaccine? NOTHING.
Anyone who has the slightest idea about infections and immune defense also knows that the mechanistic concept for the SARS-CoV-2 vaccination which is presented to the public is amateurish and naive from the start. The antibodies induced by the vaccination will circulate for the most part in the bloodstream. For an analogy, readers may imagine that they themselves are such antibodies, sitting together in the living room – which represents a blood vessel of the lungs. Now the virus comes to the house – not bothering to ring the bell, it just grabs the door handle and steps into the hallway: the lung cell. How could you possibly stop it from doing so, while sitting in the living room? You can’t.
Antibodies can basically only help prevent the further spread of an intruder through the bloodstream. But that is not the primary protection against an attack from the air against the lungs. And that is precisely why there is no truly effective vaccine protection against respiratory infections, including influenza.
If the benefits of vaccinations are more than questionable, what about the risks?
We read in the mainstream media: mRNA vaccines are not new after all. That is true, but they have NEVER been used on humans to fight a viral infection. And humans have never been inoculated with recombinant viral genes, in the form of either DNA or mRNA.
Accordingly, the vaccinations were under a dark cloud from the outset. With all three gene-based vaccines, disturbing immediate side effects were noted – but carefully hidden from general awareness: severe swelling and pain at the injection site, high fever and chills, severe headache, limb and muscle pain throughout the body, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting. Many vaccinated people were so sick that they were unable to work. In the AstraZeneca study, the side effects were so bad that the study protocol had to be changed halfway through: in the later stages, study participants received high doses of the pain- and fever-relieving drug aceta-minophen in order to make the vaccination reasonably tolerable (16). Such changes of protocol in the middle of a study are actually not permitted at all. Why was an exception made here?
But that is not all. The AstraZeneca study was interrupted in July and September 2020 because of the occurrence in vaccinees of an extremely rare autoimmune disease, which affects the spinal cord (17). “Transverse myelitis” is associated with paralysis and normally occurs at the very low frequency of approximately 3 per 1 million population, every year. It is surprising,
then, that 2 such cases occurred among a relatively small number of vaccinated individuals. AstraZeneca announced days later: calm down people, the first test person had incipient multiple sclerosis, the second case was purely an unfortunate coincidence. The show will go on! And so it did – AstraZeneca continued to forge ahead. But not only AstraZeneca – so did everyone else.
Comparable events occurred with competitors Mo-derna and Biontech/Pfizer. With both vaccines, volunteers suffered similarly severe general side effects. This sentence might be moved up to the discussion of general febrile reactions to the AstraZeneca vaccine.
Such a variety of immediate side effects has never been observed with any other vaccination. In America, when comparing the number of reported side effects of different vaccines over the 2 last years, the COVID-19 vaccine already comes out on top, although it was approved only in December 2020 (19).
Is the mRNA vaccine dangerous?
«No« is the answer that is spread everywhere. This is because 1) the vaccine introduces into our body only the information for a small part of the virus, for the so-called spike protein, which means that there is no intact virus that could propagate, and 2) the vaccine only imitates what Nature, too, would do. Intact viruses also release their genetic material into our cells when they attack, turning our cells into virus factories. So, no problem there at all, right?
Far from it. A natural respiratory infection typically affects only the respiratory tract itself. If, at worst, cell death occurs, the damage is local and can be repaired relatively easily.
With a vaccine, however, the viral genetic information is injected into the muscle. Many believe that the packaged viral genes remain at the site of injection – that is, within in the muscle. The genes would be taken up by cells at the site, which is where most “virus factories” would be created. Side effects such as swelling, redness and pain at the injection site would be expected because of this, but they would remain relatively harm-less and go away after a few days.
What a fatal mistake!
The virus genes in the Moderna and Biontech/Pfi-zer vaccines are packaged in so-called nanoparticles – which can be thought of as tiny packages, not made of paper, but of fat-like substances. This protects the contents and makes it easier for them to be absorbed by the cells of our body. The packaging itself causes a risk of severe allergic reactions that is many times higher than with conventional vaccines (20). It is thus not without reason that people with allergies are now being warned not to get vaccinated – life-threatening reactions (anaphylactic shock) could be triggered. In fact, such dangerous side effects did occur in some vaccination volunteers, who required emergency treatment. In addition, nanoparticles can have numerous other harmful effects because they can interfere with the function of our blood cells and clotting system (21).
But it gets infinitely worse. It is part of basic medical knowledge that all soluble substances injected into muscle tissue enter the bloodstream and are distributed throughout the body within a very short time. This is precisely why substances that are supposed to act immediately are injected into the muscles.
It is known that the injected gene packets also enter the bloodstream (22). Which cell types will take them up, process them, and then produce the virus protein?
The answer to this is not known with certainty.
We are now witnessing large-scale experiments on humans. This is absolutely irresponsible, especially since there was reason for caution from the beginning. The potential dangers from the “packaging” were already known. More significantly, however, alarming antibody-dependent enhancement – in this case, the antibodies do not prevent uptake of the virus into cells, but rather enhance it – has been observed in animal studies on SARS and other coronaviruses (23, 24). In the decades-long, yet futile effort to develop vaccines against SARS or MERS, this enhancement effect was repeatedly observed, as one among problem among many others (25). With this in mind, should not animal studies have been conducted to clearly rule out this effect for SARS-CoV-2? Physicians who do not alert those willing to be vaccinated to the risk that vaccination could make the disease worse, not better, are in violation of their duty to inform (26).
And more seriously, could the inoculation of viral genes trigger other novel immune-related enhancement effects? Shouldn’t such very elementary things have been considered and tested beforehand?
As a reminder, lymphocytes have a long-term memory – they remember what the «molecular garbage« looks like that is produced in Coronavirus infections. And corona garbage looks pretty much the same no matter which member of the virus family it is derived from. All humans have had training rounds with coronaviruses, and thus they have lymphocytes that will recognize SARS-CoV-2 garbage. People without in-depth knowledge might counter that these cross-reactive killer lymphocytes were detected in only 40–70% of old blood samples, and they reacted only weakly against SARS-CoV-2 (27, 28). However, it is known that only a small proportion of all lymphocytes are in the blood at any given time. The others are just taking a break and resting in the lymphoid organs (including the lymph nodes).
Here, we note an exciting finding: In April 2020, Swedish researchers reported that they had discovered something truly remarkable. Activated and combat-ready T lymphocytes were found in the blood of all people (100%) infected with SARS-CoV-2, regardless of the severity of the disease (29).
This finding is a clear, unmistakable warning.
For context: during an initial confrontation of the immune system with a virus, the lymphocyte response will be sluggish. Rapid, strong reactions such as that documented by the Swedish team reveal that forewarned troops are already at the ready and can be mobilized on short notice. They will swarm out of the lymphoid organs to fight the enemy. Their main task: extermination of the virus factories – death to the body’s own cells that produce the virus particles.
And now back to the new reality: the large-scale experiment on humans. The injected gene packets are taken up locally in muscle cells, but a large part reaches first the local lymph nodes and, after passing through these, the bloodstream. The lymph nodes are where the immune cell team resides. When the viral gene is taken up by any cell there, production of the spike protein gets underway. The corona killer lymphocyte next door wakes up and springs into action – the brotherly battle begins! Lymph node swelling. Pain. The lymphocytes psyche each other up and then emerge from the lymph nodes to seek out more enemies.
Yes – over there – the muscle cells! There they are!!! Attack!!! At the injection site redness, swelling, bad pain.
But now the nightmare.
This is because the substances with small molecules – for example, blood sugar – can easily seep out of the blood into the tissue, whereas large molecules such as proteins cannot. For them, the vessel walls are tight thanks to the lining with a cell layer – the endothelial cells.
What are the gene packages like – large or small?
Right – compared to blood sugar, they certainly are large. Therefore, once they enter the bloodstream, they will remain in the closed network of vascular tubes just like the blood cells. A small part of them is taken up by white blood cells. Presumably, however, most of the virus factories will be established in the endothelial cells, that is, in the innermost cell layer of the blood vessels themselves. This would happen mainly where the blood flows slowly – within the smallest and smallest vessels – because the gene packages can be taken up particularly efficiently by the cells there (30).
The endothelial cells then produce the viral spike protein and place the waste at the door – on the side that faces the bloodstream, where killer lymphocytes are on patrol. This time, the fight is one-sided. The endothelial cells have no defense.
What happens then can only be guessed at. Injury to the vascular lining usually leads to the formation of blood clots. This would likely happen in countless vessels in countless places in the body. If it happens in the placenta, severe damage to the child in the womb could result.
Shudder.
Is there evidence that something like this is taking place? Yes, there is talk of rare blood disorders in which a possible link to vaccination would have to be investigated (31). Strikingly, there are reports of patients in whom a sharp drop in blood platelets (thrombocytes) was observed. This would fit the hypothesis put for-ward here, because platelets are activated and used up at the sites of blood clot formation.
What is more, it seems that particularly the vaccinated are dying. Is this perhaps the immune-related exacerbation of diseases we have reason to fear? Not caused by antibodies, but by activated killer lymphocytes? And couldn’t this happen at any time to anyone vaccinated – tomorrow, the next day, next week, next fall? Because lymphocytes have an elephant’s memory. And they recognize something that looks similar in all coronaviruses: the molecular garbage that is produced by the virus-infected cells. That is, the lymphocyte induced exacerbation of disease progression could arguably occur with any infection with a related virus. In any “successfully” vaccinated person – young or old – and at any time in the near or distant future.
Conclusion
Gene-based vaccines received emergency approval at lightning speed to combat a virus that is no more dangerous than influenza (34). There is now clear evidence that people can become severely ill and die from these vaccinations. No real-world benefit of vaccination has ever been shown. Until reliable and convincing data are available, this high-risk human experiment must not be allowed to continue.
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the fact that this lab created mRNA virus, and thus the synthetic, modified gene therapies based on said lab created virus – gains entry into the nucleus, incorporating into the host cell genome via gain of function provided by HIV gp120 and gag sequences - thereby producing new - altered - chimeric DNA – and a bunch of other horrible shit – is the smoking gun.
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u mock the death of children, celebrate tyranny... and endorse the damnation of mankind.
the majority of this forum wants u to die by way of grease fire.
u r a lame gimmick and worse troll.
u will burn in hell.
hope this helps.
Only Shizzo posts on Getbig at the annoyance level of OAK. ::)
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u mock the death of children, celebrate tyranny... and endorse the damnation of mankind.
the majority of this forum wants u to die by way of grease fire.
u r a lame gimmick and worse troll.
u will burn in hell.
hope this helps.
I'm the "gimmick"
How ironic.
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I'm the "gimmick"
How ironic.
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GIMMICK OR KHUNT IS ALL THE SAME - FUCK OFF & WHEN YOUVE FUCKED OFF FUCK OFF SOME MORE
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GIMMICK OR KHUNT IS ALL THE SAME - FUCK OFF & WHEN YOUVE FUCKED OFF FUCK OFF SOME MORE
Hey. Remember last week when you invited me over to your house so I could “see how big your muscles were”? That was weird.
I’ll pass by the way.
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Hey. Remember last week when you invited me over to your house so I could “see how big your muscles were”? That was weird.
I’ll pass by the way.
😬😬😬
Latent homosexuality- yep- Howard, hahaha
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Latent homosexuality- yep- Howard, hahaha
It was even CREEPIER when you asked me for my address. 😬
GetBig SURE has changed over the years.
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Hey. Remember last week when you invited me over to your house so I could “see how big your muscles were”? That was weird.
I’ll pass by the way.
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Why do keep bringing this up. Are you trying to show us your true nature?
You are bizarre.
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Why do keep bringing this up. Are you trying to show us your true nature?
You are bizarre.
No.
I just thought it was weird when illuminati invited me over to his house to "show me how in shape he was".
Obviously for antivaxxers like yourself this is normal.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3f/3fb14a65b3611d5b97bd8acfde2f5ca3dea74cf927370cf560449d06c8e3cbb0.jpg)
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No.
I just thought it was weird when illuminati invited me over to his house to "show me how in shape he was".
Obviously for antivaxxers like yourself this is normal.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3f/3fb14a65b3611d5b97bd8acfde2f5ca3dea74cf927370cf560449d06c8e3cbb0.jpg)
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It may well be that I speak for all adults here when I say I envy those who have never read your drivel, let alone met you in the real world. You and your dust are shaken. You deserve that which you have woven about you here.
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It may well be that I speak for all adults here when I say I envy those who have never read your drivel, let alone met you in the real world. You and your dust are shaken. You deserve that which you have woven about you here.
Yes. But why did illuminati invite me over to his house?
Is the "new normal" now for Getbig?
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"More restrictions are being introduced for those who are unvaccinated, requiring such individuals to provide proof of a negative antigen test within 24 hours or a negative PCR test within 48 hours of attending gatherings with more than 1,000 in attendancem such as concerts or sporting events. The previous window for a negative test was 72 hours."
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It was even CREEPIER when you asked me for my address. 😬
GetBig SURE has changed over the years.
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So you are Howard?
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Yes. But why did illuminati invite me over to his house?
Is the "new normal" now for Getbig?
😬😬😬
OI BILLY BIG BOLLOCKS WHY DONT YOU FIND OUT--THIS THE BEST YOU CAN DO MARICON
OH & FUCK OFF - HTH
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No.
I just thought it was weird when illuminati invited me over to his house to "show me how in shape he was".
Obviously for antivaxxers like yourself this is normal.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3f/3fb14a65b3611d5b97bd8acfde2f5ca3dea74cf927370cf560449d06c8e3cbb0.jpg)
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I think that gets you off. Probably playing with your tiny noodle as we speak just thinking about his big oily chest.
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Only Shizzo posts on Getbig at the annoyance level of OAK. ::)
So you are Howard?
oak is Howard.
if not.. someone has taken the time (who would bother?) to intelligently mimic Howard's intellectual fingerprint.
'oak' is not smart enough to do that... just as Howard is not smart enough to conceal himself.
therefore oak is Howard the coward, imo
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OI BILLY BIG BOLLOCKS WHY DONT YOU FIND OUT--THIS THE BEST YOU CAN DO MARICON
OH & FUCK OFF - HTH
Superb, my brother! S U P E R B ! ;D
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Superb, my brother! S U P E R B ! ;D
Ha ha Thanks,
Something clearly very wrong about him = Mentally Disturbed
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(https://i.ibb.co/1nfgP3y/oak.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Hey. Remember last week when you invited me over to your house so I could see how muscular you were?
That was weird.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3f/3fb14a65b3611d5b97bd8acfde2f5ca3dea74cf927370cf560449d06c8e3cbb0.jpg)
Oak I've warned you about soliciting members on here for sex.
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Oak I've warned you about soliciting members on here for sex.
Are you willing to call a truce?
I’m in if you are.
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Who provided those percentages, the vaxxx companies? Why would you need a booster every 3-6 months if they were so effective?
It's a cult if you can't put 2 and 2 together. Those numbers are nowhere near reality.
I am done conversing on this topic. You and others of your ilk will find reason to support your foregone beliefs. Clearly, there is nothing I can do to even make the smallest dent in them. So have at it. If I am around in years to come, we can revise this discussion to see just who was making the most accurate predictions.
I'll give you this answer to your question about boosters, only a couple of years ago there was no COVID, why do you believe two years later we should have answers.
Maybe the stats I posted are nowhere near accurate. How about you post some which are?
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I am done conversing on this topic. You and others of your ilk will find reason to support your foregone beliefs. Clearly, there is nothing I can do to even make the smallest dent in them. So have at it. If I am around in years to come, we can revise this discussion to see just who was making the most accurate predictions.
I'll give you this answer to your question about boosters, only a couple of years ago there was no COVID, why do you believe two years later we should have answers.
Maybe the stats I posted are nowhere near accurate. How about you post some which are?
Just 1 Question Give just 1 Answer.
How many people have you seen dropping dead in the streets-like what was 1st shown in news reports from China ??
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I am done conversing on this topic. You and others of your ilk will find reason to support your foregone beliefs. Clearly, there is nothing I can do to even make the smallest dent in them. So have at it. If I am around in years to come, we can revise this discussion to see just who was making the most accurate predictions.
I'll give you this answer to your question about boosters, only a couple of years ago there was no COVID, why do you believe two years later we should have answers.
Maybe the stats I posted are nowhere near accurate. How about you post some which are?
I feel your pain Prime! Don’t give up though.
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I am done conversing on this topic.
Thank god. For a minute there I thought you were going to become another OAK Howard
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I'll give you this answer to your question about boosters, only a couple of years ago there was no COVID, why do you believe two years later we should have answers.
Ah, well...the bargaining phase and stockholm syndrome has started. Let's blame ourselves, not the people that put all this into motion. Let's say that two years is not long enough to know anything after taking a vaxxx that was developed in months with things in it that have never been used successfully.
Incompetence is not an excuse for rolling out an experimental vaxx that works for 3-6 months(big pharma and govt knew this early on), and making the whole world get it.
That constitutes a plan of action in which the primary focus is other than public health. You defend these tormentors to the end as will many in the future, despite the mountain of evidence that this was at the minimum poorly executed by bumbling govt officials and greedy pharma execs and at the far end somehow diabolical.
Either way, to not notice that "follow the science" only works if scientific norms are observed rather than pharma and govt wish lists - is willful ignorance due to political partisanship.