Question for God people

[Man of Steel]

the gh 15 bible made far more sense than either of those

Have you studied the bible beyond a once over, surface reading of it?

[gracie bjj]

we want u to join us

[Man of Steel]

I thought you were done participating in these inane threads?

I'm done speaking to certain people and I have considered leaving the site on a couple of occasions. 

I'll continue to share my faith for the rest of my life.

[anabolichalo]

Have you studied the bible beyond a once over, surface reading of it?

you should study some basic science perhaps

far more useful than reading ancient jewish fairy tales

[Man of Steel]

you should study some basic science perhaps

far more useful than reading ancient jewish fairy tales

I've taken university level biology, chemistry, physics, genetics, organic chemistry and geology.  Today I prefer theology.

[Man of Steel]

Good for you. I happen to think you're a little off because of your belief in Christianity but everybody's got their issues so more power to you.

Thanks.  Many people do and some people don't. 

I share my faith for those that want to know the risen God.  I'm not here to convince staunch atheists or soft agnostics to give their lives to Christ.  I accept that their choices are made.  I share my faith for those reading and not posting.

[anabolichalo]

I've taken university level biology, chemistry, physics, genetics, organic chemistry and geology.  Today I prefer theology.

then you should know your book of fairy tales is full of impossible bullshit

magically walking on water


magically turning water into wine


magically curing a blind man's eye sight


etc


 

[Fortress]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
 
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

~ Epicurus

[Man of Steel]

then you should know your book of fairy tales is full of impossible bullshit

It is full of many things I consider impossible and unable to do, but Jesus Christ revealing the reality of himself to me because of my faith washes my doubt away.....my faith is rock solid. 

I believe an infinite, transcendent God can make seemingly impossible circumstances possible. 

What kind of God would he be if he couldn't transcend our thoughts and abilities?

[anabolichalo]

It is full of many things I consider impossible and unable to do, but Jesus Christ revealing the reality of himself to me because of my faith washes my doubt away.....my faith is rock solid. 

I believe an infinite, transcendent God can make seemingly impossible circumstances possible. 

What kind of God would he be if he couldn't transcend our thoughts and abilities?

you should stop smoking crack

[Man of Steel]

you should stop smoking crack

you shold stop with the ad hominem attacks, but if you must persist then you must.

[anabolichalo]

you shold stop with the ad hominem attacks

[gracie bjj]

heres my biggest beef,jesus was scene walking on water, doin this n doin that with miracles yet he cant help a little kid at st judes cancer hospital thats suffering and the kid didnt sin or do anything wrong,trust me i used to b into the bible bigtime but not no more

[anabolichalo]

it's so funny that people in the civilized world in 2014 still not realize what religion is for and about


silly

[Radical Plato]

Our sin brings upon mankind decay, disease and death.

Why would a GOD design life in such a way?  So GOD created us imperfect so he could punish us with decay, disease and death.  Sounds like a terrific guy. 

[gracie bjj]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
 
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

~ Epicurus

that about sums it up imo, nonething else to b said cause them few words say it all

[bigmc]

How do you know that?

how do you know it isn't

the certainty you have is based in faith not fact

I respect your beliefs

but that is all they are

the great thing about your religion is you don't need proof

as long as you believe these stories are facts to you

religion can be the rock in the storm

but it can also close your mind to the uncertainty of it all

[gracie bjj]

how do you know it isn't

the certainty you have is based in faith not fact

I respect your beliefs

but that is all they are

the great thing about your religion is you don't need proof

as long as you believe these stories are facts to you

religion can be the rock in the storm

but it can also close your mind to the uncertainty of it all

i agree,alot of religious people r closed minded and refuse to talk or listen to other peoples faiths or beliefs. in fact most people that talk about god dont even know the bible that good,kinda like a science teacher who never studied science but tries to teach it ive been stuidying the bible from 1980 to about 2005 n know it inside and out(25yrs)

[Tapeworm]

Conduct is more important than belief.  Think whatever you want, don't be a dick.

[gracie bjj]

Conduct is more important than belief.  Think whatever you want, don't be a dick.

very true,ive seen people who call themselves catholics and christians act like total jerk offs and ive seen people who have no religion act really nice n respectful to people,i rather hang out with a cool non believer than a judgemental asshole believer

[Man of Steel]

the certainty you have is based in faith not fact

how do you know that?  I share the fact of my experiences with others and most toss it away with a snort of derision.  I am part of the collective proof.

most demand very specific proof of what I'm saying.  I can't reproduce a transcendent, divine experience given only to me....how would I do that?  

I can certainly lead others to God so that they can experience their own revelations of his reality.

at this point I typically get the canned "I feel sorry you" or "you make me sick" or "you're mentally ill".....insert whatever canned ad hominem.

I'm under no delusion I can convince even a single atheist on this board of what I've experienced in Christ, but they're not who I'm speaking to....they're just the only ones posting.  So I'm polite and discuss where discussion is temporarily allowed.  

The folks that what to know the risen Christ seek him out proactively because their hearts yearn for him....some come to me privately for help and I help where I can.

[Man of Steel]

very true,ive seen people who call themselves catholics and christians act like total jerk offs and ive seen people who have no religion act really nice n respectful to people,i rather hang out with a cool non believer than a judgemental asshole believer

I never attack anyone and get attacked all the time....have been in this very thread.

[bigmc]

how do you know that?

through intelligent interrogation of the evidence

show me the facts that support your belief

I would love to be converted

that certainty must be a great anchor in your life

[Man of Steel]

through intelligent interrogation of the evidence

show me the facts that support your belief

I would love to be converted

that certainty must be a great anchor in your life

having the certainty of Christ's existence revealed via the tangible presence of the Holy Spirit is everything in my life.  makes scripture come alive and validates his resurrection.  

unfortunately the heartfelt sincerity of my words and genuine desire for others to experience the same as I have is chalked up to nothingness.....I can't overcome that.

there is no test tube or laboratory experiment that will allow me to bottle God.  He's stands beyond us....he is the law and given that we must abide by his standards and come to him in humility and surrender and faith.  my faith did begin with a leap, but it's now rock solid....I have full assurance in the heart now.  it's a more mature faith because of my experiences with the divine and nothing can take those experiences from me.  all I can do is share them with others and answer questions as honestly and fully as I'm able to.  

if you truly desire to know God....I mean sincerely want to know him then I suggest starting with a simple prayer.  as I've stated previously knowing God involves surrender to his will for your life.

[bigmc]

having the certainty of Christ's existence revealed via the tangible presence of the Holy Spirit is everything in my life.  makes scripture come alive and validates his resurrection.  

unfortunately the heartfelt sincerity of my words and genuine desire for others to experience the same as I have is chalked up to nothingness.....I can't overcome that.

there is no test tube or laboratory experiment that will allow me to bottle God.  He's stands beyond us....he is the law and given that we must abide by his standards and come to him in humility and surrender and faith.  my faith did begin with a leap, but it's now rock solid....I have full assurance in the heart now.  it's a more mature faith because of my experiences with the divine and nothing can take those experiences from me.  all I can do is share them with others and answer questions as honestly and fully as I'm able to.  

if you truly desire to know God....I mean sincerely want to know him then I suggest starting with a simple prayer.  as I've stated previously knowing God involves surrender to his will for your life.

so we are back to my original point

it basically requires belief

which I cant seem to find

It is what it is