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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #1175 on: October 08, 2021, 03:38:48 PM »
Thanks for the correction. Then it is hard to tell whether Durham lies or not. I was commenting on the fact that the guy in the photo's mouth is completely hidden.

Just like yours when you a slurping & swallowing ...............

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #1176 on: October 08, 2021, 04:02:58 PM »

What matters is that his eyes are open.


I'm sure you and straw want him to get to the bottom of this.  8)

Don't be sure....because you are wrong. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #1177 on: October 08, 2021, 05:39:11 PM »
Don't be sure....because you are wrong.

You should care about arguably the most scandalous abuse of political power in American history.   

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1178 on: October 12, 2021, 06:53:01 PM »
Ratcliffe says 1,000 intel documents given to Durham support more charges
by Daniel Chaitin, Deputy News Editor
Updated Oct 11, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-intelligence-documents-john-durham-charges

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1179 on: October 19, 2021, 09:53:57 PM »
The full story at substack goes into more interesting details, worth a read.

Indicted Clinton lawyer hired CrowdStrike, firm behind dubious Russian hacking claim

The indictment of Hillary Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI sheds new light on the pivotal role of Democratic operatives in the Russiagate affair. The emerging picture shows Sussmann and his Perkins Coie colleague Marc Elias, the chief counsel for Clinton's 2016 campaign, proceeding on parallel, coordinated tracks to solicit and spread disinformation tying Donald Trump to the Kremlin.

In a detailed charging document last month, Special Counsel John Durham accused Sussmann of concealing his work for the Clinton campaign while trying to sell the FBI on the false claim of a secret Trump backchannel to Russia’s Alfa Bank.

But Sussmann's alleged false statement to the FBI in September 2016 wasn't all. Just months before, he helped generate an even more consequential Russia allegation that he also brought to the FBI. In April of that year, Sussmann hired CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that publicly triggered the Russiagate saga by lodging the still unproven claim that Russia was behind the hack of Democratic National Committee emails released by WikiLeaks.

At the time, CrowdStrike was not the only Clinton campaign contractor focusing on Russia. Just days before Sussmann hired CrowdStrike in April, his partner Elias retained the opposition research firm Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump and the Kremlin.

These two Clinton campaign contractors, working directly for two Clinton campaign attorneys, would go on to play highly consequential roles in the ensuing multi-year Russia investigation.

Working secretly for the Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS planted Trump-Russia conspiracy theories in the FBI and US media via its subcontractor, former British spy Christopher Steele. The FBI used the Fusion GPS's now debunked "Steele dossier" for investigative leads and multiple surveillance applications putatively targeting Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page.

CrowdStrike, reporting to Sussmann, also proved critical to the FBI's work. Rather than examine the DNC servers for itself, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike's forensics as mediated by Sussmann.

The FBI's odd relationship with the two Democratic Party contractors gave Sussmann and Elias unprecedented influence over a high-stakes national security scandal that upended U.S. politics and ensnared their political opponents. By hiring CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS, the Perkins Coie lawyers helped define the Trump-Russia narrative and impact the flow of information to the highest reaches of U.S. intelligence agencies.

The established Trump-Russia timeline and the public record, including overlooked sworn testimony, congressional and Justice Department reports, as well as news accounts from the principal recipients of government leaks in the affair, the Washington Post and the New York Times, help to fill in the picture.

https://mate.substack.com/p/indicted-clinton-lawyer-hired-crowdstrike

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1180 on: October 20, 2021, 10:49:31 AM »
The full story at substack goes into more interesting details, worth a read.

Indicted Clinton lawyer hired CrowdStrike, firm behind dubious Russian hacking claim

The indictment of Hillary Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI sheds new light on the pivotal role of Democratic operatives in the Russiagate affair. The emerging picture shows Sussmann and his Perkins Coie colleague Marc Elias, the chief counsel for Clinton's 2016 campaign, proceeding on parallel, coordinated tracks to solicit and spread disinformation tying Donald Trump to the Kremlin.

In a detailed charging document last month, Special Counsel John Durham accused Sussmann of concealing his work for the Clinton campaign while trying to sell the FBI on the false claim of a secret Trump backchannel to Russia’s Alfa Bank.

But Sussmann's alleged false statement to the FBI in September 2016 wasn't all. Just months before, he helped generate an even more consequential Russia allegation that he also brought to the FBI. In April of that year, Sussmann hired CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that publicly triggered the Russiagate saga by lodging the still unproven claim that Russia was behind the hack of Democratic National Committee emails released by WikiLeaks.

At the time, CrowdStrike was not the only Clinton campaign contractor focusing on Russia. Just days before Sussmann hired CrowdStrike in April, his partner Elias retained the opposition research firm Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump and the Kremlin.

These two Clinton campaign contractors, working directly for two Clinton campaign attorneys, would go on to play highly consequential roles in the ensuing multi-year Russia investigation.

Working secretly for the Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS planted Trump-Russia conspiracy theories in the FBI and US media via its subcontractor, former British spy Christopher Steele. The FBI used the Fusion GPS's now debunked "Steele dossier" for investigative leads and multiple surveillance applications putatively targeting Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page.

CrowdStrike, reporting to Sussmann, also proved critical to the FBI's work. Rather than examine the DNC servers for itself, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike's forensics as mediated by Sussmann.

The FBI's odd relationship with the two Democratic Party contractors gave Sussmann and Elias unprecedented influence over a high-stakes national security scandal that upended U.S. politics and ensnared their political opponents. By hiring CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS, the Perkins Coie lawyers helped define the Trump-Russia narrative and impact the flow of information to the highest reaches of U.S. intelligence agencies.

The established Trump-Russia timeline and the public record, including overlooked sworn testimony, congressional and Justice Department reports, as well as news accounts from the principal recipients of government leaks in the affair, the Washington Post and the New York Times, help to fill in the picture.

https://mate.substack.com/p/indicted-clinton-lawyer-hired-crowdstrike

Great info and yes the full article is pretty revealing.  Thanks for posting. 

Dan Bongino was on this trail a while ago, saying it was possible the DNC wasn't actually hacked.  But now we know the claim that it was hacked by "Russia" is unsupported by evidence. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1181 on: October 28, 2021, 06:03:18 PM »
Long but very informative read.

Clinton Campaign Spread Alfa Bank Ruse Throughout Obama Admin to Press Trump-Russia Probe
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
October 28, 2021AP Photo/John Bazemore
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/10/28/clinton_campaign_spread_bogus_alfa_bank_story_obama_admin-wide_to_press_trump-russia_probe_800927.html


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1183 on: November 04, 2021, 03:14:42 PM »
Igor Danchenko Arrested as Part of Durham Investigation
November 4, 2021

The office of Special Counsel John Durham has confirmed that Igor Danchenko, a key source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele, has been arrested. This is the third arrest by Durham who is moving toward the prosecution stage of his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion scandal. Durham is variously described as either painfully methodical or positively glacial as a prosecutor.  But he is widely credited with being a dogged and absolutely apolitical prosecutor. Danchenko’s arrest is a seismic development and confirmed Durham is far from done with his investigation.

Washington was recently rocked by the indictment of Michael Sussman, former counsel for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee, for his alleged role in spreading a false Russia conspiracy theory.

Now Danchenko is being charged with five counts of making false statements.

Danchenko is widely referenced as the sub-source for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele for his controversial dossier. That dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign, served as the basis for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Danchenko told the FBI that the dossier was “unsubstantiated” and said that Steele asked him to look for any “compromising” information on Trump. Mr. Danchenko worked for the Brookings Institution, a liberal Washington think-tank that often produced reports critical of Trump.

Danchenko is not someone who immediately comes across as an apex defendant — the highest target in an investigation. He was a key source used by others to advance false or unsubstantiated claims against Trump. He is the type of defendant that prosecutors pressure to flip against those who retained him or used him in this effort. In other words, he strikes me as someone who can be used as a building block to apex defendants.

Potential apex targets above him in the investigation range from Steele himself to Clinton general counsel Marc Elias to Clinton campaign officials.

The indictment circles around an unnamed figure called PR-Executive-1 who was a close Clinton adviser who held high positions in the Democratic party and prior Clinton campaigns. Most embarrassing are references to the Clinton adviser meeting with possible Russian intelligence figures and other Russian sources, including this line:

PR Executive-1 gifted to Russian Sub-Source-1 an autobiography of Hillary Clinton, which he signed and inscribed with the handwritten message, “To my good friend [first name of Russian Sub-Source-1], A Great Democrat.”

That is one book I think Hillary Clinton would like back.

The indictment describes the individual in this way:

“PR Executive-1 had served as (1) chairman of a national Democratic political organization, (2) state chairman of former President Clinton’s 1992 and 1996 presidential campaigns, and (3) an advisor to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 Presidential campaign. Moreover, beginning in or about 1997, President Clinton appointed PR Executive-! to two four-year terms on an advisory commission at the U.S. State Department. With respect to the 2016 Clinton Campaign, PR Executive-! actively campaigned and participated in calls and events as a volunteer on behalf of Hillary Clinton.”

There is no indication if Durham has possible evidence of criminal acts by those figures but there is every indication that he is not done by a long shot with this investigation.

Here is the indictment: Danchenko indictment

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/fb956512-980f-4f13-8b8f-c26eebb76772/note/5de565a8-06b8-40e8-8572-23d9765d81d2.#page=1

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/04/igor-danchenko-arrested-as-part-of-durham-investigation/

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1184 on: November 04, 2021, 04:15:42 PM »
Igor Danchenko Arrested as Part of Durham Investigation
November 4, 2021

The office of Special Counsel John Durham has confirmed that Igor Danchenko, a key source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele, has been arrested. This is the third arrest by Durham who is moving toward the prosecution stage of his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion scandal. Durham is variously described as either painfully methodical or positively glacial as a prosecutor.  But he is widely credited with being a dogged and absolutely apolitical prosecutor. Danchenko’s arrest is a seismic development and confirmed Durham is far from done with his investigation.

Washington was recently rocked by the indictment of Michael Sussman, former counsel for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee, for his alleged role in spreading a false Russia conspiracy theory.


Now Danchenko is being charged with five counts of making false statements.

Danchenko is widely referenced as the sub-source for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele for his controversial dossier. That dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign, served as the basis for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Danchenko told the FBI that the dossier was “unsubstantiated” and said that Steele asked him to look for any “compromising” information on Trump. Mr. Danchenko worked for the Brookings Institution, a liberal Washington think-tank that often produced reports critical of Trump.

Danchenko is not someone who immediately comes across as an apex defendant — the highest target in an investigation. He was a key source used by others to advance false or unsubstantiated claims against Trump. He is the type of defendant that prosecutors pressure to flip against those who retained him or used him in this effort. In other words, he strikes me as someone who can be used as a building block to apex defendants.

Potential apex targets above him in the investigation range from Steele himself to Clinton general counsel Marc Elias to Clinton campaign officials.

The indictment circles around an unnamed figure called PR-Executive-1 who was a close Clinton adviser who held high positions in the Democratic party and prior Clinton campaigns. Most embarrassing are references to the Clinton adviser meeting with possible Russian intelligence figures and other Russian sources, including this line:

PR Executive-1 gifted to Russian Sub-Source-1 an autobiography of Hillary Clinton, which he signed and inscribed with the handwritten message, “To my good friend [first name of Russian Sub-Source-1], A Great Democrat.”

That is one book I think Hillary Clinton would like back.

The indictment describes the individual in this way:

“PR Executive-1 had served as (1) chairman of a national Democratic political organization, (2) state chairman of former President Clinton’s 1992 and 1996 presidential campaigns, and (3) an advisor to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 Presidential campaign. Moreover, beginning in or about 1997, President Clinton appointed PR Executive-! to two four-year terms on an advisory commission at the U.S. State Department. With respect to the 2016 Clinton Campaign, PR Executive-! actively campaigned and participated in calls and events as a volunteer on behalf of Hillary Clinton.”

There is no indication if Durham has possible evidence of criminal acts by those figures but there is every indication that he is not done by a long shot with this investigation.

Here is the indictment: Danchenko indictment

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/fb956512-980f-4f13-8b8f-c26eebb76772/note/5de565a8-06b8-40e8-8572-23d9765d81d2.#page=1

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/04/igor-danchenko-arrested-as-part-of-durham-investigation/


Since when do Trumptards think lying to the FBI is a crime

Isn't that what this guy did (and pled guilty to as well) and then got a pardon from THE TRAITOR


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1185 on: November 04, 2021, 05:01:54 PM »
Good summary and analysis. 

The Igor Danchenko Indictment
It was all a fraud.
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https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-igor-danchenko-indictment

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1186 on: November 04, 2021, 05:05:15 PM »
This definitely looks like a win for Trump supporters. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1187 on: November 04, 2021, 05:43:07 PM »
This definitely looks like a win for Trump supporters. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

This has absolutely nothing to do with "Trump supporters."  It's about holding people accountable for the biggest political scandal of my lifetime and for breaking the law. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1188 on: November 04, 2021, 06:14:33 PM »
This has absolutely nothing to do with "Trump supporters." It's about holding people accountable for the biggest political scandal of my lifetime and for breaking the law.
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1189 on: November 05, 2021, 04:47:58 AM »
Trump-Trump-Trump--He owns my mind--Trump-Trump-Trump--I will not recover--Trump-Trump-Trump--I hate my life--Trump-Trump-Trump


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1191 on: November 08, 2021, 06:02:32 PM »
He has seen the intel so he would know. 

Ratcliffe expects 'many' more Durham indictments focused on Clinton-Russia 'collusion' dossier
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter |   | November 07, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/ratcliffe-expects-many-more-durham-indictments-focused-on-clinton-russia-collusion-dossier

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1192 on: November 08, 2021, 06:10:44 PM »
Analysis: The Biggest Loser of the Durham Indictments May Be James Comey’s FBI
by Star News Staff | Nov 8, 2021
https://thestarnewsnetwork.com/2021/11/08/the-biggest-loser-of-the-durham-indictments-james-comeys-fbi/

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1193 on: November 09, 2021, 12:41:42 PM »
BREAKING: Biden's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan revealed to be 'foreign policy advisor' named in Sussman indictment
Sullivan is apparently the "foreign policy advisor" in the indictment of Michael Sussman, a former attorney for the Clinton campaign.
Libby Emmons
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November 9, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/bidens-jake-sullivan-foreign-policy-advisor-sussman?utm_campaign=64487

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1194 on: November 09, 2021, 04:59:00 PM »
Trump-Trump-Trump--He owns my mind--Trump-Trump-Trump--I will not recover--Trump-Trump-Trump--I hate my life--Trump-Trump-Trump

I agree

Trump owns your mind (and it doesn't take much to own it)

Isn't this thread about Trump ?

Why don't  you take up your issue with the person who started this thread


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1195 on: November 10, 2021, 02:44:43 AM »
I agree

Trump owns your mind (and it doesn't take much to own it)

Isn't this thread about Trump ?

Why don't  you take up your issue with the person who started this thread
Trump-Trump-Trump-every thread I comment on is-Trump-Trump-Trump-regardless of subject-Trump-Trump-Trump

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1197 on: November 12, 2021, 06:08:14 PM »
A little late.

Washington Post corrects its Steele dossier reporting going back more than four years
JOHN SEXTON
Nov 12, 2021
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/11/12/washington-post-corrects-its-steele-dossier-reporting-going-back-more-than-four-years-n428906

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« Reply #1198 on: November 12, 2021, 06:12:13 PM »
Trump-Trump-Trump-every thread I comment on is-Trump-Trump-Trump-regardless of subject-Trump-Trump-Trump

Who? Never heard of this person.  :)

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)
« Reply #1199 on: November 17, 2021, 07:32:35 PM »
Adam Schiff, Steele dossier and the death of shame in American politics
Schiff's 'Meet the Press' interview may be final proof of the death of shame in American politics
By Jonathan Turley | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/adam-schiff-steele-dossier-death-shame-jonathan-turley