Author Topic: Full Page Ad in Chicago Tribune asking Obama to prove Presidential Eligibility  (Read 6670 times)

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Surprised the Tribune would publish this.  They seem to be quite enamoured with Obama.  It's on page 21 of the main news section.

This is the draft version.  I can't get any of the final advert versions to work.

An Open Letter to Barack Obama:


Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?


Are you legally eligible to hold the Office of President?

   
December 1, 2008

Mr. Barack Obama
Barack Obama Transition Office
Kluczynski Federal Building
230 So. Dearborn St.
Chicago, Illinois 60604
 

Dear Mr. Obama:

Representing thousands of responsible American citizens who have also taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic, I am duty bound to call on you to remedy an apparent violation of the Constitution. 

Compelling evidence supports the claim that you are barred from holding the Office of President by the “natural born citizen” clause of the U.S. Constitution. For instance:

Your father was a Kenyan citizen at the time of your birth and your mother was 18.
 

Legal affidavits state you were born in Kenya.
 

Your grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya.
 

Hawaii Dept of Health will not confirm your assertion that you were born in Hawaii.
 

You have posted an unsigned, computer-generated birth form that was created in 2007, a form that lacks vital information found on an original, hand signed Certificate of Live Birth, such as hospital address, signature of attending physician and age of mother.
   

U.S. Law in 1961 denied U.S. citizenship to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19 years of age.
 

In 1965, your mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and you had  by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen. 

You have repeatedly refused to provide evidence of your eligibility when challenged to do so in a number of recent lawsuits. Instead, you have been successful in having judges declare that they are powerless to order you to prove your eligibility to assume the Office of President.

For instance, the judge in Pennsylvania ruled the challenger had no standing to question your eligibility because his harm would be no different from the harm to be suffered by all other American citizens if you, as an ineligible person were to assume the Presidency. The judge in Hawaii actually said it would be an invasion of your privacy for him to order access to your original birth certificate in order to prove your eligibility to hold the Office of President.

Before you can legitimately exercise any of the powers of the President you must meet all the criteria for eligibility established by the Constitution. You are under a moral, legal, and fiduciary duty to proffer such evidence. Should you assume the office as anyone but a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States who has
not relinquished that citizenship, you would be inviting a national crisis that would undermine the domestic peace and stability of the Nation. For example:

You would always be viewed by many Americans as a poseur - a usurper.
 

As a usurper, you would be unable to take the required “Oath or Affirmation” on January 20 without committing the crime of perjury or false swearing, for being ineligible you cannot faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States.
 

You would be entitled to no obedience whatsoever from the People.
 

The armed forces would be under no legal obligation to remain obedient to you.
 

No civilian in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of your proclamations, executive orders or directives, as such orders would be legally void.
 

Your appointments of Ambassadors and Judges to the Supreme Court would be void no matter what subsequent actions the Senate might take.
 

Congress would not be able to pass new laws because it would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President.
 

As a usurper, Congress would be unable to remove you from the Office of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos including a potential for armed conflicts within the General Government or among the States and the People to effect the removal of such a usurper.

In consideration of the escalating constitutional crisis brought on by the total lack of evidence needed to conclusively establish your eligibility, I am compelled to lodge a First Amendment Petition for a Redress of this constitutional tort.

With all due respect, I ask that you immediately direct the appropriate Hawaiian officials to allow access to the vault copy of your birth certificate by our forensic scientists on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, December 5, 6 and 7, 2008.

In addition, I ask that you to arrange to have the following documentary evidence delivered to the National Press Club by 10 am on December 8, 2008.

a certified copy of your “vault” (original long version) birth certificate.
 

certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham.
 

a certified copy of your Certification of Citizenship.
 

a certified copy of your Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity.
 

certified copies of your admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
 

certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing your name from Barry Soetoro.

 “In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously.  Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher.   For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example.  Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.” Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this urgent matter.

Sincerely,

Robert L. Schulz
Chairman
 

We The People Foundation

For Constitutional Education, Inc.

www.WeThePeopleFoundatio n.org   

2458 Ridge Road  Queensbury, NY 12804
info@givemeliberty.org
 

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The thing most people don't get about the media is that is NOT liberal, or conservative.   It's capitalist!

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If there is any question the guy ought to provide proof and lay this to rest. For the sake of argument, what happens if they find out,lock solid proof, that he was born elsewhere?
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Wasn't this brought up a while ago and wasn't it laid to rest then?  I even seem to remember someone here even posting a pic of the actual birth certificate.

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Yes but the thing was crossed out and it was second hand and bottom line...if ur a CT nut there was a hole big enough to drive a truck through.
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he wont reply, why would he? he already won.

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The document images that Barack Obama has shown online and in the O-Bot favorable sites such as FactCheck.org is NOT, I repeat NOT a birth certificate. A real birth certificate for that time period is hand typed has much more information, such as hospital, age of mother, attending physician, real signatures of mother and witnesses to birth, and has the word "certificate" on it, not certification.

Also, Hawaiian birth registration laws were very lax in the 60s. Registration of a birth in Hawaii could be done for a child born anywhere in the world as long as the mother lived in Hawaii for one year prior to the birth of the child. There are serious doubts about Obama's qualifications per the U.S Constitution's special mandates to serve as the President.  Also there are credible allegations even those images online of the registration of a birth (which is not a birth certificate) have been altered or forged, similar to his forged Draft Registration record document.  That birth document online is being misrepresented as to what it really is and its legal merits.  Even Hawaii courts would not accept what Obama has proffered in a child paternity or support case.

There are different categories of citizens in a legal sense in the USA, i.e., naturalized, native born, and natural born.  And native born is NOT natural born.  To be "natural born" both your parents must be citizens at the time of your birth and you must be born in the USA or a territory under U.S. jurisdiction. There are serious doubts that Obama was even Native Born, i.e., the Kenya allegations. But he is certainly not Natural Born per his own unknowing admission, since his father was never a U.S. citizen of any classification and was in fact a British Subject. Obama has said his father was a British Subject. That is a fact.  Thus Obama is not a NBC, per the constitutional meaning of that, which is what the cases filed at SCOTUS are going to rule on in the Donofrio of NJ case that is there now.

Search google using "Obama Citizenship Donofrio" or "Obama Supreme Court Donofrio" to see more stories on the case. Google has been suppressing current stories if you are not clever enough to include the name of the attorney who filed the case, i.e., Donofrio. For the latest on what Barack Obama has proffered as evidence of his Natural Born Citizenship (NBC) and what he has NOT provided to conclusively prove it beyond any reasonable doubt, and the status of lawsuits at the U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS) to force him to prove it or withdraw, see this new website blog I put up a few weeks ago. Spread the word. Feel free to post my comments and blog site URL elsewhere and everywhere. :-)

http://www.obamacitizenshipfacts.org
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http://www.obamabirthcertificatefacts.org

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http://americamustknow.com

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brutal conspiracy theory.

the same repubs who were shitting on CTs for the last 8 years are suddenly creating gimmicks to share their new obama CTs.   Pussies :)

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Look out...here comes the sore losers....don't slip on your flop sweat boys.

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The Consititution has been a dead letter for the last 8 years...who cares now? :)
I hate the State.

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I can't believe people are still all over this thing.  Pretty silly. 

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Seriously, you think if there wasn't a possibility he was a US citizen that the RNC and the DNC (including Hillary) wouldn't have found this out by now?

Ridiculous.

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The news outlets are shitting all over this story today, as it gains momentum.

Turns out "right-wing conspiracy theorists" like Rush are making a big deal about it.

They were making tinfoil hat comments and giggling about "blogosphere nutcases with zero chance of success".

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Seriously, you think if there wasn't a possibility he was a US citizen that the RNC and the DNC (including Hillary) wouldn't have found this out by now?

Ridiculous.

Bumping my question to those who think that he's not a citizen.

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This should have been looked into thoroughly before he became the democratic nominee.  I can't imagine he got this far without truely being born in the US.  Either way now it's too late IMO.  The upheval and embarassment would be great for the country if we find out he was not born here and this wasn't looked into when it should have been.

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Even if it were true, doesn't anyone think that a birthcertificate would've been 'found' by now?

It's sad that the US Sct is even entertaining this crap.

I'm ashamed to be associated with the legal profession...just like I felt after Bush v. Gore.

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Actually, if the 'rock-solid evidence' was there, why didn't the anti-Obama people use it for the October Surprise? 

Why wait until December??  I don't get that.


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Suit contesting Barack Obama's citizenship heads to U.S. Supreme Court today
Justices will decide whether to consider the case

By James Janega | Tribune reporter
    6:30 AM CST, December 5, 2008

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider today whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain [and] USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court denied an application for an injunction and hasn't scheduled a conference on other aspects of the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing"—ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was referred by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful.

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The news outlets are shitting all over this story today, as it gains momentum.

Turns out "right-wing conspiracy theorists" like Rush are making a big deal about it.

They were making tinfoil hat comments and giggling about "blogosphere nutcases with zero chance of success".
kinda like palins daughter being a gang banging lesbo whos mom had an affair with her business partner that you spammed the board with for 2 days straight but never got any proof of huh?

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kinda like palins daughter being a gang banging lesbo whos mom had an affair with her business partner that you spammed the board with for 2 days straight but never got any proof of huh?

Yep... but no one tried to sue her over it did they?

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Yep... but no one tried to sue her over it did they?
LOL no but they did over trooper gate didnt they which turned out to be nothing as well didnt they?

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LOL no but they did over trooper gate didnt they which turned out to be nothing as well didnt they?

state found she violated ethics but no laws, right?

"nothing"?

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state found she violated ethics but no laws, right?

"nothing"?
then she was cleared of that if im not mistaken, right?

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http://houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5768

ANCHORAGE (AP) — A report has cleared Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner.

i guess that didnt make it to all those lefty blogs you got the rest of the nonsense you spammed this board with huh?

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http://houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5768
ANCHORAGE (AP) — A report has cleared Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner.

Your source is a blog called 'house of politics' and is on a thread?

Let's see what some more credible sources had to say:

BBC NEWS | Americas | Palin abused power, probe finds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm

Now, should I believe your 'blog', or the BBC?