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Title: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2021, 05:35:28 PM
He has nailed handling this pandemic.  Protecting the elderly.  Keeping his schools open.  Protecting businesses.  Absolutely owns the biased media.  Taking on the tech giants.  Florida really dodged a bullet by electing him. 

Check out his background.  Really impressive.  I know it's way early, but I see him on the short list as the Republican nominee if he runs for POTUS in 2024. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2021, 05:56:30 PM
He has nailed handling this pandemic.  Protecting the elderly.  Keeping his schools open.  Protecting businesses.  Absolutely owns the biased media.  Taking on the tech giants.  Florida really dodged a bullet by electing him. 

Check out his background.  Really impressive.  I know it's way early, but I see him on the short list as the Republican nominee if he runs for POTUS in 2024. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

He's been a fucking disaster

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2021, 11:24:04 PM
He has nailed handling this pandemic.  Protecting the elderly.  Keeping his schools open.  Protecting businesses.  Absolutely owns the biased media.  Taking on the tech giants.  Florida really dodged a bullet by electing him. 

Check out his background.  Really impressive.  I know it's way early, but I see him on the short list as the Republican nominee if he runs for POTUS in 2024. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

Representative Gaetz must be reading the board.   :)

Florida Rep. Gaetz hints at possible Ron DeSantis presidential run in 2024
by: WFLA 8 On Your Side Staff
Posted: Feb 15, 2021

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (WFLA) — Florida Representative Matt Gaetz floated Gov. DeSantis’ name as a possible 2024 presidential candidate during an interview with Fox News Sunday.

DeSantis made an appearance on the network earlier in the day, promoting his state’s virus response while slamming reports that the Biden administration may be considering domestic travel restrictions.

“One, it would be unconstitutional, it would be a political attack against Florida … We also have 26 other states and the District of Columbia that have higher per-capita COVID mortality than we do. We have 28 states that have higher per-capita cases that we do,” DeSantis told host Maria Bartiromo.

‘Political attack against Florida’: Gov. DeSantis calls possible domestic travel restrictions unconstitutional
“There’s no basis in medical, no basis in economics, there’s no basis in reality to do this except to punish a state who is doing it better than what his experts have recommended,” he continued.

Gaetz, a Republican who represents Florida’s 1st district, suggested on Fox News later that day the Biden Administration is attempting to defame DeSantis in anticipation of his potential presidential run in four years.

“What Ron DeSantis didn’t say, which is the truth, is that the Biden folks know that if Donald Trump is not the candidate in 2024, the leader of our movement will be Ron DeSantis,” Gaetz told the network.

‘I’m a Bucs fan, I’m damn proud of what they did’: DeSantis responds to maskless celebrations around Tampa
“He is a strong potential presidential candidate in 2024, the Biden team knows that, and so they’re trying to somehow cast aspersions on the Florida experience because you know what, throughout America, there’s a lot of Florida envy right now.”

The governor has not publicly acknowledged any speculation that he may be gearing up for a presidential run in 2024. DeSantis is up for gubernatorial reelection in 2022, where his handling of the coronavirus pandemic is sure to be the number one focus of his challenger.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-rep-gaetz-hints-at-possible-desantis-presidential-run-in-2024/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: IroNat on February 16, 2021, 04:37:00 AM
He's been a fucking disaster

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Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 16, 2021, 05:59:51 AM
He's been a fucking disaster

LOL you loser. 

Florida has had better results in every category than NY or CA. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9262397/How-California-Florida-took-different-approaches-ended-result.html


Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 16, 2021, 07:52:48 AM
He's been a fucking disaster


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Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 16, 2021, 08:18:19 AM
LOL you loser. 

Florida has had better results in every category than NY or CA. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9262397/How-California-Florida-took-different-approaches-ended-result.html

Dude you are aware that FL stopped reporting new cases a while back right?  There was a case worker that continued to report the new number of cases and DeSantis had her home raided and her arrested for doing so.

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 16, 2021, 08:23:19 AM
Dude you are aware that FL stopped reporting new cases a while back right?  There was a case worker that continued to report the new number of cases and DeSantis had her home raided and her arrested for doing so.

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.

Zero like NYS and killer cuomo who killed thousands and thousands. 

Or gruesome news one who is facing recall.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: OzmO on February 16, 2021, 09:40:41 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/16/covid-ron-desantis-2024-469071 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/16/covid-ron-desantis-2024-469071)


In response to his critics, DeSantis has counter-accused them of elevating the work of a “conspiracy theorist” who publishes false information about Florida’s death numbers. He has fought with reporters over mask-wearing and the state’s vaccination efforts. And he also notes that his resistance to closing beaches wasn’t the disaster critics predicted, the forecasts of overwhelmed hospitals never happened statewide and schools have been operating without community spread (even though a teachers union sued him for opening schools), and he boasts that he was among the first governors to reserve vaccines for those over 65 years old.

DeSantis is also quick to note that Florida’s death rate is 27th, below every large blue state except California, where deaths are ticking up at a faster rate in recent weeks, according to the CDC.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Moontrane on February 17, 2021, 06:41:33 PM
Dude you are aware that FL stopped reporting new cases a while back right?  There was a case worker that continued to report the new number of cases and DeSantis had her home raided and her arrested for doing so.

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.

Florida's numbers are plain to see, so your claim makes no sense.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

What law(s) did that gal break?  One might infer from your post that DeSantis is some evil ruffian.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on February 17, 2021, 07:44:20 PM
He's been a fucking disaster

Hardly!!!

Our schools are open. Our gyms are open. In fact, the Mr. Olympia got moved to Orlando from Vegas. The Super Bowl was awesome, especially since the BUCS WON!!!  Did I mention they're the first team to play (and win) the Super Bowl in their own home stadium? ;D

Businesses are running at a minimum of 50% capacity. BTW, care to explain why all these out-of-towners are running here for vaccinations, if DeSantis is such a "disaster"? Our elderly aren't croaking left and right in nursing homes, unlike those in NY, courtesy of Cuomo.

Dude you are aware that FL stopped reporting new cases a while back right?  There was a case worker that continued to report the new number of cases and DeSantis had her home raided and her arrested for doing so.

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.

So do I. Florida is doing just fine, even with Val Lemmings' hubby running Orange County. To be fair, even he hasn't been nearly as ghoulish as other Dem governors or mayors.


Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 17, 2021, 08:23:31 PM
I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows.. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on February 17, 2021, 08:35:59 PM
I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows.. 

And from where are all these out-of-state people coming? BLUE STATES!!!

So, your rant doesn't make a lot of sense. Blue staters, particularly in the northeast, are dying far more than those in the south.

And yet, the states leading the country in coronavirus deaths are loaded with Democrats and have been dominated by Democrats for DECADES.

Maybe people are sick and tired of bureaucrats like Fauci and Democrat politicians, shifting the goalposts on all the rules.

Go back to last year.

Masks were worthless; now, it's mandate time to slap them on your face.

Coronavirus was no more dangerous than the flu; now, it's the worst thing EEEEEVVVVVVEEERR!!!!


Go back to last year. Fauci (and others) have done complete 180s. Yet, left up to the tech nazis, if you posted what Fauci or any others said less than 12 months ago, you'll probably get yanked off their social media sites.

The shutdowns and draconian measures have had virtually NO EFFECT on stopping the spread.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 17, 2021, 11:36:55 PM
I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows..

This will probably be the most ignorant thing I read all week.  Unless I make the mistake of reading anything posted by the Village Idiot.  lol
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 17, 2021, 11:37:41 PM
Dude you are aware that FL stopped reporting new cases a while back right?  There was a case worker that continued to report the new number of cases and DeSantis had her home raided and her arrested for doing so.

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.

I know people who live in Florida and they disagree with you. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on February 18, 2021, 08:00:31 AM
I know people who live in Florida and they disagree with you.


Exhibit A

 ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 08:35:20 AM
Florida's numbers are plain to see, so your claim makes no sense.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

What law(s) did that gal break?  One might infer from your post that DeSantis is some evil ruffian.

Those numbers are reflected by the cases reported.  When you don't report cases, they don't get included in the numbers.

You can read about the raid here :
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944200394/florida-agents-raid-home-of-rebekah-jones-former-state-data-scientist

I know people who live in Florida and they disagree with you.

Then they are wrong.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: residue on February 18, 2021, 08:39:45 AM
I know people who live in Florida and they disagree with you.

oh well anecdotal evidence is all we're ever gonna need
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 08:39:57 AM
Those numbers are reflected by the cases reported.  When you don't report cases, they don't get included in the numbers.

You can read about the raid here :
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944200394/florida-agents-raid-home-of-rebekah-jones-former-state-data-scientist

Then they are wrong.

Florida has done extremely better than our leftist utopia.   There is a reason people are fleeing NY and CA to Florida.   Liberals hate the fng hell they create and then seek better places. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
He destroyed commie Cuomo and Newsome. 

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 18, 2021, 11:12:11 AM
Those numbers are reflected by the cases reported.  When you don't report cases, they don't get included in the numbers.

You can read about the raid here :
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944200394/florida-agents-raid-home-of-rebekah-jones-former-state-data-scientist

Then they are wrong.


Exhibit A

 ;D

I'm rolling with McWay on this one.   :)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 11:14:38 AM
I'm rolling with McWay on this one.   :)

Florida destroyed NY and CA.    NY and CA are liberal cesspools of failure - Florida came out ahead. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 18, 2021, 11:44:49 AM
Florida destroyed NY and CA.    NY and CA are liberal cesspools of failure - Florida came out ahead.

Facts. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on February 18, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
oh well anecdotal evidence is all we're ever gonna need

Fewer deaths, more vaccines, economy intact, stores and shops and gyms re-opened, kids back in school (and have been for MONTHS), people and businesses moving from NY and CA and coming here.

And you call that "anecdotal"?

For example, WrestleMania 37 was supposed to be in California this year. But, because of CA's draconian policies, that got scrapped. But, because the Super Bowl was held in Raymond James Stadium in Tampa (won by the home team  ;D ), 'Mania is being held there (where it was supposed to be last year), as well.

 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 12:03:54 PM
Fewer deaths, more vaccines, economy intact, stores and shops and gyms re-opened, kids back in school (and have been for MONTHS), people and businesses moving from NY and CA and coming here.

And you call that "anecdotal"?

For example, WrestleMania 37 was supposed to be in California this year. But, because of CA's draconian policies, that got scrapped. But, because the Super Bowl was held in Raymond James Stadium in Tampa (won by the home team  ;D ), 'Mania is being held there (where it was supposed to be last year), as well.

NY and CA are the worst of the worst of all measures and liberalfaggets and twinks like Straw et al keep making excuses. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on February 18, 2021, 01:32:24 PM
NY and CA are the worst of the worst of all measures and liberalfaggets and twinks like Straw et al keep making excuses.

They're waiting for Biden to come from on high, like Moses the lawgiver, with commandments as to how to re-open schools (that is, how much $$$ to cough up to sorry teachers' unions).

Our schools have been reopened since late last summer (at least in Orange/Seminole County). Parents can do full onsite schooling, virtual schooling, or a hybrid of the two. Private schools have their own options as well. My kids are going to school twice a week.

I believe schools will be fully reopened in Florida (overall) for 2021-2022 school year. There may be some static from Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties, the most heavily Democrat spots in the state.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 01:34:54 PM
They're waiting for Biden to come from on high, like Moses the lawgiver, with commandments as to how to re-open schools (that is, how much $$$ to cough up to sorry teachers' unions).

Our schools have been reopened since late last summer (at least in Orange/Seminole County). Parents can do full onsite schooling, virtual schooling, or a hybrid of the two. Private schools have their own options as well. My kids are going to school twice a week.

I believe schools will be fully reopened in Florida (overall) for 2021-2022 school year. There may be some static from Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties, the most heavily Democrat spots in the state.

Florida right now is leading the nation in many categories.    Liberal failed states like NY, CA, are bleeding residents to Florida.   Liberal failures hate the hell they create and then flee free places like Florida and then bring their failed beliefs there. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
Sure are a lot of angry Florida liberals even with the benefit of improved outcomes and standard of living. Imagine how angry you'd be in Cali, Chicago or New York.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 03:19:19 PM
Sure are a lot of angry Florida liberals even with the benefit of improved outcomes and standard of living. Imagine how angry you'd be in Cali, Chicago or New York.

Pretty ironic they are living a good life in FL and hate it so much at the same time. ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 04:41:12 PM
Who said they hated it?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
Who said they hated it?

Well if you vote for democrat faggets you get AOC and cuomo.  If you want that vote democrat and destroy your state
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 05:37:18 PM
Who said they hated it?

FL is awful right now.  I know.  I live here.

 ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 19, 2021, 06:52:04 AM
;D


Libs are deranged.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 12:01:58 PM
;D

I am talking in reference to covid.  Not the state itself. 

Who knew simple conversations were so hard to follow along with?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on February 20, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
I am talking in reference to covid.  Not the state itself. 

Who knew simple conversations were so hard to follow along with?
Then pay attention.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 22, 2021, 06:49:13 AM
I am talking in reference to covid.  Not the state itself. 

Who knew simple conversations were so hard to follow along with?


Most of BLM is on welfare of some sort, so your similar stance makes sense.

Kill the golden goose. Bite the hand that feeds. Etc.  :D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Moontrane on March 19, 2021, 01:22:49 AM
Those numbers are reflected by the cases reported.  When you don't report cases, they don't get included in the numbers.

You can read about the raid here :
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944200394/florida-agents-raid-home-of-rebekah-jones-former-state-data-scientist

Then they are wrong.

Same Data, Different Vibe

https://polimath.substack.com/p/same-data-different-vibe

Ms. Jones’ dashboard combines the RT-PCR testing with the antibody testing in order to deliver a number that says “here is how many people have had COVID in our state”. This makes sense (see note at the bottom).

Except that no other state does this. By combining disparate data sets, Ms Jones has muddied the waters around what the “true” number of detected infections. Her dashboard turns Florida into an orange that can’t be compared against the other 49 apples in the United States.
________________________ ________

If you’ve seen the stories of Florida hiding data, then you need to realize that those stories are nonsense. If Florida was hiding data, Ms Jones’ dashboard would be worthless. She is pulling from the same formal official Florida data sources as the official Florida COVID dashboard. She’s just arranging the data differently.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2021, 09:17:37 PM
If Trump runs in 2024, he should pick DeSantis as his running mate.

If he does not run, I can see some variation of DeSantis/Rubio as something I could support and that would be formidable.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2021, 12:57:32 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing DeSantis's excuses when COVID starts surging again in Florida
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2021, 02:55:40 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing DeSantis's excuses when COVID starts surging again in Florida
Typical liberal mentality, wishing illness and harm on Americans to "prove a point". ::)
Most foreign posters on getbig are better Americans than straw man.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2021, 03:43:10 PM
March 12, 2021
Joining a growing swell of states, Gov. Ron DeSantis appears focused on erasing mask requirements across Florida by now demanding that such emergency powers of local governments be rolled back by the Republican-led Legislature.

March 20, 2021
Miami Beach officers shoot pepper balls into spring break crowds to enforce emergency curfew.

Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber declared a state of emergency and set an 8 p.m. curfew, saying the crowds that have descended on the city recently are "more than we can handle."

"Too many are coming, really, without the intention of following the rules, and the result has been a level of chaos and disorder that is just something more than we can endure," Gelber told CNN's Ana Cabrera.

On Saturday night, hundreds of mostly maskless people remained in the streets well after the 8 p.m. curfew. With sirens blaring, police opened fire with pepper balls -- a chemical irritant similar to paint balls -- into the crowd, causing a stampede of people fleeing.

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Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2021, 03:46:41 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing DeSantis's excuses when COVID starts surging again in Florida

What is newsoms excuse then for an equally horrible record to that of killer cuomo ?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2021, 07:22:12 PM
I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows..

You’re view is not based in reality. In NYC among the demographics that actually frequent bars there was never a first wave:

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2021, 09:21:30 PM
You’re view is not based in reality.
You could have just stopped here, he's a liberal.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2021, 02:51:00 AM
You could have just stopped here, he's a liberal.

Ironically, it’s not even a liberal or conservative thing. Their opinion is more in line with Trump’s than mine. Trump was all for lockdowns and continually criticized Sweden.  I heard him yesterday on Maria Bartiromo’s show and he was recommending that everybody get the vaccine. I don’t think anybody in a low risk group should get it.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2021, 05:29:45 PM
Ironically, it’s not even a liberal or conservative thing. Their opinion is more in line with Trump’s than mine. Trump was all for lockdowns and continually criticized Sweden.  I heard him yesterday on Maria Bartiromo’s show and he was recommending that everybody get the vaccine. I don’t think anybody in a low risk group should get it.

That I am getting the COVID vaccine says a lot. I am not someone who gets vaccinated unless it is absolutely necessary. I got my first ever flu shot last summer and I got a at the same time DTP because of there being an infant in the house. I have no idea what childhood immunizations shots I had since I moved around a lot before I was 8 years old. However, I also traveled to Europe when I was 5 years old and one would imagine immunizations of some type were required....maybe not. I seem to remember having the smallpox vaccine several times because I never got the scar and I had no records to prove I'd had it. Smallpox vaccines stopped being required in the U.S. in 1972.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 23, 2021, 05:54:35 AM
That I am getting the COVID vaccine says a lot. I am not someone who gets vaccinated unless it is absolutely necessary. I got my first ever flu shot last summer and I got a at the same time DTP because of there being an infant in the house. I have no idea what childhood immunizations shots I had since I moved around a lot before I was 8 years old. However, I also traveled to Europe when I was 5 years old and one would imagine immunizations of some type were required....maybe not. I seem to remember having the smallpox vaccine several times because I never got the scar and I had no records to prove I'd had it. Smallpox vaccines stopped being required in the U.S. in 1972.

You’re getting vaccinated because that’s what you were told to do.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2021, 03:02:55 PM
You’re getting vaccinated because that’s what you were told to do.

Possibly. Even if this is the case, it is worth the peace of mind it brings me. Although I am healthy, I have some key factors which might make me more vulnerable to COVID. I am old, I have asthma, several allergies and I am prone to bronchial pneumonia, having had it multiple times throughout my life, including immediately following my premature birth. Since starting a pneumonia shot each year, I've not had that illness. This leads me to believe some preventative vaccines may be beneficial.

Late last week, a relative died from COVID within a few days of being diagnosed.

 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 23, 2021, 03:26:38 PM
Possibly. Even if this is the case, it is worth the peace of mind it brings me. Although I am healthy, I have some key factors which might make me more vulnerable to COVID. I am old, I have asthma, several allergies and I am prone to bronchial pneumonia, having had it multiple times throughout my life, including immediately following my premature birth. Since starting a pneumonia shot each year, I've not had that illness. This leads me to believe some preventative vaccines may be beneficial.

Late last week, a relative died from COVID within a few days of being diagnosed.

 

Sorry to hear about the loss.

How old was this person? Did he/she have preexisting conditions?


The median age of a Covid “victim” is 78 with 2 preexistings.

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2021, 08:00:18 PM
Typical liberal mentality, wishing illness and harm on Americans to "prove a point". ::)
Most foreign posters on getbig are better Americans than straw man.

Right?  You know how many liberals/progressive have wished harm on me and my family because they disagree with my political views?  It's sick. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2021, 08:03:54 PM
Possibly. Even if this is the case, it is worth the peace of mind it brings me. Although I am healthy, I have some key factors which might make me more vulnerable to COVID. I am old, I have asthma, several allergies and I am prone to bronchial pneumonia, having had it multiple times throughout my life, including immediately following my premature birth. Since starting a pneumonia shot each year, I've not had that illness. This leads me to believe some preventative vaccines may be beneficial.

Late last week, a relative died from COVID within a few days of being diagnosed.

 

Im scheduled for next Monday for my 1st pfizer injection. Can't wait. I hope that after the 2nd shot and about 10-14 days after that, when I see a buffoon walking around in a crowded place because he saw a youtube video saying it was a hoax, the contempt I feel for that imbecile diminishes from what it is today and I just think "Well, if he or his family member he spreads it to dies, at least they died doing what they loved " instead of worrying that I'll catch it from the moron. No offense to anyone reading this that thinks the Covid is a hoax...
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2021, 04:23:48 AM
Im scheduled for next Monday for my 1st pfizer injection. Can't wait. I hope that after the 2nd shot and about 10-14 days after that, when I see a buffoon walking around in a crowded place because he saw a youtube video saying it was a hoax, the contempt I feel for that imbecile diminishes from what it is today and I just think "Well, if he or his family member he spreads it to dies, at least they died doing what they loved " instead of worrying that I'll catch it from the moron. No offense to anyone reading this that thinks the Covid is a hoax...

Stay inside in the basement and afraid worrying forever, it will do you and everyone else a lot of good. 

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 24, 2021, 05:20:05 AM
Im scheduled for next Monday for my 1st pfizer injection. Can't wait. I hope that after the 2nd shot and about 10-14 days after that, when I see a buffoon walking around in a crowded place because he saw a youtube video saying it was a hoax, the contempt I feel for that imbecile diminishes from what it is today and I just think "Well, if he or his family member he spreads it to dies, at least they died doing what they loved " instead of worrying that I'll catch it from the moron. No offense to anyone reading this that thinks the Covid is a hoax...

It’s not a hoax. It’s  a scam. There’s a difference. I explained this last April. Everything in the post came true. The Fed increased the money supply by 30%. Countries around the world have put forth stimulus packages in the trillions, the pharmaceutical companies have had a massive windfall with tests and now vaccines.

If you still think this is all about some flu bug, you’re probably too far gone.

Funny, I remember a time not too long ago when liberals didn’t trust the government or the media. What happened?

If you look at it from the standpoint of crime families it all makes sense, not to the people here who are too far gone, but to those still salvageable.

First, you have the financial establishment family. They benefit from this by getting first dibs on the money being printed by central banks all around the world which is conveniently happening at the same time as a massive stock market shake out.

Next, you have the political crime family. They benefit from the fiscal stimulus which allows them to dole out money to their favorite groups and of course get kickbacks in return.

Finally, you have the medical establishment crime family. I’m hearing now that restarting the economy is going to depend on testing. Lotta fucking money to be made by testing the entire planet don’t ya think?


Covid-19 Testing Is Key to Restarting Economy as U.S. Cases Top 400,000 - Barron's


https://www.barrons.com/articles/covid-19-testing-is-key-to-restarting-economy-as-u-s-cases-top-400-000-51586350044
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 24, 2021, 05:28:44 AM
NY and CA are the worst of the worst of all measures and liberalfaggets and twinks like Straw et al keep making excuses.

They just don’t get it. Most of the financial establishment elites from New York went to Florida which conveniently happened to be the only state that stayed mostly open.

Now they’re getting ready to come back.


JPMorgan Chase Plans for Interns to Be in Office This Summer


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/16/business/stock-market-today
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2021, 01:43:08 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/03/florida-governor-desantis-suspends-all-remaining-covid-restrictions.html


DeSantis leading the way.   

Cuomo and Newsome and Whitmer should be held in shame and disgrace.   Liberal = FAIL
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
Governor DeSantis Lifts All Local COVID-19 Orders Effective Immediately
WFLA ^ | 3 May 2021 | Wendi Grossman
Posted on 5/3/2021,

BREAKING NEWS: Gov. DeSantis has announced that he is terminating all local COVID-19 orders, effective immediately. The governor also signed a bill limiting local governments’ ability to shut down businesses and schools during an emergency.

(Excerpt) Read more at wflanews.iheart.com ...


 :)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2021, 01:56:00 PM
Sorry to hear about the loss.

How old was this person? Did he/she have preexisting conditions?


The median age of a Covid “victim” is 78 with 2 preexistings.

I'm not sure about pre-existing conditions but he was definitely a senior citizen. As best as I know his wife and son are okay.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2021, 02:35:37 PM
Governor DeSantis Lifts All Local COVID-19 Orders Effective Immediately
WFLA ^ | 3 May 2021 | Wendi Grossman
Posted on 5/3/2021,

BREAKING NEWS: Gov. DeSantis has announced that he is terminating all local COVID-19 orders, effective immediately. The governor also signed a bill limiting local governments’ ability to shut down businesses and schools during an emergency.

(Excerpt) Read more at wflanews.iheart.com ...


 :)

Outstanding.  He is terrific. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2021, 03:08:51 PM
Outstanding.  He is terrific.


He makes all these liberal failures look so pathetic and ridiculous.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Moontrane on May 03, 2021, 03:25:17 PM
Governor DeSantis Lifts All Local COVID-19 Orders Effective Immediately
WFLA ^ | 3 May 2021 | Wendi Grossman
Posted on 5/3/2021,

BREAKING NEWS: Gov. DeSantis has announced that he is terminating all local COVID-19 orders, effective immediately. The governor also signed a bill limiting local governments’ ability to shut down businesses and schools during an emergency.

(Excerpt) Read more at wflanews.iheart.com ...

 :)

Not June 15 (CA) or maybe July 4 (if we Americans behave), but immediately.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2021, 11:50:00 AM
Best governor in the country.

Gov. DeSantis Tells Unemployed Floridians Collecting Benefits To Start Looking For A Job
"... the whole idea is that it's temporary ..."
By  Jon Brown
May 6, 2021   DailyWire.com

Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis speaks at a press conference at the Eau Gallie High School aviation hangar.
Paul Hennessy/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images
Republican Florida Governor Ron DeSantis informed unemployed Floridians during a Wednesday press conference that May will be the last month they can collect unemployment benefits without proving they are looking for work.

DeSantis, who had lifted the state’s policy requiring such proof because of the pandemic, said that reopened Florida now offers ample opportunity for employment, and capable residents need to get off the government dole, according to CBS Miami.

“Normally when you’re getting unemployment, the whole idea is that it’s temporary, and you need to be looking for work to be able to get off unemployment,” DeSantis said. “It was a disaster, so we suspended those job search requirements. I think it’s pretty clear now — we have an abundance of job openings.”

“We absolutely can put more people to work,” he continued. “The demand is there. Businesses want to hire more people, and I think we can go in that direction very soon.”

During the height of lockdowns in April 2020, Florida’s rate of unemployment was 13.8%, as reported by the Tampa Bay Times. In the most recent report from the state’s Department of Economic Opportunity, the rate had dropped to 4.7% in March, which is below the national average and represents approximately 475,000 unemployed people out of a workforce of 10.7 million.

“I think now we’re in just a different situation, you have a surplus of jobs, particularly in restaurant, lodging, hospitality, that people want to hire,” DeSantis said. “I mean, you see the signs all over the place. Look, that’s a good problem to have. But we also just want to make sure, like, look, if you’re really unemployed, can’t get a job, that’s one thing. But making sure that you’re doing your due diligence to look for work, and making sure those incentives align, better.”

As the Tampa Bay Times further reported:

DeSantis continued to criticize the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention about COVID-19 precautions that have idled the cruise-ship industry in Florida. Also, he said some restaurants are closing one day a week because they don’t have enough employees.

DeSantis somewhat dismissed the premise of a question about whether people were taking advantage of changes in the unemployment system. While Florida offers low state benefits, many unemployed people also have been eligible for federal jobless aid.

“I don’t think it’s manipulation. You know, whatever the benefits are, people are availing themselves of it. That’s not their fault,” DeSantis said.

DeSantis also announced this week that Florida will be sending $1,000 bonuses to every first responder who worked during the pandemic. “Some want to defund the police. In Florida, we’re funding them & then some … ” he tweeted.

DeSantis is a rising star in the Republican Party, and some speculate he could be the party’s presidential nominee in 2024.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30842702/want-to-complain-about-a-barking-dog-dont-call-police/#:~:text=The%20Honolulu%20Police%20Department%20will,Humane%20Society%20at%20356%2D2250.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2021, 02:36:14 PM
Man crush alert . . . .

https://rumble.com/vhjuqn-audience-goes-wild-as-gov.-desantis-schools-reporter.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR2rYwBqyfBRkERLk2wPWnt5Eo0g3o72DaIOJdZqX4_N8bl9JX_rCeq8OY0
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
Florida Becomes Latest State to Ban Transgender Girls From Sports
JOSEPH SALVADOR

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) signed a bill on Tuesday banning transgender girls and women from competing in women's scholastic sports. (Elementary school athletes are not included.)

“In Florida, girls are going to play girls’ sports, and boys are going to play boys’ sports,” DeSantis said, according to the Miami Herald.

DeSantis signed the bill on the first day of Pride Month, but he denied that he was trying to send a message with the timing.

"It’s not a message to anything other than saying we’re going to protect fairness in women’s sports," he said.

The same day, the LGBTQ civil rights group the Human Rights Campaign announced its intention to sue the state.

“Governor DeSantis and Florida lawmakers are legislating based on a false, discriminatory premise that puts the safety and well-being of transgender children on the line,” the organization’s president, Alphonso David, said in a statement. “Transgender kids are kids; transgender girls are girls. Like all children, they deserve the opportunity to play sports with their friends and be a part of a team.”

Florida is the latest and most populous state to pass a law banning transgender girls and women from school sports, joining Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, Tennessee and West Virginia.

South Dakota also implemented a similar law through executive order.

The American Civil Liberties Union announced recently that it would be filing a lawsuit against West Virginia for its transgender ban. The ACLU has also promised more lawsuits were to come for any states that pass similar legislation.

https://www.si.com/high-school/2021/06/01/florida-bans-transgender-girls-womens-school-sports?fbclid=IwAR17f6t-VRPY6DdGPYBHnssdsNZCgp6oHXbuoANBKkN9noh683IEq6LJbxU
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on June 01, 2021, 03:39:52 PM
LOL you loser. 

Florida has had better results in every category than NY or CA. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9262397/How-California-Florida-took-different-approaches-ended-result.html

Hey idiot are you fucking high. When Rebekah Jones blew the whistle on all of his lying he had her house ransacked by agents and she was fired....

Fuck out of here. Don’t be such a fucking retard.   Just admit you lost. You backed the wrong horse. Hes a lunatic that wants to overthrow democracy. Instead you go with this fucking shit show.

My God were fucked
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2021, 03:43:38 PM
Hey idiot are you fucking high. When Rebekah Jones blew the whistle on all of his lying he had her house ransacked by agents and she was fired....

Fuck out of here. Don’t be such a fucking retard.   Just admit you lost. You backed the wrong horse. Hes a lunatic that wants to overthrow democracy. Instead you go with this fucking shit show.

My God were fucked

Lmfao talked about behind the 8 ball - or on it.    This was debunked over and over and over.  NY had a an objectively worse outcome than FL. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2021, 03:55:46 PM
Hey idiot are you fucking high. When Rebekah Jones blew the whistle on all of his lying he had her house ransacked by agents and she was fired....

Fuck out of here. Don’t be such a fucking retard.   Just admit you lost. You backed the wrong horse. Hes a lunatic that wants to overthrow democracy. Instead you go with this fucking shit show.

My God were fucked


Again - either behind or on the 8 ball.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/rebekah-jones-the-covid-whistleblower-who-wasnt




Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on June 01, 2021, 04:32:36 PM
National review bro?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 01, 2021, 04:38:36 PM
National review bro?

If you have a better, more credible source show it. That being said, you’re right. Nothing has changed. You’re still falling for the same ole bullshit the left is throwing at you, higher education and all
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2021, 04:50:56 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ousted-florida-virus-data-curator-history-violations-70853281


Now go get your shine box.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2021, 04:53:06 PM
National review bro?

Of course. Did you think he reads unbiased articles?

Ad Fontes Media rates National Review in the skews right category of bias and as mixed reliability in terms of reliability.
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/national-review-bias-and-reliability/

Overall, we rate the National Review Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mostly Factual in reporting due to a few misleading claims and occasional use of poor sources, and one failed fact check.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-review/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2021, 05:33:17 PM
Of course. Did you think he reads unbiased articles?

Ad Fontes Media rates National Review in the skews right category of bias and as mixed reliability in terms of reliability.
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/national-review-bias-and-reliability/

Overall, we rate the National Review Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mostly Factual in reporting due to a few misleading claims and occasional use of poor sources, and one failed fact check.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-review/


Lol.  Amazing.   You didn’t even read all the linked direct sources in the article because you and option fail don’t want to have your little leftist bubble popped yet again.

Both NY and CA had a worse result than FL.   That is objective fact.    Liberals always fail all the time.  Texas and Florida destroyed liberal failures like NJ NYS MI CA in terms of outcomes.   
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2021, 05:42:58 PM

Lol.  Amazing.   You didn’t even read all the linked direct sources in the article because you and option fail don’t want to have your little leftist bubble popped yet again.

Both NY and CA had a worse result than FL.   That is objective fact.    Liberals always fail all the time.  Texas and Florida destroyed liberal failures like NJ NYS MI CA in terms of outcomes.   

Too each his own bubble. I like the one I'm in and you like yours. It is all good.

"But as her personnel file shows, not only was there no cover-up...." How could a personnel file show whether or not there was a cover-up? What it shows is that they deny there was a cover-up as is expected, since they fired her. The rest of that paragraph was written for one purpose and that ws to discredit her by bringing up her past record of unrelated offenses. What this does prove is that HR didn't do their job from the start by hiring here despite that she lied about her history. Although it is not clear how they unearthed it since she was not convicted in either case.

As an employee rep, I worked hand in hand with HR. Folks who lied on their applications and were later caught in the lie were most often fired. More often than not, they never got hired in the first place.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2021, 05:46:31 PM
too each his own bubble. I like the one I'm in and you like yours. It is all good.

Facts don’t care about your feelings.   ;)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on June 01, 2021, 06:48:25 PM

Lol.  Amazing.   You didn’t even read all the linked direct sources in the article because you and option fail don’t want to have your little leftist bubble popped yet again.

Both NY and CA had a worse result than FL.   That is objective fact.    Liberals always fail all the time.  Texas and Florida destroyed liberal failures like NJ NYS MI CA in terms of outcomes.   

Hey shut the fuck up you fucking idiot. You claim to love America so much but don’t give a shit when it’s handed over to this insane shit show proven grifter because he has the same R you like. Tha fuck is wrong with you. I mean I always thought you were a fucking idiot for your dumb ass views on politics but you supporting an all out demolition of our institutions for a fucker that doesn’t give a shit about you. God damn disgusting. I used to at least respect you for having your views because I thought they were out of blind patriotism. But now you’ve shown yourself to be a tribal hack that would gladly hand over our democratic way of life to this proven Ultimate grifter.

Fucking incredible.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2021, 08:27:39 PM
Hey idiot are you fucking high. When Rebekah Jones blew the whistle on all of his lying he had her house ransacked by agents and she was fired....

Fuck out of here. Don’t be such a fucking retard.   Just admit you lost. You backed the wrong horse. Hes a lunatic that wants to overthrow democracy. Instead you go with this fucking shit show.

My God were fucked

That story has been debunked.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2021, 08:28:18 PM
Facts don’t care about your feelings.   ;)

Nope.   :)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on June 01, 2021, 09:43:30 PM
That story has been debunked.
She just got whistle blower protection. Fuck outta here. Praise DeSantis because he is of your party but you know he’s a crooked POS.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2021, 11:54:35 PM
She just got whistle blower protection. Fuck outta here. Praise DeSantis because he is of your party but you know he’s a crooked POS.

Did you read the article Soul Crusher posted?  She's not a whistleblower. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ousted-florida-virus-data-curator-history-violations-70853281


Now go get your shine box.

I don't have a party.  I absolutely love DeSantis because he's the best governor in the country.  He's not afraid of the media.  He speaks the truth.  He makes good decisions.  He nailed the pandemic.  And his background is incredible.  You better get on board.  He is a likely future president.   :)

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 04:35:42 AM
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/florida-playbook/2021/02/16/moskowitz-issues-warning-to-democrats-desantis-rise-as-2024-contender-florida-legislators-may-consider-curbs-on-emergency-power-491754


ooopppssss!!!!!!   

This is a Democrat who works in Florida in the know who said she is peddling conspiracy theories, but carry on w MSNBC drivel. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on June 02, 2021, 06:49:30 AM
Did you read the article Soul Crusher posted?  She's not a whistleblower. 

I don't have a party.  I absolutely love DeSantis because he's the best governor in the country.  He's not afraid of the media.  He speaks the truth.  He makes good decisions.  He nailed the pandemic.  And his background is incredible.  You better get on board.  He is a likely future president.   :)

So is it him or you gon let trump get some more money from you while he strings your ass along until 2023. Fuck, what happened to you? Shit is sad.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 06:56:14 AM
So is it him or you gon let trump get some more money from you while he strings your ass along until 2023. Fuck, what happened to you? Shit is sad.

Listen Option - CA and NYS both had objectively worse results than Florida and Texas.   This is not an opinion, its a fact.  The lockdowns did not work, the mandates and shutdowns did not work, etc. 

Cuomo and Newsome are now presiding over two disastrous failed states with outward migration because people are sick of liberal governance. 

Lets go to some reality for you. 


"Broadly speaking, we found that Florida’s record, at least as of the beginning of December, compared favorably with most states across the country, including those with tighter restrictions. Specifically, in comparisons of coronavirus cases deaths and hospitalizations per capita, Florida ranked among the best, and better than some of the more highly regulated states. (Click on the chart to see separate comparisons for cases, deaths, and hospitalizations.)"

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/03/is-florida-doing-better-on-coronavirus-than-locked-down-states-politifact



Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2021, 07:09:51 AM
So is it him or you gon let trump get some more money from you while he strings your ass along until 2023. Fuck, what happened to you? Shit is sad.

Bruh are you drunk posting?  You're all over the place and just making stuff up.  Where do you get off saying that I donated money to President Trump?  And what does that have to do with the specific reasons I provided for why I think DeSantis is the best governor in America? 

Instead of just coming on here insulting people, try having an actual discussion about the facts.  It's not that hard. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 07:39:23 AM
Bruh are you drunk posting?  You're all over the place and just making stuff up.  Where do you get off saying that I donated money to President Trump?  And what does that have to do with the specific reasons I provided for why I think DeSantis is the best governor in America? 

Instead of just coming on here insulting people, try having an actual discussion about the facts.  It's not that hard.

Doesn't sound like Mal to be honest.

Nobody here is clamoring for Trump to return anyway.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2021, 07:43:40 AM
Doesn't sound like Mal to be honest.

Nobody here is clamoring for Trump to return anyway.

Ah.  Didn't think about that.  Gimmicks are annoying.  lol

I think Trump should get behind DeSantis. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 07:45:47 AM
Ah.  Didn't think about that.  Gimmicks are annoying.  lol

I think Trump should get behind DeSantis.

Even IF the election was proven fraudulent, Trump is not the answer.

Desantis can take the good parts of Trump, and avoid all the bullshit that came with it.

My real issue is that there are plenty of legit concerns about the current admin, and they're barely getting called on it.

It just can't continue.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 07:46:32 AM
Ah.  Didn't think about that.  Gimmicks are annoying.  lol

I think Trump should get behind DeSantis.

Trump derangement a d mental illness
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2021, 07:55:40 AM
Even IF the election was proven fraudulent, Trump is not the answer.

Desantis can take the good parts of Trump, and avoid all the bullshit that came with it.

My real issue is that there are plenty of legit concerns about the current admin, and they're barely getting called on it.

It just can't continue.

There is no way the 2020 election is going to be undone.  They should look into and address all of the problems with election, but the result is over already. 

Don't hold your breath for accountability.  Who is going to do it?  The media?  The cowards in the GOP?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 08:03:40 AM
There is no way the 2020 election is going to be undone.  They should look into and address all of the problems with election, but the result is over already. 

Don't hold your breath for accountability.  Who is going to do it?  The media?  The cowards in the GOP?

Of course not.

It's going to take a grass roots movement to get more real journalists mixed into the mainstream to course correct, and will take years.

Or something so egregious that it cannot be ignored.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2021, 08:10:27 AM
Of course not.

It's going to take a grass roots movement to get more real journalists mixed into the mainstream to course correct, and will take years.

Or something so egregious that it cannot be ignored.

You mean like an opposing party spying on a presidential campaign, falsely accusing the POTUS of being a Russian agent for years, and trying to impeach that POTUS based on a report that confirmed he wasn't a Russian stooge?  Few things could be more egregious than that. 

I'm a cynic.  Your solution is logical, but I don't see things getting better.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 08:27:38 AM
You mean like an opposing party spying on a presidential campaign, falsely accusing the POTUS of being a Russian agent for years, and trying to impeach that POTUS based on a report that confirmed he wasn't a Russian stooge?  Few things could be more egregious than that. 

I'm a cynic.  Your solution is logical, but I don't see things getting better.

I don't disagree with you.

However, I'm trying to chalk that period up to a real, extreme TDS cloud that infected the minds of normal, rational people.  Trumps words, combined with the shock of his election to the left, combined with media attacks 24/7, dishonesty, and big tech content manipulation/censorship made people temporarily suspend all common sense, as long as it contributed to the goal of a new administration.

I'm hoping that cloud loses it's power the further we get away from that time period.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2021, 09:04:27 AM
I don't disagree with you.

However, I'm trying to chalk that period up to a real, extreme TDS cloud that infected the minds of normal, rational people.  Trumps words, combined with the shock of his election to the left, combined with media attacks 24/7, dishonesty, and big tech content manipulation/censorship made people temporarily suspend all common sense, as long as it contributed to the goal of a new administration.

I'm hoping that cloud loses it's power the further we get away from that time period.

I can appreciate that.  I was where you were about four years ago. 

As I look at the state of the media, our politicians, etc. even after President Trump is long gone, I don't see anything getting better.  I hope you turn out to be right and I'm wrong. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 10:24:11 AM
I can appreciate that.  I was where you were about four years ago. 

As I look at the state of the media, our politicians, etc. even after President Trump is long gone, I don't see anything getting better.  I hope you turn out to be right and I'm wrong.

I just feel there's too many "normal people" out there for it not to happen.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 10:33:42 AM
Liberal mentally ill people on the spectrum can't grasp and come to terms with that Republican states and Govs did a far better job than progressives like Cuomo, Whitmer, Murphy, et al in Democrat run states. 

Liberals have this insane and ridiculous believe in their heads that they are smarter, follow "science", etc.   FALSE.  Liberal die-hards like Option Failure are part of a cult religion and ideology that has nothing to do with reason, logic, common sense, science, or facts.   

They bought all into the "Orange Man Bad " stupidity and now look so utterly foolish and incompetent.  They can not and are unable to admit just how poorly their religious zealotry has failed them.  They worship at the alter of liberalism and consider anyone daring to defy their beliefs as heretics. 

But yet again - Facts don't Give a F$CK about your Feelings and liberals look like fools in this latest fiasco. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: residue on June 02, 2021, 11:06:57 AM
Liberal mentally ill people on the spectrum can't grasp and come to terms with that Republican states and Govs did a far better job than progressives like Cuomo, Whitmer, Murphy, et al in Democrat run states. 

Liberals have this insane and ridiculous believe in their heads that they are smarter, follow "science", etc.   FALSE.  Liberal die-hards like Option Failure are part of a cult religion and ideology that has nothing to do with reason, logic, common sense, science, or facts.   

They bought all into the "Orange Man Bad " stupidity and now look so utterly foolish and incompetent.  They can not and are unable to admit just how poorly their religious zealotry has failed them.  They worship at the alter of liberalism and consider anyone daring to defy their beliefs as heretics. 

But yet again - Facts don't Give a F$CK about your Feelings and liberals look like fools in this latest fiasco.

entirely false, per-capita alabama and mississippi are up there and that's even before you consider population density. On average there's 1400 people on a single block in nyc, there's whole towns in mississippi with 1400 people
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 11:22:20 AM
entirely false, per-capita alabama and mississippi are up there and that's even before you consider population density. On average there's 1400 people on a single block in nyc, there's whole towns in mississippi with 1400 people
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Those states are tiny compared to FL, TX, NYS, ,IL, MI, NJ    - one can just as easily look at Utah, Idaho, SD, ND etc. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
entirely false, per-capita alabama and mississippi are up there and that's even before you consider population density. On average there's 1400 people on a single block in nyc, there's whole towns in mississippi with 1400 people
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

https://www.newsweek.com/tale-two-governors-desantis-was-vindicated-cuomo-lied-opinion-1574570


 ;)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on June 02, 2021, 12:00:47 PM
Those states are tiny compared to FL, TX, NYS, ,IL, MI, NJ    - one can just as easily look at Utah, Idaho, SD, ND etc.

Plus the media fawned over Cuomo, and criticized Desantis.

That's the major crux of this whole thing.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2021, 12:05:07 PM
Plus the media fawned over Cuomo, and criticized Desantis.

That's the major crux of this whole thing.

Cuomo also got a 5 Million Dollar book deal in the middle of this while he was murdering old old people and molesting interns 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2021, 02:10:24 PM
Listen Option - CA and NYS both had objectively worse results than Florida and Texas.   This is not an opinion, its a fact.  The lockdowns did not work, the mandates and shutdowns did not work, etc. 

Cuomo and Newsome are now presiding over two disastrous failed states with outward migration because people are sick of liberal governance. 

Lets go to some reality for you. 

Oregon had better results than Florida and Texas....likely thanks to Governor Brown's shelter in place directive at the onset of COVID and repeated shutdowns whenever the number of cases started escalating. Oregon also has a high percentage of folks who have been vaccinated.

Stats for the past 7 days:

Florida has had 10,833 cases per 100,000 for a total of 2,326,747

New York has had 10,801 cases per 100,000 for a total of 2,101,111

Texas has had  10,182 cases per 100,000 for a total of 2,952,227

California has had 9,594 cases per 100,000 for a total of 3,790,903

Oregon has had 4,782 cases per 100,000 for a total of 201,701


Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 04, 2021, 02:55:47 PM
Stay tuned for a steady stream of hit pieces as his star continues to rise.

Mystery donor gives $100K-plus to DeSantis
By MATT DIXON 06/03/2021
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/06/03/mystery-donor-gives-100k-plus-to-desantis-1384980
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 04, 2021, 03:07:22 PM
Stay tuned for a steady stream of hit pieces as his star continues to rise.

Mystery donor gives $100K-plus to DeSantis
By MATT DIXON 06/03/2021
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/06/03/mystery-donor-gives-100k-plus-to-desantis-1384980

What are the laws pertaining to political donations/campaign financing in Florida?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 04, 2021, 03:31:30 PM
Doesn't sound like Mal to be honest.

Nobody here is clamoring for Trump to return anyway.

He's had a few meltdowns over the years.

Hopefully his account isn't compromised.

He was always good for a laugh or two.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 04, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
I don't disagree with you.

However, I'm trying to chalk that period up to a real, extreme TDS cloud that infected the minds of normal, rational people.  Trumps words, combined with the shock of his election to the left, combined with media attacks 24/7, dishonesty, and big tech content manipulation/censorship made people temporarily suspend all common sense, as long as it contributed to the goal of a new administration.

I'm hoping that cloud loses it's power the further we get away from that time period.

What if Trump was "dumb like a fox" and he intentionally set himself up to play the martyr by continuously saying and tweeting outrageous remarks? Underdogs love a martyr.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 04, 2021, 06:01:34 PM
 :D

(https://scontent.fhnl3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/194324339_10219412586285352_250090843743391411_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=mFB9N77VFBQAX8ZC4Fr&_nc_ht=scontent.fhnl3-2.fna&oh=c59fdc301ebd0e692024e361cf734d3e&oe=60E0F0AB)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 05, 2021, 01:01:59 AM
:D

(https://scontent.fhnl3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/194324339_10219412586285352_250090843743391411_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=mFB9N77VFBQAX8ZC4Fr&_nc_ht=scontent.fhnl3-2.fna&oh=c59fdc301ebd0e692024e361cf734d3e&oe=60E0F0AB)

I love your sense of humor. He definitely does not look better as a blond.  ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 18, 2021, 07:25:18 PM
Governor DeSantis strikes again.

DeSantis Trounces the CDC in Big Court Win on Cruise Ships
By Nick Arama | Jun 18, 2021
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/06/18/desantis-trounces-the-cdc-in-big-court-win-on-cruise-ships-n398893
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: IroNat on June 19, 2021, 05:59:32 AM
DeSantis in 2024.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 21, 2021, 11:28:05 AM
The pardons include gym owners.  I love this man.  (No homo)

‘Let’s focus on real criminals’: DeSantis pardons remaining local COVID-19 penalties
BY ANA CEBALLOS HERALD/TIMES TALLAHASSEE BUREAU
JUNE 16, 2021
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article252151598.html
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 21, 2021, 11:32:15 AM
The pardons include gym owners.  I love this man.  (No homo)

‘Let’s focus on real criminals’: DeSantis pardons remaining local COVID-19 penalties
BY ANA CEBALLOS HERALD/TIMES TALLAHASSEE BUREAU
JUNE 16, 2021
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article252151598.html

He is my choice for 2024.  DeSantis is the man. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 21, 2021, 11:49:14 AM
He is my choice for 2024.  DeSantis is the man.

He's only running if Trump doesn't run.  Although I think if Trump runs he will tap DeSantis as VP.

EXCLUSIVE: Meadows says DeSantis won't run against Trump in 2024
by Christian Datoc |   | June 21, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/exclusive-meadows-says-desantis-wont-run-against-trump-in-2024
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 21, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
He's only running if Trump doesn't run.  Although I think if Trump runs he will tap DeSantis as VP.

EXCLUSIVE: Meadows says DeSantis won't run against Trump in 2024
by Christian Datoc |   | June 21, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/exclusive-meadows-says-desantis-wont-run-against-trump-in-2024

I prefer DeSantis to Trump.  He is Younger, better able on the mic to shut down liberal failures, losers, and mentally ill, and stays on point. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 21, 2021, 09:22:57 PM
I prefer DeSantis to Trump.  He is Younger, better able on the mic to shut down liberal failures, losers, and mentally ill, and stays on point.

I'm a little on the fence.  On one hand, I agree with you and DeSantis is less polarizing.  On the other hand, we saw what Trump can do and he was spectacular.  I was able to get past his tweets and some of the juvenile parts of his personality and focus on what he actually did.  If you focus exclusively on his policy positions and achievements, both domestic and foreign, he was a rock star.  Best economy ever, outstanding military accomplishments and restraint, multiple Nobel Peace Prize nominations, solid Supreme Court appointments, Covid vaccine in record time (a friggin miracle), etc. 

So part of me thinks:  if ain't broke . . . .

That said, I think DeSantis can accomplish the same thing. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on June 22, 2021, 01:50:16 PM
He's only running if Trump doesn't run.  Although I think if Trump runs he will tap DeSantis as VP.

EXCLUSIVE: Meadows says DeSantis won't run against Trump in 2024
by Christian Datoc |   | June 21, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/exclusive-meadows-says-desantis-wont-run-against-trump-in-2024

Well, it is pretty certain Trump wouldn't choose Pence again....although he barely ever uttered a word while he was Vice President....which allowed Trump center stage for those four yeaars. DeSantis might be too much competition, stealing the limelight from Trump....and as best as  I know a President cannot fire the Vice President.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on June 22, 2021, 03:13:45 PM
I'm a little on the fence.  On one hand, I agree with you and DeSantis is less polarizing.  On the other hand, we saw what Trump can do and he was spectacular.  I was able to get past his tweets and some of the juvenile parts of his personality and focus on what he actually did.  If you focus exclusively on his policy positions and achievements, both domestic and foreign, he was a rock star.  Best economy ever, outstanding military accomplishments and restraint, multiple Nobel Peace Prize nominations, solid Supreme Court appointments, Covid vaccine in record time (a friggin miracle), etc. 

So part of me thinks:  if ain't broke . . . .

That said, I think DeSantis can accomplish the same thing.

LOL

Just fucking LOL funny

Trump was a fucking disaster at everything he did

The economy entered the recession BEFORE Covid hit.  His trade war was a fucking disaster

He publicly sucked Putin's cock and claimed to have fallen in love in with the dictator in North Korea

His crowning disaster was his non-response to Covid (we found out today that he wanted to send Covid patients to "that island" he thought we owned ...aka Cuba)

He lost the popular vote TWICE and never cracked a 50% approval rating

Let's not forget IMPEACHED twice and then went on a campaign of lies and fraud in an attempt to STEAL the election

He will be remembered as THE WORST POTUS in the history of this country

But yeah, he was very popular with morons

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2021, 03:33:32 PM
LOL

Just fucking LOL funny

Trump was a fucking disaster at everything he did

The economy entered the recession BEFORE Covid hit.  His trade war was a fucking disaster

He publicly sucked Putin's cock and claimed to have fallen in love in with the dictator in North Korea

His crowning disaster was his non-response to Covid (we found out today that he wanted to send Covid patients to "that island" he thought we owned ...aka Cuba)

He lost the popular vote TWICE and never cracked a 50% approval rating

Let's not forget IMPEACHED twice and then went on a campaign of lies and fraud in an attempt to STEAL the election

He will be remembered as THE WORST POTUS in the history of this country

But yeah, he was very popular with morons

Hahahahahah....oh shit the delusions are thick with this one😂
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2021, 04:32:17 AM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/22/desantis-bill-students-learn-evil-communism/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 25, 2021, 01:21:05 AM
You should watch this.  It's a six minute "comedy" monologue.  A couple observations:

1.  It's not funny.  Not even a little bit.  It's a prime example of why liberals are so bad at talk radio, comedy, etc.  Many of them are simply not funny.  Just a weird sense of humor.   

2.  It shows how afraid they are of Governor DeSantis.  For anyone who thinks DeSantis will be less polarizing than Trump, listen to how she calls DeSantis a racist, homophobe, etc.  Keep in mind that every Republican nominee since Reagan was called a racist.  That they accused Romney of killing a woman who couldn't get health insurance and of abusing or killing his dog.  That they went back to interview Dr. Ben Carson's middle school classmates to try and disprove parts of his autobiography.  That Dr. Carson was identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as an extremist.  That they dug up sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain.  Not sure what their narrative will be for DeSantis.  Nobody is perfect, including DeSantis, but they are going to have a difficult time using Saul Alinsky's rules on him.   

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2021, 12:15:36 PM
Liberal failures and losers know DeSantis is going to destroy Kamala. 



Washington Post Reporter Pushes False Info About Gov. Ron DeSantis’s Response To Surfside Collapse
The Federalist ^ | 6/28/2021 | Shawn Fleetwood
Posted on 6/28/2021, 2:48:18 PM


Washington Post reporter Hannah Dreier published a series of misleading tweets over the weekend accusing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis of fumbling the state’s response to the recent building collapse in the town of Surfside.

On Saturday, Dreier posted a screenshot of FEMA’s response to the recent building collapse, claiming that it took DeSantis a full 24 hours to approve any form of emergency assistance for the affected area.

“There’s a saying in emergency management: The first 24 hours are the only 24 hours,” Dreier stated. “FEMA was ready to deploy to the condo collapse almost immediately, and included the crisis in its daily briefing, but didn’t get permission from Gov. DeSantis to get on the ground for a full day.”

According to FEMA’s National Incident Management System, requests for emergency assistance are to be made by local officials to state officials, who then contact federal officials for assistance.

On Sunday, DeSantis Press Secretary Christina Pushaw took to Twitter to respond to the accusations, stating that Dreier left out critical information from her tweets. Moreover, Pushaw added that Dreier did not make an attempt to contact her or DeSantis for comment on the matter.

“This is missing important context, @hannahdreier never asked me for comment,” said Pushaw. “emergency response started within minutes of the disaster led by Miami Dade County, amazing first responders. county mayor signed local emergency [delclaration] 4:40 & @GovRonDeSantis signed eo less than 1hr later.”

In a tweet that followed, Pushaw posted the official emergency declaration signed by Miami Dade County Mayor Danielle Levine Cava. Time-stamped at 4:33 p.m. ET on June 24, the declaration was signed more than 12 hours after the initial collapse of the building. Less than an hour later, DeSantis signed an executive order declaring a state of emergency for Miami Dade at 5:32 p.m. ET.

When asked by NBC’s Chuck Todd about the state’s response to the disaster, Cava, a Democrat, took the time to dismiss claims that her city has had any problems in acquiring emergency assistance.

“We are very grateful, not only the state of Florida has been here in force […] we’ve not lacked for any support,” she said.

Recent statements from the White House also invalidate Drier’s claims, with a call readout between President Joe Biden and DeSantis making clear that FEMA had been in close contact with Florida officials since the building’s collapse.

“The White House and FEMA have been in close coordination with local officials throughout the past two days,” the June 25 statement read. “The White House is continuing to monitor the situation, and the President will continue to receive regular updates from his Homeland Security team.”

Drier has yet to issue a correction on the matter.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on June 28, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
Liberal failures and losers know DeSantis is going to destroy Kamala. 



Washington Post Reporter Pushes False Info About Gov. Ron DeSantis’s Response To Surfside Collapse
The Federalist ^ | 6/28/2021 | Shawn Fleetwood
Posted on 6/28/2021, 2:48:18 PM


Washington Post reporter Hannah Dreier published a series of misleading tweets over the weekend accusing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis of fumbling the state’s response to the recent building collapse in the town of Surfside.

On Saturday, Dreier posted a screenshot of FEMA’s response to the recent building collapse, claiming that it took DeSantis a full 24 hours to approve any form of emergency assistance for the affected area.

“There’s a saying in emergency management: The first 24 hours are the only 24 hours,” Dreier stated. “FEMA was ready to deploy to the condo collapse almost immediately, and included the crisis in its daily briefing, but didn’t get permission from Gov. DeSantis to get on the ground for a full day.”

According to FEMA’s National Incident Management System, requests for emergency assistance are to be made by local officials to state officials, who then contact federal officials for assistance.

On Sunday, DeSantis Press Secretary Christina Pushaw took to Twitter to respond to the accusations, stating that Dreier left out critical information from her tweets. Moreover, Pushaw added that Dreier did not make an attempt to contact her or DeSantis for comment on the matter.

“This is missing important context, @hannahdreier never asked me for comment,” said Pushaw. “emergency response started within minutes of the disaster led by Miami Dade County, amazing first responders. county mayor signed local emergency [delclaration] 4:40 & @GovRonDeSantis signed eo less than 1hr later.”

In a tweet that followed, Pushaw posted the official emergency declaration signed by Miami Dade County Mayor Danielle Levine Cava. Time-stamped at 4:33 p.m. ET on June 24, the declaration was signed more than 12 hours after the initial collapse of the building. Less than an hour later, DeSantis signed an executive order declaring a state of emergency for Miami Dade at 5:32 p.m. ET.

When asked by NBC’s Chuck Todd about the state’s response to the disaster, Cava, a Democrat, took the time to dismiss claims that her city has had any problems in acquiring emergency assistance.

“We are very grateful, not only the state of Florida has been here in force […] we’ve not lacked for any support,” she said.

Recent statements from the White House also invalidate Drier’s claims, with a call readout between President Joe Biden and DeSantis making clear that FEMA had been in close contact with Florida officials since the building’s collapse.

“The White House and FEMA have been in close coordination with local officials throughout the past two days,” the June 25 statement read. “The White House is continuing to monitor the situation, and the President will continue to receive regular updates from his Homeland Security team.”

Drier has yet to issue a correction on the matter.

As the late Rush Limbaugh used to say, the left will always tell you whom they fear.

We Floridans remember the slander the left did against DeSantis to push that dope-headed fool former Tallahassee mayor, Andrew Gillum.

THANK GOD Desantis was our governor last year, during the pandemic. You've seen first hand what these left-winged buffoon mayors and governors do when their masks come off and they decide to get their dictator on.

DeSantis let the mayors do their thing, provided they didn't overreach. He stepped into action to stop the handful that did.

To his credit, even Orange County mayor, Jerry Demings (husband of congresswoman Val Demings, who's challenging Rubio for his senate seat) governed fairly well in the crisis.


DeSantis is the next best/worst thing to Trump (depending on what side of the fence one sits).

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
As the late Rush Limbaugh used to say, the left will always tell you whom they fear.

We Floridans remember the slander the left did against DeSantis to push that dope-headed fool former Tallahassee mayor, Andrew Gillum.

THANK GOD Desantis was our governor last year, during the pandemic. You've seen first hand what these left-winged buffoon mayors and governors do when their masks come off and they decide to get their dictator on.

DeSantis let the mayors do their thing, provided they didn't overreach. He stepped into action to stop the handful that did.

To his credit, even Orange County mayor, Jerry Demings (husband of congresswoman Val Demings, who's challenging Rubio for his senate seat) governed fairly well in the crisis.

DeSantis is the next best/worst thing to Trump (depending on what side of the fence one sits).

Liberals never are taking their masks off MCWAY . . . . . .  :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on June 28, 2021, 12:40:41 PM
Liberals never are taking their masks off MCWAY . . . . . .  :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

From a gym rat perspective, our gyms (at least 24-Hour Fitness) was only closed for three months. Some states are JUST NOW REOPENING places to pump iron. The NY Pro and Olympia were held here in Florida (Tampa and Orlando, respectively) last year and will be (has been) held here this year.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 30, 2021, 12:16:45 PM
The media is incredibly dishonest.  I don't think they can handle Governor DeSantis.  :)

Media Gets Stomped Into Next Week When They Go After DeSantis Yet Again on Building Collapse
By Nick Arama | Jun 29, 2021
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/06/29/media-gets-stomped-into-next-week-when-they-go-after-desantis-yet-again-on-building-collapse-n404351

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on July 15, 2021, 11:18:59 AM
DeSantis says Florida 'chose freedom over Fauci-ism,' urges conservatives to have a 'backbone'
DeSantis said he 'wasn't about to let the state get Fauci'd'
By Sam Dorman | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ron-desantis-fauci-freedom-speech
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on July 26, 2021, 11:26:08 AM
Governor DeSantis strikes again.

Appeals Court Lifts CDC Cruise Ship Restrictions in Win for Florida
24 July 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cruise-ship-florida-cdc/2021/07/24/id/1029792/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on July 26, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
Governor DeSantis strikes again.

Appeals Court Lifts CDC Cruise Ship Restrictions in Win for Florida
24 July 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cruise-ship-florida-cdc/2021/07/24/id/1029792/

People have had it with lockdowns and restriction, especially with the proverbially moving goalposts of the CDC/Fauci as to what does or doesn't work and how dangerous the coronavirus is or isn't.

The media and their lefty friends are going to attempt to use COVID to shoehorn some "moderate" Dem (as a communist Trojan Horse) into the governor's mansion in the Sunshine State.

But, I don't think that's happening. DeSantis has the election laws shored up. No more libs' magically finding votes, weeks after the polls close, especially in Broward and Palm Beach counties.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on July 27, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
I love this man.  (No homo)

Gov. Ron DeSantis responds after CDC recommends masks in schools
Brianna Volz, Digital Journalist
Associated Press
Published: July 27, 2021

ORLANDO, Fla. – Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is responding to updated guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that includes recommendations of masks in schools, something the governor has publicly opposed throughout the pandemic.

The new guidance was announced Tuesday as COVID-19 cases are surging nationwide, largely due to the highly contagious delta variant, according to health experts.

Previously, the federal agency had said vaccinated individuals could go mostly maskless, including in schools. On Tuesday, officials reversed course on some masking guidelines, recommending that even vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the coronavirus is surging.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the delta variant has changed the nation’s COVID-19 outlook since the CDC relaxed masking recommendations.

Citing new information about the ability of the delta variant to spread among vaccinated people, the CDC also recommended indoor masks for all teachers, staff, students and visitors to schools, regardless of vaccination status. Most school districts in Florida have already made masks optional for the upcoming school year.

DeSantis has previously said he does not support the idea of children wearing masks in classrooms.

Last week, he doubled down on his opposition to mask mandates for public-school students during the COVID-19 pandemic, saying he would call for a special legislative session if the federal government moves toward requiring masks in schools.

“There’s been talk about potentially people advocating at the federal level, imposing compulsory masks on kids,” DeSantis said last week. “We’re not doing that in Florida, OK? We need our kids to breathe.”

Following the release of the updated guidance, the governor’s office released the following statement, saying parents should have the right to decide whether their children wear masks at school:

“Governor DeSantis believes that parents know what’s best for their children; therefore, parents in Florida are empowered to make their own choices with regards to masking. Experts have raised legitimate concerns that the risks of masking outweigh the potential benefits for children, because masking children can negatively impact their learning, speech, emotional and social development, and physical health (e.g., infections from bacteria that’s often found on masks, difficulty breathing while exercising in masks, etc.) Fortunately, the data indicate that COVID is not a serious risk to healthy children, which is why schools in most countries were among the first institutions to reopen. At the end of the day, the Governor trusts parents to weigh the risks and benefits and make the best choices for their kids.”

More than 4 million children have been infected with COVID-19 in the United States since the start of the pandemic, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. With the highly infectious delta variant spreading across the country, doctors worry about that number continuing to climb. Doctor Fatma Levent, of AdventHealth for Children, specializes in pediatric infectious diseases in Orlando, where COVID-19 cases are on the rise. As the powerful delta variant sweeps the country, Levent says it’s affecting children more than previous strains. And more of them are ending up in the hospital.

“When they get it, it’s usually mild. However, they can get hospitalized, they can get pneumonia and other complications,” Levent said.

Click here for more information on how the delta variant is impacting children in Central Florida.


As for the negative impacts of mask-wearing the governor mentioned in his statement, experts have said while there may be some cons to children wearing face coverings, there are workarounds.

According to a post from two pediatric physicians in the American Academy of Pediatrics, face makes actually do not reduce oxygen flow or impact a child’s ability to learn in school.

The two pediatricians break down the five most common myths about mask-wearing and children here.

In a New York Times report, Kang Lee, a professor of applied psychology and human development at the University of Toronto, who studies the development of facial recognition skills in children, pointed to three potential problems masks might pose for children in interacting with classmates or teachers.

First, he said, kids under the age of 12 may have difficulty recognizing people, because they often focus on individual features, the Times reported. Next, he said a lot of our emotional information is displayed through the movement of our facial musculature. Because that musculature and therefore that information is obscured by masks, children may have issues with “emotional recognition and social interaction,” he told the newspaper. Finally, Lee said children may have problems with speech recognition since a great deal of information is communicated visually.

To help combat those issues, experts said parents can focus on the time they spend unmasked at home with their children and use it to emphasize face-to-face activities and interactions.

Experts also note that these suggestions may not be the best fit for every child and that parents should consider their child’s individual needs.

“Several of them also pointed out that children with neurodevelopmental issues such as autism will need special help and special consideration — but also that some of the techniques that parents and teachers already use to help these children learn to interpret social cues may be helpful for everyone when masks are in use,” according to the NYT report.

Click here to read the full New York Times article.

The Orange County Classroom Teachers Association also responded to the updated guidance on Tuesday.

“We are relieved that the CDC made that recommendation, especially considering the tremendous surge in Orange County. Masks were required during summer school, yet 260 tested positive. Imagine what it would look like if school started with no mask mandate,” president Wendy Doromal said.

The American Academy of Pediatrics is also recommending all students and staff wear masks during in-person education, regardless of their vaccination status — though the organization also points out that in-school transmission rates are low and severe COVID cases are rare among children.

At last check, masks were optional in most Central Florida classrooms, though some districts have said they will adjust policies if necessary.

School starts in about two weeks for most Central Florida school districts. For the latest information on COVID-19 policies and other back-to-school updates, visit ClickOrlando.com/backtoschool.

The Associated Press and New York Times contributed to this report.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/07/27/gov-ron-desantis-responds-after-cdc-recommends-masks-in-schools/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on July 29, 2021, 10:52:04 AM
And that's why the left is SCARED TO DEATH of DeSantis. Their "seek and destroy" machine will be in full force next year.

They're frightened that, if Trump doesn't run in 2021, DeSantis will. While he doesn't have the veracity of the Donald, he doesn't have Trump's baggage, either. They know DeSantis can pound Biden into the ground in 2024, if the Dems keep up this tomfoolery.

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 29, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
And that's why the left is SCARED TO DEATH of DeSantis. Their "seek and destroy" machine will be in full force next year.

They're frightened that, if Trump doesn't run in 2021, DeSantis will. While he doesn't have the veracity of the Donald, he doesn't have Trump's baggage, either. They know DeSantis can pound Biden into the ground in 2024, if the Dems keep up this tomfoolery.

DeSantis all the way.  He will obliterate the Biden/Harris clown show. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 02, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
Here's one of the places I think Desantis is  dropping the ball to be polite. Cruise lines want to have in place an ability to allow passengers who have been vaccinated. DeSantis has banned that. It should be a conundrum for the staunchest of Conservatives that are supposed to believe smaller government into private businesses is a no no... but for some reason... He (republican) is NOT allowing a business to decide who they allow in.. In this case, it defies logic and in my opinion is why we are seeing the uptick in cases. But hey... If a few more anti vaxxers die..is that a bad thing?     
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2021, 10:50:00 PM
Here's one of the places I think Desantis is  dropping the ball to be polite. Cruise lines want to have in place an ability to allow passengers who have been vaccinated. DeSantis has banned that. It should be a conundrum for the staunchest of Conservatives that are supposed to believe smaller government into private businesses is a no no... but for some reason... He (republican) is NOT allowing a business to decide who they allow in.. In this case, it defies logic and in my opinion is why we are seeing the uptick in cases. But hey... If a few more anti vaxxers die..is that a bad thing?   

Don't confuse "anti-vaxer" with "anti-vax mandate." 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
DeSantis on Lockdowns: ‘We’re Not Shutting Down,’ Schools Will Open, ‘We’re Protecting Every Floridian Job’
PENNY STARR
3 Aug 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/03/desantis-lockdowns-not-shutting-down-florida/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2021, 12:22:40 AM
Here's one of the places I think Desantis is  dropping the ball to be polite. Cruise lines want to have in place an ability to allow passengers who have been vaccinated. DeSantis has banned that. It should be a conundrum for the staunchest of Conservatives that are supposed to believe smaller government into private businesses is a no no... but for some reason... He (republican) is NOT allowing a business to decide who they allow in.. In this case, it defies logic and in my opinion is why we are seeing the uptick in cases. But hey... If a few more anti vaxxers die..is that a bad thing?   

Liberals hoping people they disagree with will die.  A consistent pattern. 

Democrat Strategist Wishes Death On Sen. Lindsey Graham After He Tests Positive For COVID
AUGUST 3, 2021
By Jordan Davidson
The political strategist leading the Rhode Island Democratic Party said she hopes Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham dies from COVID-19.

“It’s wrong to hope he dies from Covid right? Asking for a friend. #COVIDISNOTOVER #LINDSEYGRAHAM,” Kate Coyne-McCoy wrote on Monday night in a since-deleted tweet.

. . . .

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/03/democrat-strategist-wishes-death-on-sen-lindsey-graham-after-he-tests-positive-for-covid/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2021, 12:27:07 AM
WATCH: Ron DeSantis DESTROYS reporter suggesting children in hospitals should have worn masks
AUG. 3, 2021
BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/watch-ron-desantis-destroys-reporter-suggesting-children-in-hospitals-should-have-worn-masks/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:06:58 PM
Liberals hoping people they disagree with will die.  A consistent pattern. 

Democrat Strategist Wishes Death On Sen. Lindsey Graham After He Tests Positive For COVID
AUGUST 3, 2021
By Jordan Davidson
The political strategist leading the Rhode Island Democratic Party said she hopes Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham dies from COVID-19.

“It’s wrong to hope he dies from Covid right? Asking for a friend. #COVIDISNOTOVER #LINDSEYGRAHAM,” Kate Coyne-McCoy wrote on Monday night in a since-deleted tweet.

. . . .

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/03/democrat-strategist-wishes-death-on-sen-lindsey-graham-after-he-tests-positive-for-covid/

And he got the precious vaccine!!
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:09:14 PM
WATCH: Ron DeSantis DESTROYS reporter suggesting children in hospitals should have worn masks
AUG. 3, 2021
BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/watch-ron-desantis-destroys-reporter-suggesting-children-in-hospitals-should-have-worn-masks/

If you like that, you'll go over the moon when you hear DeSantis rip Biden about coronavirus (I just heard it on a radio news clip). Basically, he said Biden should do his job and secure the border. Until he does that, he doesn't want to hear JACK from Sleepy Joe about the virus.

If Trump doesn't run again, DeSantis will be in the pole position to lead the GOP and take Biden down.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 04, 2021, 12:38:58 PM
That is the one thing Biden should focus on, is the border.
He whines about a virus, then allows COVID+ refugee's in to have a field day.
While also releasing dangerous inmates to prey on citizens.

Biden->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Down Syndrome Kids
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2021, 01:04:26 PM
If you like that, you'll go over the moon when you hear DeSantis rip Biden about coronavirus (I just heard it on a radio news clip). Basically, he said Biden should do his job and secure the border. Until he does that, he doesn't want to hear JACK from Sleepy Joe about the virus.

If Trump doesn't run again, DeSantis will be in the pole position to lead the GOP and take Biden down.

Just saw it too.   ;D

'I am standing in your way': DeSantis blasts Biden after president tells him to 'get out of the way' on COVID
Aug 4, 2021
https://www.wesh.com/article/watch-live-gov-desantis-and-deo-secretary-provide-update-on-state-of-floridas-economy/37223004#
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:18:35 PM
Just saw it too.   ;D

'I am standing in your way': DeSantis blasts Biden after president tells him to 'get out of the way' on COVID
Aug 4, 2021
https://www.wesh.com/article/watch-live-gov-desantis-and-deo-secretary-provide-update-on-state-of-floridas-economy/37223004#

I only heard the last few sentences of that presser on the radio. WOW!!

When you find Sleepy Joe's lips, glue them back in place, because DeSantis just slapped them clean off.

Again, NOW YOU SEE why the media has him in the crosshairs. They know that either he or Trump can clean his clock in 2024.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2021, 09:15:14 PM
I only heard the last few sentences of that presser on the radio. WOW!!

When you find Sleepy Joe's lips, glue them back in place, because DeSantis just slapped them clean off.

Again, NOW YOU SEE why the media has him in the crosshairs. They know that either he or Trump can clean his clock in 2024.

No doubt.  They wouldn't be paying attention to him and attacking him if they didn't view him as a threat. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 06, 2021, 08:01:55 PM
If you like that, you'll go over the moon when you hear DeSantis rip Biden about coronavirus (I just heard it on a radio news clip). Basically, he said Biden should do his job and secure the border. Until he does that, he doesn't want to hear JACK from Sleepy Joe about the virus.

If Trump doesn't run again, DeSantis will be in the pole position to lead the GOP and take Biden down.

That might have been true 2 months ago
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 06, 2021, 08:04:19 PM
That might have been true 2 months ago

And who would be the top dog for 2024, if Trump doesn't run?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 06, 2021, 08:06:18 PM
Liberals hoping people they disagree with will die.  A consistent pattern. 

Democrat Strategist Wishes Death On Sen. Lindsey Graham After He Tests Positive For COVID
AUGUST 3, 2021
By Jordan Davidson
The political strategist leading the Rhode Island Democratic Party said she hopes Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham dies from COVID-19.

“It’s wrong to hope he dies from Covid right? Asking for a friend. #COVIDISNOTOVER #LINDSEYGRAHAM,” Kate Coyne-McCoy wrote on Monday night in a since-deleted tweet.

. . . .

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/03/democrat-strategist-wishes-death-on-sen-lindsey-graham-after-he-tests-positive-for-covid/

Personally, I know a person in ICU right now that is fighting for his life. His FB page is full of anti vaccine and anti covid posts.. he believed COVID was a hoax. He posted misleading information that he intentionally wanted to influence people to NOT get the vaccine. I hope he survives. I don't wish death upon any ignorant people. BUT ... if it has to be someone... the guy that tried to convince others NOT the get the vaccine that evidence overwhelming suggests is a good thing should be on the top of the list. Anyone disagree? and if so, state your reason
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 06, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Personally, I know a person in ICU right now that is fighting for his life. His FB page is full of anti vaccine and anti covid posts.. he believed COVID was a hoax. He posted misleading information that he intentionally wanted to influence people to NOT get the vaccine. I hope he survives. I don't wish death upon any ignorant people. BUT ... if it has to be someone... the guy that tried to convince others NOT the get the vaccine that evidence overwhelming suggests is a good thing should be on the top of the list. Anyone disagree? and if so, state your reason

You want people to explain why YOU think it's ok for someone to die from a disease because you disagree with their viewpoint.  Or justify why they don't want someone to die.  You are one sick mofo.  But I said that already. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 07, 2021, 04:33:57 AM
Personally, I know a person in ICU right now that is fighting for his life. His FB page is full of anti vaccine and anti covid posts..

Must be true, facebook says so.  ::)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 07, 2021, 05:14:52 AM
And what part of this dont dumb-kvnts understand?

To blame non-Vax where its causing you to wear masks and have lockdowns, you're just lying to yourself.

-

(CNN) Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.2 days ago

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Dumbbell Award:

 ::)==== ::)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 07, 2021, 05:15:19 AM
Personally, I know a person in ICU right now that is fighting for his life. His FB page is full of anti vaccine and anti covid posts.. he believed COVID was a hoax. He posted misleading information that he intentionally wanted to influence people to NOT get the vaccine. I hope he survives. I don't wish death upon any ignorant people. BUT ... if it has to be someone... the guy that tried to convince others NOT the get the vaccine that evidence overwhelming suggests is a good thing should be on the top of the list. Anyone disagree? and if so, state your reason


I'll bet there are a lot of brown shirts in your closet.  ::)
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2021, 06:34:05 PM
That's gangster.   ;D

Florida Gov. DeSantis to school officials: Enforce mask mandate, get your salaries withheld
Capital BureauUSA TODAY NETWORK – FLORIDA
Published Aug. 9, 2021
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2021/08/09/florida-gov-desantis-threatens-salaries-school-superintendents-school-board-members-mask-mandates/5544903001/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 06:51:42 PM
That's gangster.   ;D

Florida Gov. DeSantis to school officials: Enforce mask mandate, get your salaries withheld
Capital BureauUSA TODAY NETWORK – FLORIDA
Published Aug. 9, 2021
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2021/08/09/florida-gov-desantis-threatens-salaries-school-superintendents-school-board-members-mask-mandates/5544903001/

So, let's see if these goofs are willing to lose some $$$$ from their schools and their own wallets to force kiddies to put on masks.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2021, 06:58:37 PM
So, let's see if these goofs are willing to lose some $$$$ from their schools and their own wallets to force kiddies to put on masks.

They will likely fight it out in court. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2021, 07:00:41 PM
I was thinking DeSantis/Rubio if Trump doesn't run, but what about DeSantis/Scott? 

GOP megadonors flock to Tim Scott, building 2024 buzz
Oracle's Larry Ellison is the biggest name in a group of major Republican donors sending big money to South Carolina's Scott.
By ALEX ISENSTADT
08/09/2021
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/09/tim-scott-mega-millions-fundraising-502764
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 07:13:20 PM
I was thinking DeSantis/Rubio if Trump doesn't run, but what about DeSantis/Scott? 

GOP megadonors flock to Tim Scott, building 2024 buzz
Oracle's Larry Ellison is the biggest name in a group of major Republican donors sending big money to South Carolina's Scott.
By ALEX ISENSTADT
08/09/2021
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/09/tim-scott-mega-millions-fundraising-502764

That sounds nice. DeSantis will get some loot too, when he runs for governor again. Of course, we still have to see if Trump runs in 2024.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2021, 11:10:19 PM
That sounds nice. DeSantis will get some loot too, when he runs for governor again. Of course, we still have to see if Trump runs in 2024.

I hope he decides soon.  Going to be a wild ride either way. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 16, 2021, 08:18:18 PM
Must be true, facebook says so.  ::)

So your theory must be, that this guys facebook is not full of things he himself posted warning people against getting the vaccine? Is that your theory?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Option D on August 17, 2021, 08:07:04 AM
He has nailed handling this pandemic.  Protecting the elderly.  Keeping his schools open.  Protecting businesses.  Absolutely owns the biased media.  Taking on the tech giants.  Florida really dodged a bullet by electing him. 

Check out his background.  Really impressive.  I know it's way early, but I see him on the short list as the Republican nominee if he runs for POTUS in 2024. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

Hahahah oh shit. This didn’t age well
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2021, 10:19:16 AM
Hahahah oh shit. This didn’t age well

Yeah, he should have handled things like Cuomo and just killed 18,000 old people and had the worst economy of the 50 states.   . . . .
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 17, 2021, 10:52:44 AM
Hahahah oh shit. This didn’t age well

How so?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 17, 2021, 10:53:44 AM
Yeah, he should have handled things like Cuomo and just killed 18,000 old people and had the worst economy of the 50 states.   . . . .

Facts.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
How so?

Liberal low information types like Out of Options are a little slow and behind the curve. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 19, 2021, 11:20:47 AM
WATCH: Ron DeSantis slams Biden for obsessing over masking school children while Afghanistan burns
"You got to wonder, where are your priorities that you're so obsessed with taking away parents' rights, but you're letting Afghanistan burn," DeSantis said.
Aug 19, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-desantis-slams-biden-masking-afghanistan?utm_campaign=64469
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 11:22:18 AM
WATCH: Ron DeSantis slams Biden for obsessing over masking school children while Afghanistan burns
"You got to wonder, where are your priorities that you're so obsessed with taking away parents' rights, but you're letting Afghanistan burn," DeSantis said.
Aug 19, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-desantis-slams-biden-masking-afghanistan?utm_campaign=64469

Liberals wear masks an item of religious garb.   They are cultists and fanatics like the radical islamist freaks insisting on a Burgha.   For the typical liberal freak - its no different. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 19, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
WATCH: Ron DeSantis slams Biden for obsessing over masking school children while Afghanistan burns
"You got to wonder, where are your priorities that you're so obsessed with taking away parents' rights, but you're letting Afghanistan burn," DeSantis said.
Aug 19, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-desantis-slams-biden-masking-afghanistan?utm_campaign=64469

pathetic and stupid conflation but then again I understand why DeSantis wants to distract from the deadly disaster that he has created in Florida

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 19, 2021, 11:47:03 AM
pathetic and stupid conflation but then again I understand why DeSantis wants to distract from the deadly disaster that he has created in Florida

Mental Sicko, tell us what Biden CREATED in Afghanistan !.


OBW, be 'free' & report me to 1MR 4 terrorizing U !.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 19, 2021, 12:56:21 PM
pathetic and stupid conflation but then again I understand why DeSantis wants to distract from the deadly disaster that he has created in Florida

As usual, you got it backwards. Biden is running his mouth about Florida to distract from the horrific job he's doing, both with the border and with Afghanistan.

And considering your governor may be out of job because of his handling of coronavirus, you're in no position to talk about anybody else's governor.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 19, 2021, 01:45:12 PM
As usual, you got it backwards. Biden is running his mouth about Florida to distract from the horrific job he's doing, both with the border and with Afghanistan.

And considering your governor may be out of job because of his handling of coronavirus, you're in no position to talk about anybody else's governor.

Bullshit

Biden was talking about the disaster in Florida long before the debacle in Afghanistan and Florida will continue to be a disaster when everyone has forgotten about Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 19, 2021, 04:29:24 PM


Biden was talking about the disaster in Florida long before the debacle in Afghanistan and Florida will continue to be a disaster when everyone has forgotten about SAIGON '75 .


Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 19, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
Bullshit

Biden was talking about the disaster in Florida long before the debacle in Afghanistan and Florida will continue to be a disaster when everyone has forgotten about Afghanistan.

What part of "both with the border and Afghanistan" can't you register in that head of yours?

That's why DeSantis burned him on it. Keeping illegal aliens (loaded with coronavirus) out of this country is Biden's job and he's failing miserably at it.

Again, YOUR governor's head is on the proverbial chopping block, in large part, due to his poor handling of the coronavirus.

So, you can cease all your blubbering about what's happening in Florida.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSant
Post by: POB on August 20, 2021, 11:04:18 PM
Bullshit

Biden was talking about the disaster in Florida long before the debacle in Afghanistan and Florida will continue to be a disaster when everyone has forgotten about Afghanistan.

You really don’t think Biden handled Afghanistan bad? You realize Florida is full of old people places like palm beach avg age is 70 a lot of people retire there plus their numbers have been double counted multiple times with no retraction from the media. Texas took In 200,000 illegal immigrants last month, the most in 20 years, you think they are vaxed? You think this might kick the numbers up a bit? Just cause he wears a blue tie doesn’t mean he hasn’t royally screwed up a lot so far. You can’t name anything he’s done good so far… wait till he puts the USA in a recession again or will that be the red tie guys fault?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
DeSantis blasts Associated Press in letter over 'smear' COVID drug story: 'Botched and discredited'
War of words continues after AP CEO complained DeSantis spokeswoman 'harassed' a reporter online
By David Rutz , Brian Flood , Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/desantis-associated-press-letter-smear
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 10, 2021, 01:53:32 PM
Governor DeSantis strikes again.

Court sides with DeSantis, reinstates school mask mandate ban pending outcome of appeal
BY ANA CEBALLOS HERALD/TIMES TALLAHASSEE BUREAU
UPDATED SEPTEMBER 10, 2021
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254138713.html
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on September 10, 2021, 07:55:54 PM
Governor DeSantis strikes again.

Court sides with DeSantis, reinstates school mask mandate ban pending outcome of appeal
BY ANA CEBALLOS HERALD/TIMES TALLAHASSEE BUREAU
UPDATED SEPTEMBER 10, 2021
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254138713.html

This sounds like a 2-out-of-3-falls match. First call goes to the masks nazis; second fall goes to DeSantis.

The Leon County (Tallahassee) judge that ruled against DeSantis just lifted his stay and tried to enforce the mask mandate just a few days ago. Now, he's been overruled.

Who wins the third fall? It depends on how many libs are on the Florida Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2021, 12:19:08 PM
This sounds like a 2-out-of-3-falls match. First call goes to the masks nazis; second fall goes to DeSantis.

The Leon County (Tallahassee) judge that ruled against DeSantis just lifted his stay and tried to enforce the mask mandate just a few days ago. Now, he's been overruled.

Who wins the third fall? It depends on how many libs are on the Florida Supreme Court.

How many of them were appointed by DeSantis?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2021, 12:19:36 PM
DeSantis slams Biden for ignoring 'natural immunity' in vaccine mandates
GOP governor said mandates 'not about science,' but 'government power' and 'control'
By Jessica Chasmar | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-biden-natural-immunity-vaccine-mandates
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2021, 10:20:23 AM
Florida Gov. DeSantis threatens heavy fines for local governments that impose vaccine mandates
Rebecca Shabad
Tue, September 14, 2021
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-gov-desantis-threatens-heavy-115600749.html
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 17, 2021, 09:48:17 PM
I live in Florida.. his fight against things the CDC, FDA say will help stem the tide is laughable. If you have any doubts to his lunacy, the fact he banned cruise ships from requiring proof of vaccination should be all the logical evidence   American needs to determine he is a moron.. but on Getbig.. a hero and a legend... go figure.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2021, 09:56:49 PM
I live in Florida.. his fight against things the CDC, FDA say will help stem the tide is laughable. If you have any doubts to his lunacy, the fact he banned cruise ships from requiring proof of vaccination should be all the logical evidence   American needs to determine he is a moron.. but on Getbig.. a hero and a legend... go figure.

McWay lives in Florida.  He disagrees with you.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 11:19:42 AM
DeSantis wrecks Biden

https://fb.watch/85VNhILh6I/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2021, 11:21:30 AM
Hahahah oh shit. This didn’t age well

Actually it did..stop being brainwashed by the MSM


https://fb.watch/85VUY5G13F/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on September 18, 2021, 05:00:05 PM
McWay lives in Florida.  He disagrees with you.

Indeed, he does.  ;D

All this crap in the media about Florida is because the two largest threats to Biden's presidency reside there.

They claim he's among the "anti-vaxxers"; yet, they called him a racist because he allegedly made vaccines available only to old white people.

He's fighting for Florida parents (like me), to ensure the WE, not school boards or power-tripping libs (in my case, the Orange County mayor, who actually had some sense last year), have the final say about masks and vaccines when it comes to our children.

He's now doing the monocoldial antibodies thing; so, the feds are trying to limit that. They want Florida to be the second coming of Egypt before the Exodus, so DeSantis becomes the scapegoat. It gives Biden a foil, to avoid criticism for his screw-ups.


 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 18, 2021, 11:43:31 PM
DeSantis Sucks

Prove me wrong
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2021, 07:15:33 AM
DeSantis Biden Sucks

Prove me wrong
Fixed for accuracy :-*
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2021, 02:06:17 PM
Deranged left

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/dems-support-florida-landowner-evicting-unvaccinated-tenants
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: POB on September 21, 2021, 05:10:15 AM
Indeed, he does.  ;D

All this crap in the media about Florida is because the two largest threats to Biden's presidency reside there.

They claim he's among the "anti-vaxxers"; yet, they called him a racist because he allegedly made vaccines available only to old white people.

He's fighting for Florida parents (like me), to ensure the WE, not school boards or power-tripping libs (in my case, the Orange County mayor, who actually had some sense last year), have the final say about masks and vaccines when it comes to our children.

He's now doing the monocoldial antibodies thing; so, the feds are trying to limit that. They want Florida to be the second coming of Egypt before the Exodus, so DeSantis becomes the scapegoat. It gives Biden a foil, to avoid criticism for his screw-ups.

I suspect if herd immunity is possible Florida and Texas will have it 1st I’m curious what the spin will be then
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on September 21, 2021, 09:51:58 AM
Deranged left

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/dems-support-florida-landowner-evicting-unvaccinated-tenants

What happened to "Housing is a right"?

So, if you get vaccinated but don't pay your rent, you get to stay.

But, if you don't get the shot, to hell with paying the landlord on time, you're gone.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2021, 08:07:08 PM
Indeed, he does.  ;D

All this crap in the media about Florida is because the two largest threats to Biden's presidency reside there.

They claim he's among the "anti-vaxxers"; yet, they called him a racist because he allegedly made vaccines available only to old white people.

He's fighting for Florida parents (like me), to ensure the WE, not school boards or power-tripping libs (in my case, the Orange County mayor, who actually had some sense last year), have the final say about masks and vaccines when it comes to our children.

He's now doing the monocoldial antibodies thing; so, the feds are trying to limit that. They want Florida to be the second coming of Egypt before the Exodus, so DeSantis becomes the scapegoat. It gives Biden a foil, to avoid criticism for his screw-ups.

Crazy how they can withhold medical treatment like this. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 23, 2021, 05:51:07 PM
Ron DeSantis strikes again.  This man will be president one day.

Ron DeSantis Purchases Antibody Treatments for Florida After Joe Biden Cuts Shipments
PAUL BOIS 23 Sep 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/ron-desantis-purchases-antibody-treatments-for-florida-after-joe-biden-cuts-shipments/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on September 23, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
Ron DeSantis strikes again.  This man will be president one day.

Ron DeSantis Purchases Antibody Treatments for Florida After Joe Biden Cuts Shipments
PAUL BOIS 23 Sep 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/ron-desantis-purchases-antibody-treatments-for-florida-after-joe-biden-cuts-shipments/

Dream on Soygirl

He'll be lucky to get re-elected governor of his shithole state
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on September 24, 2021, 11:11:36 AM
Future president Ron DeSantis strikes again.

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2021, 12:12:18 AM
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Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 30, 2021, 05:22:39 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-stops-covering-fl-covid-data-downtrend-threatens-lockdown-politics
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 01, 2021, 11:11:52 AM
Talk about a backfire.  This attack ad actually makes me want to move to Florida. 

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 04, 2021, 12:14:01 PM
Prayers for the future First Lady.

Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis Has Breast Cancer
POLITICS 10/04/2021

Casey is a true fighter, and she will never, never, never give up,” her husband, Gov, Ron DeSantis, said in a statement.

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida first lady Casey DeSantis has breast cancer, her husband Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Monday.

DeSantis, 41, is the mother of the couple’s three children, the youngest of whom was born after the governor took office in January 2019.

“As she faces the most difficult test of her life, she will ... not only have my unwavering support but the support of our entire family, as well as the prayers and well wishes from Floridians across our state. Casey is a true fighter, and she will never, never, never give up,” the Republican governor said in a statement.

Casey DeSantis has played an active role in her husband’s administration, advocating for people with mental health issues.

“Our hearts are with Florida’s First Lady Casey DeSantis and her family. We are all praying for you!” Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried said on Twitter. Fried is running for the Democratic nomination to challenge DeSantis in next year’s election.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/casey-desantis-breast-cancer-florida-first-lady_n_615b282ae4b05025423604db
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on October 04, 2021, 12:55:57 PM
Prayers for the future First Lady.

Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis Has Breast Cancer
POLITICS 10/04/2021

Casey is a true fighter, and she will never, never, never give up,” her husband, Gov, Ron DeSantis, said in a statement.

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida first lady Casey DeSantis has breast cancer, her husband Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Monday.

DeSantis, 41, is the mother of the couple’s three children, the youngest of whom was born after the governor took office in January 2019.

“As she faces the most difficult test of her life, she will ... not only have my unwavering support but the support of our entire family, as well as the prayers and well wishes from Floridians across our state. Casey is a true fighter, and she will never, never, never give up,” the Republican governor said in a statement.

Casey DeSantis has played an active role in her husband’s administration, advocating for people with mental health issues.

“Our hearts are with Florida’s First Lady Casey DeSantis and her family. We are all praying for you!” Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried said on Twitter. Fried is running for the Democratic nomination to challenge DeSantis in next year’s election.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/casey-desantis-breast-cancer-florida-first-lady_n_615b282ae4b05025423604db

Hopefully, Casey's breast cancer was caught early. My late wife had breast cancer in her 30's, which was treated with radiation. It never reoccurred.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 04, 2021, 01:24:55 PM
Hopefully, Casey's breast cancer was caught early. My late wife had breast cancer in her 30's, which was treated with radiation. It never reoccurred.

Hope so.  Cancer is a plague. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on October 04, 2021, 02:31:57 PM
Hope so.  Cancer is a plague.

Too bad there's no vaccine to for it.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2021, 06:48:59 PM
Future President Ron DeSantis strikes again.

White House rebukes Abbott, DeSantis for efforts to resist vaccine mandates
BY MORGAN CHALFANT - 10/12/21
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/576399-white-house-rebukes-abbott-desantis-for-efforts-to-resist-vaccine
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2021, 06:51:45 PM
Future President Ron DeSantis strikes again.

Florida County Fined $3.5M for Vaccine Mandate
By Jeffrey Rodack    |   Tuesday, 12 October 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/us/desantis-leon-county-fine-mandate/2021/10/12/id/1040197/

White House rebukes Abbott, DeSantis for efforts to resist vaccine mandates
BY MORGAN CHALFANT - 10/12/21
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/576399-white-house-rebukes-abbott-desantis-for-efforts-to-resist-vaccine
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2021, 05:30:04 AM
I was thinking DeSantis/Rubio if Trump doesn't run, but what about DeSantis/Scott? 

GOP megadonors flock to Tim Scott, building 2024 buzz
Oracle's Larry Ellison is the biggest name in a group of major Republican donors sending big money to South Carolina's Scott.
By ALEX ISENSTADT
08/09/2021
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/09/tim-scott-mega-millions-fundraising-502764

Tim Scott rakes in $8.3M for reelection, possible 2024 bid
The South Carolina senator has become one of the Republican Party's most prolific fundraisers.
By ALEX ISENSTADT
10/13/2021
https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/13/house-judiciary-letter-attorney-general-merrick-garland-memo-fbi-schools-ethics/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2021, 01:53:05 PM
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2021, 07:16:09 PM
Ron DeSantis
@GovRonDeSantis
Since launching monoclonal sites in August:
- 135,000+ Floridians have received treatments at 24 locations
- Florida’s COVID hospital census has declined for 52 days
- Average new hospital admissions have declined for 58 days
- Infection rate is now one of 5 lowest in the nation
Oct 14, 2021·
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on October 27, 2021, 06:31:17 AM
Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate

Which U.S. state has the lowest COVID-19 rate right now?

It’s not California, home of America’s strictest mask and vaccine requirements. Nor is it Vermont, even though 71 percent of residents there have been fully inoculated — the most in the country.

No, the state with the fewest daily COVID cases per capita is the same one that recently had more than any other: Florida.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-now-has-americas-lowest-covid-rate-does-ron-de-santis-deserve-credit-090013615.html
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 27, 2021, 08:42:54 AM
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Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2021, 01:18:54 PM
Florida strips schools of federal funding over mandatory mask policies
Biden Department of Education warns of federal enforcement action against state.
By Colton Salaz
Updated: October 27, 2021
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/florida-strips-schools-federal-funding-over-mandatory-mask-policies
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2021, 01:50:36 PM
Florida files lawsuit against Biden administration over COVID vaccine mandates
By Spectrum News Staff Florida
PUBLISHED Oct. 28, 2021
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/10/28/florida-files-lawsuit-against-biden-administration-over-covid-vaccine-mandates
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on October 28, 2021, 02:05:18 PM
October 26, 2021 Percentage of COVID cases by state. Somebody's lying. Could it be Florida's governor?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2021, 10:11:59 AM
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2021, 05:20:24 PM
Gov. DeSantis signs legislation prohibiting COVID vaccine mandates in Florida
by WEAR staff Thursday, November 18th 2021
https://weartv.com/news/local/gov-desantis-signs-legislation-prohibiting-covid-vaccine-mandates-in-florida
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on November 23, 2021, 08:56:44 AM
Psaki attacks DeSantis over Disney ending its vaccine mandate
DeSantis signed four bills last week requiring private employers to allow vaccine exemptions
By Michael Lee | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psaki-attacks-desantis-over-disney-ending-vaccine-mandate
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 23, 2021, 08:59:15 PM
Gov. DeSantis signs legislation prohibiting COVID vaccine mandates in Florida
by WEAR staff Thursday, November 18th 2021
https://weartv.com/news/local/gov-desantis-signs-legislation-prohibiting-covid-vaccine-mandates-in-florida

How do you defend a governor that poses his will on say Cruise ships that He says can't implement their own cautions against a deadly virus?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on November 24, 2021, 02:10:40 PM
How do you defend a governor that poses his will on say Cruise ships that He says can't implement their own cautions against a deadly virus?

Because, like Governor DeSantis, I believe the individual liberty part of the Constitution actually means something.  No, private companies should not be able to force any individual to take an experimental vaccine, particularly when the vaccine does not prevent you from either getting or transmitting the virus.  Vaccine mandates are not following the science.   

And your "deadly virus" comment is not intellectually honest.  You know good and well this is not a "deadly virus" outside of a discrete population:  the elderly with comorbidities, immunocompromised people, and the obese.  Outside that demographic, you have almost a 100 percent survival rate. 

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on December 23, 2021, 04:21:01 PM
Trump-DeSantis in 2024? Former president suggests it’s a ticket that could work
In Florida, DeSantis has a job-approval rating of 56% and double-digit leads over his Democratic challengers.
By The Center Square Staff
By Bethany Blankley
December 14, 2021
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/trump-desantis-would-be-good-vice-president-me-2024
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2022, 11:48:25 PM
DeSantis' Democrat challenger compares him to Hitler: 'In a lot of ways'
Nikki Fried, 44, claimed 'I saw the rise of Hitler'
By Andrew Mark Miller | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-desantis-democrat-challenger-compares-hitler
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 03, 2022, 11:06:37 PM
Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis Now Cancer-Free
The first lady’s breast cancer diagnosis was made public in October
By NBC 6 • Published March 3, 2022
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-first-lady-casey-desantis-now-cancer-free/2705124/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2022, 04:21:28 AM
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 04, 2022, 08:51:35 PM


cool
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on March 06, 2022, 09:01:38 AM
DeSantis' Democrat challenger compares him to Hitler: 'In a lot of ways'
Nikki Fried, 44, claimed 'I saw the rise of Hitler'
By Andrew Mark Miller | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-desantis-democrat-challenger-compares-hitler

It lets you know how desperate the Dems are here in Florida. For the first time ever, there are more registered Republicans than Democrats. 2018 marked the first time in at least a century that both FL's Senators were GOP. The left is hardly relatively little here, all but conceding DeSantis' re-election.

And, after he (and Rick Scott) nearly got screwed out of their victories, DeSantis got rid of those two clowns in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Think the 2000 election. Every time our state get blasted for not being able to count votes, it's always THOSE TWO and their crooked election officials, trying to magically find votes for Democrats at the last minute.

So, it's no surprise that Fried is going the "Hitler" route; it's all she has. Dollars to donuts, the Dems are going to try and sneak that turncoat Charlie Crist into office, by pretending he's a moderate (since he was once a Republican and former governor; he called himself a conservative, until he ran for Senate and got annihilated by Rubio).

DeSantis is why FL still ran functionally, despite the pandemic mess. Our schools were still open in fall 2020, even if it was part time in some cases (such as my kids' private school where they went twice a week). If there were any "mandates", it was that business had to be functioning at least 50% capacity. Lots of restaurants have half their tables taped off or had people eating partially indoors and partially outdoors.

Gyms were re-opened in June 2020 (at least 24-Hour fitness was). Despite the bankruptcy filed by the company, only three clubs in FL actually closed down: One in Miami and the other two in Kissimmee and Orlando (where I used to train  :'( ). But, the Apoka one is closer to my house anyway and more convenient, in terms of errands I have to run after I finish with the iron.

Most of all, DeSantis pumped the brakes on the DeBlasio/Lightfoot wannabes in the Sunshine State, in my case the mayors of Orlando and Orange Counties. DeSantis and Demings (Orange County) butted heads for months....with the former getting the upper hand. That's why FL's NFL teams has partially-filled stadiums, culminating with Super Bowl 55  ;D. And, since California was still in shutdown mode for most of 2021, WrestleMania 37 got moved from SoFi Stadium to Raymond James Stadium (where WM36 was supposed to be in 2020).

Did I mention the Olympia was moved to Orlando?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 28, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Ron DeSantis Blasts Biden: Most Americans Don’t Have the ‘Luxury of Spending $50k+ on an Electric Car’
Breitbart ^ | 03/28/2022 | Hannah Bleau
Posted on 3/28/2022, 12:54:32 PM by ChicagoConservative27

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) blasted President Joe Biden for being out of touch on Sunday following reports of the president drafting an executive order to invoke the Defense Production Act to help produce material for electric car batteries.

“After begging for oil from dictators, Biden is now using emergency war powers to produce batteries for the 1% that drive electric cars. Most Americans suffering due to high gas prices don’t have the luxury of spending $50k+ on an electric car,” DeSantis said, making the demand to “unleash American energy today!”:

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2022, 07:42:15 PM
DeSantis raises monster $100 million for reelection campaign
by Misty Severi, Breaking News Reporter  | April 08, 2022
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/desantis-raises-monster-100-million-for-reelection-campaign
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2022, 03:59:17 PM
It lets you know how desperate the Dems are here in Florida. For the first time ever, there are more registered Republicans than Democrats. 2018 marked the first time in at least a century that both FL's Senators were GOP. The left is hardly relatively little here, all but conceding DeSantis' re-election.

And, after he (and Rick Scott) nearly got screwed out of their victories, DeSantis got rid of those two clowns in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Think the 2000 election. Every time our state get blasted for not being able to count votes, it's always THOSE TWO and their crooked election officials, trying to magically find votes for Democrats at the last minute.

So, it's no surprise that Fried is going the "Hitler" route; it's all she has. Dollars to donuts, the Dems are going to try and sneak that turncoat Charlie Crist into office, by pretending he's a moderate (since he was once a Republican and former governor; he called himself a conservative, until he ran for Senate and got annihilated by Rubio).

DeSantis is why FL still ran functionally, despite the pandemic mess. Our schools were still open in fall 2020, even if it was part time in some cases (such as my kids' private school where they went twice a week). If there were any "mandates", it was that business had to be functioning at least 50% capacity. Lots of restaurants have half their tables taped off or had people eating partially indoors and partially outdoors.

Gyms were re-opened in June 2020 (at least 24-Hour fitness was). Despite the bankruptcy filed by the company, only three clubs in FL actually closed down: One in Miami and the other two in Kissimmee and Orlando (where I used to train  :'( ). But, the Apoka one is closer to my house anyway and more convenient, in terms of errands I have to run after I finish with the iron.

Most of all, DeSantis pumped the brakes on the DeBlasio/Lightfoot wannabes in the Sunshine State, in my case the mayors of Orlando and Orange Counties. DeSantis and Demings (Orange County) butted heads for months....with the former getting the upper hand. That's why FL's NFL teams has partially-filled stadiums, culminating with Super Bowl 55  ;D. And, since California was still in shutdown mode for most of 2021, WrestleMania 37 got moved from SoFi Stadium to Raymond James Stadium (where WM36 was supposed to be in 2020).

Did I mention the Olympia was moved to Orlando?

I hear some call it "the free state of Florida."  That's a direct result of his leadership. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2022, 04:00:21 PM
Outstanding response.

DeSantis’ Office Declines Guest Appearance on ‘The View’: ‘Are the Hosts of the View Really Interested in Hearing from Governor DeSantis?’
By Lydia Nusbaum
August 2, 2022
https://flvoicenews.com/desantis-office-declines-guest-appearance-on-the-view-are-the-hosts-of-the-view-really-interested-in-hearing-from-governor-desantis/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 02, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Outstanding response.

DeSantis’ Office Declines Guest Appearance on ‘The View’: ‘Are the Hosts of the View Really Interested in Hearing from Governor DeSantis?’
By Lydia Nusbaum
August 2, 2022
https://flvoicenews.com/desantis-office-declines-guest-appearance-on-the-view-are-the-hosts-of-the-view-really-interested-in-hearing-from-governor-desantis/

Good!

They would just attack him and make him look bad no matter what he has to say.

How people can watch that show is beyond my limits of understanding.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Moontrane on August 02, 2022, 06:28:37 PM
Outstanding response.

DeSantis’ Office Declines Guest Appearance on ‘The View’: ‘Are the Hosts of the View Really Interested in Hearing from Governor DeSantis?’
By Lydia Nusbaum
August 2, 2022
https://flvoicenews.com/desantis-office-declines-guest-appearance-on-the-view-are-the-hosts-of-the-view-really-interested-in-hearing-from-governor-desantis/

The View should just have a life-sized DeSantis cutout at the table to receive their inferior hen cackling.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2022, 08:31:04 AM
Liberals Furious Over Gov. DeSantis' Release of New Florida License Plate
24News ^ | 08-16-2022 | Joshua Ford
Posted on 8/16/2022, 11:18:02 AM by montag813



by Joshua Ford | 24News

The unveiling of a new Florida license plate by Governor DeSantis has liberals and leftist organizations up in arms.

Liberals are constantly willfully misinterpreting traditional American and patriotic flags and symbols to try to associate them with “right wing extremism.” One such victim of this misinterpretation is the iconic Gadsden Flag.

This iconic flag dates back to the time of the revolution and has been seen as a symbol of freedom, defiance in the face of oppression, and American patriotism ever since.

Now, Governor Ron DeSantis has released a new Florida license plate which prominently features the Gadsden flag design:



First teased at the end of July, the plate design has acquired considerable flak from liberal outlets and institutions such as NPR and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The flag was first designed for the U.S. Navy in 1775 by Colonel Christopher Gadsden.

Gadsden took inspiration from pro-American imagery created by Benjamin Franklin, who was the first to use a rattlesnake to symbolize the 13 colonies.

The flag was intended to symbolize defiance of the British crown’s tyranny, and features a rattlesnake rising against a metaphorical treading boot.

NPR, however, willfully ignores that in their hysterical response....

(Excerpt) Read more at us24news.com ...

Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 19, 2022, 10:58:23 AM
Liberals Furious Over Gov. DeSantis' Release of New Florida License Plate
24News ^ | 08-16-2022 | Joshua Ford
Posted on 8/16/2022, 11:18:02 AM by montag813



by Joshua Ford | 24News

The unveiling of a new Florida license plate by Governor DeSantis has liberals and leftist organizations up in arms.

Liberals are constantly willfully misinterpreting traditional American and patriotic flags and symbols to try to associate them with “right wing extremism.” One such victim of this misinterpretation is the iconic Gadsden Flag.

This iconic flag dates back to the time of the revolution and has been seen as a symbol of freedom, defiance in the face of oppression, and American patriotism ever since.

Now, Governor Ron DeSantis has released a new Florida license plate which prominently features the Gadsden flag design:



First teased at the end of July, the plate design has acquired considerable flak from liberal outlets and institutions such as NPR and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The flag was first designed for the U.S. Navy in 1775 by Colonel Christopher Gadsden.

Gadsden took inspiration from pro-American imagery created by Benjamin Franklin, who was the first to use a rattlesnake to symbolize the 13 colonies.

The flag was intended to symbolize defiance of the British crown’s tyranny, and features a rattlesnake rising against a metaphorical treading boot.

NPR, however, willfully ignores that in their hysterical response....

(Excerpt) Read more at us24news.com ...

I have that flag on the wall in my garage.

If an American finds it offensive, they know nothing about patriotism and can fuck off back the third world shithole their ancestors came from.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 19, 2022, 05:17:03 PM
In a perfect world, Trump decides to sit out 2024, backs DeSantis, who picks Tim Scott or Marco Rubio as his VP.  That combination would be better than Biden, Harris, Gavin Newsome, Bernie Sanders, etc.

Then again, so would Trump and whomever he picks as VP. 

But absent some kind of health issue, Trump is running and will be the nominee IMO.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 26, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
In a perfect world, Trump decides to sit out 2024, backs DeSantis, who picks Tim Scott or Marco Rubio as his VP.  That combination would be better than Biden, Harris, Gavin Newsome, Bernie Sanders, etc.

Then again, so would Trump and whomever he picks as VP. 

But absent some kind of health issue, Trump is running and will be the nominee IMO.

scary thought, Trump running again. A part of me hopes he does though...
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on August 27, 2022, 08:34:40 AM
I have that flag on the wall in my garage.

If an American finds it offensive, they know nothing about patriotism and can fuck off back the third world shithole their ancestors came from.
I have the Gadsden flag and a Battle flag hanging in my garage.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 29, 2022, 11:41:23 AM
Libturdz, anti-american pussies, can all fukk off.

Their game is over.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2022, 04:29:31 PM
scary thought, Trump running again. A part of me hopes he does though...

So you can vote for Biden again? 

Then again, you are the person who wanted people who were not wearing masks (that we know do not work) to die.

I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows..
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2022, 04:41:25 PM
Trump ex-Attorney General Bill Barr predicts Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis will be elected president in 2024
Kimberly Leonard Aug 26, 2022
https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-will-be-elected-president-in-2024-bill-barr-predicts-2022-8?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 29, 2022, 06:54:53 PM
Is DeSantis still copying everything about Trumpy and pissing him off?
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on August 29, 2022, 07:12:50 PM
Is DeSantis still copying everything about Trumpy and pissing him off?
Is Biden still shitting his pants and shaking invisible hands ???
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on December 01, 2022, 01:45:33 PM
The man put on a clinic the past four years and during the recent election.  I hope he runs.

Florida Legislature poised to change law to aid a DeSantis presidential run
While DeSantis has not yet said he will definitely run in 2024, he has emerged as a top potential contender for the job.https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/22/florida-legislature-desantis-presidential-run-00070538
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on December 09, 2022, 08:23:44 AM
Do it Ron. 

Top Conservative Polling Firm: DeSantis Now More Popular With Trump Voters Than Trump
By  Ryan Saavedra
Dec 1, 2022   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-conservative-polling-firm-desantis-now-more-popular-with-trump-voters-than-trump
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on December 09, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Do it Ron. 

Top Conservative Polling Firm: DeSantis Now More Popular With Trump Voters Than Trump
By  Ryan Saavedra
Dec 1, 2022   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-conservative-polling-firm-desantis-now-more-popular-with-trump-voters-than-trump

I'd vote for DeSantis in the primaries.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2022, 09:12:08 AM
DeSantis is awesome.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2022, 09:40:14 AM
He is
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on December 09, 2022, 05:50:25 PM
Would hit it.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
Do it Ron. 

Top Conservative Polling Firm: DeSantis Now More Popular With Trump Voters Than Trump
By  Ryan Saavedra
Dec 1, 2022   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-conservative-polling-firm-desantis-now-more-popular-with-trump-voters-than-trump

FYI, I just read that while sitting on his throne today, Trump proclaimed that you are going to be very, very sorry for deserting him in his 2024 bid for King of the U.S. the Presidency.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2022, 08:50:44 PM
I'd vote for DeSantis in the primaries.

I was convinced that nobody could beat Trump in the GOP primary, but I'm starting to think DeSantis might have a shot.  I don't vote in primaries because ours are closed (i.e., you have to vote a straight party line ticket) and I'm an independent, but I would rather see him as the nominee than Trump.

That said, Trump over Biden. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2022, 08:53:27 PM
DeSantis is awesome.

Yep.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 09, 2023, 10:48:03 AM
DeSantis edges closer to 2024 decision
BY AMIE PARNES AND MAX GREENWOOD - 02/09/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3849675-desantis-edges-closer-to-2024-decision/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 12, 2023, 10:28:31 PM
So you can vote for Biden again? 

Then again, you are the person who wanted people who were not wearing masks (that we know do not work) to die.

Dismissing your conclusion. I hope someone comes to the forefront, middle of the road... I was not happy Biden was the Democratic choice. But I would vote for peanut butter if the other option was Trump. I hope either the Democratic party or the Republican party puts up someone I can live with 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 13, 2023, 09:32:51 PM
Dismissing your conclusion. I hope someone comes to the forefront, middle of the road... I was not happy Biden was the Democratic choice. But I would vote for peanut butter if the other option was Trump. I hope either the Democratic party or the Republican party puts up someone I can live with

You're dismissing my conclusion that you wanted Republicans and conservatives who did not wear masks to die?  I quoted you.  Aren't you just a little embarrassed? 

"Middle of the road" does not exist.  People often reference a "centrist" candidate.  There isn't one. 

If you think the country is better off under Biden than under Trump then you are delusional.  Or just wrapped up in your ideology.  Or suffering from TDS.  You're definitely not looking at the facts:  the economy, foreign policy, relationships with foreign leaders, crime, etc.  It's not a close comparison.  For all his personality traits/faults, Trump from a policy standpoint was phenomenal.  Biden is a disaster.  And he literally got people killed. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 14, 2023, 07:13:06 PM
You're dismissing my conclusion that you wanted Republicans and conservatives who did not wear masks to die?  I quoted you.  Aren't you just a little embarrassed? 

"Middle of the road" does not exist.  People often reference a "centrist" candidate.  There isn't one. 

If you think the country is better off under Biden than under Trump then you are delusional.  Or just wrapped up in your ideology.  Or suffering from TDS.  You're definitely not looking at the facts:  the economy, foreign policy, relationships with foreign leaders, crime, etc.  It's not a close comparison.  For all his personality traits/faults, Trump from a policy standpoint was phenomenal.  Biden is a disaster.  And he literally got people killed.

We can agree to disagree. And I couldn't disagree more
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 14, 2023, 11:29:55 PM
We can agree to disagree. And I couldn't disagree more

You disagree based on emotion.  You cannot make a reasonable argument based on the facts.  Any reasonable person looking at the Biden Administration can see it is a dumpster fire.  Pretty much every economic, social/crime, defense, and foreign policy metric is worse.  Anyone just going to the store to purchase anything knows that skyrocketing inflation has increased the cost of goods and services.  Skyrocketing interest rates have made it impossible for many people to buy a home.  We are in a recession.  Record setting illegal immigration at the border.  Fentanyl pouring across the border killing thousands of people.  We are no longer energy independent.  Our adversaries are giving us a giant middle finger, as evidenced by the spy balloon.  And we cannot forget the dead service members who would be alive today if Trump were reelected. 

So yeah, you go ahead and disagree and run away like you always do, because you know you cannot provide fact-based support for the Biden presidency. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2023, 10:08:01 PM
If Governor DeSantis is the nominee, which I hope happens, the leftwing media will immediately dub him "worse than Trump." 

The Left is more scared of DeSantis than Trump
DAVID STROM
February 15, 2023
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/02/15/the-left-is-more-scared-of-desantis-than-trump-n530794
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 17, 2023, 10:50:18 PM
You disagree based on emotion.  You cannot make a reasonable argument based on the facts.  Any reasonable person looking at the Biden Administration can see it is a dumpster fire.  Pretty much every economic, social/crime, defense, and foreign policy metric is worse.  Anyone just going to the store to purchase anything knows that skyrocketing inflation has increased the cost of goods and services.  Skyrocketing interest rates have made it impossible for many people to buy a home.  We are in a recession.  Record setting illegal immigration at the border.  Fentanyl pouring across the border killing thousands of people.  We are no longer energy independent.  Our adversaries are giving us a giant middle finger, as evidenced by the spy balloon.  And we cannot forget the dead service members who would be alive today if Trump were reelected. 

So yeah, you go ahead and disagree and run away like you always do, because you know you cannot provide fact-based support for the Biden presidency.

I don't know, this may be the 4th time I have said this.. but please focus... I'm not a biden fan. He's too old (as is Trump) his best days are behind him (as is Trump) but as a place holder, I believe Biden for 4 years was the lesser evil than Trump for 4 more years. Jan 6 proved my point. I don't know what else to say
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 07:45:48 PM
I don't know, this may be the 4th time I have said this.. but please focus... I'm not a biden fan. He's too old (as is Trump) his best days are behind him (as is Trump) but as a place holder, I believe Biden for 4 years was the lesser evil than Trump for 4 more years. Jan 6 proved my point. I don't know what else to say

I'm focused on what you are saying and what you are not saying.  You're like a bot.  You repeatedly say you think Biden is better than Trump.  What you don't say is precisely why.  But you did just say "Jan 6 proved my point."  If you believe "Jan 6," where a handful of idiots trespassed and disrupted a public proceeding for a couple hours, justifies voting for Biden, then I hope you sit out 2024. 

I gave you specific facts regarding Trump vs. Biden:

"Pretty much every economic, social/crime, defense, and foreign policy metric is worse.  Anyone just going to the store to purchase anything knows that skyrocketing inflation has increased the cost of goods and services.  Skyrocketing interest rates have made it impossible for many people to buy a home.  We are in a recession.  Record setting illegal immigration at the border.  Fentanyl pouring across the border killing thousands of people.  We are no longer energy independent.  Our adversaries are giving us a giant middle finger, as evidenced by the spy balloon.  And we cannot forget the dead service members who would be alive today if Trump were reelected."

Instead of provide specific facts showing how well Biden has done, you just say he is "better."  Like a bot.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 20, 2023, 08:58:04 PM
I'm focused on what you are saying and what you are not saying.  You're like a bot.  You repeatedly say you think Biden is better than Trump.  What you don't say is precisely why.  But you did just say "Jan 6 proved my point."  If you believe "Jan 6," where a handful of idiots trespassed and disrupted a public proceeding for a couple hours, justifies voting for Biden, then I hope you sit out 2024. 

I gave you specific facts regarding Trump vs. Biden:

"Pretty much every economic, social/crime, defense, and foreign policy metric is worse.  Anyone just going to the store to purchase anything knows that skyrocketing inflation has increased the cost of goods and services.  Skyrocketing interest rates have made it impossible for many people to buy a home.  We are in a recession.  Record setting illegal immigration at the border.  Fentanyl pouring across the border killing thousands of people.  We are no longer energy independent.  Our adversaries are giving us a giant middle finger, as evidenced by the spy balloon.  And we cannot forget the dead service members who would be alive today if Trump were reelected."

Instead of provide specific facts showing how well Biden has done, you just say he is "better."  Like a bot.

Not true because you have not focused. I could put up a poll here that says "Why has Agnostic over the last 6 years not liked Trump and Would not vote for Trump over Biden" I'll bet 90 percent on here would say "Remember when he said BIden contacted a foriegn power and attemped to coerce said power into launching an investigation into his political opponent?" or "Remember when Agnostic said Trump tried to subvert the 2020 election?" or "Remember when he was upset Trump fired whistle blowers?" or "Lashed out in a spoiled child like manner at anyone who opposed him?" the list goes on but the point is, you haven't been paying attention
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 09:12:10 PM
Not true because you have not focused. I could put up a poll here that says "Why has Agnostic over the last 6 years not liked Trump and Would not vote for Trump over Biden" I'll bet 90 percent on here would say "Remember when he said BIden contacted a foriegn power and attemped to coerce said power into launching an investigation into his political opponent?" or "Remember when Agnostic said Trump tried to subvert the 2020 election?" or "Remember when he was upset Trump fired whistle blowers?" or "Lashed out in a spoiled child like manner at anyone who opposed him?" the list goes on but the point is, you haven't been paying attention

I admittedly do not read every thread or every post in every thread.  What I do know is you have not explained how Biden is better than Trump based on their record.  Because you cannot.  You cannot explain, factually, how the country is better today than during Trump's presidency.  And you don't care about that, because your position is based on emotion, not facts. 

Or perhaps I'm wrong?  Can you detail how Biden is better than Trump based on the economy, foreign policy, national defense, etc.? 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 20, 2023, 09:13:28 PM
I admittedly do not read every thread or every post in every thread.  What I do know is you have not explained how Biden is better than Trump based on their record.  Because you cannot.  You cannot explain, factually, how the country is better today than during Trump's presidency.  And you don't care about that, because your position is based on emotion, not facts. 

Or perhaps I'm wrong?  Can you detail how Biden is better than Trump based on the economy, foreign policy, national defense, etc.?

I give up
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 11:19:07 PM
I give up

Of course you do.  You cannot, factually, defend your vote for Biden over Trump based on Biden's and Trump's respective records and the state of the country under both presidencies. 

You could talk about the economy, but there is that whole recession and greatly increased costs of goods and services thing. 

You could talk about national defense/security, but there is that whole dead service members in Afghanistan, invasion of Ukraine, China spy balloon stuff.

You could talk about the border, but there is that whole record breaking illegal immigration and fentanyl killing Americans thing.

You could talk about the price of gas, but you'd be stuck with that energy independence thing. 

You could talk about whether the average family can buy a home, but that whole interest rate thing would trip you up.

You could talk about foreign affairs, but you'd be faced with that whole multiple Middle East peace accords and multiple Nobel Prize nominations thing. 

I could go on, but anyone who isn't a hack or is suffering from TDS gets the point. 

But hey, "January 6" trumps (so to speak) the incredible success the country enjoyed under Trump and the horrendous state of affairs under Biden.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2023, 04:46:27 PM
DeSantis to host donors ahead of likely 2024 White House bid
By James Oliphant
February 23, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/desantis-host-donors-ahead-likely-2024-white-house-bid-2023-02-23/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2023, 04:49:15 PM
Of course you do.  You cannot, factually, defend your vote for Biden over Trump based on Biden's and Trump's respective records and the state of the country under both presidencies. 

You could talk about the economy, but there is that whole recession and greatly increased costs of goods and services thing. 

You could talk about national defense/security, but there is that whole dead service members in Afghanistan, invasion of Ukraine, China spy balloon stuff.

You could talk about the border, but there is that whole record breaking illegal immigration and fentanyl killing Americans thing.

You could talk about the price of gas, but you'd be stuck with that energy independence thing. 

You could talk about whether the average family can buy a home, but that whole interest rate thing would trip you up.

You could talk about foreign affairs, but you'd be faced with that whole multiple Middle East peace accords and multiple Nobel Prize nominations thing. 

I could go on, but anyone who isn't a hack or is suffering from TDS gets the point. 

But hey, "January 6" trumps (so to speak) the incredible success the country enjoyed under Trump and the horrendous state of affairs under Biden.
He, like other libs here, can only repeat media talking points, Orange man bad!
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2023, 05:09:00 PM
He, like other libs here, can only repeat media talking points, Orange man bad!

That essentially is what he keeps repeating.  Like a bot. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 28, 2023, 06:42:02 AM
KABOOMMM!!!!

Of course you do.  You cannot, factually, defend your vote for Biden over Trump based on Biden's and Trump's respective records and the state of the country under both presidencies. 

You could talk about the economy, but there is that whole recession and greatly increased costs of goods and services thing. 

You could talk about national defense/security, but there is that whole dead service members in Afghanistan, invasion of Ukraine, China spy balloon stuff.

You could talk about the border, but there is that whole record breaking illegal immigration and fentanyl killing Americans thing.

You could talk about the price of gas, but you'd be stuck with that energy independence thing. 

You could talk about whether the average family can buy a home, but that whole interest rate thing would trip you up.

You could talk about foreign affairs, but you'd be faced with that whole multiple Middle East peace accords and multiple Nobel Prize nominations thing. 

I could go on, but anyone who isn't a hack or is suffering from TDS gets the point. 

But hey, "January 6" trumps (so to speak) the incredible success the country enjoyed under Trump and the horrendous state of affairs under Biden.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 03, 2023, 01:32:08 PM
Florida Governor DeSantis To Visit Iowa Next Week, Ahead Of Expected 2024 Announcement
Mike Jenkins March 2, 2023
https://www.tampafp.com/florida-governor-desantis-to-visit-iowa-next-week/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 03, 2023, 01:33:27 PM
Florida Gov. DeSantis’ Book Hits No. 1 On Amazon The Day It’s Released
Liam Edgar March 2, 2023
https://www.tampafp.com/florida-gov-desantis-book-hits-no-1-on-amazon-the-day-its-released/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2023, 02:18:41 PM
DeSantis privately acknowledges he will run for president in 2024: report
By Victor Nava
March 10, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/03/10/desantis-privately-acknowledges-he-will-run-for-president-in-2024-report/
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2024, 11:20:00 AM
A bad decision in an otherwise remarkable career.

DeSantis blames conservative media and indictments for 2024 loss
"They would have said ... 'Why didn't you step up when we needed leadership?'" the governor said of his decision to run now versus in the future.
Kimberly Leonard
01/22/2024
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/01/22/new-hampshire-primary-2024/desantis-reflects-on-failed-campaign-00136970
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: illuminati on March 07, 2024, 05:36:11 PM
I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows..


Really - FFS AG  I'm staggered at reading this !!

Well how did it turn out ?
Are you eating you're own words now that the truth about the Fake scamdemic & the poison vaccine
Is coming out.

Own it you were duped - you now know what you'd of been doing in 1940s Germany
Believing every last bit of propaganda.  🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 07, 2024, 08:55:24 PM

Really - FFS AG  I'm staggered at reading this !!

Well how did it turn out ?
Are you eating you're own words now that the truth about the Fake scamdemic & the poison vaccine
Is coming out.

Own it you were duped - you now know what you'd of been doing in 1940s Germany
Believing every last bit of propaganda.  🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

I know believing the election was legit and Covid was real on this forum is unpopular. But it's accurate.

At the height of the pandemic Italy's morgues were overflowing. Makeshift morgues were real. The elderly were the most at risk. The country's experts (not youtube "doctors") were giving the best advice given the available data. So yeah, seeing crowds partying in a bar during that time was irritating and some attendees likely brought the virus home and infected friends and relatives that died. It was irresponsible behavior and the hard thing to accept was that this was behaviour that put others at risk other than themselves.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: AbrahamG on March 07, 2024, 09:31:41 PM
I know believing the election was legit and Covid was real on this forum is unpopular. But it's accurate.

At the height of the pandemic Italy's morgues were overflowing. Makeshift morgues were real. The elderly were the most at risk. The country's experts (not youtube "doctors") were giving the best advice given the available data. So yeah, seeing crowds partying in a bar during that time was irritating and some attendees likely brought the virus home and infected friends and relatives that died. It was irresponsible behavior and the hard thing to accept was that this was behaviour that put others at risk other than themselves.

Great post as usual. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: illuminati on March 08, 2024, 02:43:06 AM
I know believing the election was legit and Covid was real on this forum is unpopular. But it's accurate.

At the height of the pandemic Italy's morgues were overflowing. Makeshift morgues were real. The elderly were the most at risk. The country's experts (not youtube "doctors") were giving the best advice given the available data. So yeah, seeing crowds partying in a bar during that time was irritating and some attendees likely brought the virus home and infected friends and relatives that died. It was irresponsible behavior and the hard thing to accept was that this was behaviour that put others at risk other than themselves.


I hear the Nazi party is still active & looking to recruit more members.
They have a planned agenda & all the propaganda to go with it.

No doubt you also believed the Video's from China of zombiefyed people dropping dead in the street
Left right & centre.

At the height of the scamdemic hospitals were empty of patients - The ICU were full as they always are
Let alone when Flu season hits & yes Flu hits the elderly & infirm the hardest.

Address the excess death rate thats been going on for the past 18mnths +  must be yet another
Pandemic raging  ::)  also all the huge increases of many life threatening ailments.
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 08, 2024, 02:55:50 PM

I hear the Nazi party is still active & looking to recruit more members.
They have a planned agenda & all the propaganda to go with it.

No doubt you also believed the Video's from China of zombiefyed people dropping dead in the street
Left right & centre.

At the height of the scamdemic hospitals were empty of patients - The ICU were full as they always are
Let alone when Flu season hits & yes Flu hits the elderly & infirm the hardest.

Address the excess death rate thats been going on for the past 18mnths +  must be yet another
Pandemic raging  ::)  also all the huge increases of many life threatening ailments.

Look, I don't want to get into a debate about whether Covid was real or not. It will go no where. The hospitals were not empty, you are rewriting history. I explained my post in context. If it still bothers people I can live with that, unlike many who likely couldn't live with the Covid the party goers brought home. i
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: AbrahamG on March 08, 2024, 05:11:10 PM
Look, I don't want to get into a debate about whether Covid was real or not. It will go no where. The hospitals were not empty, you are rewriting history. I explained my post in context. If it still bothers people I can live with that, unlike many who likely couldn't live with the Covid the party goers brought home. i

1st couple waves of covid were more potent than 2024.  I work with guys who still have long covid symptoms. 
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 08, 2024, 10:08:14 PM
1st couple waves of covid were more potent than 2024.  I work with guys who still have long covid symptoms.

It actually boggles my mind adults who apparently function in daily life refuse to admit the election results were accurate and the Covid epidemic was real. For them to be right is like the OJ Simpson jurors.. 80 plus people would have to conspired to  reach that verdict legitimately.  Never happened.   
Title: Re: Governor Ron DeSantis
Post by: illuminati on March 09, 2024, 03:02:06 AM
Look, I don't want to get into a debate about whether Covid was real or not. It will go no where. The hospitals were not empty, you are rewriting history. I explained my post in context. If it still bothers people I can live with that, unlike many who likely couldn't live with the Covid the party goers brought home. i

There was / is a virus that was either deliberately leaked or otherwise got out of the lab at Wuhan.
Very similar & maybe stronger than flu to start with, Personally I think it was deliberately let out
So it would kill many elderly & weak people- those costing a lot of money to look after & it did exactly
What it was meant to do.
Whether it was meant to just kill the Chinese or go around the world I'm not sure,  ultimately it did.

As for the response of many WHO tied in Governments it was largely stupid & again designed to make
Elderly & sick people even more vulnerable by weaking their immune system.

Here in the UK & many corrupt European countries the lies & propaganda was farcical & plain to see to
Anyone with a thinking reasoning mind. And from what I know from my daughter & friends in America
In some states it was pretty much the same crap.

FFS - they told folk to wear a utterly useless face nappy & if you didn't have one your shirt sleeve or jumper
/ scarf would do 🤣😂 - then the virus knew if you were sitting or standing & if you were eating or not 🤣😂
Really fucking clever virus, also it could tell the time & definitely attack you after 10pm 😂🤣
It also knew distance 6ft 🤣😂 & what items you could buy & which way you went round the supermarkets
If you didn't follow the one way system it'd get you 🤣😂 or if you were out on the beach or in a park it'd
Pounce on you it was so lethal in those places police had to beat you & arrest you for your own health 🤣😂
Shall I carry on ?  Yet you fell for all that Bollocks hook line sinker & fishing rod, go on try telling me I'm wrong.

Then came the vaccine out of China of all places - some miracle MRNA crap with Zero testing or clinical
Trials the idiot human guinea-pigs that took it were the clinical trial - hence the batch No.s so side effects
Could be logged to the different dosages as in any clinical trial, zero 50% & 100% & as were clearly seeing
Unfold some folk have Zero sides others have some mild & mild + problems & many others are completely
Fucked up or dead.

And you were a detective yet you couldn't see any of the above or workout what was going on!!
Your closed mind wouldn't let you & being trained to take orders & not question those in supposed
Authority had you captured & easy to Fool.

Now on to hospitals they were not full as most routine ops were cancelled & screenings , ward were empty
The ICU yes they were busy.

Hey what of the Video's of the Zombiefyed dropping dead ?  Were they real ?
Did you see any zombiefyed folk wandering around dropping dead ??
I certainly didn't & I did my utmost to carry on my life as normally as possible & went as many places
As I could & see many folk, Not one Zombie did I see let alone anyone dropping dead in the streets.

Yeah what bothers me is it all went to show how easily many folk are to deceive & go along with
wanting Others dead - no different to 1940s Germany - you wanting the likes of me dead yeah that
bothers me & Angers me a lot.
You clearly learnt nothing from what Germany & Hitler did.