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« Reply #175 on: December 04, 2021, 11:08:30 PM »
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Even using your site that tracks deaths from the beginning when Covid was more deadly and no vaccine was available which despite being “leaky” has kept the death rate way lower it puts the death rate at 1.3%. The death rate is even lower now if your track the last 6 months. What do you want to do wear masks and have restrictions forever? It’d been proven they don’t work and with the southern eastern states having lower case numbers than places like California you could make the argument they are counter productive that’s the “science” in a real world experiment. No pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years how long you willing to do this dance ? I’ve accepted the fact that you need to get vaccinated or catch Covid or both,and realistically most people will have both happen weather they know it or not. You have to realize going in public is a risk no matter how many masks u have on and if Covid is as contagious as they say you will not be able to avoid it so society mite as well get on with it. It’s been to long.

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« Reply #176 on: December 04, 2021, 11:17:02 PM »
I wonder when the ruling class and the tech oligarchs will allow us to talk about the observable reality that the vaccines don't work very well.

How many fucking shots do we all need to take before we develop immunity and stop this virus in it's tracks?  3, 4, 10?

Funny big pharma said we can tweak the vaccine for delta yet the boosters are here and people are lining up for the exact same shot no delta tweak. Now same is being said for the even WEAKER omnicron. Why would u line up again for the same shot? I could see maybe if u were at risk and they tweaked it but for the same shot? Are you expecting a different result? If they lasted 6 months the 1st time it’s prob a safe bet they will last 6 months the 2nd time. Yet banned from everything if you mention that even if your a md?

To answer your question they are gonna want your money at least once, prob twice a year for a shot u don’t need like the flu shot

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« Reply #177 on: December 05, 2021, 02:08:33 AM »
Even using your site that tracks deaths from the beginning when Covid was more deadly and no vaccine was available which despite being “leaky” has kept the death rate way lower it puts the death rate at 1.3%. The death rate is even lower now if your track the last 6 months. What do you want to do wear masks and have restrictions forever? It’d been proven they don’t work and with the southern eastern states having lower case numbers than places like California you could make the argument they are counter productive that’s the “science” in a real world experiment. No pandemic has ever lasted longer than 2 years how long you willing to do this dance ? I’ve accepted the fact that you need to get vaccinated or catch Covid or both,and realistically most people will have both happen weather they know it or not. You have to realize going in public is a risk no matter how many masks u have on and if Covid is as contagious as they say you will not be able to avoid it so society mite as well get on with it. It’s been to long.

Yep. Let 'er rip.

Or use terror and punishment to institute a technocratic oligarchy.

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« Reply #178 on: December 05, 2021, 09:25:21 AM »
They told you it would only take another 14 days to flatten the curve. Then they promised you the masks, social distancing and lockdowns would protect you. Then they said the vaccines would get us back to normal. Now they are promising you the boosters will protect you. They said there were almost no cases of flu due to the restrictions but now it's back even though the restrictions are still implemented and are stricter than ever before. Nothing what they told you has worked and you still believe and do everything they say? You are slowly but surely being programmed. Just like a woman who keeps coming back to her abusive boyfriend and defends him while her friends point out the obvious.

and the cherry on the cake for them is us turning against each other. And it works perfectly

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« Reply #179 on: December 05, 2021, 09:29:44 AM »


Hahaha.....too funny!

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« Reply #180 on: December 05, 2021, 09:35:05 AM »
The Technocratic Dictatorship has been emerging for a very long time now... I think "zog", or whatever stupid name one gives it, is in a kind of hurry to "seal the deal".
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Re: Just Say No - No Masks, No Tests, No Injections, etc
« Reply #181 on: December 05, 2021, 11:41:02 AM »
Why? You told me to come to your house?

You’re not very bright are you?

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Post up Yours Moron
Then you can wait for my knock at your door.

As for being Bright I maybe as bright as a 100w bulb You're about as bright as a 5w bulb.
Carry on wearing your face nappies & gloves & visor & having your jabs.

FUCK OFF MORON

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« Reply #182 on: December 05, 2021, 03:14:32 PM »
Go ahead. Laugh it up.

Pretty soon you won’t be able to leave your house.

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neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha

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« Reply #183 on: December 05, 2021, 04:34:24 PM »
Sucks to be you then I guess. You can kiss your freedom goodbye.

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Pretty soon you won’t be able to leave your house.

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children get lower doses and those under 12 will get even smaller doses when that gets the ok.

this is the true Howard.

he gleefully endorses the loss of freedom and poisoning of children.

the compliant r depraved. 

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« Reply #184 on: December 05, 2021, 04:48:46 PM »
Question:

If requiring people to wear masks in public is a loss of their freedom isn't requiring people to wear clothes in public a loss of their freedom too?

How come antivaxxers aren't protesting pants or underwear mandates too?

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Antivaxxers are SO dumb.

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Which is why in liberal Portland or in Oregon, it is not illegal to be naked unless there is an intent to arouse. It is one of those catch 22 issues. This law is based on freedom of speech. It is was allows for "naked bike ride' and various other group naked events. Walk around beating off and it is off to jail. Clear as mud. 

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« Reply #185 on: December 05, 2021, 05:17:40 PM »
I hear a lot of 'end justifies means' arguments in support of mandates. Is there anything we can't do or do we have an obligation to accept any distasteful policy if it saves lives over all?

Say people are slow to vaccinate their children. If it would save 100 lives each time by motivating parents to vaccinate their kids, should we have a nationally televised weekly program where a death squad turns up and cuts the lad top to bottom in half with a chainsaw? Would you do it if it saves lives? Don't you have to?

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« Reply #186 on: December 05, 2021, 05:24:26 PM »
I hear a lot of 'end justifies means' arguments in support of mandates. Is there anything we can't do or do we have an obligation to accept any distasteful policy if it saves lives over all?

Say people are slow to vaccinate their children. If it would save 100 lives each time by motivating parents to vaccinate their kids, should we have a nationally televised weekly program where a death squad turns up and cuts the lad top to bottom in half with a chainsaw? Would you do it if it saves lives? Don't you have to?

Cutting kids up with a chain saw seems just a tad bit excessive as compared to mask wearing and vaccinations.

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« Reply #187 on: December 05, 2021, 05:31:06 PM »
Cutting kids up with a chain saw seems just a tad bit excessive as compared to mask wearing and vaccinations.

Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.

How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?

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« Reply #188 on: December 05, 2021, 05:39:17 PM »
Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.

How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?

You are trying to set me up. I read the news too. Since this has happened, your question is surely rhetorical. Since when did what I do have any bearing on what should be done? In general, I opposed separating children from their parents in all but the most extreme situations. IMO not getting your kids vaccinated for COVID does not qualify as extreme. Not only that, there are a plethora of other ways resolve issues with unvaccinated kids...for example, don't allow them to attend school. 

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« Reply #189 on: December 05, 2021, 05:52:51 PM »
Saves lives but too distasteful. Check.

How about if parents don't vaccinate their kids we declare them child abusers and take the kids away. Would you do that? Remember now, it's going to save lives. Isn't it evil not to do it?

Democrats believe in that whole "It takes a village" bullshit.  I have no doubt that most of them would be on board.  They already have the FBI investigating parents at school board meetings.

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« Reply #190 on: December 05, 2021, 05:58:45 PM »
I had no idea that's actually happened. I forsee it as a likely action of the Aus government tho. Honestly don't know what you mean about your personal circumstances. Not having a crack at you personally, Prime.

The point I'm trying to make is that utilitarian reckoning is absurd. It demands we chainsaw a kid in half on TV because doing it will save more lives, and if you don't chainsaw the kid then you're evil because you let 100 others die.

Justifying harm inflicted by benefits gained is nonsense reasoning, yet it's normalized at this point. So my question is where's the boundary or is there one at all?

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« Reply #191 on: December 05, 2021, 06:23:31 PM »
Democrats believe in that whole "It takes a village" bullshit.  I have no doubt that most of them would be on board.  They already have the FBI investigating parents at school board meetings.

It's time for them to be honest. Next campaign ad should be Hillary pulling out a pistol and pointing it at some working class guy. "I said... we're all in this together! Now get in the boxcar with the others!" [sips champagne] "YOU CALL THIS CHILLED!!"

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« Reply #192 on: December 05, 2021, 06:24:17 PM »
I had no idea that's actually happened. I forsee it as a likely action of the Aus government tho. Honestly don't know what you mean about your personal circumstances. Not having a crack at you personally, Prime.

The point I'm trying to make is that utilitarian reckoning is absurd. It demands we chainsaw a kid in half on TV because doing it will save more lives, and if you don't chainsaw the kid then you're evil because you let 100 others die.

Justifying harm inflicted by benefits gained is nonsense reasoning, yet it's normalized at this point. So my question is where's the boundary or is there one at all?

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« Reply #193 on: December 05, 2021, 06:50:09 PM »
We need smaller government and not larger as in socialism.

agree./ Convince your Republican party and I'm on board.

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« Reply #194 on: December 05, 2021, 06:51:37 PM »
agree./ Convince your Republican party and I'm on board.

Get the plunger.  There's a huuuuuuuge turdle in the forums.   Law Enfarcement Officer.

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« Reply #195 on: December 05, 2021, 06:53:38 PM »
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Ha, thanks man.

While I'm geeking: There a great scene in Dr. Zhivago where the doctor's brother, who is a Bolshevik operative, explains, "We're just like you. We're performing an operation on the social body. We're cutting out injustice."

Zhivago, more interested in poetry and love than politics, replies, "Ah, but removing injustice from life is a deep operation. Someone has to keep the patient alive while you perform it. By living. Isn't that right?"

Brother's voice as narrator, "I thought then that it was wrong."

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« Reply #196 on: December 05, 2021, 06:59:28 PM »
neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha

Ha.  ;D That he will,
Anyway he's pretty much paralyzed from the neck up as it is already.

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« Reply #197 on: December 05, 2021, 07:17:24 PM »
neither will you because youll be paralyzed from the neck down from your 38th booster shot hahaha

I think he's in his parents  basement.  The wOAK  deserves to Covid up and crap out. 

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« Reply #198 on: December 05, 2021, 08:50:23 PM »
Btw, in addition to the adverse reactions which my gf witnessed among geriatrics in her workplace who received AstraZeneca, and those she witnessed among fellow staff members who received Pfizer, as well as my mother's increase in tinnitus (vehemently denied by the doctor at the time, now listed as a possible side effect), all of which I've already bored the board with, I've since been told by a couple for whom I was doing painting work that their 22yo otherwise healthy daughter ended up in the hospital with severe chest pains in days following her Pfizer shot (unsure if first or second). Another prospective client advised me he's not bothered that I'm unvaccinated. He isn't either, on the advice of his daughter who works at a pharmacy and claims to have witnessed multiple adverse events, and is herself remaining unvaccinated for that reason, even though it'll cost her the job.

Fwiw. If it's worth nothing to you, not a problem. As for myself, I can't reconcile this frequency of severe events with claims that data shows bad reactions to be exceedingly rare. Absent explanations for the seeming disparity, I'm inclined to believe what I judge to be credible witness reports over data about which I can't make any judgment.

Obviously, I have no way of proving that I'm faithfully repeating what others have told me. So, again, it's just for what it's worth.

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« Reply #199 on: December 05, 2021, 09:27:29 PM »