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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2021, 05:27:49 PM »
A lot of my friend's kids are reaching the 15-20 age range.

It amazes me how weak and stupid they are.

My good friend's son is 18 and has never cut the grass or changed a tire before. Knows nothing outside of video games and movies.

Kind of scary.

Very scary.  I've been complaining for years about how we are raising a generation of sissies.  And that has nothing to do with being gay.  It's about treating masculinity like it's a bad thing.  Preventing kids from having to learn how to deal with stress and adversity.  Creating "safe spaces."  It's terrible.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2021, 05:30:07 PM »
Should that really be the standard though?  I understand the efficiency argument.  What about fairness?

Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.

It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.

Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.

Who's going to be the better pick?

Might not be the best example, but you get my point?

Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2021, 05:31:51 PM »
Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.

It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.

Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.

Who's going to be the better pick?

Might not be the best example, but you get my point?

Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?

I understand and I agree.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2021, 05:37:51 PM »
Very scary.  I've been complaining for years about how we are raising a generation of sissies.  And that has nothing to do with being gay.  It's about treating masculinity like it's a bad thing.  Preventing kids from having to learn how to deal with stress and adversity.  Creating "safe spaces."  It's terrible.

It's insane.

Stress and adversity are parts of life.

You learn to deal with it and move on.

It's crazy how dulled down Americans have become.

There is nothing wrong with being masculine.

My cousin has 3 boys and they live in the country of central Texas. They are raised like men and act like adults as teenagers. It's crazy how much differently they act. Very mature and proper. I'd hate to see them treated badly by our new weakened society of soy boys.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2021, 06:07:45 PM »
It's insane.

Stress and adversity are parts of life.

You learn to deal with it and move on.

It's crazy how dulled down Americans have become.

There is nothing wrong with being masculine.

My cousin has 3 boys and they live in the country of central Texas. They are raised like men and act like adults as teenagers. It's crazy how much differently they act. Very mature and proper. I'd hate to see them treated badly by our new weakened society of soy boys.

That's how it should be. 

But why you gotta bring up soy?  I'm a vegetarian.  lol   :)

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2021, 01:35:16 PM »
That's how it should be. 

But why you gotta bring up soy?  I'm a vegetarian.  lol   :)

LOL!

Just a point of reference.

I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2021, 02:32:05 PM »
LOL!

Just a point of reference.

I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D

It brings up one of the defects of the college system where kids go away for four years and hang around with no one except people their own age. When they come out, they don’t have experience  dealing with adults and as a result they’re still kids.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2021, 02:54:10 PM »
If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service. 

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2021, 03:50:17 PM »
If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service.


In Nigeria they chop-chop people like you  ;D

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2021, 03:51:24 PM »


In Nigeria they chop-chop people like you  ;D

Which has what to do with whether women are subject to the draft? Oh, nothing. Get over yourself.

Being as how you are obviously homophobic, you should definitely move to Nigeria where although there are gay people, most downplay it so, you should feel safe from "gay infection".  ::) ::)

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2021, 05:32:28 PM »
LOL!

Just a point of reference.

I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D

Oh definitely not.  I broke the mold with the whole vegetarian thing.  I don't look like the typical plant eater.   ;D

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2021, 05:33:45 PM »
If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service.

Good point about other countries with drafts and mandatory service for females. 

 

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2021, 06:02:00 PM »
Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.

It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.

Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.

Who's going to be the better pick?

Might not be the best example, but you get my point?

Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?

Urban Chicago kids would be way better at shooting people.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2021, 06:10:34 PM »
Urban Chicago kids would be way better at shooting people.

No they wouldn't.  They miss quite a bit.  Lots of collateral damage.  Their accuracy sucks.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2021, 07:29:06 PM »
No real man wants to see their daughters, or anyone else's, drafted, "fair" or not.

Fuck that.  We have to be better than the idiots out there.

For the women who want that life, and are qualified, they can volunteer.
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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2021, 08:02:22 PM »
No real man wants to see their daughters, or anyone else's, drafted, "fair" or not.

Fuck that.  We have to be better than the idiots out there.

For the women who want that life, and are qualified, they can volunteer.

I don't think it's fair to question someone's manhood over their position on this.  Reasonable minds can disagree.  I think there are good arguments on both sides.  And the fact they do this is in countries like Israel, who has a solid armed force, is telling.   

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2021, 04:50:31 AM »
If it is to go fight a fake war for the military industrial complex cartels then draft everyone equally.

If it is for a real defensive war then no because I'd actually care about us winning it.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2021, 07:59:04 AM »
Yes, since they want equality they should be drafted.

If we ever have a major war the draft will be resumed no question.

You would not be able to have a draft in 2021 no one would go everyone would say no. The world has changed. If you want soldiers you need to offer enough money to get people to volunteer

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2021, 08:01:56 AM »
I don't think it's fair to question someone's manhood over their position on this.  Reasonable minds can disagree.  I think there are good arguments on both sides.  And the fact they do this is in countries like Israel, who has a solid armed force, is telling.

Not directly aimed at you, but in general.

Israeli women are a different breed, and it's a small country.

Just not feasible across our country, and I don't see the benefit.

Yes, I'm being old school double standard-y here, but it's just how I feel.
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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2021, 10:45:17 AM »
No they wouldn't.  They miss quite a bit.  Lots of collateral damage.  Their accuracy sucks.
That's a good thing.  If they were highly trained it would be a bloodbath.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2021, 11:07:57 AM »
Not directly aimed at you, but in general.

Israeli women are a different breed, and it's a small country.

Just not feasible across our country, and I don't see the benefit.

Yes, I'm being old school double standard-y here, but it's just how I feel.

I didn't think you were attacking me and I don't take anything said on this board personally.

I don't fault you for having a strong opinion against women being drafted.  I posted this thread by asking the question because I wanted to hear different perspectives. 

Part of me thinks like you:  I don't want to see women forced onto the battlefield to fight wars started by men.  Part of me thinks it's a fairness issue and women should be subjected to the same standard as men, so long as they can meet the physical qualifications. 

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2021, 11:08:22 AM »
That's a good thing.  If they were highly trained it would be a bloodbath.

Right?

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2021, 12:02:31 PM »
Which has what to do with whether women are subject to the draft? Oh, nothing. Get over yourself.

Being as how you are obviously homophobic, you should definitely move to Nigeria where although there are gay people, most downplay it so, you should feel safe from "gay infection".  ::) ::)


Nah, just hate U !.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2021, 12:49:24 PM »

Nah, just hate U !.

How unfortunate for you. Hate is a strong emotion, save it for someone you actually know and have had a negative interaction with.

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Re: Should Women Be Subject To The Draft?
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2021, 01:56:12 PM »
Part of me thinks it's a fairness issue and women should be subjected to the same standard as men, so long as they can meet the physical qualifications.

I don't necessarily 100% disagree with this statement, moreso that the draft is a completely inefficient method to accomplish this, given the reasons I stated.

But if pushed, I would still stick to I don't really care about the "fair".

Men and women are just different, no matter how often we get blasted by the vocal blue haired twitter minority that they are the same at everything.
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