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Incase anyone is interested in what was said...
Saddam (as the noose is put around his neck): Ya Allah (Oh God).
Someone in the audience: Mercy be on those who pray for Mohammed and the household of Muhammed (Everyone repeats the prayer, including Saddam) -
Executioner and two people in the audience: And hasten his return (the Mahdi), curse his enemy and grant victory to his son, Muqtada, Muqtada, Muqtada! (This is a common Sadrist chant.)
Saddam (smirking): Muqtada?
NSA Muwafaq Al-Rubai'i: To Hell!
Saddam: (laughing)
Prosecutor Munqidh Al-Far'awn: Please, no.
Muwafaq Al-Rubi'i: Long live Mohammed Baqir Al-Sadr!
Someone in the audience: To Hell!
Saddam (solemnly recites the Shahada prayer): I witness that there is no god but Allah, and that Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. I witness that there is no god but Allah, and that Mohammed is the- (trap door is opened).
Audience: Prayers for Mohammed and the household of Muhammed.
Someone: The tyrant has fell. May Allah's curse be upon him.
Someone: No. No. Stay back.
Someone: Leave him for 8 minutes. Don't take him down.
Someone: Everyone. Stay back.
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I generally don't take pleasure in someone's death, but I'm glad he's gone. I felt the same way about Timothy McVeigh. It took a long time for justice to catch up to Saddam, but the Iraqi people finally held him accountable. Good riddance.
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I generally don't take pleasure in someone's death, but I'm glad he's gone. I felt the same way about Timothy McVeigh. It took a long time for justice to catch up to Saddam, but the Iraqi people finally held him accountable. Good riddance.
You do know that two of the ten witnesses said that McVeigh was still breathing when they pulled the curtain back, don't you?
But hell, I guess it's completely normal for 20% of the execution witnesses to say the guy is still breathing, eh? ;)
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You do know that two of the ten witnesses said that McVeigh was still breathing when they pulled the curtain back, don't you?
But hell, I guess it's completely normal for 20% of the execution witnesses to say the guy is still breathing, eh? ;)
You are a nut.
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You are a nut.
Were those two witnesses wrong, beach bum?
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Saddam hanging taunts evoke ugly past
By John Simpson
World affairs editor, BBC News, Baghdad
A few hours after Saddam Hussein's execution, the Iraqi government put out a videotape of what had happened.
There was no sound on the tape, and it ended at the point where the executioners put the rope around his neck.
It all seemed weirdly calm and dignified.
Not so. One of the witnesses managed to get a mobile phone into the execution chamber, and recorded the entire event, from the time when Saddam is brought into the chamber, his hands and feet shackled, to the moment when his body is hanging lifeless at the end of the rope.
It is shocking, of course. But the most shocking thing about it is the sound.
Far from being a quiet and dignified business, the new video shows that several of the witnesses taunted Saddam during the last seconds of his life, chanted the name of one of his many enemies, and told him he was going to hell.
Ugly affair
Altogether, the execution as we now see it is shown to be an ugly, degrading business, which is more reminiscent of a public hanging in the 18th Century than a considered act of 21st Century official justice.
The most disturbing thing about the new video of Saddam's execution for crimes precisely like this, is that it is all much too reminiscent of what used to happen here
The key passage on the video-tape comes after the official version was cut off.
As Saddam stands there on the trapdoor, with the noose being tightened around his neck by one of the four executioners, their faces covered by balaclavas, the shouting starts up among the group of official witnesses.
At first you can hear a Shia version of an Islamic prayer being called out.
Saddam Hussein was, of course, a Sunni Muslim, and all this was unquestionably intended as a sectarian insult.
Then the same voice starts calling out the name of the leading Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. Sadr, the formal leader of the Mehdi Army, was an open enemy of Saddam.
Saddam is not intimidated by any of this, and repeats Moqtada Sadr's name disdainfully, as if to say he doesn't count for very much.
Then his gruff, rasping voice can be heard saying to the onlookers "Is this manly behaviour?"
But someone calls out "You're going to hell."
One of the witnesses, concerned about all this, says "Keep quiet - he's just about to die."
Shocked
Saddam Hussein scarcely has an instant to collect his thoughts. He starts to mutter a prayer, but just as he speaks the name Muhammad, the chief hangman pulls the lever and the trapdoor opens.
With terrible, shocking force, Saddam's body plunges into the drop.
His death must have been virtually instantaneous.
The next image shows him hanging, clearly dead.
Even the onlookers sound shocked as they chant their prayers.
It is going to be increasingly difficult for the government of Nouri Maliki to convince Sunni Arabs here that Saddam's execution was not merely an act of retaliation.
Walking round in Baghdad this evening, as people hurried home in the black-out to celebrate their New Year's Eve in the security of their own homes, it seemed that everyone knew all about the new video.
The people I spoke to, who seemed to be Sunni Muslims, were shocked by it.
They also appeared to be distinctly nervous that the video would sharpen the already serious sectarian divide here.
Under Saddam Hussein, prisoners were regularly taunted and mistreated in their last hours. For many of them, death must have come as a relief.
But the most disturbing thing about the new video of Saddam's execution for crimes precisely like this, is that it is all much too reminiscent of what used to happen here.
It is going to be increasingly difficult for the government of Nouri Maliki to convince Sunni Arabs here that Saddam's execution was not merely an act of retaliation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6221751.stm
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Were those two witnesses wrong, beach bum?
And not a very smart nut to boot. ::) But you do provide good entertainment.
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You are a nut.
You got your boots BB? I've got hunting waders on for this one. LOL
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OK Danimal...
LOL
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OK Danimal...
LOL
Oh I'm shaking in my waders from that one.. LOL ha ha.
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haha ;D
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And not a very smart nut to boot. ::) But you do provide good entertainment.
this coming from the high school dropout? nice!
your good friend mcveigh was still in the military fifteen months after the fbi/army said he was discharged. he was videotaped and even interviewed working in N Dakota on an army base, special ops explosives.
now I know you consider yourself smarter than me, so ya care to tackle how that one works? Until then, you're a dropout with no answer.
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You got your boots BB? I've got hunting waders on for this one. LOL
I got my boots. ;D This kid is a riot. Not just 911, but the moon conspiracy, Oklahoma City, McVeigh still alive. . . . I just watched Conspiracy Theory (again) with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts. Reminded me of 240. He probably hears voices too. ;D
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I got my boots. ;D This kid is a riot. Not just 911, but the moon conspiracy, Oklahoma City, McVeigh still alive. . . . I just watched Conspiracy Theory (again) with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts. Reminded me of 240. He probably hears voices too. ;D
No, I'm a perfectly sane guy. however, I realize that when something happens, and it isn't investigated according to protocol, it raises flags. Did you know that the Ok City federal building was bulldozed a few days afterward? No investigation, nothing. The company Controlled Demolition (you know, the same firm which cleaned up the WTC) just flattened the place.
The FBI is being reprimanded now because it's just coming out what a horrible cover-up investigation they did. This one was on Clinton's watch, so you don't have to get defensive about Bush.
Seriously BB, I challenge you to come right out and say that the OK city bombing was committed by only McVeign and Nicholls. I fucking dare you. Cause once you do, I will demolish your argument with solid evidence of a conspiracy. And if you DON'T tell me it was only them two, then hell, you believe it was a conspiracy.
Which is it, beachy? Did Mcveigh/Nicholls act alone, or not?
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No, I'm a perfectly sane guy. however, I realize that when something happens, and it isn't investigated according to protocol, it raises flags. Did you know that the Ok City federal building was bulldozed a few days afterward? No investigation, nothing. The company Controlled Demolition (you know, the same firm which cleaned up the WTC) just flattened the place.
The FBI is being reprimanded now because it's just coming out what a horrible cover-up investigation they did. This one was on Clinton's watch, so you don't have to get defensive about Bush.
Seriously BB, I challenge you to come right out and say that the OK city bombing was committed by only McVeign and Nicholls. I fucking dare you. Cause once you do, I will demolish your argument with solid evidence of a conspiracy. And if you DON'T tell me it was only them two, then hell, you believe it was a conspiracy.
Which is it, beachy? Did Mcveigh/Nicholls act alone, or not?
It's impossible for them to be able to pull that off without help from somewhere. But that doesn't mean they weren't directly responsible. They were members of radical militias and right wing psychos. They had to have been supplied the materials to make the explosives.
What's your fucking point? They're still the ones that did it. Period. Or did Bush do this one too? LOL
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It's impossible for them to be able to pull that off without help from somewhere. But that doesn't mean they weren't directly responsible. They were members of radical militias and right wing psychos. They had to have been supplied the materials to make the explosives.
What's your fucking point? They're still the ones that did it. Period. Or did Bush do this one too? LOL
Brix, recently a documentary came out in which McVeigh was videotaped/interviewed working at a military base in N Dakota, FIFTEEN MONTHS after the Army/FBI said he was discharged. They were interviewing special ops explosives teams and he was working with them. He said a few words, then covered his face and left.
What do you think this means? Why would the FBI/Army lie to us about his being enlisted so long after they said he was done? (if you believe it was an inside job, then he was still enlisted and was the fall guy in a military operation). If you don't believe it's an inside job, can you explain them lying? They stated on the record they had no clue where he was during that time.
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It's impossible for them to be able to pull that off without help from somewhere. But that doesn't mean they weren't directly responsible. They were members of radical militias and right wing psychos. They had to have been supplied the materials to make the explosives.
What's your fucking point? They're still the ones that did it. Period. Or did Bush do this one too? LOL
Bush didn't "do" 911 just like Clinton didn't "do" OK city. It's above their head. People don't see that. The last president to oppose the military ind. complex and CIA was JFK. Not a happy ending.
Brix, there are fema documents, media recounts, and public official statements detailing the 3rd and 4th bombs being removed from the building. Then, they disappeared from the record. how does one explain this?
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OK Danimal...
LOL
Fear yogurt boy :o
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Brix, recently a documentary came out in which McVeigh was videotaped/interviewed working at a military base in N Dakota, FIFTEEN MONTHS after the Army/FBI said he was discharged. They were interviewing special ops explosives teams and he was working with them. He said a few words, then covered his face and left.
What do you think this means? Why would the FBI/Army lie to us about his being enlisted so long after they said he was done? (if you believe it was an inside job, then he was still enlisted and was the fall guy in a military operation). If you don't believe it's an inside job, can you explain them lying? They stated on the record they had no clue where he was during that time.
More from your CT sources? Great. Lemme see a link so I can see what you see.
I don't believe it for one second unless he was working as a contractor/consultant or simple there as an observer or friend of one of the people in charge.
I see another case of CT's not having answers to questions so you guys come up with your own explainations to fit an idea of conspiracy and wrong doing.
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Bush didn't "do" 911 just like Clinton didn't "do" OK city. It's above their head. People don't see that. The last president to oppose the military ind. complex and CIA was JFK. Not a happy ending.
Above thier head? Yeah right. The CIA was behind it now? You are an absolute lunatic.
Brix, there are fema documents, media recounts, and public official statements detailing the 3rd and 4th bombs being removed from the building. Then, they disappeared from the record. how does one explain this?
Sources please
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brix... they didn't know he was working one their bases in his army greens?
he might have been a contractor? lol...
Tell me this... If I show you a video clip of McVeign interviewed briefly FIFTEEN months after they said on record that hew as discharged, will anything change for you? Or will you just invent a reason and ignore it?
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brix... they didn't know he was working one their bases in his army greens?
he might have been a contractor? lol...
Tell me this... If I show you a video clip of McVeign interviewed briefly FIFTEEN months after they said on record that hew as discharged, will anything change for you? Or will you just invent a reason and ignore it?
Contractors wear uniform clothing all the time... once again you wouldn't know that because you never served and you have zero understanding of the military. Not only that but veterans can wear thier uniforms to certain functions and working parties.
Show me.. so I can disqualify everything in it and re-affirm the irrelevance and absurdity of cospiracy theorists.
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McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story
Shows McVeigh was in military receiving instruction in "explosives and demolition" over a year after official story says he was discharged, whistleblower harassed for years while unknowingly in possession of bombshell tape
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Monday, December 18, 2006
A video that shows Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a U.S. military base that specializes in explosives and demolition training over a year after he supposedly left the army puts the official story of the April 19 1995 federal building bombing under serious doubt and mandates a re-opening of an investigation into the terror attack that killed 168 people.
The video was released by Bill Bean, a film producer who has suffered intense surveillance and harassment since taking the footage, and is the subject of a February 2007 Hustler Magazine feature story.
On August 3rd 1993, Bean was given a tour of the Camp Grafton military facility in North Dakota as part of a research effort to scout possible shooting locations for a film he was working on. Bean met the Camp Superintendent Col. Dahl and was permitted to film every location he visited.
Bean takes up the story, "I videotaped all locations as possible future shot sites even if there was no actual scene written for that location. Mess Hall, Rec Room, Armory, etc. About an hour into the tour we passed by a long row of tanks and I was informed these had been used in the Gulf War. In fact I believe I was told there were captured tanks there also. While videotaping and viewing this location, two soldiers began to offload what I was told was an armored personnel carrier from a flatbed. One soldier driving the other directing from the ground. I watched them for a moment and then did a slow 360 with my camera and came back to them."
Given permission to board the tank, Bean walked over and pointed the camera inside, at which point one of the soldiers turned around and, appearing somewhat shocked to see the camera, uttered a brief response to Bean's question and attempted to push past him.
That individual has now been positively identified to be Timothy McVeigh, who according to the official timeline as endorsed by the FBI, was honorably discharged from the military for the last time in May 1992. And yet he is seen here on tape at a U.S. military base over a year after that date in August of 1993.
"I did not realize how significant what I had was, for many years," states Bean, "It was not until Mcveigh’s trial that I realized it was Mcveigh in the tank. Even then the larger point escaped me. That point is, McVeigh was not supposed to be in the military at that time. His military record shows him enlisting in 1988, being honorably discharged from the Army, on Dec. 31, 1991. His records then show he was in the Army reserve in Buffalo New York, from January 1992 until May 1992, he was then honorably discharged from the Army reserve. After May of 1992 he was never again in uniform on any base anywhere, never again part of the military. He was totally out of military service. The FBI states the only time they lose track of McVeigh, in his entire life, is the late summer of 93. They think he was somewhere between Kingman Arizona and Decker Michigan. Probably at gun shows, meeting antigovernment rightwing militia types. But he wasn’t, he was at Camp Grafton, in uniform, learning explosives and demolition!"
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http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/181206mcveighvideo.htm
you can see the video there. Down at the bottom. No comment from FBI or Army. Weird they wouldn't have any record of the biggest domestic terrorist in history working for them 15 months after they thought he left. Doesn't the govt keep track of shit like that?
I highly doubt he had such a position and they didn't know.
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Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
My buddy is obsessed with Alex Jones. He spends hours showing me his shit from Infowars, PP and others. And guess what, Not a damn thing he's shown me has proven anything and it's no wonder even leftist media like the NY Times and Wash post and CBS news won't carry stories like this.
What a suprise... this is no different!
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http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/181206mcveighvideo.htm
you can see the video there. Down at the bottom. No comment from FBI or Army. Weird they wouldn't have any record of the biggest domestic terrorist in history working for them 15 months after they thought he left. Doesn't the govt keep track of shit like that?
I highly doubt he had such a position and they didn't know.
Proof of date on the video? None
Does McViegh look a shit ton younger than he should have in 93? Yep
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So that is the basis for you denying this? The date?
If I can show you his documentation for being there at that time, will that help at all? Or will you continue to deny what is so damn obvious?
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No, I'm a perfectly sane guy. however, I realize that when something happens, and it isn't investigated according to protocol, it raises flags. Did you know that the Ok City federal building was bulldozed a few days afterward? No investigation, nothing. The company Controlled Demolition (you know, the same firm which cleaned up the WTC) just flattened the place.
The FBI is being reprimanded now because it's just coming out what a horrible cover-up investigation they did. This one was on Clinton's watch, so you don't have to get defensive about Bush.
Seriously BB, I challenge you to come right out and say that the OK city bombing was committed by only McVeign and Nicholls. I fucking dare you. Cause once you do, I will demolish your argument with solid evidence of a conspiracy. And if you DON'T tell me it was only them two, then hell, you believe it was a conspiracy.
Which is it, beachy? Did Mcveigh/Nicholls act alone, or not?
Actually what you've said is McVeigh wasn't really executed. ::) You live in the Twilight Zone son. I feel sorry for you.
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Actually what you've said is McVeigh wasn't really executed. ::) You live in the Twilight Zone son. I feel sorry for you.
No you don't. You admire my ability to challenge lies fed to us by the groups which benefit form them most.
Two of the ten McVeigh execution witnesses said he was still breakthing when they pulled the curtain.
Were these two witnesses wrong bb? You didn't answer yesterday.
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No you don't. You admire my ability to challenge lies fed to us by the groups which benefit form them most.Two of the ten McVeigh execution witnesses said he was still breakthing when they pulled the curtain.
Were these two witnesses wrong bb? You didn't answer yesterday.
LOL. ;D Funny! I had this discussion with you months ago. I don't feel like debating whether McVeigh was really executed, again. It's a stupid argument. Like the rest of your conspiracy theories.
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Beachy,
Mcveigh was videotaped working on a military base 15 months after being discharged. This causes some big problems for their official story, especially since he was working with a special forces explosives team when videotaped.
The timing on the tape is very authentic - he had a one day pass to interview these guys and be in those places, and he was there then, so it's not like he could fake that -
Assuming the tape is real, that means the FBI and Army both lied to the US public about mcveighs whereabouts and him involvement 15 months after being discharged.
Now, 1) are you challenging the authenticity of the tape and if so, on what grounds, and
2) if he was working there 15 months afterwards, what say you of the FBi's credibility on the REST of their story? ;)
3) you won't answer 1 and 2 :)
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No you don't. You admire my ability to challenge lies fed to us by the groups which benefit form them most.
Two of the ten McVeigh execution witnesses said he was still breakthing when they pulled the curtain.
Were these two witnesses wrong bb? You didn't answer yesterday.
Yep
and if they aren't wrong then he was dying or close to death.
What's your point? You don't believe he is dead?
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The doctor declared him dead. The witnesses were interviewed by Dan Abrams. Two of them said he was still breathing when they shut the curtain, but the doctor said he was dead.
Is this normal? Do 20% of execution witnesses usually still see the guy breathing after being declared dead?
or does this only happen in those cases where the terrorist happened to be working secretly with a special ops military team 15 months after he was supposedly discharged ;)
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The doctor declared him dead. The witnesses were interviewed by Dan Abrams. Two of them said he was still breathing when they shut the curtain, but the doctor said he was dead.
Is this normal? Do 20% of execution witnesses usually still see the guy breathing after being declared dead?
or does this only happen in those cases where the terrorist happened to be working secretly with a special ops military team 15 months after he was supposedly discharged ;)
So tell me.. arre the other 80% wrong? Did they NOT see him die? Or have you considered that there is a perfectly reasonable explaination that doesn't involve a conspiracy with spec ops? I'm trying not to laugh.
OMG... why do you think there is a conspiracy everytime there isn't an answer for something? You're a complete loony man! Jeez
I don't believe he was working there after he was discharged. I think the video is much older than INFOWARS and PRISONPLANET and ALEX JONES says it is. See my point?
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Brix - to be brief
1) The seismic data showed two bombs in OK city. The witnesseses said two blasts. There were audio recordings of two blasts.
2) Bombs #3 and #4 were removed from the building. (it was supposed to level the building). Since it was obvious mcveigh couldn't have carried large bombs into the building, your conspiracy is born.
3) All the ATF agents - and their kids - were not in the building that wed AM at 9:01. But all the civilians were. The ATF agents kept their kids home and waited down the street under the guise of a "drill". Brix - do you believe it was an incredible, improbable coincidence that all these guys with badges stayed home that day? Or do you think they knew?
I don't believe he was working there after he was discharged. I think the video is much older than INFOWARS and PRISONPLANET and ALEX JONES says it is. See my point?
The cameraman said that particular base, with the seized Iraqi tanks, gave the guy a one-day pass and he conducted his interviews. Aug 1993.
Are you saying that the cameraman is lying? He's been trying for years to get the military to address the tape and they refuse.
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Brix - to be brief
1) The seismic data showed two bombs in OK city. The witnesseses said two blasts. There were audio recordings of two blasts.
Funny how seismic data has proven nothing at the WTC... why would it here? Seismic data is really reaching.
2) Bombs #3 and #4 were removed from the building. (it was supposed to level the building). Since it was obvious mcveigh couldn't have carried large bombs into the building, your conspiracy is born.
Source? And please don't let it be another CT site.
3) All the ATF agents - and their kids - were not in the building that wed AM at 9:01. But all the civilians were. The ATF agents kept their kids home and waited down the street under the guise of a "drill". Brix - do you believe it was an incredible, improbable coincidence that all these guys with badges stayed home that day? Or do you think they knew?
Shit like that happens all the time. It's not incredible nor improbable. It a coincidence. So now the entire ATF of the Ok City was in on it, huh? Can you really believe your own bs?
The cameraman said that particular base, with the seized Iraqi tanks, gave the guy a one-day pass and he conducted his interviews. Aug 1993.
Exactly.
Are you saying that the cameraman is lying? He's been trying for years to get the military to address the tape and they refuse.
Lying to stir up a little controversy. NO WAY!!!! HE WOULDN"T!!!! : O
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Funny how seismic data has proven nothing at the WTC... why would it here? Seismic data is really reaching.
The WTC involved blasts in multiple locations, plane hits, and collapses. Seismic data at OK city showed two blasts, 4.2 seconds apart. Recordings (audio) showed two blasts, 4.2 seconds apart. Discount it if you want to.
Shit like that happens all the time. It's not incredible nor improbable. It a coincidence. So now the entire ATF of the Ok City was in on it, huh? Can you really believe your own bs?
All the time? hundreds of people with badges all keep their kids home one day, and show up late to work in bomb gear just as a coincidental bomb goes off?
Are you really that gullible, dude?
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Brix, every ATF agent kept their kids home. And none of them were at work at 9:01 AM on a wed AM.
If you were the cop investigating, would you seriously - seriously - would you seriously say to yourself "Shit like that happens all the time. It's not incredible nor improbable."?????
I don't think anyone would be that gullible to just accept this and not suspect foreknowledge. You say it's NOT IMPROBABLE? Dude, it's the very definition of improbable.
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If you were the cop investigating, would you seriously - seriously - would you seriously say to yourself "Shit like that happens all the time. It's not incredible nor improbable."?????
I work for the government. My parents worked for the gov't. A lot of my friends worked for the gov't. Yeah I would say I know the gov't and their agencies pretty well and drills, exercises, and training scenarios happen all the time.
This has got to be as weak as your "we never landed on the moon" arguement.
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You're changing the subject.
Can you defend your statement that "it's not incredible or improbable".
We're talking about several hundred people all doing an extremely odd thing - brekaing their routine and keeping their kids home and not going to work - all at the same time.
no offense dude, but I have to seriously question your street smarts if this doesn't set of serious alarm bells for you.
Really? Not IMPROBABLE? Really?
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You're changing the subject.
How? I'm adressing the issue of a large group of gov't workers and it is not at all unusual for things like that to happen.
Can you defend your statement that "it's not incredible or improbable".
See above. And it's not improbable due to events like that being relatively frequent withing gov't agencies.
We're talking about several hundred people all doing an extremely odd thing - brekaing their routine and keeping their kids home and not going to work - all at the same time.
In no way is it extremely odd. And of course their kids wouldn't be in the day care if they didn't have to go to work.
no offense dude, but I have to seriously question your street smarts if this doesn't set of serious alarm bells for you.
Really? Not IMPROBABLE? Really?
You are not a rational reasonable person if you can't see the holes in this. But then again I see where you're getting your information. I challenge you to find a few reputable sources (mainstream papers/networks) to support your theories.
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You are not a rational reasonable person if you can't see the holes in this. But then again I see where you're getting your information. I challenge you to find a few reputable sources (mainstream papers/networks) to support your theories.
You're suddenly changing positions!!!!
When asked to back up your statement that it's not improbable, you suddenly attack my credibility.
Are you backing off the statement that it's "not improbable"?
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You're suddenly changing positions!!!!
When asked to back up your statement that it's not improbable, you suddenly attack my credibility.
Are you backing off the statement that it's "not improbable"?
Wow did you not read the post above it? Your avoiding my judgements.
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Yeah I would say I know the gov't and their agencies pretty well and drills, exercises, and training scenarios happen all the time.
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And it's not improbable due to events like that being relatively frequent withing gov't agencies.
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Now that I've proven I didn't even try to change the subject why don't you go ahead and show me some of those reputable sources I was asking about, huh?
Attacking the credibility of anything or anyone associated with Alex Jones is a perfectly reasonable arguement.
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Alex Jones covers stories the mainstream media will not.
The interests of the govt, and the mainstream media, often overlap.
You should know this. I'm sure you see slanted coverage of the war.
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Saddam deserved this, but this execution was hypocrisy and nothing more.
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At least when bush ran for office, he told us about his plan for nationbuilding.
He did, didn't he?
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Alex Jones covers stories the mainstream media will not.
The interests of the govt, and the mainstream media, often overlap.
You should know this. I'm sure you see slanted coverage of the war.
Please, the left side of the media today (which is still the vast majority) refuses to cover these kinds of stories specifically due to thier lack of evidence and credibility. This is even dispite the fact that they are VERY eager to show the flaws of this administration and the defense dept. under ANY administration.