Just Say No - No Masks, No Tests, No Injections, etc

[OAK]

Fuck Off Nazi

I'm Not Telling You Anything

Interesting. That’s EXACTLY what I though you’d say. You SHEEP are so predictable.

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[OAK]

Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.

So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?

I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.

It’s just a matter of time before the unvaccinated lose the right to COVID treatment. Our system can’t handle it.

Also, it’s already happened in Singapore. I hear it’s very popular there too.

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[bLuEeYes]

what do the taxes we pay have to do w medical treatment?

In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.

I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you 

[tommywishbone]

Never comply.

Tell people to fuck off. They are all cowards. Worthless filthy cowards. They all need to die.

[bLuEeYes]

It’s just a matter of time before the unvaccinated lose the right to COVID treatment. Our system can’t handle it.

Also, it’s already happened in Singapore. I hear it’s very popular there too.

❤️

Wait for the long term vaxx side effects kicking in and you'll spend most of your life between hospital beds   

Submissive c.unt

[Primemuscle]

Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.

So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?

I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.

You missed the point which is if someone seriously denies COVID existence and everything connected with it, how can they get sick or die from something that isn't real?

Why do you care so much about my 'butthole'? I guarantee it doesn't give a shit about you.

[OAK]

Wait for the long term vaxx side effects kicking in and you'll spend most of your life between hospital beds   

Submissive c.unt

8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.

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[bLuEeYes]

8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.

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You're already acting like a slut so maybe that's a side effect of being vaxxed, and that's worst than death.

[joswift]

8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.

😆😆😆

5 years time after booster number 23

[illuminati]

Interesting. That’s EXACTLY what I though you’d say. You SHEEP are so predictable.

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Fuck Off Nazi

Ha, Sheep, that's you NumbNuts.

[ProudVirgin69]

In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.

I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you 

Sorry, forgot that posters from other countries post here    anyways: the american government exists to generate profits for corporations, not to serve its constituents

[Howard]

Why he doesn't have the right to treatement? People have been paying taxes their whole life to get treatement if they feel they need it.

So only because he's an antivaxxer, he shouldn't get treatement if he gets COVID? haha So smokers shouldn't get lung cancer treatement too because they didn't stop smoking? Obese people shouldn't get heart surgeries because they refused to slim down? Do you even hear yourself talk old fuck?

I hope when you go to reconstruct your old fag butthole they'll refuse to put your rectum back in place because you're gay and refused to stop putting dildos up your ass.

Think about like this:

You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.

Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.

Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.

The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.

The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)

No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT,  getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.

Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?

[IroNat]

In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.

I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you 

We have 12 aircraft carriers, lots of nuclear submarines, stealth bombers and jets, etc.

How many of those does your country have?

[IroNat]

Think about like this:

You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.

Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.

Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.

The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.

The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)

No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT,  getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.

Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?

Where do you come up with the 40x figure?  What age group?

[Primemuscle]

Think about like this:

You refuse to wear your seat or shoulder belt and end up in a bad head on crash.
Without the seat or shoulder belt on, you get violently thrown into the dashboard and front window.
Sadly, you die quickly from the head trauma.

Maybe, you didn't die but suffered a bad injury.
Now the hospital and health care workers have to treat the worst possible injuries.

Now, it's possible that people wearing their belts properly still get hurt or even die in car accidents.
That's true, but ask any car ins company or state police about the odds.

The properly belted person has a much better shot to avoid being killed or seriously injured in the same accident.
Like it or not, that's why the car ins biz, made sure it's a law to wear a seat belt.

The current odds are you're 40x more likely to die from covid if you're UNvaccinated .
The delta and new omicron covid variations all began in an UNvaccinated person ( India and S Africa)

No health or safety measure is ever 100% perfect.
BUT,  getting the vaccine gives you the best odds to be safe from serious illness or death from covid.

Why not be practical and just go with the best odds to stay safe and healthy?

Because practicality (common sense) has no place amateur politics

[ProudVirgin69]

We have 12 aircraft carriers, lots of nuclear submarines, stealth bombers and jets, etc.

How many of those does your country have?

Yes, our government gives private military industrial contractors ungodly amounts of money.  Imagine if they spent that money on their constituents instead 

[TheShape.]

Because practicality (common sense) has no place amateur politics

Common sense would suggest I’d rather take the risk of the virus vs long term effects of gene therapy that was studied and executed in less than a year. Anybody who took that thing is a lab experiment whether you like it or not and now you’re on your third shot in less than a year. Meanwhile I just dealt with what was mild cold and recovered naturally.

[OAK]

Common sense would suggest I’d rather take the risk of the virus vs long term effects of gene therapy that was studied and executed in less than a year. Anybody who took that thing is a lab experiment whether you like it or not and now you’re on your third shot in less than a year. Meanwhile I just dealt with what was mild cold and recovered naturally.

That's great YOU recovered. How many people did you spread the virus to?

The virus is in you body for the rest of your life now. Most viruses have long term side effects. What will the long term effects of COVID be?

Also, it been shown that "natural immunity" doesn't last very long. Odds are you will get the virus again.

 

[Tapeworm]

In my country, we pay taxes for free health care. So if I ever get sick, the government MUST find me a place where to get my medical care. I pay for my way to the hospital and no one has the right to deny my access to medical treatement vaxxed or not.

I don't know why you guys pay taxes over there? It seems like you pay taxes with no obligation of the government toward you 

You're coming to terms with the truth about socialism. I know they told you it's nice. I know they said we're all in this together. But with universal programs come universal mandates.

Once you acknowledge that you're paying for fat people's heart attacks while having zero say in your own destiny, you might conclude that systems which strip you of your natural right of self determination and withhold life sustaining essentials if you try to make your own choices instead of doing as you're told are actually the opposite of nice.

At which point you'll feel kinda silly for expecting reciprocity or fairness from systems which have to destroy dissent in order to survive. You'll see that you have been lied to, that you basically live in a large prison, and taking about deserving services in exchange for taxation is begging your jailer for help because you've been a well behaved inmate.

Clearly, I'm off the deep end here. So here's a crackpot idea: If you want medical care, you go to the doctor and pay him for it. You don't go to the government. You don't go to an insurance company. When I want apples, I buy them from someone who sells apples. You buy the thing you want from the person who sells it. A lunatic fringe notion, I admit.

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Systems of collective equity are by definition inequitable since they imply a super-collective administrative authority which inequitably enforces equity. "Some more equal than others."

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To stop inhibiting an activity doesn't bestow the right to perform the activity. If you're trying to walk down the sidewalk and I keep sticking my arms out and blocking the sidewalk, you wouldn't say,  after I finally stand aside, that you didn't have the right to take a walk until I gave it to you. You wouldn't say it if I had a squad of hired goons helping me. It wouldn't even be true if I got all the homeowners who live on that street to help me. Even though there are thousands of ways I can stop you from taking a walk, none of them make me the source of your right to take a walk.

Because someone can stop you exercising your natural rights doesn't make them the source of your rights. Don't be fooled.

[tommywishbone]

8,000,000,000 doses administered so far. Where’s all the mass graves from vaccine deaths.

😆😆😆

It's located right next to the mass graves from all the Covid deaths.

[ProudVirgin69]

You're coming to terms with the truth about socialism. I know they told you it's nice. I know they said we're all in this together. But with universal programs come universal mandates.

Once you acknowledge that you're paying for fat people's heart attacks while having zero say in your own destiny, you might conclude that systems which strip you of your natural right of self determination and withhold life sustaining essentials if you try to make your own choices instead of doing as you're told are actually the opposite of nice.

At which point you'll feel kinda silly for expecting reciprocity or fairness from systems which have to destroy dissent in order to survive. You'll see that you have been lied to, that you basically live in a large prison, and taking about deserving services in exchange for taxation is begging your jailer for help because you've been a well behaved inmate.

Clearly, I'm off the deep end here. So here's a crackpot idea: If you want medical care, you go to the doctor and pay him for it. You don't go to the government. You don't go to an insurance company. When I want apples, I buy them from someone who sells apples. You buy the thing you want from the person who sells it. A lunatic fringe notion, I admit.

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Systems of collective equity are by definition inequitable since they imply a super-collective administrative authority which inequitably enforces equity. "Some more equal than others."

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To stop inhibiting an activity doesn't bestow the right to perform the activity. If you're trying to walk down the sidewalk and I keep sticking my arms out and blocking the sidewalk, you wouldn't say,  after I finally stand aside, that you didn't have the right to take a walk until I gave it to you. You wouldn't say it if I had a squad of hired goons helping me. It wouldn't even be true if I got all the homeowners who live on that street to help me. Even though there are thousands of ways I can stop you from taking a walk, none of them make me the source of your right to take a walk.

Because someone can stop you exercising your natural rights doesn't make them the source of your rights. Don't be fooled.

What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?

[OAK]

It's located right next to the mass graves from all the Covid deaths.

Here's an EXAMPLE of a COVID mass grave, where's the ones for the vaccine?

[Tapeworm]

What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?

What happens to the healthy guy who keeps paying for his fat neighbor's heart attacks under the current system?

I'll make you a deal. Have a pobrecito system so no one is left out in the cold and I'll even chip in taxwise. In exchange, I and others are unencumbered in forming agreements with any service provider who wants our business, which is what naturally happens in the absence of government interference.

You get your socialist safety net but the government is not party to every agreement. Everybody gets what he wants.

So I don't want to hear any more about "You hurt others by hurting the system, therefore you must abdicate individual agency completely and obey all government dictates without question or delay."

In b4 "But you'll get a better quality of care and that isn't fair!" Tread carefully now. You don't want to acknowledge that socialist systems produce crappier results.

[Primemuscle]

What happens to the people that need medical care but can’t afford to pay under your system?

Assuming Tapeworm lives in the U.S. everyone is entitled to medical care. Hospitals (the ER) cannot legally turn people away who cannot afford to pay. Which is why they sometimes end up treating non-emergency patients. There are a number of reasons an individual doctor can refuse to treat a patient, including inability to pay. 

In 2020, only 8.6% of the population did not have medical insurance, which is not the same as saying 8.6% couldn't afford to pay for healthcare. Some people 'self-insure'.  66.5% had private health insurance. Most of these are employment-based policies at 54%. About 10% buy their health coverage outright. The remaining 35% have some form of public or government provided health insurance; such as, Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-care, VA or CHAMPVA (also veterans).

Basically, there are a couple of ways in which the cost of healthcare insurance is covered. It's an employee benefit, which is part of what employers factor in the cost of personnel. Technically, if they didn't have to pay benefits, the could afford to pay employees a higher wage. A portion of Federal and State income tax goes to fund social services, including public healthcare insurance (people with high income tax, subsidize those who pay low income tax). Entrepreneurs buy private health insurance the cost of which is passed on to their customers.  So, no matter how you cut it, it is basically socialized medicine.

Do people with quality medical insurance get better healthcare? Absolutely. And, unlike countries with single payer medical insurance (socialized medicine) those with insurance are often treated more expediently and have full elective medical needs coverage (non emergency).   

[ProudVirgin69]

What happens to the healthy guy who keeps paying for his fat neighbor's heart attacks under the current system?

I'll make you a deal. Have a pobrecito system so no one is left out in the cold and I'll even chip in taxwise. In exchange, I and others are unencumbered in forming agreements with any service provider who wants our business, which is what naturally happens in the absence of government interference.

You get your socialist safety net but the government is not party to every agreement. Everybody gets what he wants.

So I don't want to hear any more about "You hurt others by hurting the system, therefore you must abdicate individual agency completely and obey all government dictates without question or delay."

In b4 "But you'll get a better quality of care and that isn't fair!" Tread carefully now. You don't want to acknowledge that socialist systems produce crappier results.

Americans pay more for their healthcare while suffering worse outcomes than most other Western countries.  You can’t credibly argue that the American healthcare system is good, personal ideology notwithstanding