Helping poor Iraqis will help ensure the other things you talk about. And for months I have agreed with you to pull out of the cities and have commended you for not being a pull out completely puss. If you could get past your blind hatred for me and try to remember the conversations we have had it would make debating alot easier. But again you ignore the OUR security side that he brought up, that in his quote he mentioned first and foremost so he must feel that is our first concern.
I don't hate ya at all. I mean, you're fun to fck with, I can get a rise out of you just like many people mess with me because I respond.
Of course, security always comes first. But I think we worry about different things. I disagree whtn Bush says "if we don't fight them there, we'll fight them here." As McCaffrey noted, there only a maxiumum of 500 foreign fighters and 2000 al-Q in iraq. The rest of the people are fighting each other. Sunnis and shiites are not going to fly to Cali or NYC to shoot each other. They can do it there.
I think bringing 130,000 of our men home would easily guard the borders, airports, and valuable targets against those 2500 pricks (or whatever smaller % ever could get a ticket to the US).
But aside from 9/11 (and you know how I feel about the "let it happen" nature of that one), we don't get attacked here - we get attacked THERE, where, well, they resent us taking their resources.