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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #425 on: July 13, 2024, 09:55:32 AM »
That's what I like about schools & colleges in the USA they like wrestling.


Well, it's very popular in high school in some states.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Iowa and the Central and Midwest are where it's big in high school.

Lots of colleges have dropped wrestling over the past 20 years.

I think it is down to maybe around 77 Div 1 schools.  Used to be hundreds.

They get only  9 scholarships per year (?) so they split them up so doing it to get your kid an athletic scholarship is foolish.

It's not a revenue sport.  Title 9 killed many programs.

Women's wrestling is now at a smattering of schools.  I don't think it will ever get popular but it may help restablish mens teams.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_wrestling_programs

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #426 on: July 14, 2024, 03:57:17 AM »
Well, it's very popular in high school in some states.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Iowa and the Central and Midwest are where it's big in high school.

Lots of colleges have dropped wrestling over the past 20 years.

I think it is down to maybe around 77 Div 1 schools.  Used to be hundreds.

They get only  9 scholarships per year (?) so they split them up so doing it to get your kid an athletic scholarship is foolish.

It's not a revenue sport.  Title 9 killed many programs.

Women's wrestling is now at a smattering of schools.  I don't think it will ever get popular but it may help restablish mens teams.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_wrestling_programs
Some of these College wrestlers are good.
Think if I was in a US school I would definitely go for the wrestling team.
I mean good grapplers are not just Japanese or Brazilian

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #427 on: July 14, 2024, 04:26:08 AM »
Some of these College wrestlers are good.
Think if I was in a US school I would definitely go for the wrestling team.
I mean good grapplers are not just Japanese or Brazilian

Some are good?  Any kid who starts in D-1 college is very good.  Even the D-2 and D-3 kids are very good.

Legit top D-1 guys are great.  They have been through the gauntlet.

Most all were State Champions or runners up and the better ones are multiple State Champions.

They will absolutely destroy you.

This is American Folkstyle not the stupid Freestyle or Greco in the Olympics (my opinion).

The wrestlers who became the early UFC champs were folkstyle guys.  Most of them also did freestyle but that was not their main style.

The best wrestlers most always come from public schools not private prep schools.

Public schools in the USA are not like the UK where the term has a different meaning.

Public schools in the USA are just that.  Taxpayer supported "free" public schools for all those residing in each particular district.

Wrestling for the serious begins as young as 5.  There are private wrestling clubs with excellent coaching.  Also highly competitive weekly tournaments that you take your kid to. 

These tournaments are not like bullshit martial arts tournaments.  They are not fun.  They are full on, vicious, high pressure, all out "kill or be killed", survival of the fittest competitions.

Some parents spend well over $10,000+ a year for training, equipment, travel and entry fees for their kid. Heck $10,000 was 20 years ago.  Now it's probably $20,000.

Many schools have wrestling teams starting in middle school (age 11-14).  High schools then have teams that compete in leagues ultimately leading to the state tournaments.

However, by the time a kid gets to high school, the best kids are already at a high level from their club experience.  The high school coach really doesn't have much to do with it.  Most of the top kids have won junior state championships at the club level and even competed nationally in freestyle.

The kids who start out wrestling in high school, with an occasional rare exception (who is usually in a heavy weight class), are cannon fodder for the experienced kids.

So that's how it works.




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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #428 on: July 15, 2024, 05:45:58 AM »
Some are good?  Any kid who starts in D-1 college is very good.  Even the D-2 and D-3 kids are very good.

Legit top D-1 guys are great.  They have been through the gauntlet.

Most all were State Champions or runners up and the better ones are multiple State Champions.

They will absolutely destroy you.

This is American Folkstyle not the stupid Freestyle or Greco in the Olympics (my opinion).

The wrestlers who became the early UFC champs were folkstyle guys.  Most of them also did freestyle but that was not their main style.

The best wrestlers most always come from public schools not private prep schools.

Public schools in the USA are not like the UK where the term has a different meaning.

Public schools in the USA are just that.  Taxpayer supported "free" public schools for all those residing in each particular district.

Wrestling for the serious begins as young as 5.  There are private wrestling clubs with excellent coaching.  Also highly competitive weekly tournaments that you take your kid to. 

These tournaments are not like bullshit martial arts tournaments.  They are not fun.  They are full on, vicious, high pressure, all out "kill or be killed", survival of the fittest competitions.

Some parents spend well over $10,000+ a year for training, equipment, travel and entry fees for their kid. Heck $10,000 was 20 years ago.  Now it's probably $20,000.

Many schools have wrestling teams starting in middle school (age 11-14).  High schools then have teams that compete in leagues ultimately leading to the state tournaments.

However, by the time a kid gets to high school, the best kids are already at a high level from their club experience.  The high school coach really doesn't have much to do with it.  Most of the top kids have won junior state championships at the club level and even competed nationally in freestyle.

The kids who start out wrestling in high school, with an occasional rare exception (who is usually in a heavy weight class), are cannon fodder for the experienced kids.

So that's how it works.
[This is American Folkstyle not the stupid Freestyle or Greco in the Olympics (my opinion).]
Ok but when people reach Olympic status then they're sponsered & must have skills.

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #429 on: July 15, 2024, 05:51:26 AM »
Bear with me ...using my phone  :)

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #430 on: July 15, 2024, 01:55:48 PM »
[This is American Folkstyle not the stupid Freestyle or Greco in the Olympics (my opinion).]
Ok but when people reach Olympic status then they're sponsered & must have skills.

Oh, definitely.  They are great.

The Olympics ruin sports I think.

Freestyle and Greco wrestling are not popular in the USA.

USA Wrestling organization puts on tournaments but they are not widely attended except for Nationals.

My son did a freestyle tournament once in Pennsylvania having never wrestled freestyle.

He was losing 11-0 in his first match when he pinned the other kid.  He went on to win his weight class in the tournament.

I think it's a silly style.  Folkstyle is a much more physically dominating style.



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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #431 on: July 21, 2024, 09:52:00 AM »
He's 100% correct about the hand position.
I always went for a high grip on the collar
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #432 on: July 21, 2024, 11:12:15 AM »
Donny,
Since you have an interest in judo I would highly recommend this book.
Ben Nighthorse Campbell was an accomplished judo player and there is a lot in this book about it.
Of particular interest is his training in Japan.

I read it many years ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Ben-Nighthorse-Campbell-American-Warrior/dp/0517596520#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #433 on: July 22, 2024, 12:04:38 AM »
On the subject of wrestling, I find Sambo very interesting & especially the military system
https://evolve-mma.com/blog/the-history-and-origins-of-sambo/

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #434 on: July 28, 2024, 06:26:52 AM »
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #435 on: July 31, 2024, 04:32:37 AM »
Not sure if I posted this  ;D

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #436 on: August 05, 2024, 02:00:03 AM »
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #437 on: August 05, 2024, 06:27:00 AM »
Cool vid.^

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #438 on: August 05, 2024, 07:24:57 AM »
Cool vid.^
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #439 on: September 27, 2024, 11:52:21 PM »
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #440 on: October 02, 2024, 03:21:03 AM »
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #441 on: October 03, 2024, 12:01:24 PM »

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #442 on: October 04, 2024, 02:28:32 AM »
Heart check up this morning & they went into an artery on my upper leg.
Got to lie on my back for 4 hours...
The clock is fucking right in front of me !  ;D
Everything is fine though.


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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #443 on: October 05, 2024, 05:50:41 AM »
Heart check up this morning & they went into an artery on my upper leg.
Got to lie on my back for 4 hours...
The clock is fucking right in front of me !  ;D
Everything is fine though.



Glad to hear things are ok.

That's a pretty invasive operation.

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #444 on: October 05, 2024, 05:59:54 AM »
Glad to hear things are ok.

That's a pretty invasive operation.
Thanks .. well itīs a fairly routine check up but itīs a pain in the ass & yes they are pretty invasive in that they travel through your artery.
No sedative needed though as you donīt feel the operation except for the initial entry.
Closing the artery or the end procedure can be a bit painful but i have been walking around today no problem.
showered this morning took the dressing off ..no problem  :)

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #445 on: October 05, 2024, 11:43:46 PM »
Sunday morning bike ride is out today...I'll wait a few days.
Better be sensible 🤪

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #446 on: October 09, 2024, 09:32:39 AM »
Tomiki Aikido has always interested me.
Very hard to find where I live but very popular in the UK.
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #447 on: October 12, 2024, 07:54:15 AM »
A fighter I always liked.
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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #448 on: October 13, 2024, 03:03:41 AM »
I liked the animal grunts at the beginning..😂

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Re: Aiki Budo
« Reply #449 on: October 16, 2024, 05:03:56 AM »
The big guy would be a good bouncer. ^