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The simple fact is the media was trying to make this out to be about Obama, just look at the questions they were asking.

240 never misses a chance to try to make it about Bush, 911, Sarah, or Fox News to deflect from his messiah worship of Obama.

The CNN clip I posted was xlear as day - the reporter asked directly about obama - and they said the same exact thing as Ferguson said - Obama is a disjointed incoherent mess and did not do a damn thing to spur this on, and if anything showed support for Mubarak over them.   

But don't let reality get in the way of 240 or the others worshipping obama.   
   


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Yeah - fucking brilliant strategy   ::)  ::)  ::)

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U.S. Had Year of Warnings Over Egypt
WSJ ^ | 2/16/2011 | Jay Solomon


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WASHINGTON—Early last year, a group of U.S.-based human-rights activists, neoconservative policy makers and Mideast experts told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that what passed for calm in Egypt was an illusion.

"If the opportunity to reform is missed, prospects for stability and prosperity in Egypt will be in doubt," read their April 2010 letter.

The correspondence was part of a string of warnings passed to the Obama administration arguing that Egypt, heading toward crisis, required a vigorous U.S. response. Hosni Mubarak, Egypt's 82-year-old dictator, was moving to rig a string of elections, they said. Egypt's young population was growing more agitated.

The bipartisan body that wrote to Mrs. Clinton, the Egypt Working Group, argued that the administration wasn't fully appraising the warning signs in Egypt. Its members came together in early 2010, concerned that the Arab world's biggest country was headed for transition but that the U.S. and others weren't preparing for a post-Mubarak era.

The Cairo uprising has so far had a more orderly outcome, and one better for U.S. interests, than might have been the case. But the U.S.'s hesitant initial embrace of the revolt could reverberate as a democratic wave surges across the Arab world. The U.S. at first alienated protesters—and then alienated the Mubarak regime, a longtime ally, sparking concern from other regional friends.


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Ha ha ha - CNN begged a street protestor to praise Obama nd even the street protestor said Obama is  complete joke and failure. 

But oh that's right - andreisadildo, TA, benny, and the rest of the obama Jim Jones cult know better.    ::)  ::)

Audio at site of protestor claiming Obama has no policy at all and is a conflicting mess of empty statements and had NOTHING to d with anything.   


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Dji6Th1fysgJ:www.eyeblast.tv/Public/checker.aspx%3Fv%3DhdqGSUSUqG+nic+robertson+obama+egypt&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com




HEHEHEH! No one can spin it better than the liberal media.

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240 never misses a chance to try to make it about Bush, 911, Sarah, or Fox News to deflect from his messiah worship of Obama.

The CNN clip I posted was xlear as day - the reporter asked directly about obama - and they said the same exact thing as Ferguson said - Obama is a disjointed incoherent mess and did not do a damn thing to spur this on, and if anything showed support for Mubarak over them.  

But don't let reality get in the way of 240 or the others worshipping obama.  
  


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Victor Davis Hanson: A New America in a New World Order
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | February 16, 2011 | Victor Davis Hanson


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A New America in a New World Order
Obama's vision of sameness — at home, equality of result; abroad, all nations equal — carries an appalling price tag.



The year is quite young, and yet it has already seen a multitude of disturbing events and trends — unrest in Cairo and North Africa; nuclearization in Iran; a growing anti-American alliance among Turkey, Hezbollah, Iran, and Syria; the expansionary designs of a newly unabashed China with attendant repercussions on Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan; calls for the end of the dollar as the global currency; the muscle flexing from an “I can’t believe my good luck” Russia; and the tottering of the European Union. I have no idea how most Americans react to any of the above, and I don’t think the administration has either.

We do know that President Obama wants to borrow another $1.6 trillion this year to ensure expansion of EU-like entitlements. One mystery is why the Chinese — 400 million of whom have never encountered Western-style medicine — apparently won’t mind lending us more of their hundreds of billions of dollars in surpluses to fund Obamacare. Another is why people should risk their environments in Africa, the Russian Arctic, and Asian coastal waters to provide petroleum for a thirsty planet, while we will not take much smaller risks to satisfy our own voracious oil appetite. The only common denominator is our desire to consume more than we produce.

Yet the impending crises on the horizon — so reminiscent of the annus horribilis of 1979, when the wages of another American president’s sermonizing and economic weakness came due — are not foreordained to come at America’s expense. Were we to put our financial house in order, slash our deficits, show the world how we intend to pay down our $14 trillion debt, and make the needed long-term reforms to Social Security and Medicare, the United States would be in a unique position in comparison to an ailing and sclerotic Europe, a demographically challenged Japan, and a China with a rendezvous with social tension, environmental catastrophe, and a warped demography. We are still a more open and transparent society than our rivals — with a more meritocratic ethos, far greater social and political stability, and blessed with vast natural and human resources. Why, then, cannot we regain our exceptionalism?

In a word, I think we do not wish to. The problem — aside from the fact that we are a country obsessed with wrangling over distribution of old wealth (much of it provided by previous generations) rather than creation of new national riches — is that the United States does not quite know what its role should be in yet another new world order.

Hence, President Obama was a day late and a dollar short in figuring out both the Tehran 2009 and the Cairo 2011 protests. Like a modern-day Hamlet, he paused to examine every imaginable consequence before doing nothing — as in “Should I criticize Ahmadinejad when I promised in landmark fashion to meet face to face with the Iranians? Where is the U.N. in all of this? If I encourage the protesters, am I interfering in the internal affairs of Iran — the way America did a half century ago, for which I just apologized? If I support democratic reform, will I appear no different from a Bush neocon? Will Mubarak survive or will he not? Should he, or should he not? Are the protesters authentic Egyptians or Westernized upper middle classes without Third World bona fides? Are they Kerensky types about to be swallowed up by hard-core Islamists? Could my own unique heritage not appeal to the Muslim Brotherhood as I was hoping it would when I reached out to Iran and Syria? If I pressure Mubarak, will the Right ask why I did not pressure Ahmadinejad? If I do not, will the Left accuse me of realpolitik? Isn’t Bush at fault somewhere here?” So many questions, so many occasions to vote present.

The reset “I’m not Bush” Pavlovian foreign policy is in shambles. There comes a moment in which a trivial event finally distills chaos into clarity. In the Obama administration’s case, it was the description of the Muslim Brotherhood by the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, who just assured Capitol Hill that the Brotherhood was “largely secular” and has “eschewed violence.” Keep that inanity in mind, and almost everything else becomes clear. Add “Muslim” to “Brotherhood” and these days you get “largely secular.”

The euphemisms for terrorism have become a late-night-show running joke; more, not fewer, terrorist plots directed at the U.S. have answered Obama’s Muslim outreach efforts. It is by now about as likely that Eric Holder will try KSM in a New York federal court as that Obama himself will close down Guantanamo, which he earlier described as “a tremendous recruiting tool for al-Qaeda.” The one Obama success (in Joe Biden’s words, the administration’s “greatest achievement”) was a still-constitutional Iraq — only because Obama dropped his own campaign promises on unilateral withdrawals and stuck to the Bush-Petraeus departure plans.

A strengthened U.S. role in the U.N. has come to nothing. Did we gain anything by humiliating Israel in 2009? Are Venezuela and its axis moderating their efforts to turn Latin America into a Marxist utopia? Has America ever before joined Mexico — or any other foreign government –  in efforts to sue one of its own states that simply wanted federal law enforced? Was Russia really all that eager to help an appeasing U.S. diplomatically? When the U.S. provided serial numbers of British nuclear weapons to Putin’s Russia, and when Europeans like Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy have to lecture the West about the failures of multiculturalism, we are reminded that the Europeans should have been careful of what they so loudly wished for during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Are we inept or calculating in piling up over $4 trillion in debt in just 36 months and lowering America’s global profile? If the goal of the present American administration is to turn the United States into something envisioned on university campuses, the editorial page of the New York Times, and breezy synopses on NPR, then it is right on schedule. But what would that new America look like?

An enormous public sector, guided by an elite European-like technocracy overseeing henchmen in public unions, would ensure spread-the-wealth redistribution, more regulation, and an ideology of equality of result that reminds us that at some point (the new financial Mason-Dixon line of $250,000 in annual income?), we have made enough money at someone else’s expense. Abroad, it might mean a new America analogous to France or Germany, which from time to time would chest-pound about current crises, but would risk nothing while calibrating the post-facto humanitarian rhetoric to match realities on the ground.

In sum, just as we are to be all equal at home, so abroad all nations are to be equal as well — if not by fiat, at least by wish. Sameness, here and abroad — that is the new national aspiration.

— NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the editor of Makers of Ancient Strategy: From the Persian Wars to the Fall of Rome, and the author of The Father of Us All: War and History, Ancient and Modern.

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Obama didnt handle shit.  Please, you fools are desperate to latch on to anything, just anything, to make this collosal failure look good. 

Every single thing this faux messiah has touched has gotten far worse. 



OK..so you calling Boehner a liar???

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Yes.

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Changing your opinion up to 2x a day does not equal handing a crisis well. Boehner is as big of a douche as Obama is.

Obama handled this entire event like the novice, inexperienced moron that he is. It was truly embarrassing.


I like how when Boehner is ripping Obama a new asshole everyone quotes him and says he's right././.now that he's saying Obama did something right and is a citizen, NOW all of a sudden he doesn't know what he is talking about and you guys rip into him..WOW..can't you guys see the hypocrisy in yourselves?????

AMAZING!!!!!!!

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Bohner is not our spokesperson.

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I like how when Boehner is ripping Obama a new asshole everyone quotes him and says he's right././.now that he's saying Obama did something right and is a citizen, NOW all of a sudden he doesn't know what he is talking about and you guys rip into him..WOW..can't you guys see the hypocrisy in yourselves?????

AMAZING!!!!!!!

Our hypocrisy? Since when has Boehner ever spoken for me? I dislike that c*nt as much as I dislike Obama's suicidal economic policies. And pot meet kettle. You clowns attack him at all times and then the one time he agrees with the Messiah, he's apparently worth listening to.  ::)

It is DOCUMENTED that Obama and his cronies were flip-flopping up to 2x a DAY on the Egypt crisis. They handled it so poorly it's embarrassing. Was once again amateur hour on the foreign policy stage.


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Boehner on his own is a clown - but compared to pelosi he is a n
Major improvment.

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Our hypocrisy? Since when has Boehner ever spoken for me? I dislike that c*nt as much as I dislike Obama's suicidal economic policies. And pot meet kettle. You clowns attack him at all times and then the one time he agrees with the Messiah, he's apparently worth listening to.  ::)

It is DOCUMENTED that Obama and his cronies were flip-flopping up to 2x a DAY on the Egypt crisis. They handled it so poorly it's embarrassing. Was once again amateur hour on the foreign policy stage.



Mubarak has to go NOW, no no no, He can stay for another six months.

Then, The Muslim Brotherhood is "largely secular", no no no, I meant they're religious but they work sort of secular.

And, the hits keep coming.

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Obama took a trip to bangladesh with his dog and spent  $14,098,923,763,923.97 of taxpayer money according to MSNBC

Obamacare will cost 6,900,159,719 jobs in America alone according to CNN



Obama is ruining the world and these facts prove it.

LMAO...finally some sanity on here

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CBO already said Obamacare will cost 800,000 jobs. 

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CBO already said Obamacare will cost 800,000 jobs. 

But when they said it was defecit neutral you said bullshit.. the same department says its bad.. and now they are authentic...

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When will people realize that Obamacare has been ruled unconstitutional, no longer the law, unless the SC otherwise.
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CBO already said Obamacare will cost 800,000 jobs. 

CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf told the House Budget Committee on Thursday that the health care law will reduce employment by 0.5 percent by 2021 because some people will no longer have to work just to afford health insurance.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49273.html#ixzz1EEVOEdSb

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 ::)  ::)   - great more people on the doll collecting welfare and a smaller laborpool to pay the taxes.  Just what you libs want.   

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::)  ::)   - great more people on the doll collecting welfare and a smaller laborpool to pay the taxes.  Just what you libs want.  

or in reality

people who can choose to leave their job or work less because affordable health care is not tied to their job

I think if you took the time to learn more about these things you wouldn't have to live in a constant state of panic

just some friendly advice

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or in reality

people who can choose to leave their job or work less because affordable health care is not tied to their job

I think if you took the time to learn more about these things you wouldn't have to live is a constant state of panic

just from friendly advice


Hey stupid - who is goig to pay all the taxes to support the baby boomers if less people are working and more are on welfare? 

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Hey stupid - who is goig to pay all the taxes to support the baby boomers if less people are working and more are on welfare? 

OMG - great point - we need to keep these people indentured to their employer by virtue of health care so they can continue to pay taxes

OMG - let's start panicking now !!!!


CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf told the House Budget Committee on Thursday that the health care law will reduce employment by 0.5 percent by 2021 because some people will no longer have to work just to afford health insurance.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49273.html#ixzz1EEVOEdSb

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Just great - so let these people stay home and stick others w the tab.  Fucking brilliant economics right there.

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Just great - so let these people stay home and stick others w the tab.  Fucking brilliant economics right there.

how are they going to stick others with any tab

they still have to pay for their health insurance

they just don't have to continue working in order to get access to affordable insurance

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They will be getting subsidy checks from the gubmint. 

Again - you support a policy you don't even know how it works. 

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They will be getting subsidy checks from the gubmint. 

Again - you support a policy you don't even know how it works. 

you don't know that at all

some may qualify for a subsidy but so what

maybe they are so fucking sick that they need to stay home

we're talking about a projected .5% of the workforce and by the year 2021

won't we be "collapsed" by then anyway?