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::) yet another loss handed to Trumpy and Qoach
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Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich's election fraud investigation turns up bupkis.
Brnovich had his investigators conduct their own investigation of what is probably the most investigated election … anywhere … ever.
And in a report handed over to Arizona Senate President Karen Fann – who orchestrated the ongoing Cyber Ninjas audit disaster – Brnovich reports that his investigation revealed “serious vulnerabilities.”
Actually, what it seems to have revealed is serious political BS on the part of Brnovich.
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer (a Republican who gained office in that 2020 election) responded with a quick Twitter answer to Brnovich’s claims.
Richer and the county’s Republican-controlled board of supervisors have responded, and responded, and responded to claims of fraud
Never finding a serious problem after multiple independent reviews.
County recorder speaks truth about Brnovich's probe
But, as Richer points out in his tweet thread concerning Brnovich’s probe:
“I remember spending many, many hours working with investigators on our entire tech stack. Looking at questions like internet connectivity and data deletion. I guess the answers to those don’t fit the narrative … .”
Richer goes on to explain or debunk what Brnovich’s minions came up with and ends his Twitter thread response with the most important point.
Richer says of Brnovich’s report, “But most importantly, it, rightfully, doesn’t say anything about a stolen election or unlawful acts by election workers … .”
And, he adds, “All of this seems appropriate as it’s coming from the man who (rightfully) laughed off notions of a stolen election on Fox News that people simply split their ticket (which is how we still have a Republican legislature).”
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So now what? A "lol"? Or "oh boy..."? Or "you just don't get it"? hahahahahhaaha
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Wow look at all those threads about how great life is under the regime of biden. ::)
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Wow look at all those threads about how great life is under the regime of biden. ::)
My life is great. Sorry yours isn't.
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My life is great. Sorry yours isn't.
No dishonest liars life is great…only in their heads
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No dishonest liars life is great…only in their heads
Exactly. We all know you are absolutely miserable. There is no other reason you constantly scour the internet every single minute of the day looking for crap material to run over here and post to whine about.
You lie for yourself. Not us. We already know you have no credibility anyway.
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My life is great. Sorry yours isn't.
I'm so bloody "jelaous" of yours life "style" :'( :'( :'(
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I'm so bloody "jelaous" of yours life "style" :'( :'( :'(
And you should be. And you are "jealous" too. Unlike your dumb ass I'm an American. I don't have to pretend to be some pussy ass German with multiple accounts on here like you do.
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And you should be. And you are "jealous" too. Unlike your dumb ass I'm an American. I don't have to pretend to be some pussy ass German with multiple accounts on here like you do.
Yah,yeah I'm also 'jealous' that you have a president like Joe Biden .............. ;D
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Yah,yeah I'm also 'jealous' that you have a president like Joe Biden .............. ;D
You should be. No matter who is President. The thing about America, is that we have the opportunity to change our President every four years. Unlike you who can't change your nationality. Yeah I know how much it must suck for you to sit on the internet and be jealous of us.
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You should be. No matter who is President. The thing about America, is that we have the opportunity to change our President every four years. Unlike you who can't change your nationality. Yeah I know how much it must suck for you to sit on the internet and be jealous of us.
The worst part is that he can't even do it from his mom's basement. He had to ride his motor scooter to the local internet cafe and hope the wait for a computer isn't too long.
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The worst part is that he can't even do it from his mom's basement. He had to ride his motor scooter to the local internet cafe and hope the wait for a computer isn't too long.
Even worse is after doing it, no one notices. He doesn't seem to grasp that no one on here talks to him or interacts with him for the most part. He's just creepy weird.
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You should be. No matter who is President. The thing about America, is that we have the opportunity to change our President every four years. Unlike you who can't change your nationality. Yeah I know how much it must suck for you to sit on the internet and be jealous of us.
Looks like yours president Brandon will not last 4 years , :'(
Yeah, BoB I'm super 'jelaous' of yours Indian VP Kamala too ;D
Hey Bob, do U know why Miss Lube Oil 1921 canceled her trip to Taiwan (too 'YOUNG' to travel or ......) :D
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The worst part is that he can't even do it from his mom's basement. He had to ride his motor scooter to the local internet cafe and hope the wait for a computer isn't too long.
;D ah, Massoud no basements in my village , internet cafe WTF ??? , they still exist ::)
Very soon I'm gonna tour Vietnam on Royal Enfield , U should meet me @ Dien Bien Phu or Long Tan 8)
How is family in Kandahar !. ;D
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My life is great. Sorry yours isn't.
You vote democrat, your life can't be great.
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Looks like yours president Brandon will not last 4 years , :'(
Yeah, BoB I'm super 'jelaous' of yours Indian VP Kamala too ;D
Hey Bob, do U know why Miss Lube Oil 1921 canceled her trip to Taiwan (too 'YOUNG' to travel or ......) :D
Looks like you are wrong. Again.
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You vote democrat, your life can't be great.
You whine on the internet about me voting Democrat. So it must be better than yours.
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You whine on the internet about me voting Democrat. So it must be better than yours.
You whine incessantly on the internet about Trump and Trump supporters. I win. 8)
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You vote democrat, your life can't be great.
he has no life, a looser on here and a bigger loser in real life.
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You whine incessantly on the internet about Trump and Trump supporters. I win. 8)
If posting facts = whining, then you lose. Again.
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he has no life, a looser on here and a bigger loser in real life.
Shut up you illiterate Muslim. You are not part of American politics anyway. Bitch ass Mo-HUM-ed guy.
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Looks like you are wrong. Again.
I was 'wrong' about Russian Bounty Hunters in Afghanistan too ........... ;D ;D ;D
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I was 'wrong' about Russian Bounty Hunters in Afghanistan too ........... ;D ;D ;D
Yes you were. Why you continue to keep bringing that up, I don't know. Perhaps you should do a search on here and show us who said that? Or are you too stupid to do that?
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Perhaps you should do a search on here and show us who said that?
YOU BoB !.
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YOU BoB !.
Then it should be easy for you to quote me and show us. BiTCH.
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BiTCH.
give that title to your mammy
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give that title to your mammy
It's more appropriate for a jealous pussy ass Nazi wannabe. Like you.
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It's more appropriate for a jealous pussy ass Nazi wannabe. Like you.
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BoB, go to local GP & ask for some anti-stress tablets ;)
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::) yet another loss handed to Trumpy and Qoach
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Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich's election fraud investigation turns up bupkis.
Brnovich had his investigators conduct their own investigation of what is probably the most investigated election … anywhere … ever.
And in a report handed over to Arizona Senate President Karen Fann – who orchestrated the ongoing Cyber Ninjas audit disaster – Brnovich reports that his investigation revealed “serious vulnerabilities.”
Actually, what it seems to have revealed is serious political BS on the part of Brnovich.
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer (a Republican who gained office in that 2020 election) responded with a quick Twitter answer to Brnovich’s claims.
Richer and the county’s Republican-controlled board of supervisors have responded, and responded, and responded to claims of fraud
Never finding a serious problem after multiple independent reviews.
County recorder speaks truth about Brnovich's probe
But, as Richer points out in his tweet thread concerning Brnovich’s probe:
“I remember spending many, many hours working with investigators on our entire tech stack. Looking at questions like internet connectivity and data deletion. I guess the answers to those don’t fit the narrative … .”
Richer goes on to explain or debunk what Brnovich’s minions came up with and ends his Twitter thread response with the most important point.
Richer says of Brnovich’s report, “But most importantly, it, rightfully, doesn’t say anything about a stolen election or unlawful acts by election workers … .”
And, he adds, “All of this seems appropriate as it’s coming from the man who (rightfully) laughed off notions of a stolen election on Fox News that people simply split their ticket (which is how we still have a Republican legislature).”
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So now what? A "lol"? Or "oh boy..."? Or "you just don't get it"? hahahahahhaaha
If you search the congressional hearings on this on YT, and watch something that was live, you will find that the AG of AZ and elections commissioner admitted b4 Congress that they deleted the files.......and that that was not normal for them to do. Fuck yourself.
If I was a leftist that voted for Biden, at this point I would be like "yeah, must have been something off....this guy is a fucking idiot and things are way worse"
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It's more appropriate for a jealous pussy ass Nazi wannabe. Like you.
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get some brain food signore BoB
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If you search the congressional hearings on this on YT, and watch something that was live, you will find that the AG of AZ and elections commissioner admitted b4 Congress that they deleted the files.......and that that was not normal for them to do. Fuck yourself.
If I was a leftist that voted for Biden, at this point I would be like "yeah, must have been something off....this guy is a fucking idiot and things are way worse"
You mean these guys did something unethical in an election? Are these guys Republicans? :D
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Oh, NO some Easter Bunny @ the White House confused Senile Joe , ;D ;D ;D
Planet Earth is ;D ;D ;D again !.
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Now all they have to do is count the actual ballots
Hey - do you know why this dude changed his name to Jovan Hutton Pulitzer
His birth name was Jeffry Jovan Philyaw
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Now all they have to do is count the actual ballots
Hey - do you know why this dude changed his name to Jovan Hutton Pulitzer
His birth name was Jeffry Jovan Philyaw
Who cares.
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Who cares.
apparently he cared
It's not surprising that Trumptards such as yourself would be fooled by this charlatan
After all, believing a con man is the essence of Trumptardism
You should call him and see if he still has any bottled rainwater for sale or some $100,000 crystals for sale
As the chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Digital Convergence,[11] Pulitzer released the CueCat, a wired, handheld device that scanned barcodes printed in newspapers and other publications to allow readers to go directly to linked content on the then-nascent web without typing in the URL. Despite investments of $185 million from Radio Shack,[12] Coca Cola, General Motors,[4] Belo, and others, it was a commercial failure and sales never recovered after the discovery of a major security flaw and privacy breaches in 2000. It was one of the most ridiculed products of the dotcom era, and he changed his name following its failure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Hutton_Pulitzer
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Hahahhaha poor Qoach desperately clinging to any bullshit he can find.
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Hahahhaha poor Qoach desperately clinging to any bullshit he can find.
Yep
Business as usual for our phony "coach"
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apparently he cared
It's not surprising that Trumptards such as yourself would be fooled by this charlatan
After all, believing a con man is the essence of Trumptardism
You should call him and see if he still has any bottled rainwater for sale or some $100,000 crystals for sale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Hutton_Pulitzer
What do you care? How did his name change impact your life? Are you going to change your name?
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What do you care? How did his name change impact your life? Are you going to change your name?
I care because this con man is spreading ludicrous lies undermining the integrity of our election and thus our Democracy.
I wonder if we, as a society, should intervene to protect the dumber people in our society, such as yourself and the phony "coach" from people like this
You're clearly too stupid to protect yourself from falling for this kind of bullshit
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I care because this con man is spreading ludicrous lies undermining the integrity of our election and thus our Democracy.
I wonder if we, as a society, should intervene to protect the dumber people in our society, such as yourself and the phony "coach" from people like this
You're clearly too stupid to protect yourself from falling for this kind of bullshit
It doesn't impact you, you're making an issue out of nothing. Typical of a bitch ass pussy like you.
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apparently he cared
It's not surprising that Trumptards such as yourself would be fooled by this charlatan
After all, believing a con man is the essence of Trumptardism
You should call him and see if he still has any bottled rainwater for sale or some $100,000 crystals for sale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Hutton_Pulitzer
Wikipedia lol
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apparently he cared
It's not surprising that Trumptards such as yourself would be fooled by this charlatan
After all, believing a con man is the essence of Trumptardism
You should call him and see if he still has any bottled rainwater for sale or some $100,000 crystals for sale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Hutton_Pulitzer
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Hahahhaha poor Qoach desperately clinging to any bullshit he can find.
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Hahahhaha poor Qoach desperately clinging to any bullshit he can find.
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It doesn't impact you, you're making an issue out of nothing. Typical of a bitch ass pussy like you.
Anyone who is undermining our Democracy impacts everyone in this country...assuming they actually care about Democracy
It obvious why you might be confused since we know that Trumptards don't actually care about Democracy
Also, I hate liars and grifters and I feel sympathy for my fellow Americans such as yourself who are too stupid to be able to defend themselves from getting sucked into believing lying liars
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Why are you posting this nonsense again
Do you have Alzheimer's?
Long covid also include the possibility of brain damage and your brain was already damaged at birth so you're probably even more susceptible
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Why are you posting this nonsense again
Do you have Alzheimer's?
Long covid also include the possibility of brain damage and your brain was already damaged at birth so you're probably even more susceptible
He has to grasp onto something to justify the whining he does on here. Doesn't matter to Qoach if it is true or not.
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BoB how was pasta primavera ............... ;D
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It's more appropriate for a jealous pussy ass Nazi wannabe. Like you.
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BoB, yours 'opinion' is priceless !.
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Unlike you that is how most people feel when they see dead bodies lying in the street in Ukraine
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Anyone who is undermining our Democracy impacts everyone in this country...assuming they actually care about Democracy
It obvious why you might be confused since we know that Trumptards don't actually care about Democracy
Also, I hate liars and grifters and I feel sympathy for my fellow Americans such as yourself who are too stupid to be able to defend themselves from getting sucked into believing lying liars
You hate liars, yet you voted for and support a lying career politician that has 50 years of racist lies to choose from? You're too dumb to realize how stupid you sound. You don't care about democracy, you and your ilk only care about control.
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Unlike you that is how most people feel when they see dead bodies lying in the street in Ukraine
Hey BoB , why don't you COPYRIGHT those images , you took them didn't YOU BoB !.
Oh BoB, that Easter Bunny @ the White House was 'REAL' too ;)
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Well, well... what have we here?
And the board retards kept whining about "Arizona... Arizona....". ::)
Looks like they were wrong. Again. To the surprise of no one.
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Former Arizona AG sat on records refuting election fraud.
Arizona's former attorney general suppressed findings by his investigators who concluded there was no basis for allegations that the 2020 election was marred by widespread fraud, according to documents released Wednesday by his successor.
Democratic Attorney General Kris Mayes, who took office last month, said the records show the 2020 election “was conducted fairly and accurately by election officials.”
Previous Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican, never released a March 2022 summary of investigative findings, which ruled out most of the fraud claims spread by allies and supporters of former President Donald Trump. Yet a month later, he released an “interim report" that claimed his investigation “revealed serious vulnerabilities that must be addressed and raises questions about the 2020 election in Arizona."
He released his April report despite pushback from his investigators who said some of its claims were refuted by their probe. Brnovich was at the time in the midst of a Republican Party primary for U.S. Senate and facing fierce criticism from Trump, who claimed he wasn't doing enough to prosecute election fraud.
Brnovich, whose primary bid was unsuccessful, also did not release a September memo that systematically refuted a bevy of election conspiracies that have taken root on the right, including allegations of dead or duplicate voters, pre-marked ballots flown in from Asia, election servers connected to the internet and even manipulation by satellites controlled by the Italian military.
“In each instance and in each matter, the aforementioned parties did not provide any evidence to support their allegations,” the September memo read. “The information that was provided was speculative in many instances and when investigated by our agents and support staff, was found to be inaccurate.”
The September memo, which was among the documents released Wednesday, describes an all-encompassing probe that became the top priority for the attorney general's investigators, who spent more than 10,000 hours looking into 638 complaints. They opened 430 investigations and referred 22 cases for prosecution. President Joe Biden won Arizona by a little over 10,000 votes.
Mayes said the fraud claims were a waste.
“The ten thousand plus hours spent diligently investigating every conspiracy theory under the sun distracted this office from its core mission of protecting the people of Arizona from real crime and fraud," Mayes said in a statement.
Brnovich's “interim report” claimed that election officials worked too quickly in verifying voter signatures and pointed to a drop in the number of ballots with rejected signatures between 2016 and 2018 and again in 2020. He also claimed that Maricopa County was slow in responding to requests for information.
He made those claims even after investigators who reviewed a draft pushed back, publishing his report largely unchanged following their feedback.
The investigative staff concluded that the county recorder's office “followed its policy/procedures as they relate to signature verification; we did not uncover any criminality or fraud having been committed in this area during the 2020 general election," investigators wrote. They also said they found the county “was cooperative and responsive to our requests.”
Arizona became the epicenter of efforts by Trump allies to cast doubt on Biden's victory. Republican leaders of the state Senate subpoenaed election records and equipment and hired a Florida firm led by a Trump supporter, Cyber Ninjas Inc., to conduct an unprecedented review of the election in Maricopa County.
The Cyber Ninjas review gave Biden more votes than the official count but claimed that their work raised serious questions about the conduct of the election in Maricopa County, home to metro Phoenix and the majority of Arizona's voters. The investigation by the attorney general's office found the allegations did not stand up to scrutiny.
“Our comprehensive review of CNI’s audit showed they did not provide any evidence to support their allegations of widespread fraud or ballot manipulation,” Brnovich's investigators wrote.
Thursday's release is the latest confirmation that there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election and that Biden won the presidency legitimately. Trump continues to repeat his lie that the election was stolen from him as he mounts his third bid for the White House, despite reviews and audits saying otherwise in the battleground states he contested and his own administration officials debunking his claims.
Officials in Maricopa County, where nearly all the officials overseeing elections are Republicans, say they endured death threats and verbal abuse due to the suggestions of malfeasance in the Cyber Ninjas review and Brnovich's “interim report."
“This was a gross misuse of his elected office and an appalling waste of taxpayer dollars, as well as a waste of the time and effort of professional investigators,” Clint Hickman, the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors said in a statement.
Brnovich's investigators did conclude that Maricopa County officials did not uniformly follow state election procedures when filling out forms to document the pickup and transport of mail ballots. But they said the errors were procedural and that “investigators did not find anything that would (have) compromised the integrity of the ballots or the final ballot count.”
Investigators interviewed two Republican state lawmakers who publicly claimed they knew of fraud in the election, but wrote that neither Rep. Mark Finchem nor Sen. Sonny Borrelli repeated their claims to investigators — when they could have been subject to criminal charges for false reporting to law enforcement. The investigators said a third lawmaker, Republican state Sen. Wendy Rogers, declined to speak with them.
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hahahahaha. Everyone wants to talk and flap their gums, but just not under oath.
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I assume it's about how Russia is intimidated by Biden and pulling out of Ukraine?
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Wouldn't be the first time you assumed wrong.
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*crickets* from the election deniers. hahahaha
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Not peep on here either. :D
These retards need to be held accountable for the money wasted on this bullshit.
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No stolen election. And no apologies from Wendy Rogers and the conspiracy squad.
The truth is out and we now know that Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s year-long investigation turned up no evidence of a stolen election in Arizona in 2020.
I can only imagine the relief felt by some of the state’s leading election deniers.
The politicians and self-proclaimed “experts,” people who have spent well over two years howling at the moon about a stolen election and the need to restore “election integrity.”
Legislative leaders who have spent millions in public funds hoping to uncover fraud – Republicans who are now working on dozens of bills to “reform” our elections and boost the voter confidence that they worked daily to undermine.
The secret is out. The Attorney General’s Office spent more than 10,000 hours investigating hundreds upon hundreds of complaints and the result?
“No evidence of election fraud, manipulation of the election process, or any instances of organized/coordinated fraud,” according to a September report from the AG’s chief investigator – the second of two reports kept hidden from the public until this week.
Well, I’m sure you can imagine the reaction of all those who have spent the last two-plus years slandering state and county elections workers and trying to invalidate Arizona’s vote.
Let’s hear from a few of them.
We’ll start with the queen of election denial.
Sen. Wendy Rogers spent two years calling for decertification of the 2020 election and “perp walks” of the (supposed) criminals who denied Donald Trump his due. She quickly became a rock star on the right, raising millions in campaign donations and scoring the chairmanship of this year’s Senate Elections Committee.
Here’s what Rogers had to say after Wednesday’s release of the AG’s findings:
Nothing.
Meanwhile on Thursday, Rogers was hosting an all-day joint meeting of the House and Senate election committees to explore various schemes to gain control after our supposedly stolen elections, including the nutty notion that the Legislature can overturn a presidential vote.
Or, as I like to call it, Conspiracy Fest 2023.
Mark Finchem says investigators are lying
Let us turn now to former Rep. Mark Finchem, one of the state’s earliest and loudest of the Stop the Steal shriekers.
Finchem leveraged his outrage to land the GOP nomination for the state’s No. 2 job in 2022 – in part by publicly claiming to have evidence of 30,000 fraudulent votes in Pima County.
Yet in a meeting with the AG’s investigators, “Finchem did not repeat those allegations, specifically stating he did not have any evidence of fraud and he did not wish to take up our time.”
Finchem actually tried to decertify the 2020 election, so I can only imagine how chastened he must now feel.
Finchem’s only response was to claim he did so hand over evidence.
“I am disgusted by the claim,” Finchem told The Arizona Republic. “When the AG has the evidence, but claims they don’t, it is impossible for me to disprove the claim. Original documentation is in the AG’s hands.”
Investigators acknowledged in their report that Finchem did, indeed, provide some information.
“He did provide 4 ballots that he said was evidence of a flawed process for mailing and counting ballots,” the report notes. “The ballots had been mailed to prior residents of the address on file, the residents had moved, and the ballots cannot be forwarded by the postal service.”
Agents concluded the four ballots were unopened and were not counted.
Karen Fann ignores the September report
Former Senate President Karen Fann in September 2021 asked Brnovich to investigate after receiving the results of her Cyber Ninjas audit, noting, among her concerns, statements that Maricopa County hid data from her auditors.
The AG’s investigation turned up no evidence of that, though they left the finding in their initial March 2022 report as “undetermined” pending a review of archived records.
Fann’s response on Wednesday was to retweet a post that jumped on that initial finding, ignoring the investigators’ later September 2022 report. The one that provided a scathing analysis of the Cyber Ninja audit, saying “in each instance, the information provided by CNI (Cyber Ninjas Inc.) was inaccurate and false.”
Kari Lake still thinks there's conspiracy afoot
Kari Lake built an entire political campaign around her belief that the election was stolen. Her “war room” campaign's Twitter account glommed onto several instances in which investigators, in that earlier March 2022 report, noted no findings pending a review of archived records.
Naturally, Lake thinks there’s a conspiracy afoot, courtesy of Democratic Attorney General Kris Mayes, to hide the fraud.
“As @JenWEsq points out this 'debunking' of election fraud @krismayes put out is incomplete Why? Because Maricopa County refused to cooperate with ANY investigation They are celebrating being ‘vindicated’ because they successfully ran out the clock on @GeneralBrnovich’s tenure,” Kari Lake War Room tweeted.
Sonny Borrelli clings to dead voter claim
Sen. Sonny Borrelli was quick to claim a coverup in 2020 and in 2021 and in 2022. Just last week, he was pushing a bill to cancel everybody’s voter registration, noting the legion of dead voters who cast ballots in our state.
But when it came time to offer up proof?
“Senator Borrelli provided the name of a deceased voter whom he said he personally checked and the information was valid,” the AG investigators noted. “When we looked further into that particular voter, it was learned Mr. Borrelli was incorrect.”
Borrelli said his own investigation of 30 ballots turned up 17 dead voters. The AG's Office is just trying to distract people from the Senate's ongoing investigation into the election.
Warren Petersen says not a word
Senate President Warren Petersen was a driving force behind the scenes in pushing for the Cyber Ninjas audit.
He appointed Wendy Rogers as the Republicans’ point person on election bills this year and proceeded to contract with Gina Swoboda to assist her.
Swoboda, who is big in election denial circles and has ties to both the Trump and Lake campaigns, is being paid $15,000 a month to act as a senior policy adviser to Rogers’ Elections Committee, according to records unearthed by reporter Dillon Rosenblatt on his Fourth Estate 48 Substack.
Petersen’s response to the AG’s findings?
Nothing.
Would an apology be too much to ask?
How about a few of our fake electors, state Sens. Jake Hoffman and Anthony Kern and former state GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward – extremists who blatantly schemed up a plan to rob us of our vote?
Nope, nothing.
Finally, let’s cut to U.S. Reps. Paul Gosar, Andy Biggs and Debbie Lesko, who actually voted on Jan. 6, 2021, to reject Arizona’s presidential election results.
Alas, they, too, are silent.
Curiously, outrageously silent about the AG’s investigation that debunked the bunk they have been force-feeding us for far, far too long. Astonishing silent about the frightening fact that they staged an assault on democracy.
Oh, I know. It would be too much to ask for perp walks.
But how about a few apologies?
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But how about a few apologies?
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We're sorry Trump hurt you so badly that he lives rent free in that blue haired head of yours. Have you sought therapy yet or do you self medicate with lattes and internet whining?
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We're sorry Trump hurt you so badly that he lives rent free in that blue haired head of yours. Have you sought therapy yet or do you self medicate with lattes and internet whining?
We're sorry Trumpy influenced you so badly that you live rent free with your head up his orange ass. Have you sought therapy yet or do you self medicate with edema meds and internet TDfS?
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If it were not for the constant defense, distraction, and off topic TDfS posts from chaos, Titty Knot, and Qoach, this thread would not have made it to a second page.
We on page 3 and not a single one can address the thread topic. :D
To the surprise of no one.
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We're sorry Trump hurt you so badly that he lives rent free in that blue haired head of yours. Have you sought therapy yet or do you self medicate with lattes and internet whining?
The maggot has no life, get big is his pathetic life...
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The maggot has no life, get big is his pathetic life...
And yet a better life than a gay muslim foreign c
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We on page 3 and not a single one can address the thread topic. :D
To the surprise of no one.
One guy does an investigation, shows “serious vulnerabilities” and another guy makes a tweet on the internet and you believe the guy making the tweet over the guy that did the investigation. Sounds on par for someone with your low IQ.
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No, I believe the year long investigation.
"The truth is out and we now know that Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s year-long investigation turned up no evidence of a stolen election in Arizona in 2020."
The fact that you thought otherwise might be something to consider the next time you talk about someone's IQ. That extra cranium of yours sure doesn't hold any extra brainium apparently.
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No, I believe the year long investigation.
"The truth is out and we now know that Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s year-long investigation turned up no evidence of a stolen election in Arizona in 2020."
The fact that you thought otherwise might be something to consider the next time you talk about someone's IQ. That extra cranium of yours sure doesn't hold any extra brainium apparently.
Why did you make that quote up? Another leftist lie? For a guy that claims to not be low IQ, you can't even post a link to the real, unbiased, uncensored article. ::)
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Why did you make that quote up? Another leftist lie? For a guy that claims to not be low IQ, you can't even post a link to the real, unbiased, uncensored article. ::)
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Not peep on here either. :D
These retards need to be held accountable for the money wasted on this bullshit.
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No stolen election. And no apologies from Wendy Rogers and the conspiracy squad.
The truth is out and we now know that Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s year-long investigation turned up no evidence of a stolen election in Arizona in 2020.
I can only imagine the relief felt by some of the state’s leading election deniers.
The politicians and self-proclaimed “experts,” people who have spent well over two years howling at the moon about a stolen election and the need to restore “election integrity.”
Legislative leaders who have spent millions in public funds hoping to uncover fraud – Republicans who are now working on dozens of bills to “reform” our elections and boost the voter confidence that they worked daily to undermine.
The secret is out. The Attorney General’s Office spent more than 10,000 hours investigating hundreds upon hundreds of complaints and the result?
“No evidence of election fraud, manipulation of the election process, or any instances of organized/coordinated fraud,” according to a September report from the AG’s chief investigator – the second of two reports kept hidden from the public until this week.
Well, I’m sure you can imagine the reaction of all those who have spent the last two-plus years slandering state and county elections workers and trying to invalidate Arizona’s vote.
Let’s hear from a few of them.
We’ll start with the queen of election denial.
Sen. Wendy Rogers spent two years calling for decertification of the 2020 election and “perp walks” of the (supposed) criminals who denied Donald Trump his due. She quickly became a rock star on the right, raising millions in campaign donations and scoring the chairmanship of this year’s Senate Elections Committee.
Here’s what Rogers had to say after Wednesday’s release of the AG’s findings:
Nothing.
Meanwhile on Thursday, Rogers was hosting an all-day joint meeting of the House and Senate election committees to explore various schemes to gain control after our supposedly stolen elections, including the nutty notion that the Legislature can overturn a presidential vote.
Or, as I like to call it, Conspiracy Fest 2023.
Mark Finchem says investigators are lying
Let us turn now to former Rep. Mark Finchem, one of the state’s earliest and loudest of the Stop the Steal shriekers.
Finchem leveraged his outrage to land the GOP nomination for the state’s No. 2 job in 2022 – in part by publicly claiming to have evidence of 30,000 fraudulent votes in Pima County.
Yet in a meeting with the AG’s investigators, “Finchem did not repeat those allegations, specifically stating he did not have any evidence of fraud and he did not wish to take up our time.”
Finchem actually tried to decertify the 2020 election, so I can only imagine how chastened he must now feel.
Finchem’s only response was to claim he did so hand over evidence.
“I am disgusted by the claim,” Finchem told The Arizona Republic. “When the AG has the evidence, but claims they don’t, it is impossible for me to disprove the claim. Original documentation is in the AG’s hands.”
Investigators acknowledged in their report that Finchem did, indeed, provide some information.
“He did provide 4 ballots that he said was evidence of a flawed process for mailing and counting ballots,” the report notes. “The ballots had been mailed to prior residents of the address on file, the residents had moved, and the ballots cannot be forwarded by the postal service.”
Agents concluded the four ballots were unopened and were not counted.
Karen Fann ignores the September report
Former Senate President Karen Fann in September 2021 asked Brnovich to investigate after receiving the results of her Cyber Ninjas audit, noting, among her concerns, statements that Maricopa County hid data from her auditors.
The AG’s investigation turned up no evidence of that, though they left the finding in their initial March 2022 report as “undetermined” pending a review of archived records.
Fann’s response on Wednesday was to retweet a post that jumped on that initial finding, ignoring the investigators’ later September 2022 report. The one that provided a scathing analysis of the Cyber Ninja audit, saying “in each instance, the information provided by CNI (Cyber Ninjas Inc.) was inaccurate and false.”
Kari Lake still thinks there's conspiracy afoot
Kari Lake built an entire political campaign around her belief that the election was stolen. Her “war room” campaign's Twitter account glommed onto several instances in which investigators, in that earlier March 2022 report, noted no findings pending a review of archived records.
Naturally, Lake thinks there’s a conspiracy afoot, courtesy of Democratic Attorney General Kris Mayes, to hide the fraud.
“As @JenWEsq points out this 'debunking' of election fraud @krismayes put out is incomplete Why? Because Maricopa County refused to cooperate with ANY investigation They are celebrating being ‘vindicated’ because they successfully ran out the clock on @GeneralBrnovich’s tenure,” Kari Lake War Room tweeted.
Sonny Borrelli clings to dead voter claim
Sen. Sonny Borrelli was quick to claim a coverup in 2020 and in 2021 and in 2022. Just last week, he was pushing a bill to cancel everybody’s voter registration, noting the legion of dead voters who cast ballots in our state.
But when it came time to offer up proof?
“Senator Borrelli provided the name of a deceased voter whom he said he personally checked and the information was valid,” the AG investigators noted. “When we looked further into that particular voter, it was learned Mr. Borrelli was incorrect.”
Borrelli said his own investigation of 30 ballots turned up 17 dead voters. The AG's Office is just trying to distract people from the Senate's ongoing investigation into the election.
Warren Petersen says not a word
Senate President Warren Petersen was a driving force behind the scenes in pushing for the Cyber Ninjas audit.
He appointed Wendy Rogers as the Republicans’ point person on election bills this year and proceeded to contract with Gina Swoboda to assist her.
Swoboda, who is big in election denial circles and has ties to both the Trump and Lake campaigns, is being paid $15,000 a month to act as a senior policy adviser to Rogers’ Elections Committee, according to records unearthed by reporter Dillon Rosenblatt on his Fourth Estate 48 Substack.
Petersen’s response to the AG’s findings?
Nothing.
Would an apology be too much to ask?
How about a few of our fake electors, state Sens. Jake Hoffman and Anthony Kern and former state GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward – extremists who blatantly schemed up a plan to rob us of our vote?
Nope, nothing.
Finally, let’s cut to U.S. Reps. Paul Gosar, Andy Biggs and Debbie Lesko, who actually voted on Jan. 6, 2021, to reject Arizona’s presidential election results.
Alas, they, too, are silent.
Curiously, outrageously silent about the AG’s investigation that debunked the bunk they have been force-feeding us for far, far too long. Astonishing silent about the frightening fact that they staged an assault on democracy.
Oh, I know. It would be too much to ask for perp walks.
But how about a few apologies?
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Again.... all cranium, no brainium. No comprehensive reading skills either. I mean, literally... it was the THIRD SENTENCE in the article. TDfS + ADHD must be a total bitch to live with.
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We on page 3 and not a single one can address the thread topic. :D
Since you're now quoting a different post, why not post the link to that completely unbiased, trustworthy and neutral news source?
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::) yet another loss handed to Trumpy and Qoach
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Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich's election fraud investigation turns up bupkis.
Brnovich had his investigators conduct their own investigation of what is probably the most investigated election … anywhere … ever.
And in a report handed over to Arizona Senate President Karen Fann – who orchestrated the ongoing Cyber Ninjas audit disaster – Brnovich reports that his investigation revealed “serious vulnerabilities.”
Actually, what it seems to have revealed is serious political BS on the part of Brnovich.
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer (a Republican who gained office in that 2020 election) responded with a quick Twitter answer to Brnovich’s claims.
Richer and the county’s Republican-controlled board of supervisors have responded, and responded, and responded to claims of fraud
Never finding a serious problem after multiple independent reviews.
County recorder speaks truth about Brnovich's probe
But, as Richer points out in his tweet thread concerning Brnovich’s probe:
“I remember spending many, many hours working with investigators on our entire tech stack. Looking at questions like internet connectivity and data deletion. I guess the answers to those don’t fit the narrative … .”
Richer goes on to explain or debunk what Brnovich’s minions came up with and ends his Twitter thread response with the most important point.
Richer says of Brnovich’s report, “But most importantly, it, rightfully, doesn’t say anything about a stolen election or unlawful acts by election workers … .”
And, he adds, “All of this seems appropriate as it’s coming from the man who (rightfully) laughed off notions of a stolen election on Fox News that people simply split their ticket (which is how we still have a Republican legislature).”
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So now what? A "lol"? Or "oh boy..."? Or "you just don't get it"? hahahahahhaaha
Well, well... what have we here?
And the board retards kept whining about "Arizona... Arizona....". ::)
Looks like they were wrong. Again. To the surprise of no one.
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Former Arizona AG sat on records refuting election fraud.
Arizona's former attorney general suppressed findings by his investigators who concluded there was no basis for allegations that the 2020 election was marred by widespread fraud, according to documents released Wednesday by his successor.
Democratic Attorney General Kris Mayes, who took office last month, said the records show the 2020 election “was conducted fairly and accurately by election officials.”
Previous Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican, never released a March 2022 summary of investigative findings, which ruled out most of the fraud claims spread by allies and supporters of former President Donald Trump. Yet a month later, he released an “interim report" that claimed his investigation “revealed serious vulnerabilities that must be addressed and raises questions about the 2020 election in Arizona."
He released his April report despite pushback from his investigators who said some of its claims were refuted by their probe. Brnovich was at the time in the midst of a Republican Party primary for U.S. Senate and facing fierce criticism from Trump, who claimed he wasn't doing enough to prosecute election fraud.
Brnovich, whose primary bid was unsuccessful, also did not release a September memo that systematically refuted a bevy of election conspiracies that have taken root on the right, including allegations of dead or duplicate voters, pre-marked ballots flown in from Asia, election servers connected to the internet and even manipulation by satellites controlled by the Italian military.
“In each instance and in each matter, the aforementioned parties did not provide any evidence to support their allegations,” the September memo read. “The information that was provided was speculative in many instances and when investigated by our agents and support staff, was found to be inaccurate.”
The September memo, which was among the documents released Wednesday, describes an all-encompassing probe that became the top priority for the attorney general's investigators, who spent more than 10,000 hours looking into 638 complaints. They opened 430 investigations and referred 22 cases for prosecution. President Joe Biden won Arizona by a little over 10,000 votes.
Mayes said the fraud claims were a waste.
“The ten thousand plus hours spent diligently investigating every conspiracy theory under the sun distracted this office from its core mission of protecting the people of Arizona from real crime and fraud," Mayes said in a statement.
Brnovich's “interim report” claimed that election officials worked too quickly in verifying voter signatures and pointed to a drop in the number of ballots with rejected signatures between 2016 and 2018 and again in 2020. He also claimed that Maricopa County was slow in responding to requests for information.
He made those claims even after investigators who reviewed a draft pushed back, publishing his report largely unchanged following their feedback.
The investigative staff concluded that the county recorder's office “followed its policy/procedures as they relate to signature verification; we did not uncover any criminality or fraud having been committed in this area during the 2020 general election," investigators wrote. They also said they found the county “was cooperative and responsive to our requests.”
Arizona became the epicenter of efforts by Trump allies to cast doubt on Biden's victory. Republican leaders of the state Senate subpoenaed election records and equipment and hired a Florida firm led by a Trump supporter, Cyber Ninjas Inc., to conduct an unprecedented review of the election in Maricopa County.
The Cyber Ninjas review gave Biden more votes than the official count but claimed that their work raised serious questions about the conduct of the election in Maricopa County, home to metro Phoenix and the majority of Arizona's voters. The investigation by the attorney general's office found the allegations did not stand up to scrutiny.
“Our comprehensive review of CNI’s audit showed they did not provide any evidence to support their allegations of widespread fraud or ballot manipulation,” Brnovich's investigators wrote.
Thursday's release is the latest confirmation that there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election and that Biden won the presidency legitimately. Trump continues to repeat his lie that the election was stolen from him as he mounts his third bid for the White House, despite reviews and audits saying otherwise in the battleground states he contested and his own administration officials debunking his claims.
Officials in Maricopa County, where nearly all the officials overseeing elections are Republicans, say they endured death threats and verbal abuse due to the suggestions of malfeasance in the Cyber Ninjas review and Brnovich's “interim report."
“This was a gross misuse of his elected office and an appalling waste of taxpayer dollars, as well as a waste of the time and effort of professional investigators,” Clint Hickman, the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors said in a statement.
Brnovich's investigators did conclude that Maricopa County officials did not uniformly follow state election procedures when filling out forms to document the pickup and transport of mail ballots. But they said the errors were procedural and that “investigators did not find anything that would (have) compromised the integrity of the ballots or the final ballot count.”
Investigators interviewed two Republican state lawmakers who publicly claimed they knew of fraud in the election, but wrote that neither Rep. Mark Finchem nor Sen. Sonny Borrelli repeated their claims to investigators — when they could have been subject to criminal charges for false reporting to law enforcement. The investigators said a third lawmaker, Republican state Sen. Wendy Rogers, declined to speak with them.
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hahahahaha. Everyone wants to talk and flap their gums, but just not under oath.
Both articles say the exact same thing. NOTHING supported the stolen election claims.
Deductive reasoning obviously is not your forte.
If you want links, have at it. Take your pick. ::)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=arizona+no+fraud
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Both articles say the exact same thing. NOTHING supported the stolen election claims.
Deductive reasoning obviously is not your forte.
If you want links, have at it. Take your pick. ::)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=arizona+no+fraud
Where is the report? Maybe the Russians have it?
I've said it dozens of times since Trump whipped killary, IF there is any fraud going on, it's all digital and untraceable. No amount of investigating will find any widespread fraud for or against either side. Only way to combat this is to go back to paper ballots with mandatory ID.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/shocking-az-senate-house-elections-presenter-claims-that-sinaloa-cartel-uses-bribes-money-laundering-election-fraud-to-control-elected-officials-and-traffic-drugs-humans-ballots-in-arizona/?fbclid=PAAaZ0OKSPNLNK7mLhp0p0NL1aorXUP9lRiU3-yG-FPIzxuDdX1YpUPz0CFYU
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/shocking-az-senate-house-elections-presenter-claims-that-sinaloa-cartel-uses-bribes-money-laundering-election-fraud-to-control-elected-officials-and-traffic-drugs-humans-ballots-in-arizona/?fbclid=PAAaZ0OKSPNLNK7mLhp0p0NL1aorXUP9lRiU3-yG-FPIzxuDdX1YpUPz0CFYU
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Where is the report? Maybe the Russians have it?
I've said it dozens of times since Trump whipped killary, IF there is any fraud going on, it's all digital and untraceable. No amount of investigating will find any widespread fraud for or against either side. Only way to combat this is to go back to paper ballots with mandatory ID.
Were you held back in school a few grades as a child? Or just find Google a bit too complex and challenging to look something so simple up?
Unless of course, the Russians have control of the Arizona Attorney General website. I mean, I know you Trumpturds believe that the Chinese control our thermostats that vote and all....
https://www.azag.gov/press-release/arizona-attorney-generals-office-releases-documents-related-2020-election-0
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Were you held back in school a few grades as a child? Or just find Google a bit too complex and challenging to look something so simple up?
Unless of course, the Russians have control of the Arizona Attorney General website. I mean, I know you Trumpturds believe that the Chinese control our thermostats that vote and all....
https://www.azag.gov/press-release/arizona-attorney-generals-office-releases-documents-related-2020-election-0
You believe the government, you have no room to challenge anyones intellect.
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You believe the government, you have no room to challenge anyones intellect.
I believe results. I believe evidence.
You believe orange turd's whining and lies. Your weak ass excuses identify your own weak ass intellect.
Try again maybe? You haven't done so well on this thread.
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I believe results. I believe evidence.
You believe orange turd's whining and lies. Your weak ass excuses identify your own weak ass intellect.
Try again maybe? You haven't done so well on this thread.
You believe the government and the media. Doesn't make it fact. The government still teaches that Columbus discovered America. Evidence? I think you mean lack of evidence. It's obvious by your posts that you've spent no time whatsoever involved with any sort of legal process and are just repeating what your media tells you ad nauseum. You've been exposed in this thread and many others where this fact has been shown and yet you keep repeating what you've been programmed to repeat. You have no critical thought, no independent opinions or beliefs. You are exactly what the government wants in this country, a good, obedient sheep.
Lurkers response: Blah blah, orange man bad, blah blah Trumps ass, blah blah but Trump said.... ::)
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TL:DR
lattes
it's a tweet
you made that quote up
it's a different quote
news source
where is the report
government and media
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You just don't run out of excuses do you? Being proven wrong over and over is nothing new for you. You just move onto the next excuse like nothing ever happened. All cranium, no brainium.
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Well, well, well..... looky here. This is exactly what needs to happen. Hold people accountable for their lies when it starts wasting $$$ for no reason.
This "cowboy" and Clearly Fake need to be made an example of.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+sanctions+defeated+GOP+Arizona+candidate+over+%E2%80%98groundless%E2%80%99+election+claims
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Defeated Arizona secretary of state candidate Mark Finchem, a Republican who refused to concede in his loss to his Democratic opponent, was sanctioned by a state judge over his lawsuit that challenged his loss last year.
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Melissa Julian said the suit brought forward by Finchem and his attorney was “groundless and not brought in good faith.”
The court ordered Finchem to pay the legal fees incurred by Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes and his office, who were challenged in court by Finchem when he sought to have the election results thrown out and ballots recast. In December, Julian rejected Finchem’s suit that alleged thousands of Republican voters were disenfranchised in the November elections.
The costs of those fees have not been determined.
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Well, well, well.... you lose, you pay. And there are no bigger losers than the "stolen election" idiots.
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Arizona GOP loses bid to undo $18K in fees over 2020 lawsuit
An appeals court has rejected a bid by the Arizona Republican Party and its lawyers to undo $18,000 in attorneys’ fees that they were ordered to pay for bringing one of the party’s failed lawsuits challenging President Joe Biden’s 2020 victory in the state.
In an order Thursday, the Arizona Court of Appeals affirmed the dismissal of the party’s lawsuit, concluding that evidence supported a lower-court judge finding that the party’s legal claims were groundless and rejecting its allegation that the judge stuck them with the attorneys’ fees for primarily political motives.
The appeals court wrote, “The First Amendment does not shield attorneys or parties from a court’s obligation” under a law requiring judges to impose attorneys’ fees against those who bring claims to court without substantial justification or to delay or harass.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+GOP+loses+bid+to+undo+%2418K+in+fees+over+2020+lawsuit
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How does it feel to have someone in your head 24/7?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=678192.0;attach=1362513;image)
So now it is a little over a year later. How did this work out. Did I miss Trump being awarded the Presidency and Biden got ousted?
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How does it feel to have someone in your head 24/7?
I wouldn’t know. Why don’t you and the gimmicks tell me.
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How does it feel to have someone in your head 24/7?
Getlibs couldn't live without Trump.
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Awww... tell lies and have to pay for it. :'(
Dissent and frivolous... it pays to know the difference. :D
Good times.
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Finchem, attorney ordered to pay $48K in sanctions in ‘groundless’ election challenge
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Finchem%2C+attorney+ordered+to+pay+%2448K+in+sanctions+in+%E2%80%98groundless%E2%80%99+election+challenge
A judge has ordered Mark Finchem and his attorney to pay more than $48,000 in legal fees as sanctions for bringing what the judge had called a "groundless" challenge to the results of last fall's race for Arizona secretary of state.
The ruling, released late Friday, contrasts with a decision issued the same day by another judge who handled Kari Lake's challenge of her loss in last year's race for governor. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson declined to issue sanctions that were requested by county officials.
In the Finchem case, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Melissa Julian ordered Finchem to pay the $40,272 attorney fee bill that Adrian Fontes accrued in defending against Finchem's lawsuit, which alleged misconduct in the Nov. 8 election and sought a do-over of the race.
Fontes, a Democrat, won by more than 120,000 votes against Finchem, the Republican nominee.
The judge also ordered Finchem's attorney, Daniel McAuley III, to cover the $7,434 attorney fee bill of then-Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, whose office was named in the lawsuit.
In addition, Julian ordered Finchem to pay a combined $385 in taxable costs related to the suit: $293 to Fontes and $92 to Hobbs.
Finchem, in a text message, argued Julian has no authority to issue sanctions but stopped short of saying whether he would appeal her order, issued May 22 but released Friday.
"There is no provision in contest law for a judge to award sanctions. Hard stop," he wrote.
If the sanctions are allowed to stand, he argued, it would put a "cold, wet blanket" on dissent.
But state law allows judges to award "reasonable attorney fees" if a party files a complaint without substantial justification, which Julian argued was the case with Finchem's complaint.
Fontes declined to comment on the ruling.
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Awww... tell lies and have to pay for it. :'(
Dissent and frivolous... it pays to know the difference. :D
Good times.
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Finchem, attorney ordered to pay $48K in sanctions in ‘groundless’ election challenge
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Finchem%2C+attorney+ordered+to+pay+%2448K+in+sanctions+in+%E2%80%98groundless%E2%80%99+election+challenge
A judge has ordered Mark Finchem and his attorney to pay more than $48,000 in legal fees as sanctions for bringing what the judge had called a "groundless" challenge to the results of last fall's race for Arizona secretary of state.
The ruling, released late Friday, contrasts with a decision issued the same day by another judge who handled Kari Lake's challenge of her loss in last year's race for governor. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson declined to issue sanctions that were requested by county officials.
In the Finchem case, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Melissa Julian ordered Finchem to pay the $40,272 attorney fee bill that Adrian Fontes accrued in defending against Finchem's lawsuit, which alleged misconduct in the Nov. 8 election and sought a do-over of the race.
Fontes, a Democrat, won by more than 120,000 votes against Finchem, the Republican nominee.
The judge also ordered Finchem's attorney, Daniel McAuley III, to cover the $7,434 attorney fee bill of then-Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, whose office was named in the lawsuit.
In addition, Julian ordered Finchem to pay a combined $385 in taxable costs related to the suit: $293 to Fontes and $92 to Hobbs.
Finchem, in a text message, argued Julian has no authority to issue sanctions but stopped short of saying whether he would appeal her order, issued May 22 but released Friday.
"There is no provision in contest law for a judge to award sanctions. Hard stop," he wrote.
If the sanctions are allowed to stand, he argued, it would put a "cold, wet blanket" on dissent.
But state law allows judges to award "reasonable attorney fees" if a party files a complaint without substantial justification, which Julian argued was the case with Finchem's complaint.
Fontes declined to comment on the ruling.
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Quote from: Lartinos on May 12, 2023, 06:39:01 PM
The pedos get called out and don’t even try to defend their disgusting existence.
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Are you referring to StrawBitch / GroomingForBoys / TheOak / Pashtun Afghanistani/ WayneTracker ?
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So many idiots had such high hopes for Arizona to give the WH back to Trumpy. :'( Even to this day they still claim he won AZ.
The swamp is getting drained deeper and deeper now. :D
Judge denies Cyber Ninjas' request to limit release of public records in AZ 'audit' case
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+denies+Cyber+Ninjas%27+request+to+limit+release+of+public+records+in+AZ+%27audit%27+case
Something tells me that there is something in those records they don't want anyone to see. :D
Cue in the crickets from the peanut gallery with their excuses now.
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AND.......!!!! Not to be outdone by Wisconsin cracking heads over Trumpturd fake electors trying to sway a legit solid election, Arizona gets in line for their turn too.
So much fraud. So many fake electors. So many testimonies that they knew they were wrong yet did it anyway.... At this rate, Mr. Cheeseybro will soon have more indictments in more states than his orange hero it seems. :D
But let's keep hearing from the Trumpturds about "election fraud" and "rigged elections". Every accusation is a confession.
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Arizona prosecutors issue grand jury subpoenas as 2020 election probe intensifies
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+prosecutors+issue+grand+jury+subpoenas+as+2020+election+probe+intensifies
Prosecutors in Arizona have issued several grand jury subpoenas in recent weeks to people connected to efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election in that state, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
The subpoenas suggest the state-level probe is accelerating ahead of the 2024 presidential election, when Trump is expected to once again be on the ballot as the Republican nominee. Sources told CNN that Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes could be nearing a decision on whether to bring criminal charges.
Mayes, a Democrat, has primarily focused her investigation on the 11 fake electors from Arizona and those who helped organize them, but sources familiar with the probe say she is also looking into individuals tied to the former president’s national campaign as well. Politico first reported the grand jury subpoenas were issued.
Arizona prosecutors have asked witnesses about meetings attended by Trump where the plan to put forward slates of fake GOP electors across the country was mentioned, including one in the Oval Office on December 16, 2020, the sources said.
They have also inquired about several other boldfaced names who aided Trump’s attempt to upend Joe Biden’s 2020 election win, including conservative attorney John Eastman, the sources added.
Questions about Eastman, who was among those pushing fringe legal theories for overturning the 2020 election results and intimately involved in the fake electors scheme, primarily focused on his actions in the weeks and days leading up to January 6, 2021, according to the same sources.
Among those who have been interviewed by Arizona prosecutors in recent months is pro-Trump attorney Kenneth Chesebro.
CNN has identified Chesebro as one of Trump’s unindicted co-conspirators in special counsel Jack Smith’s federal indictment of the former president, which details how he was a driving force behind the fake electors plot.
Chesebro has also pleaded guilty in the sprawling conspiracy case in Georgia for his role in efforts to overturn the 2020 election results there and met with prosecutors from several other states who are investigating the fake electors plan.
Arizona prosecutors asked Chesebro about the December 2020 Oval Office meeting he also described during an earlier interview with investigators in Michigan, sources said.
During that Oval Office meeting, Chesebro says he told Trump he could still win – and explained how the “alternate electors” he helped assemble in Arizona and six other states gave Trump an opening to continue contesting the election until Congress certified the results on January 6, 2021, according to audio of his Michigan interview obtained by CNN.
“I ended up explaining that Arizona was still hypothetically possible — because the alternate electors had voted,” Chesebro told Michigan state investigators, later adding that this made it “clear (to Trump) in a way that maybe it hadn’t been before, that we had until January 6 to win.”
“And that, you know, created a real problem,” Chesebro added.
CNN has reached out to lawyers for Eastman and Chesebro for comment.
Eleven fake electors for Trump convened at the state Republican Party headquarters in Phoenix, on December 14, 2020. They broadcast themselves preparing to sign the documents, allegedly provided by a Trump campaign attorney, claiming that they were the legitimate representatives of the state’s electoral votes.
By that time, Trump’s loss in the state – by fewer than 11,000 votes – had already been certified by its Republican governor, affirming that Biden won Arizona in the 2020 presidential election.
But in the weeks that followed, some of the fake electors continued to push for Vice President Mike Pence to reject the legitimate Democratic slate of electors.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/03/02/trump-opens-largest-ever-lead-in-new-york-times-polling/?sh=552a0ea670f4
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Coach, I know you wouldn't know this, but anyone saluting in civilian clothing in doors is bat shit crazy.
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Coach, I know you wouldn't know this, but anyone saluting in civilian clothing in doors is bat shit crazy.
Or "larping".
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Thread not aging well:
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Or "larping".
Must suck to know that my "larping" is better training than most LE's. Agnostic can weigh in on this any time he likes
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Must suck to know that my "larping" is better training than most LE's. Agnostic can weigh in on this any time he likes
You don't "train". You just "pretend". For imaginary scenarios that only occur in your retarded little head. If shit popped off, you would be the first one to go down. You would be the first victim of even a Jr. Air Soft Tournament.
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Must suck to know that my "larping" is better training than most LE's. Agnostic can weigh in on this any time he likes
I have weighed in... you're living in a fantasy world where Trump is still President and you train cops.
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I have weighed in... you're living in a fantasy world where Trump is still President and you train cops.
It was hysterical that he thought anyone would have believed that.
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I have weighed in... you're living in a fantasy world where Trump is still President and you train cops.
I watch video every day of dumb cops in Austin, Dallas and Houston that you've supposedly "trained" and I'm surprised they're still alive by not shooting their own.
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You don't "train". You just "pretend". For imaginary scenarios that only occur in your retarded little head. If shit popped off, you would be the first one to go down. You would be the first victim of even a Jr. Air Soft Tournament.
Tell us more about shooting someone in the knee with an AR14 shotgun with a 321/2 round clip.
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I have weighed in... you're living in a fantasy world where Trump is still President and you train cops.
You claimed the same thing...I call bullshit
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Tell us more about shooting someone in the knee with an AR14 shotgun with a 321/2 round clip.
That knee wound for someone else would be a head shot on your short ass.
Tell us more about how you jump out of helicopters. That was really funny.
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I found one of Agnosics trainee's
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That knee wound for someone else would be a head shot on your short ass.
Tell us more about how you jump out of helicopters. That was really funny.
What do you want to know? You act like people don't do this or something...stick what you know which ain't much :-\
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What do you want to know? You act like people don't do this or something...stick what you know which ain't much :-\
People who are trained. But not by you. They have real training. And they usually have a reason as well. Not pretend shit only in their heads. Like you.
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People who are trained. But not by you. They have real training. And they usually have a reason as well. Not pretend shit only in their heads. Like you.
You sure about that? Lol. You’re Dumber than realized. Seriously, every time you open your mouth you make an ass of yourself. If I didn't enjoy it so much I might be embarrassed for you
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You sure about that? Lol. You’re Dumber than realized. Seriously, every time you open your mouth you make an ass of yourself. If I didn't enjoy it so much I might be embarrassed for you
Yeah. Pretty sure. Who is going to issue any kind of accreditation to a manlet with reality impairments.
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-policies-agenda-election-2024-second-term-d656d8f08629a8da14a65c4075545e0f
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I found one of Agnosics trainee's
This guy should not be a cop. He should be terminated immediately.
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Yeah. Pretty sure. Who is going to issue any kind of accreditation to a manlet with reality impairments.
Pretty sure or sure. Cmon, make an ass if yourself some more
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Pretty sure or sure. Cmon, make an ass if yourself some more
Well why don’t you post your accreditation where you are eligible to train LE. Seems simple enough.
Unless you can’t that is.
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Well why don’t you post your accreditation where you are eligible to train LE. Seems simple enough.
Unless you can’t that is.
I never said I was “accredited” shooting from a helicopter hahahahahahaha
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I never said I was “accredited” shooting from a helicopter hahahahahahaha
No LE is sending it's staff to a non accredited midget either.
Especially one that is so delusional.
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No LE is sending it's staff to a non accredited midget either.
Especially one that is so delusional.
Why do you insist on getting your ass handed to you on the daily?
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Why do you insist on getting your ass handed to you on the daily?
Since it has never happened, I couldn't say.
What I can say is that nobody would rely on you to train them to take out the trash cans at night. Or anything else.
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I watch video every day of dumb cops in Austin, Dallas and Houston that you've supposedly "trained" and I'm surprised they're still alive by not shooting their own.
We can both agree Cops screw up. What we don't agree on is that your firing range experience equals .05% of what an Austin cops is trained at. You're political views are special Olympics level. Seriously, after all this time, you STILL believe the 2020 election was stolen? It just reeks of gullible mentality.
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No LE is sending it's staff to a non accredited midget either.
Especially one that is so delusional.
Coach.. post a Letter of Appreciation from ANY Department mentioning your training them.. Any DEPARTMENT ... Any acknowledgement officially recognizing your participating in their training?
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Why do you insist on getting your ass handed to you on the daily?
I ask you the same question... You are the Bitc* of this forum.. I know it.. the Trumpsters know it.. however, for a guy who thinks Trump won, you'll never know it
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We can both agree Cops screw up. What we don't agree on is that your firing range experience equals .05% of what an Austin cops is trained at. You're political views are special Olympics level. Seriously, after all this time, you STILL believe the 2020 election was stolen? It just reeks of gullible mentality.
No, we can't agree with that unless, like Ive said before, they're full time SWAT that train all the time. You know as well as do all patrol cops have to do is qualify once a quarter, every six months or once a year, any discresionary training is on them if the department even allows it. They go through their initial firearms training when they first get in and that's about it until they have qualify again. You know this. You also know a lot of time, unless they came from a military background, most new recruits don't know their weapon, don't have a proper grip, can't do a proficient reload, can't clear a malfunction and definitely aren't aware of their surroundings, don't train force on force or train in shoot houses.
I'm not just picking on Austin but we can go there. They're one of the liberal cities that defunded their PD...that alone should tell you something.
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Coach.. post a Letter of Appreciation from ANY Department mentioning your training them.. Any DEPARTMENT ... Any acknowledgement officially recognizing your participating in their training?
We've gone over this, dippy. Search for it.
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Coach.. post a Letter of Appreciation from ANY Department mentioning your training them.. Any DEPARTMENT ... Any acknowledgement officially recognizing your participating in their training?
He can't. Just like he can't post evidence of a fake birth certificate or stolen election.
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We've gone over this, dippy. Search for it.
Why? You could post it again faster. Surely, you have been given some kind of certificate that qualifies you to teach LE anything. Or you haven't. Which is the truth.
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Why? You could post it again faster. Surely, you have been given some kind of certificate that qualifies you to teach LE anything. Or you haven't. Which is the truth.
find the conversation
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He can't. Just like he can't post evidence of a fake birth certificate or stolen election.
Oh I sure did little man, plenty of times.
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Coach.. post a Letter of Appreciation from ANY Department mentioning your training them.. Any DEPARTMENT ... Any acknowledgement officially recognizing your participating in their training?
Do you think private training facilities have “accreditations” to train members of LE if they come and train at their discretion?
One of my old instructors in the San Antonio area trains LE (as does most private training facilities) all the time and isn’t “accredited”. The training facility where I train isn’t but some members of LE are in all the time. Do you think because they’re not “accredited” means they’re not qualified or knowledgeable enough to train?
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Do you think private training facilities have “accreditations” to train members of LE if they come and train at their discretion?
One of my old instructors in the San Antonio area trains LE (as does most private training facilities) all the time and isn’t “accredited”. The training facility where I train isn’t but some members of LE are in all the time. Do you think because they’re not “accredited” means they’re not qualified or knowledgeable enough to train?
Then you are not "training" LE. You are just pretending to be something you are not.
Pretty sure there is not a police department around that would actively refer their LE to you. You are the equivalent of a receptionist running around a gun facility.
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Oh I sure did little man, plenty of times.
No you didn't. You posted bullshit and clickbait. "Plenty of times".
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Do you think private training facilities have “accreditations” to train members of LE if they come and train at their discretion?
One of my old instructors in the San Antonio area trains LE (as does most private training facilities) all the time and isn’t “accredited”. The training facility where I train isn’t but some members of LE are in all the time. Do you think because they’re not “accredited” means they’re not qualified or knowledgeable enough to train?
What level or type of LE training are you referring to? Ae they (FLETA), state or local level police academies? Are most if not all these accredited? Portland Police Officers attend a 12-week Advanced Academy after their 16-week Basic Academy. Is this the type of LE training you are involved in? Do the Huntington Beach, CA police recruits need similar police academy training?
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Then you are not "training" LE. You are just pretending to be something you are not.
Pretty sure there is not a police department around that would actively refer their LE to you. You are the equivalent of a receptionist running around a gun facility.
Pretty sure you have your head up your ass and as usual have no conception of what you’re talking about
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What level or type of LE training are you referring to? Ae they (FLETA), state or local level police academies? Are most if not all these accredited? Portland Police Officers attend a 12-week Advanced Academy after their 16-week Basic Academy. Is this the type of LE training you are involved in? Do the Huntington Beach, CA police recruits need similar police academy training?
1. You’ve been googling again. 2. My post went right over your head
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1. You’ve been googling again. 2. My post went right over your head
Your post was lacking detail which was pertinent to the conversation. Was this intentional? Sure, I googled 'again' to better understand what you meant. Rather than clarifying this, it raised questions which you prefer not to answer for reasons only you would know.
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Do you think private training facilities have “accreditations” to train members of LE if they come and train at their discretion?
One of my old instructors in the San Antonio area trains LE (as does most private training facilities) all the time and isn’t “accredited”. The training facility where I train isn’t but some members of LE are in all the time. Do you think because they’re not “accredited” means they’re not qualified or knowledgeable enough to train?
What part of this did you not understand?
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Pretty sure you have your head up your ass and as usual have no conception of what you’re talking about
You are a retard pretending as a way to cope with reality.
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What part of this did you not understand?
What part of that makes you qualified to train people? Like you have any experience jumping out of helicopters or other silly scenarios that you entertain in that head of yours.
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What part of that makes you qualified to train people? Like you have any experience jumping out of helicopters or other silly scenarios that you entertain in that head of yours.
You mean besides shooting, being around firearms since I was six, eight years of still on going training under active and retired military (Seals, Rangers, Marine Snipers, Sheriff's and former SWAT commanders) instructors plus multiple certs?
This past weekend we were training in CQB in kill houses with simunintions. We train VCQB once a month, CQB once or twice a week and live fire once a week or twice per month. I'm begging you to come out and train with us!! Anything else, dippy?
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You mean besides shooting, being around firearms since I was six, eight years of still on going training under active and retired military (Seals, Rangers, Marine Snipers, Sheriff's and former SWAT commanders) instructors plus multiple certs?
This past weekend we were training in CQB in kill houses with simunintions. We train VCQB once a month, CQB once or twice a week and live fire once a week or twice per month. I'm begging you to come out and train with us!! Anything else, dippy?
So basically a lot of pretending. Because it must be hysterical seeing a manlet in size 5 shoes run around thinking he is teaching anyone anything. Especially for LE departments.
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So basically a lot of pretending. Because it must be hysterical seeing a manlet in size 5 shoes run around thinking he is teaching anyone anything. Especially for LE departments.
Scenarios....but what your dumb ass is suggesting is that real bullets should be used. Like I said, every time you open your mouth you make an ass of yourself...to my entertainment.
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Scenarios....but what your dumb ass is suggesting is that real bullets should be used. Like I said, every time you open your mouth you make an ass of yourself...to my entertainment.
I've made no post regarding "real bullets" at all. Just something else you lied about. This is why you have no credibility on this board, and likely, in real life either.
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I've made no post regarding "real bullets" at all. Just something else you lied about. This is why you have no credibility on this board, and likely, in real life either.
Obviously you’re too fucking stupid to even realize what you said
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Obviously you’re too fucking stupid to even realize what you said
I know what I said. You quoted me and even bolded it. The pretending is referencing bullets, it is referencing YOU. Pretending like you can teach anyone anything. Well maybe how to avoid reality through retardation.
Try again manlet.
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I know what I said. You quoted me and even bolded it. The pretending is referencing bullets, it is referencing YOU. Pretending like you can teach anyone anything. Well maybe how to avoid reality through retardation.
Try again manlet.
Point is, dippy, you called it "pretend" when it's not "pretending" when you get shot with a simunition round, you bleed. What you're suggesting that since you think it's "pretend" that anyone including LE should be using real bullets when they (we train). Apparently you can't get through that empty piece of real estate between your ears that my training is no different than theirs....I just train more.
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So basically a lot of pretending. Because it must be hysterical seeing a manlet in size 5 shoes run around thinking he is teaching anyone anything. Especially for LE departments.
It's kind of sad really...
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Point is, dippy, you called it "pretend" when it's not "pretending" when you get shot with a simunition round, you bleed. What you're suggesting that since you think it's "pretend" that anyone including LE should be using real bullets when they (we train). Apparently you can't get through that empty piece of real estate between your ears that my training is no different than theirs....I just train more.
Oh my F'ng God! ::)
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Oh my F'ng God! ::)
Really? You're going to tell me that if you're not layered and you get hit you won't bleed? I'm beginning to think you're no more qualified than Lurker and personally I think you're full of shit all the way the around.
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Point is, dippy, you called it "pretend" when it's not "pretending" when you get shot with a simunition round, you bleed. What you're suggesting that since you think it's "pretend" that anyone including LE should be using real bullets when they (we train). Apparently you can't get through that empty piece of real estate between your ears that my training is no different than theirs....I just train more.
Again, no one is referring to shooting, simunitions or bullets. The pretending is YOU. Playing a game of make believe like you are capable of doing anything but childlike larping. The fact that simple English is a struggle for you and having to explain this - again - only highlights the basic fact you are not intelligent enough for any LE to be trained by. Not even Gomer Pyle.
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It's kind of sad really...
Oh my F'ng God! ::)
I know. I bet his wife ties his shoes for him before he leaves home every day. It's laughable that he is so stupid, that he can't tell he is stupid. (But everyone else can.)
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I know. I bet his wife ties his shoes for him before he leaves home every day. It's laughable that he is so stupid, that he can't tell he is stupid. (But everyone else can.)
Don’t say “I know” when you have literally no idea of what you’re talking about. Quit embarrassing yourself
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Don’t say “I know” when you have literally no idea of what you’re talking about. Quit embarrassing yourself
"I know" that "I know" what I am talking about. You obviously don't. I am talking about YOU. While you are trying to deflect with bullets and bleeding and other bullshit that falls out of that retarded head. Simple English is a struggle for you and yet you think you can "train" people. Larping ass pretender.
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Great American!
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Really? You're going to tell me that if you're not layered and you get hit you won't bleed? I'm beginning to think you're no more qualified than Lurker and personally I think you're full of shit all the way the around.
IT'S STILL PRETENDING!!!!!
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IT'S STILL PRETENDING!!!!!
Notice how he keeps trying to deflect the subject away from himself to things that were never mentioned?
Most people with fantasies like this either join the force or the military. He's can't join either yet thinks he knows more than anyone else. It's laughable.
A 4'8" geriatric who thinks he is Rambo. :D
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IT'S STILL PRETENDING!!!!!
Cool, so your training was pretending as well. You and Lurker are welcome to come train with us.
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Cool, so your training was pretending as well. You and Lurker are welcome to come train with us.
That shows exactly what I was talking about. People with real training wouldn't have gotten themselves hit multiple times. All on the arms at that. What was you doing? Holding your head in your hands? Maybe you should stick to LaserTag.
Again, you would be the first one eliminated from a Jr Air Soft tournament.
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That shows exactly what I was talking about. People with real training wouldn't have gotten themselves hit multiple times. All on the arms at that. What was you doing? Holding your head in your hands? Maybe you should stick to LaserTag.
Again, you would be the first one eliminated from a Jr Air Soft tournament.
LOLOLO…that’s the whole point of training stupid. No one comes out unscathed. That’s how you learn. Again keep out of shit you know nothing about, I mean literally know nothing about.
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LOLOLO…that’s the whole point of training stupid. No one comes out unscathed. That’s how you learn. Again keep out of shit you know nothing about, I mean literally know nothing about.
So you are "training" LE to catch bullets with their arms? That doesn't sound like any kind of training any LE department would want their staff learning.
Keep pretending. All this time you have spent on larping and you just showed us that if shit really went down, you would be the first casualty.
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So you are "training" LE to catch bullets with their arms? That doesn't sound like any kind of training any LE department would want their staff learning.
Keep pretending. All this time you have spent on larping and you just showed us that if shit really went down, you would be the first casualty.
You’re my entertainment ...Go find the bad guys
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You’re my entertainment ...Go find the bad guys
They provided you with specific instructions and you still got shot. Just as I said. You would be the first casualty.
Be honest.... did the strokes, heart attack, long covid and general granpa-ism prevent you from ducking, reaching cover, etc....
Or did gold clown shoes of 45 just make you an easier target?
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They provided you with specific instructions and you still got shot. Just as I said. You would be the first casualty.
Be honest.... did the strokes, heart attack, long covid and general granpa-ism prevent you from ducking, reaching cover, etc....
Or did gold clown shoes of 45 just make you an easier target?
Lmao…
Go get the bad guys…
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Cool, so your training was pretending as well. You and Lurker are welcome to come train with us.
Something that never happened to Fagnostic because he ran the opposite direction when he heard gunshots. Speedy recovery, Coach.
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Something that never happened to Fagnostic because he ran the opposite direction when he heard gunshots. Speedy recovery, Coach.
I’m quite sure agnostic has done it. So he knows getting shot during these things is inevitable. But again that’s how you learn we do this usually once or twice a week.
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Lmao…
Go get the bad guys…
Sure thing. Is getting shot multiple times part of the plan? Looks like it was yours.
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Well, well, well…. Looks like these fake electors were just indicted by the Arizona state grand jury.
I thought this fake electors plot was “debunked”. :D :D :D :D :D :D. Pretty sure Rudy and Meadows won’t say it is “debunked”.
Looks like someone was wrong again. As always.
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No comments? No second thoughts or retraction of the previous "debunked" comments? :D :D :D All these Trumpturds crying about election interference and election fraud sure are quiet when actual interference and fraud is posted and acted upon.
Ohhh... those darn pesky little facts. Just popping those little bubbles of delusions.
And the really funny thing? These will just be more REPUBLICANS that flip and offer evidence against El Orange-O.
Good Times!
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Arizona indicts 18 in election interference case, including Giuliani and Meadows
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+indicts+18+in+election+interference+case%2C+including+Giuliani+and+Meadows
An Arizona grand jury has indicted former President Donald Trump 's chief of staff Mark Meadows, lawyer Rudy Giuliani and 16 others for their roles in an attempt to overturn Trump’s loss to Joe Biden in the 2020 election.
The indictment released Wednesday names 11 Republicans who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring that Trump won Arizona in 2020. They include the former state party chair, a 2022 U.S. Senate candidate and two sitting state lawmakers, who are charged with nine counts each of conspiracy, fraud and forgery.
The identities of seven other defendants, including Giuliani and Meadows, were not immediately released because they had not yet been served with the documents. They were readily identifiable based on descriptions of the defendants, however.
The 11 people who had been nominated to be Arizona’s Republican electors met in Phoenix on Dec. 14, 2020, to sign a certificate saying they were “duly elected and qualified” electors and claiming that Trump carried the state. A one-minute video of the signing ceremony was posted on social media by the Arizona Republican Party at the time. The document was later sent to Congress and the National Archives, where it was ignored.
Biden won Arizona by more than 10,000 votes. Of the eight lawsuits that unsuccessfully challenged Biden’s victory in the state, one was filed by the 11 Republicans.
Their lawsuit asked a judge to de-certify the results that gave Biden his victory in Arizona and block the state from sending them to the Electoral College. In dismissing the case, U.S. District Judge Diane Humetewa said the Republicans lacked legal standing, waited too long to bring their case and “failed to provide the court with factual support for their extraordinary claims.”
Days after that lawsuit was dismissed, the 11 participated in the certificate signing.
The Arizona charges come after a string of indictments against fake electors in other states.
In December, a Nevada grand jury indicted six Republicans on felony charges of offering a false instrument for filing and uttering a forged instrument in connection with false election certificates. They have pleaded not guilty.
Michigan’s Attorney General in July filed felony charges that included forgery and conspiracy to commit election forgery against 16 Republican fake electors. One had charges dropped after reaching a cooperation deal, and the 15 remaining defendants have pleaded not guilty.
Three fake electors also have been charged in Georgia alongside Trump and others in a sweeping indictment accusing them of participating in a wide-ranging scheme to illegally overturn the results. They have pleaded not guilty.
In Wisconsin, 10 Republicans who posed as electors settled a civil lawsuit, admitting their actions were part of an effort to overturn Biden’s victory. There is no known criminal investigation in Wisconsin.
Trump was indicted in August in federal court over efforts to cling to power after his defeat, including the fake electors scheme. The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday will hear arguments on his claim in that case that he can't be prosecuted for acts he committed while serving as president.
In early January, New Mexico Attorney General Raúl Torrez said that state’s five Republican electors cannot be prosecuted under the current law. In New Mexico and Pennsylvania, fake electors added a caveat saying the election certificate was submitted in case they were later recognized as duly elected, qualified electors. No charges have been filed in Pennsylvania.
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Great American!
You are a little late to the table. The rally in Rome, Georgia where MTJ spoke was a month ago. Man, MTJ has a voice which sounds like chalk on a blackboard.
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Well, well, well…. Looks like these fake electors were just indicted by the Arizona state grand jury.
I thought this fake electors plot was “debunked”. :D :D :D :D :D :D. Pretty sure Rudy and Meadows won’t say it is “debunked”.
Looks like someone was wrong again. As always.
Funny how that happened the day after the polls showed Trump was up 7. lol
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Funny how that happened the day after the polls showed Trump was up 7. lol
Funny how it’s been a fact since last year. Unlike your “debunked” claim.
“lol”
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Hahahahahaha. You just can't make this stuff up. This comedy writes itself. Looks like that "distinction" wasn't very legal and she got some tough days ahead of her. :)
Isn't the count up to like - 9, lawyers now of Trumpy's that has lost their licenses so far. :D
But not to worry, because this was all "debunked" according to the retard here.
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GOP lawyer for 'election integrity' charged in fake electors scheme.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=GOP+lawyer+for+%27election+integrity%27+charged+in+fake+electors+scheme.
Even for Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee, the latest legal mess involving their 2020 election lies is a little too on the nose.
Christina Bobb, the RNC's new senior counsel for election integrity, is likely one of 18 Trump aides and supporters swept up in an Arizona indictment, charged with felonies like fraud, forgery and conspiracy for trying to push a fake slate of electors after Trump lost that state in the 2020 election.
For his part, the former president was named as an unindicted co-conspirator.
I had to ask: Does getting indicted on election fraud charges cause any conflicts at work for an attorney purportedly tasked with keeping elections free and fair?
The RNC predictably donned the rhetoric of victimhood, responding to my question with a statement from Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung, noting that Bobb previously served in the U.S. Marines and then served Trump "with distinction."
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Since someone here likes to "pretend" so much... let's just all "pretend" that this didn't happen either. :D
Every Republican accusation is a confession.
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Arizona 'fake elector' indictments make it tough for Turning Point USA's 'election integrity' push
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+%27fake+elector%27+indictments+make+it+tough+for+Turning+Point+USA%27s+%27election+integrity%27+push
Turning Point USA, the extremist-friendly, Donald Trump-loving organization for MAGA youth, is having one of its worst weeks yet from a public relations perspective.
And this is an organization that’s made a habit of backing losing candidates and whose leader is known to rant against Martin Luther King Jr., so this is a sign things have truly gone off the rails.
Last week, Arizona state Rep. Austin Smith, a Republican and a senior director at TPUSA’s nonprofit arm Turning Point Action, suspended his re-election campaign after accusations of election fraud. Smith is accused of forging signatures to qualify for re-election, a charge he called "silly" in the announcement ending his campaign. It's a seeming act of karmic justice, given he’s shamelessly peddled the right-wing conspiracy theory that Maricopa County officials have fraudulently altered ballot signatures to Republicans’ detriment.
But the election fraud allegations looming over TPUSA don’t end there.
Less than a week later, two men with deep ties to the organization are among the 11 "fake electors" (18 people in total) who were indicted in Arizona over their alleged role in the Trump campaign’s so-called fake elector scheme. That was the harebrained 2020 election plot that involved conservatives in states that Joe Biden won sending "alternate" slates of electors to Congress on the false premise that Trump had won them instead.
One of those accused is Tyler Bowyer, a Turning Point higher-up who has rankled conservatives online with his TPUSA chest-beating. Bowyer is chief operating officer for Turning Point Action, and he’s a committeeman for the Republican National Committee, as well. Interestingly, he tried — and failed — to pass a resolution earlier this year that would have obligated the RNC to pay fake electors’ legal bills. How prescient. And though he’s yet to address the charges on social media, his boss, TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk, is claiming the indictment is a political hit job. On X, Kirk said Bowyer and others involved in the fake elector scheme were just doing things liberals have done in past elections. (If you feel like you've heard that before, that's because it's a conservative talking point that’s been debunked many times over.)
Nonetheless, that characterization goes a little bit further than the Arizona GOP’s defense: It has said the charges "represent a blatant and unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial power" and "are clearly designed to silence dissent and weaponize the law against political opponents." The party also posted video of the fake electors signing the fake Electoral College votes in December 2020, and that video is still online.
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Of course it’s BS…
AUDIO: Attorney Harmeet Dhillon Breaks Down “Fake Charges” Brought by Arizona AG Kris Mayes Against Trump 2020 Alternative Electors with Radio Host Garret Lewis
Conservative attorney and Republican Party official Harmeet Dhillon joined Tucson radio host Garret Lewis’ Afternoon Addiction last week to discuss the latest election interference lawfare against Republicans in Arizona.
Dhillon represents GOP Arizona State Senator Jake Hoffman in fighting the bogus charges brought against 18 individuals by radical left Attorney General Kris Mayes, who stole the 2022 election by 280 votes from Trump Endorsed Abe Hamadeh.
Hamadeh also discussed the sham charges against Trump electors and his ongoing lawsuit contesting the fraudulent election in an exclusive interview with The Gateway Pundit last week.
The Gateway Pundit reported that the still questionably elected Kris Mayes announced felony charges against 18 Trump allies and alternative electors last Wednesday afternoon for the non-crime of questioning the 2020 election and casting electoral votes for Trump. She defended her witch hunt and the curious timing of the indictment – just months before the 2024 general election.
However, the alleged crime is perfectly legal and has legal precedent.
Per Politico:
By December 1960, it was clear Kennedy had won. Only Hawaii’s result remained in doubt. Nixon had prevailed by just 140 votes, according to the initial results, which were certified by the governor. A recount was underway on Dec. 19, 1960, when presidential electors across the nation were required by law to meet and cast their ballots.
Nixon’s Hawaii electors met and cast their three votes in an official ceremony. But nearby, Kennedy’s three elector nominees gathered and signed their own certificates, delivering them to Washington as though Kennedy had won the state.
As was done in Hawaii, Arizona's Trump electors met and cast their votes in case of a successful legal challenge while lawsuits challenging the stolen 2020 election were still ongoing. "That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens," said Dhillon.
Recall that the Arizona Attorney General at the time, Mark Brnovich, released a report on his investigation in April 2022, stating that “between 100,000 and 200,000 ballots were transported without a proper chain of custody,” and individuals would be prosecuted for election fraud. However, the weak, lethargic AG never followed through.
Even the election officials in Maricopa County, which accounts for roughly 60% of Arizona's voters, knew the election was rigged with dead voters, ballot harvesting, and shady machine software and admitted that the County’s in-house audit of the 2020 election was “bulsh*t.” Former Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri previously stated that his colleagues lied because they were too scared to do a real audit in conversations while the Arizona 2020 election audit was ongoing.
President Trump was also named in the indictment “Unindicted Coconspirator-1” because he made a phone call about the ballot counting to former governor Doug Ducey.
The charges include nine counts of conspiracy, fraudulent schemes and artifices, fraudulent schemes and practices, and forgery. “Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters,” the indictment falsely alleges.
Make no mistake; the charges are a warning shot to anyone who may want to challenge the 2024 election and meant to stain the reputations of Trump and Arizona Republicans running in 2024. See the full list of alternative electors and Trump associates facing felony charges in Arizona here.
It sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election," Dhillon told Garret Lewis.
She continued, "All the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years."
Mayes said the quiet part out loud before announcing the grand jury indictment in the latest election interference lawfare, declaring, “We absolutely have to get President Biden reelected.” This means shutting down the so-called election deniers when they shut down the voting centers, remove Republican observers from the counting rooms, and thousands of Joe Biden ballots magically appear.
As The Gateway Pundit reported, even the Associated Press admits, “Charges against Trump’s 2020 ‘fake electors’ are expected to deter a repeat this year.”
Trending: NEW: Judge Cannon Unseals Unredacted Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit
Full interview below:
Lewis: Joining me now because there were 11 people indicted yesterday, one of them is Senator Jake Hoffman. His attorney, Harmeet Dhillon joins me now. What's your reaction to the fact that Kris Mayes admitted on national TV that she'll do, I guess, whatever it takes to get Joe Biden reelected and look at what happened to Jake?
Dhillon: Yeah, well, my reaction is, who's doing the election rigging here? Is it President Trump, or is it President Biden? Because it sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election because, frankly, all the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years. So, the fact that they're bringing this almost four years after the fact is clearly an example of election rigging by the Democrats.
Lewis: To me, it just shows how scared they are because they know what is about to happen, and they can't stop it. Is there anything here at all? All I know is these 11 people signed a piece of paper, that's what they did. They signed a piece of paper, and I don't believe it's illegal. There have been alternate electors that have been used in the 1800s to settle an election, so is there anything here that is actually illegal?
Dhillon: There have been alternative electors used in the 1960s by the Democratic Party. It was suggested in the 2020 election by Democrat activists, including Van Jones and Larry Lessig, to do it in Pennsylvania in the very election for which these citizens got indicted for their work in Arizona. So, you know, briefly, the facts are that they signed as alternate electors to preserve the opportunity in the event that ongoing litigation in Arizona, like there was ongoing litigation in other states where people have been indicted: Nevada, Michigan, and Georgia. In the event to preserve the opportunity, in the event of a successful outcome in court. That's all. That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens, and to indict them for that is really outrageous. It will not stand, but the point of the Democrats here is simply to throw sand in the gears of this election.
Lewis: Yeah, it's just to scare people, I think, from ever, you know, wanting to actually say, ‘Hey, maybe something's not right here’ or ‘We're gonna do something about this.’ This is pure tyranny. So, where do you go from here? What is the next step? Is this going to be just challenged, do you have to go to a trial, what happens?
Dhillon: The next step typically in a criminal proceeding is, first of all, they have to serve everybody. And, you know, they just dumped these on the media yesterday, and eventually, they'll serve people. And then, there's typically a threshold process of motions to dismiss the indictment on various grounds, and boy, are there plenty of grounds in this case? So, I don't want to tip our hand, but we'll be doing motion practice like every other defense counsel, I'm sure. And then if there's still a case left after we hopefully, you know, destroy it, if there's still any case left after that, then there'll be a discovery process where the government's obligation is to turn over to the defense all the evidence they have in support of these ridiculous charges. But just to give you a couple of examples, they're being prosecuted for conspiracy, fraud, and forgery. Fraud, throughout the United States and in the western speaking world, requires that somebody had acted in reliance and detriment on the actions that are complained of. Nothing happened here. These people signed a piece of paper. Nobody acted in reliance on the actions in order to change the outcome of an election. The United States Congress did not vote differently. Nobody voted differently as a result of this alternative electors blink. Forgery requires a guilty conscience and intention to fool somebody with your forged document. Again, the Trump campaign and everybody involved here was very out in the open and transparent that these were alternate electors, a contingent plan in the event of a positive outcome in court. Period, full stop. No forgery, no fall, no fraud. And then conspiracy is simply a mush that lazy prosecutors use to try to tie things and people together. This is absolutely laughable and frankly shocked me as a lawyer that a so-called Attorney General, who, by the way, I think is not the legitimate Attorney General of Arizona, concocted. So, we feel very strongly about this. Jake is a great client, he is a public servant in your state, and we are looking forward to going to court to clear him of the fake charges.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYvvDkmtd8HNIWaG8NTcTAZN3nMnobLhnUO9t1CVQtMjUUn7suZIMtehvY_aem_ATaSnmNduZLXB68dCzZsY7-nu-D7d-g_PbGtQSrIuy4jfevdJrnNdHk5vJR5h1wr4HPx9KhGwyMDH8QKMCmqBqF1
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Gateway? :D :D :D :D "Fake charges". HAHAHAHAHAHA. For something to be fake, there sure is a documented record of it. :D :D I bet you think this is "fake" too.
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The party also posted video of the fake electors signing the fake Electoral College votes in December 2020, and that video is still online.
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The criminals :
Tyler Bowyer
Nancy Cottle
Jake Hoffman
Anthony Kern
Jim Lamon
Robert Montgomery
Samuel Moorhead
Loraine Pellegrino
Greg Safsten
Kelli Ward
Michael Ward
Rudy
Mark Meadows
John Eastman
Boris Epshteyn
Jenna Ellis
Christina Bobb
Mike Roman
Poor Jenna. That guilty plea from GA is going to come back and haunt her. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Poor Trumpturds.... always crying about election fraud but only *crickets* when actual election fraud is being discovered, talked about, and punished. Reality can just be so mean sometimes.
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The criminals :
Tyler Bowyer
Nancy Cottle
Jake Hoffman
Anthony Kern
Jim Lamon
Robert Montgomery
Samuel Moorhead
Loraine Pellegrino
Greg Safsten
Kelli Ward
Michael Ward
Rudy
Mark Meadows
John Eastman
Boris Epshteyn
Jenna Ellis
Christina Bobb
Mike Roman
Poor Jenna. That guilty plea from GA is going to come back and haunt her. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Poor Trumpturds.... always crying about election fraud but only *crickets* when actual election fraud is being discovered, talked about, and punished. Reality can just be so mean sometimes.
Didn’t read the article or listen to the audio…did you?
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Didn’t read the article or listen to the audio…did you?
Didn’t have to. Read the state records.
“Debunked”. :D :D :D :D :D
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Didn’t have to. Read the state records.
“Debunked”. :D :D :D :D :D
This is you can’t beat me lol
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This is you can’t beat me lol
Because FACTS don't matter in your world? We already knew that.
This is why no one will waste time debating your retarded ass.
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Of course it’s BS…
AUDIO: Attorney Harmeet Dhillon Breaks Down “Fake Charges” Brought by Arizona AG Kris Mayes Against Trump 2020 Alternative Electors with Radio Host Garret Lewis
Conservative attorney and Republican Party official Harmeet Dhillon joined Tucson radio host Garret Lewis’ Afternoon Addiction last week to discuss the latest election interference lawfare against Republicans in Arizona.
Dhillon represents GOP Arizona State Senator Jake Hoffman in fighting the bogus charges brought against 18 individuals by radical left Attorney General Kris Mayes, who stole the 2022 election by 280 votes from Trump Endorsed Abe Hamadeh.
Hamadeh also discussed the sham charges against Trump electors and his ongoing lawsuit contesting the fraudulent election in an exclusive interview with The Gateway Pundit last week.
The Gateway Pundit reported that the still questionably elected Kris Mayes announced felony charges against 18 Trump allies and alternative electors last Wednesday afternoon for the non-crime of questioning the 2020 election and casting electoral votes for Trump. She defended her witch hunt and the curious timing of the indictment – just months before the 2024 general election.
However, the alleged crime is perfectly legal and has legal precedent.
Per Politico:
By December 1960, it was clear Kennedy had won. Only Hawaii’s result remained in doubt. Nixon had prevailed by just 140 votes, according to the initial results, which were certified by the governor. A recount was underway on Dec. 19, 1960, when presidential electors across the nation were required by law to meet and cast their ballots.
Nixon’s Hawaii electors met and cast their three votes in an official ceremony. But nearby, Kennedy’s three elector nominees gathered and signed their own certificates, delivering them to Washington as though Kennedy had won the state.
As was done in Hawaii, Arizona's Trump electors met and cast their votes in case of a successful legal challenge while lawsuits challenging the stolen 2020 election were still ongoing. "That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens," said Dhillon.
Recall that the Arizona Attorney General at the time, Mark Brnovich, released a report on his investigation in April 2022, stating that “between 100,000 and 200,000 ballots were transported without a proper chain of custody,” and individuals would be prosecuted for election fraud. However, the weak, lethargic AG never followed through.
Even the election officials in Maricopa County, which accounts for roughly 60% of Arizona's voters, knew the election was rigged with dead voters, ballot harvesting, and shady machine software and admitted that the County’s in-house audit of the 2020 election was “bulsh*t.” Former Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri previously stated that his colleagues lied because they were too scared to do a real audit in conversations while the Arizona 2020 election audit was ongoing.
President Trump was also named in the indictment “Unindicted Coconspirator-1” because he made a phone call about the ballot counting to former governor Doug Ducey.
The charges include nine counts of conspiracy, fraudulent schemes and artifices, fraudulent schemes and practices, and forgery. “Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters,” the indictment falsely alleges.
Make no mistake; the charges are a warning shot to anyone who may want to challenge the 2024 election and meant to stain the reputations of Trump and Arizona Republicans running in 2024. See the full list of alternative electors and Trump associates facing felony charges in Arizona here.
It sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election," Dhillon told Garret Lewis.
She continued, "All the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years."
Mayes said the quiet part out loud before announcing the grand jury indictment in the latest election interference lawfare, declaring, “We absolutely have to get President Biden reelected.” This means shutting down the so-called election deniers when they shut down the voting centers, remove Republican observers from the counting rooms, and thousands of Joe Biden ballots magically appear.
As The Gateway Pundit reported, even the Associated Press admits, “Charges against Trump’s 2020 ‘fake electors’ are expected to deter a repeat this year.”
Trending: NEW: Judge Cannon Unseals Unredacted Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit
Full interview below:
Lewis: Joining me now because there were 11 people indicted yesterday, one of them is Senator Jake Hoffman. His attorney, Harmeet Dhillon joins me now. What's your reaction to the fact that Kris Mayes admitted on national TV that she'll do, I guess, whatever it takes to get Joe Biden reelected and look at what happened to Jake?
Dhillon: Yeah, well, my reaction is, who's doing the election rigging here? Is it President Trump, or is it President Biden? Because it sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election because, frankly, all the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years. So, the fact that they're bringing this almost four years after the fact is clearly an example of election rigging by the Democrats.
Lewis: To me, it just shows how scared they are because they know what is about to happen, and they can't stop it. Is there anything here at all? All I know is these 11 people signed a piece of paper, that's what they did. They signed a piece of paper, and I don't believe it's illegal. There have been alternate electors that have been used in the 1800s to settle an election, so is there anything here that is actually illegal?
Dhillon: There have been alternative electors used in the 1960s by the Democratic Party. It was suggested in the 2020 election by Democrat activists, including Van Jones and Larry Lessig, to do it in Pennsylvania in the very election for which these citizens got indicted for their work in Arizona. So, you know, briefly, the facts are that they signed as alternate electors to preserve the opportunity in the event that ongoing litigation in Arizona, like there was ongoing litigation in other states where people have been indicted: Nevada, Michigan, and Georgia. In the event to preserve the opportunity, in the event of a successful outcome in court. That's all. That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens, and to indict them for that is really outrageous. It will not stand, but the point of the Democrats here is simply to throw sand in the gears of this election.
Lewis: Yeah, it's just to scare people, I think, from ever, you know, wanting to actually say, ‘Hey, maybe something's not right here’ or ‘We're gonna do something about this.’ This is pure tyranny. So, where do you go from here? What is the next step? Is this going to be just challenged, do you have to go to a trial, what happens?
Dhillon: The next step typically in a criminal proceeding is, first of all, they have to serve everybody. And, you know, they just dumped these on the media yesterday, and eventually, they'll serve people. And then, there's typically a threshold process of motions to dismiss the indictment on various grounds, and boy, are there plenty of grounds in this case? So, I don't want to tip our hand, but we'll be doing motion practice like every other defense counsel, I'm sure. And then if there's still a case left after we hopefully, you know, destroy it, if there's still any case left after that, then there'll be a discovery process where the government's obligation is to turn over to the defense all the evidence they have in support of these ridiculous charges. But just to give you a couple of examples, they're being prosecuted for conspiracy, fraud, and forgery. Fraud, throughout the United States and in the western speaking world, requires that somebody had acted in reliance and detriment on the actions that are complained of. Nothing happened here. These people signed a piece of paper. Nobody acted in reliance on the actions in order to change the outcome of an election. The United States Congress did not vote differently. Nobody voted differently as a result of this alternative electors blink. Forgery requires a guilty conscience and intention to fool somebody with your forged document. Again, the Trump campaign and everybody involved here was very out in the open and transparent that these were alternate electors, a contingent plan in the event of a positive outcome in court. Period, full stop. No forgery, no fall, no fraud. And then conspiracy is simply a mush that lazy prosecutors use to try to tie things and people together. This is absolutely laughable and frankly shocked me as a lawyer that a so-called Attorney General, who, by the way, I think is not the legitimate Attorney General of Arizona, concocted. So, we feel very strongly about this. Jake is a great client, he is a public servant in your state, and we are looking forward to going to court to clear him of the fake charges.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYvvDkmtd8HNIWaG8NTcTAZN3nMnobLhnUO9t1CVQtMjUUn7suZIMtehvY_aem_ATaSnmNduZLXB68dCzZsY7-nu-D7d-g_PbGtQSrIuy4jfevdJrnNdHk5vJR5h1wr4HPx9KhGwyMDH8QKMCmqBqF1
Special Olympics.. incapable of learning..
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Special Olympics.. incapable of learning..
You know he didn't read all that. Let alone could understand it if anyone read it to him.
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You know he didn't read all that. Let alone could understand it if anyone read it to him.
Let find out. You three know what to do.
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Let find out. You three know what to do.
Yeah, we know what to do. Continue to live in a factual reality. Unlike you.
You can't even prove your own "debunked" claim here while having plenty of time to research it. You couldn't do it any better on the fly.
"No one is debating a 6 year old."
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Yeah, we know what to do. Continue to live in a factual reality. Unlike you.
You can't even prove your own "debunked" claim here while having plenty of time to research it. You couldn't do it any better on the fly.
"No one is debating a 6 year old."
Let’s go, coward
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Let’s go, coward
Get factual, retard.
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So will we be seeing proof of this being "debunked" today? Or not? Smart money is on the "or not" odds.
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Special Olympics.. incapable of learning..
Back for your 2am ass beating
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So will we be seeing proof of this being "debunked" today? Or not? Smart money is on the "or not" odds.
No explanation or proof I see.
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No explanation or proof I see.
You know what to do, coward
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You know what to do, coward
Continue to wait for you to provide proof of your claim?
Or just accept the fact that you are avoiding your own statement as usual because it is completely retarded? Like you.
Another example (as if we needed anymore) of why no one is going to debate an idiot. You can't even back your own posts up.
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Maybe this week? Any explanation or proof of that "debunking"?
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Maybe this week? Any explanation or proof of that "debunking"?
Maybe he does not know the definition of debunking. ;)
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Maybe he does not know the definition of debunking. ;)
Or the definition of "facts".
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Or the definition of "facts".
And Coach is unable to back up his claims with proof. But then, his definition of proof is off kilter.
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And Coach is unable to back up his claims with proof. But then, his definition of proof is off kilter.
It's funny actually. I posted links to the State AG site where the charges were actually listed. The names of the people being charged. The felonies they were being charged with. And also audio/video/print of the AG herself specifically stating these people were being charged in this investigation.
Qoach runs on and says there are no charges and there is no investigation. That it has all been "debunked" previously. :D :D :D :D
Now he is avoiding this subject completely. :D :D :D :D
Just like the rest of the Trumpturds are avoiding any and all mentions/postings of the REAL election fraud and interference. The lawsuits, the lies, the "find me some votes" begging, the fake electors in 4 states, etc... By pretending it doesn't exist, they think no one else notices it either.
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It's funny actually. I posted links to the State AG site where the charges were actually listed. The names of the people being charged. The felonies they were being charged with. And also audio/video/print of the AG herself specifically stating these people were being charged in this investigation.
Qoach runs on and says there are no charges and there is no investigation. That it has all been "debunked" previously. :D :D :D :D
Now he is avoiding this subject completely. :D :D :D :D
Just like the rest of the Trumpturds are avoiding any and all mentions/postings of the REAL election fraud and interference. The lawsuits, the lies, the "find me some votes" begging, the fake electors in 4 states, etc... By pretending it doesn't exist, they think no one else notices it either.
On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.
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On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.
Yeah it's very entertaining
Vote for Trump or
Vote for the Pedocrat party anything Queer / Faggotry/ Men in women's
sports & spaces men dressed as women in government & of course Kiddy
sniffing & fiddling. Go for It.
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Yeah it's very entertaining
Vote for Trump or
Vote for the Pedocrat party anything Queer / Faggotry/ Men in women's
sports & spaces men dressed as women in government & of course Kiddy
sniffing & fiddling. Go for It.
Or laugh at habitual lying eurotrash like yourself who won't be voting for anything in the US.
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The subject of fake electors must be like sunlight on vampires to the Trumpturds. No one wants to talk about REAL election fraud. :-*
Rudy sure is scared of proving his "innocence" with that "evidence" he claims he has isn't he? Why, it's almost like it doesn't even exist. :D
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Arizona fake electors: Rudy Giuliani taunts prosecutors, Boris Epshteyn asks for delay
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+fake+electors%3A+Rudy+Giuliani+taunts+prosecutors%2C+Boris+Epshteyn+asks+for+delay
The earliest court hearings in Attorney General Kris Mayes' criminal case alleging a plot to subvert the result of the 2020 presidential election may be missing two high-profile allies of former President Donald Trump.
Three weeks after the indictment was issued by a grand jury, the Arizona Attorney General's Office has been unable to serve former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani notice that he must appear in court May 21.
The former mayor of New York City is one of 18 people charged with nine felony counts in Arizona, and to date, his name has not been formally released by prosecutors.
Meanwhile, Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn's lawyer asked to delay his client's first court appearance until June, because Epshteyn is "advising in a court proceeding ongoing in another state" through May, court documents say.
Epshteyn has been repeatedly spotted in the New York City courtroom where Trump is on trial over charges he falsified business records. The first criminal trial of a former president alleges Trump sought to hide payments and other efforts to prevent stories of sexual encounters with women from becoming public during his 2016 campaign.
Epshteyn's lawyer did not respond to a call or email seeking comment Tuesday.
Agents from Mayes' office spent two days in New York City trying to serve Giuliani notice of the charges against him, according to Mayes spokesperson Richie Taylor. The doorman at the building confirmed he lived there, but would not contact him on the agents' behalf, Taylor said. The office called multiple phone numbers for Giuliani, and sent the summons via certified mail, with no luck.
Taylor said what comes next is to be determined.
"It will be up to the court to decide whether this merits a continuation for the defendant or if other methods need to be taken," Taylor said.
Typically defendants in white-collar cases are cooperative and accept the summons, said Mark Kokanovich, a former federal prosecutor who now practices law at the firm Ballard Spahr. The alternatives are a public notification, or potentially, an arrest warrant, he said.
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On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.
Trump idolatry.
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The subject of fake electors must be like sunlight on vampires to the Trumpturds. No one wants to talk about REAL election fraud. :-*
Rudy sure is scared of proving his "innocence" with that "evidence" he claims he has isn't he? Why, it's almost like it doesn't even exist. :D
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Arizona fake electors: Rudy Giuliani taunts prosecutors, Boris Epshteyn asks for delay
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+fake+electors%3A+Rudy+Giuliani+taunts+prosecutors%2C+Boris+Epshteyn+asks+for+delay
The earliest court hearings in Attorney General Kris Mayes' criminal case alleging a plot to subvert the result of the 2020 presidential election may be missing two high-profile allies of former President Donald Trump.
Three weeks after the indictment was issued by a grand jury, the Arizona Attorney General's Office has been unable to serve former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani notice that he must appear in court May 21.
The former mayor of New York City is one of 18 people charged with nine felony counts in Arizona, and to date, his name has not been formally released by prosecutors.
Meanwhile, Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn's lawyer asked to delay his client's first court appearance until June, because Epshteyn is "advising in a court proceeding ongoing in another state" through May, court documents say.
Epshteyn has been repeatedly spotted in the New York City courtroom where Trump is on trial over charges he falsified business records. The first criminal trial of a former president alleges Trump sought to hide payments and other efforts to prevent stories of sexual encounters with women from becoming public during his 2016 campaign.
Epshteyn's lawyer did not respond to a call or email seeking comment Tuesday.
Agents from Mayes' office spent two days in New York City trying to serve Giuliani notice of the charges against him, according to Mayes spokesperson Richie Taylor. The doorman at the building confirmed he lived there, but would not contact him on the agents' behalf, Taylor said. The office called multiple phone numbers for Giuliani, and sent the summons via certified mail, with no luck.
Taylor said what comes next is to be determined.
"It will be up to the court to decide whether this merits a continuation for the defendant or if other methods need to be taken," Taylor said.
Typically defendants in white-collar cases are cooperative and accept the summons, said Mark Kokanovich, a former federal prosecutor who now practices law at the firm Ballard Spahr. The alternatives are a public notification, or potentially, an arrest warrant, he said.
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^^^. Still unable to support or prove his “debunked” claims.
To the surprise of no one.
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^^^. Still unable to support or prove his “debunked” claims.
To the surprise of no one.
When I was ten years old, I went to YMCA camp in Big Bear, CA. Not having ever slept in a bunk bed, I chose one of the upper bunks. Sometime during the night, I rolled over and off the bunk falling on to the concrete floor. The term 'debunked' reminded me of this experience. Fortunately, I was not hurt in the fall... just a little embarrassed. :-[